Man 'lucky to be alive' after car 'aquaplaned' and hit tree on Upton Bypass

Bournemouth Echo: Man 'lucky to be alive' after car 'aquaplaned' and hit tree on Upton Bypass Man 'lucky to be alive' after car 'aquaplaned' and hit tree on Upton Bypass

A SWANAGE man is ‘lucky to be alive’ following a horror smash on the Upton Bypass.

The man, who was driving a black Vauxhall Corsa, is believed to have aquaplaned after driving into standing water.

Following the 9am incident on Saturday, the vehicle flipped and the man – who is believed to be in his early 20s – was trapped in the wreckage.

Mandy Walker, 49, and partner Carl Newbrook, 45, were the first on the scene, and kept the injured man talking before the emergency services arrived.

Mandy, of Poole, said: “He went past us, and after 300 metres, we saw debris on the road.

“He ended up in a ditch and hit a tree. A giant branch the size of a small tree had fallen on top of the car too. It was absolutely awful – we thought he’d died.”

The couple stopped on the hard shoulder and dashed back to the car, where the man was slumped, unconscious, in his seat.

“Where the car had hit the tree, the door was caved in,” said Mandy. He had a head injury and after he came to, he was very confused. Carl just kept him talking while I stayed on the phone to the ambulance.”

The man suffered ‘serious’ injuries in the crash, including broken bones.

However, it is believed that he will recover over time.

Mandy said: “He’s a very lucky boy to get out of that one. It was a horrendous crash.”

Sergeant Nikki Burt of the Poole Traffic Department, pictured right, warned motorists to take care on flooded roads.

She said: “I would urge motorists to drive according to the conditions out there on the roads.

“It might mean that your journey takes an extra 20 minutes, but that’s better than not getting there at all.”

Just two hours later, on the same stretch of road, a local man driving a blue Lexus was involved in a crash.

Police believe the driver also hit standing water before the vehicle spun out of control.

The westbound carriageway closed during the afternoon over safety fears, but reopened as motorists were warned to take ‘extreme caution’ when driving through water.

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10:26am Mon 6 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Although I wish him a speedy recovery he was obviously going way to fast for the conditions to have done so much damage.
Although I wish him a speedy recovery he was obviously going way to fast for the conditions to have done so much damage. Hessenford
  • Score: 27

10:28am Mon 6 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

Hessenford wrote:
Although I wish him a speedy recovery he was obviously going way to fast for the conditions to have done so much damage.
Silly boy!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: Although I wish him a speedy recovery he was obviously going way to fast for the conditions to have done so much damage.[/p][/quote]Silly boy! suzigirl
  • Score: 10

10:35am Mon 6 Jan 14

High Treason says...

Then they wonder why insurance is so high for young drivers.
Then they wonder why insurance is so high for young drivers. High Treason
  • Score: 22

10:54am Mon 6 Jan 14

vicjoaid says...

The way some people are driving in this weather it's amazing that there aren't more accidents. I have been driving carefully but some people over take at speed and then they pull in front far too early and completely blind the cars behind!!
The way some people are driving in this weather it's amazing that there aren't more accidents. I have been driving carefully but some people over take at speed and then they pull in front far too early and completely blind the cars behind!! vicjoaid
  • Score: 20

1:25pm Mon 6 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone. FNS-man
  • Score: -4

2:37pm Mon 6 Jan 14

scrumpyjack says...

Someone posted on here the other day that they saw this accident and that he simply hit standing water and it flipped the car and it was not his fault saying that he was not driving at "speed".
Someone posted on here the other day that they saw this accident and that he simply hit standing water and it flipped the car and it was not his fault saying that he was not driving at "speed". scrumpyjack
  • Score: 15

4:12pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Samuel46 says...

FNS-man wrote:
This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed.

FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is! Samuel46
  • Score: 9

4:18pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Someone posted on here the other day that they saw this accident and that he simply hit standing water and it flipped the car and it was not his fault saying that he was not driving at "speed".
If he hit standing water and flipped the car he was going to fast for the conditions.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: Someone posted on here the other day that they saw this accident and that he simply hit standing water and it flipped the car and it was not his fault saying that he was not driving at "speed".[/p][/quote]If he hit standing water and flipped the car he was going to fast for the conditions. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Mon 6 Jan 14

vickability says...

I aquaplaned on the Upton bypass 15 years ago. I had my baby in the car and was not in excess of speed. I presumed I was just driving through a puddle, but suddenly I had no control of the car and it drifted into the outside lane. luckily nothing was coming up but I had know idea of that because I couldn't see a thing. I had been driving for more than seven years without incident but this experience frightened me so much that to this day I am very cautious of driving through puddles and hate the Upton bypass even in dry weather.
I wish this lad all the luck in the world and hope he makes a speedy recovery.
I aquaplaned on the Upton bypass 15 years ago. I had my baby in the car and was not in excess of speed. I presumed I was just driving through a puddle, but suddenly I had no control of the car and it drifted into the outside lane. luckily nothing was coming up but I had know idea of that because I couldn't see a thing. I had been driving for more than seven years without incident but this experience frightened me so much that to this day I am very cautious of driving through puddles and hate the Upton bypass even in dry weather. I wish this lad all the luck in the world and hope he makes a speedy recovery. vickability
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Mon 6 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

Wow, I would have thought it was obvious that, if someone sees a giant puddle across the road and doesn't slow right down, then they are driving far too quickly for the conditions.

Speed limits on roads are the maximum speed at which you should be driving in perfect conditions. Where there's likely to be standing water on the road, suitable speed is a lot lower. And given we've had the largest amount of flooding for about 35 years, then there's likely to be standing water on the road in places.

Whilst I wish him well for his recovery, this guy's dangerous driving put lives at risk. Do you really feel safe knowing that when he recovers later on this year, he will be back out driving when there's snow and ice on the road?
Wow, I would have thought it was obvious that, if someone sees a giant puddle across the road and doesn't slow right down, then they are driving far too quickly for the conditions. Speed limits on roads are the maximum speed at which you should be driving in perfect conditions. Where there's likely to be standing water on the road, suitable speed is a lot lower. And given we've had the largest amount of flooding for about 35 years, then there's likely to be standing water on the road in places. Whilst I wish him well for his recovery, this guy's dangerous driving put lives at risk. Do you really feel safe knowing that when he recovers later on this year, he will be back out driving when there's snow and ice on the road? FNS-man
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Chris the plumber says...

Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed.

FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
Of course her was driving TOO FAST or he would not have crashed and there is a big picture of a crashed car and a broken tree, that dos`nt happen at 30mph or 40 mph ..if you have ever aquaplaned you will know that you need to be doing 60 + or have very bald tyres ..
[quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]Of course her was driving TOO FAST or he would not have crashed and there is a big picture of a crashed car and a broken tree, that dos`nt happen at 30mph or 40 mph ..if you have ever aquaplaned you will know that you need to be doing 60 + or have very bald tyres .. Chris the plumber
  • Score: -1

8:53pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Turtlebay says...

Which part of 'slow down in inclement conditions' don't these idiots understand?
Which part of 'slow down in inclement conditions' don't these idiots understand? Turtlebay
  • Score: 2

10:25pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Sophieturner says...

Stop jumping to conclusions. I see you're all just commenting because of his age!! What about the 'man' in a Lexus that had a crash. It can happen to anyone. I hope he has a speedy recovery, he's a very lucky guy.
Stop jumping to conclusions. I see you're all just commenting because of his age!! What about the 'man' in a Lexus that had a crash. It can happen to anyone. I hope he has a speedy recovery, he's a very lucky guy. Sophieturner
  • Score: 1

6:37am Tue 7 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

Sophieturner wrote:
Stop jumping to conclusions. I see you're all just commenting because of his age!! What about the 'man' in a Lexus that had a crash. It can happen to anyone. I hope he has a speedy recovery, he's a very lucky guy.
It cannot happen to anyone and if you doubt my comment along with some of the others ask some of the teachers at school today their opinion it may help you when you drive on the roads
[quote][p][bold]Sophieturner[/bold] wrote: Stop jumping to conclusions. I see you're all just commenting because of his age!! What about the 'man' in a Lexus that had a crash. It can happen to anyone. I hope he has a speedy recovery, he's a very lucky guy.[/p][/quote]It cannot happen to anyone and if you doubt my comment along with some of the others ask some of the teachers at school today their opinion it may help you when you drive on the roads nosuchluck54
  • Score: -1

8:21am Tue 7 Jan 14

Stereotyped says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
Of course her was driving TOO FAST or he would not have crashed and there is a big picture of a crashed car and a broken tree, that dos`nt happen at 30mph or 40 mph ..if you have ever aquaplaned you will know that you need to be doing 60 + or have very bald tyres ..
I have aquaplaned before, at as little as just over 30mph... it doesn't require you to be going at 'high' speed to aquaplane. If the standing water is deep enough, you will not have any grip/control of the tyres which pass over it.

As for the comment further up the page, about "and they wonder why insurance is so high for young drivers"... It's because the insurance companies can charge that much, so they do. Honestly, I can say that I witness terrible driving on a daily basis, and 99% of it is from middle aged/older men and women. Tailgating, overtaking at stupid moments, edging forwards at red lights, pulling out on roundabouts when a car is approaching close which is already on the roundabout...

Oh, I am 23 years old by the way and drive a modified car, so I must be a bad 'boy racer'... got to love stereotypes.
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]Of course her was driving TOO FAST or he would not have crashed and there is a big picture of a crashed car and a broken tree, that dos`nt happen at 30mph or 40 mph ..if you have ever aquaplaned you will know that you need to be doing 60 + or have very bald tyres ..[/p][/quote]I have aquaplaned before, at as little as just over 30mph... it doesn't require you to be going at 'high' speed to aquaplane. If the standing water is deep enough, you will not have any grip/control of the tyres which pass over it. As for the comment further up the page, about "and they wonder why insurance is so high for young drivers"... It's because the insurance companies can charge that much, so they do. Honestly, I can say that I witness terrible driving on a daily basis, and 99% of it is from middle aged/older men and women. Tailgating, overtaking at stupid moments, edging forwards at red lights, pulling out on roundabouts when a car is approaching close which is already on the roundabout... Oh, I am 23 years old by the way and drive a modified car, so I must be a bad 'boy racer'... got to love stereotypes. Stereotyped
  • Score: 4

9:13am Tue 7 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
[quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly! suzigirl
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Tue 7 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

suzigirl wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet,

"In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph"

If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly![/p][/quote]You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously. FNS-man
  • Score: -1

2:21pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Stereotyped says...

FNS-man wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.
You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc...

As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane.

Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not.

Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph.

Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut)
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly![/p][/quote]You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.[/p][/quote]You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc... As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane. Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not. Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph. Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut) Stereotyped
  • Score: 3

6:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

FNS-man says...

Stereotyped wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.
You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc... As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane. Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not. Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph. Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut)
Everything I have said is factually correct. If you aquaplane your car, you are driviing dangerously. It doesn't matter whether you are over the speed limit or not. You cannot miss seeing a massive puddle of water if you are driving responsibly, and you should slow down.

Is this a difficult concept?
[quote][p][bold]Stereotyped[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly![/p][/quote]You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.[/p][/quote]You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc... As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane. Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not. Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph. Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut)[/p][/quote]Everything I have said is factually correct. If you aquaplane your car, you are driviing dangerously. It doesn't matter whether you are over the speed limit or not. You cannot miss seeing a massive puddle of water if you are driving responsibly, and you should slow down. Is this a difficult concept? FNS-man
  • Score: -1

6:40pm Tue 7 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

suzigirl wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
FCP
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly![/p][/quote]FCP nosuchluck54
  • Score: 0

10:29pm Tue 7 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

Why are these people not prosecuted for dangerous driving? It is so unfair that letting then get away with this by not bothering to prosecute means that all young drivers have to pick up the bill for these idiots through ridiculously high insurance. They should be prosecuted and banned to stop these very expensive accidents. I drove through the bad weather yesterday and on Friday and was horrified by the number of drivers overtaking me in the pitch black through floods. Illegal and putting me and my children at risk.
Why are these people not prosecuted for dangerous driving? It is so unfair that letting then get away with this by not bothering to prosecute means that all young drivers have to pick up the bill for these idiots through ridiculously high insurance. They should be prosecuted and banned to stop these very expensive accidents. I drove through the bad weather yesterday and on Friday and was horrified by the number of drivers overtaking me in the pitch black through floods. Illegal and putting me and my children at risk. ashleycross
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Teddy 1 says...

The upton bypas is very badly maintained in terms of water drainage by the council (Dorset county council that is). They ought to spend time and effort on this rather than 'one on one'im going to try to educate you drives for older people. Also, what happened to all those excellent driver reminder campaigns we used to hear and see around dorset, now all you see are those truely dreadful meaningless noddy no excuse dated old roadsigns which need to be binned along with the outdated strategy!
The upton bypas is very badly maintained in terms of water drainage by the council (Dorset county council that is). They ought to spend time and effort on this rather than 'one on one'im going to try to educate you drives for older people. Also, what happened to all those excellent driver reminder campaigns we used to hear and see around dorset, now all you see are those truely dreadful meaningless noddy no excuse dated old roadsigns which need to be binned along with the outdated strategy! Teddy 1
  • Score: 3

8:58am Wed 8 Jan 14

Stereotyped says...

FNS-man wrote:
Stereotyped wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Samuel46 wrote:
FNS-man wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.
I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is!
My thoughts exactly!
You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.
You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc... As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane. Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not. Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph. Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut)
Everything I have said is factually correct. If you aquaplane your car, you are driviing dangerously. It doesn't matter whether you are over the speed limit or not. You cannot miss seeing a massive puddle of water if you are driving responsibly, and you should slow down. Is this a difficult concept?
Apart from the small part where not all of what you had said is 'factually correct'! You think that (well, read on the internet) that cars only aquaplane above 53mph, which is not 'factually correct' at all.

Also, it would not be seen as dangerous driving, but Driving Without Due Care and Attention... Another area which you have not been 'factually correct'.

In addtition to this... it is quite easy (and very often the case) that standing water blends in to the road surface...especially when rain is still coming down. Also, it only takes a very small amount of standing water to put a car into a spin, even at low speeds, and once in a spin...due to the road surface being wet, it is almost impossible to correct it.

Shall I continue to correct your 'facts'?
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stereotyped[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samuel46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: This idiot should be charged with dangerous driving. He could have killed someone.[/p][/quote]I don't usually comment on things like this but the fact so many people are jumping to conclusion that he was driving fast is quite infuriating as there is nothing in the article that even mentions speed. FNS-man the fact that you have written that comment on the bottom of a article about hitting aquaplaning and crashing just shows that you are in fact the idiot or you just have no understanding on what dangerous driving is![/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly![/p][/quote]You only aquaplane is you are going too fast for the conditions. According to t'internet, "In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph" If you drive into a massive puddle at this sort of speed you're driving dangerously.[/p][/quote]You're right, to a certain extent... but that is in optimal conditions with brand new tyres, level road surfaces etc etc... As we all know, the roads around here are shocking, at best... and having worn tyres, i.e. not new, reduces the speed required to aquaplane. Then factor in the tread pattern, some tyres are very good at dispersing water...some are not. Factor all that in and the speed required to aquaplane can be as low as 35mph. Know your facts before you post in the future. (I am a car nut)[/p][/quote]Everything I have said is factually correct. If you aquaplane your car, you are driviing dangerously. It doesn't matter whether you are over the speed limit or not. You cannot miss seeing a massive puddle of water if you are driving responsibly, and you should slow down. Is this a difficult concept?[/p][/quote]Apart from the small part where not all of what you had said is 'factually correct'! You think that (well, read on the internet) that cars only aquaplane above 53mph, which is not 'factually correct' at all. Also, it would not be seen as dangerous driving, but Driving Without Due Care and Attention... Another area which you have not been 'factually correct'. In addtition to this... it is quite easy (and very often the case) that standing water blends in to the road surface...especially when rain is still coming down. Also, it only takes a very small amount of standing water to put a car into a spin, even at low speeds, and once in a spin...due to the road surface being wet, it is almost impossible to correct it. Shall I continue to correct your 'facts'? Stereotyped
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