Ambulances blocked and blood samples delayed: Royal Bournemouth Hospital chief calls for action over jams

GRIDLOCK: Traffic queues

DISRUPTION: Tony Spotswood

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ACTION is being demanded after a major traffic jam which blocked the road for ambulances and left hundreds of drivers sitting stationary for hours.

The boss of Royal Bournemouth Hospital is calling for talks with council chiefs and police over Tuesday night’s “unacceptable” delays.

He revealed ambulances were held up and blood samples were delayed while staff and patients fumed in queues.

The jams – which began mid-afternoon – were blamed on temporary traffic lights at Christchurch’s Barrack Road, combined with other troubles including the closure of the Avon Causeway because of flooding.

The temporary lights were later removed but the backlog of traffic meant the delays continued.

There were more hold-ups last night, with drivers who had parked towards the back of the hospital reporting delays of up to two hours.

Tony Spotswood, chief exec-utive of Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust, told the Daily Echo there had been “significant disruption” for patients.

“There were also unacceptable delays in ambulances accessing the site because of the density of congestion,” he said.

“There were delays in samples, such as blood, leaving the site and being sent to other hospitals for urgent investigation, so the delays all around were completely unacceptable.

“We think it’s unreasonable the degree of disruption for staff in the hospital. For some, it has serious implications for their family life including childcare arrangements.

“I will be contacting the chief executive and leader of the council to discuss with them the urgent need for a long-term solution, which is alternative access to the Wessex Way.”

The hospital would be organising “internal traffic support” to equalise the traffic flows out of its several car parks.

Chloe Boyce, spokeswoman for Southern Gas Networks, apol-ogised for the delay.

“We are currently carrying out a new gas connection job for a nursing home in Barrack Road, Christchurch. Temporary traffic lights have been necessary at certain times to ensure the safety of the public and our engineers,” she said.

A statement from Dorset County Council said SGN should have been controlling the temporary lights manually “but for some reason this did not happen”.

It added: “As soon as DCC were aware that this was the case, SGN were contacted and they sent an operative to manually control the lights sometime after 5.30pm.

“The build-up of traffic was unfortunately made worse by flooding on Avon Causeway and Stony Lane.”

Jams In Town

Christchurch continued to endure heavy traffic yesterday because of roadworks and road closures.

As well as the Barrack Road lights, there was more gas company work in the High Street, while the Avon Causeway and Stony Lane were closed following floods.

Geoff Morris, of Mr Simms Sweet Shop in the high street, said traders were keen to let people know that the street was open for business, even though access from the Fountain roundabout was blocked.

“The gas pipe works are committed to allowing all trade to continue, even the Monday market,” he said.

Stuck in car for more than three hours

Vicky Hayward had taken her four-year-old son Logan to an appointment on Tuesday.

They were stuck in the car from 3.20pm until 6.50pm, when she gave up and took a lift with a friend from Castle Lane West.

“There were people on drips that had just had operations and were having to sit and wait,” she said.

“What was really frustrating was that the traffic on the Wessex Way was moving. I went to Burger King to get my son dinner and you could see that the traffic was moving.”

Mike Durham, a volunteer driver from West Moors, was stationery in a car with an elderly patient from 3.45pm until 7.15pm.

“People were just dumping their cars and going off. I saw one couple go off to the Toby Carvery to get a meal and come back again,” he said.

“Nobody came to explain the situation and make sure people were okay.

“There needs to be a more coherent strategy for when it happens again.”

Malcolm Newton, who had been taking his mother-in-law to an appointment, moved 50 yards in two-and-a-half hours.

“It’s been incredibly poorly managed,” he said.

“It’s the sort of thing where police should intervene to override the traffic lights so the traffic can be kept moving.”

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7:53am Thu 9 Jan 14

High Treason says...

WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.
WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked. High Treason
  • Score: 48

7:58am Thu 9 Jan 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

Christchurch traffic is hell most of the time.
Castle Lane East is not fit for purpose. The traffic light timings on it are all wrong. You can sit at lights at 6 in the morning for several minutes and no cars will come out of the hospital or Chaseside. Then 100 yards down the road the same will happen at the entrance to Tesco. Traffic lights are just a job creation scheme for Council highway departments.
Christchurch traffic is hell most of the time. Castle Lane East is not fit for purpose. The traffic light timings on it are all wrong. You can sit at lights at 6 in the morning for several minutes and no cars will come out of the hospital or Chaseside. Then 100 yards down the road the same will happen at the entrance to Tesco. Traffic lights are just a job creation scheme for Council highway departments. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 37

8:02am Thu 9 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

High Treason wrote:
WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.
Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.[/p][/quote]Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home. Hessenford
  • Score: 45

8:11am Thu 9 Jan 14

twynham says...

So a private nursing home has priority over a NHS hospital.
Welcome to the coalition health care service!
So a private nursing home has priority over a NHS hospital. Welcome to the coalition health care service! twynham
  • Score: 28

8:17am Thu 9 Jan 14

Mudefordresident says...

Have the lights now been removed from Barrack Road?
Have the lights now been removed from Barrack Road? Mudefordresident
  • Score: 11

8:26am Thu 9 Jan 14

Lesleycherry says...

“It’s the sort of thing where police should intervene to override the traffic lights so the traffic can be kept moving.” - But are there enough police available now to enable manpower to be drafted in at very short notice in these kinds of situations?
“It’s the sort of thing where police should intervene to override the traffic lights so the traffic can be kept moving.” - But are there enough police available now to enable manpower to be drafted in at very short notice in these kinds of situations? Lesleycherry
  • Score: 26

8:34am Thu 9 Jan 14

djd says...

The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads.
Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse.
If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again.
If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again.
And it's all going to get worse.
The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads. Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse. If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again. If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again. And it's all going to get worse. djd
  • Score: 37

8:40am Thu 9 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

A bypass from Wessex way to the Christchurch By pass should have been built years ago when it was first suggested but as usual the do gooding tree huggers put a stop to it, if it had gone ahead before all the new buildings along Castle lane were built we wouldn't be sitting in traffic for 3 hours today.
A bypass from Wessex way to the Christchurch By pass should have been built years ago when it was first suggested but as usual the do gooding tree huggers put a stop to it, if it had gone ahead before all the new buildings along Castle lane were built we wouldn't be sitting in traffic for 3 hours today. Hessenford
  • Score: 23

8:49am Thu 9 Jan 14

frarog says...

As I keep on saying, we need a new bypass which takes traffic from the New Forest, Lymington, etc to the A338 spur road. This will remove a good percentage of traffic from Barrack Road, Fairmile and, maybe, Tuckton bridge. It should go behind St Catherine's hill!!!
As I keep on saying, we need a new bypass which takes traffic from the New Forest, Lymington, etc to the A338 spur road. This will remove a good percentage of traffic from Barrack Road, Fairmile and, maybe, Tuckton bridge. It should go behind St Catherine's hill!!! frarog
  • Score: 24

8:52am Thu 9 Jan 14

smhinto says...

This is the usual turn of events if the Bournemouth Council is involved in anything.
This is the usual turn of events if the Bournemouth Council is involved in anything. smhinto
  • Score: 18

9:12am Thu 9 Jan 14

sar72 says...

Spotswood need's to be sacked! The CQC's damning report has been swept under the carpet and Spotswood is still there with his big fat 14% wage rise he gave himself last year! Disgusting.
Spotswood need's to be sacked! The CQC's damning report has been swept under the carpet and Spotswood is still there with his big fat 14% wage rise he gave himself last year! Disgusting. sar72
  • Score: 43

9:13am Thu 9 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

It's the classic multi agency response....."Ahhhhh
h it will be OK. It will sort itself out"
It's the classic multi agency response....."Ahhhhh h it will be OK. It will sort itself out" BIGTONE
  • Score: 11

9:32am Thu 9 Jan 14

Ivy says...

We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike!
We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike! Ivy
  • Score: -20

9:42am Thu 9 Jan 14

pedantica says...

I suppose all those who were stationery, according to the report in the paper this morning, were simply enveloped in traffic!
I suppose all those who were stationery, according to the report in the paper this morning, were simply enveloped in traffic! pedantica
  • Score: 10

9:56am Thu 9 Jan 14

TheDistrict says...

I have often wondered why the lights from the Hospital Road and the Chaseside Road are not triggered by traffic, ie, Castle Lane East remains flowing until 1, 2 or 3 cars have triggered the lights from those accesses. Ambulances should have the ability to control the lights as they depart from the hospital, or into the hospital. Similar to that at Redhill Fire Station.
I have often wondered why the lights from the Hospital Road and the Chaseside Road are not triggered by traffic, ie, Castle Lane East remains flowing until 1, 2 or 3 cars have triggered the lights from those accesses. Ambulances should have the ability to control the lights as they depart from the hospital, or into the hospital. Similar to that at Redhill Fire Station. TheDistrict
  • Score: 25

10:03am Thu 9 Jan 14

PQBT01 says...

I just clicked on one of the "You may like" links above by accident and now have a virus warning popping up on my machine... WTF Bournemouth Echo!!!
I just clicked on one of the "You may like" links above by accident and now have a virus warning popping up on my machine... WTF Bournemouth Echo!!! PQBT01
  • Score: 9

10:05am Thu 9 Jan 14

PQBT01 says...

BUY A MOTORBIKE :)
BUY A MOTORBIKE :) PQBT01
  • Score: -17

10:24am Thu 9 Jan 14

skydriver says...

It's really quite simple, of course the work needs to be done So therefore why not do as other countries do, work through the night and other off peak times job done and without traffic holdups.
I'm sure Spotswood could come up with that idea without having to hold another meeting with the relivent departments this could be done by phone ASAP.
It's really quite simple, of course the work needs to be done So therefore why not do as other countries do, work through the night and other off peak times job done and without traffic holdups. I'm sure Spotswood could come up with that idea without having to hold another meeting with the relivent departments this could be done by phone ASAP. skydriver
  • Score: 27

10:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

bobthedestroyer says...

He's been their 14 years and now he says something needs to be done....this situation has happened before and he's never said a word......is someone worried about their position? Mr Ineffective trying to grow some balls and do something.
He's been their 14 years and now he says something needs to be done....this situation has happened before and he's never said a word......is someone worried about their position? Mr Ineffective trying to grow some balls and do something. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 19

10:42am Thu 9 Jan 14

a.g.o.g. says...

He should have called the police then and there!
He should have called the police then and there! a.g.o.g.
  • Score: 11

10:49am Thu 9 Jan 14

60plus says...

All roadworks need to stop in this current weather .
All roadworks need to stop in this current weather . 60plus
  • Score: 7

10:56am Thu 9 Jan 14

Wackerone says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I have often wondered why the lights from the Hospital Road and the Chaseside Road are not triggered by traffic, ie, Castle Lane East remains flowing until 1, 2 or 3 cars have triggered the lights from those accesses. Ambulances should have the ability to control the lights as they depart from the hospital, or into the hospital. Similar to that at Redhill Fire Station.
If they can't get as far as the lights in the first place...............
........
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I have often wondered why the lights from the Hospital Road and the Chaseside Road are not triggered by traffic, ie, Castle Lane East remains flowing until 1, 2 or 3 cars have triggered the lights from those accesses. Ambulances should have the ability to control the lights as they depart from the hospital, or into the hospital. Similar to that at Redhill Fire Station.[/p][/quote]If they can't get as far as the lights in the first place............... ........ Wackerone
  • Score: 4

12:04pm Thu 9 Jan 14

snugglebug says...

This is not a one off event. I work at RBH and it's happening at least once a month now. In turn this effects the courts and other staff leaving onto castle lane east.
The major concern is of course emergency access to and from the hospital site. But those staff who pay to park each month should also not have to extend their stay at work for 2 or more hours due to such delays.
And yes yes yes, we have legs, we can cycle, we've heard this a thousand times. But we also have children that need collecting from nursery and other commitments. We actually have social lives outside of the hospital too and its nice to be able to get to evenings out!
And although many staff finish their day shift at 5pm, some such as myself and then on call over night for emergencies. Before you criticise moaning staff, if you or a member of you family were having a heart attack would like them and the team to help them get through the traffic quickly or for them to be stuck and the team to arrive after the golden hour on their bikes????!!!
This is not a one off event. I work at RBH and it's happening at least once a month now. In turn this effects the courts and other staff leaving onto castle lane east. The major concern is of course emergency access to and from the hospital site. But those staff who pay to park each month should also not have to extend their stay at work for 2 or more hours due to such delays. And yes yes yes, we have legs, we can cycle, we've heard this a thousand times. But we also have children that need collecting from nursery and other commitments. We actually have social lives outside of the hospital too and its nice to be able to get to evenings out! And although many staff finish their day shift at 5pm, some such as myself and then on call over night for emergencies. Before you criticise moaning staff, if you or a member of you family were having a heart attack would like them and the team to help them get through the traffic quickly or for them to be stuck and the team to arrive after the golden hour on their bikes????!!! snugglebug
  • Score: 45

12:17pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Catcrazy says...

Castle Lane traffic is a nightmare every day! What with people swapping lanes so that they cut in ahead of queues and traffic lights that let about 5 cars through at a time it's no wonder we get problems like this. The traffic to Iford roundabout and along Barrack Road is always terrible. There must be a better way to regulate the flow into Christchurch, especially when the traffic can impact such an important service as the hospital.
Castle Lane traffic is a nightmare every day! What with people swapping lanes so that they cut in ahead of queues and traffic lights that let about 5 cars through at a time it's no wonder we get problems like this. The traffic to Iford roundabout and along Barrack Road is always terrible. There must be a better way to regulate the flow into Christchurch, especially when the traffic can impact such an important service as the hospital. Catcrazy
  • Score: 10

12:25pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

snugglebug wrote:
This is not a one off event. I work at RBH and it's happening at least once a month now. In turn this effects the courts and other staff leaving onto castle lane east.
The major concern is of course emergency access to and from the hospital site. But those staff who pay to park each month should also not have to extend their stay at work for 2 or more hours due to such delays.
And yes yes yes, we have legs, we can cycle, we've heard this a thousand times. But we also have children that need collecting from nursery and other commitments. We actually have social lives outside of the hospital too and its nice to be able to get to evenings out!
And although many staff finish their day shift at 5pm, some such as myself and then on call over night for emergencies. Before you criticise moaning staff, if you or a member of you family were having a heart attack would like them and the team to help them get through the traffic quickly or for them to be stuck and the team to arrive after the golden hour on their bikes????!!!
You have just highlighted one mail problem, Rias, the courts and over 1000 staff from the hospital all leave between 4 and 5 pm, its obvious this road is not designed to take that volume of traffic in one go.
The whole place has been built up without any thought given to the road layout, one accident on the Wessex way brings castle lane to a stand still, add to that the Barrack road works and the flooding and this is what happens, only three answers to this problem, organise everybody into different start and finish times, build another another exit onto the spur road or build a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack road, or perhaps all three, then the traffic jams would be a thing of the past.
As far as such stupid comments like use a bike, I know staff at the hospital who come from as far away as Wareham and Southampton to work so that's a ridiculous argument.
[quote][p][bold]snugglebug[/bold] wrote: This is not a one off event. I work at RBH and it's happening at least once a month now. In turn this effects the courts and other staff leaving onto castle lane east. The major concern is of course emergency access to and from the hospital site. But those staff who pay to park each month should also not have to extend their stay at work for 2 or more hours due to such delays. And yes yes yes, we have legs, we can cycle, we've heard this a thousand times. But we also have children that need collecting from nursery and other commitments. We actually have social lives outside of the hospital too and its nice to be able to get to evenings out! And although many staff finish their day shift at 5pm, some such as myself and then on call over night for emergencies. Before you criticise moaning staff, if you or a member of you family were having a heart attack would like them and the team to help them get through the traffic quickly or for them to be stuck and the team to arrive after the golden hour on their bikes????!!![/p][/quote]You have just highlighted one mail problem, Rias, the courts and over 1000 staff from the hospital all leave between 4 and 5 pm, its obvious this road is not designed to take that volume of traffic in one go. The whole place has been built up without any thought given to the road layout, one accident on the Wessex way brings castle lane to a stand still, add to that the Barrack road works and the flooding and this is what happens, only three answers to this problem, organise everybody into different start and finish times, build another another exit onto the spur road or build a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack road, or perhaps all three, then the traffic jams would be a thing of the past. As far as such stupid comments like use a bike, I know staff at the hospital who come from as far away as Wareham and Southampton to work so that's a ridiculous argument. Hessenford
  • Score: 21

12:40pm Thu 9 Jan 14

bobthedestroyer says...

djd wrote:
The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads.
Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse.
If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again.
If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again.
And it's all going to get worse.
I think there are more people employed on the hospital side than the JPMorgan side. No one has complained about leaving Chaseside the major impact was getting off the hospital site.

As for telling people to get out and walk as another commentator mentioned on here, there are commitments outside of work that can only be covered by having a car.

I was looking at getting the bus from the bottom of Pokesdown Hill to Poole Hill, it would cost £6.40 return and I would have to change bus.....or I take my car go directly where I need to go without having to wait or change buses. It is only marginally more expensive to run a car than get a bus. If it was considerably cheaper to use public transport then I would, but it isn't always feasible to use the bus, walk or cycle.

Why do people expect anything to change when the same Transport officers at the council were recently criticised for their proposed change to the Crescent. Basically there is little room for doing anything to the roads in the town so save money and sack some of the team and save the taxpayer money.

OK rant over, bring on the abuse
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads. Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse. If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again. If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again. And it's all going to get worse.[/p][/quote]I think there are more people employed on the hospital side than the JPMorgan side. No one has complained about leaving Chaseside the major impact was getting off the hospital site. As for telling people to get out and walk as another commentator mentioned on here, there are commitments outside of work that can only be covered by having a car. I was looking at getting the bus from the bottom of Pokesdown Hill to Poole Hill, it would cost £6.40 return and I would have to change bus.....or I take my car go directly where I need to go without having to wait or change buses. It is only marginally more expensive to run a car than get a bus. If it was considerably cheaper to use public transport then I would, but it isn't always feasible to use the bus, walk or cycle. Why do people expect anything to change when the same Transport officers at the council were recently criticised for their proposed change to the Crescent. Basically there is little room for doing anything to the roads in the town so save money and sack some of the team and save the taxpayer money. OK rant over, bring on the abuse bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 7

12:42pm Thu 9 Jan 14

bobthedestroyer says...

skydriver wrote:
It's really quite simple, of course the work needs to be done So therefore why not do as other countries do, work through the night and other off peak times job done and without traffic holdups.
I'm sure Spotswood could come up with that idea without having to hold another meeting with the relivent departments this could be done by phone ASAP.
COuldn't possibly do it at night.....overtime costs.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: It's really quite simple, of course the work needs to be done So therefore why not do as other countries do, work through the night and other off peak times job done and without traffic holdups. I'm sure Spotswood could come up with that idea without having to hold another meeting with the relivent departments this could be done by phone ASAP.[/p][/quote]COuldn't possibly do it at night.....overtime costs. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 5

1:45pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Poole Pirate says...

Ivy wrote:
We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike!
I couldn't agree more Ivy - well said indeed !. Seems that we may be in the minority here but it's only a matter of time before those that can cycle, will cycle. Keep cycling, keep fit, keep saving money (I saved £600 last year on fuel alone !) and keep smiling as you cycle past the jams ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Ivy[/bold] wrote: We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more Ivy - well said indeed !. Seems that we may be in the minority here but it's only a matter of time before those that can cycle, will cycle. Keep cycling, keep fit, keep saving money (I saved £600 last year on fuel alone !) and keep smiling as you cycle past the jams ;-) Poole Pirate
  • Score: -13

1:46pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Ebb Tide says...

Hessenford wrote:
High Treason wrote:
WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.
Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home.
Who is wanting to divert public attention away from a very critical report about hospital services, whilst we wait for the overdue and expected comment from the Council of Governors that was elected / appointed to ensure good governance ? ?
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.[/p][/quote]Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home.[/p][/quote]Who is wanting to divert public attention away from a very critical report about hospital services, whilst we wait for the overdue and expected comment from the Council of Governors that was elected / appointed to ensure good governance ? ? Ebb Tide
  • Score: 4

2:15pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Jimmyjams says...

Please don't be the CP Plus staff. on RBH site, they are brilliant during these trying times. Grateful patient.
Please don't be the CP Plus staff. on RBH site, they are brilliant during these trying times. Grateful patient. Jimmyjams
  • Score: 3

2:56pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

The weather is bad, roads are closed, everyone wants to drive and the roads cant cope. All of this put together leads to traffic delays, its not just at the hospital either, its all over the area. Fixing castle lane would never prevent this as there are so many factors, freak weather cannot be predicted for when designing road junctions. Some people have lost their homes, i think they would rather spend 2 hours in a car park every day for a week. The best solution to all congestion is to reduce the number of cars on the road, not to put more/less lights in or to install/remove roundabouts. The hospital needs a small service/emergency road with a barrier to allow emergency vehicles to bypass the traffic, maybe from blackwater side of the stour.
The weather is bad, roads are closed, everyone wants to drive and the roads cant cope. All of this put together leads to traffic delays, its not just at the hospital either, its all over the area. Fixing castle lane would never prevent this as there are so many factors, freak weather cannot be predicted for when designing road junctions. Some people have lost their homes, i think they would rather spend 2 hours in a car park every day for a week. The best solution to all congestion is to reduce the number of cars on the road, not to put more/less lights in or to install/remove roundabouts. The hospital needs a small service/emergency road with a barrier to allow emergency vehicles to bypass the traffic, maybe from blackwater side of the stour. Dorset Outsider
  • Score: 0

3:05pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
djd wrote:
The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads.
Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse.
If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again.
If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again.
And it's all going to get worse.
I think there are more people employed on the hospital side than the JPMorgan side. No one has complained about leaving Chaseside the major impact was getting off the hospital site.

As for telling people to get out and walk as another commentator mentioned on here, there are commitments outside of work that can only be covered by having a car.

I was looking at getting the bus from the bottom of Pokesdown Hill to Poole Hill, it would cost £6.40 return and I would have to change bus.....or I take my car go directly where I need to go without having to wait or change buses. It is only marginally more expensive to run a car than get a bus. If it was considerably cheaper to use public transport then I would, but it isn't always feasible to use the bus, walk or cycle.

Why do people expect anything to change when the same Transport officers at the council were recently criticised for their proposed change to the Crescent. Basically there is little room for doing anything to the roads in the town so save money and sack some of the team and save the taxpayer money.

OK rant over, bring on the abuse
No abuse, im just saying we get all the excuses about not cycling or walking etc, but its a great alternative to sitting in a car park. At a reasonable average speed, most people could cover 25-40 miles in 2 hours. Now it makes sense to use the bike, get home and have a shower, then drive to wherever in that time than it does to sit in a car park, be late and moan about the fact that you have to have a car because you have to go out after work.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: The traffic lights need re phasing to account for traffic movement or lack of traffic. How annoying it is waiting at the hospital lights as the lights go through their phasing and no traffic is waiting at one of the side roads. Castle Lane has always been a nightmare and it will get worse. If it's not the traffic from Castlepoint, then you have to contend with the traffic leaving or entering JP Morgan's site. The hospital is a continuous 24 hours a day traffic nightmare and I feel really sorry for anyone who happens to get into the hospital site, find somewhere to park and then try to get out again. If you are fortunate enough to reach Castel Lane you are confronted with yet another set of traffic lights at Riverside Avenue that seem to work to their own phasing and then it's the stop/go ride to the Iford roundabout and into Barrack Road where it all starts again. And it's all going to get worse.[/p][/quote]I think there are more people employed on the hospital side than the JPMorgan side. No one has complained about leaving Chaseside the major impact was getting off the hospital site. As for telling people to get out and walk as another commentator mentioned on here, there are commitments outside of work that can only be covered by having a car. I was looking at getting the bus from the bottom of Pokesdown Hill to Poole Hill, it would cost £6.40 return and I would have to change bus.....or I take my car go directly where I need to go without having to wait or change buses. It is only marginally more expensive to run a car than get a bus. If it was considerably cheaper to use public transport then I would, but it isn't always feasible to use the bus, walk or cycle. Why do people expect anything to change when the same Transport officers at the council were recently criticised for their proposed change to the Crescent. Basically there is little room for doing anything to the roads in the town so save money and sack some of the team and save the taxpayer money. OK rant over, bring on the abuse[/p][/quote]No abuse, im just saying we get all the excuses about not cycling or walking etc, but its a great alternative to sitting in a car park. At a reasonable average speed, most people could cover 25-40 miles in 2 hours. Now it makes sense to use the bike, get home and have a shower, then drive to wherever in that time than it does to sit in a car park, be late and moan about the fact that you have to have a car because you have to go out after work. Dorset Outsider
  • Score: -8

3:09pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
Ivy wrote:
We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike!
I couldn't agree more Ivy - well said indeed !. Seems that we may be in the minority here but it's only a matter of time before those that can cycle, will cycle. Keep cycling, keep fit, keep saving money (I saved £600 last year on fuel alone !) and keep smiling as you cycle past the jams ;-)
I think if the truth was known those criticising cycling on here and other threads are usually those who are either too lazy or not physically capable of getting on a bike (I include myself) and you will and do certainly have the last laugh,keep smiling.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ivy[/bold] wrote: We all need to use our cars less! Didn't have any problems on my bike![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more Ivy - well said indeed !. Seems that we may be in the minority here but it's only a matter of time before those that can cycle, will cycle. Keep cycling, keep fit, keep saving money (I saved £600 last year on fuel alone !) and keep smiling as you cycle past the jams ;-)[/p][/quote]I think if the truth was known those criticising cycling on here and other threads are usually those who are either too lazy or not physically capable of getting on a bike (I include myself) and you will and do certainly have the last laugh,keep smiling. nosuchluck54
  • Score: 5

3:44pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Ahasuerus says...

Whatever his short comings I cannot see how one can blame Spottiswood for these travel problems. And it's not much fun cycling if you are sick or elderly going to the hospital, or going from, say, Christchurch to Poole for work or an appointment, or indeed for any journey exceeding, what, say 10 miles, not to mention the danger involved when cycling on major roads. The Castle Lane/Barrack Road/Spur Road setup needs urgent attention, especially with the potential Airport emergency. And large numbers of new homes are scheduled for Roeshot Hill in Christchurch, which will exacerbate all these problems
Whatever his short comings I cannot see how one can blame Spottiswood for these travel problems. And it's not much fun cycling if you are sick or elderly going to the hospital, or going from, say, Christchurch to Poole for work or an appointment, or indeed for any journey exceeding, what, say 10 miles, not to mention the danger involved when cycling on major roads. The Castle Lane/Barrack Road/Spur Road setup needs urgent attention, especially with the potential Airport emergency. And large numbers of new homes are scheduled for Roeshot Hill in Christchurch, which will exacerbate all these problems Ahasuerus
  • Score: 4

4:02pm Thu 9 Jan 14

TJGirl says...

I would love to cycle but I am a community health worker who HAS TO DRIVE to see patients. SO SMUG bicycle riders what solution do you have ??? And if you think everyone should cycle, walk or bus it in no matter how far away they live, you live in la la land !!!! Useful and helpful suggestions might help!
I would love to cycle but I am a community health worker who HAS TO DRIVE to see patients. SO SMUG bicycle riders what solution do you have ??? And if you think everyone should cycle, walk or bus it in no matter how far away they live, you live in la la land !!!! Useful and helpful suggestions might help! TJGirl
  • Score: 10

4:07pm Thu 9 Jan 14

apop3d says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
The weather is bad, roads are closed, everyone wants to drive and the roads cant cope. All of this put together leads to traffic delays, its not just at the hospital either, its all over the area. Fixing castle lane would never prevent this as there are so many factors, freak weather cannot be predicted for when designing road junctions. Some people have lost their homes, i think they would rather spend 2 hours in a car park every day for a week. The best solution to all congestion is to reduce the number of cars on the road, not to put more/less lights in or to install/remove roundabouts. The hospital needs a small service/emergency road with a barrier to allow emergency vehicles to bypass the traffic, maybe from blackwater side of the stour.
Wrong. Fixing Castle Lane would absolutely prevent this. This is a situation where the roads are just not capable of handling the traffic. Reducing traffic won't work...because it won't happen. Hooray for people on bikes....but if you think people are going to give up their cars you are mistaken.

This is not an isolated incident, in the last 2 months there have been stories in the Echo about people being trapped in car parks for 2 hours or more at ASDA and at Castle Pointe.

If the government was willing to spend the money needed to add new lanes and new roads, this wouldn't be an issue. Would it prevent it in any conceivable circumstance? No, but it would keep it from happening on a clockwork basis.

Until that time, expect to see these headlines regularly. Oh, and it's ok to be trapped in a car for 2 hours because it's better than losing a house? Please.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: The weather is bad, roads are closed, everyone wants to drive and the roads cant cope. All of this put together leads to traffic delays, its not just at the hospital either, its all over the area. Fixing castle lane would never prevent this as there are so many factors, freak weather cannot be predicted for when designing road junctions. Some people have lost their homes, i think they would rather spend 2 hours in a car park every day for a week. The best solution to all congestion is to reduce the number of cars on the road, not to put more/less lights in or to install/remove roundabouts. The hospital needs a small service/emergency road with a barrier to allow emergency vehicles to bypass the traffic, maybe from blackwater side of the stour.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Fixing Castle Lane would absolutely prevent this. This is a situation where the roads are just not capable of handling the traffic. Reducing traffic won't work...because it won't happen. Hooray for people on bikes....but if you think people are going to give up their cars you are mistaken. This is not an isolated incident, in the last 2 months there have been stories in the Echo about people being trapped in car parks for 2 hours or more at ASDA and at Castle Pointe. If the government was willing to spend the money needed to add new lanes and new roads, this wouldn't be an issue. Would it prevent it in any conceivable circumstance? No, but it would keep it from happening on a clockwork basis. Until that time, expect to see these headlines regularly. Oh, and it's ok to be trapped in a car for 2 hours because it's better than losing a house? Please. apop3d
  • Score: 6

4:24pm Thu 9 Jan 14

coster says...

As Christchurch Hospital has been downgraded to a GP's surgery all residents now have to visit RBH. As the By-Pass is no such thing , merely a name, all traffic is funnelled through the town. These are small items in the list of incompetent decisions made by our public services. Traffic control ,Roadworks, Hospital Failures, Planning' Mistakes' - the list goes on, get used to it, it will only get worse . 75 Million population and the highest density in the World is threatened.
As Christchurch Hospital has been downgraded to a GP's surgery all residents now have to visit RBH. As the By-Pass is no such thing , merely a name, all traffic is funnelled through the town. These are small items in the list of incompetent decisions made by our public services. Traffic control ,Roadworks, Hospital Failures, Planning' Mistakes' - the list goes on, get used to it, it will only get worse . 75 Million population and the highest density in the World is threatened. coster
  • Score: 7

4:37pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Frank28 says...

Until the traffic jams are resolved, they'll have to bring in more Air Ambulances. It doesn't matter what it costs. Patients must get to A&E quickly, and without delay. Maybe the Government will have to intervene on this one.
Until the traffic jams are resolved, they'll have to bring in more Air Ambulances. It doesn't matter what it costs. Patients must get to A&E quickly, and without delay. Maybe the Government will have to intervene on this one. Frank28
  • Score: 2

4:45pm Thu 9 Jan 14

pauls55 says...

I still cannot understand when they built the hospital in the first place they couldn't have designed a road running from the back straight onto the spur road instead of all the traffic being channeled down one road ending at the Littledown lights.
As for the ridiculous - why dont you all cycle - argument, this is a hospital.. durrr.. so anyone going there is either unwell or picking up someone who is. Anyway you cannot cycle safely when its pouring rain, windy, snowy or icy, in other words most of the year!
I still cannot understand when they built the hospital in the first place they couldn't have designed a road running from the back straight onto the spur road instead of all the traffic being channeled down one road ending at the Littledown lights. As for the ridiculous - why dont you all cycle - argument, this is a hospital.. durrr.. so anyone going there is either unwell or picking up someone who is. Anyway you cannot cycle safely when its pouring rain, windy, snowy or icy, in other words most of the year! pauls55
  • Score: 6

4:50pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Ebb Tide says...

Ebb Tide wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
High Treason wrote:
WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.
Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home.
Who is wanting to divert public attention away from a very critical report about hospital services, whilst we wait for the overdue and expected comment from the Council of Governors that was elected / appointed to ensure good governance ? ?
We all know that A&E service is very important and access must be improved BUT access to a hospital that the CQC has criticised means that the news about the progress of the statement from the elected / appointed Council of Governors should not be diverted by access problems.

Do we really want to gain access to a hospital that the CQC is criticising ??
[quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: WOW! Tony Sportswood is demanding something is done about the traffic congestion. No one is going to listen to such a man who created mayhem in RBH whilst pursuing his corporate dream. Amazed he wasn't sacked.[/p][/quote]Spotswoods motivation is probably down to himself getting caught up in traffic on when he goes home.[/p][/quote]Who is wanting to divert public attention away from a very critical report about hospital services, whilst we wait for the overdue and expected comment from the Council of Governors that was elected / appointed to ensure good governance ? ?[/p][/quote]We all know that A&E service is very important and access must be improved BUT access to a hospital that the CQC has criticised means that the news about the progress of the statement from the elected / appointed Council of Governors should not be diverted by access problems. Do we really want to gain access to a hospital that the CQC is criticising ?? Ebb Tide
  • Score: -7

5:07pm Thu 9 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Castle Lane East, a manifestation of an everyday UK problem because all those responsible for the disgraceful mess here are in what have become unaccountable 'for life' senior public sector positions, where the pay and pensions will just keep rolling in regardless of performance. (Which makes Spotswood's intervention supremely ironic!)

So sorry folks, go and find someone to complain to who gives a...........
Castle Lane East, a manifestation of an everyday UK problem because all those responsible for the disgraceful mess here are in what have become unaccountable 'for life' senior public sector positions, where the pay and pensions will just keep rolling in regardless of performance. (Which makes Spotswood's intervention supremely ironic!) So sorry folks, go and find someone to complain to who gives a........... muscliffman
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Thu 9 Jan 14

LJT1966 says...

As someone who works at Christchurch hospital it's taken me nearly an hour to travel 2 1/2 miles to work by car every morning this week along Fairmile road. And before you say catch the bus tthat would be a 1a along Barrack Road so would take just as long. So we've all been affected by it too this week.
As someone who works at Christchurch hospital it's taken me nearly an hour to travel 2 1/2 miles to work by car every morning this week along Fairmile road. And before you say catch the bus tthat would be a 1a along Barrack Road so would take just as long. So we've all been affected by it too this week. LJT1966
  • Score: 5

8:06pm Thu 9 Jan 14

bournemouthsimon says...

I just want to say you arse holes in the south vote for this crap get off your back sides and do something about it
I just want to say you arse holes in the south vote for this crap get off your back sides and do something about it bournemouthsimon
  • Score: 2

8:31pm Thu 9 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

So where was the chief exec of the hospital when they decided to be neighbours with two housing estates a law court a shopping centre. Numerous convenience shops take a ways schools a sports centre and the longest set of uncoordinated set of traffic lights this side of North Korea.stand by for a second runway east of the Broadway to take more Ratbagair flights .
So where was the chief exec of the hospital when they decided to be neighbours with two housing estates a law court a shopping centre. Numerous convenience shops take a ways schools a sports centre and the longest set of uncoordinated set of traffic lights this side of North Korea.stand by for a second runway east of the Broadway to take more Ratbagair flights . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

8:45pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Miss Appropriate says...

bournemouthsimon wrote:
I just want to say you arse holes in the south vote for this crap get off your back sides and do something about it
Once I manage to get home after being stuck in the traffic for 3 hours, manage to feed my hungry children and husband, washed up after dinner, made sandwiches, helped kids with homework and then get them to bed, pay the bills, put on a wash, deal with the sick cat, sort the leak in the roof from all the rain, deal with the year end tax, due the end of this month, deal with issues surrounding disabled son, check on elderly mother in law then of course I would be willing get of my "back side" and deal with both Bournemouth Council and Christchurch council regarding traffic issues!
Unfortunately everything is a done deal with both these councils and experience has taught me no matter what I say or do, does not make the slightest difference. Even if you vote people in or out, nothing changes due to various 15/25 yrs strategy plans, Agenda 21 etc. I have sat in on various council meetings over the last few years regarding the Roeshot Hill development of over 800 hundred to be built. The government dictates what the council has to do regardless of the infrastructure of the area. I'm sorry I can't ride my bike to work but since the kids don't automatically get into the local schools and the buses can't get to the schools because of the local traffic and different staring times, I have to drive them to different schools and then get myself to work!
[quote][p][bold]bournemouthsimon[/bold] wrote: I just want to say you arse holes in the south vote for this crap get off your back sides and do something about it[/p][/quote]Once I manage to get home after being stuck in the traffic for 3 hours, manage to feed my hungry children and husband, washed up after dinner, made sandwiches, helped kids with homework and then get them to bed, pay the bills, put on a wash, deal with the sick cat, sort the leak in the roof from all the rain, deal with the year end tax, due the end of this month, deal with issues surrounding disabled son, check on elderly mother in law then of course I would be willing get of my "back side" and deal with both Bournemouth Council and Christchurch council regarding traffic issues! Unfortunately everything is a done deal with both these councils and experience has taught me no matter what I say or do, does not make the slightest difference. Even if you vote people in or out, nothing changes due to various 15/25 yrs strategy plans, Agenda 21 etc. I have sat in on various council meetings over the last few years regarding the Roeshot Hill development of over 800 hundred to be built. The government dictates what the council has to do regardless of the infrastructure of the area. I'm sorry I can't ride my bike to work but since the kids don't automatically get into the local schools and the buses can't get to the schools because of the local traffic and different staring times, I have to drive them to different schools and then get myself to work! Miss Appropriate
  • Score: 10

11:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

TJGirl wrote:
I would love to cycle but I am a community health worker who HAS TO DRIVE to see patients. SO SMUG bicycle riders what solution do you have ??? And if you think everyone should cycle, walk or bus it in no matter how far away they live, you live in la la land !!!! Useful and helpful suggestions might help!
At no point have I said everyone should cycle, just that it would be a great solution to being stuck. I live 4 miles from my work and I drive. The other night it took an hour and half to get home to Christchurch. Rather than **** and moan and blame everyone else, i accepted that i chose to drive and that i could have cycled it in 20 mins. I am buying a bike this weekend, £25 from a bloke in Wimborne that is always selling 2nd hand bikes cheap, so its about the same cost as a few days fuel. With regards to weather, waterproof jackets and trousers are a great invention and keep you dry, a good set of lights and reflectors will keep you visible. The most dangerous things about cycling are people in cars believing they have more right to the road, and people on bicycles that believe they don't have to follow traffic laws. If all users actually followed the highway code and had some respect for each other it would be a lot safer. I feel sorry for motorcyclists as they have the potential to be doing a lot greater speed when someone pulls out in front of them or drives across them on a roundabout. There seems to be a phobia of cycling lately yet some people may spend 6x longer driving home and then pay to use a gym. Madness in my mind.
[quote][p][bold]TJGirl[/bold] wrote: I would love to cycle but I am a community health worker who HAS TO DRIVE to see patients. SO SMUG bicycle riders what solution do you have ??? And if you think everyone should cycle, walk or bus it in no matter how far away they live, you live in la la land !!!! Useful and helpful suggestions might help![/p][/quote]At no point have I said everyone should cycle, just that it would be a great solution to being stuck. I live 4 miles from my work and I drive. The other night it took an hour and half to get home to Christchurch. Rather than **** and moan and blame everyone else, i accepted that i chose to drive and that i could have cycled it in 20 mins. I am buying a bike this weekend, £25 from a bloke in Wimborne that is always selling 2nd hand bikes cheap, so its about the same cost as a few days fuel. With regards to weather, waterproof jackets and trousers are a great invention and keep you dry, a good set of lights and reflectors will keep you visible. The most dangerous things about cycling are people in cars believing they have more right to the road, and people on bicycles that believe they don't have to follow traffic laws. If all users actually followed the highway code and had some respect for each other it would be a lot safer. I feel sorry for motorcyclists as they have the potential to be doing a lot greater speed when someone pulls out in front of them or drives across them on a roundabout. There seems to be a phobia of cycling lately yet some people may spend 6x longer driving home and then pay to use a gym. Madness in my mind. Dorset Outsider
  • Score: -1

11:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

Solution: from the Wessex Way Roundabout to the Tesco light southbound, create a continuous bus/ambulance lane. Blue light vehicles (ambulances) can take priority at the hospital/Littlemore roundabout. Same northbound from the Tesco turning to the hospital roundabout. Simply a reordering of existing lanes.

Temporary traffic lights should adjust for blue light vehicles.

It isn't rocket science.
Solution: from the Wessex Way Roundabout to the Tesco light southbound, create a continuous bus/ambulance lane. Blue light vehicles (ambulances) can take priority at the hospital/Littlemore roundabout. Same northbound from the Tesco turning to the hospital roundabout. Simply a reordering of existing lanes. Temporary traffic lights should adjust for blue light vehicles. It isn't rocket science. Yankee1
  • Score: 0

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