Plans to demolish Bournemouth’s former Royal Mail sorting office win council approval

Bournemouth Echo: GREEN LIGHT: Councillors have approved outline plans for this project GREEN LIGHT: Councillors have approved outline plans for this project

PLANS to demolish Bournemouth’s former Royal Mail sorting office and build shops and 78 apartments in its place won unanimous approval from councillors.

The town’s planning board gave the outline proposals the green light after hearing that the historic building in Albert Road will deteriorate if it continues to be left empty.

Everything except the facade will be demolished and a six-storey building will be erected in its place.

The ground floor will be a double height commercial space with three floors of apartments above and a glazed link will connect this to another building, comprising of a commercial space and five storeys of flats above.

A third section, which will also comprise six storeys, will have a very modern design.

The proposals were submitted by developer Phillip Oram and designed by Anders Roberts Associates.

Cllr David Kelsey, chair of the planning board, said: “It was an outline submission so it was pretty much an in principle decision, just saying we were happy with the style, size and nature of the development.

“We were pleased it was in keeping with the surrounding listed buildings in the area and there were no objections from people living locally or from the adjacent church.

“Like any building, if you leave it empty long enough it’s going to end up derelict and we don’t want another Cliff End Hotel.

“We try and avoid things like that because that’s not what anyone wants.”

In a statement, Oram Moss Ltd said they were pleased with the decision.

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3:14pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Redgolfer says...

Excuse me but I thought that if there was an existing building in position then the new one could not be higher or do they change planning permission to suit themselves and will not 6 storey's high look out of place in Albert Road and cast shadows on every building in the area, Brown envelopes again!!!
Excuse me but I thought that if there was an existing building in position then the new one could not be higher or do they change planning permission to suit themselves and will not 6 storey's high look out of place in Albert Road and cast shadows on every building in the area, Brown envelopes again!!! Redgolfer

3:51pm Fri 27 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

A perfect planning result for yet another high density multiple occupation building, so business as usual in the Town Hall.
A perfect planning result for yet another high density multiple occupation building, so business as usual in the Town Hall. muscliffman

4:14pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Old Colonial says...

And the car parking provision is..................
And the car parking provision is.................. Old Colonial

4:28pm Fri 27 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

It's all about raising more Council tax. Approx 70 Grand per annum. Keeps one Councillor in legitimate expenses for a year.
It's all about raising more Council tax. Approx 70 Grand per annum. Keeps one Councillor in legitimate expenses for a year. BIGTONE

4:35pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Townee says...

What happened to the outdoor boulevard cafe that they wanted. Why is it that Philip Oram seem to have his fingers in all the major developments in the town. Will the council sell him the land then lease it back for 75 years at an outrageous fee?
What happened to the outdoor boulevard cafe that they wanted. Why is it that Philip Oram seem to have his fingers in all the major developments in the town. Will the council sell him the land then lease it back for 75 years at an outrageous fee? Townee

4:38pm Fri 27 Dec 13

John T says...

Redgolfer wrote:
Excuse me but I thought that if there was an existing building in position then the new one could not be higher or do they change planning permission to suit themselves and will not 6 storey's high look out of place in Albert Road and cast shadows on every building in the area, Brown envelopes again!!!
Well, that's those brown envelopes sorted....just like the Royal Mail Sell-Off!
Oram I being too cynical?
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: Excuse me but I thought that if there was an existing building in position then the new one could not be higher or do they change planning permission to suit themselves and will not 6 storey's high look out of place in Albert Road and cast shadows on every building in the area, Brown envelopes again!!![/p][/quote]Well, that's those brown envelopes sorted....just like the Royal Mail Sell-Off! Oram I being too cynical? John T

4:54pm Fri 27 Dec 13

PokesdownMark says...

Why approve a building that already looks like it is fifty years old? It's 2014 next week. Let's have a bit of grand vision and design! This building looks like an enlarged version of the Queen Vic from Eastenders!

And parking? And energy efficiency?
Why approve a building that already looks like it is fifty years old? It's 2014 next week. Let's have a bit of grand vision and design! This building looks like an enlarged version of the Queen Vic from Eastenders! And parking? And energy efficiency? PokesdownMark

5:40pm Fri 27 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
Why approve a building that already looks like it is fifty years old? It's 2014 next week. Let's have a bit of grand vision and design! This building looks like an enlarged version of the Queen Vic from Eastenders!

And parking? And energy efficiency?
It looks old because it is well over one hundred years old, recheck the article!

The one positive in all this is the retention of that original façade - even if it is partly in front of yet another block of 'modern' small flats.
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: Why approve a building that already looks like it is fifty years old? It's 2014 next week. Let's have a bit of grand vision and design! This building looks like an enlarged version of the Queen Vic from Eastenders! And parking? And energy efficiency?[/p][/quote]It looks old because it is well over one hundred years old, recheck the article! The one positive in all this is the retention of that original façade - even if it is partly in front of yet another block of 'modern' small flats. muscliffman

6:12pm Fri 27 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

Why do I smell a backhander?
Why do I smell a backhander? mikeymagic

7:56pm Fri 27 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

It is obvious that your suspicions of corruption an conspiracy are kept amongst the chattering class.where do the people's voice stand THE PRESS .Bournemouth Echo what do you think?
It is obvious that your suspicions of corruption an conspiracy are kept amongst the chattering class.where do the people's voice stand THE PRESS .Bournemouth Echo what do you think? kalebmoledirt

8:16pm Fri 27 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

I was bought up in Bournemouth .but luckily had and
taken the opportunity to travel.so am qualified as in a layman sort of way to say Bournemouth architecture is amongst the most ordinary and boring to be found anywhere that rates itself to be an icon of gracious living .change the vision and get
in touch.Check out the north French coast
I was bought up in Bournemouth .but luckily had and taken the opportunity to travel.so am qualified as in a layman sort of way to say Bournemouth architecture is amongst the most ordinary and boring to be found anywhere that rates itself to be an icon of gracious living .change the vision and get in touch.Check out the north French coast kalebmoledirt

11:52pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Mike Pickering says...

It does look like the Queen Vic.

I do hope it doesn't rub off on any future residents, who might be tempted to burn it down to get insurance money, disrupt a crime scene or get vengeance on 'Phil'. I have a feeling many of them will be strangely drawn into arguments with each other, ending with one informing the other they were going 'AAhht!', leaving the remaining partner to scowl and slosh neat vodka into a glass and angrily drink it like it's orange bloody squash.

Also look out for awkwardly expositive conversations walking through the market.
It does look like the Queen Vic. I do hope it doesn't rub off on any future residents, who might be tempted to burn it down to get insurance money, disrupt a crime scene or get vengeance on 'Phil'. I have a feeling many of them will be strangely drawn into arguments with each other, ending with one informing the other they were going 'AAhht!', leaving the remaining partner to scowl and slosh neat vodka into a glass and angrily drink it like it's orange bloody squash. Also look out for awkwardly expositive conversations walking through the market. Mike Pickering

10:46am Sat 28 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

Build shops? Why?? Have they not seen all the empty shops in town that aren't filled because of the outrageous rates? Burton has never been occupied since it shut, nor La Senza, and there are empty unit in most of the arcades. Stop charging stupid rates and maybe people will use them. Or is the idea that they are left idle for years, and can be turned into yet more flats which may yield higher taxes? It works out at something like £320K a year to rent the old Burton shop when you add tax and rent!
Build shops? Why?? Have they not seen all the empty shops in town that aren't filled because of the outrageous rates? Burton has never been occupied since it shut, nor La Senza, and there are empty unit in most of the arcades. Stop charging stupid rates and maybe people will use them. Or is the idea that they are left idle for years, and can be turned into yet more flats which may yield higher taxes? It works out at something like £320K a year to rent the old Burton shop when you add tax and rent! speedy231278

10:48am Sat 28 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

No local objections? I live about 200 yards away and don't recall any plans being posted and my option to object being canvassed for! Where I come from in Sussex, you get posted details if you live within a certain distance and are given the right to object, rather than have to rely on spotting a tiny little sheet of A4 tied to a lamppost somewhere near the site. Which councillors are board members of Oram, I wonder?
No local objections? I live about 200 yards away and don't recall any plans being posted and my option to object being canvassed for! Where I come from in Sussex, you get posted details if you live within a certain distance and are given the right to object, rather than have to rely on spotting a tiny little sheet of A4 tied to a lamppost somewhere near the site. Which councillors are board members of Oram, I wonder? speedy231278

11:06am Sat 28 Dec 13

roguetrader666 says...

Green eyed, armchair property developers on here, making their ill informed comments from their bedsits. The town should consider themselves lucky that there are still those out there willing to take risks with their own REAL money to help the local economy.
Green eyed, armchair property developers on here, making their ill informed comments from their bedsits. The town should consider themselves lucky that there are still those out there willing to take risks with their own REAL money to help the local economy. roguetrader666

12:26pm Sat 28 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

Far too high.Will cast a shadow certainly.and with little parking a disaster.
Far too high.Will cast a shadow certainly.and with little parking a disaster. pete woodley

12:48pm Sat 28 Dec 13

nosuchluck54 says...

roguetrader666 wrote:
Green eyed, armchair property developers on here, making their ill informed comments from their bedsits. The town should consider themselves lucky that there are still those out there willing to take risks with their own REAL money to help the local economy.
I think you are over estimating those you refer to as most of them couldn't develop a cold let alone anything else
[quote][p][bold]roguetrader666[/bold] wrote: Green eyed, armchair property developers on here, making their ill informed comments from their bedsits. The town should consider themselves lucky that there are still those out there willing to take risks with their own REAL money to help the local economy.[/p][/quote]I think you are over estimating those you refer to as most of them couldn't develop a cold let alone anything else nosuchluck54

8:07pm Sat 28 Dec 13

roguetrader666 says...

Agreed. Most probably can't tie their own shoelaces and a large proportion aren't toilet trained yet. I often wonder if they read the story first before they comment. Perhaps the echo could ban words with more than five letters from their script?
Agreed. Most probably can't tie their own shoelaces and a large proportion aren't toilet trained yet. I often wonder if they read the story first before they comment. Perhaps the echo could ban words with more than five letters from their script? roguetrader666

5:14am Sun 29 Dec 13

Redgolfer says...

roguetrader666 wrote:
Agreed. Most probably can't tie their own shoelaces and a large proportion aren't toilet trained yet. I often wonder if they read the story first before they comment. Perhaps the echo could ban words with more than five letters from their script?
What's in a name roguetrader666, well you certainly have idea's that tie in with the council and is the 666 some sign of other things or is it ok as you say for some people to use their own money on land that they should never have and then lumber, dare I say it ordinary folk to pay the bill for the next 75years, yup that's using their own money, but they are helping the town, yes right, you must think that all the people are country bumpkins.
[quote][p][bold]roguetrader666[/bold] wrote: Agreed. Most probably can't tie their own shoelaces and a large proportion aren't toilet trained yet. I often wonder if they read the story first before they comment. Perhaps the echo could ban words with more than five letters from their script?[/p][/quote]What's in a name roguetrader666, well you certainly have idea's that tie in with the council and is the 666 some sign of other things or is it ok as you say for some people to use their own money on land that they should never have and then lumber, dare I say it ordinary folk to pay the bill for the next 75years, yup that's using their own money, but they are helping the town, yes right, you must think that all the people are country bumpkins. Redgolfer

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