UPDATE: "Hour-long" queues as traffic builds up at Castlepoint shopping Centre

Bournemouth Echo: "Hour-long" queues as traffic queues at Castlepoint shopping Centre "Hour-long" queues as traffic queues at Castlepoint shopping Centre

SHOPPERS reported being stuck in traffic for more than an hour as they tried to leave Castlepoint shopping centre.

One driver described the car park as “like New York City at rush hour" after the traffic built up at 1.30pm and the centre manager was among those directing motorists in an effort to clear the queues.

Rebecca Shiels, from Southbourne, was among those queuing on the lower floor to get out..

“The traffic is really bad,” she said.

“When I went in it was quite quiet in the shops but the traffic is horrendous.”

Fellow shopper Jim Smith said he was near Sainsbury’s on the lower deck and had not been able to move in his car for an hour.

Another driver, who asked not to be named, said she spent 20 minutes trying to find a car parking space.

“When we came in we noticed a lot people queuing to get out,” she added.

The shopping centre off Bournemouth’s Castle Lane West has enjoyed some busy spells this Christmas.

On Monday. December 23, a total of 22,153 cars passed through the car park, the second highest ever.

Peter Matthews, general manager at Castlepoint, was directing traffic for more than two-and-a-half-hours but did not know how many vehicles had entered the car park.

He said lots of shoppers came out at once after the weather cleared and traffic lights at the Woodbury Avenue roundabout added to delays as they were releasing traffic for fewer seconds than usual.

He said: “We’ve been exceptionally busy.

“It did not get busy until much later on than normal.”

He added: “There’s little that one can do when the traffic’s like this.

“Everybody wanted to come shopping at the same time.”

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4:29pm Mon 30 Dec 13

steve518 says...

God knows why any one goes to that place, would rather go to Bournemouth and pay to park and be able to leave without any bother.
God knows why any one goes to that place, would rather go to Bournemouth and pay to park and be able to leave without any bother. steve518

4:29pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Jim_Springbourne says...

I was one of those tweeting about being stuck. Started to leave at 2.30, got out just before 4.00.
One car queuing near where I was parked reported moving 6 feet in half an hour (well.. the car didnt report it, the driver did :-) )
The problem was made worse by cars continuing to pour in and having no-where to park. They really need to stop vehicles entering for a while, if people are having trouble getting out as it is.
Those parking under Sainsburys were particularly badly hit, as they are effectively giving way to everybody else.
I was one of those tweeting about being stuck. Started to leave at 2.30, got out just before 4.00. One car queuing near where I was parked reported moving 6 feet in half an hour (well.. the car didnt report it, the driver did :-) ) The problem was made worse by cars continuing to pour in and having no-where to park. They really need to stop vehicles entering for a while, if people are having trouble getting out as it is. Those parking under Sainsburys were particularly badly hit, as they are effectively giving way to everybody else. Jim_Springbourne

4:30pm Mon 30 Dec 13

trolley says...

And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever trolley

4:41pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.
Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses. Mike Oxbig

4:42pm Mon 30 Dec 13

twynham says...

Wife's just arrived home, took her all of 10 minutes to get out.
Wife's just arrived home, took her all of 10 minutes to get out. twynham

4:45pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Derf says...

They're not stuck in traffic, they are traffic.
They're not stuck in traffic, they are traffic. Derf

4:48pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Arjay says...

As I understand it, some people go to Castlepoint voluntarily?.... what a strange animal the human species is at times......
As I understand it, some people go to Castlepoint voluntarily?.... what a strange animal the human species is at times...... Arjay

4:53pm Mon 30 Dec 13

uvox44 says...

shops open after one day being closed...bah....must go shopping ...bah....stuck in queue with other sheeple...bah humbug!
shops open after one day being closed...bah....must go shopping ...bah....stuck in queue with other sheeple...bah humbug! uvox44

5:13pm Mon 30 Dec 13

CasuallyDressed says...

I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem? CasuallyDressed

5:16pm Mon 30 Dec 13

simcal says...

CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
Some people like to think they are superior, that's all.
[quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]Some people like to think they are superior, that's all. simcal

5:16pm Mon 30 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

twynham wrote:
Wife's just arrived home, took her all of 10 minutes to get out.
I am sure the owners of the place and the stores inside it are quite delighted with any crowding - and the envy of the few remaining establishments in the emptying old Bournemouth Town Centre.

But I have been to the banks at Castlepoint twice this afternoon, I used the under Sainsbury's main car park and came and went with no problems or delays at all - so this story is a mystery to me also.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Wife's just arrived home, took her all of 10 minutes to get out.[/p][/quote]I am sure the owners of the place and the stores inside it are quite delighted with any crowding - and the envy of the few remaining establishments in the emptying old Bournemouth Town Centre. But I have been to the banks at Castlepoint twice this afternoon, I used the under Sainsbury's main car park and came and went with no problems or delays at all - so this story is a mystery to me also. muscliffman

5:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.
And said by a seemingly revolting person
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.[/p][/quote]And said by a seemingly revolting person Hessenford

5:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

sc61 says...

CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
No shops that can't be found elsewhere, horrible dingy car park, hour long queues to escape (this isn't the first time). In short no USP.
[quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]No shops that can't be found elsewhere, horrible dingy car park, hour long queues to escape (this isn't the first time). In short no USP. sc61

5:37pm Mon 30 Dec 13

tricky1007 says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.
So what shops do you use? Most shops there are big chains which are busy in all towns and cities up and down the country. Problem lies in people making hard work of it not filtering etc. I got there at 3pm left at 3.30 and was out the car park by 3.50
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.[/p][/quote]So what shops do you use? Most shops there are big chains which are busy in all towns and cities up and down the country. Problem lies in people making hard work of it not filtering etc. I got there at 3pm left at 3.30 and was out the car park by 3.50 tricky1007

5:38pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
Agreed, more there than Bournemouth and free to park.
[quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]Agreed, more there than Bournemouth and free to park. Hessenford

5:45pm Mon 30 Dec 13

BournemouthMum says...

Arjay wrote:
As I understand it, some people go to Castlepoint voluntarily?.... what a strange animal the human species is at times......
I rarely go there and if I have to I go about 7pm when there's hardly anyone there. People going there week-ends or other busy periods need their heads examined.
[quote][p][bold]Arjay[/bold] wrote: As I understand it, some people go to Castlepoint voluntarily?.... what a strange animal the human species is at times......[/p][/quote]I rarely go there and if I have to I go about 7pm when there's hardly anyone there. People going there week-ends or other busy periods need their heads examined. BournemouthMum

5:59pm Mon 30 Dec 13

bea says...

The car park may be free and the stores larger and conveniently close to one another, but it is badly designed. The thought that when they finally get to rebuilding it the layout will be the same is frightening, this should be an opportunity for a major redesign.
The car park may be free and the stores larger and conveniently close to one another, but it is badly designed. The thought that when they finally get to rebuilding it the layout will be the same is frightening, this should be an opportunity for a major redesign. bea

6:02pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Peggy Babcock says...

trolley wrote:
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
...this coming from 'Trolley'!
[quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever[/p][/quote]...this coming from 'Trolley'! Peggy Babcock

6:11pm Mon 30 Dec 13

FNS-man says...

What a wonderful shopping experience.
What a wonderful shopping experience. FNS-man

6:32pm Mon 30 Dec 13

portia6 says...

simcal wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
Some people like to think they are superior, that's all.
You can get a lovely cup of tea in Marks and Spencers with a scone, very
reasonable. They even provide jugs of water and ice-cubes free!
[quote][p][bold]simcal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]Some people like to think they are superior, that's all.[/p][/quote]You can get a lovely cup of tea in Marks and Spencers with a scone, very reasonable. They even provide jugs of water and ice-cubes free! portia6

6:33pm Mon 30 Dec 13

smhinto says...

I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you.
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Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!!
.
But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time.
.
There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!!
.
One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!!
.
Regards
I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you. . Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!! . But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time. . There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!! . One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!! . Regards smhinto

6:37pm Mon 30 Dec 13

whataboutthat says...

Derf wrote:
They're not stuck in traffic, they are traffic.
Spot on Derf. Nuff said.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: They're not stuck in traffic, they are traffic.[/p][/quote]Spot on Derf. Nuff said. whataboutthat

6:41pm Mon 30 Dec 13

drJones says...

smhinto wrote:
I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you.
.
Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!!
.
But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time.
.
There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!!
.
One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!!
.
Regards
this maybe true, but if everyone followed your advice wouldnt it be just the same problem? duh!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you. . Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!! . But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time. . There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!! . One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!! . Regards[/p][/quote]this maybe true, but if everyone followed your advice wouldnt it be just the same problem? duh! drJones

6:48pm Mon 30 Dec 13

CasuallyDressed says...

sc61 wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
No shops that can't be found elsewhere, horrible dingy car park, hour long queues to escape (this isn't the first time). In short no USP.
Plenty of shops that can't be found elsewhere, actually. Well, nearby anyway. Only B&Q for a fair while, biggest Next and M&S, biggest Asda and Argos too. Hardly dingy parking if you go upstairs. Only need to park downstairs if its raining and to be honest, what underground parking isn't dingy? And surely the hour long queues to escape only prove that Castlepoint is popular?

That's why you dont like it really. It's popular. Busy. Crowded. I hear you, I hate people barging into me as much as the next person. But people have to shop somewhere.
[quote][p][bold]sc61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]No shops that can't be found elsewhere, horrible dingy car park, hour long queues to escape (this isn't the first time). In short no USP.[/p][/quote]Plenty of shops that can't be found elsewhere, actually. Well, nearby anyway. Only B&Q for a fair while, biggest Next and M&S, biggest Asda and Argos too. Hardly dingy parking if you go upstairs. Only need to park downstairs if its raining and to be honest, what underground parking isn't dingy? And surely the hour long queues to escape only prove that Castlepoint is popular? That's why you dont like it really. It's popular. Busy. Crowded. I hear you, I hate people barging into me as much as the next person. But people have to shop somewhere. CasuallyDressed

6:56pm Mon 30 Dec 13

hucky999 says...

park at home base and walk across.
park at home base and walk across. hucky999

6:56pm Mon 30 Dec 13

The Cerne Giant says...

Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury The Cerne Giant

7:14pm Mon 30 Dec 13

The Cerne Giant says...

Bleeding heck . . . .

. . . . had a leisurely stroll to Castle whatsit

Had a shop in the very friendly Sainsbury

Splendid Luncheon at the nearby Toby Carvery

. . . .followed by a brisk walk to join my trusty Yellow back home

Dear Mr Sainsbury will be delivering my interesting shop mid day tomoz

Easypeasy - make no mistake about that
Bleeding heck . . . . . . . . had a leisurely stroll to Castle whatsit Had a shop in the very friendly Sainsbury Splendid Luncheon at the nearby Toby Carvery . . . .followed by a brisk walk to join my trusty Yellow back home Dear Mr Sainsbury will be delivering my interesting shop mid day tomoz Easypeasy - make no mistake about that The Cerne Giant

7:15pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Reader Echo says...

Consumerism for the mindless masses, what fun.
Consumerism for the mindless masses, what fun. Reader Echo

7:18pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
[quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders?? Mike Oxbig

7:18pm Mon 30 Dec 13

utciad says...

CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
The problem is...access..
All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!)
BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane.
They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!!

How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built??
What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN
G...
And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau
se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!!

Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!!
(Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)
[quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]The problem is...access.. All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!) BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane. They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!! How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built?? What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN G... And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!! Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!! (Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!) utciad

7:20pm Mon 30 Dec 13

trolley says...

have you ever been to such a dump of a shopping centre?
the layout and design of the car park is absurd, its all held up by upports because it was poorly built and the road surface has rotted way.
soulless ugly place
im still amazed the place hasnt been condemned, british workmanship a its worst,
the silence around the state of the place is deafening
have you ever been to such a dump of a shopping centre? the layout and design of the car park is absurd, its all held up by upports because it was poorly built and the road surface has rotted way. soulless ugly place im still amazed the place hasnt been condemned, british workmanship a its worst, the silence around the state of the place is deafening trolley

7:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

spooki says...

I walk there as I only live a mile away but when I do drive I park downstairs and NEVER use the exit on B&Q side. The whole roundabout/exit/entr
ance was VERY badly planned (if it was actually planned). No one seems to understand basic road rules there.

Oh and by the way, when leaving Woodbury Avenue and joining the roundabout, the lane on the LEFT is for Castle Lane and the lane on the RIGHT is for Castlepoint.
I walk there as I only live a mile away but when I do drive I park downstairs and NEVER use the exit on B&Q side. The whole roundabout/exit/entr ance was VERY badly planned (if it was actually planned). No one seems to understand basic road rules there. Oh and by the way, when leaving Woodbury Avenue and joining the roundabout, the lane on the LEFT is for Castle Lane and the lane on the RIGHT is for Castlepoint. spooki

7:39pm Mon 30 Dec 13

spooki says...

Peggy Babcock wrote:
trolley wrote:
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
...this coming from 'Trolley'!
What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops.
[quote][p][bold]Peggy Babcock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever[/p][/quote]...this coming from 'Trolley'![/p][/quote]What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops. spooki

7:41pm Mon 30 Dec 13

spooki says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money? spooki

7:41pm Mon 30 Dec 13

transitman68 says...

Castlepoint or is very badly designed for the volume of traffic trying to get out via castle lane. It needs to have two roads out the back leading into throop/townsend. On a more positive note, anyone who dislikes traffic jams such as this, might I suggest purchasing a motorbike? I went to asda, came out to this jam, all I had to go was go around the cars, wait thirty seconds for the lights to change and I was through into townsend and back towards the dual carriageway. Plus the security guard seemed only too pleased to wave me through in front of a large toyota pick up truck.
Castlepoint or [crumblepoint] is very badly designed for the volume of traffic trying to get out via castle lane. It needs to have two roads out the back leading into throop/townsend. On a more positive note, anyone who dislikes traffic jams such as this, might I suggest purchasing a motorbike? I went to asda, came out to this jam, all I had to go was go around the cars, wait thirty seconds for the lights to change and I was through into townsend and back towards the dual carriageway. Plus the security guard seemed only too pleased to wave me through in front of a large toyota pick up truck. transitman68

7:44pm Mon 30 Dec 13

spooki says...

utciad wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
The problem is...access..
All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!)
BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane.
They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!!

How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built??
What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN

G...
And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau

se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!!

Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!!
(Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)
And you get wet when it rains! Shambles. Mind you, the front Hampshire Centre car park was built on old flood-prone farm land and they were warned about that too but they still turned it into a car park.
[quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]The problem is...access.. All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!) BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane. They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!! How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built?? What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN G... And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!! Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!! (Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)[/p][/quote]And you get wet when it rains! Shambles. Mind you, the front Hampshire Centre car park was built on old flood-prone farm land and they were warned about that too but they still turned it into a car park. spooki

7:58pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Lewcee says...

Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre.
Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre. Lewcee

8:04pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

Lewcee wrote:
Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre.
Maybe. But you have to go to Poole to get there. Even more Toby Carvery eaters and mobility scooters to contend with in Poole than in Kacker Point. Regards.
[quote][p][bold]Lewcee[/bold] wrote: Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre.[/p][/quote]Maybe. But you have to go to Poole to get there. Even more Toby Carvery eaters and mobility scooters to contend with in Poole than in Kacker Point. Regards. Mike Oxbig

8:05pm Mon 30 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

Do you only have work experience journalists working on here .burnt pies and tea towels dog poo and fat kids.but fun if your retired and not a lot on
Do you only have work experience journalists working on here .burnt pies and tea towels dog poo and fat kids.but fun if your retired and not a lot on kalebmoledirt

8:26pm Mon 30 Dec 13

shaft says...

spooki wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
What they have Television in West Howe.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?[/p][/quote]What they have Television in West Howe. shaft

8:38pm Mon 30 Dec 13

fedupwithfedupjobsworths says...

Too many people off work at this time of year all with nothing to do but look round shops. Get back to work and take time off in January !
Too many people off work at this time of year all with nothing to do but look round shops. Get back to work and take time off in January ! fedupwithfedupjobsworths

8:39pm Mon 30 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

Luckily I had bought sir Cliffs .Christmas album in the bargain bin.so had a very pleasant drive back to my holiday home in West Howe.cleared up the glass .And phoned the "The Rozzers" do hope they like ASDA pork pie and oven ready French fries
Luckily I had bought sir Cliffs .Christmas album in the bargain bin.so had a very pleasant drive back to my holiday home in West Howe.cleared up the glass .And phoned the "The Rozzers" do hope they like ASDA pork pie and oven ready French fries kalebmoledirt

9:26pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Ddraig Coch says...

I dont really care as I usually walk there. But instead of that crossing by the back of carphone warehouse, why wasn't that built as a pedestrian bridge straight over to the bus stops. That would stop a lot of the traffic having to stop
I dont really care as I usually walk there. But instead of that crossing by the back of carphone warehouse, why wasn't that built as a pedestrian bridge straight over to the bus stops. That would stop a lot of the traffic having to stop Ddraig Coch

9:32pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

shaft wrote:
spooki wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
What they have Television in West Howe.
Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?[/p][/quote]What they have Television in West Howe.[/p][/quote]Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence. Hessenford

9:45pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Brock_and_Roll says...

I have not been in a shop (other than supermarkets pubs and a funeral directors) for over a year now....and I just don't miss them at all.

To me Castlepoint is like a featureless American strip mall, but with terrible traffic planning. Mind you I still remember the Hampshire Centre that was there before.......makes Castlepoint look like Disneyland!
I have not been in a shop (other than supermarkets pubs and a funeral directors) for over a year now....and I just don't miss them at all. To me Castlepoint is like a featureless American strip mall, but with terrible traffic planning. Mind you I still remember the Hampshire Centre that was there before.......makes Castlepoint look like Disneyland! Brock_and_Roll

9:46pm Mon 30 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

They had all been to the cashpoint to get some money out to start repaying their Wonga loan back.
They had all been to the cashpoint to get some money out to start repaying their Wonga loan back. BIGTONE

9:46pm Mon 30 Dec 13

wintonCheryl says...

utciad wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
The problem is...access..
All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!)
BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane.
They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!!

How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built??
What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN

G...
And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau

se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!!

Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!!
(Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)
There are 2 entrances/ exits onto castle lane last time I was there. Have I imagined it?
[quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]The problem is...access.. All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!) BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane. They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!! How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built?? What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN G... And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!! Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!! (Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)[/p][/quote]There are 2 entrances/ exits onto castle lane last time I was there. Have I imagined it? wintonCheryl

9:52pm Mon 30 Dec 13

glendower2909 says...

Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint...
Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint... glendower2909

9:59pm Mon 30 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

glendower2909 wrote:
Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint...
They take a leaf out of our Government. Stitch the poor,vulnerable and the sick.
[quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint...[/p][/quote]They take a leaf out of our Government. Stitch the poor,vulnerable and the sick. BIGTONE

10:10pm Mon 30 Dec 13

PokesdownMark says...

Issue arises when traffic coming in is blocked by, and blocks, traffic leaving.

Same thing happens at exceptionally busy times in the car park at the large tesco further along toward Iford.

Hopefully when krumble point car park is rebuilt they will have roads in at one end and roads out at the other.
Issue arises when traffic coming in is blocked by, and blocks, traffic leaving. Same thing happens at exceptionally busy times in the car park at the large tesco further along toward Iford. Hopefully when krumble point car park is rebuilt they will have roads in at one end and roads out at the other. PokesdownMark

10:21pm Mon 30 Dec 13

JemBmth says...

Hessenford wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
Agreed, more there than Bournemouth and free to park.
Agree with you Nothing wrong with Castle Point. Otherwise there wouldn't be queues to get IN and out.

The town centre is full of people begging for money or making a racket in The Square. Perhaps people just prefer cheap shops like Lidl
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]Agreed, more there than Bournemouth and free to park.[/p][/quote]Agree with you Nothing wrong with Castle Point. Otherwise there wouldn't be queues to get IN and out. The town centre is full of people begging for money or making a racket in The Square. Perhaps people just prefer cheap shops like Lidl JemBmth

10:34pm Mon 30 Dec 13

galadriel says...

I shop at Castlepoint because it's the nearest place to go, parking is free and the shops are adequate. Shopping has to be done, we all have to eat, but with a little forward planning it's possible to avoid the crowds. The only thing I've bought since December 22cnd is milk and bananas from a small shop nearby. I won't venture near Castlepoint for at least another week.
I shop at Castlepoint because it's the nearest place to go, parking is free and the shops are adequate. Shopping has to be done, we all have to eat, but with a little forward planning it's possible to avoid the crowds. The only thing I've bought since December 22cnd is milk and bananas from a small shop nearby. I won't venture near Castlepoint for at least another week. galadriel

10:45pm Mon 30 Dec 13

galadriel says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.
Mike Oxbig....you really love to hand out insults wherever possible...you must have a chip the size of Castlepoint on your shoulder...
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Ha! I'm sure New York is delighted to be compared to Kacker Point.... Revolting shops for the revolting masses.[/p][/quote]Mike Oxbig....you really love to hand out insults wherever possible...you must have a chip the size of Castlepoint on your shoulder... galadriel

10:46pm Mon 30 Dec 13

FNS-man says...

spooki wrote:
Peggy Babcock wrote:
trolley wrote:
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
...this coming from 'Trolley'!
What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops.
If you're local then presumably you walk there or go by bike, and so are unaffected by the traffic.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peggy Babcock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever[/p][/quote]...this coming from 'Trolley'![/p][/quote]What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops.[/p][/quote]If you're local then presumably you walk there or go by bike, and so are unaffected by the traffic. FNS-man

10:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

galadriel says...

smhinto wrote:
I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you.
.
Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!!
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But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time.
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There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!!
.
One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!!
.
Regards
So how many times have you been to Castlepoint, then, Smhinto? Must be just down the road from Lincoln, eh?!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you. . Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!! . But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time. . There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!! . One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!! . Regards[/p][/quote]So how many times have you been to Castlepoint, then, Smhinto? Must be just down the road from Lincoln, eh?! galadriel

11:58pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Baywolf says...

And they havnt even sorted the car park yet...it's easier to park and get out of Heathrow Terminal 4
And they havnt even sorted the car park yet...it's easier to park and get out of Heathrow Terminal 4 Baywolf

12:50am Tue 31 Dec 13

Understated says...

why not just get the bus?
i mean, why not? when they know its busy,. they wont find spaces, it will be hell to get out, why cant they spend £2 on a bus ticket and get to and from home with little problems. .the fuel wasted in the queue and driving around looking for a space must cost 3 times that..

i understand disabled people and those with kids, but any healthy person with a suitable pair of legs should **** use them once in a while instead of whinge and moan about traffic.
why not just get the bus? i mean, why not? when they know its busy,. they wont find spaces, it will be hell to get out, why cant they spend £2 on a bus ticket and get to and from home with little problems. .the fuel wasted in the queue and driving around looking for a space must cost 3 times that.. i understand disabled people and those with kids, but any healthy person with a suitable pair of legs should **** use them once in a while instead of whinge and moan about traffic. Understated

1:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

chelsea53 says...

An hour is a fairly regular occurrence for traffic leaving the Law Courts, Ageas Buildings, Village Hotel and some of the hospital, any time after 4pm. Too many buildings inadequate road structure. These aren't shops mostly places of work.. I also don't understand the call of shopping at Castlepoint. Nor think this is newsworthy. Its called traffic.
An hour is a fairly regular occurrence for traffic leaving the Law Courts, Ageas Buildings, Village Hotel and some of the hospital, any time after 4pm. Too many buildings inadequate road structure. These aren't shops mostly places of work.. I also don't understand the call of shopping at Castlepoint. Nor think this is newsworthy. Its called traffic. chelsea53

2:22am Tue 31 Dec 13

Nigel Blumenthal says...

"Peter Matthews, general manager at Castlepoint,... said: “We’ve been exceptionally busy.
He added: “There’s little that one can do when the traffic’s like this.
“Everybody wanted to come shopping at the same time.” "

Well, that's the usual British disease. Blame the shoppers. Or blame the leaves, or the snow (wrong kind of each), or blame anyone except the people who are really responsible.

The designers and the Council.

Anyone can see that the design of Castlepoint, with two lanes exiting to two traffic lights at one end, and one lane per direction onto a roundabout at the other, is totally unfit for purpose, unless the stated purpose of Castlepoint was to ensure that the shops are only ever one-third full. The car park exits and traffic management are a disgrace, and the designers would be laughed at by any knowledgeable designer of shopping centres. The whole point is that traffic has to be exiting smoothly and quickly, and that involves extra lanes, road widening, and removal of impediments to traffic flow. I have to say, I stay away from C'Point unless there's some reason why I absolutely need to go there.
"Peter Matthews, general manager at Castlepoint,... said: “We’ve been exceptionally busy. He added: “There’s little that one can do when the traffic’s like this. “Everybody wanted to come shopping at the same time.” " Well, that's the usual British disease. Blame the shoppers. Or blame the leaves, or the snow (wrong kind of each), or blame anyone except the people who are really responsible. The designers and the Council. Anyone can see that the design of Castlepoint, with two lanes exiting to two traffic lights at one end, and one lane per direction onto a roundabout at the other, is totally unfit for purpose, unless the stated purpose of Castlepoint was to ensure that the shops are only ever one-third full. The car park exits and traffic management are a disgrace, and the designers would be laughed at by any knowledgeable designer of shopping centres. The whole point is that traffic has to be exiting smoothly and quickly, and that involves extra lanes, road widening, and removal of impediments to traffic flow. I have to say, I stay away from C'Point unless there's some reason why I absolutely need to go there. Nigel Blumenthal

8:36am Tue 31 Dec 13

sammmymac says...

I went to the sales in town. Same shops as Castle Point plus designer sections in Debenhams, House of Fraser and Beales. Also Oasis, Zara, Pandora, Lush, HMV, Office, Shuh, Essentials, Superdry, Cath Kitson and body shop. Wow when I started the list I didn't realise how many more shops the town has. We then went for a walk through the gardens, along the seafront, came back up bath hill, ate in wagamama and went to the cinema. A lovely day out and home in time for a cup of tea and a few mince pies. Oh and we parked in Bath Hill Road.
I went to the sales in town. Same shops as Castle Point plus designer sections in Debenhams, House of Fraser and Beales. Also Oasis, Zara, Pandora, Lush, HMV, Office, Shuh, Essentials, Superdry, Cath Kitson and body shop. Wow when I started the list I didn't realise how many more shops the town has. We then went for a walk through the gardens, along the seafront, came back up bath hill, ate in wagamama and went to the cinema. A lovely day out and home in time for a cup of tea and a few mince pies. Oh and we parked in Bath Hill Road. sammmymac

8:41am Tue 31 Dec 13

Phixer says...

trolley wrote:
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
The problem with living in 'boring' Bournemouth - as some see it - is that the Ohec has little serious news to report but still has to make money.

I went to Asda at 4.50 and came out at 5.20, about 15-20 mins lost at most in traffic.

Move along, nothing to see here.
[quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever[/p][/quote]The problem with living in 'boring' Bournemouth - as some see it - is that the Ohec has little serious news to report but still has to make money. I went to Asda at 4.50 and came out at 5.20, about 15-20 mins lost at most in traffic. Move along, nothing to see here. Phixer

9:09am Tue 31 Dec 13

Graham Rees says...

This recurring problem at Castlepoint can quite simply be rectified by installing incoming and outgoing vehicle counters. Then simply display at the main entrance 'Car Parks Full - Try later'. Might save a few thousand man hours of people sitting in their cars and getting fed - up. Simples!
This recurring problem at Castlepoint can quite simply be rectified by installing incoming and outgoing vehicle counters. Then simply display at the main entrance 'Car Parks Full - Try later'. Might save a few thousand man hours of people sitting in their cars and getting fed - up. Simples! Graham Rees

9:15am Tue 31 Dec 13

Dorset Logic says...

Consumers, baa baa
Consumers, baa baa Dorset Logic

9:26am Tue 31 Dec 13

DemonDiva says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Lewcee wrote:
Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre.
Maybe. But you have to go to Poole to get there. Even more Toby Carvery eaters and mobility scooters to contend with in Poole than in Kacker Point. Regards.
I don't suppose you'd want to tell us all where you shop? Might get all the "offensive word" shopping there next.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lewcee[/bold] wrote: Suckers should have stayed at home, it is a renowned "traffic-block" spot! I walked a mile into Poole, through the Park. It was fine and easy to get round there. Warm & cosy in the Dolphin Centre.[/p][/quote]Maybe. But you have to go to Poole to get there. Even more Toby Carvery eaters and mobility scooters to contend with in Poole than in Kacker Point. Regards.[/p][/quote]I don't suppose you'd want to tell us all where you shop? Might get all the "offensive word" shopping there next. DemonDiva

10:01am Tue 31 Dec 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

sammmymac wrote:
I went to the sales in town. Same shops as Castle Point plus designer sections in Debenhams, House of Fraser and Beales. Also Oasis, Zara, Pandora, Lush, HMV, Office, Shuh, Essentials, Superdry, Cath Kitson and body shop. Wow when I started the list I didn't realise how many more shops the town has. We then went for a walk through the gardens, along the seafront, came back up bath hill, ate in wagamama and went to the cinema. A lovely day out and home in time for a cup of tea and a few mince pies. Oh and we parked in Bath Hill Road.
Yeah its amazing what we have in town, if only those that are so quick to criticise actually walked around there with their eyes open
[quote][p][bold]sammmymac[/bold] wrote: I went to the sales in town. Same shops as Castle Point plus designer sections in Debenhams, House of Fraser and Beales. Also Oasis, Zara, Pandora, Lush, HMV, Office, Shuh, Essentials, Superdry, Cath Kitson and body shop. Wow when I started the list I didn't realise how many more shops the town has. We then went for a walk through the gardens, along the seafront, came back up bath hill, ate in wagamama and went to the cinema. A lovely day out and home in time for a cup of tea and a few mince pies. Oh and we parked in Bath Hill Road.[/p][/quote]Yeah its amazing what we have in town, if only those that are so quick to criticise actually walked around there with their eyes open iwishiwaslikeyou

10:04am Tue 31 Dec 13

snowy123 says...

Hessenford wrote:
shaft wrote:
spooki wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
What they have Television in West Howe.
Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.
Not sure what West Howe has to do with queues of traffic at Castlepoint ?!
But just to let you know. Yes, we do have televisions over here. In fact I have 4, ( all all flat screen of course ) with the licence fully paid ! We also have Sky TV, several smart phones and tablets, and go on at least 1 foreign holiday each year. FYI I can count how many times I have been to Castlepoint on one hand.
So sad that so many people are still living way back in the past !!!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?[/p][/quote]What they have Television in West Howe.[/p][/quote]Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.[/p][/quote]Not sure what West Howe has to do with queues of traffic at Castlepoint ?! But just to let you know. Yes, we do have televisions over here. In fact I have 4, ( all all flat screen of course ) with the licence fully paid ! We also have Sky TV, several smart phones and tablets, and go on at least 1 foreign holiday each year. FYI I can count how many times I have been to Castlepoint on one hand. So sad that so many people are still living way back in the past !!! snowy123

12:55pm Tue 31 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

snowy123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
shaft wrote:
spooki wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
What they have Television in West Howe.
Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.
Not sure what West Howe has to do with queues of traffic at Castlepoint ?!
But just to let you know. Yes, we do have televisions over here. In fact I have 4, ( all all flat screen of course ) with the licence fully paid ! We also have Sky TV, several smart phones and tablets, and go on at least 1 foreign holiday each year. FYI I can count how many times I have been to Castlepoint on one hand.
So sad that so many people are still living way back in the past !!!
Hope your insured after listing all your treasure and then saying you away for a couple of weeks a year.Ps I was bought up in West Howe 50 years ago great childhood . Good people
[quote][p][bold]snowy123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?[/p][/quote]What they have Television in West Howe.[/p][/quote]Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.[/p][/quote]Not sure what West Howe has to do with queues of traffic at Castlepoint ?! But just to let you know. Yes, we do have televisions over here. In fact I have 4, ( all all flat screen of course ) with the licence fully paid ! We also have Sky TV, several smart phones and tablets, and go on at least 1 foreign holiday each year. FYI I can count how many times I have been to Castlepoint on one hand. So sad that so many people are still living way back in the past !!![/p][/quote]Hope your insured after listing all your treasure and then saying you away for a couple of weeks a year.Ps I was bought up in West Howe 50 years ago great childhood . Good people kalebmoledirt

1:07pm Tue 31 Dec 13

freedom for pokesdown says...

The queues are not really a problem - all part of the fun for those who choose to visit the sales and buy whatever it is so important for them to buy
The queues are not really a problem - all part of the fun for those who choose to visit the sales and buy whatever it is so important for them to buy freedom for pokesdown

1:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

O'Reilly says...

FNS-man wrote:
What a wonderful shopping experience.
Yepper.....I get the same buzz at the 99p shop.......
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: What a wonderful shopping experience.[/p][/quote]Yepper.....I get the same buzz at the 99p shop....... O'Reilly

1:21pm Tue 31 Dec 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

Hessenford wrote:
shaft wrote:
spooki wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
The Cerne Giant wrote:
Sailed in and out

No problem

Using "shanks pony"



Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit

Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury
Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??
Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?
What they have Television in West Howe.
Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.
That comment and the commenter should never be allowed to contribute to this site ever again although it does show the negative side of Bournemouth that lets the rest of us down that we have to deal with
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Cerne Giant[/bold] wrote: Sailed in and out No problem Using "shanks pony" Even enjoyed a fantesticle lunch at the nearby Toby Whatsit Plus my shopping will be delivered by my dear friendly Master Sainsbury[/p][/quote]Shopping at Kacker Point. Lunch at Toby Carvery. Back home at West Howe in time for East Enders??[/p][/quote]Snob. Why do you make this assumption just because the person has more sense than money?[/p][/quote]What they have Television in West Howe.[/p][/quote]Even dumps like West Howe have televisions but most have no licence.[/p][/quote]That comment and the commenter should never be allowed to contribute to this site ever again although it does show the negative side of Bournemouth that lets the rest of us down that we have to deal with iwishiwaslikeyou

2:55pm Tue 31 Dec 13

iwishiwaslikeyou says...

O'Reilly wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
What a wonderful shopping experience.
Yepper.....I get the same buzz at the 99p shop.......
you must be John Terry please to meet you,am a great fan
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: What a wonderful shopping experience.[/p][/quote]Yepper.....I get the same buzz at the 99p shop.......[/p][/quote]you must be John Terry please to meet you,am a great fan iwishiwaslikeyou

3:30pm Tue 31 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

wintonCheryl wrote:
utciad wrote:
CasuallyDressed wrote:
I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?
The problem is...access..
All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!)
BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane.
They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!!

How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built??
What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN


G...
And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau


se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!!

Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!!
(Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)
There are 2 entrances/ exits onto castle lane last time I was there. Have I imagined it?
I thought that but yes, you have imagined it! Because there is only one main entrance/exit on Castle Lane at Woodbury Avenue roundabout. The alternative major entrance/exit is on Yeomans Road near but not on Castle Lane. However I have always maintained a five year old with toy cars could sketch a better road layout than the one approved by the Council for here!
[quote][p][bold]wintonCheryl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CasuallyDressed[/bold] wrote: I really don't get the hate for Castlepoint. Free parking (mere metres from the shops), late closing, bigger department stores. What's the problem?[/p][/quote]The problem is...access.. All this was pointed out when the original plans to replace the 'Hampshire Centre' (which had 2 entrance/exits, one onto Castle Lane, and 1 out the back onto Yeomans Way!!) BUT... in there wisdom, the council allowed the Castlepoint to be built with just the 1 entrance/exit, onto Castle Lane. They argued that there would be NO PROBLEM with the traffic, that the roads would be widened to cope, and that we were making a fuss over nothing.. despite the whole site being 3 times bigger... AND all the traffic confined to the one and only exit!!! How many times has this happened since Castlepoint was built?? What have/are the council doing to remedy the situation.....NOTHIN G... And they will continue to do...NOTHING...becau se now the Centre has been built, they have had their share of the builders funding, so they want no more to do with it!!! Councillors are not interested, they were the ones we complained to originally, and, despite the fact we LIVE here and have to suffer other peoples planning mistakes cuts no ice with them. They just WOULD not listen to those who KNOW but rather listen to the Town Hall 'planning' staff who assured them that ' there would be no problem with the additional traffic, as the road infrastructure would be able to cope.' Fat lot they knew!! (Obviously none of them live anywhere near!!)[/p][/quote]There are 2 entrances/ exits onto castle lane last time I was there. Have I imagined it?[/p][/quote]I thought that but yes, you have imagined it! Because there is only one main entrance/exit on Castle Lane at Woodbury Avenue roundabout. The alternative major entrance/exit is on Yeomans Road near but not on Castle Lane. However I have always maintained a five year old with toy cars could sketch a better road layout than the one approved by the Council for here! muscliffman

3:48pm Tue 31 Dec 13

kingstonpaul says...

smhinto wrote:
I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you.
.
Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!!
.
But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time.
.
There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!!
.
One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!!
.
Regards
Oh, if only everyone were as perfect as you clearly are. Do you ever find the time for 'just being human'?
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: I was caught up in a jam on the M1 recently through no fault of my own, caused by the mindless 'brain-deads' going to the sales in Meadowhall (Sheffield). Anybody would think one would die if one missed out on the sales. This the British public for you. . Personally, if I was that desperate to go to the sales at Medowhall or anywhere else for that matter I would have left early and got there for around 0830am and out by 1100hrs to minimise and avoid the majority of the traffic. Common sense I would say, but common sense is not very common is it.!! . But no - typical in this country that everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time. . There are too many silly buggers that get up around 0930am during the sale period, has a nice cup of tea who live in a trance or in dreamland or who are out of touch with reality and then descend onto the motorway and then wonder why they are stuck, for example, in a 7mile tail back!! Then thinking to themselves - Oh look at all this traffic or Oh we did'nt think ot would be this bad !!??!! - Don't you just love the British public.!! . One encounters the same congestion on a Sunday when Asda closes at 4pm. Anybody would believe that one would die if one had no bread and milk for 16 hours or so. The mind just boggles!! . Regards[/p][/quote]Oh, if only everyone were as perfect as you clearly are. Do you ever find the time for 'just being human'? kingstonpaul

3:58pm Tue 31 Dec 13

platypus says...

This must be one the worst shopping centres in the UK,walking around it when it rains you get soaked, underneath parking you take your life in your hands with bits falling off the ceiling or rain pouring in.Pull it down it's not fit for purpose
This must be one the worst shopping centres in the UK,walking around it when it rains you get soaked, underneath parking you take your life in your hands with bits falling off the ceiling or rain pouring in.Pull it down it's not fit for purpose platypus

4:52pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Graham Rees says...

Just get in/out electronic in/out vehicle counters fitted. End of jams, this year, next year and the year after. End of story. 'Car Park full, Please try later', signs. Stop drivers jamming up car parks, going in and hunting for free space at 3 miles per hour and 1 mile per hour, outbound. Problem over.
QED!
Just get in/out electronic in/out vehicle counters fitted. End of jams, this year, next year and the year after. End of story. 'Car Park full, Please try later', signs. Stop drivers jamming up car parks, going in and hunting for free space at 3 miles per hour and 1 mile per hour, outbound. Problem over. QED! Graham Rees

5:38pm Tue 31 Dec 13

tim m says...

The only people who drive in New York are people who don't live there. Residents walk, take cabs, or ride the subway.
The only people who drive in New York are people who don't live there. Residents walk, take cabs, or ride the subway. tim m

10:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

O'Reilly says...

trolley wrote:
have you ever been to such a dump of a shopping centre?
the layout and design of the car park is absurd, its all held up by upports because it was poorly built and the road surface has rotted way.
soulless ugly place
im still amazed the place hasnt been condemned, british workmanship a its worst,
the silence around the state of the place is deafening
I don't think there were many Brits working on it.
[quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: have you ever been to such a dump of a shopping centre? the layout and design of the car park is absurd, its all held up by upports because it was poorly built and the road surface has rotted way. soulless ugly place im still amazed the place hasnt been condemned, british workmanship a its worst, the silence around the state of the place is deafening[/p][/quote]I don't think there were many Brits working on it. O'Reilly

1:53am Wed 1 Jan 14

2011simonscat2011 says...

glendower2909 wrote:
Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint...
If you write to the company and appeal it, prove that you have a blue badge, they should cancel the fine. This has happened to me before.
[quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: Went there last week with Ma in law.. She forgot to put her disabled badge on Car. Pushed her in her chair across to Asda. She opened her bag and realised that had not put badge on car. Went back and yup you guessed parking ticket. £60.00 down the pan... Would not mind if gone for hours but the parasite who put it on in the space of 2 mins max must have watched us park and seen her being pushed in chair. No xmas spirit at castlepoint...[/p][/quote]If you write to the company and appeal it, prove that you have a blue badge, they should cancel the fine. This has happened to me before. 2011simonscat2011

9:13am Wed 1 Jan 14

spooki says...

FNS-man wrote:
spooki wrote:
Peggy Babcock wrote:
trolley wrote:
And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever
...this coming from 'Trolley'!
What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops.
If you're local then presumably you walk there or go by bike, and so are unaffected by the traffic.
Yes, as I said before sometimes I drive there as I might go elsewhere then go to Castlepoint for things on the way home or on the way out. Is that ok with you?
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peggy Babcock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trolley[/bold] wrote: And this is news?sheep stuck at hideous shopping centre ? No sympathy whatsoever[/p][/quote]...this coming from 'Trolley'![/p][/quote]What about those of us who live locally and it's the most convenient place to do our grocery shopping? Are we also "sheep"? WE are the ones who get tutted at by the window/sale dawdlers while we try and fight our way in or out of shops.[/p][/quote]If you're local then presumably you walk there or go by bike, and so are unaffected by the traffic.[/p][/quote]Yes, as I said before sometimes I drive there as I might go elsewhere then go to Castlepoint for things on the way home or on the way out. Is that ok with you? spooki

8:19am Mon 6 Jan 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

An overcrowded island getting more overcrowded by the day and it is only going to get worse........
An overcrowded island getting more overcrowded by the day and it is only going to get worse........ Victor_Meldrew_Lives!

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