Officials object to 'dangerous' new road layout plans

PROPOSAL: Traffic lights at the junction between St John's Road and Christchurch Road in Bournemouth

VULNERABLE: Jonathan Waddington-Jones

PROBLEM: Steve Underhill

First published in News by

DORSET Fire Service, councillors and a disability service have objected to the ‘dangerous’ plans to change the road layout in Boscombe which ‘could put lives at risk’.

Hailed as the ‘worst bit of traffic planning in Bournemouth for 50 years’ by Labour leader Cllr Ben Grower, the proposals include changes to Christchurch Road, Palmerston Road and the Crescent.

The consultation for the highways improvements which forms part of the Three Towns Travel programme also drew objections from Morebus and Bournemouth Transport Ltd.

DOTS Disability which provides services for disabled and elderly people has objected to the proposals to create a ‘shared space’ environment in Christchurch Road, at the western end of the precinct.

The planned changes involve altering the pavement, replacing the existing traffic signal-controlled crossing and reducing the traditional signs.

Jonathan Waddington-Jones, the Chief Executive of DOTS Disability, which is an arm of charity Access Dorset, said: “Visually impaired and disabled people will be ‘playing chicken’ with the traffic.

“It will be extremely dangerous as they will not know where the pavement begins and the road ends, so the lives of vulnerable people will be put at risk.”

Dorset Fire and Rescue Service objected to the proposed changes to the St John’s Road and Christchurch Road Junction.

District Commander Steve Underhill said: “We have a problem with the plans to raise the height of the kerb, as vehicles won’t be able to pull up onto them to get out of the way of emergency vehicles without damaging their cars.”

Boscombe resident Marine le Bais-Wright said: “The changes will be incredibly dangerous and it will put the lives of elderly people at serious risk.”

Ian Kalra, Head of Transportation Services at Bournemouth Council, said: “The consultation forms the first stage of the process and we wish to emphasise that at this point, none of the proposals have been finalised.

“We will be contacting DOTS Disability and other organisations to further discuss their concerns in more detail.”

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7:00am Mon 6 Jan 14

SympatheticSam says...

Can't be much worse than what it is already. You have to play chicken when crossing now anyway.
Can't be much worse than what it is already. You have to play chicken when crossing now anyway. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -5

7:10am Mon 6 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

Ian Kalra, Head of Transportation Services at Bournemouth Council, said: “The consultation forms the first stage of the process and we wish to emphasise that at this point, none of the proposals have been finalised.

“We will be contacting DOTS Disability and other organisations to further discuss their concerns in more detail.”


Well there's a first then. Seems the number of objections have it.
Clearly there wasn't enough objections for the dicing with death lane at Richmond hill.
Ian Kalra, Head of Transportation Services at Bournemouth Council, said: “The consultation forms the first stage of the process and we wish to emphasise that at this point, none of the proposals have been finalised. “We will be contacting DOTS Disability and other organisations to further discuss their concerns in more detail.” Well there's a first then. Seems the number of objections have it. Clearly there wasn't enough objections for the dicing with death lane at Richmond hill. BIGTONE
  • Score: 7

7:17am Mon 6 Jan 14

Howdie says...

Bottom line.... if BCC want it, they get it....regardless of the number of objections...
Bottom line.... if BCC want it, they get it....regardless of the number of objections... Howdie
  • Score: 16

7:35am Mon 6 Jan 14

arthur1948 says...

Its only Boscombe...
Its only Boscombe... arthur1948
  • Score: -3

7:41am Mon 6 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

arthur1948 wrote:
Its only Boscombe...
But Hitler started with the Gypsies so who will be next.
[quote][p][bold]arthur1948[/bold] wrote: Its only Boscombe...[/p][/quote]But Hitler started with the Gypsies so who will be next. Lord Spring
  • Score: -4

9:23am Mon 6 Jan 14

skydriver says...

Boscombe in the news again for the wrong reasons, come to think of it it's often in the news for the wrong reasons!
Boscombe in the news again for the wrong reasons, come to think of it it's often in the news for the wrong reasons! skydriver
  • Score: -1

11:06am Mon 6 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Leave it as it is, there are more pressing problems to deal with at the moment or is this a case of the council having to spend left over money yet again before the new financial year begins.
Leave it as it is, there are more pressing problems to deal with at the moment or is this a case of the council having to spend left over money yet again before the new financial year begins. Hessenford
  • Score: 9

11:52am Mon 6 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

I don't know why Bournemouth Council bother with public consultations. They have an agenda and irrespective of what the public thing they go their own merry way.
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The Three Towns Travel programme is proving to be a proper disaster. Local traders on Ashley Road Poole, the Richmond Hill cycle lane fiasco - in both cases public opinion has been completely ignored and cosmetic changes will fail to make the roads safer or traffic move more freely.
I don't know why Bournemouth Council bother with public consultations. They have an agenda and irrespective of what the public thing they go their own merry way. . The Three Towns Travel programme is proving to be a proper disaster. Local traders on Ashley Road Poole, the Richmond Hill cycle lane fiasco - in both cases public opinion has been completely ignored and cosmetic changes will fail to make the roads safer or traffic move more freely. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 11

12:00pm Mon 6 Jan 14

dartguru says...

Describing it as "the worst bit of traffic planning in Bournemouth for 50 years" is a big statement as it is a very competitive award.

Castle Lane outside Bournemouth Hospital and the whole design of Castlepoint take some beating.
Describing it as "the worst bit of traffic planning in Bournemouth for 50 years" is a big statement as it is a very competitive award. Castle Lane outside Bournemouth Hospital and the whole design of Castlepoint take some beating. dartguru
  • Score: 13

1:07pm Mon 6 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

dartguru wrote:
Describing it as "the worst bit of traffic planning in Bournemouth for 50 years" is a big statement as it is a very competitive award.

Castle Lane outside Bournemouth Hospital and the whole design of Castlepoint take some beating.
Indeed. Castle Lane East between Iford roundabout and Cooper Dean roundabout could take a national award for one of the worst examples of UK highway planning - ever.

And I must echo other comments that this 'Three Towns Travel' scheme fiasco is rapidly proving to be a total disaster for every sort of road user in this area - quite an achievement.
[quote][p][bold]dartguru[/bold] wrote: Describing it as "the worst bit of traffic planning in Bournemouth for 50 years" is a big statement as it is a very competitive award. Castle Lane outside Bournemouth Hospital and the whole design of Castlepoint take some beating.[/p][/quote]Indeed. Castle Lane East between Iford roundabout and Cooper Dean roundabout could take a national award for one of the worst examples of UK highway planning - ever. And I must echo other comments that this 'Three Towns Travel' scheme fiasco is rapidly proving to be a total disaster for every sort of road user in this area - quite an achievement. muscliffman
  • Score: 11

1:10pm Mon 6 Jan 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Another daft scheme to waste taxpayers money and put peoples lives at risk by our negative IQ planners
Another daft scheme to waste taxpayers money and put peoples lives at risk by our negative IQ planners fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 6

1:54pm Mon 6 Jan 14

gerbil112 says...

A fine example of "Shared Space" can be found at Sea View in Poole. The road marking are not standard markings as explained in the Highway Code. Everyone treats it as a roundabout (which it is) but theoretically you can drive anywher across it!
A fine example of "Shared Space" can be found at Sea View in Poole. The road marking are not standard markings as explained in the Highway Code. Everyone treats it as a roundabout (which it is) but theoretically you can drive anywher across it! gerbil112
  • Score: 4

7:39pm Mon 6 Jan 14

504gld says...

They've just proven themselves with the 'improvement' to Richmond Hill roundabout. In 10 years never known traffic to queue along Wimborne Road, but it does now. The new cycle lane is a farce, seen cyclists ignoring to use it cutting up the inside of traffic still. Traffic now queues at the new lights causing congestion getting on and off the ramps, when before - it all worked just fine. So, yes let them have a go at this junction and see what mess they can make.
They've just proven themselves with the 'improvement' to Richmond Hill roundabout. In 10 years never known traffic to queue along Wimborne Road, but it does now. The new cycle lane is a farce, seen cyclists ignoring to use it cutting up the inside of traffic still. Traffic now queues at the new lights causing congestion getting on and off the ramps, when before - it all worked just fine. So, yes let them have a go at this junction and see what mess they can make. 504gld
  • Score: 6

9:04pm Mon 6 Jan 14

UrbanCrab says...

Great to see the lunatics are still in charge of the asylum, roll on 2015....
Great to see the lunatics are still in charge of the asylum, roll on 2015.... UrbanCrab
  • Score: 1

7:10am Tue 7 Jan 14

tbpoole says...

Funny how you all moan about traffic lights and then complain when they are proposed to be taken out. No pleasing some people!
Funny how you all moan about traffic lights and then complain when they are proposed to be taken out. No pleasing some people! tbpoole
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

The Archer says...

as far as the shared space in Boscombe is concerned they need to look at what has been done in Poynton near Manchester, it is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER, as far as I know no-one has been killed on it YET but it is just a matter of time as it is for the cycle lane that has been placed between two traffic lanes at the top of Richmond Hill, as for the idiot who believes that cycles pull away from traffic lights faster than cars I would like him to demonstrate this in front of me.
as far as the shared space in Boscombe is concerned they need to look at what has been done in Poynton near Manchester, it is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER, as far as I know no-one has been killed on it YET but it is just a matter of time as it is for the cycle lane that has been placed between two traffic lanes at the top of Richmond Hill, as for the idiot who believes that cycles pull away from traffic lights faster than cars I would like him to demonstrate this in front of me. The Archer
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

The Archer says...

tbpoole wrote:
Funny how you all moan about traffic lights and then complain when they are proposed to be taken out. No pleasing some people!
which lights is this, nothing I've heard of. actually traffic lights are quite good but not in conjunction with a roundabout, just check with the highway code you will see they are both classed as HAZARDS so putting the two together surely creates a double hazard. it's the roundabouts that need to be taken out.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: Funny how you all moan about traffic lights and then complain when they are proposed to be taken out. No pleasing some people![/p][/quote]which lights is this, nothing I've heard of. actually traffic lights are quite good but not in conjunction with a roundabout, just check with the highway code you will see they are both classed as HAZARDS so putting the two together surely creates a double hazard. it's the roundabouts that need to be taken out. The Archer
  • Score: 0

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