Anti-social behaviour ‘will get worse’ if Boscombe Crescent is closed, say residents

Bournemouth Echo: Anti-social behaviour ‘will get worse’ if Boscombe Crescent is closed, say residents Anti-social behaviour ‘will get worse’ if Boscombe Crescent is closed, say residents

THE proposed closure of Boscombe Crescent has also been met with objections from residents as they voiced concerns that it could lead to a rise in anti-social behaviour.

Chairman of Springbourne Forum, Elaine Findlay, said they objected to the closure of Boscombe Crescent on Christchurch Road, which was ‘buried’ on page 10 of the plans.

She said: “It seems they want to restrict traffic heading north on Walpole Road.

“If that’s the case it’s going to bring a lot more traffic through Springbourne, also there’s just the extra danger of crime.

“If Walpole Road is essentially a dead end because traffic can’t use the Crescent, the drug dealing and the prostitution that goes on in that area will get worse.”

The proposals are still up for further consideration and debate. Councillor Jane Kelly said: “A lot of residents are in favour of blocking off the Crescent, but others have said they are against.

“If it was blocked off it would be to allow for the freer passage for buses, cyclists and pedestrians.”

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1:20pm Mon 6 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.
I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit. speedy231278

1:50pm Mon 6 Jan 14

skydriver says...

It's possible to get worse, cricky, that would put on a par with parts of Kandahar ................, I guess.
It's possible to get worse, cricky, that would put on a par with parts of Kandahar ................, I guess. skydriver

1:55pm Mon 6 Jan 14

arthur1948 says...

same as kinson...no one cares
same as kinson...no one cares arthur1948

2:06pm Mon 6 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

Objections to proposals for road changes to Christchurch Road, Palmerston Road and the Crescent, objections to plans to close Boscombe Crescent...... are people finally waking up to the fact that far from improving Boscombe Jane Kelly and her cronies are actually making it worse ?
.
Just who has actually benefitted from the £millions spent on failed regeneration projects in Boscombe ?
.
Regeneration and then reduction of anti-social behaviour has to be led by local residents it won't come from the Council spending £millions on failed regeneration projects
Objections to proposals for road changes to Christchurch Road, Palmerston Road and the Crescent, objections to plans to close Boscombe Crescent...... are people finally waking up to the fact that far from improving Boscombe Jane Kelly and her cronies are actually making it worse ? . Just who has actually benefitted from the £millions spent on failed regeneration projects in Boscombe ? . Regeneration and then reduction of anti-social behaviour has to be led by local residents it won't come from the Council spending £millions on failed regeneration projects BmthNewshound

2:26pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

I can only imagine that the councillors behind this idiocy are hoping that it will stop most of the public from seeing the mess that has been made of the Crescent Gardens.

Perhaps (or not as usual) the Daily Echo could ask for a break down of where the £55,000 went with regard to destroying that bit of previously well used green space. And more importantly to whom was that money paid.
I can only imagine that the councillors behind this idiocy are hoping that it will stop most of the public from seeing the mess that has been made of the Crescent Gardens. Perhaps (or not as usual) the Daily Echo could ask for a break down of where the £55,000 went with regard to destroying that bit of previously well used green space. And more importantly to whom was that money paid. Bob49

2:32pm Mon 6 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?
Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals? kalebmoledirt

3:25pm Mon 6 Jan 14

nothingtofear says...

I see that Elaine Findlay has mounted another hobby horse after her previous stint as a Friend of Kings Park.
I see that Elaine Findlay has mounted another hobby horse after her previous stint as a Friend of Kings Park. nothingtofear

3:54pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

It's where the Police station should be, not hidden up some side road almost in Pokesdown.
It's where the Police station should be, not hidden up some side road almost in Pokesdown. Telscombe Cliffy

4:26pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?
The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there.

It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit.

Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town.

The other way is far more lucrative.

Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance.

Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?[/p][/quote]The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there. It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit. Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town. The other way is far more lucrative. Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance. Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done. Bob49

4:26pm Mon 6 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Whoa lovely, another Boscombe bunfight.This time with 'Old Bruisers Findlay' involved.Perhaps she's queing for tickets to see Liverpool FC if the cherries beat Burton.Get one for old 'Grevious'!

So by closing off Walpole Road the emergency services will have to travel into Borthwick Road (Which is narrow enough) or go into Drummond Road.Crazy!.

So by closing the Crescent,it will only displace the issues.And i was under the impression the Crescent was going to be an events area with an electrical point.

The Police spent money sometime ago to make it a play area.They put in place wooded stools.But nobody used it.The money came from the CSAG.

Cllr Jane Kelly and her cronies has sent the area into further decline.She cherrypicks who she wants to be around.Hopefully, she will be sent back to Boscombe Chine Gardens in 2015 and take up her role as a tree warden.

'Just another day in da hood, homie.'
Whoa lovely, another Boscombe bunfight.This time with 'Old Bruisers Findlay' involved.Perhaps she's queing for tickets to see Liverpool FC if the cherries beat Burton.Get one for old 'Grevious'! So by closing off Walpole Road the emergency services will have to travel into Borthwick Road (Which is narrow enough) or go into Drummond Road.Crazy!. So by closing the Crescent,it will only displace the issues.And i was under the impression the Crescent was going to be an events area with an electrical point. The Police spent money sometime ago to make it a play area.They put in place wooded stools.But nobody used it.The money came from the CSAG. Cllr Jane Kelly and her cronies has sent the area into further decline.She cherrypicks who she wants to be around.Hopefully, she will be sent back to Boscombe Chine Gardens in 2015 and take up her role as a tree warden. 'Just another day in da hood, homie.' politicaltrainspotter

4:32pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Chukki's uncle says...

Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............
Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............ Chukki's uncle

5:04pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Roginthesouth says...

Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?
The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there.

It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit.

Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town.

The other way is far more lucrative.

Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance.

Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done.
@Bob49, So you are saying that housing benefit for property rental is paid to landlords by the council, without either an initial check, or regular inspection being carried out on the property!

As somebody who isn’t aware of the process, that seems terrible, both for the taxpayer and tenant.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?[/p][/quote]The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there. It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit. Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town. The other way is far more lucrative. Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance. Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done.[/p][/quote]@Bob49, So you are saying that housing benefit for property rental is paid to landlords by the council, without either an initial check, or regular inspection being carried out on the property! As somebody who isn’t aware of the process, that seems terrible, both for the taxpayer and tenant. Roginthesouth

5:55pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Depends on what you term regular inspection ... and what they are inspecting.

The bottom line is that the council will pay ren based on the size of the property NOT it's condition.

Change that and you would change Boscombe.

Landlords would have the stark choice of using part the rent to maintain their property to a marketable level, as is done elsewhere (and with Taxis, Coach hire, restaurants, guest houses etc) or be paid what these ratholes are really worth £50 a month NOT £500 per month as now.

If it is the first then better tenants would move into the area and most of the problems would recede. Currently taxpayers are lining the pockets of landlords to keep Boscombe in the dire state it is in.

It's your money - are you happy with where it goes and what problems that follow ?
Depends on what you term regular inspection ... and what they are inspecting. The bottom line is that the council will pay ren based on the size of the property NOT it's condition. Change that and you would change Boscombe. Landlords would have the stark choice of using part the rent to maintain their property to a marketable level, as is done elsewhere (and with Taxis, Coach hire, restaurants, guest houses etc) or be paid what these ratholes are really worth £50 a month NOT £500 per month as now. If it is the first then better tenants would move into the area and most of the problems would recede. Currently taxpayers are lining the pockets of landlords to keep Boscombe in the dire state it is in. It's your money - are you happy with where it goes and what problems that follow ? Bob49

6:19pm Mon 6 Jan 14

jinglebell says...

Roginthesouth wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?
The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there.

It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit.

Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town.

The other way is far more lucrative.

Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance.

Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done.
@Bob49, So you are saying that housing benefit for property rental is paid to landlords by the council, without either an initial check, or regular inspection being carried out on the property!

As somebody who isn’t aware of the process, that seems terrible, both for the taxpayer and tenant.
I think you can still see the TV programme "Landlords from Hell"...part of it was filmed in Boscombe and made it abundantly clear the Council are quite happy to fork out money to unscrupulous landlords.
[quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the landlords were given some incentive to be more aware of who they let too .the place might just start to become a far more desirable area.Just a thought if the residents are living off I'll gotten gains and using that money to pay the rent and give themselves a base from which to operate.is the landlords in colusion with criminals?[/p][/quote]The landlords are VERY aware of who they let to, and it isn't these supposed criminal masterminds - who if they were living off ill gotten gains would (and are) be living there. It is those with drink and drug problems that are the desirable tenants as they can be shoved into badly maintained, filthy ratholes whilst the landlords claim maximum housing benefit. Whereas to attract somebody working the property would have to have the common areas cleaned regularly, the grounds and garden maintain likewise and the flat itself would have to be clean and well decorated - as elsewhere around the town. The other way is far more lucrative. Why do that, when a compliant council will happily hand out the maximum payable irrespective of the condition of the property ? Until that lucrative scam is broken then Boscombe will continue to be swamped with people who have little care beyond their next drink or fix - and landlords who have little care beyond their swelling bank balance. Unfortunately it is the rest who are paying these parasites, but as long as the blame can be put upon the addicts -and councillors can waste money on useless initiatives then nothing is said ... or done.[/p][/quote]@Bob49, So you are saying that housing benefit for property rental is paid to landlords by the council, without either an initial check, or regular inspection being carried out on the property! As somebody who isn’t aware of the process, that seems terrible, both for the taxpayer and tenant.[/p][/quote]I think you can still see the TV programme "Landlords from Hell"...part of it was filmed in Boscombe and made it abundantly clear the Council are quite happy to fork out money to unscrupulous landlords. jinglebell

6:45pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Channel 4 - Landlords from Hell


http://www.channel4.
com/programmes/dispa
tches/4od#3220372
Channel 4 - Landlords from Hell http://www.channel4. com/programmes/dispa tches/4od#3220372 Bob49

7:00pm Mon 6 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Easy for me .I live elsewhere.but do know the Crescent and it,s problem .Amazed at the outrage and the articulate response of those on what I imagine is the front line.So write an open letter to.the Police.I look forward to some answers
Easy for me .I live elsewhere.but do know the Crescent and it,s problem .Amazed at the outrage and the articulate response of those on what I imagine is the front line.So write an open letter to.the Police.I look forward to some answers kalebmoledirt

7:09pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Ashley Miller says...

Chukki's uncle wrote:
Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............
Soon as l saw Elaine Findlay was involved l knew there would be trouble . . . . . . . . .
[quote][p][bold]Chukki's uncle[/bold] wrote: Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............[/p][/quote]Soon as l saw Elaine Findlay was involved l knew there would be trouble . . . . . . . . . Ashley Miller

7:56pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Moro99 says...

Unannounced Inspections are near impossible on a considerable number if properties in this area as they have no working doorbells. In some the doorbells have been removed completely. I have tried to survey residents here but it is near impossible.
If you can speak to tenants and see the accommodation it is shocking. Bob49 is right, it attracts people who cannot choose anything else.

Nothing else is needed in Boscombe other than enforcement of housing standards, it is simply the root of every problem.
Unannounced Inspections are near impossible on a considerable number if properties in this area as they have no working doorbells. In some the doorbells have been removed completely. I have tried to survey residents here but it is near impossible. If you can speak to tenants and see the accommodation it is shocking. Bob49 is right, it attracts people who cannot choose anything else. Nothing else is needed in Boscombe other than enforcement of housing standards, it is simply the root of every problem. Moro99

8:14pm Mon 6 Jan 14

hrryseccombe says...

Piecemeal regeneration= the same old crap they've been serving us for years

Where's the BIG PICTURE ?
Where's the EXPERTISE ?

Where's Community Engagement ?

Where's all the MONEY GONE?
Piecemeal regeneration= the same old crap they've been serving us for years Where's the BIG PICTURE ? Where's the EXPERTISE ? Where's Community Engagement ? Where's all the MONEY GONE? hrryseccombe

9:42pm Mon 6 Jan 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

speedy231278 wrote:
I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.
Why?
.
Just stop all benefits to people who don't come from here.
.
Force bedsits back into family homes!
.
Close all the druggie clinics and homeless shelters! They will get the message and jog on or die. I don't care which.
.
It's easy to clean up!
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.[/p][/quote]Why? . Just stop all benefits to people who don't come from here. . Force bedsits back into family homes! . Close all the druggie clinics and homeless shelters! They will get the message and jog on or die. I don't care which. . It's easy to clean up! HRH of Boscombe

10:07pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.
Why?
.
Just stop all benefits to people who don't come from here.
.
Force bedsits back into family homes!
.
Close all the druggie clinics and homeless shelters! They will get the message and jog on or die. I don't care which.
.
It's easy to clean up!
The disturbing thought is that this is not a send up.

Perhaps a grown up could explain to poor HRH the consequences of his first wish, or explain that there are those who work and live a perfectly decent live who choose for many reasons to life in what is termed a bedsit ... and maybe that some families have parents who have a drink and/or drug problem.

The problem is that this sort of ill thought out drivel not only over excites the Daily Mail reader but provides a convenient distraction from the real causes, as listed above. So we continue in this inevitable cycle of ranting at the effects and not dealing with the cause.


ps closing the rehabs/clinics etc will not really make a jot of difference as most of the problem folk don't attend them
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.[/p][/quote]Why? . Just stop all benefits to people who don't come from here. . Force bedsits back into family homes! . Close all the druggie clinics and homeless shelters! They will get the message and jog on or die. I don't care which. . It's easy to clean up![/p][/quote]The disturbing thought is that this is not a send up. Perhaps a grown up could explain to poor HRH the consequences of his first wish, or explain that there are those who work and live a perfectly decent live who choose for many reasons to life in what is termed a bedsit ... and maybe that some families have parents who have a drink and/or drug problem. The problem is that this sort of ill thought out drivel not only over excites the Daily Mail reader but provides a convenient distraction from the real causes, as listed above. So we continue in this inevitable cycle of ranting at the effects and not dealing with the cause. ps closing the rehabs/clinics etc will not really make a jot of difference as most of the problem folk don't attend them Bob49

10:15pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Boscomite says...

speedy231278 wrote:
I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.
You are an idiot. Close Boscombe and they'll come and live on your door step. We need suggestions of how to deal with the problems not smart arsed comments from some-one who doesn' know WTF he's talking about.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: I think the whole of Boscombe should be closed. That might help the situation a bit.[/p][/quote]You are an idiot. Close Boscombe and they'll come and live on your door step. We need suggestions of how to deal with the problems not smart arsed comments from some-one who doesn' know WTF he's talking about. Boscomite

10:48pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Roginthesouth says...

Bob49 wrote:
Channel 4 - Landlords from Hell


http://www.channel4.

com/programmes/dispa

tches/4od#3220372
I haven't see it, so thanks for the link.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Channel 4 - Landlords from Hell http://www.channel4. com/programmes/dispa tches/4od#3220372[/p][/quote]I haven't see it, so thanks for the link. Roginthesouth

9:50am Tue 7 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

Ashley Miller wrote:
Chukki's uncle wrote:
Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............
Soon as l saw Elaine Findlay was involved l knew there would be trouble . . . . . . . . .
It could be worse with Kate Adie appearing there.
[quote][p][bold]Ashley Miller[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chukki's uncle[/bold] wrote: Soon as I saw Elaine Findlay was involved I lost all interest............[/p][/quote]Soon as l saw Elaine Findlay was involved l knew there would be trouble . . . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]It could be worse with Kate Adie appearing there. Lord Spring

5:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Turn it into a gated community patrolled by security .ie the police.save petrol stick a police station there then see who wants to live next to a police station or drug den come brothel
Turn it into a gated community patrolled by security .ie the police.save petrol stick a police station there then see who wants to live next to a police station or drug den come brothel kalebmoledirt

5:36pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Azphreal says...

Who have they hired to do the work there at the moment as i saw nothing on the van (apart from no rear licence plate that was reported to the police). What is it with blocking roads off in Boscombe at the moment? If they want to drag the area up create stuff to keep the kids of the streets,have more police patrols and try to do something about the state of the housing in the area and stop allowing the creation of so many HMO's.
Who have they hired to do the work there at the moment as i saw nothing on the van (apart from no rear licence plate that was reported to the police). What is it with blocking roads off in Boscombe at the moment? If they want to drag the area up create stuff to keep the kids of the streets,have more police patrols and try to do something about the state of the housing in the area and stop allowing the creation of so many HMO's. Azphreal

11:00pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

Boscombe seems inclined to drive any outside interest in it away. Fast.

Is it that bad? If so, why are good people paying council rates? For goodness sake, wake the paid leaders and police up to do their job and clean the place up!

Take a lesson from New York: Three strikes: You are Out. No exceptions.
Boscombe seems inclined to drive any outside interest in it away. Fast. Is it that bad? If so, why are good people paying council rates? For goodness sake, wake the paid leaders and police up to do their job and clean the place up! Take a lesson from New York: Three strikes: You are Out. No exceptions. Yankee1

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