Police investigation launched into New Forest's mass cycling events

Bournemouth Echo: Police investigation launched into New Forest's mass cycling events Police investigation launched into New Forest's mass cycling events

POLICE have launched an investigation into mass cycling events in the New Forest, it has been revealed.

They are looking into allegations that the controversial Wiggle rides, which have attracted as many as 2,500 entrants, are breaking the law by causing a public nuisance.

The revelation was made at a meeting of the National Park Authority (NPA), which is devising a cycling charter to tackle the issue.

Members complained that cyclists were racing on the public highway, defecating on village greens and shouting abuse at anyone who got in their way.

Maureen Holding said: “I was driving through Brockenhurst at 30mph and was overtaken by cyclists.

“Police say the events aren’t races but the riders are timed and given gold, silver or bronze medals according to how fast they went.

“Some of them go very fast and it’s only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle.

“I’m not anti-cycling but these big, money-making events are getting out of control. The problem has not been managed, it’s simply being looked at in retrospect.”

Oliver Crosthwaite Eyre said the speed and behaviour of the cyclists, coupled with the frequency of the events, was causing “enormous upset” in the Forest.

Members spoke out after being addressed by Peter Roberts, chairman of the New Forest Association.

He said: “The activity is clearly a race, either against the clock or fellow competitors – whatever name is given to it by the commercial organisers.

“A complaint has been submitted to the police regarding public nuisance.”

A 1993 court case was cited, in which a landowner convicted of causing a public nuisance was fined £2,500 with £1,500 costs.

The head of New Forest police, Chief Inspector Tony Rowlinson, said the cycling complaint was being investigated by a senior officer.

He added: “The prosecuting authority is the Crown Prosecution Service and we will look to them for a steer.”

NPA member David Harrison hit out at what he described as the “anti-cycling” stance adopted by some of his colleagues.

He said: “We should be actively promoting and supporting responsible cycling, a much enjoyed, largely peaceful activity that’s a positive for the Forest, not a negative.”

Wiggle organiser Martin Barden was unavailable for comment.

Last month he said he had listened to concerns raised by residents and imposed a 20 per cent cut in the number of cyclists allowed to take part in the 2014 events.

He also confirmed that motorbike marshals would patrol the route and instantly disqualify any rider seen to be behaving badly.

He said: “While we know our events are run 100 per cent within the current guidelines we hope the adjustments will ease any local tensions.”

Organisers of the New Forest Show have banned mass cycling events from using their land at New Park, Brockenhurst, following criticism of the Wiggle rides.

Mr Barden has now asked Fawley Parish Council for permission to use Gang Warily Recreation Ground.

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8:34am Fri 13 Dec 13

Moro99 says...

Once the accidents that might happen have been investigated, I hope they still have resources to investigate the accidents that do happen regularly through speeding cars and poor driving , killing people and animals.
Once the accidents that might happen have been investigated, I hope they still have resources to investigate the accidents that do happen regularly through speeding cars and poor driving , killing people and animals. Moro99

8:46am Fri 13 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle'
I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars?
......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle' I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars? jobsworthwatch

8:55am Fri 13 Dec 13

Ash_69 says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle'
I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars?
That's juts nature at work.

People getting out on bikes, enjoying freedoms, getting fit and having a nice time should not be allowed.

The forest is not there for your enjoyment, it is there for horse riders & hunts. It was set up as a hunting ground and should remain so. All other activities should be approved by the hunt masters first.
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: ......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle' I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars?[/p][/quote]That's juts nature at work. People getting out on bikes, enjoying freedoms, getting fit and having a nice time should not be allowed. The forest is not there for your enjoyment, it is there for horse riders & hunts. It was set up as a hunting ground and should remain so. All other activities should be approved by the hunt masters first. Ash_69

9:03am Fri 13 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

Ash_69 wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle'
I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars?
That's juts nature at work.

People getting out on bikes, enjoying freedoms, getting fit and having a nice time should not be allowed.

The forest is not there for your enjoyment, it is there for horse riders & hunts. It was set up as a hunting ground and should remain so. All other activities should be approved by the hunt masters first.
Joke of the week.
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: ......'only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle' I thought it was the New Forrest Ponies that are routinely hit and killed by cars?[/p][/quote]That's juts nature at work. People getting out on bikes, enjoying freedoms, getting fit and having a nice time should not be allowed. The forest is not there for your enjoyment, it is there for horse riders & hunts. It was set up as a hunting ground and should remain so. All other activities should be approved by the hunt masters first.[/p][/quote]Joke of the week. pete woodley

9:07am Fri 13 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way! suzigirl

9:14am Fri 13 Dec 13

Franks Tank says...

And why aren't the police investigating who spread tacks and slurry on the road or who tried to vandalise the events by tearing down direction signs?
And why aren't the police investigating who spread tacks and slurry on the road or who tried to vandalise the events by tearing down direction signs? Franks Tank

9:23am Fri 13 Dec 13

bmthtony says...

are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.
are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit. bmthtony

9:34am Fri 13 Dec 13

Ash_69 says...

suzigirl wrote:
The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law.

So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing. Ash_69

9:54am Fri 13 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

suzigirl wrote:
The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up. jobsworthwatch

10:16am Fri 13 Dec 13

In Absentia says...

This is the usual nimby nonsense from people in the New Forest area. A total waste of limited Police resources.
This is the usual nimby nonsense from people in the New Forest area. A total waste of limited Police resources. In Absentia

10:49am Fri 13 Dec 13

Gooby! says...

It seems that road based events are to be "outlawed" by the nimbys. Let's see about organising some off road/ cross country events.
It seems that road based events are to be "outlawed" by the nimbys. Let's see about organising some off road/ cross country events. Gooby!

11:00am Fri 13 Dec 13

black_rat says...

If anyone is hurt the Police can use this law:
Section 35 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861
"Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years ..."
If anyone is hurt the Police can use this law: Section 35 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861 "Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years ..." black_rat

11:14am Fri 13 Dec 13

Franks Tank says...

bmthtony wrote:
are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.
In short "no".
The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists.
Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road.
Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in).
[quote][p][bold]bmthtony[/bold] wrote: are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.[/p][/quote]In short "no". The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists. Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road. Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in). Franks Tank

11:46am Fri 13 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up.
The subject is about cyclists in the New Forest not motorists!
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up.[/p][/quote]The subject is about cyclists in the New Forest not motorists! suzigirl

11:49am Fri 13 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists!
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.[/p][/quote]Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists! suzigirl

11:51am Fri 13 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

“Some of them go very fast and it’s only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle.

Why an old person they may pick on a pony.
“Some of them go very fast and it’s only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle. Why an old person they may pick on a pony. Lord Spring

11:52am Fri 13 Dec 13

Pierce LegStout says...

As a New Forest resident I find these rants against cyclist quite disturbing. The article and the quotes seem a little 'exagerated'.

Overtaken whilst driving at 30mph? I doubt it!

Given gold, silver or bronze medals. Not true: all finishing medals are identical (I have one!).

"Enormous upset" in the forest. Only a few NIMBYs getting their knickers in a twist because of a couple of minutes delay.

Lets face it - its change people are objecting to.
As a New Forest resident I find these rants against cyclist quite disturbing. The article and the quotes seem a little 'exagerated'. Overtaken whilst driving at 30mph? I doubt it! Given gold, silver or bronze medals. Not true: all finishing medals are identical (I have one!). "Enormous upset" in the forest. Only a few NIMBYs getting their knickers in a twist because of a couple of minutes delay. Lets face it - its change people are objecting to. Pierce LegStout

11:58am Fri 13 Dec 13

Richard of Wantage says...

It must be the silly season again! Or is it the silly season all the time in the New Forest?

Some people need to wakeup and get a life, I've never heard such ridiculous rubbish!
It must be the silly season again! Or is it the silly season all the time in the New Forest? Some people need to wakeup and get a life, I've never heard such ridiculous rubbish! Richard of Wantage

11:58am Fri 13 Dec 13

nothingtofear says...

Franks Tank wrote:
bmthtony wrote:
are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.
In short "no".
The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists.
Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road.
Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in).
The other laws that you spoke of may apply in theory but in practice they are routinely disregarded by cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthtony[/bold] wrote: are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.[/p][/quote]In short "no". The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists. Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road. Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in).[/p][/quote]The other laws that you spoke of may apply in theory but in practice they are routinely disregarded by cyclists. nothingtofear

12:17pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Richard of Wantage says...

suzigirl wrote:
Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists!
I see what you are saying. The Lycra clad mob are the modern day Rockers, who race up and down the high street on their noisy cycles, hanging out at transport cafes in aggressive looking mobs, have greasy hair style, wearing skull and crossbones motifs on their cycle shirts, listening to 1950's Rock and Roll music though their headphones and starting fights with motorists. What is to come of the youth of today?
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.[/p][/quote]Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists![/p][/quote]I see what you are saying. The Lycra clad mob are the modern day Rockers, who race up and down the high street on their noisy cycles, hanging out at transport cafes in aggressive looking mobs, have greasy hair style, wearing skull and crossbones motifs on their cycle shirts, listening to 1950's Rock and Roll music though their headphones and starting fights with motorists. What is to come of the youth of today? Richard of Wantage

12:21pm Fri 13 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

suzigirl wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up.
The subject is about cyclists in the New Forest not motorists!
And its the motorist that is the real problem. How many ponies killed by cyclists; how many pedestrians killed by cyclists? Read it again and try and visualise the 'greater picture'.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]What utter rubbish, it's the motorists that are dishing out the death and destruction. Oh, and at least 60 animals killed by acorns this year. Why don't the complainers do something useful and get out there and either chop down the oak trees that are producing the acorns or at least clear them up.[/p][/quote]The subject is about cyclists in the New Forest not motorists![/p][/quote]And its the motorist that is the real problem. How many ponies killed by cyclists; how many pedestrians killed by cyclists? Read it again and try and visualise the 'greater picture'. jobsworthwatch

12:34pm Fri 13 Dec 13

That's Bonkers! says...

Don't forget to mention the extra pollution of 2500 cars arriving into the forest to drop off the cyclists, then I presume they drive through the forest to the finish point?

Would this be classed as a 'Low carbon sport'?

Forests are for trees!
Trees are forever! (or we all perish)
Don't forget to mention the extra pollution of 2500 cars arriving into the forest to drop off the cyclists, then I presume they drive through the forest to the finish point? Would this be classed as a 'Low carbon sport'? Forests are for trees! Trees are forever! (or we all perish) That's Bonkers!

1:02pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ranger_bob says...

That's Bonkers! wrote:
Don't forget to mention the extra pollution of 2500 cars arriving into the forest to drop off the cyclists, then I presume they drive through the forest to the finish point?

Would this be classed as a 'Low carbon sport'?

Forests are for trees!
Trees are forever! (or we all perish)
In that case we had better ban ALL vehicles from the Forest then. Also all of the livestock on the Forest better be removed as well as they produce far more carbon than vehicles do.
[quote][p][bold]That's Bonkers![/bold] wrote: Don't forget to mention the extra pollution of 2500 cars arriving into the forest to drop off the cyclists, then I presume they drive through the forest to the finish point? Would this be classed as a 'Low carbon sport'? Forests are for trees! Trees are forever! (or we all perish)[/p][/quote]In that case we had better ban ALL vehicles from the Forest then. Also all of the livestock on the Forest better be removed as well as they produce far more carbon than vehicles do. ranger_bob

2:10pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Ash_69 says...

suzigirl wrote:
Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists!
Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig
irl

Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists.

You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive.

Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion.

The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.[/p][/quote]Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists![/p][/quote]Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig irl Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists. You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive. Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion. The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway. Ash_69

2:56pm Fri 13 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists!
Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig irl Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists. You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive. Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion. The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway.
Well said.

I was surprised by the level of hypocrisy shown as well.

Time and again these people shoe horn their (bizarre and rather 'weird') anti-cycling diatribe.

(I don't even cycle - maybe twice a year - and I think they talk crap).

In addition to the Motor Scooter another example was the thread on Parkstone High Street and a motorist had written in complaining about pedestrians (always someone else’s fault I note) and Suzigirl dragged in about cyclists on pavements.

“Dangerous drivers using our village as a racetrack, say residents” was another one – about bad car drivers and her contribution was all about motorcyclists.
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.[/p][/quote]Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists![/p][/quote]Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig irl Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists. You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive. Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion. The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway.[/p][/quote]Well said. I was surprised by the level of hypocrisy shown as well. Time and again these people shoe horn their (bizarre and rather 'weird') anti-cycling diatribe. (I don't even cycle - maybe twice a year - and I think they talk crap). In addition to the Motor Scooter another example was the thread on Parkstone High Street and a motorist had written in complaining about pedestrians (always someone else’s fault I note) and Suzigirl dragged in about cyclists on pavements. “Dangerous drivers using our village as a racetrack, say residents” was another one – about bad car drivers and her contribution was all about motorcyclists. scrumpyjack

3:01pm Fri 13 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Ash_69 wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!
You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.
Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists!
Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig irl Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists. You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive. Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion. The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway.
YAWNNNNNNNNNN change the record mate it is getting boring now! So the NPA are liars as well then! Obviously you don't get out much. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to my opnion - end of! Can't wait to get my leathers on this weekend and go for a nice leisurely ride on a motorbike...........
............what will you be doing - curtain twitching?
[quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ash_69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The problem is it is not "Joe Public" going out for a leisurely cycle with their family in the Forest. It is the lycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way![/p][/quote]You get morons all the time. Have you ever been out on the roads towards Wiltshire on a Sunday and never felt intimidated by the motorcyclists who all seem to be turning a blind eye to the law. So shall we tar all motorcyclists with the same brush as those morons? You seem quite happy to tar all the people who ride a road bike in lycra as racing.[/p][/quote]Which is what happens at these events in the New Forest - read the article properly before commenting - the article is about cyclists not motorcyclists![/p][/quote]Pot-Kettle-Black eh Heather/Hammer/Suzig irl Er what comments did you put on the article about mobility scooters, oh about cyclists. You are a fine one to talk. Ready to throw your rubbish around when it suits you but if you are on the other foot (oh the poor innocent motorcyclists) then you come out all defensive. Again when I read the article what I actually see is a story that has been twisted. Perhaps one of the NPA/NFED mob have made a complaint to the police, and do you know what they are doing their duty by investigating it. I doubt it is anything more than that, but with the right words a non-event can be blown out of all proportion. The we have your inflammatory (again) comments, suddenly trying to distort the picture with your comments of "ycra clad mob racing through the Forest in their usual fashion abusing law abiding motorists and walkers and the like if they dare get in their way!". Change the record, we all know it's not true but out you spurt it anyway.[/p][/quote]YAWNNNNNNNNNN change the record mate it is getting boring now! So the NPA are liars as well then! Obviously you don't get out much. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to my opnion - end of! Can't wait to get my leathers on this weekend and go for a nice leisurely ride on a motorbike........... ............what will you be doing - curtain twitching? suzigirl

11:17pm Fri 13 Dec 13

sprintervanman says...

Would be interested to know why no complaints have been made about the Grid Iron cycling event held within the New Forest in October which also is completed by many cyclists.Is it because it is out of season and the Forest welcomes cyclists in mass to pump a few pounds into the local community after the Summer Holiday tourists have gone.
Would be interested to know why no complaints have been made about the Grid Iron cycling event held within the New Forest in October which also is completed by many cyclists.Is it because it is out of season and the Forest welcomes cyclists in mass to pump a few pounds into the local community after the Summer Holiday tourists have gone. sprintervanman

8:49pm Sat 14 Dec 13

paul.p says...

Been waiting for something like this for years....
Been waiting for something like this for years.... paul.p

4:18pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Franks Tank says...

nothingtofear wrote:
Franks Tank wrote:
bmthtony wrote:
are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.
In short "no".
The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists.
Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road.
Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in).
The other laws that you spoke of may apply in theory but in practice they are routinely disregarded by cyclists.
nothingtofear AND nothing constructive to say either.
[quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthtony[/bold] wrote: are cyclists subject to the same speed limits as cars when on the roads? Stick a few speed checks along the route, should stop them racing and become more of a "leisure" pursuit.[/p][/quote]In short "no". The speed limits on road are for motorised vehicles unless there is a specific bylaw that applies it to cyclists. Also, the speed limits indicated at the side of the road are for cars in particular. Different speed limits may apply to vans, lorries and towing vehicles depending on the type of road. Of course other laws regarding the use of the highway do apply (before the trolls chip in).[/p][/quote]The other laws that you spoke of may apply in theory but in practice they are routinely disregarded by cyclists.[/p][/quote]nothingtofear AND nothing constructive to say either. Franks Tank

2:56pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Reconciler says...

The Gridiron has, I believe, about 1,000 participants, as opposed to nearly 3,000 in Wiggle sportives. It is not confined to a set route, but the riders navigate themselves between check points and do not form big groups which block the narrow lanes.. It is not raced against the clock. It therefore passes off with the minimum of disturbance to the normal activities of the Forest, without the aggression caused by big blocks of competitive riders.. Courtesy between other road users and the Gridiron riders is normal and pleasant. This is how it should be - the Forest used for quiet recreation, with the time to appreciate its special qualities.
The Gridiron has, I believe, about 1,000 participants, as opposed to nearly 3,000 in Wiggle sportives. It is not confined to a set route, but the riders navigate themselves between check points and do not form big groups which block the narrow lanes.. It is not raced against the clock. It therefore passes off with the minimum of disturbance to the normal activities of the Forest, without the aggression caused by big blocks of competitive riders.. Courtesy between other road users and the Gridiron riders is normal and pleasant. This is how it should be - the Forest used for quiet recreation, with the time to appreciate its special qualities. Reconciler

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