UPDATED: Drivers stuck in traffic for up to two hours at Bournemouth Hospital

Bournemouth Echo: Drivers stuck in traffic for up to two hours at Bournemouth Hospital Drivers stuck in traffic for up to two hours at Bournemouth Hospital

HUNDREDS of drivers have been stuck in severe traffic jams around Bournemouth’s Castle Lane.

Some reported being stuck in the car park at Royal Bournemouth Hospital for hours as they waited to get onto the main route.

Temporary traffic lights at Barrack Road in Christchurch are thought to have been the cause of the problem earlier. They have since been removed but the backlog of traffic remained, with some drivers queuing on yellow road markings at the hospital junction.

Mike Durham, a voluntary driver from West Moors giving a lift to an elderly patient, said at 6.15pm that he had been stuck in the hospital car park since 3.45pm.

“All the cars are just sitting in the queue. Nothing’s moving,” he said.

“Nobody wants to take ownership of the fact that Castle Lane is blocked. Somebody needs to take control and sort it out.”

Another driver reported moving 100 yards in 20 minutes.

Malcolm Newton, who was bringing his mother-in-law home from a hospital appointment, had moved around 50 yards in two-and-a-half hours when he spoke to the Daily Echo. He said: “It’s been incredibly poorly managed.”

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5:48pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Huey says...

Glad I walk to work and leave the car at home, even in this weather.
Glad I walk to work and leave the car at home, even in this weather. Huey

5:51pm Tue 7 Jan 14

LJT1966 says...

Stoney lane still shut, Christchurch High street shut yet again. Fairmile Road a car park. It's a complete nightmare getting anywhere the last two days.
Stoney lane still shut, Christchurch High street shut yet again. Fairmile Road a car park. It's a complete nightmare getting anywhere the last two days. LJT1966

6:00pm Tue 7 Jan 14

GAHmusic says...

If the police came out and sorted these traffic messes they would probably have less accidents to deal with as a result. Let's be honest everytime the traffic snarls up there is always related accidents
If the police came out and sorted these traffic messes they would probably have less accidents to deal with as a result. Let's be honest everytime the traffic snarls up there is always related accidents GAHmusic

6:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

snowy123 says...

Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too. snowy123

6:08pm Tue 7 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

Please don't get the police involved

unless you want to be there all night
Please don't get the police involved unless you want to be there all night nickynoodah

6:14pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Speak up Brown says...

Why do so many people think it's the responsibility of the Police to sort it out?

You weren't stuck in traffic, you ARE the traffic.
Why do so many people think it's the responsibility of the Police to sort it out? You weren't stuck in traffic, you ARE the traffic. Speak up Brown

6:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish. FNS-man

6:19pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Tonytolle says...

And the more people that live here ,the worse it will get.
And the more people that live here ,the worse it will get. Tonytolle

6:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

drJones says...

FNS-man wrote:
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.[/p][/quote]lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered drJones

6:35pm Tue 7 Jan 14

snowy123 says...

FNS-man wrote:
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
I'm assuming you are being ironic ? Surely nurses, doctors etc, are doing a fairly useful job or perhaps you are so super fit and healthy you will never need their services. A great number of people work too far away to be able to walk or cycle and have no choice but to drive.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.[/p][/quote]I'm assuming you are being ironic ? Surely nurses, doctors etc, are doing a fairly useful job or perhaps you are so super fit and healthy you will never need their services. A great number of people work too far away to be able to walk or cycle and have no choice but to drive. snowy123

6:39pm Tue 7 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
[quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out. muscliffman

6:45pm Tue 7 Jan 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Police helicopter now up, possibly been an accident to add to the fun.

Slightly off topic but they need to look at access to that entire site. One entrance and exit onto Castle Lane is not good. Not sure how they can improve though as it would be chaos trying to get a lane onto the dual carriageway.
Police helicopter now up, possibly been an accident to add to the fun. Slightly off topic but they need to look at access to that entire site. One entrance and exit onto Castle Lane is not good. Not sure how they can improve though as it would be chaos trying to get a lane onto the dual carriageway. bobthedestroyer

7:22pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed. Hessenford

7:29pm Tue 7 Jan 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

High time an access slip to the Wessex way was built for this hospital, castle lane will only get bigger if the proposed ASDA at Barrack Road is built.
High time an access slip to the Wessex way was built for this hospital, castle lane will only get bigger if the proposed ASDA at Barrack Road is built. itsneverblackorwhite

7:45pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Turtlebay says...

drJones wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered
That's interesting Dr Jones, I wasn't aware people did their food shopping in Bournemouth Hospital, I thought it was there to treat sick and injured folks.

That explains the poor report it got just before Christmas!

No buy one, get one free in Accident and Emergency! Explains everything.
[quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.[/p][/quote]lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered[/p][/quote]That's interesting Dr Jones, I wasn't aware people did their food shopping in Bournemouth Hospital, I thought it was there to treat sick and injured folks. That explains the poor report it got just before Christmas! No buy one, get one free in Accident and Emergency! Explains everything. Turtlebay

7:47pm Tue 7 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Hessenford wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.
Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.[/p][/quote]Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today. muscliffman

7:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

Traffic was bad in a lot of areas this evening, took me nearly an hour to drive round the airport perimeter road. I don't understand the 'thumbs down' score for comments relating to cycling/walking instead of driving. Most people within 4 miles if their workplace could cycle, which is a surprising number in the Bournemouth area. It would cut traffic at peak times, also it means locals moaning about the traffic on their daily drive to work wont be in it. A genuine suggestion which would help ease congestion. They never said everyone could cycle or walk as suggested by the sarcastic replies.
Traffic was bad in a lot of areas this evening, took me nearly an hour to drive round the airport perimeter road. I don't understand the 'thumbs down' score for comments relating to cycling/walking instead of driving. Most people within 4 miles if their workplace could cycle, which is a surprising number in the Bournemouth area. It would cut traffic at peak times, also it means locals moaning about the traffic on their daily drive to work wont be in it. A genuine suggestion which would help ease congestion. They never said everyone could cycle or walk as suggested by the sarcastic replies. Dorset Outsider

8:50pm Tue 7 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

Get the WRVS out. They will sort it with a cuppa.
Get the WRVS out. They will sort it with a cuppa. BIGTONE

8:50pm Tue 7 Jan 14

ForbiddenFruit says...

muscliffman wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.
Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today.
Apart from the fact that only slightly north of Castle Lane there is a river? And floodplain. Most of which is currently underwater. And was for pretty much the whole of 'summer' 2012. Concreting over it would seem like a fantastic idea!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.[/p][/quote]Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today.[/p][/quote]Apart from the fact that only slightly north of Castle Lane there is a river? And floodplain. Most of which is currently underwater. And was for pretty much the whole of 'summer' 2012. Concreting over it would seem like a fantastic idea! ForbiddenFruit

9:08pm Tue 7 Jan 14

drJones says...

Turtlebay wrote:
drJones wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered
That's interesting Dr Jones, I wasn't aware people did their food shopping in Bournemouth Hospital, I thought it was there to treat sick and injured folks.

That explains the poor report it got just before Christmas!

No buy one, get one free in Accident and Emergency! Explains everything.
Hmm, your comment doesn't really make sense unless your incredibly stupid. Let me clarify, the original comment said "Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work " I think its pretty safe to suggest he didn't mean people that work at the hospital should walk or cycle because the majority of traffic would have presumably been patients leaving the hospital? And I think its pretty certain if you are going to a hospital their is a high chance you're unwell or require medical attention and walking or cycling isn't an option. So if you agree with this, I would suggest the original comment he made was referring to "work" as in general not specifically the workers at Poole hospital. Muppet.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.[/p][/quote]lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered[/p][/quote]That's interesting Dr Jones, I wasn't aware people did their food shopping in Bournemouth Hospital, I thought it was there to treat sick and injured folks. That explains the poor report it got just before Christmas! No buy one, get one free in Accident and Emergency! Explains everything.[/p][/quote]Hmm, your comment doesn't really make sense unless your incredibly stupid. Let me clarify, the original comment said "Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work " I think its pretty safe to suggest he didn't mean people that work at the hospital should walk or cycle because the majority of traffic would have presumably been patients leaving the hospital? And I think its pretty certain if you are going to a hospital their is a high chance you're unwell or require medical attention and walking or cycling isn't an option. So if you agree with this, I would suggest the original comment he made was referring to "work" as in general not specifically the workers at Poole hospital. Muppet. drJones

9:30pm Tue 7 Jan 14

60plus says...

If you live in Wimborne you can't walk to Bournemouth hospital with crutches,so please think before you engage mouth.
If you live in Wimborne you can't walk to Bournemouth hospital with crutches,so please think before you engage mouth. 60plus

9:40pm Tue 7 Jan 14

O'Reilly says...

snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Yep, I read that also. It doesn't rain but it pours as the saying goes......
[quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Yep, I read that also. It doesn't rain but it pours as the saying goes...... O'Reilly

9:41pm Tue 7 Jan 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

A nice clover leaf junction midway between Cooper Dean and Blackwater to feed the hospital and Castle Point is what's needed. Should really keep Castle lane moving because the forests of traffic lights on Castle lane outside these two establishments would no longer be necessary.
A nice clover leaf junction midway between Cooper Dean and Blackwater to feed the hospital and Castle Point is what's needed. Should really keep Castle lane moving because the forests of traffic lights on Castle lane outside these two establishments would no longer be necessary. The-Bleeding-Obvious

9:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Miss Appropriate says...

As usual it only takes a few things to happen i.e. weather, roadworks etc to make the whole area of Iford, Castle Lane,Barrack Road and beyond to snarl up. Today some plonker at the road works department decided to put traffic lights on Barrack Road when Christchurch High Street is closed off for gas work, Stony lane is closed because of flooding along with Avon Causeway and other roads. Traffic was using Fairmile road to avoid Barrack Road back down to Cooper Dean roundabout which in turn caused traffic congestion leading from Cooper Dean along Castle lane to Iford Roundabout and Barrack Road.Unfortunately they decided to reduce the exit from the hospital to one lane who then couldn't get out because of the congestion. I also have to add that drivers themselves don't help the situation with their impatience, they can see the traffic ahead the other side of the traffic lights is not moving but because the lights are green cross the junction, lights go red and they are sat in the middle of the road junction blocking anyone coming out of another junction, hence the hospital problem tonight. I had an accident today at Stony Lane roundabout, someone drove into the back of me, drivers were so impatient that they were driving on the grass around us to get by and beeping their horns. This is the first accident I have had in 34 yrs of driving and I was quite shaken which was not helped by drivers speeding past blaring their horns. We all have places to be but considering the weather conditions and flooded roads, by leaving a bit earlier for your journey perhaps you wouldn't be so selfish on the roads because you are in a rush!!
As usual it only takes a few things to happen i.e. weather, roadworks etc to make the whole area of Iford, Castle Lane,Barrack Road and beyond to snarl up. Today some plonker at the road works department decided to put traffic lights on Barrack Road when Christchurch High Street is closed off for gas work, Stony lane is closed because of flooding along with Avon Causeway and other roads. Traffic was using Fairmile road to avoid Barrack Road back down to Cooper Dean roundabout which in turn caused traffic congestion leading from Cooper Dean along Castle lane to Iford Roundabout and Barrack Road.Unfortunately they decided to reduce the exit from the hospital to one lane who then couldn't get out because of the congestion. I also have to add that drivers themselves don't help the situation with their impatience, they can see the traffic ahead the other side of the traffic lights is not moving but because the lights are green cross the junction, lights go red and they are sat in the middle of the road junction blocking anyone coming out of another junction, hence the hospital problem tonight. I had an accident today at Stony Lane roundabout, someone drove into the back of me, drivers were so impatient that they were driving on the grass around us to get by and beeping their horns. This is the first accident I have had in 34 yrs of driving and I was quite shaken which was not helped by drivers speeding past blaring their horns. We all have places to be but considering the weather conditions and flooded roads, by leaving a bit earlier for your journey perhaps you wouldn't be so selfish on the roads because you are in a rush!! Miss Appropriate

9:45pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mtraynor says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Police helicopter now up, possibly been an accident to add to the fun.

Slightly off topic but they need to look at access to that entire site. One entrance and exit onto Castle Lane is not good. Not sure how they can improve though as it would be chaos trying to get a lane onto the dual carriageway.
I travel there everyday to take my son to nursery which is behind the hospital. I know too well the hideousness of being stuck for hours behind the hospital. So one way in one way out....why? When you have a hospital, law courts, Rias, The Village....who thought that one road would suffice? There is a road that runs behind Tesco and behind the courts, why can't the council look into making that road join so you can go out another way. Once the building has finished behind the hospital, make it so you can drive all the way round creating another way out or have an exit slip road onto the slip road by cooper dean....I hope that someone with common sense sorts out this mess as it is only going to get worse :(
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: Police helicopter now up, possibly been an accident to add to the fun. Slightly off topic but they need to look at access to that entire site. One entrance and exit onto Castle Lane is not good. Not sure how they can improve though as it would be chaos trying to get a lane onto the dual carriageway.[/p][/quote]I travel there everyday to take my son to nursery which is behind the hospital. I know too well the hideousness of being stuck for hours behind the hospital. So one way in one way out....why? When you have a hospital, law courts, Rias, The Village....who thought that one road would suffice? There is a road that runs behind Tesco and behind the courts, why can't the council look into making that road join so you can go out another way. Once the building has finished behind the hospital, make it so you can drive all the way round creating another way out or have an exit slip road onto the slip road by cooper dean....I hope that someone with common sense sorts out this mess as it is only going to get worse :( mtraynor

9:54pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Crabby apple says...

I work at Bournemouth Hospital and live in Wimborne, it took me nearly 3 hours to leave the hospital site this evening, not what you need after a day at work. There must be a better solution....
I work at Bournemouth Hospital and live in Wimborne, it took me nearly 3 hours to leave the hospital site this evening, not what you need after a day at work. There must be a better solution.... Crabby apple

10:32pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mjspoole says...

i drive in and out of RBGH and the traffic situation has got to a hopless situation the bus hub has taken a number of parking spaces away also a large building project near the eye unit has taken ? upto a hundred parking spaces away so patient parking is greatly reduced patients are parking where they not alowed ambulance and taxis stuggle to pick up and drop of patients disabled patients have to struggle to get to the derwent clinic renal patients have difficulties geting to there clinics the coverd walkway is out of bounds to patients and most staff who cares not RBGH managment
i drive in and out of RBGH and the traffic situation has got to a hopless situation the bus hub has taken a number of parking spaces away also a large building project near the eye unit has taken ? upto a hundred parking spaces away so patient parking is greatly reduced patients are parking where they not alowed ambulance and taxis stuggle to pick up and drop of patients disabled patients have to struggle to get to the derwent clinic renal patients have difficulties geting to there clinics the coverd walkway is out of bounds to patients and most staff who cares not RBGH managment mjspoole

10:35pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Hopping Mad Lady says...

I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road!
I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road! Hopping Mad Lady

10:40pm Tue 7 Jan 14

rozmister says...

I'm not surprised by this story in the slightest. I had a scan at Bournemouth Hospital a few months back and despite arriving on Castle Lane nearly 30 minutes early I was 45 minutes late for my appointment and never even managed to park my car at the hospital! I crawled down Castle Lane and then came to a standstill in the carpark which was gridlocked. It took about an hour and a half to crawl in a loop into the carpark (with no areas with spaces open) and then back out and my friend had to sit in the car while I went in for my appointment and then we crawled back along Castle Lane out. The whole episode took over 2 1/2 hours in total without even managing to get a space or travel more than a mile round trip.

It was almost laughable if it wasn't so ridiculous but I did think at the time how terrible the traffic system was in that area. It wouldn't be so funny if you were going to visit a very poorly relative or if you were seriously unwell and were going to miss an important appointment such as chemo.

As for the suggestion that all the nurses and doctors should cycle or walk to work - what about the many nurses and doctors working extremely long shifts or odd working hours? They may be too tired to walk home or may not feel safe in the dark alone. For the job they do I don't think it's too much or them to be allowed the luxury of driving to and from work each day.
I'm not surprised by this story in the slightest. I had a scan at Bournemouth Hospital a few months back and despite arriving on Castle Lane nearly 30 minutes early I was 45 minutes late for my appointment and never even managed to park my car at the hospital! I crawled down Castle Lane and then came to a standstill in the carpark which was gridlocked. It took about an hour and a half to crawl in a loop into the carpark (with no areas with spaces open) and then back out and my friend had to sit in the car while I went in for my appointment and then we crawled back along Castle Lane out. The whole episode took over 2 1/2 hours in total without even managing to get a space or travel more than a mile round trip. It was almost laughable if it wasn't so ridiculous but I did think at the time how terrible the traffic system was in that area. It wouldn't be so funny if you were going to visit a very poorly relative or if you were seriously unwell and were going to miss an important appointment such as chemo. As for the suggestion that all the nurses and doctors should cycle or walk to work - what about the many nurses and doctors working extremely long shifts or odd working hours? They may be too tired to walk home or may not feel safe in the dark alone. For the job they do I don't think it's too much or them to be allowed the luxury of driving to and from work each day. rozmister

10:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Hopping Mad Lady wrote:
I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road!
The majority of the mess is down to hospital office workers all leaving at the same time, perhaps its about time they had staggered start and finish times to reduce congestion.
[quote][p][bold]Hopping Mad Lady[/bold] wrote: I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road![/p][/quote]The majority of the mess is down to hospital office workers all leaving at the same time, perhaps its about time they had staggered start and finish times to reduce congestion. Hessenford

10:47pm Tue 7 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. FNS-man

11:02pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

FNS-man wrote:
I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park. Dorset Outsider

11:19pm Tue 7 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

ForbiddenFruit wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.
Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today.
Apart from the fact that only slightly north of Castle Lane there is a river? And floodplain. Most of which is currently underwater. And was for pretty much the whole of 'summer' 2012. Concreting over it would seem like a fantastic idea!
I believe there is (or was pre-Townsend/Musclif
f housing etc) sufficient room for such a Castle Lane relief road between the river and Castle Lane - dusty outline plans illustrating it's intended route/s doubtless exist in the archives somewhere, I seem to recall that some of these were even published for public viewing way back in the 60/70's.

Also bear in mind this Castle Lane relief road idea was being seriously considered around the same time as Wessex Way was actually being built across central Bournemouth - and much of that roadway inside the Borough is substantially raised above ground level on pillars. So there was no unresolvable issue with flood water and no need to concrete over any meaningful amount of the flood plain. Stilt/pillar supported raised highway (even for no apparent reason) was in fact very fashionable during this UK 'motorway' concrete construction heyday period and would doubtless have been part of the build employed here.

So I am fairly satisfied that this relief road could have been fitted in and built flood risk free - and indeed it would probably have worked very well. Hindsight solves so much!
[quote][p][bold]ForbiddenFruit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]An exit onto the spur road from the hospital and a bypass to cut out Iford and Barrack Road, that;s whats needed.[/p][/quote]Agreed, this actually raises the ghost of a complete parallel relief road running to the north of Castle Lane and Barrack Road behind where the Hospital and Catlepoint are now. A fairly easily accomplished construction when it was first talked about in the 1960's and one which would have prevented most of the traffic woes In and around 'old' Castle Lane today.[/p][/quote]Apart from the fact that only slightly north of Castle Lane there is a river? And floodplain. Most of which is currently underwater. And was for pretty much the whole of 'summer' 2012. Concreting over it would seem like a fantastic idea![/p][/quote]I believe there is (or was pre-Townsend/Musclif f housing etc) sufficient room for such a Castle Lane relief road between the river and Castle Lane - dusty outline plans illustrating it's intended route/s doubtless exist in the archives somewhere, I seem to recall that some of these were even published for public viewing way back in the 60/70's. Also bear in mind this Castle Lane relief road idea was being seriously considered around the same time as Wessex Way was actually being built across central Bournemouth - and much of that roadway inside the Borough is substantially raised above ground level on pillars. So there was no unresolvable issue with flood water and no need to concrete over any meaningful amount of the flood plain. Stilt/pillar supported raised highway (even for no apparent reason) was in fact very fashionable during this UK 'motorway' concrete construction heyday period and would doubtless have been part of the build employed here. So I am fairly satisfied that this relief road could have been fitted in and built flood risk free - and indeed it would probably have worked very well. Hindsight solves so much! muscliffman

11:19pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights.
The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights. Yankee1

11:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

FNS-man wrote:
I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Well aren't you a hero.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Well aren't you a hero. Hessenford

12:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

ragj195 says...

muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there.

So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there. So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance. ragj195

12:38am Wed 8 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

"Nobody wants to take ownership of the fact that Castle Lane is blocked. "

not sure how you could own something that is intangible

but it might have helped if some authority was prepared to accept responsibility for the chaos and sort it out
"Nobody wants to take ownership of the fact that Castle Lane is blocked. " not sure how you could own something that is intangible but it might have helped if some authority was prepared to accept responsibility for the chaos and sort it out Bob49

5:03am Wed 8 Jan 14

misplacedspaniard says...

Everyone should have booked into the village hotel then billed the council for being such retards.
Everyone should have booked into the village hotel then billed the council for being such retards. misplacedspaniard

8:25am Wed 8 Jan 14

MMM444 says...

Just been transfered to Dorset County Hosp Dorchester, live in Broadstone, can get there quicker than it take's to get through that traffic snarled up area they call The Cooper Dean, Castle lane etc, absolute joke of a place to go through to get to Bourne Hosp, God help anyone trying to get to A&E, your be dead before you get there
Just been transfered to Dorset County Hosp Dorchester, live in Broadstone, can get there quicker than it take's to get through that traffic snarled up area they call The Cooper Dean, Castle lane etc, absolute joke of a place to go through to get to Bourne Hosp, God help anyone trying to get to A&E, your be dead before you get there MMM444

9:35am Wed 8 Jan 14

vcover65 says...

I was trapped for a staggering 3 hours 12 minutes!
I was trapped for a staggering 3 hours 12 minutes! vcover65

10:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Yankee1 wrote:
The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights.
It became a disaster when the permission was given to move the courts down there, build a massive hotel and Rias, having this lot plus hospital staff leaving at the same time onto one set of traffic lights is completely ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights.[/p][/quote]It became a disaster when the permission was given to move the courts down there, build a massive hotel and Rias, having this lot plus hospital staff leaving at the same time onto one set of traffic lights is completely ridiculous. Hessenford

10:22am Wed 8 Jan 14

ragj195 says...

Yankee1 wrote:
The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights.
"Disaster" really? Unless there's an incident it's pretty smooth traffic and even during rush hour it's a few minutes to get through. Do you know why they built the roundabout? Did you ever try entering the roundabout from Littledowne or the RBH? It was gridlock hence why they needed lights to stop the cars traveling along Castle Lane so other traffic could exit. Look at traffic management from all angles not just how it impacts the your journey.
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: The situation became a disaster when the former Littledown roundabout was replaced with traffic lights.[/p][/quote]"Disaster" really? Unless there's an incident it's pretty smooth traffic and even during rush hour it's a few minutes to get through. Do you know why they built the roundabout? Did you ever try entering the roundabout from Littledowne or the RBH? It was gridlock hence why they needed lights to stop the cars traveling along Castle Lane so other traffic could exit. Look at traffic management from all angles not just how it impacts the your journey. ragj195

11:07am Wed 8 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

ragj195 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there.

So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance.
So in other words multiple traffic lanes leading up to traffic lights, but then disappearing immediately after them, could be considered as very short stay car parks!

But these are not really addressing the main problem are they?
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there. So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance.[/p][/quote]So in other words multiple traffic lanes leading up to traffic lights, but then disappearing immediately after them, could be considered as very short stay car parks! But these are not really addressing the main problem are they? muscliffman

11:11am Wed 8 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

GAHmusic wrote:
If the police came out and sorted these traffic messes they would probably have less accidents to deal with as a result. Let's be honest everytime the traffic snarls up there is always related accidents
They won't bother, as the traffic isn't going fast enough to catch anyone speeding.
[quote][p][bold]GAHmusic[/bold] wrote: If the police came out and sorted these traffic messes they would probably have less accidents to deal with as a result. Let's be honest everytime the traffic snarls up there is always related accidents[/p][/quote]They won't bother, as the traffic isn't going fast enough to catch anyone speeding. speedy231278

11:13am Wed 8 Jan 14

maddog_cfc says...

I am a member of staff at Royal Bournemouth Hospital.

The traffic flow problems on Castle Lane is the only major factor in grid locking the hospital/Law Courts/Rias etc. On normal days most traffic exits adequately form these sites, albeit through a single highly susceptible road junction. When Castle Lane East becomes congested, yesterday due to roadworks on Barrack Road (ridiculous decision in view of all the other traffic disruption due to flooding!) the problems begin.

Drivers on Castle Lane see the congestion backing up toward Cooper Dean roundabout. They use the left hand lane into the hospital to 'slingshot' around the roundabout outside the hospital, exit back onto Castle Lane, and gain themselves a few hundred yard in the queue. By doing this they selfishly block the roundabout and prevent any egress from the hospital/Law Courts/Rias etc. Given the fragile nature of the traffic flow in the area, even a small disruption causes a self perpetuating grid lock.

If police traffic officers prevented blocking of the roundabout and directed a flow from the gridlock, the problems would be improved in the short term.

I previously contacted the council traffic planning department about the problems. They are prevented from improving the traffic flow towards Barrack Road by council planning restrictions. They also warned the council that additional traffic from Castle Point would overburden Castle Lane, and were apparently ignored.

The previous comments about fat lazy office staff are spurious - few employees in any of the affected establishments have any choice in the hours they work. Many of us travel from places and distances where public transport is not a realistic option.

The constant problems for the staff are irritating, but biggest concern in this should be for patients stuck in horrific jams after treatment (chemotherapy, renal dialysis, midwife appointments etc). Have the council or hospital management considered how blue light ambulances or urgent blood deliveries can get in with last nights gridlock? What would have happened had there been a fire - how could the fire service have got there??

This has gone on long enough. Shame on the council and the hospital management for not addressing and dealing with this issue by now!!
I am a member of staff at Royal Bournemouth Hospital. The traffic flow problems on Castle Lane is the only major factor in grid locking the hospital/Law Courts/Rias etc. On normal days most traffic exits adequately form these sites, albeit through a single highly susceptible road junction. When Castle Lane East becomes congested, yesterday due to roadworks on Barrack Road (ridiculous decision in view of all the other traffic disruption due to flooding!) the problems begin. Drivers on Castle Lane see the congestion backing up toward Cooper Dean roundabout. They use the left hand lane into the hospital to 'slingshot' around the roundabout outside the hospital, exit back onto Castle Lane, and gain themselves a few hundred yard in the queue. By doing this they selfishly block the roundabout and prevent any egress from the hospital/Law Courts/Rias etc. Given the fragile nature of the traffic flow in the area, even a small disruption causes a self perpetuating grid lock. If police traffic officers prevented blocking of the roundabout and directed a flow from the gridlock, the problems would be improved in the short term. I previously contacted the council traffic planning department about the problems. They are prevented from improving the traffic flow towards Barrack Road by council planning restrictions. They also warned the council that additional traffic from Castle Point would overburden Castle Lane, and were apparently ignored. The previous comments about fat lazy office staff are spurious - few employees in any of the affected establishments have any choice in the hours they work. Many of us travel from places and distances where public transport is not a realistic option. The constant problems for the staff are irritating, but biggest concern in this should be for patients stuck in horrific jams after treatment (chemotherapy, renal dialysis, midwife appointments etc). Have the council or hospital management considered how blue light ambulances or urgent blood deliveries can get in with last nights gridlock? What would have happened had there been a fire - how could the fire service have got there?? This has gone on long enough. Shame on the council and the hospital management for not addressing and dealing with this issue by now!! maddog_cfc

11:14am Wed 8 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park.
Trouble being that they'd all cycle on the pavement because it's 'safer for the kids'....
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park.[/p][/quote]Trouble being that they'd all cycle on the pavement because it's 'safer for the kids'.... speedy231278

11:40am Wed 8 Jan 14

maddog_cfc says...

Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed.

Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle.

Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option

Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative.
Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed. Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle. Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative. maddog_cfc

12:03pm Wed 8 Jan 14

pimpernel1982 says...

Working at AGEAS 50 (RIAS) it took me 1hr 30mins just to get out of the car park, with the road the way it is staff from this business always get stuck as hospital traffic takes priority due to the fact you have to give way to traffic coming from the right at both roundabouts you come to. On top of that traffic from castle lane going straight over to christchurch that do not want to wait at the traffic lights turn left into the wessex fields estate go around the roundabout and continue on their journey. This further blocks up the roundabout for people leaving the main hospital car park or from traffic coming straight over from RIAS/COURTS etc.

It's nut and on top of this you have a new enormous bus hub with more buses to block up the roundabout, it's funny bus drivers expect traffic to give way to them but not once have i seen a bus driver give way to a few cars coming out of the hospital car park or from RIAS or the Courts. A bit of give and take from everyone would be a good start. 1 car from one exit and then the next exit etc etc.

Over the years i've seen plenty of people traffic monitoring around here, what did they do with the data collected!!!! Councillors need to get down here in peak times and see it with their own eyes and work on a resolution ASAP.
Working at AGEAS 50 (RIAS) it took me 1hr 30mins just to get out of the car park, with the road the way it is staff from this business always get stuck as hospital traffic takes priority due to the fact you have to give way to traffic coming from the right at both roundabouts you come to. On top of that traffic from castle lane going straight over to christchurch that do not want to wait at the traffic lights turn left into the wessex fields estate go around the roundabout and continue on their journey. This further blocks up the roundabout for people leaving the main hospital car park or from traffic coming straight over from RIAS/COURTS etc. It's nut and on top of this you have a new enormous bus hub with more buses to block up the roundabout, it's funny bus drivers expect traffic to give way to them but not once have i seen a bus driver give way to a few cars coming out of the hospital car park or from RIAS or the Courts. A bit of give and take from everyone would be a good start. 1 car from one exit and then the next exit etc etc. Over the years i've seen plenty of people traffic monitoring around here, what did they do with the data collected!!!! Councillors need to get down here in peak times and see it with their own eyes and work on a resolution ASAP. pimpernel1982

1:43pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Dorset Outsider says...

maddog_cfc wrote:
Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed.

Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle.

Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option

Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative.
But as said by everyone, its not just the hospital there. Hospital staff and patients may not have a choice. But what about the staff RIAS employ? If you halved the staff car park, it would be a different story. More hospital parking but RIAS staff may actually have to USE the bus hub that is being complained,about.
[quote][p][bold]maddog_cfc[/bold] wrote: Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed. Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle. Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative.[/p][/quote]But as said by everyone, its not just the hospital there. Hospital staff and patients may not have a choice. But what about the staff RIAS employ? If you halved the staff car park, it would be a different story. More hospital parking but RIAS staff may actually have to USE the bus hub that is being complained,about. Dorset Outsider

1:51pm Wed 8 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Dorset Outsider wrote:
FNS-man wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park.
Trouble being that they'd all cycle on the pavement because it's 'safer for the kids'....
When my son is old enough to go to school I'll be cycling with him, and **** right he'll be on the pavement.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Thank you, someone with sense! All the excuses in the world are heard when bike are mentioned. If you have children that need to go to school etc, the do children's seats, children's trailers, little saddles to go on the cross bar, and an even crazier idea of a bike FOR children. Im not saying everyone should, just those who can. After all, it would be a lot quicker. You could travel 20 miles in the hour it takes to get out the car park. Now who sounds crazy? Its not all the council or polices fault congestion is caused by people driving. The less who drive, the less traffic for those who have no choice. I feel sorry for those hospital staff who have a 30 mile.drive home after the hour in the car park, when in the car in front of them maybe someone from throop or kings park.[/p][/quote]Trouble being that they'd all cycle on the pavement because it's 'safer for the kids'....[/p][/quote]When my son is old enough to go to school I'll be cycling with him, and **** right he'll be on the pavement. FNS-man

2:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

Hessenford wrote:
FNS-man wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Well aren't you a hero.
Not a hero. Just an ordinary guy, trying to make a difference.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Well aren't you a hero.[/p][/quote]Not a hero. Just an ordinary guy, trying to make a difference. FNS-man

2:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

pimpernel1982 says...

Dorset Outsider wrote:
maddog_cfc wrote: Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed. Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle. Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative.
But as said by everyone, its not just the hospital there. Hospital staff and patients may not have a choice. But what about the staff RIAS employ? If you halved the staff car park, it would be a different story. More hospital parking but RIAS staff may actually have to USE the bus hub that is being complained,about.
There are over a 1000 people working at the AGEAS 50 (RIAS) offices on the wessex fields estate, the car park has spaces for around 25% of those people, RIAS already actively encourage staff to use all forms of transport incentivising car sharing, funding bus passes so staff can as you say "USE" the bus hub, there is also a number of staff members taking advantage of the company/government backed cycle to work scheme, im a member of staff here and can assure you all steps are taken to promote green/efficient travel. In my case as in many others bus links in dorset are not great espeicially where i live in Blandford Forum meaning driving is my only option, however considerately i car share with 2 fellow colleagues. Blame and causation lays with all the residents on the site and only with everybody working together can a solution be found. Proportioning blame to one area of the site is just plain silly!
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Outsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maddog_cfc[/bold] wrote: Colleagues have pointed out to me a couple of points I previously missed. Hospital staff cannot even obtain on site parking if they live close enough to the hospital to reasonably walk or cycle. Many hospital staff work unusual shift patterns where walking, using public transport, car sharing etc, are simply not a viable option Patient/visitor parking contributes significantly to hospital congestion. In many cases this is unavoidable as many attending the hospital are too infirm to get there any other way. The absence of something sensible like a decent park and ride leaves them little alternative.[/p][/quote]But as said by everyone, its not just the hospital there. Hospital staff and patients may not have a choice. But what about the staff RIAS employ? If you halved the staff car park, it would be a different story. More hospital parking but RIAS staff may actually have to USE the bus hub that is being complained,about.[/p][/quote]There are over a 1000 people working at the AGEAS 50 (RIAS) offices on the wessex fields estate, the car park has spaces for around 25% of those people, RIAS already actively encourage staff to use all forms of transport incentivising car sharing, funding bus passes so staff can as you say "USE" the bus hub, there is also a number of staff members taking advantage of the company/government backed cycle to work scheme, im a member of staff here and can assure you all steps are taken to promote green/efficient travel. In my case as in many others bus links in dorset are not great espeicially where i live in Blandford Forum meaning driving is my only option, however considerately i car share with 2 fellow colleagues. Blame and causation lays with all the residents on the site and only with everybody working together can a solution be found. Proportioning blame to one area of the site is just plain silly! pimpernel1982

3:56pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Rabbitman64 says...

It just goes to show that you can build more roads but all that does is increase the traffic!
It just goes to show that you can build more roads but all that does is increase the traffic! Rabbitman64

6:20pm Wed 8 Jan 14

mrs google says...

Hessenford wrote:
Hopping Mad Lady wrote:
I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road!
The majority of the mess is down to hospital office workers all leaving at the same time, perhaps its about time they had staggered start and finish times to reduce congestion.
i can remember when the large Barclays international building was built in 1975. The bank introduced flexi time so that staff didn't leave the car park all in one go...and that worked
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hopping Mad Lady[/bold] wrote: I work at the hospital and it took me 2.5 hours to get out of the site tonight, and 1 hour yesterday. Tonight was an exceptionally long delay for the reasons already mentioned, however a 1 hour delay is not. Now we have a large building site at the rear of the hospital meaning around 2000 staff are expected to exit a car park via one small exit road, which is supposed to also be an entrance for deliveries to the rear of the hospital. There are concrete bollards all over the place, poor signage, poor lighting, and tonight hospital visitors were trying to get into the rear site only to be met with the staff trying to get out -resulting in haphazard 3 point turns at the dead end they encountered. Someone will be run over amongst this chaos one of these dark evenings. On top of that we have the building work associated with a bus hub at the front of the site. No wonder the hospital is a mess and staff morale is low. As for the suggestion of walking or cycling to work, how would our families get to nursery / school and back? Both the council and the hospital management have a duty to sort this mess out - bring back that relief road![/p][/quote]The majority of the mess is down to hospital office workers all leaving at the same time, perhaps its about time they had staggered start and finish times to reduce congestion.[/p][/quote]i can remember when the large Barclays international building was built in 1975. The bank introduced flexi time so that staff didn't leave the car park all in one go...and that worked mrs google

6:52pm Wed 8 Jan 14

dj2761 says...

I am outraged that Sky News is not reporting on this breaking news.
Route planning lady's and gentlemen, allow for delays and set off with plenty of time to spare you only have your selfs to blame.
I am outraged that Sky News is not reporting on this breaking news. Route planning lady's and gentlemen, allow for delays and set off with plenty of time to spare you only have your selfs to blame. dj2761

6:56pm Wed 8 Jan 14

dj2761 says...

FNS-man wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
FNS-man wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Well aren't you a hero.
Not a hero. Just an ordinary guy, trying to make a difference.
Which is what most people in London do, you are a hero don't play it down
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: I used to work in Salisbury, and commuted from Christchurch. Took my folding bike to the bus stop, took the bus to the outskirts of Salisbury and cycled the rest as the traffic is terrible near the town centre. If everyone did that who could (as before, tradesmen, the disabled, the very old and the morbidly obese excepted) then the traffic would flow like water. But no, everyone sits on their porky bottoms in their car, and complains about being held up by all the other people doing the same. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.[/p][/quote]Well aren't you a hero.[/p][/quote]Not a hero. Just an ordinary guy, trying to make a difference.[/p][/quote]Which is what most people in London do, you are a hero don't play it down dj2761

8:26pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ragj195 says...

muscliffman wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
snowy123 wrote:
Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.
Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke.....

Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane?

Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.
The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there.

So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance.
So in other words multiple traffic lanes leading up to traffic lights, but then disappearing immediately after them, could be considered as very short stay car parks!

But these are not really addressing the main problem are they?
The main problem?

The main problem was the temporary lights on Barrack Rd. Yes it can get busy on a normal day but if you think that's bad you should drive in some other towns. A 200m queue and a 10 minute tailback during rush hour isn't exactly "chaos".
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: Perhaps yesterdays Echo story regarding the new hospital "Bus Hub" has something to with it ? The 2 exit lanes from the hospital have been reduced down to 1 lane which is causing traffic to back up. The road closures in Christchurch have probably pushed extra traffic on to Castle Lane too.[/p][/quote]Without a doubt having been there it is, the whole atrocious road system/design in this area is beyond breaking point on a normal day - the bus 'hub' road works are just today's proverbial 'straw' that broke..... Until something sensible is done about Castle Lane East between Cooper Dean and Iford (and beyond) this chaos will only get worse. How did anyone at the Town Hall come up with (and presumably get paid for!) the idea of creating a huge five lane (plus coloured bus lane/s) dual carriageway that leads all east bound traffic straight into a single (two direction) carriageway piece of old 1950's Castle Lane? Time for a clean sheet of paper and some fresh competent blood to sort this roadway out.[/p][/quote]The reason there are three lanes heading eastbound at the lights is pretty straight forward and is often used as a method to manage traffic. It enables as much traffic as possible to pass through a single phase of green lights. Once those lights turn red it takes some while for them to turn green again so it's essential that each green phase runs as efficiently as possible. The fact this has been adopted in this location is the only reason why traffic doesn't back up far enough during a red light phase to grid lock Cooper Dean roundabout. It also allows the red lights to remain red long enough for cars to exit from JP Morgan and RBH fairly efficiently, which wasn't the case when a roundabout was there. So next time you see two lanes appear at a set of lights that quickly merge back into one, you know the reason. It's also in place a the traffic lights at the Bournemouth Airport entrance.[/p][/quote]So in other words multiple traffic lanes leading up to traffic lights, but then disappearing immediately after them, could be considered as very short stay car parks! But these are not really addressing the main problem are they?[/p][/quote]The main problem? The main problem was the temporary lights on Barrack Rd. Yes it can get busy on a normal day but if you think that's bad you should drive in some other towns. A 200m queue and a 10 minute tailback during rush hour isn't exactly "chaos". ragj195

9:48am Fri 10 Jan 14

mikeymagic says...

drJones wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.
lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered
Or stop queueing up for blood tests at 7:30 in the morning with your knitting! Dick.
[quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Misery caused by working age people who could easily walk or cycle to work insisting on using their cars. Delaying people who have to use cars and vans like disabled people and tradesmen. Very selfish.[/p][/quote]lol is that by any chance a comment from an OAP? If so, how about you do your food shop during the day (not at weekends) whilst these people are at work, or better still do it online and have it delivered[/p][/quote]Or stop queueing up for blood tests at 7:30 in the morning with your knitting! Dick. mikeymagic

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