Bournemouth's first free school moving to former air traffic control centre at Bournemouth Airport

Bournemouth Echo: Parents' anger over Bournemouth's first free school moving to airport's former air traffic training centre Parents' anger over Bournemouth's first free school moving to airport's former air traffic training centre

 

SHOCKED parents have reacted angrily to the news that Bournemouth’s first free school is moving to a former Air Traffic Control centre at Bournemouth Airport.

Parkfield School head Terry Conaghan, pictured, made the announcement on Tuesday and faced a barrage of questions at a special meeting held last night.

The news sparked anger among parents and prospective parents who had been promised the school would remain in Bournemouth town centre.

Pupils now face travelling six miles to the new site after negotiations with the owner of a town centre site fell through.

One parent told the Daily Echo: “Many parents are very upset. The original proposal was for the school to be in the town centre, a notion which encouraged many to sign up – now it isn’t even going to be in the same local authority area.

“Several parents I spoke to feel cheated, angry and let down. This raises lots of issues, the logistical problems of transporting the kids, combating traffic congestion, increased costs and, most of all, health.

"There must be serious questions raised about the health risks posed by having the school so near a source of major pollutants.”

The school is currently housed in temporary accommodation at Dorset House in Christchurch Road, Bournemouth.

Mr Conaghan, inset, said the decision was made to move to the airport because “we have no choice”.

COUNCIL ADVICE

Primary school (starting Reception in September)

The closing date is Wednesday, January 15. If you have already applied and wish to amend your school preferences, you can do so by emailing cs@bournemouth.gov.uk to be received by the closing date to be considered as an ‘on-time’ change.

The email should state your child’s name and date of birth, and clearly list your preferences in 1-2-3 order.

Alternatively, write to the School Admissions Team, THE3, Town Hall, Bourne Avenue, Bournemouth, BH2 6DY by January 15. Your letter will need to clearly state your child’s details and your new preference order.

Secondary school (Year 7 in September)

The closing date for secondary school admission applications has passed.

Parents can change their school preferences, but it will be considered as a late application. 

You can do so by email at cs@bournemouth.gov.uk – the next published ‘late’ closing date is February 3 so it will be helpful if you email us by that date. 

The email should state your child’s name and date of birth, and clearly list your preferences in 1-2-3 order.  Alternatively, write to the School Admissions Team, as above. The letter should be received by February 3. For details call 01202 456222.

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10:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better!
Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better! muscliffman

10:11am Wed 8 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

No more congestion out by the airport than the trawl into town and I am intrigued as to what the "possible health implications" of the new site are.

Surely better to have a new site than close.
No more congestion out by the airport than the trawl into town and I am intrigued as to what the "possible health implications" of the new site are. Surely better to have a new site than close. glendower2909

10:12am Wed 8 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

£5 to drop off in the morning for starters hardly a free school
£5 to drop off in the morning for starters hardly a free school Lord Spring

10:17am Wed 8 Jan 14

twynham says...

Handy drop off point for the airport though!
Handy drop off point for the airport though! twynham

10:18am Wed 8 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

Is the word forward planning being taught at this free school it seems to be lacking with those who set it up , can they take it off the curriculum.
Is the word forward planning being taught at this free school it seems to be lacking with those who set it up , can they take it off the curriculum. Lord Spring

10:34am Wed 8 Jan 14

Townee says...

Many parents made the choice to go to this free school because it taught a different way. Now they will want to be taught in a school close to home. I want, I want, sorry now you will have to take what's on offer or move to the new school.
Many parents made the choice to go to this free school because it taught a different way. Now they will want to be taught in a school close to home. I want, I want, sorry now you will have to take what's on offer or move to the new school. Townee

10:43am Wed 8 Jan 14

darth vader says...

Well that's just brilliant. My son won't be going there any more. He wanted to start there in September and he would have been able to get the bus to and from school everyday.
Well that's just brilliant. My son won't be going there any more. He wanted to start there in September and he would have been able to get the bus to and from school everyday. darth vader

10:46am Wed 8 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

Its a shame that some feel the need to be sarcastic and gloat over this. However I would hazard a guess the pupils, who are the ones that matter probably find that going to the airport a rather exciting start to their day.
Its a shame that some feel the need to be sarcastic and gloat over this. However I would hazard a guess the pupils, who are the ones that matter probably find that going to the airport a rather exciting start to their day. nosuchluck54

10:56am Wed 8 Jan 14

darth vader says...

It won't be that exciting once they've spent an hour on a couple of buses getting there. It's, quite frankly, a ridiculous decision.
It won't be that exciting once they've spent an hour on a couple of buses getting there. It's, quite frankly, a ridiculous decision. darth vader

10:59am Wed 8 Jan 14

TheDistrict says...

I am sure, wherever the school is located, a bus service will be provided to and from the school. I would imagine part of the car park opposite will be allocated to the school, for those wishing to take their children to school. As already stated above, it is far better than the school being closed altogether. What health problems are there. Pollution is not continuous, and indeed some distance away from the proposed site. Never affected the CAA workers, and controllers. Sound pollution, again I would imagine that the buildings are sound proof to a good degree. Again, the closest point from the apron is some distance away.

If you want the school, and its cirriculum, and there is no other alternative, then be happy, that the school can be retained, albeit not as original planned. Then as we all know, plans to change.
I am sure, wherever the school is located, a bus service will be provided to and from the school. I would imagine part of the car park opposite will be allocated to the school, for those wishing to take their children to school. As already stated above, it is far better than the school being closed altogether. What health problems are there. Pollution is not continuous, and indeed some distance away from the proposed site. Never affected the CAA workers, and controllers. Sound pollution, again I would imagine that the buildings are sound proof to a good degree. Again, the closest point from the apron is some distance away. If you want the school, and its cirriculum, and there is no other alternative, then be happy, that the school can be retained, albeit not as original planned. Then as we all know, plans to change. TheDistrict

11:00am Wed 8 Jan 14

lionheart says...

Other schools bus their pupils in. What's this thing about parents must being able to drop their kids off outside the gates.
Other schools bus their pupils in. What's this thing about parents must being able to drop their kids off outside the gates. lionheart

11:00am Wed 8 Jan 14

High Treason says...

twynham wrote:
Handy drop off point for the airport though!
Maybe they will charge a drop off fee.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Handy drop off point for the airport though![/p][/quote]Maybe they will charge a drop off fee. High Treason

11:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

Oh no, school won't be next door any more. I used to have to go miles to school every morning. Not everyone can have a school five minutes walk away. Although they probably could if the local authorities spent as much on primary and secondary schools as they seem to like on the university!
Oh no, school won't be next door any more. I used to have to go miles to school every morning. Not everyone can have a school five minutes walk away. Although they probably could if the local authorities spent as much on primary and secondary schools as they seem to like on the university! speedy231278

11:10am Wed 8 Jan 14

darth vader says...

There aren't that many pupils there of "bus age" that makes running a bus service feasible.

Have spoken with the council and changes can be made to the secondary school admission choice by February 5th. Though your new school choice wont be your first choice, rather a late change which is better than your second choice it seems.

It's a shame they decided to keep all the planning problems an issue until after the school admission forms had been filled out.
There aren't that many pupils there of "bus age" that makes running a bus service feasible. Have spoken with the council and changes can be made to the secondary school admission choice by February 5th. Though your new school choice wont be your first choice, rather a late change which is better than your second choice it seems. It's a shame they decided to keep all the planning problems an issue until after the school admission forms had been filled out. darth vader

11:12am Wed 8 Jan 14

ApplePie1 says...

There will inevitably be some parents that find this announcement uncomfortable. However, this article is appalling, overwhelmingly bias and completely negative. It ignores the reasoning, the positives and the views of the vast majority of parents. Yet another Bournemouth Echo 'drama for sales' alongside such rubbish articles as burnt pies!
There will inevitably be some parents that find this announcement uncomfortable. However, this article is appalling, overwhelmingly bias and completely negative. It ignores the reasoning, the positives and the views of the vast majority of parents. Yet another Bournemouth Echo 'drama for sales' alongside such rubbish articles as burnt pies! ApplePie1

11:13am Wed 8 Jan 14

High Treason says...

No such thing as a free school. It is simply a means for big business to take over the education system. many parents are blinkered when it comes to their children's education. They think "Academy" in the title somehow makes it better. They think "Free" enables their children to be educated outside the set routine of state schools. They think "Newly Qualified (cheaper to employ) teachers are better. They think "Parents" being involved in the decision making makes their children clever.
Dream on and when such people subscribe to the fact that starting their child's education before they begin school gives them the best chance. When they ensure their child gets a good nights sleep, goes to school clean and tidy, has learnt respect for others and parents stop using the human rights act in an attempt to justify their child's poor performance. Until then build as many "free" schools as you wish but the education is no better and in many cases a lot worse.
No such thing as a free school. It is simply a means for big business to take over the education system. many parents are blinkered when it comes to their children's education. They think "Academy" in the title somehow makes it better. They think "Free" enables their children to be educated outside the set routine of state schools. They think "Newly Qualified (cheaper to employ) teachers are better. They think "Parents" being involved in the decision making makes their children clever. Dream on and when such people subscribe to the fact that starting their child's education before they begin school gives them the best chance. When they ensure their child gets a good nights sleep, goes to school clean and tidy, has learnt respect for others and parents stop using the human rights act in an attempt to justify their child's poor performance. Until then build as many "free" schools as you wish but the education is no better and in many cases a lot worse. High Treason

11:14am Wed 8 Jan 14

wonkywilly says...

Ha, ha, ha, a, ha! Perhaps the parents will write to Mr Gove telling them how feel? But they won't. The Local Authority will now have to pick up the mess this will leave. Another Tory bad idea. The refurb of Dorset House as cost millions.
Ha, ha, ha, a, ha! Perhaps the parents will write to Mr Gove telling them how feel? But they won't. The Local Authority will now have to pick up the mess this will leave. Another Tory bad idea. The refurb of Dorset House as cost millions. wonkywilly

11:17am Wed 8 Jan 14

fartycat says...

Shambles.
Shambles. fartycat

11:32am Wed 8 Jan 14

misszfit says...

My son (who is currently a student at Parkfield and loving it) and I are excited about the new location where there will be less pollution, loads more space and the bus only takes about 20 mins from the Bournemouth, much quicker than the 2 buses I had to take to school when I was young! Wish the Echo wouldn't be so negative in their reporting and get a better perspective on how parents of pupils currently at the school feel. Most comments on the facebook page are really positive and I'm sure with the great school community we have we'll be able to sort out transport to and from the school.
My son (who is currently a student at Parkfield and loving it) and I are excited about the new location where there will be less pollution, loads more space and the bus only takes about 20 mins from the Bournemouth, much quicker than the 2 buses I had to take to school when I was young! Wish the Echo wouldn't be so negative in their reporting and get a better perspective on how parents of pupils currently at the school feel. Most comments on the facebook page are really positive and I'm sure with the great school community we have we'll be able to sort out transport to and from the school. misszfit

11:41am Wed 8 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

misszfit wrote:
My son (who is currently a student at Parkfield and loving it) and I are excited about the new location where there will be less pollution, loads more space and the bus only takes about 20 mins from the Bournemouth, much quicker than the 2 buses I had to take to school when I was young! Wish the Echo wouldn't be so negative in their reporting and get a better perspective on how parents of pupils currently at the school feel. Most comments on the facebook page are really positive and I'm sure with the great school community we have we'll be able to sort out transport to and from the school.
Yes it does give the impression that the parents are more concerned about the inconvenience to themselves rather than the pupils welfare, but hey that's our Echo isn't it and it is us commenting that keeps it going ,half the comments would not appear if it was a positive story,
[quote][p][bold]misszfit[/bold] wrote: My son (who is currently a student at Parkfield and loving it) and I are excited about the new location where there will be less pollution, loads more space and the bus only takes about 20 mins from the Bournemouth, much quicker than the 2 buses I had to take to school when I was young! Wish the Echo wouldn't be so negative in their reporting and get a better perspective on how parents of pupils currently at the school feel. Most comments on the facebook page are really positive and I'm sure with the great school community we have we'll be able to sort out transport to and from the school.[/p][/quote]Yes it does give the impression that the parents are more concerned about the inconvenience to themselves rather than the pupils welfare, but hey that's our Echo isn't it and it is us commenting that keeps it going ,half the comments would not appear if it was a positive story, nosuchluck54

11:45am Wed 8 Jan 14

Gordon Cann says...

On September 4th 2013 the Echo reported that the bill for refurbishing Dorset House had tripled to over £1 million

Perhaps we can be told who has gained from that expenditure , and given the low esteem with which politicians are held this would be an ideal opportunity for one or both of the Bournemouth MP s to get involved; either to demand an inquiry or justify the expenditure involved preferably through the columns of the Echo.

All in all a shambles.
On September 4th 2013 the Echo reported that the bill for refurbishing Dorset House had tripled to over £1 million Perhaps we can be told who has gained from that expenditure , and given the low esteem with which politicians are held this would be an ideal opportunity for one or both of the Bournemouth MP s to get involved; either to demand an inquiry or justify the expenditure involved preferably through the columns of the Echo. All in all a shambles. Gordon Cann

11:52am Wed 8 Jan 14

mark.s says...

So after spending all that on Dorset House, what happens when they move? If the expenditure went on improvements suitable for conversion of the site to a school, I doubt that would be useful should the place revert to offices again.

If they can start with a blank sheet of paper on a new site and build what they require from scratch, that will surely be a better school environment than a bodged office block conversion.
So after spending all that on Dorset House, what happens when they move? If the expenditure went on improvements suitable for conversion of the site to a school, I doubt that would be useful should the place revert to offices again. If they can start with a blank sheet of paper on a new site and build what they require from scratch, that will surely be a better school environment than a bodged office block conversion. mark.s

11:53am Wed 8 Jan 14

jeebuscripes says...

Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening?

I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children.
Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening? I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children. jeebuscripes

11:55am Wed 8 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

This must be costing an absolute fortune, we need to know more. I understand public money was spent doing up Dorset House for it's (very) short term role as a free school. If so, how much was spent - and what is to become of the building now?

Who will be footing the bill for adapting the Hurn building/s to now serve as a school (permanent/temporary
?) and of course, who is paying to re-refurbish Dorset House (again) for whatever it's next role may be?
This must be costing an absolute fortune, we need to know more. I understand public money was spent doing up Dorset House for it's (very) short term role as a free school. If so, how much was spent - and what is to become of the building now? Who will be footing the bill for adapting the Hurn building/s to now serve as a school (permanent/temporary ?) and of course, who is paying to re-refurbish Dorset House (again) for whatever it's next role may be? muscliffman

12:03pm Wed 8 Jan 14

DST says...

Also the Echo should get its facts right. The building in question was never an Air Traffic Control "Centre" - it was the old Air Traffic Control College. Aircraft were never actually controlled from that building.
Also the Echo should get its facts right. The building in question was never an Air Traffic Control "Centre" - it was the old Air Traffic Control College. Aircraft were never actually controlled from that building. DST

12:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

It's cheap land, a cheap location. These 'schools' are in it for the money, oh yes.
It's cheap land, a cheap location. These 'schools' are in it for the money, oh yes. whataboutthat

12:12pm Wed 8 Jan 14

snowy123 says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening?

I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children.
I agree with you. This school should never have been able to take children on until a permanent site was found, and kitted out accordingly. This will be the 3rd site in a year !
I also question the logic of parents who seem to be so concerned about the type of education and yet have signed their children up to a scheme which hasn't even got a proper school yet. Surely the most important things when deciding on a school are curriculum, environment and facilities ? How would you know if the school had a pleasant environment and good facilities for sports, technology etc if they have no building to assess. Sorry but that is a big gamble to take for your childs education. As another poster said. If your child "has what it takes" they will get on regardless and if not " alternative " education will make very little difference.
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening? I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children.[/p][/quote]I agree with you. This school should never have been able to take children on until a permanent site was found, and kitted out accordingly. This will be the 3rd site in a year ! I also question the logic of parents who seem to be so concerned about the type of education and yet have signed their children up to a scheme which hasn't even got a proper school yet. Surely the most important things when deciding on a school are curriculum, environment and facilities ? How would you know if the school had a pleasant environment and good facilities for sports, technology etc if they have no building to assess. Sorry but that is a big gamble to take for your childs education. As another poster said. If your child "has what it takes" they will get on regardless and if not " alternative " education will make very little difference. snowy123

12:29pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

DST wrote:
Also the Echo should get its facts right. The building in question was never an Air Traffic Control "Centre" - it was the old Air Traffic Control College. Aircraft were never actually controlled from that building.
But if the echo put that truth in, it would sway the article in the positive. An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice. And there will be less pollution at the airfield site than in the town centre surely??
[quote][p][bold]DST[/bold] wrote: Also the Echo should get its facts right. The building in question was never an Air Traffic Control "Centre" - it was the old Air Traffic Control College. Aircraft were never actually controlled from that building.[/p][/quote]But if the echo put that truth in, it would sway the article in the positive. An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice. And there will be less pollution at the airfield site than in the town centre surely?? Dorset Outsider

12:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

" An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice."
Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch
urch.
This decision is forced and it's farcical.
" An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice." Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch urch. This decision is forced and it's farcical. whataboutthat

12:45pm Wed 8 Jan 14

oldharryrocks! says...

nice balanced reporting from the echo
nice balanced reporting from the echo oldharryrocks!

12:47pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ijustthinkthat says...

this free school was never properly thought out from the beginning , spending millions on a temporary site was ridiculous and the promise of a permanent school within walking distance of the temporary one was a promise that was never going to be kept . I wonder where the parents that are objecting to the new site thought the permanent site was going to be ??? however perhaps children that live by hurn will benefit from the move. I don't agree with free schools and think it will be something , rather like selling off the gas and railways , the country will regret in the future
this free school was never properly thought out from the beginning , spending millions on a temporary site was ridiculous and the promise of a permanent school within walking distance of the temporary one was a promise that was never going to be kept . I wonder where the parents that are objecting to the new site thought the permanent site was going to be ??? however perhaps children that live by hurn will benefit from the move. I don't agree with free schools and think it will be something , rather like selling off the gas and railways , the country will regret in the future ijustthinkthat

12:51pm Wed 8 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

What an absolute fiasco. They have wasted a lot of money converting Dorset House so why not stay there, better that then spend another small fortune converting the ATC training centre and then finding that parents have made alternative arrangements.
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The choice if the airport site is questionable, hardly a suitable location for a school. I suppose they'll have to arrange for buses to pick children up in the town centre as it isn't going to be feasible for many parents to drive their children to and from school especially if they work in Bournemouth or Poole.
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What an absolute fiasco. They have wasted a lot of money converting Dorset House so why not stay there, better that then spend another small fortune converting the ATC training centre and then finding that parents have made alternative arrangements. . The choice if the airport site is questionable, hardly a suitable location for a school. I suppose they'll have to arrange for buses to pick children up in the town centre as it isn't going to be feasible for many parents to drive their children to and from school especially if they work in Bournemouth or Poole. . BmthNewshound

12:56pm Wed 8 Jan 14

EddieVH says...

Very unfortunately, this case provides an excellent exemplar of the major shortcomings of the Free Schools programme.

Unaccountable entities have been allowed to make alluring promises to parents who are understandably desperate to get their kids into schools that just might be better than the miserable, overcrowded, alternatives they would otherwise be forced to attend.

Millions of pounds of taxpayers' money has then been thrust at the new 'school' to 'make the magic happen'.

Even if the Local Authority were itself demonstrably capable of running decent primary schools, it's almost impossible to open a new school under LA control these days.
Very unfortunately, this case provides an excellent exemplar of the major shortcomings of the Free Schools programme. Unaccountable entities have been allowed [encouraged] to make alluring promises to parents who are understandably desperate to get their kids into schools that just might be better than the miserable, overcrowded, alternatives they would otherwise be forced to attend. Millions of pounds of taxpayers' money has then been thrust at the new 'school' to 'make the magic happen'. Even if the Local Authority were itself demonstrably capable of running decent primary schools, it's almost impossible to open a new school under LA control these days. EddieVH

1:01pm Wed 8 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

Interesting to note that Tony Spotswood CEO of the troubled Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch NHS Trust is Chair of Governors at Parkfield. If his performance at Parkfield relects his performance at the Royal Bournemouth if I had children at the school I'd be very worried.
Interesting to note that Tony Spotswood CEO of the troubled Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch NHS Trust is Chair of Governors at Parkfield. If his performance at Parkfield relects his performance at the Royal Bournemouth if I had children at the school I'd be very worried. BmthNewshound

1:05pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

whataboutthat wrote:
" An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice."
Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch

urch.
This decision is forced and it's farcical.
I drive to the airport for 8am everyday from Christchurch and there is rarely any issues, after 4.30pm it can be a different story though. With regards to facilities, what site in the town centre has a suitable swimming pool and playing fields? The ATC training school will have a large enough canteen for a school no doubt. I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey about the same distance as this site to the little down centre which has great facilities. That was a primary school, and they still operate this way. In my mind that makes,the site pretty suitable. The fact that is has to relocate from town is not ideal though, but if your child gets a good school with the education you want them to have, why is 4 miles a huge issue if they were to organise a bus route. Regarding 'bus age' anything over 4 should be ok on a private service with supervision. It works all over the country that way.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: " An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice." Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch urch. This decision is forced and it's farcical.[/p][/quote]I drive to the airport for 8am everyday from Christchurch and there is rarely any issues, after 4.30pm it can be a different story though. With regards to facilities, what site in the town centre has a suitable swimming pool and playing fields? The ATC training school will have a large enough canteen for a school no doubt. I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey about the same distance as this site to the little down centre which has great facilities. That was a primary school, and they still operate this way. In my mind that makes,the site pretty suitable. The fact that is has to relocate from town is not ideal though, but if your child gets a good school with the education you want them to have, why is 4 miles a huge issue if they were to organise a bus route. Regarding 'bus age' anything over 4 should be ok on a private service with supervision. It works all over the country that way. Dorset Outsider

1:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Samlee123 says...

Awful idea!!!! Not happy at all my son goes there and is so happy but I don't drive and live miles away!!!! The big question is what happens when my son needs to go to hospital at Poole and he's finished by 11 how the hell am I going to be able to get him to school??????? I can't????? So looks like I'll be moving him not fair at all!!!!! It's the most stupid place ever to put a school!!!!!!!!!
Awful idea!!!! Not happy at all my son goes there and is so happy but I don't drive and live miles away!!!! The big question is what happens when my son needs to go to hospital at Poole and he's finished by 11 how the hell am I going to be able to get him to school??????? I can't????? So looks like I'll be moving him not fair at all!!!!! It's the most stupid place ever to put a school!!!!!!!!! Samlee123

1:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

woby_tide says...

whataboutthat wrote:
" An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice."
Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch

urch.
This decision is forced and it's farcical.
How many schools have swimming pools nowadays? Almost none due to the costs associated with maintaining them.

Dining hall. It was a college. Do you think trainee Air Traffic Controllers survive on nothing?

Gym. How about giving them time. Does Dorset House has a gym, so it's no real difference but a site that is more suited to now provide a gym than an office block.

School yard? That will be the large car park that used to serve the staff and students. I believe each child aged 11-16 will be allocated a parking space to play in.

"This training college" yep you said it, an ex-"educational" facility being used to provide education. Heaven forbid. Instead of focussing on the negative why not look at the positive it could have that kids will be leaving that establishment having experienced an environment that has some aspects of Higher/Further Education whilst surrounded by business, manufacturing, industrial companies, hospitality, tourism and service sector employers. Is that a good footing for 16 year old kids heading out to more education or into work? Or is that a bad thing?
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: " An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice." Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch urch. This decision is forced and it's farcical.[/p][/quote]How many schools have swimming pools nowadays? Almost none due to the costs associated with maintaining them. Dining hall. It was a college. Do you think trainee Air Traffic Controllers survive on nothing? Gym. How about giving them time. Does Dorset House has a gym, so it's no real difference but a site that is more suited to now provide a gym than an office block. School yard? That will be the large car park that used to serve the staff and students. I believe each child aged 11-16 will be allocated a parking space to play in. "This training college" yep you said it, an ex-"educational" facility being used to provide education. Heaven forbid. Instead of focussing on the negative why not look at the positive it could have that kids will be leaving that establishment having experienced an environment that has some aspects of Higher/Further Education whilst surrounded by business, manufacturing, industrial companies, hospitality, tourism and service sector employers. Is that a good footing for 16 year old kids heading out to more education or into work? Or is that a bad thing? woby_tide

1:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip. whataboutthat

1:17pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities. Dorset Outsider

1:37pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Sadly as this farce stumbles from failure to another deluded squeak from some crank of a parent we are seeing millions upon millions wasted, for what.

Merely to see our chidren's education handed over the big business whereby the profit motive will be all. I don't blame the businesses that is the reason for existence, but to have a situation where already cheaper alternatives are being used in the way of unqualified teachers should set alarm bells ringing.

Unfortunately it is not that costly to hire a few smary salesman, conjure up a slick sales presentation and just as with the time share industry you will have a fair few gullible fools starred eyed with the greed button pushed firmly down.

Robbing other schools of funds to allow the education system to be devalued is not the answer. Education on the cheap is not the way forward - more so as the next generation will need all the help to compete in a more global economy.

I would say that those parents behind this idiocy should be ashamed but just before Xmas I had the chance to talk to a couple of parents who were wanting to send their son to this farce. to say they were clueless would be a massive understatement. i suspect the logistics of getting their son from Parkstone and back to the airport might have more effect than any reasoned argument - that presumes that this travelling flea circus will not move again, the scout camp, next door to the homeless shelter, now in nissan huts on the airport.

dearie dear me ... when will the deluded wake ?

ps why the move, was the Dorset House site as totally unsuitable as warned a few months back ?
.
Sadly as this farce stumbles from failure to another deluded squeak from some crank of a parent we are seeing millions upon millions wasted, for what. Merely to see our chidren's education handed over the big business whereby the profit motive will be all. I don't blame the businesses that is the reason for existence, but to have a situation where already cheaper alternatives are being used in the way of unqualified teachers should set alarm bells ringing. Unfortunately it is not that costly to hire a few smary salesman, conjure up a slick sales presentation and just as with the time share industry you will have a fair few gullible fools starred eyed with the greed button pushed firmly down. Robbing other schools of funds to allow the education system to be devalued is not the answer. Education on the cheap is not the way forward - more so as the next generation will need all the help to compete in a more global economy. I would say that those parents behind this idiocy should be ashamed but just before Xmas I had the chance to talk to a couple of parents who were wanting to send their son to this farce. to say they were clueless would be a massive understatement. i suspect the logistics of getting their son from Parkstone and back to the airport might have more effect than any reasoned argument - that presumes that this travelling flea circus will not move again, the scout camp, next door to the homeless shelter, now in nissan huts on the airport. dearie dear me ... when will the deluded wake ? ps why the move, was the Dorset House site as totally unsuitable as warned a few months back ? . Bob49

1:48pm Wed 8 Jan 14

snowy123 says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience.
Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.[/p][/quote]But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience. Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best. snowy123

1:51pm Wed 8 Jan 14

woby_tide says...

Samlee123 wrote:
Awful idea!!!! Not happy at all my son goes there and is so happy but I don't drive and live miles away!!!! The big question is what happens when my son needs to go to hospital at Poole and he's finished by 11 how the hell am I going to be able to get him to school??????? I can't????? So looks like I'll be moving him not fair at all!!!!! It's the most stupid place ever to put a school!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe they haven't thought to build a school around your exact personal requirements. Where's the justice......
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Awful idea!!!! Not happy at all my son goes there and is so happy but I don't drive and live miles away!!!! The big question is what happens when my son needs to go to hospital at Poole and he's finished by 11 how the hell am I going to be able to get him to school??????? I can't????? So looks like I'll be moving him not fair at all!!!!! It's the most stupid place ever to put a school!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I can't believe they haven't thought to build a school around your exact personal requirements. Where's the justice...... woby_tide

1:53pm Wed 8 Jan 14

TinyLegacy says...

In my day, you'd walk 50 mile in blizzards... all year round...
In my day, you'd walk 50 mile in blizzards... all year round... TinyLegacy

2:46pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Samlee123 says...

Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!! Samlee123

2:51pm Wed 8 Jan 14

wilkiemini says...

Isn't it ironic that this "Free" school is costing a lot of money?

I doubt much sympathy will be available after the bleating about having to spend over a million on renovations on the current rented building. What will the new building be costing everyone?
Isn't it ironic that this "Free" school is costing a lot of money? I doubt much sympathy will be available after the bleating about having to spend over a million on renovations on the current rented building. What will the new building be costing everyone? wilkiemini

2:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

PML114 says...

Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority
Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit.
Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity.
What catchment area will this geographic location serve?
Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth?
Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation.
"Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".
Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit. Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity. What catchment area will this geographic location serve? Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth? Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation. "Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex". PML114

3:08pm Wed 8 Jan 14

woby_tide says...

PML114 wrote:
Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority
Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit.
Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity.
What catchment area will this geographic location serve?
Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth?
Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation.
"Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".
Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy.
[quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit. Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity. What catchment area will this geographic location serve? Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth? Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation. "Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".[/p][/quote]Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy. woby_tide

3:29pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them

Now who might benefit from this ?

Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc)

Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t

and who will lose from this ?

Children who need a decent education to compete in the future


A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon.

Children deserve better !
Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them Now who might benefit from this ? Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc) Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t and who will lose from this ? Children who need a decent education to compete in the future A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon. Children deserve better ! Bob49

3:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

charlie2004 says...

Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes. charlie2004

3:48pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Samlee123 says...

charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
[quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :) Samlee123

3:49pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Rabbitman64 says...

Yet another failed Tory Policy!
Yet another failed Tory Policy! Rabbitman64

4:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Samlee123 wrote:
charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)[/p][/quote]Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option) Bob49

4:16pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Gordon Cann says...

I would suggest, if this is to be fully investigated , that all those concerned and who have commented write to

Rt. Hon. Margaret Hodge MP,
Chair of the House of Commons Public Accounts Select Committee.
House of Commons.
London
and ask for a full review of how public money has been spent on this matter -. with a copy to their M,P,
I would suggest, if this is to be fully investigated , that all those concerned and who have commented write to Rt. Hon. Margaret Hodge MP, Chair of the House of Commons Public Accounts Select Committee. House of Commons. London and ask for a full review of how public money has been spent on this matter -. with a copy to their M,P, Gordon Cann

4:18pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

snowy123 wrote:
Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience.
Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best.
Quite agree Snowy. My daughter is at Avonbourne and doing very well. The facilities in that school are unbelievable. Quite why any uptight parent feels they stand a better chance at some gimcrack ourtfit like Parkfield is beyond me. Seriously, education in an office block then at some run down post war khazi saturated in aviation fuel or constantly buzzed by irritating little Cessnas. You couldn't make it up. Come on 4x4 mums who believe their child is 'oh so special' and needs 'better' get real - you're being taken for a ride. Ask your husbands for their honest opinion about all this free school nonsense - they just go along with you don't they?
[quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.[/p][/quote]But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience. Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best.[/p][/quote]Quite agree Snowy. My daughter is at Avonbourne and doing very well. The facilities in that school are unbelievable. Quite why any uptight parent feels they stand a better chance at some gimcrack ourtfit like Parkfield is beyond me. Seriously, education in an office block then at some run down post war khazi saturated in aviation fuel or constantly buzzed by irritating little Cessnas. You couldn't make it up. Come on 4x4 mums who believe their child is 'oh so special' and needs 'better' get real - you're being taken for a ride. Ask your husbands for their honest opinion about all this free school nonsense - they just go along with you don't they? whataboutthat

5:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Samlee123 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)
Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)[/p][/quote]Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)[/p][/quote]Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!! Samlee123

5:21pm Wed 8 Jan 14

lionheart says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
" An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice."
Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch


urch.
This decision is forced and it's farcical.
I drive to the airport for 8am everyday from Christchurch and there is rarely any issues, after 4.30pm it can be a different story though. With regards to facilities, what site in the town centre has a suitable swimming pool and playing fields? The ATC training school will have a large enough canteen for a school no doubt. I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey about the same distance as this site to the little down centre which has great facilities. That was a primary school, and they still operate this way. In my mind that makes,the site pretty suitable. The fact that is has to relocate from town is not ideal though, but if your child gets a good school with the education you want them to have, why is 4 miles a huge issue if they were to organise a bus route. Regarding 'bus age' anything over 4 should be ok on a private service with supervision. It works all over the country that way.
Did you go to Winton School for Boys when it was in Coronation Avenue Moordown. In the 50's games were at the East Way playings fields and in the 60's break time was used up walking to Ensbury Avenue.

Inconvenience never stopped us enjoying ourselves or having very competitive teams.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: " An old college to be re used as... A school? Sounds like someone actually thought that through and made a good choice." Really? Where are the playing fields, the gym, the school yard, the dining hall, the swimming pool, etc. What sort of ad hoc world do you want childrfen to be educatedf in? This trrainig college was used by and for largely self-sustaining adults in a pretty grim semi industrial location. INcidentally, getting out to Hurn at 8 in the morning has never been quick from the east side of Bournemouth/Christch urch. This decision is forced and it's farcical.[/p][/quote]I drive to the airport for 8am everyday from Christchurch and there is rarely any issues, after 4.30pm it can be a different story though. With regards to facilities, what site in the town centre has a suitable swimming pool and playing fields? The ATC training school will have a large enough canteen for a school no doubt. I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey about the same distance as this site to the little down centre which has great facilities. That was a primary school, and they still operate this way. In my mind that makes,the site pretty suitable. The fact that is has to relocate from town is not ideal though, but if your child gets a good school with the education you want them to have, why is 4 miles a huge issue if they were to organise a bus route. Regarding 'bus age' anything over 4 should be ok on a private service with supervision. It works all over the country that way.[/p][/quote]Did you go to Winton School for Boys when it was in Coronation Avenue Moordown. In the 50's games were at the East Way playings fields and in the 60's break time was used up walking to Ensbury Avenue. Inconvenience never stopped us enjoying ourselves or having very competitive teams. lionheart

5:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

John T says...

The next big decision for these Free Schools is normally to change their name to something more appropriate; I suggest that in this case the school name should be changed from Parkfield School to Partfilled Academy!
The next big decision for these Free Schools is normally to change their name to something more appropriate; I suggest that in this case the school name should be changed from Parkfield School to Partfilled Academy! John T

5:37pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Samlee123 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)
Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!!
Oh dearie me

The irony of you squeaking about 'manors' as you so quaintly put it, after calling me obscene names is probably lost on you - as was the joking comment about this failing idiocy - a tone set by yourself previously via the use of 'smileys' in your post.

If it is of any matter i do have children and grandchildren and am not sat here all day, just sitting with a very ill family member, something I do regularly.

The debate is NOT about your child as you seem to imagine. It is about the school and the wider concerns this news throws up.

So maybe it is you who should stop making this personal, you who should show some manners by not throwing obscenities about and maybe use your time on the internet to do a bit of research about these idiocies and understand what is really behind them and why so many have empty plaaces and why so many parents have rejected them. (probably understood that their children's education is far too important to be used as a means to make money for some anonymous business).
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)[/p][/quote]Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)[/p][/quote]Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dearie me The irony of you squeaking about 'manors' as you so quaintly put it, after calling me obscene names is probably lost on you - as was the joking comment about this failing idiocy - a tone set by yourself previously via the use of 'smileys' in your post. If it is of any matter i do have children and grandchildren and am not sat here all day, just sitting with a very ill family member, something I do regularly. The debate is NOT about your child as you seem to imagine. It is about the school and the wider concerns this news throws up. So maybe it is you who should stop making this personal, you who should show some manners by not throwing obscenities about and maybe use your time on the internet to do a bit of research about these idiocies and understand what is really behind them and why so many have empty plaaces and why so many parents have rejected them. (probably understood that their children's education is far too important to be used as a means to make money for some anonymous business). Bob49

5:44pm Wed 8 Jan 14

John T says...

Samlee123 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)
Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!!
And just you remember, Bob49, 'Manors maketh man'....or so thinks David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Geoge Osborne, Michael Gove and other such toffs, who are so keen to foist these so called Free Schools on those gullible enough to trust their 'lordable' intentions!
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)[/p][/quote]Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)[/p][/quote]Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!![/p][/quote]And just you remember, Bob49, 'Manors maketh man'....or so thinks David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Geoge Osborne, Michael Gove and other such toffs, who are so keen to foist these so called Free Schools on those gullible enough to trust their 'lordable' intentions! John T

5:49pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

News Headers
2014 Floating Free School
2015 Failing Free School
Pick n'mix headlines for the next year or two
Children need consistency
They ain't getting it.
News Headers 2014 Floating Free School 2015 Failing Free School Pick n'mix headlines for the next year or two Children need consistency They ain't getting it. whataboutthat

6:31pm Wed 8 Jan 14

PML114 says...

woby_tide wrote:
PML114 wrote:
Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority
Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit.
Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity.
What catchment area will this geographic location serve?
Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth?
Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation.
"Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".
Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy.
The funding is from central government but is based on , and removed from, the local pupil funding formula.
The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves. If a school is set up in one authority and then moved to a neighbouring authority, both the funding formula and the purported need is altered.
It is unlikely that a perceived need in the urban environ of Bournemouth is the same need perceived in rural Dorset. One basic difference is that the selective system of Bournemouth is not the comprehensive system of Dorset.
If the need is perceived, to get away from the Bournemouth and Poole selection process, then simply moving to Dorset schools would suffice.
To move a school to Dorset to address a need in Bournemouth, and consequently to remove funding from Dorset schools because that is where you have found premises, is not the intention of the free school programme.
[quote][p][bold]woby_tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit. Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity. What catchment area will this geographic location serve? Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth? Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation. "Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".[/p][/quote]Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy.[/p][/quote]The funding is from central government but is based on , and removed from, the local pupil funding formula. The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves. If a school is set up in one authority and then moved to a neighbouring authority, both the funding formula and the purported need is altered. It is unlikely that a perceived need in the urban environ of Bournemouth is the same need perceived in rural Dorset. One basic difference is that the selective system of Bournemouth is not the comprehensive system of Dorset. If the need is perceived, to get away from the Bournemouth and Poole selection process, then simply moving to Dorset schools would suffice. To move a school to Dorset to address a need in Bournemouth, and consequently to remove funding from Dorset schools because that is where you have found premises, is not the intention of the free school programme. PML114

6:36pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

PML114 wrote:
woby_tide wrote:
PML114 wrote:
Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority
Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit.
Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity.
What catchment area will this geographic location serve?
Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth?
Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation.
"Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".
Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy.
The funding is from central government but is based on , and removed from, the local pupil funding formula.
The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves. If a school is set up in one authority and then moved to a neighbouring authority, both the funding formula and the purported need is altered.
It is unlikely that a perceived need in the urban environ of Bournemouth is the same need perceived in rural Dorset. One basic difference is that the selective system of Bournemouth is not the comprehensive system of Dorset.
If the need is perceived, to get away from the Bournemouth and Poole selection process, then simply moving to Dorset schools would suffice.
To move a school to Dorset to address a need in Bournemouth, and consequently to remove funding from Dorset schools because that is where you have found premises, is not the intention of the free school programme.
Thanks for the management speak clairification PML114. Clear everybody? Outcomes? Environs? Anybody?
[quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woby_tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth airport is in Christchurch. Christchurch is served by Dorset Education Authority Will the current funding authority allow funds to be used in an area outside of their remit. Will the parents of Bournemouth schoolchildren be enthused at their money being used to develop facilities in a neighbouring authority, or will Dorset schools be disadvantaged in order to provide Bournemouth with a facility that is at best troubled by insecurity. What catchment area will this geographic location serve? Will admissions still be processed by Poole and Bournemouth? Finally, who will correct the spelling mistakes and the grammar errors in the school website documentation. "Blizzards, luxury! when I were a lad we had to walk 70 miles and find our way in an "arctic vortex".[/p][/quote]Free means free of local authority control and catchments etc. as it is funded directly from the Secretary of State instead. Free to set it's own admissions policy.[/p][/quote]The funding is from central government but is based on , and removed from, the local pupil funding formula. The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves. If a school is set up in one authority and then moved to a neighbouring authority, both the funding formula and the purported need is altered. It is unlikely that a perceived need in the urban environ of Bournemouth is the same need perceived in rural Dorset. One basic difference is that the selective system of Bournemouth is not the comprehensive system of Dorset. If the need is perceived, to get away from the Bournemouth and Poole selection process, then simply moving to Dorset schools would suffice. To move a school to Dorset to address a need in Bournemouth, and consequently to remove funding from Dorset schools because that is where you have found premises, is not the intention of the free school programme.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the management speak clairification PML114. Clear everybody? Outcomes? Environs? Anybody? whataboutthat

7:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

PML114 says...

I am sorry
Environs, the surrounding area or district.
To simplify the funding discussion.
A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole
A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it.
The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school.
I am not sure what "management speak" is?
A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it."
I am sorry Environs, the surrounding area or district. To simplify the funding discussion. A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it. The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school. I am not sure what "management speak" is? A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it." PML114

7:57pm Wed 8 Jan 14

spooki says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
We had outside toilets at Summerbee Juniors in the 80's!
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.[/p][/quote]We had outside toilets at Summerbee Juniors in the 80's! spooki

7:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

spooki says...

Wasn't this school originally meant to be in the McCarthy & Stone building (aka Jelly Mould/Bouncy Castle) by Asda?
I never thought that was a suitable place for a school, Dorset House wasn't suitable and an old camp in the woods wasn't suitable. So why are we now so surprised that they've picked ANOTHER unsuitable site?
It's ok for those who have cars, but wasn't this school an infants? I wouldn't like my kid going from Cooper Dean to the airport at the age of 5.
Wasn't this school originally meant to be in the McCarthy & Stone building (aka Jelly Mould/Bouncy Castle) by Asda? I never thought that was a suitable place for a school, Dorset House wasn't suitable and an old camp in the woods wasn't suitable. So why are we now so surprised that they've picked ANOTHER unsuitable site? It's ok for those who have cars, but wasn't this school an infants? I wouldn't like my kid going from Cooper Dean to the airport at the age of 5. spooki

8:04pm Wed 8 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

Samlee123 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
charlie2004 wrote:
Samlee123 wrote:
Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!!
Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.
Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)
Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)
Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!!
It looks quite flat out there , don't worry about getting the kid to school samleigh
when it rains you can take him /her in a boat you know
[quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samlee123[/bold] wrote: Really!!!!!!! I'm not talking about myself here I'm talking my son goes to hospital and after he goes back to school and as I don't drive I there for can't get him there!!! So that would mean time off and me his mother getting in trouble for him not going to school!!! And I've put my son into local school like porchester and he got bullied badly and there's a massive waiting list for other local school so parkfield was on offer and where I will say my son is doing so well and he's loving it there!!!! So get off your high horse!!![/p][/quote]Wow! After reading that I was wondering if Parkfield offer adult education classes.[/p][/quote]Well if they do I'll be sure too go! :) thanks for the tip! :)[/p][/quote]Probably be best to check they haven't moved again before you set off - and avoid Tues nights Lern Engleesh classes taken by Gonzales Pedro (it's his night off and he was the cheapest option)[/p][/quote]Jumped up **** you are let me guess bet your sat on your **** all day with no kids and have nothing better than picking on people!! This is about my child that goes to this school not about who can write and who can't so please go to some grown up classes and learn some manors!!!![/p][/quote]It looks quite flat out there , don't worry about getting the kid to school samleigh when it rains you can take him /her in a boat you know nickynoodah

8:20pm Wed 8 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

PML114 wrote:
I am sorry
Environs, the surrounding area or district.
To simplify the funding discussion.
A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole
A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it.
The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school.
I am not sure what "management speak" is?
A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it."
Oh PML114 you're such a pendant...!
[quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: I am sorry Environs, the surrounding area or district. To simplify the funding discussion. A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it. The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school. I am not sure what "management speak" is? A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it."[/p][/quote]Oh PML114 you're such a pendant...! whataboutthat

8:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Felpro says...

Grow up everyone.
Grow up everyone. Felpro

8:47pm Wed 8 Jan 14

fireflier says...

This is one of the outcomes you get when you let politics play with education!!!
Sorry..but get used to it ...or change your thinking!
This is one of the outcomes you get when you let politics play with education!!! Sorry..but get used to it ...or change your thinking! fireflier

8:49pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bafta1 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them

Now who might benefit from this ?

Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc)

Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t

and who will lose from this ?

Children who need a decent education to compete in the future


A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon.

Children deserve better !
Maybe research the Teachers' credentials, before casting aspersions....
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them Now who might benefit from this ? Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc) Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t and who will lose from this ? Children who need a decent education to compete in the future A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon. Children deserve better ![/p][/quote]Maybe research the Teachers' credentials, before casting aspersions.... Bafta1

9:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

spooki wrote:
Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
We had outside toilets at Summerbee Juniors in the 80's!
Did you try and pee over the wall, ours was an open air one
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.[/p][/quote]We had outside toilets at Summerbee Juniors in the 80's![/p][/quote]Did you try and pee over the wall, ours was an open air one Lord Spring

9:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

"The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves"

That is rather misleading. These idiocies are not set up in response to need - in fact the opposite is true. They are set up through a variety of cranks and crackpots be they religious, specialist interest groups or simply politically minded celebs demanding them An entirely different thing.. The consequence of this is that money is being wasted on over capacity in some areas and overcrowding in others.

What happens when the original zealots move on, as their children leave ? There is a plaintive cry from a parent above who complains of the extra time this move will cause. But was not the whole point of these schools that they would be run by parents. But where is the guarantee that each new groups of parents will contain enough with the time and expertise to run a school. My guess is they won't - and as seen here, within weeks that lack of expertise and support from elsewhere has led to this shambles

Eventually these idiocies will fall into the hands of big business(as was the intent) and it will be the profit motive as the main guide. Something that does not happen in the private school sector, which is what a fair number of these deluded (greedy) parents were thinking they were getting.

What they are getting is education on the cheap in shoddy makeshift schools - and the fear for others must be that they are acting as a willing trojan horse for more of this downgrading of the education system.

Surely it must have occurred to these parents by now that those running this farce are totally out of their depth, otherwise how the hell did they not see the inadequacies of this building when they moved in barely a few months before ? Or was it that they were so blinded to see there pet project get off the ground that the children's needs came way behind that fanaticism ?

A look at Sweden where this idea is being tried has recently (Dec 3rd) revealed that exam results have fallen abruptly while investigations have shown that schools are covertly being selective in order to cover these failings. Even the many of the for-profit companies running these schools are now reporting financial difficulties. Sweden's education minister Jan Björklund has stated that the government will now have to end this failing expirement and return the schools to accountable control.

This countries children will have a far far harder task to compete than previous generations, What they do not need is a botched system of hole in the wal,l St Trinian's and Whacko type schools ran and staffed by amateurs, however well meaning.

Parents need to put down the shiny brochure and look at the reality. There would be uproar if the NHS was even proposing this kind of shoddy delivery never mind doing it, yet for a combination of political dogmatism and greed, children are being stuffed through these failures.

Sickening, and no cause to gloat at all.
"The need for a free school is decided by the area that it serves" That is rather misleading. These idiocies are not set up in response to need - in fact the opposite is true. They are set up through a variety of cranks and crackpots be they religious, specialist interest groups or simply politically minded celebs demanding them An entirely different thing.. The consequence of this is that money is being wasted on over capacity in some areas and overcrowding in others. What happens when the original zealots move on, as their children leave ? There is a plaintive cry from a parent above who complains of the extra time this move will cause. But was not the whole point of these schools that they would be run by parents. But where is the guarantee that each new groups of parents will contain enough with the time and expertise to run a school. My guess is they won't - and as seen here, within weeks that lack of expertise and support from elsewhere has led to this shambles Eventually these idiocies will fall into the hands of big business(as was the intent) and it will be the profit motive as the main guide. Something that does not happen in the private school sector, which is what a fair number of these deluded (greedy) parents were thinking they were getting. What they are getting is education on the cheap in shoddy makeshift schools - and the fear for others must be that they are acting as a willing trojan horse for more of this downgrading of the education system. Surely it must have occurred to these parents by now that those running this farce are totally out of their depth, otherwise how the hell did they not see the inadequacies of this building when they moved in barely a few months before ? Or was it that they were so blinded to see there pet project get off the ground that the children's needs came way behind that fanaticism ? A look at Sweden where this idea is being tried has recently (Dec 3rd) revealed that exam results have fallen abruptly while investigations have shown that schools are covertly being selective in order to cover these failings. Even the many of the for-profit companies running these schools are now reporting financial difficulties. Sweden's education minister Jan Björklund has stated that the government will now have to end this failing expirement and return the schools to accountable control. This countries children will have a far far harder task to compete than previous generations, What they do not need is a botched system of hole in the wal,l St Trinian's and Whacko type schools ran and staffed by amateurs, however well meaning. Parents need to put down the shiny brochure and look at the reality. There would be uproar if the NHS was even proposing this kind of shoddy delivery never mind doing it, yet for a combination of political dogmatism and greed, children are being stuffed through these failures. Sickening, and no cause to gloat at all. Bob49

9:15pm Wed 8 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

Bafta1 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them

Now who might benefit from this ?

Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc)

Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t

and who will lose from this ?

Children who need a decent education to compete in the future


A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon.

Children deserve better !
Maybe research the Teachers' credentials, before casting aspersions....
Agree with last comment. Was having same conversation with my daughter today who is on a post graduate teaching training program. I do see a time when a degree is not 100% needed to teach and in my view that is correct..

The possession of a degree is no guarantee of being a good teacher and conversely the absence of a degree ( as long as you have suitable skills poss gained in industry) should not preclude you from being a teacher.

I work with many people without degrees but who have a wealth of knowledge gained via their current employ in mathematics, IT and business who have excellent training /presentational skills who would make fantastic teachers. Agree that there would need to still be some form of PGCE to ensure suitability but not 100 a degree.

With the high fees for uni we are seeing a drop in numbers attending so surely again good role models who have succeeded without the need for a degree can only benefit students.
[quote][p][bold]Bafta1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Free from any democratic accountability so free to hire low paid unqualified 'teachers', free to shove kids in totally unsuitable buildings, free to hand over profits to the businesses running them Now who might benefit from this ? Government seeking to cut costs (not at Eton, Harrow, St pauls etc) Business seeking to make a quick buckducation t and who will lose from this ? Children who need a decent education to compete in the future A truly shameful activity and like the smokey old clapped out buses which wheezed around the town when we had 'free' buses, this cost cutting measure needs to end very soon. Children deserve better ![/p][/quote]Maybe research the Teachers' credentials, before casting aspersions....[/p][/quote]Agree with last comment. Was having same conversation with my daughter today who is on a post graduate teaching training program. I do see a time when a degree is not 100% needed to teach and in my view that is correct.. The possession of a degree is no guarantee of being a good teacher and conversely the absence of a degree ( as long as you have suitable skills poss gained in industry) should not preclude you from being a teacher. I work with many people without degrees but who have a wealth of knowledge gained via their current employ in mathematics, IT and business who have excellent training /presentational skills who would make fantastic teachers. Agree that there would need to still be some form of PGCE to ensure suitability but not 100 a degree. With the high fees for uni we are seeing a drop in numbers attending so surely again good role models who have succeeded without the need for a degree can only benefit students. glendower2909

9:40pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children.

As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?
Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children. As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ? Bob49

9:53pm Wed 8 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children.

As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?
Easy tiger. You will make yourself ill.

Essentially we are in agreement then. Teachers just need to have the relevant experience to produce results and we will all be happy and more importantly the kids will get decent education.

And as I was trying to explain above "unqualified" in this context simply means that within the current educational framework that the "teachers" employed at free schools do not necessarily have a specific teaching degree but as we both have said above as long as they have the ability it should not matter.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children. As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?[/p][/quote]Easy tiger. You will make yourself ill. Essentially we are in agreement then. Teachers just need to have the relevant experience to produce results and we will all be happy and more importantly the kids will get decent education. And as I was trying to explain above "unqualified" in this context simply means that within the current educational framework that the "teachers" employed at free schools do not necessarily have a specific teaching degree but as we both have said above as long as they have the ability it should not matter. glendower2909

10:21pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do Bob49

10:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.
I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary. O'Reilly

10:29pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tricitytiara says...

Bournemouth need more schools. The number of children has increased dramatically since 2005. Not one person on here has mentioned the council. It's their fault this school is moving out of town where it's needed most. Write to them, the Council allowed dorset house to be refurbished and they will not extend the lease to allow a transfer more locally. No they don't want free thinkers in Bournemouth, they want sheeple....
Bournemouth need more schools. The number of children has increased dramatically since 2005. Not one person on here has mentioned the council. It's their fault this school is moving out of town where it's needed most. Write to them, the Council allowed dorset house to be refurbished and they will not extend the lease to allow a transfer more locally. No they don't want free thinkers in Bournemouth, they want sheeple.... tricitytiara

10:34pm Wed 8 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

Bob49 wrote:
ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
Lol. It's been emotional good night
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do[/p][/quote]Lol. It's been emotional good night glendower2909

10:44pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Do pop by sometime

i'm sure we will all be grateful for you pointing out those claims I am supposed to posted

or perhaps you just made them up

lets hope then that your involvement with this failure is not as the person dealing with the contracts, as I should hate for what's left of these poor little mites to have to move yet again

the Pier Theatre isn't too busy this time of year and it has an outdoor swimming pool ........... and most importantly it'll be cheap
Do pop by sometime i'm sure we will all be grateful for you pointing out those claims I am supposed to posted or perhaps you just made them up lets hope then that your involvement with this failure is not as the person dealing with the contracts, as I should hate for what's left of these poor little mites to have to move yet again the Pier Theatre isn't too busy this time of year and it has an outdoor swimming pool ........... and most importantly it'll be cheap Bob49

9:13am Thu 9 Jan 14

SophieRJ says...

If the school had stuck with the original plans for student numbers (which were proven to be more than financially viable) instead of doubling them, there would have been town centre locations able to accommodate...
If the school had stuck with the original plans for student numbers (which were proven to be more than financially viable) instead of doubling them, there would have been town centre locations able to accommodate... SophieRJ

9:14am Thu 9 Jan 14

SophieRJ says...

Bob49 wrote:
Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children.

As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?
Parkfield employs QUALIFIED Montessori teachers...
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children. As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?[/p][/quote]Parkfield employs QUALIFIED Montessori teachers... SophieRJ

9:35am Thu 9 Jan 14

John T says...

whataboutthat wrote:
PML114 wrote:
I am sorry
Environs, the surrounding area or district.
To simplify the funding discussion.
A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole
A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it.
The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school.
I am not sure what "management speak" is?
A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it."
Oh PML114 you're such a pendant...!
Thereby hangs a tale!
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: I am sorry Environs, the surrounding area or district. To simplify the funding discussion. A need is agreed with the Dept. for Education for an area, in this case Bournemouth and Poole A school is agreed and start up funding is agreed. This funding although devolved (given out) centrally is removed (taken away)from the local authority that initially (first) had the school imposed upon it. The school then moves to a totally different authority. My contention ( point) is that neither the original premise (idea) for the school nor the premises (buildings.. but you lose the play on words!!) are the same and different parents are affected. In this case, parents who have neither asked for nor require this school. I am not sure what "management speak" is? A very famous president once said " there is no point in having an education if you cannot use it."[/p][/quote]Oh PML114 you're such a pendant...![/p][/quote]Thereby hangs a tale! John T

10:22am Thu 9 Jan 14

woby_tide says...

O'Reilly wrote:
I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.
It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.[/p][/quote]It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though woby_tide

10:44am Thu 9 Jan 14

Woodsey says...

My child goes to this school and I was present at the meeting last night. In true echo fashion this meeting has not been truly reported. They seem to have left out the part where positive comments got a standing ovation from 99% of the parents on a couple of occasions. They also will not report on the positives to have over 8 acres at your disposal to build a good school for our children’s future.
I believe in Parkield and I believe they have hit jackpot with the new site. Well done Parkfield.
My child goes to this school and I was present at the meeting last night. In true echo fashion this meeting has not been truly reported. They seem to have left out the part where positive comments got a standing ovation from 99% of the parents on a couple of occasions. They also will not report on the positives to have over 8 acres at your disposal to build a good school for our children’s future. I believe in Parkield and I believe they have hit jackpot with the new site. Well done Parkfield. Woodsey

10:49am Thu 9 Jan 14

PML114 says...

Thanks, I avoided that and I chose not to seek "clairification" presumably from the stars.
Glad to see that people are starting to see that this school is basically flawed and extorting money from our mainstream provider, the local authority. In this case not even the authority they started with
You may not like the local authority, but at least you have a democratically elected, locally accountable, experienced group of professionals to work with.

If the need is identified for Christchurch then so be it, but the idea transporting children from Bournemouth gives this school a very short shelf life. The current parents will be desperate to make this work, as will the current management of the school, but recruitment and retainment when the true costs of transport both fiscally and in children's life experience ( 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week on a bus, wasted time waiting around for the bus to arrive etc.) will falter. Parents will have to choose whether they can let their children stay for extracurricular activity as this will mean they miss the bus and need picking up. The purchasing power of a small school will mean that they are at the cheap end of the market for transport provision as the local authority will have contracted the better transport providers.
Someone needs to look at this debacle quickly, and recognise that it is destined for tears.
Thanks, I avoided that and I chose not to seek "clairification" presumably from the stars. Glad to see that people are starting to see that this school is basically flawed and extorting money from our mainstream provider, the local authority. In this case not even the authority they started with You may not like the local authority, but at least you have a democratically elected, locally accountable, experienced group of professionals to work with. If the need is identified for Christchurch then so be it, but the idea transporting children from Bournemouth gives this school a very short shelf life. The current parents will be desperate to make this work, as will the current management of the school, but recruitment and retainment when the true costs of transport both fiscally and in children's life experience ( 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week on a bus, wasted time waiting around for the bus to arrive etc.) will falter. Parents will have to choose whether they can let their children stay for extracurricular activity as this will mean they miss the bus and need picking up. The purchasing power of a small school will mean that they are at the cheap end of the market for transport provision as the local authority will have contracted the better transport providers. Someone needs to look at this debacle quickly, and recognise that it is destined for tears. PML114

11:38am Thu 9 Jan 14

woby_tide says...

PML114 wrote:
Thanks, I avoided that and I chose not to seek "clairification
" presumably from the stars.
Glad to see that people are starting to see that this school is basically flawed and extorting money from our mainstream provider, the local authority. In this case not even the authority they started with
You may not like the local authority, but at least you have a democratically elected, locally accountable, experienced group of professionals to work with.

If the need is identified for Christchurch then so be it, but the idea transporting children from Bournemouth gives this school a very short shelf life. The current parents will be desperate to make this work, as will the current management of the school, but recruitment and retainment when the true costs of transport both fiscally and in children's life experience ( 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week on a bus, wasted time waiting around for the bus to arrive etc.) will falter. Parents will have to choose whether they can let their children stay for extracurricular activity as this will mean they miss the bus and need picking up. The purchasing power of a small school will mean that they are at the cheap end of the market for transport provision as the local authority will have contracted the better transport providers.
Someone needs to look at this debacle quickly, and recognise that it is destined for tears.
If you read the Admissions policy it already is agreed with multiple LEAs to cater for the fact it had a large catchment area (and if it moves it will still have a large catchment area)
The Borough of Bournemouth,
The Borough of Poole,
Purbeck District Council,
East Dorset District Council

It also references involving Hampshire LEA due to the proximity. So the kids can come from any of these areas already
[quote][p][bold]PML114[/bold] wrote: Thanks, I avoided that and I chose not to seek "clairification " presumably from the stars. Glad to see that people are starting to see that this school is basically flawed and extorting money from our mainstream provider, the local authority. In this case not even the authority they started with You may not like the local authority, but at least you have a democratically elected, locally accountable, experienced group of professionals to work with. If the need is identified for Christchurch then so be it, but the idea transporting children from Bournemouth gives this school a very short shelf life. The current parents will be desperate to make this work, as will the current management of the school, but recruitment and retainment when the true costs of transport both fiscally and in children's life experience ( 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week on a bus, wasted time waiting around for the bus to arrive etc.) will falter. Parents will have to choose whether they can let their children stay for extracurricular activity as this will mean they miss the bus and need picking up. The purchasing power of a small school will mean that they are at the cheap end of the market for transport provision as the local authority will have contracted the better transport providers. Someone needs to look at this debacle quickly, and recognise that it is destined for tears.[/p][/quote]If you read the Admissions policy it already is agreed with multiple LEAs to cater for the fact it had a large catchment area (and if it moves it will still have a large catchment area) The Borough of Bournemouth, The Borough of Poole, Purbeck District Council, East Dorset District Council It also references involving Hampshire LEA due to the proximity. So the kids can come from any of these areas already woby_tide

12:15pm Thu 9 Jan 14

PML114 says...

Interestingly I have read the admissions policy.
The "agreement" with multiple authorities (2) and two district councils under the umbrella of Dorset LEA does not constitute effective liaison.
Given that the schools projected size relies upon complete transition of each year group for 13 years and that those parents within the old, inner catchment area would be now in an arbitrary outer catchment area, strengthens the argument that this school no longer fulfils the objectives set out in its submissions to the EFA

The school is now moving to its own outer catchment area and despite the scatter gun effect of the postcode table, BH23 does not fall within that initial consultation.

Travelling from the Purbecks to Hurn is difficult to justify, for the reasons I have already given and the logistics of a transport system devised to service the 79 postcodes given would be unsustainable by a large authority, let alone a small school.
This duck is lame and gradually declining into it's own lack of forethought and provision.
This is terrible for those parents who have been promised Nirvana and delivered chaos.
Interestingly I have read the admissions policy. The "agreement" with multiple authorities (2) and two district councils under the umbrella of Dorset LEA does not constitute effective liaison. Given that the schools projected size relies upon complete transition of each year group for 13 years and that those parents within the old, inner catchment area would be now in an arbitrary outer catchment area, strengthens the argument that this school no longer fulfils the objectives set out in its submissions to the EFA The school is now moving to its own outer catchment area and despite the scatter gun effect of the postcode table, BH23 does not fall within that initial consultation. Travelling from the Purbecks to Hurn is difficult to justify, for the reasons I have already given and the logistics of a transport system devised to service the 79 postcodes given would be unsustainable by a large authority, let alone a small school. This duck is lame and gradually declining into it's own lack of forethought and provision. This is terrible for those parents who have been promised Nirvana and delivered chaos. PML114

12:20pm Thu 9 Jan 14

The Liberal says...

It was bad enough when the original building wasn't ready in time, but this is turning into a complete farce now. But who can be held accountable?
It was bad enough when the original building wasn't ready in time, but this is turning into a complete farce now. But who can be held accountable? The Liberal

12:20pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Jim_Springbourne says...

woby_tide wrote:
O'Reilly wrote:
I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.
It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though
As a former inmate of the buildings in question up until 2011, I can confirm that the entrance to the car park is before the drop off area, so it's therefore not an issue.
[quote][p][bold]woby_tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.[/p][/quote]It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though[/p][/quote]As a former inmate of the buildings in question up until 2011, I can confirm that the entrance to the car park is before the drop off area, so it's therefore not an issue. Jim_Springbourne

12:59pm Thu 9 Jan 14

PML114 says...

Sorry, forgot to mention that I had read the 9th version of the school admissions policy, not a bad score for a school less than one year old.
Sorry, forgot to mention that I had read the 9th version of the school admissions policy, not a bad score for a school less than one year old. PML114

1:27pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Bafta1 says...

SophieRJ wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children.

As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?
Parkfield employs QUALIFIED Montessori teachers...
and plenty more with QTS
[quote][p][bold]SophieRJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Who said anything about teachers needing degrees ? However there should be some requirement that those teaching have some sort of qualification relevant to the ability to teach children. As to the silly comment about the teachers credentials a fair number of these schools have repeatedly stated that they are using unqualified teachers. Why should I check, or are you suggestion that these schools are lying ?[/p][/quote]Parkfield employs QUALIFIED Montessori teachers...[/p][/quote]and plenty more with QTS Bafta1

4:06pm Thu 9 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

woby_tide wrote:
O'Reilly wrote:
I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.
It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though
I stand corrected...thanks.
[quote][p][bold]woby_tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I was given to understand that Dorset House had asbestos problems that was why they closed it initially. The new site is on the industrial side of the airport.....so no airport charge necessary.[/p][/quote]It's not on the industrial side, it's right next to the terminal but before the entrance to the car parks. No doubt there will be more to come around how to avoid the £5 charge by dropping off in the school car park though[/p][/quote]I stand corrected...thanks. O'Reilly

5:38pm Thu 9 Jan 14

hello bournemouth says...

Looking at the bigger picture isnt Bournemouth generally failing with school places? And if something isnt done about the problem, the future is bound to get worse?

I have so many friends who either can afford to buy into a nice area and not worry about these problems and others who are not as fortunate and have to commute across Bournemouth for their kids school.

Very much like the antiquated road systems we all have to deal with daily... this is only going to get worse as the years roll on. The Echo seem to have managed to realise the roads are an issue now but they seem a bit wet behind the ears if they cant see the bigger picture here. I expect in 5 years, when the problem is blatantly obvious that there are no school places (and most of the other schools in the area have had their classrooms maxed out) that the Echo will start saying 'WE NEED MORE SCHOOLS!'

(or they will start on some UKIP type Daily Mail reporting about those not from these shores)

Printed press is going to the dogs, so the Echo have to start generating headlines like these to stay alive and keep their incompetent staff on the payroll. And headlines like this create hits and comments on their website... win win !

Wake Up Bournemouth Council.

Wake Up LEA.

Wake Up Bournemouth Echo.

NOW GO DO YOUR JOBS
Looking at the bigger picture isnt Bournemouth generally failing with school places? And if something isnt done about the problem, the future is bound to get worse? I have so many friends who either can afford to buy into a nice area and not worry about these problems and others who are not as fortunate and have to commute across Bournemouth for their kids school. Very much like the antiquated road systems we all have to deal with daily... this is only going to get worse as the years roll on. The Echo seem to have managed to realise the roads are an issue now but they seem a bit wet behind the ears if they cant see the bigger picture here. I expect in 5 years, when the problem is blatantly obvious that there are no school places (and most of the other schools in the area have had their classrooms maxed out) that the Echo will start saying 'WE NEED MORE SCHOOLS!' (or they will start on some UKIP type Daily Mail reporting about those not from these shores) Printed press is going to the dogs, so the Echo have to start generating headlines like these to stay alive and keep their incompetent staff on the payroll. And headlines like this create hits and comments on their website... win win ! Wake Up Bournemouth Council. Wake Up LEA. Wake Up Bournemouth Echo. NOW GO DO YOUR JOBS hello bournemouth

5:41pm Thu 9 Jan 14

level 51 says...

A school adjacent an expanding airport? not a very clever choice of location.
I saw the sales brochure for this site, and its riddled with asbestos that needs
attention.
A school adjacent an expanding airport? not a very clever choice of location. I saw the sales brochure for this site, and its riddled with asbestos that needs attention. level 51

5:50pm Thu 9 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.
There's a ready made empty school at Townsend. O'Reilly

6:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MrPitiful says...

glendower2909 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
Lol. It's been emotional good night
How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!!

He knows it all don't you know???

And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow.

Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise.

In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council...

Oh wait a minute....
[quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do[/p][/quote]Lol. It's been emotional good night[/p][/quote]How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!! He knows it all don't you know??? And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow. Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise. In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council... Oh wait a minute.... MrPitiful

6:20pm Thu 9 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

MrPitiful wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
Lol. It's been emotional good night
How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!!

He knows it all don't you know???

And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow.

Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise.

In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council...

Oh wait a minute....
Would you sooner have jeff williams,or richard grant ?.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do[/p][/quote]Lol. It's been emotional good night[/p][/quote]How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!! He knows it all don't you know??? And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow. Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise. In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council... Oh wait a minute....[/p][/quote]Would you sooner have jeff williams,or richard grant ?. pete woodley

6:27pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

MrPitiful wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
Lol. It's been emotional good night
How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!!

He knows it all don't you know???

And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow.

Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise.

In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council...

Oh wait a minute....
I think you are a bit harsh on bob6andhalf he is not alone in knowing it all, your comment can be applied to several regular commenters but it is all good entertainment and they must realise that we don't believe half what they say,dont they?
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do[/p][/quote]Lol. It's been emotional good night[/p][/quote]How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!! He knows it all don't you know??? And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow. Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise. In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council... Oh wait a minute....[/p][/quote]I think you are a bit harsh on bob6andhalf he is not alone in knowing it all, your comment can be applied to several regular commenters but it is all good entertainment and they must realise that we don't believe half what they say,dont they? nosuchluck54

6:35pm Thu 9 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

MrPitiful wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
ill ?

oh dear

and we are not in agreement

perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you

it might help


* qualified in basic English should do
Lol. It's been emotional good night
How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!!

He knows it all don't you know???

And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow.

Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise.

In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council...

Oh wait a minute....
That's why I bowed out gracefully. Noted several posts from good old Bob both past and present on a wide selection of topics and realised quite quickly that there is little point in attempting serious debate or reasoning. Lots of huff and puffing, a little bluster followed by the old faithful "I never said that" or "can't you read" and dare I say it little of any substance. But as you say nosuchluck great entertainment on a wet Wednesday night.
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: ill ? oh dear and we are not in agreement perhaps you could get someone* to re read my post for you it might help * qualified in basic English should do[/p][/quote]Lol. It's been emotional good night[/p][/quote]How very dare you even consider arguing with Mr oldBob94!! He knows it all don't you know??? And if you dare challenge his opinion he will huff and puff and if that doesn't work, the insults will surely follow. Apparently, he was right about the IMAX, Surf Reef, Bus station ( or lack of), V club/ anything to do with his old boss & chum Richard Carr, Dave Wells Housing, Bournemouth late-night economy, Wessex Way, the price of fish --ooh the list goes on for his expertise. In fact, it's a wonder he or any of his family aren't employed by the local council... Oh wait a minute....[/p][/quote]That's why I bowed out gracefully. Noted several posts from good old Bob both past and present on a wide selection of topics and realised quite quickly that there is little point in attempting serious debate or reasoning. Lots of huff and puffing, a little bluster followed by the old faithful "I never said that" or "can't you read" and dare I say it little of any substance. But as you say nosuchluck great entertainment on a wet Wednesday night. glendower2909

7:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Oh dear

I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two

Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post.

Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote

A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence.

Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen..

ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose
Oh dear I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post. Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence. Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen.. ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose Bob49

7:21pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MrPitiful says...

Bob49 wrote:
Oh dear

I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two

Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post.

Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote

A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence.

Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen..

ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose
No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Oh dear I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post. Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence. Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen.. ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose[/p][/quote]No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob? MrPitiful

7:21pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MrPitiful says...

Bob49 wrote:
Oh dear

I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two

Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post.

Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote

A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence.

Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen..

ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose
No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Oh dear I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post. Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence. Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen.. ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose[/p][/quote]No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob? MrPitiful

7:59pm Thu 9 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

MrPitiful wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Oh dear

I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two

Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post.

Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote

A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence.

Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen..

ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose
No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?
No hissy fit from me. Quite the contrary, fits of laughter yes.Not had so much fun in years (yes I know I should get out more but hey) You are a tonic, a bright beacon of amusement on these dark winter nights. Please don't change. X
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Oh dear I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post. Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence. Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen.. ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose[/p][/quote]No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?[/p][/quote]No hissy fit from me. Quite the contrary, fits of laughter yes.Not had so much fun in years (yes I know I should get out more but hey) You are a tonic, a bright beacon of amusement on these dark winter nights. Please don't change. X glendower2909

8:36pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Concernedmum2 says...

snowy123 wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote:
Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening?

I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children.
I agree with you. This school should never have been able to take children on until a permanent site was found, and kitted out accordingly. This will be the 3rd site in a year !
I also question the logic of parents who seem to be so concerned about the type of education and yet have signed their children up to a scheme which hasn't even got a proper school yet. Surely the most important things when deciding on a school are curriculum, environment and facilities ? How would you know if the school had a pleasant environment and good facilities for sports, technology etc if they have no building to assess. Sorry but that is a big gamble to take for your childs education. As another poster said. If your child "has what it takes" they will get on regardless and if not " alternative " education will make very little difference.
Actually, there are schools locally to us that don't already offer our teenage girls a good, wholesome education. My step daughter has recently moved to Parkfield from Avonbourne, where she was bullied and ignored by inadequate teachers. She is now happy and achieving at Parkfield regardless of the premises!! That to me speaks volumes to me!
[quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Why didn't they find a site for the school BEFORE originally opening? I'm not sure what kind of example they are setting the children.[/p][/quote]I agree with you. This school should never have been able to take children on until a permanent site was found, and kitted out accordingly. This will be the 3rd site in a year ! I also question the logic of parents who seem to be so concerned about the type of education and yet have signed their children up to a scheme which hasn't even got a proper school yet. Surely the most important things when deciding on a school are curriculum, environment and facilities ? How would you know if the school had a pleasant environment and good facilities for sports, technology etc if they have no building to assess. Sorry but that is a big gamble to take for your childs education. As another poster said. If your child "has what it takes" they will get on regardless and if not " alternative " education will make very little difference.[/p][/quote]Actually, there are schools locally to us that don't already offer our teenage girls a good, wholesome education. My step daughter has recently moved to Parkfield from Avonbourne, where she was bullied and ignored by inadequate teachers. She is now happy and achieving at Parkfield regardless of the premises!! That to me speaks volumes to me! Concernedmum2

8:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Concernedmum2 says...

O'Reilly wrote:
There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.
It's actually the Jewell academy now!
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.[/p][/quote]It's actually the Jewell academy now! Concernedmum2

9:57pm Thu 9 Jan 14

MrPitiful says...

glendower2909 wrote:
MrPitiful wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Oh dear

I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two

Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post.

Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote

A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence.

Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen..

ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose
No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?
No hissy fit from me. Quite the contrary, fits of laughter yes.Not had so much fun in years (yes I know I should get out more but hey) You are a tonic, a bright beacon of amusement on these dark winter nights. Please don't change. X
Seconded. These columns are like a village.
[quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Oh dear I appear to have hit a raw nerve or two Poor old pitiful and his constant rants that I was employed by Richard Carr. A lie. However if he has any proof then feel free to post. Much as with Glendower. Make silly claims about what I have supposedly said then throw a hissy fit and stomp off once asked to provide a quote A pattern perhaps, much as the apologists for this failure consistently avoid answering questions or providing any evidence. Both of you are welcome to provide evidence to back your lies - but I guess it will once again revert back to personal insults, which I suppose are at least a convenient smokescreen.. ps thanks for taking such an interest pitiful by diligently reading all of my posts, I doubt anyone else does - can't say that I've ever been that interested in any reciprocal behaviour .... but each to their own I suppose[/p][/quote]No denial on your council "connections" amongst all that waffle Bob?[/p][/quote]No hissy fit from me. Quite the contrary, fits of laughter yes.Not had so much fun in years (yes I know I should get out more but hey) You are a tonic, a bright beacon of amusement on these dark winter nights. Please don't change. X[/p][/quote]Seconded. These columns are like a village. MrPitiful

11:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

sammmymac says...

We the tax payers are footing the bill FOR ALL OF THIS! If they start offering free transport for children to get there, WE WILL BE footing the bill for that too. Many secondary school children in Bournemouth have to travel by bus and this is not funded. Why should they be treated differently?
Thus is scandalous and this school should have to publish its spending of taxpayers money, very little of which will be on teachers salaries I bet. Priorities are all over the place.
We the tax payers are footing the bill FOR ALL OF THIS! If they start offering free transport for children to get there, WE WILL BE footing the bill for that too. Many secondary school children in Bournemouth have to travel by bus and this is not funded. Why should they be treated differently? Thus is scandalous and this school should have to publish its spending of taxpayers money, very little of which will be on teachers salaries I bet. Priorities are all over the place. sammmymac

1:02pm Fri 10 Jan 14

freedom for pokesdown says...

If things are really as bad as they seem then I think the parents and pupils deserve some answers - a public inquiry if necessary
If things are really as bad as they seem then I think the parents and pupils deserve some answers - a public inquiry if necessary freedom for pokesdown

2:52pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Mike R-B says...

whataboutthat wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Dorset Outsider wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey"
Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.
Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.
But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience.
Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best.
Quite agree Snowy. My daughter is at Avonbourne and doing very well. The facilities in that school are unbelievable. Quite why any uptight parent feels they stand a better chance at some gimcrack ourtfit like Parkfield is beyond me. Seriously, education in an office block then at some run down post war khazi saturated in aviation fuel or constantly buzzed by irritating little Cessnas. You couldn't make it up. Come on 4x4 mums who believe their child is 'oh so special' and needs 'better' get real - you're being taken for a ride. Ask your husbands for their honest opinion about all this free school nonsense - they just go along with you don't they?
Minimal buzzing Cessnas but kids will certainly be distracted by lectures being drowned out with the roar of jet airliners coming & going.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "I went to a school once that had no playing fields, children were on hard ground at break times. PE and sports day required,a bus journey" Yeah I went to school with outside bogs that's no reason why youngsters today should have to put up with crap facilities. This is the 21st century and as a fifty soemjthing I am fed up with that old we never had this or that in my day malarkey. This country is plenty rich enough to finance an education system - why JP Morgan's fine just yesterday would sort out the education system for a generation. Pip pip.[/p][/quote]Not everyone talking about the past are in their 50's. The school still operates that way. Im not saying that's the way it needs to be, it was just an answer to the question of facilities.[/p][/quote]But what parent in their right mind would choose a school with sub-standard facilities ? Surely the whole point of the Free School is to give a superior experience. Have you visited any of the local secondary schools recently ? Most have been turned into academies and have had pots of money thrown at them. I visited 2 which I knew from my youth, recently, and was amazed at the transformation of them both. Surely if the funds allow, all opportunities to make the best environment possible should be grabbed with both hands. The free school seems to be making the best of a bad job to me not striving to be the best.[/p][/quote]Quite agree Snowy. My daughter is at Avonbourne and doing very well. The facilities in that school are unbelievable. Quite why any uptight parent feels they stand a better chance at some gimcrack ourtfit like Parkfield is beyond me. Seriously, education in an office block then at some run down post war khazi saturated in aviation fuel or constantly buzzed by irritating little Cessnas. You couldn't make it up. Come on 4x4 mums who believe their child is 'oh so special' and needs 'better' get real - you're being taken for a ride. Ask your husbands for their honest opinion about all this free school nonsense - they just go along with you don't they?[/p][/quote]Minimal buzzing Cessnas but kids will certainly be distracted by lectures being drowned out with the roar of jet airliners coming & going. Mike R-B

3:12pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Mike R-B says...

muscliffman wrote:
Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better!
"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better![/p][/quote]"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though. Mike R-B

10:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

Concernedmum2 wrote:
O'Reilly wrote:
There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.
It's actually the Jewell academy now!
Goodness gracious......sounds very posh. My eldest daughter went there when it was Townsend Primary School, I was given to understand that it had closed to pupils some time back. Oh well...you live and learn.
[quote][p][bold]Concernedmum2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.[/p][/quote]It's actually the Jewell academy now![/p][/quote]Goodness gracious......sounds very posh. My eldest daughter went there when it was Townsend Primary School, I was given to understand that it had closed to pupils some time back. Oh well...you live and learn. O'Reilly

7:58am Sat 11 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

Mike R-B wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better!
"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.
When I went to school we were promised an airship was going to be moored alongside the school in Kings Park but the Bournemouth never came to this town. The mooring stakes were inserted in the ground but the airship never arrived, Lord Ventry's project which only flew 11 times was finally scrapped
[quote][p][bold]Mike R-B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better![/p][/quote]"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.[/p][/quote]When I went to school we were promised an airship was going to be moored alongside the school in Kings Park but the Bournemouth never came to this town. The mooring stakes were inserted in the ground but the airship never arrived, Lord Ventry's project which only flew 11 times was finally scrapped Lord Spring

5:06pm Sat 11 Jan 14

carrrob says...

If you dont like it send your kid to a proper school all sounds like a disorganised shambles !
Not to worry the smell of aviation fuel and noise from the planes should help the children concerntrate on there work.
If you dont like it send your kid to a proper school all sounds like a disorganised shambles ! Not to worry the smell of aviation fuel and noise from the planes should help the children concerntrate on there work. carrrob

5:25pm Sat 11 Jan 14

level 51 says...

name change required to " Park the aircraft in our field" school
name change required to " Park the aircraft in our field" school level 51

1:36am Mon 13 Jan 14

portia6 says...

Whatever happened to the Comprehensive system, looks like its Greyfriars
Towers and gymslips, not forgetting Billy Bunter. Jolly hockey sticks and a
game of tennis before tea what?
Whatever happened to the Comprehensive system, looks like its Greyfriars Towers and gymslips, not forgetting Billy Bunter. Jolly hockey sticks and a game of tennis before tea what? portia6

10:56am Mon 13 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Mike R-B wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better!
"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.
When I went to school we were promised an airship was going to be moored alongside the school in Kings Park but the Bournemouth never came to this town. The mooring stakes were inserted in the ground but the airship never arrived, Lord Ventry's project which only flew 11 times was finally scrapped
It actually crashed at R.A.F. Cardington.Hit the gym.It was kept in one of the giant hangers,and i saw it often when doing my training there,With it was a miniature Royal Blue coach.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike R-B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better![/p][/quote]"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.[/p][/quote]When I went to school we were promised an airship was going to be moored alongside the school in Kings Park but the Bournemouth never came to this town. The mooring stakes were inserted in the ground but the airship never arrived, Lord Ventry's project which only flew 11 times was finally scrapped[/p][/quote]It actually crashed at R.A.F. Cardington.Hit the gym.It was kept in one of the giant hangers,and i saw it often when doing my training there,With it was a miniature Royal Blue coach. pete woodley

11:02am Mon 13 Jan 14

skydriver says...

All this has come about because of the Goon Gove, he should be taken out of high office and put in a cupboard . He opens his mouth too often and gets it wrong. Come the next election there will be many that loose their seats, I feel sure he will be just one of them.
All this has come about because of the Goon Gove, he should be taken out of high office and put in a cupboard . He opens his mouth too often and gets it wrong. Come the next election there will be many that loose their seats, I feel sure he will be just one of them. skydriver

1:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Molecatcher says...

Mike R-B wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better!
"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.
How? They'll be on their summer holidays won't they/?
[quote][p][bold]Mike R-B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, this free School project is going well isn't it? The poor little kids deserve a lot better![/p][/quote]"The poor little kids" and parents will have a free ring side seat for the Air Festival take off and landings though.[/p][/quote]How? They'll be on their summer holidays won't they/? Molecatcher

7:21am Wed 15 Jan 14

yasinac says...

O'Reilly wrote:
There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.
I think you'll find that the school has re-opened under a different name for a small amount of reception age and year 1 children, with an intention to increase its intake this year.
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: There's a ready made empty school at Townsend.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that the school has re-opened under a different name for a small amount of reception age and year 1 children, with an intention to increase its intake this year. yasinac

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