Dorset County Council to slash more services and outsource work to find another £30million savings

Bournemouth Echo: BUDGET: County Hall, Dorchester BUDGET: County Hall, Dorchester

DORSET County Council looks set to slash more services and move to outsourcing work as part of a radical plan to find another £30million worth of savings over the next three years.

The move will see the council stripping back and focussing on priorities as it gets to grip with further cuts in public spending.

Reductions in government funding means the money DCC has to spend on services is being slashed by 43 per cent over six years.

The authority had been facing a £48million shortfall by 2016/17 – but savings of £18 million have been identified through a series of agreed projects. But it still leaves a £30million hole.

This comes on top of more than £60million which has already been trimmed from budgets over the last three years and seen the loss of 710 full time equivalent posts.

The process to close the gap further, which is likely to result in further job losses, will see DCC examining the main areas of work it does and prioritising needs while also looking at which services can be changed, provided differently, stopped altogether or outsourced.

The possibility of outsourcing services has come under fire from unions and councillors who fear the quality of service will diminish.

Achieving further savings is mapped out in a programme called Forward Together which DCC leader Spencer Flower described as the ‘most radical reform programme’ the council has faced.

He said it involved examining how the council delivers services and investigating how they can be provided in a different way on a reduced budget.

An update on Forward Together will be reported to Cabinet next Wednesday.

The report says the ‘largest risk’ is that even with cost-saving measures in place, more savings are needed.

Projects have been agreed in children’s services, adult and community services, the environment directorate and corporate resources that will make up £18m of the £48m shortfall, with £30m still to find.

Budget summaries reveal the shortfall for the coming year is more than £2m while there is a further £8.5m to be found in 2015/16 and more than £19m the following year.

What the report says...

THE report states: “There is a need for the Forward Together Board to identify at its first meeting in 2014 the priority areas of work that the council will undertake.

This needs to identify the main outcomes that the council will deliver over the next three years, whilst realising the additional £30m of savings.”

It adds: “Once the Forward Together Board has agreed the main areas of work this will form a three-year transformation plan that will deliver the required £30m savings.

“If the £30m cannot be identified and delivered then scaling would have to be imposed through budget setting. There are inherent risks to service delivery with this fall back position.”

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11:01am Sat 14 Dec 13

sea poole says...

'Forward Together...' Together-with job losses? Be careful for any jingo that includes 'together...' I think we all know what that means!
Hope DCC has had in-depth talks with Bournemouth Borough council re 'outsourcing...'
'Forward Together...' Together-with job losses? Be careful for any jingo that includes 'together...' I think we all know what that means! Hope DCC has had in-depth talks with Bournemouth Borough council re 'outsourcing...' sea poole

11:31am Sat 14 Dec 13

John T says...

sea poole wrote:
'Forward Together...' Together-with job losses? Be careful for any jingo that includes 'together...' I think we all know what that means!
Hope DCC has had in-depth talks with Bournemouth Borough council re 'outsourcing...'
Forward Together is as meaningful as We Are All In This Together.
Dorset County Council and Bournemouth Council are probably already paying private consultants to reveal the wonders of outsourcing.
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: 'Forward Together...' Together-with job losses? Be careful for any jingo that includes 'together...' I think we all know what that means! Hope DCC has had in-depth talks with Bournemouth Borough council re 'outsourcing...'[/p][/quote]Forward Together is as meaningful as We Are All In This Together. Dorset County Council and Bournemouth Council are probably already paying private consultants to reveal the wonders of outsourcing. John T

1:50pm Sat 14 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off!
In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off! muscliffman

2:28pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Tictock says...

Is outsourcing the new PFI?
Is outsourcing the new PFI? Tictock

5:40pm Sat 14 Dec 13

apm1954 says...

whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs) apm1954

6:15pm Sat 14 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories! muscliffman

7:42pm Sat 14 Dec 13

fireflier says...

If these Councils can now function with such huge reductions in cash ...... how come they couldn't find out how to do this years ago? ...... would have saved us an absolute bucketfull of money in our tax bills over the years.

Did they have managers then...years ago....or was is just cash slosh they were operating?
If these Councils can now function with such huge reductions in cash ...... how come they couldn't find out how to do this years ago? ...... would have saved us an absolute bucketfull of money in our tax bills over the years. Did they have managers then...years ago....or was is just cash slosh they were operating? fireflier

7:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

fireflier says...

apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
No we didn't vote the Tories in !!!!!
They are only there because Cleggy boy wanted a cart to ride on!!!!
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]No we didn't vote the Tories in !!!!! They are only there because Cleggy boy wanted a cart to ride on!!!! fireflier

9:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

I bet Mouchel are ready to pounce.
I bet Mouchel are ready to pounce. BIGTONE

9:34am Sun 15 Dec 13

Baysider says...

muscliffman wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then?

I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories![/p][/quote]So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then? I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble... Baysider

10:01am Sun 15 Dec 13

Squars says...

Baysider wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then?

I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...
You`ve never worked in the public sector, have you? And whose money did the reds use to `invest` in the state sector?
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories![/p][/quote]So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then? I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...[/p][/quote]You`ve never worked in the public sector, have you? And whose money did the reds use to `invest` in the state sector? Squars

11:06am Sun 15 Dec 13

elite50 says...

30 million?
How many men, leaning on shovels for 4 hours a day, does that equate?
30 million? How many men, leaning on shovels for 4 hours a day, does that equate? elite50

1:24pm Sun 15 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Baysider wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then?

I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...
Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness.

UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why!
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories![/p][/quote]So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then? I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...[/p][/quote]Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness. UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why! muscliffman

4:15pm Sun 15 Dec 13

fedupwithjobsworths says...

muscliffman wrote:
In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off!
In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off![/p][/quote]In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions! fedupwithjobsworths

5:06pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Baysider says...

muscliffman wrote:
Baysider wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then?

I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...
Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness.

UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why!
No. Our public sector, that which the Tories had not sold off to their mates and supporters in the city was run down for nearly two decades. It was hardly surprising that massive investment was required after they left office. But some chose to see this as wanton waste, indulgence and all the other emotive negative guff you come out with.

Oh and there's no self interest at work in the Tory party is there? Remind me how much George Osborne's best man made out of the recent Royal Mail fiasco?

Typical of a UKIP supporter to try to bring imigration into a discussion about Dorset CC funding.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories![/p][/quote]So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then? I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...[/p][/quote]Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness. UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why![/p][/quote]No. Our public sector, that which the Tories had not sold off to their mates and supporters in the city was run down for nearly two decades. It was hardly surprising that massive investment was required after they left office. But some chose to see this as wanton waste, indulgence and all the other emotive negative guff you come out with. Oh and there's no self interest at work in the Tory party is there? Remind me how much George Osborne's best man made out of the recent Royal Mail fiasco? Typical of a UKIP supporter to try to bring imigration into a discussion about Dorset CC funding. Baysider

5:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Baysider says...

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off!
In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions!
Your ignorance of the LA pension scheme and insistence on trotting out Daily Mail inspired clichés unfortunately negates any chance of sensible, adult discussion on the subject.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off![/p][/quote]In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions![/p][/quote]Your ignorance of the LA pension scheme and insistence on trotting out Daily Mail inspired clichés unfortunately negates any chance of sensible, adult discussion on the subject. Baysider

9:17pm Sun 15 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Baysider wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Baysider wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)
Oh if it were so simple!

The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea!

NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories!
So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then?

I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...
Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness.

UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why!
No. Our public sector, that which the Tories had not sold off to their mates and supporters in the city was run down for nearly two decades. It was hardly surprising that massive investment was required after they left office. But some chose to see this as wanton waste, indulgence and all the other emotive negative guff you come out with.

Oh and there's no self interest at work in the Tory party is there? Remind me how much George Osborne's best man made out of the recent Royal Mail fiasco?

Typical of a UKIP supporter to try to bring imigration into a discussion about Dorset CC funding.
UKIP supporter.....bring 'immigration' into the discussion......You are clearly back in your own idiot fantasy world arguing with yourself again, I do hope the weather is nice there.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: whats the problem the nation voted the tories in (mugs)[/p][/quote]Oh if it were so simple! The years of out of control spending and waste in the public sector had to be curbed for all our sakes, but to hand the decision making process about how and where to make those savings to the very same people responsible for (and partaking in) these excesses in the first place was not a good idea! NONE of the old three political Parties appears to have a clue on this issue - not just the Tories![/p][/quote]So the fact we had 18 years of Tories running down our public services before Labour got in and needed to reinvest in them to try to bring them up to 21st century standards? That has nothing to do with these "excesses" then? I'm all for people using their vote in a different way but if the answer's UKIP we are seriously in trouble...[/p][/quote]Labour's paymasters (the more militant Trade Unions) mainly survive in the public sector, which is why this sector was ridiculously indulged and expanded without restraint or reason under the last Labour Government - no other political party shares this conflict of interest - thank goodness. UKIP is an unknown but undeniably an increasingly very popular one, not just disenchanted Tories but also indigenous working class traditional Labour voters (especially in the north) are evidently now flocking to UKIP - and we all know the reasons why![/p][/quote]No. Our public sector, that which the Tories had not sold off to their mates and supporters in the city was run down for nearly two decades. It was hardly surprising that massive investment was required after they left office. But some chose to see this as wanton waste, indulgence and all the other emotive negative guff you come out with. Oh and there's no self interest at work in the Tory party is there? Remind me how much George Osborne's best man made out of the recent Royal Mail fiasco? Typical of a UKIP supporter to try to bring imigration into a discussion about Dorset CC funding.[/p][/quote]UKIP supporter.....bring 'immigration' into the discussion......You are clearly back in your own idiot fantasy world arguing with yourself again, I do hope the weather is nice there. muscliffman

9:44pm Sun 15 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Baysider wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off!
In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions!
Your ignorance of the LA pension scheme and insistence on trotting out Daily Mail inspired clichés unfortunately negates any chance of sensible, adult discussion on the subject.
"adult discussion' - the irony!

So what lump sum would an average salary private sector worker have to put aside from their lifetime earnings (whilst of course also contributing to the public sector pensions via taxes) to enable themselves to enjoy a similar salaried public sector worker's level of index linked pension benefit?

It is commonly stated at present to be in the region of quarter of a £million pounds! The public sector, the Trade Unions and the Labour Party, all in it together - and the wealth creating private sector just pays for it!
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: In it together? The one thing that will undoubtedly be happening right now is that the DCC top fat-cats will be working on every which way to preserve their own positions, salaries, pensions and perks at the expense of anything and anybody they can get rid off![/p][/quote]In it together - certainly not our Council Employees with their virtually non-contribution gold plated, index linked pensions![/p][/quote]Your ignorance of the LA pension scheme and insistence on trotting out Daily Mail inspired clichés unfortunately negates any chance of sensible, adult discussion on the subject.[/p][/quote]"adult discussion' - the irony! So what lump sum would an average salary private sector worker have to put aside from their lifetime earnings (whilst of course also contributing to the public sector pensions via taxes) to enable themselves to enjoy a similar salaried public sector worker's level of index linked pension benefit? It is commonly stated at present to be in the region of quarter of a £million pounds! The public sector, the Trade Unions and the Labour Party, all in it together - and the wealth creating private sector just pays for it! muscliffman

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