New cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reduced on-street parking to ease congestion in Boscombe

Bournemouth Echo: LAUNCH: Cllr Michael Filer, centre, with members of the Three Towns Travel team LAUNCH: Cllr Michael Filer, centre, with members of the Three Towns Travel team

NEW cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking will help reduce congestion in the Boscombe East area of Bournemouth, it is claimed.

A stretch of Christchurch Road between Southbourne Road and Exton Road is the next in line for improvements under the Three Towns Travel programme.

Residents and businesses are being invited to have their say on a range of proposals that aim to improve cycling, walking and bus facilities.

They include new segregated cycle lanes, raised crossing points for pedestrians across side roads, a new signal-controlled crossing point at the junction of Exton Road, upgraded street lighting, enhanced bus stops and the removal of on-street parking between Warnford Road and Exton Road.

Residents in the Warnford and Exton Road areas are being contacted separately to ensure they are aware of the potential loss of parking spaces.

Cllr Michael Filer, cabinet member for transport, said: “Three Towns Travel is about providing people with easier, safer and more attractive travel options whilst reducing congestion on our road network.

“The stretch of Christchurch Road between Southbourne Road and Exton Road serves many local residents and businesses as well as commuters.

“By making improvements now, we will have a good infrastructure in place for the future, enabling people to travel more easily.

“This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.”

The proposals and questionnaire are available online at threetownstravel.co.uk and people have until January 3 to have their say. Work is set to start in February.

Funds will help councils

Three Towns Travel is a £12million scheme for Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch which aims to make it easier and safer for people to travel between the three towns.

The money has come from a national £560m fund called the Local Sustainable Transport Fund, which is designed to help councils support the local economy and reduce carbon emissions.

The three councils competed with 12 other local authorities for the funding.

Other Three Towns Travel projects include Horseshoe Common, the Royal Bournemouth Hospital, Boscombe Precinct, North Road, Ashley Road, Somerford Road and Barrack Road.

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7:50am Thu 12 Dec 13

rayc says...

If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.
If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking. rayc

8:14am Thu 12 Dec 13

Huey says...

The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach:
A. Install traffic lights
B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally
Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years:
1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed
2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards
3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way
4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards
5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed
Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse.
From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next.
The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach: A. Install traffic lights B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years: 1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed 2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards 3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way 4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards 5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse. From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next. Huey

8:25am Thu 12 Dec 13

djd says...

If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing.
Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand.
Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.
If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing. Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand. Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean. djd

8:29am Thu 12 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

So, take away on street parking and drive more people to out of town centers, yep, sounds like a great plan to regenerate an area, take away on street parking to make roads wider and avoid congestion and then narrow them again with cycle lanes, great plan.
In effect this plan drive away people who would need the car to take home tons of shopping and attracts cyclists who couldn't, Great plan.
So, take away on street parking and drive more people to out of town centers, yep, sounds like a great plan to regenerate an area, take away on street parking to make roads wider and avoid congestion and then narrow them again with cycle lanes, great plan. In effect this plan drive away people who would need the car to take home tons of shopping and attracts cyclists who couldn't, Great plan. Hessenford

9:12am Thu 12 Dec 13

Roginthesouth says...

“This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” Really?
These are just current marketing style words which sound great but have very little meaning, as does 'infrastructure" in this particular context.
I agree removal of on-street parking will improve the traffic flow on Chritchurch Road, but cars themselves don't disappear, they just move to local side roads and cause further bottlenecks and problems for householders.
I fail to recognise how any of the proposals will remove carbon emissions, or improve the environment.
“This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” Really? These are just current marketing style words which sound great but have very little meaning, as does 'infrastructure" in this particular context. I agree removal of on-street parking will improve the traffic flow on Chritchurch Road, but cars themselves don't disappear, they just move to local side roads and cause further bottlenecks and problems for householders. I fail to recognise how any of the proposals will remove carbon emissions, or improve the environment. Roginthesouth

10:00am Thu 12 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

djd wrote:
If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing.
Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand.
Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.
I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality.
Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved .


Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing. Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand. Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.[/p][/quote]I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality. Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved . Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers Lord Spring

10:31am Thu 12 Dec 13

skydriver says...

More time and energy being spent on Boscombe , I can't see why,
I have said before the only way is a total rebuild.
More time and energy being spent on Boscombe , I can't see why, I have said before the only way is a total rebuild. skydriver

10:35am Thu 12 Dec 13

Redgolfer says...

Huey wrote:
The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach:
A. Install traffic lights
B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally
Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years:
1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed
2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards
3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way
4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards
5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed
Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse.
From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next.
Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach: A. Install traffic lights B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years: 1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed 2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards 3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way 4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards 5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse. From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next.[/p][/quote]Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe. Redgolfer

10:36am Thu 12 Dec 13

Redgolfer says...

Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe.
Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe. Redgolfer

11:01am Thu 12 Dec 13

Huey says...

Redgolfer wrote:
Huey wrote: The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach: A. Install traffic lights B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years: 1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed 2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards 3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way 4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards 5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse. From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next.
Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe.
Boscombe road should have read Boscombe SPA road. I used to live there actually, very nice.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: The council themselves are responsible for most of the congestion. Their whole strategy is based on a two pronged approach: A. Install traffic lights B. Close the road to traffic one way or totally Here is an example of this, all of which has happened in the last 8-10 years: 1 - Boscombe Rd/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed 2 - Wharncliffe Rd/Xch rdm - Now totally closed off with bollards 3 - Adeline Rd/Xch road - now one way 4 - Roumelia Lane/Xch Rd - Now totally closed off with bollards 5 - Crabton Close/Xch Rd - traffic lights installed Their ideas to ease congestion invariable makes things worse. From the looks of their plans, Boscombe East is next.[/p][/quote]Huey, agree when you say another waste of money but then everything '' blusterer Filer'' has anything to do with normally is but can you help me out, where is Boscombe Rd, never heard of that one, Wharncliffe Rd is shut off because of the Horrific Accident a bit back where somebody lost their life and when they say that there will be a reduction on carbon emission, how come as it is the main road from Christchurch to Boscombe.[/p][/quote]Boscombe road should have read Boscombe SPA road. I used to live there actually, very nice. Huey

11:08am Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
djd wrote:
If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing.
Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand.
Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.
I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality.
Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved .


Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers
Dad Army no doubt :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing. Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand. Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.[/p][/quote]I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality. Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved . Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers[/p][/quote]Dad Army no doubt :) retry69

11:47am Thu 12 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
djd wrote:
If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing.
Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand.
Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.
I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality.
Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved .


Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers
Dad Army no doubt :)
Don't Panic !!!
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing. Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand. Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.[/p][/quote]I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality. Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved . Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers[/p][/quote]Dad Army no doubt :)[/p][/quote]Don't Panic !!! Lord Spring

12:01pm Thu 12 Dec 13

beachcomber1 says...

cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL

cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes.

but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points.

just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well?

don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for. beachcomber1

12:03pm Thu 12 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money! suzigirl

12:09pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Lord Spring wrote:
djd wrote:
If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing.
Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand.
Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.
I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality.
Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved .


Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers
Installing a crossing at Exton Road will increase congestion on Iford Roundabout.....in regards to a cycle lane put it on the pavement it is wide enough to be segregated.

This ind of change to a massive artery of Bournemouth should be put out to conusltation to the whole town.

Removing parking spaces will not help anyone.....there are a number of guest houses along that stretch, do they expect holidaymakers to walk (or cycle) with their luggage.

Rather than the Cllrs being told what to do by idiotic officers who don't know the first thing about anything, they should stand up and review the proposal.

The Council won't install a single set of traffic lights at the junction of Holdenhurst Avenue and Castle Lane becuase there is no money, yet they can install a set of pedestrian lights where they aren't needed.

I urge the residents of Littledown and Iford to contact their councillors to voice their opinions.

Some of the trees on Christchurch Road could be taken down to create parking spaces, but in some ways having cars parked their slows the traffic down.

That'll be the next one they'll stop the parking then install speed cameras :-)

Bring on the abuse!
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: If it gets rid of that bottle neck between Warnford Road and Exton Road then it can only be a good thing. Why there is unrestricted parking along such a busy stretch of a major road, I could never understand. Like any other scheme, it's only a piecemeal solution to the problem. Why not extend it further both ways along Christchurch Road, anyone who drives along that stretch of road understands what I mean.[/p][/quote]I seem to think that pavements are wide enough for the road to be widen in that locality. Remove the trees that are along the road they are not exactly preserved . Have now placed my tin hat on, to ward off from incoming from tree huggers[/p][/quote]Installing a crossing at Exton Road will increase congestion on Iford Roundabout.....in regards to a cycle lane put it on the pavement it is wide enough to be segregated. This ind of change to a massive artery of Bournemouth should be put out to conusltation to the whole town. Removing parking spaces will not help anyone.....there are a number of guest houses along that stretch, do they expect holidaymakers to walk (or cycle) with their luggage. Rather than the Cllrs being told what to do by idiotic officers who don't know the first thing about anything, they should stand up and review the proposal. The Council won't install a single set of traffic lights at the junction of Holdenhurst Avenue and Castle Lane becuase there is no money, yet they can install a set of pedestrian lights where they aren't needed. I urge the residents of Littledown and Iford to contact their councillors to voice their opinions. Some of the trees on Christchurch Road could be taken down to create parking spaces, but in some ways having cars parked their slows the traffic down. That'll be the next one they'll stop the parking then install speed cameras :-) Bring on the abuse! bobthedestroyer

12:12pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Why is the consulatation only online....ignoring those residents who do not have internet access....this should have been a leaflet drop for the ward and Christchurch residents
Why is the consulatation only online....ignoring those residents who do not have internet access....this should have been a leaflet drop for the ward and Christchurch residents bobthedestroyer

12:12pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Why is the consulatation only online....ignoring those residents who do not have internet access....this should have been a leaflet drop for the ward and Christchurch residents
Why is the consulatation only online....ignoring those residents who do not have internet access....this should have been a leaflet drop for the ward and Christchurch residents bobthedestroyer

12:14pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

When I went to threetownstravel.co.
uk it just took me to the Bournemouth Council homepage....I eventually found it under this link http://ht.ly/rD7uJ Hopefully it works!!
When I went to threetownstravel.co. uk it just took me to the Bournemouth Council homepage....I eventually found it under this link http://ht.ly/rD7uJ Hopefully it works!! bobthedestroyer

12:17pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Echo - please update story to reflect a better URL www.bournemouth.gov.
uk/threetownstravel
Echo - please update story to reflect a better URL www.bournemouth.gov. uk/threetownstravel bobthedestroyer

12:56pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Poole Pirate says...

rayc wrote:
If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.
Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better !
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.[/p][/quote]Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better ! Poole Pirate

1:04pm Thu 12 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

In a word 'anti-motorist'.

Every traffic scheme Bournemouth Council has been involved in over several years has added to safety problems, driven business away and increased congestion. Sounds like more of the same - this time coming to Boscombe. But do note the "raised crossing points for pedestrians across side roads", because we used to call them speed humps!

Whilst the hapless old fashioned Council speak statement "By making improvements now, we will have a good infrastructure in place for the future, enabling people to travel more easily. This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” by Councillor Filer about sums up where all these problem with transport in the Town emanate from - time for some urgent changes!
In a word 'anti-motorist'. Every traffic scheme Bournemouth Council has been involved in over several years has added to safety problems, driven business away and increased congestion. Sounds like more of the same - this time coming to Boscombe. But do note the "raised crossing points for pedestrians across side roads", because we used to call them speed humps! Whilst the hapless old fashioned Council speak statement "By making improvements now, we will have a good infrastructure in place for the future, enabling people to travel more easily. This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” by Councillor Filer about sums up where all these problem with transport in the Town emanate from - time for some urgent changes! muscliffman

1:06pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
rayc wrote:
If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.
Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better !
Agree with Poole Pirate....unfortunat
ely they are invariably not properly thought-out....the new Richmond Hill design being one example.

Installing more traffic lights is counter-intuitve to me in the area concerned, they will just increase congestion as it will be start stop all the way down to Iford Roundabout.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.[/p][/quote]Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better ![/p][/quote]Agree with Poole Pirate....unfortunat ely they are invariably not properly thought-out....the new Richmond Hill design being one example. Installing more traffic lights is counter-intuitve to me in the area concerned, they will just increase congestion as it will be start stop all the way down to Iford Roundabout. bobthedestroyer

1:09pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

muscliffman wrote:
In a word 'anti-motorist'.

Every traffic scheme Bournemouth Council has been involved in over several years has added to safety problems, driven business away and increased congestion. Sounds like more of the same - this time coming to Boscombe. But do note the "raised crossing points for pedestrians across side roads", because we used to call them speed humps!

Whilst the hapless old fashioned Council speak statement "By making improvements now, we will have a good infrastructure in place for the future, enabling people to travel more easily. This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” by Councillor Filer about sums up where all these problem with transport in the Town emanate from - time for some urgent changes!
I've viewed the doucment online....they have recently made "improvements to the Kimng's Park Drive entrance and the junction of Harewood Avenue and Christchurch Road......they now want to come along and change it all again.....this is a waste of taxpayers money and should be scrutinised...I know things change but this is incompetent planning by council employees and councillors.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: In a word 'anti-motorist'. Every traffic scheme Bournemouth Council has been involved in over several years has added to safety problems, driven business away and increased congestion. Sounds like more of the same - this time coming to Boscombe. But do note the "raised crossing points for pedestrians across side roads", because we used to call them speed humps! Whilst the hapless old fashioned Council speak statement "By making improvements now, we will have a good infrastructure in place for the future, enabling people to travel more easily. This will mean less congestion, better air quality and few carbon emissions impacting on our environment.” by Councillor Filer about sums up where all these problem with transport in the Town emanate from - time for some urgent changes![/p][/quote]I've viewed the doucment online....they have recently made "improvements to the Kimng's Park Drive entrance and the junction of Harewood Avenue and Christchurch Road......they now want to come along and change it all again.....this is a waste of taxpayers money and should be scrutinised...I know things change but this is incompetent planning by council employees and councillors. bobthedestroyer

1:10pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Poole Pirate says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so. Poole Pirate

1:11pm Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo
int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers. retry69

1:14pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo

int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all bobthedestroyer

1:16pm Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears. retry69

1:18pm Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo


int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
A bit extreme, you are obviously not taking the issue serious :)
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]A bit extreme, you are obviously not taking the issue serious :) retry69

1:23pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

retry69 wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears.
Since when has the Echo Comments section been about sense......
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears.[/p][/quote]Since when has the Echo Comments section been about sense...... bobthedestroyer

1:25pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Poole Pirate says...

suzigirl wrote:
More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?. Poole Pirate

1:31pm Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears.
Since when has the Echo Comments section been about sense......
Ok you win, cant argue with that :)
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]You talk sense, unfortunately the majority of commenters who appear on here are politically motivated and despite your views being well balanced and 100% accurate they will fall on deaf but biased ears.[/p][/quote]Since when has the Echo Comments section been about sense......[/p][/quote]Ok you win, cant argue with that :) retry69

1:31pm Thu 12 Dec 13

beachcomber1 says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
I do actually agree with you, in theory.

However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct.

Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way. beachcomber1

1:33pm Thu 12 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo


int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs.

Perfect!
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs. Perfect! muscliffman

1:37pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me)

Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else.

I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident)

Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver.

Both complete idiots.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots. bobthedestroyer

1:39pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

muscliffman wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo



int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs.

Perfect!
I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) )
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs. Perfect![/p][/quote]I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) ) bobthedestroyer

1:50pm Thu 12 Dec 13

retry69 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo




int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs.

Perfect!
I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) )
NO NO NO will you please keep up,look at the other thread about the speed fest, Bournemouth is going to be the alternative F1 track to Silverstone its made for it,the Monte Carlo of the south,have vision dear heart have vision
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs. Perfect![/p][/quote]I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) )[/p][/quote]NO NO NO will you please keep up,look at the other thread about the speed fest, Bournemouth is going to be the alternative F1 track to Silverstone its made for it,the Monte Carlo of the south,have vision dear heart have vision retry69

1:56pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Poole Pirate says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.
And a world where probably 100% of all motorists exceed the speed limit at some point on every journey they make. If any motorist can honestly say that they always abide by the speed limits, I salute you - appologies in advance !!
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.[/p][/quote]And a world where probably 100% of all motorists exceed the speed limit at some point on every journey they make. If any motorist can honestly say that they always abide by the speed limits, I salute you - appologies in advance !! Poole Pirate

2:23pm Thu 12 Dec 13

skydriver says...

Has anyone noticed the picture? they are on double yellow lines, now if that had been anyone else the camera car would have picked up on that, so to all you councillors out there on your away day with a package of pixie dust ...........get real, get back in your office and do some real work, rather than a need for a photo shoot.
Has anyone noticed the picture? they are on double yellow lines, now if that had been anyone else the camera car would have picked up on that, so to all you councillors out there on your away day with a package of pixie dust ...........get real, get back in your office and do some real work, rather than a need for a photo shoot. skydriver

2:33pm Thu 12 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo




int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs.

Perfect!
I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) )
Plan? They have actually been trialling the drug/drink rehab hub idea for years in Boscombe. A nice little earner for a few, which is why nothing there ever really changes, apart from a costly lick of designer paint, expensive plants and now this load of old fashioned useless transport tat.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]Absoultely, it seems these are Councillor Filer's dreams come true, close the roads, raise parking charges, pave everything, confuse the cyclists, let all the businesses close and you completely get rid of the plebs. Perfect![/p][/quote]I know what the plan is, turn Bournemouth into the drug/drink rehab hub of the entire Country, reminds me of Johnny English when they wanted to turn the UK into one big prison (never a truer word spoken in jest :) )[/p][/quote]Plan? They have actually been trialling the drug/drink rehab hub idea for years in Boscombe. A nice little earner for a few, which is why nothing there ever really changes, apart from a costly lick of designer paint, expensive plants and now this load of old fashioned useless transport tat. muscliffman

3:01pm Thu 12 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
I do actually agree with you, in theory.

However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct.

Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.
It's time that law was repealed, all pavements should be shared routes for cyclists and pedestrians unless designated otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.[/p][/quote]It's time that law was repealed, all pavements should be shared routes for cyclists and pedestrians unless designated otherwise. jobsworthwatch

3:09pm Thu 12 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.
I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around!
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.[/p][/quote]I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around! suzigirl

3:12pm Thu 12 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
rayc wrote: If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.
Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better !
Pedestrian safety - does that include not letting cyclists ride on the pavements illegally!
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: If there is spare money around to improve Boscombe then perhaps there are better things to spend it on than cycle lanes, pedestrian crossing points and a reduction in on-street parking.[/p][/quote]Who said it was spare money ?. Or are you attempting to make a point that money used on cycle lanes, pedestrian crossings and reducing on-street parking is not a good use of taxpayers money. Well, as a taxpayer and a cycle commuter, as far as I'm concerned the more money that can be spent on properly thought-out cycle lanes, pedestrian safety and reducing vehicle congestion the better ![/p][/quote]Pedestrian safety - does that include not letting cyclists ride on the pavements illegally! suzigirl

3:16pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

skydriver wrote:
Has anyone noticed the picture? they are on double yellow lines, now if that had been anyone else the camera car would have picked up on that, so to all you councillors out there on your away day with a package of pixie dust ...........get real, get back in your office and do some real work, rather than a need for a photo shoot.
I thought it was the Clr. M Filer trying out the new Mayors Limousine for Poole.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed the picture? they are on double yellow lines, now if that had been anyone else the camera car would have picked up on that, so to all you councillors out there on your away day with a package of pixie dust ...........get real, get back in your office and do some real work, rather than a need for a photo shoot.[/p][/quote]I thought it was the Clr. M Filer trying out the new Mayors Limousine for Poole. Lord Spring

3:47pm Thu 12 Dec 13

speckle01 says...

why is David Walliams on the right of the picture?
why is David Walliams on the right of the picture? speckle01

4:02pm Thu 12 Dec 13

spooki says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
If....yes I agree totally, but you rarely notice the good cyclists or motorists and only remember the blur of a darkly clothed cyclist nipping in front of you while you're waiting in your car at traffic lights! It gets dark earlier this time of year but they still don't wear anything visible when they're breaking the road rules. What difference would 'improvements' make if some people don't bother with the Highway Code in the first place?
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]If....yes I agree totally, but you rarely notice the good cyclists or motorists and only remember the blur of a darkly clothed cyclist nipping in front of you while you're waiting in your car at traffic lights! It gets dark earlier this time of year but they still don't wear anything visible when they're breaking the road rules. What difference would 'improvements' make if some people don't bother with the Highway Code in the first place? spooki

5:32pm Thu 12 Dec 13

stevobath says...

skydriver wrote:
More time and energy being spent on Boscombe , I can't see why,
I have said before the only way is a total rebuild.
Sorry, but once again the ECHO misleads.

Most people think of anything past Ashley Rd towards The Crescent areas as Boscombe.

Boscombe East is far from run down or full of on street drinkers etc.
Exton/Warnford Rds & surrounding Rds are nice areas. Certainly don't need 'flattening' in that area.

Obviously, the crap Journos at the ECHO couldn't resist twisting the headlines.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: More time and energy being spent on Boscombe , I can't see why, I have said before the only way is a total rebuild.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but once again the ECHO misleads. Most people think of anything past Ashley Rd towards The Crescent areas as Boscombe. Boscombe East is far from run down or full of on street drinkers etc. Exton/Warnford Rds & surrounding Rds are nice areas. Certainly don't need 'flattening' in that area. Obviously, the crap Journos at the ECHO couldn't resist twisting the headlines. stevobath

5:47pm Thu 12 Dec 13

wonderway says...

will councillor Filer receive £70 fine for being in charge of a parked van on double yellow lines in photo above also not wearing a seat belt

one law for residents another for councillors
will councillor Filer receive £70 fine for being in charge of a parked van on double yellow lines in photo above also not wearing a seat belt one law for residents another for councillors wonderway

6:26pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

suzigirl wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.
I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around!
Sad but true I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.[/p][/quote]I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around![/p][/quote]Sad but true I'm afraid. bobthedestroyer

6:29pm Thu 12 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Kind of stupid to mention but.....why the hell is the phot outside the BIC when they are talking about Christchurch Road Boscombe to Iford? Or was the "launch party" held at the BIC ;-)
Kind of stupid to mention but.....why the hell is the phot outside the BIC when they are talking about Christchurch Road Boscombe to Iford? Or was the "launch party" held at the BIC ;-) bobthedestroyer

7:35pm Thu 12 Dec 13

FNS-man says...

suzigirl wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.
I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around!
Hammer, you make up a new story each time. All you do is troll cycling stories. Please desist.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.[/p][/quote]I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around![/p][/quote]Hammer, you make up a new story each time. All you do is troll cycling stories. Please desist. FNS-man

9:12pm Thu 12 Dec 13

magpies13 says...

I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue
which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant.
are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted
" Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court"
What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective
and lighter coloured.
I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant. are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted " Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court" What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective and lighter coloured. magpies13

2:17am Fri 13 Dec 13

Bob49 says...

retry69 wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo



int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.
Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all
A bit extreme, you are obviously not taking the issue serious :)
Ah, for the good old days when we just had problems and not ishooooooos
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Pedestrianisation that's the way forward, Boscombe and Bournemouth should be car free apart from the obvious exceptions.Crumblepo int and Southampton are within easy driving even for most hideous of drivers.[/p][/quote]Or even better make it people free then there are no issues at all[/p][/quote]A bit extreme, you are obviously not taking the issue serious :)[/p][/quote]Ah, for the good old days when we just had problems and not ishooooooos Bob49

9:43am Fri 13 Dec 13

suzigirl says...

FNS-man wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
suzigirl wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money!
Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.
Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.
I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around!
Hammer, you make up a new story each time. All you do is troll cycling stories. Please desist.
Pray tell me what are you doing then - it takes one to know one! You really are rather special aren't you!
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: More cycle lanes that cyclists will not use as they reckon they are dangerous and they prefer the pavements - what a waste of tax payers money![/p][/quote]Not the pavements, we generally prefer the roads !. They're far more suited to cycling than poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrian lanes. If only all motorists were aware of Rules 163, 212 and 213 of the highway code and stuck to speed limits, and all cyclists made themselves visible at night and stopped jumping red-lights everyone would be happy (hopefully) - only problem, how do we achieve this ?.[/p][/quote]Poole Pirate.....stop talking sense you're embarrasing everyone else (well me) Seriously, I agree if people were more considerate towards erach other, whether on wheels or on foot, things would probably go a lot easier. Unfortunately it is the minority of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians who feel that they can do what they like when they like which causes issues for everyone else. I was nearly witness to a very interesting accident (thankfully there was no accident) Van parked on pavement drives off because pedestrian lights changed to red (van drove down dropped kerb of said lights), at the same time a cyclist just carried on through the red light. It was more luck than any awareness by either fool there wan't an accident, but I did chcukle when they cyclist shouted abuse at the van driver. Both complete idiots.[/p][/quote]I hope that is the truth and you are not lying. I have made a few comments about incidents involving cyclists jumping red lights etc. only to be called a liar by a certain fellow commentor - I did report him and hopefully he has been barred from commenting for a while! Like I keep saying there are idiot motorists, cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians about. My favourite one at the moment is car drivers that drive with their fog lights on with not a hint of fog for miles around![/p][/quote]Hammer, you make up a new story each time. All you do is troll cycling stories. Please desist.[/p][/quote]Pray tell me what are you doing then - it takes one to know one! You really are rather special aren't you! suzigirl

5:00pm Fri 13 Dec 13

FNS-man says...

magpies13 wrote:
I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant. are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted " Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court" What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective and lighter coloured.
Pavements are a right pain to cycle on. Going up and down the kerb and having no priority over side-roads. Plus pedestrians in the way. Do you really think that if cycle lanes were fit for purpose (i.e. an eight-year old could use them and feel safe) then people would cycle on the pavement?
[quote][p][bold]magpies13[/bold] wrote: I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant. are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted " Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court" What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective and lighter coloured.[/p][/quote]Pavements are a right pain to cycle on. Going up and down the kerb and having no priority over side-roads. Plus pedestrians in the way. Do you really think that if cycle lanes were fit for purpose (i.e. an eight-year old could use them and feel safe) then people would cycle on the pavement? FNS-man

5:07pm Fri 13 Dec 13

FNS-man says...

magpies13 wrote:
I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant. are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted " Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court" What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective and lighter coloured.
Also, how do you get from Bargates to the High St safely on a bike without having to walk?

Are you really complaining about people cycling the wrong way up Stourvale Avenue? I don't think I've ever seen anyone drive up it in my whole life. It's a fairly wide road that is ridiculous to block cyclists from going down both ways. Do you really want people to have to join Barrack Road? This just shows that your concerns are for people following the rules, rather than actually making things safe.
[quote][p][bold]magpies13[/bold] wrote: I wish cyclists would use the cycle lanes. It would also help if they looked before joining the main road traffic. I have friend who lives in Stourvale avenue which is one way ...it seems that cyclists and postmen on bikes ride on the pavement from Oak Avenue to The Crooked Beam restaurant. are exempt from traffic regulations. Another danger spot is the underpass in Christchurch from Bargates to High Street, I was nearly run down by a family riding in a group , despite "No cycling signs", they then shouted " Get over it Grandma, we are only riding our bikes and there is nothing you can do about it...you'll be long dead before we ever get to Court" What a way to teach their children to behave!...I am sure that there are some awful drivers as well as cyclists, but the dark mornings and afternoons are so dangerous to cyclists, please wear something reflective and lighter coloured.[/p][/quote]Also, how do you get from Bargates to the High St safely on a bike without having to walk? Are you really complaining about people cycling the wrong way up Stourvale Avenue? I don't think I've ever seen anyone drive up it in my whole life. It's a fairly wide road that is ridiculous to block cyclists from going down both ways. Do you really want people to have to join Barrack Road? This just shows that your concerns are for people following the rules, rather than actually making things safe. FNS-man

6:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

beachcomber1 says...

Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
Poole Pirate wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.
It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.
I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.
And a world where probably 100% of all motorists exceed the speed limit at some point on every journey they make. If any motorist can honestly say that they always abide by the speed limits, I salute you - appologies in advance !!
i suspect 100% of cyclists break the speed limit on the Prom. do i hear you say what speed limit? lol
[quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: cycle lanes ROFL ROFL ROFL cyclists don't use them! they're on the pavement even where there are cycle lanes. but cyclists are the political flavour of the year, all the politicians bending over taking it up the jacksy to please them, anything mentioning them perceived to gain then political points. just because GB won a few gold medals deemed to mean we should all cycle. huh? should we all swim if GB win some medals at that? or ride horses if the equestrains do well? don't waste road space with cycle lanes. that's what pavements are now used for.[/p][/quote]It's not about politics, promoting cycling is about common sense. Whether you like it or not my friend, the cycling snowball is gaining momentum. I save £600/yr by commuting to work by bike, I do my bit for the environment and I reduce the burden on a strapped NHS by staying in good health. Just remember, if cyclists choose to ride on the road as opposed to poorly-designed shared cycle/pedestrial lanes, it's not because they want to antagonise motorists, it's becuse they feel it safer to do so.[/p][/quote]I do actually agree with you, in theory. However, I inhabit the real world which happens to be full of law-breaking cyclists on the pavement and the pedestrian precinct. Btw I walk to work, 3 miles each way.[/p][/quote]And a world where probably 100% of all motorists exceed the speed limit at some point on every journey they make. If any motorist can honestly say that they always abide by the speed limits, I salute you - appologies in advance !![/p][/quote]i suspect 100% of cyclists break the speed limit on the Prom. do i hear you say what speed limit? lol beachcomber1

5:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

randson112 says...

In my day we cycled on the roads with no problems, cars etc. simply went round us, now we have cycle lanes with all the problems they bring, the lose of one third of the road means less room for manoeuvre for motorists, and cycle lanes grossly underused which cannot be used by motorists, Has it reduced the death rate of cyclists I very much doubt it as many more are now being killed ,cycle boxes at traffic lights must be the most idiotic thing ever invented the slowest moving traffic on the road holds up all the other traffic the average British road is 33 feet wide the average vehicle is 6 foot wide the average cycle lane is 3 feet wide, with 2 way traffic that leaves 15 feet left, a little over 3 and a half feet or 1 and a half meters, each side for vehicles to manoeuvre in, I suggest that all cycle lanes be removed then cyclist and motorists can share the roads like they used to.
In my day we cycled on the roads with no problems, cars etc. simply went round us, now we have cycle lanes with all the problems they bring, the lose of one third of the road means less room for manoeuvre for motorists, and cycle lanes grossly underused which cannot be used by motorists, Has it reduced the death rate of cyclists I very much doubt it as many more are now being killed ,cycle boxes at traffic lights must be the most idiotic thing ever invented the slowest moving traffic on the road holds up all the other traffic the average British road is 33 feet wide the average vehicle is 6 foot wide the average cycle lane is 3 feet wide, with 2 way traffic that leaves 15 feet left, a little over 3 and a half feet or 1 and a half meters, each side for vehicles to manoeuvre in, I suggest that all cycle lanes be removed then cyclist and motorists can share the roads like they used to. randson112

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