Why did council reject my application for a blue badge?

Bournemouth Echo: APPEAL: Jane Dry her father  Glyn Arthur APPEAL: Jane Dry her father Glyn Arthur

A WOMAN who cares for her elderly father has hit out at Bournemouth Borough Council after being rejected for a blue badge.

Jane Dry, who lives in Iford, decided to move father Glyn Arthur into her home two weeks ago after he became increasingly frail.

The 89-year-old is in the early stages of dementia and struggles to walk long distances.

However, the council has turned down Mrs Dry’s application for a blue badge, which would allow her to park in disabled spaces.

She said: “It is so frustrating to be told that he’s been rejected.

“I’ve asked them to come and meet him to show them how much we need it, but they won’t. I’ve even offered to bring him to them so they can meet him personally, but they don’t want that to happen either.

“They’re just making these decisions without knowing anything about my father.”

Because of Mr Arthur’s condition, Mrs Dry, 56, is unable to drop him off while she parks further away.

“He would wander off and get lost,” she said.

“I have to take my father with me everywhere and it would make such a difference to our lives if we could park as close as possible to the shops.

“It takes him a long time to walk anywhere.”

She said she will appeal against the decision, but is concerned it could take “months” for the council to respond.

“I’ve been asked to appeal in writing,” she said.

“By the time this all gets sorted, it could be February next year. With Christmas coming up, it feels like a real nightmare.”

Stuart Walters, customer services manager for Bournemouth Borough Council, said: “Any application for a Blue Badge is thoroughly considered and assessed against set criteria.

“In this instance we refused the application based on the information which was provided to us.

“Applicants who are unhappy with a decision have the opportunity to appeal, which would result in them undergoing a walking assessment with an occupational therapist.”

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7:34am Tue 10 Dec 13

Controversial But True says...

As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!! Controversial But True

7:36am Tue 10 Dec 13

bosco1 says...

It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.!
It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.! bosco1

8:04am Tue 10 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them! Wackerone

8:12am Tue 10 Dec 13

we-shall-see says...

It sounds to me like she did not provide enough information for them to properly consider her application. If she had provided medical proof of her father's condition I daresay the badge would have been issued.

However, whilst she seems to prefer to run whinging to the paper, than getting the correct information to re-submit her application, her poor old dad is left in the lurch ……..

ps. Blue Badges are not only issued for physical mobility problems. They can be issued in cases of dementia (as in this case to avoid someone being dropped off and wandering away), heart problems, lung/breathing, terminal cancer etc.
It sounds to me like she did not provide enough information for them to properly consider her application. If she had provided medical proof of her father's condition I daresay the badge would have been issued. However, whilst she seems to prefer to run whinging to the paper, than getting the correct information to re-submit her application, her poor old dad is left in the lurch …….. ps. Blue Badges are not only issued for physical mobility problems. They can be issued in cases of dementia (as in this case to avoid someone being dropped off and wandering away), heart problems, lung/breathing, terminal cancer etc. we-shall-see

8:15am Tue 10 Dec 13

djd says...

we-shall-see wrote:
It sounds to me like she did not provide enough information for them to properly consider her application. If she had provided medical proof of her father's condition I daresay the badge would have been issued.

However, whilst she seems to prefer to run whinging to the paper, than getting the correct information to re-submit her application, her poor old dad is left in the lurch ……..

ps. Blue Badges are not only issued for physical mobility problems. They can be issued in cases of dementia (as in this case to avoid someone being dropped off and wandering away), heart problems, lung/breathing, terminal cancer etc.
Totally agree, and even the Bournemouth officers says it in his interview. Make sure you give all the relevant information when applying for such as the Blue Badge. Council officers are not mind readers, they cannot see through walls.if you don't tell them, they don't know.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: It sounds to me like she did not provide enough information for them to properly consider her application. If she had provided medical proof of her father's condition I daresay the badge would have been issued. However, whilst she seems to prefer to run whinging to the paper, than getting the correct information to re-submit her application, her poor old dad is left in the lurch …….. ps. Blue Badges are not only issued for physical mobility problems. They can be issued in cases of dementia (as in this case to avoid someone being dropped off and wandering away), heart problems, lung/breathing, terminal cancer etc.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, and even the Bournemouth officers says it in his interview. Make sure you give all the relevant information when applying for such as the Blue Badge. Council officers are not mind readers, they cannot see through walls.if you don't tell them, they don't know. djd

8:22am Tue 10 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

bosco1 wrote:
It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.!
petty jealousies
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.![/p][/quote]petty jealousies nickynoodah

8:25am Tue 10 Dec 13

Carolyn43 says...

I don't know what happens now, but when I applied for my first one I was given a sealed envelope to give to my doctor, which I assume contained something for him to complete and send back to them.
I don't know what happens now, but when I applied for my first one I was given a sealed envelope to give to my doctor, which I assume contained something for him to complete and send back to them. Carolyn43

8:32am Tue 10 Dec 13

Chris the plumber says...

bosco1 wrote:
It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.!
a blue badge is an aid to mobility and has nothing to do with your bank balance, maybe the blue badge helps them to live such a full life .
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.![/p][/quote]a blue badge is an aid to mobility and has nothing to do with your bank balance, maybe the blue badge helps them to live such a full life . Chris the plumber

8:32am Tue 10 Dec 13

Chris the plumber says...

bosco1 wrote:
It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.!
a blue badge is an aid to mobility and has nothing to do with your bank balance, maybe the blue badge helps them to live such a full life .
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: It seems very unfair how the system works for some. I know of a couple who both have disables badges one for their car and one for there Motorbyke. They manage to get to the poole bikers meeting on tuesdays, get around all day shopping . eat out every night and take a 3 month holiday abroad.They must have been able to get around the Doctor to sign the application forms.![/p][/quote]a blue badge is an aid to mobility and has nothing to do with your bank balance, maybe the blue badge helps them to live such a full life . Chris the plumber

8:33am Tue 10 Dec 13

Wilkie says...

I can empathise with the lady having cared for my elderly parents over the last few years. I recall that to complete the form you need to list the medication that the person is on, together with their medical conditions. Her father will no doubt be confused and unable to reliably communicate this information to her. The options are to arrange another appointment to go and see his doctor or to fill in the form as best as you can and hope that it is acceptable to the council. I daresay, she chose the latter in order to save time and what may mean taking more time off work to take him to the doctor. A stressful time for her, which can sometimes lead to things being blown out of proportion and thus the article in the Echo. I expect that once she has calmed down, chatted it through with the council worker and provided the neccessary information, she will get the Blue badge that she clearly needs to take her father out.
I can empathise with the lady having cared for my elderly parents over the last few years. I recall that to complete the form you need to list the medication that the person is on, together with their medical conditions. Her father will no doubt be confused and unable to reliably communicate this information to her. The options are to arrange another appointment to go and see his doctor or to fill in the form as best as you can and hope that it is acceptable to the council. I daresay, she chose the latter in order to save time and what may mean taking more time off work to take him to the doctor. A stressful time for her, which can sometimes lead to things being blown out of proportion and thus the article in the Echo. I expect that once she has calmed down, chatted it through with the council worker and provided the neccessary information, she will get the Blue badge that she clearly needs to take her father out. Wilkie

8:46am Tue 10 Dec 13

TheDistrict says...

I too sympathise with the applicant, but the forms to complete are quite explanetory in asking for as much information regarding medical conditions, medication etc. Some of the questions, even I wondered why they were asking, but nevertheless I did answer them, and received my blue badge soon after. I agree with some above, the lady, it appears did not complete the said form as required.
I too sympathise with the applicant, but the forms to complete are quite explanetory in asking for as much information regarding medical conditions, medication etc. Some of the questions, even I wondered why they were asking, but nevertheless I did answer them, and received my blue badge soon after. I agree with some above, the lady, it appears did not complete the said form as required. TheDistrict

9:15am Tue 10 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

Wackerone wrote:
As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat.

Eat too much - blue badge.

Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike.

I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about.

As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms:

a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person.

b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect? scrumpyjack

9:30am Tue 10 Dec 13

Townee says...

I hope she gets it in the end but she must realise that this is for him when he is in the car or when she is doing things for him, like going to his bank.
It is not for her to use if she wants to go shopping for herself or things that are not to do with him. A lot of badges are used by other people, you only have to watch tv to see people use it for parking while they work or shop so they don't have to walk far.
I hope she gets it in the end but she must realise that this is for him when he is in the car or when she is doing things for him, like going to his bank. It is not for her to use if she wants to go shopping for herself or things that are not to do with him. A lot of badges are used by other people, you only have to watch tv to see people use it for parking while they work or shop so they don't have to walk far. Townee

10:00am Tue 10 Dec 13

MattGillett says...

Although the situation must be very difficult, if they give out blue badges to all deserving cases there will be nowhere for councillors to park.
Although the situation must be very difficult, if they give out blue badges to all deserving cases there will be nowhere for councillors to park. MattGillett

10:18am Tue 10 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning?

In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....
One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning? In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing.... speedy231278

10:25am Tue 10 Dec 13

rozmister says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Wackerone wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
If the council met them face to face rather than asking for additional medical evidence and following a set appeals system they'd have to do it with everyone. The sheer volume of people they'd need to see would stop them having time to do their original job.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?[/p][/quote]If the council met them face to face rather than asking for additional medical evidence and following a set appeals system they'd have to do it with everyone. The sheer volume of people they'd need to see would stop them having time to do their original job. rozmister

10:33am Tue 10 Dec 13

shytorque says...

Local Authority makes decision based on facts. How is this even newsworthy? Yet another non-story.
Local Authority makes decision based on facts. How is this even newsworthy? Yet another non-story. shytorque

11:09am Tue 10 Dec 13

s-pb2 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat.

Eat too much - blue badge.

Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike.

I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about.

As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms:

a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person.

b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience.

We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight.

Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?[/p][/quote]I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now. s-pb2

12:17pm Tue 10 Dec 13

MSmithm says...

Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most. MSmithm

12:45pm Tue 10 Dec 13

M0Z says...

speedy231278 wrote:
One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning?

In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....
There are several types of double yellow line. Blue badge holders can not park on those marked as No Loading, which normally includes all emergency access routes.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning? In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....[/p][/quote]There are several types of double yellow line. Blue badge holders can not park on those marked as No Loading, which normally includes all emergency access routes. M0Z

12:52pm Tue 10 Dec 13

spooki says...

Catch the folk who really don't deserve the blue badges like the ones who park around Bournemouth square and elsewhere in disabled bays when they're only 'popping' into Tesco and give them to the folk like this who actually do deserve them.
Catch the folk who really don't deserve the blue badges like the ones who park around Bournemouth square and elsewhere in disabled bays when they're only 'popping' into Tesco and give them to the folk like this who actually do deserve them. spooki

12:57pm Tue 10 Dec 13

M0Z says...

I recently helped someone apply for a Blue Badge in Bournemouth. The forms were completed accurately and fully, and the badge was received in less than a month. The council made one incoming phone call to check something, and were very helpful.

There is such widespread abuse of the scheme that I fully support vigilance and caution on the side of the council. Reading between the lines, it seems in this case the forms weren’t filled out correctly. I see no other reason why the elderly gentleman would be denied. It would make more sense to focus effort on lodging the correct paperwork than to bleat on about injustice to the Echo. I don’t support face-to-face meetings because they’re expensive, and the volume for blue badges would force our council taxes even higher.
I recently helped someone apply for a Blue Badge in Bournemouth. The forms were completed accurately and fully, and the badge was received in less than a month. The council made one incoming phone call to check something, and were very helpful. There is such widespread abuse of the scheme that I fully support vigilance and caution on the side of the council. Reading between the lines, it seems in this case the forms weren’t filled out correctly. I see no other reason why the elderly gentleman would be denied. It would make more sense to focus effort on lodging the correct paperwork than to bleat on about injustice to the Echo. I don’t support face-to-face meetings because they’re expensive, and the volume for blue badges would force our council taxes even higher. M0Z

1:03pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Controversial But True says...

MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too.

Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.
[quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.[/p][/quote]It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too. Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple. Controversial But True

1:08pm Tue 10 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

She sounds like a loving caring daughter you know
our council servants
should get a grip.
She sounds like a loving caring daughter you know our council servants should get a grip. nickynoodah

1:25pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Edna Cheese (Mrs) says...

I guess it helps if you are A) very fat B) have a fag
In your mouth and C) incessantly claim it's not your fault.
I guess it helps if you are A) very fat B) have a fag In your mouth and C) incessantly claim it's not your fault. Edna Cheese (Mrs)

2:31pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Phixer says...

So, the Echo makes an 89-year old, who struggles to walk, go out so that the Echo can have a nice pretty picture for its paper. How caring!
So, the Echo makes an 89-year old, who struggles to walk, go out so that the Echo can have a nice pretty picture for its paper. How caring! Phixer

3:04pm Tue 10 Dec 13

burgerboy says...

Edna Cheese (Mrs) wrote:
I guess it helps if you are A) very fat B) have a fag
In your mouth and C) incessantly claim it's not your fault.
So which one are you Edna.........
[quote][p][bold]Edna Cheese (Mrs)[/bold] wrote: I guess it helps if you are A) very fat B) have a fag In your mouth and C) incessantly claim it's not your fault.[/p][/quote]So which one are you Edna......... burgerboy

3:20pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Rally says...

speedy231278 wrote:
One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning?

In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....
The Blue Badge comes with a guide to where its holder can and cannot park.
It is not a carte blanche to park wherever he or she feels like doing so.
Police officers and traffic wardens can order a Blue Badge holder to move his or her vehicle if thought necessary.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning? In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....[/p][/quote]The Blue Badge comes with a guide to where its holder can and cannot park. It is not a carte blanche to park wherever he or she feels like doing so. Police officers and traffic wardens can order a Blue Badge holder to move his or her vehicle if thought necessary. Rally

3:43pm Tue 10 Dec 13

MSmithm says...

Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too.

Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.
The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.[/p][/quote]It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too. Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.[/p][/quote]The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind.... MSmithm

3:48pm Tue 10 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

You'll get better results with a Blue Peter badge.
You'll get better results with a Blue Peter badge. BIGTONE

4:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

shytorque wrote:
Local Authority makes decision based on facts. How is this even newsworthy? Yet another non-story.
Probably because usually it does so based on how expensive a lunch it has been bought!
[quote][p][bold]shytorque[/bold] wrote: Local Authority makes decision based on facts. How is this even newsworthy? Yet another non-story.[/p][/quote]Probably because usually it does so based on how expensive a lunch it has been bought! speedy231278

4:11pm Tue 10 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

BIGTONE wrote:
You'll get better results with a Blue Peter badge.
I tried to buy one of those, but the bank bounced my Blankety Blank cheque written with my Blankety Blank pen.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: You'll get better results with a Blue Peter badge.[/p][/quote]I tried to buy one of those, but the bank bounced my Blankety Blank cheque written with my Blankety Blank pen. speedy231278

4:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

Phixer wrote:
So, the Echo makes an 89-year old, who struggles to walk, go out so that the Echo can have a nice pretty picture for its paper. How caring!
At least they didn't try and make him cross his arms!
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: So, the Echo makes an 89-year old, who struggles to walk, go out so that the Echo can have a nice pretty picture for its paper. How caring![/p][/quote]At least they didn't try and make him cross his arms! speedy231278

4:20pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Controversial But True says...

MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too.

Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.
The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....
Tw*t springs to my mind!
[quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.[/p][/quote]It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too. Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.[/p][/quote]The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....[/p][/quote]Tw*t springs to my mind! Controversial But True

4:26pm Tue 10 Dec 13

MSmithm says...

Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too.

Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.
The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....
Tw*t springs to my mind!
Don't be so harsh on yourself!
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.[/p][/quote]It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too. Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.[/p][/quote]The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....[/p][/quote]Tw*t springs to my mind![/p][/quote]Don't be so harsh on yourself! MSmithm

4:55pm Tue 10 Dec 13

s-pb2 says...

Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
MSmithm wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!!

The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!!
What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong.
So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.
It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too.

Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.
The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....
Tw*t springs to my mind!
Is that physically possible?
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MSmithm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: As frustrating as this must be for the two of them, I really don't think going to the Echo will change their decision!! The Echo needs to concentrate on REAL stories and features instead of this or they will lose their online readership as well as the paper readers!![/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish. This is still a 'real' story and hopefully this will highlight the sick depravity at the way less able members of our community are treated by the system. Its disgusting the way help is doled out to lazy individuals on the dole and questions never asked, yet cases like this highlight something is very very wrong. So tell me why should we not bring to light these cases, yet carry on with an unjust system that punishes the hard-working members of society the most.[/p][/quote]It isn't news to have anything rejected by any council, unless there are unusual circumstances! Nothing unusual here. Just someone who has a gripe for being turned down for something they truly feel entitled too. Of course I hope that this situation is resolved, but the best way to put a spanner in the works is to go crying to the local paper and think that it will make a difference. Criteria is criteria. It's that simple.[/p][/quote]The fact your commenting on here probably serves what the article was intended for..publicity. Irony springs to mind....[/p][/quote]Tw*t springs to my mind![/p][/quote]Is that physically possible? s-pb2

5:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Chris the plumber says...

MSmithm and Controversial But True always bring this forum down to a common slanging match... both need barring and leave the comments the more intelligent readers..
MSmithm and Controversial But True always bring this forum down to a common slanging match... both need barring and leave the comments the more intelligent readers.. Chris the plumber

5:12pm Tue 10 Dec 13

kingstonpaul says...

There is rampant abuse of the Blue Badge scheme and it is well known that many are being used on a fraudulent basis. Go to any supermarket car park, and it's easy to spot who's on the fiddle. Asda in particular, where many of its blue badge shoppers seem to be remarkably able-bodied.
The issuers of badges have to ensure that the benefit is solely for the disabled party, and not the wider benefit of family to help themselves to free parking. I'm sure Ms Dry is entitled to an appeal, and that she will be given the opportunity to provide the necessary reassurance needed. Probably better than blagging to the Echo.
There is rampant abuse of the Blue Badge scheme and it is well known that many are being used on a fraudulent basis. Go to any supermarket car park, and it's easy to spot who's on the fiddle. Asda in particular, where many of its blue badge shoppers seem to be remarkably able-bodied. The issuers of badges have to ensure that the benefit is solely for the disabled party, and not the wider benefit of family to help themselves to free parking. I'm sure Ms Dry is entitled to an appeal, and that she will be given the opportunity to provide the necessary reassurance needed. Probably better than blagging to the Echo. kingstonpaul

5:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Wageslave says...

Meanwhile a folding wheelchair in the boot will do the trick. Infact a lot more of these instead of blue badges would be more appropriate in many cases.
Meanwhile a folding wheelchair in the boot will do the trick. Infact a lot more of these instead of blue badges would be more appropriate in many cases. Wageslave

11:58pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

speedy231278 wrote:
One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning?

In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....
Interesting enough, there are very few places where you can park on double yellows in this area, especially in Poole where the council have designated most double yellows as 'no loading' areas which has had the result of moving blue badge holders away from hazardous places to search for the few designated bays in the town and the need to be up at the crack of dawn to get one. Go to any supermarket first thing in the morning and you will find all the disabled bays filling up rapidly while the rest of the car park remains relatively empty! Try to find a place to park in Westbourne after 9am where 75% of the on street parking is disabled only and every space taken!
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning? In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....[/p][/quote]Interesting enough, there are very few places where you can park on double yellows in this area, especially in Poole where the council have designated most double yellows as 'no loading' areas which has had the result of moving blue badge holders away from hazardous places to search for the few designated bays in the town and the need to be up at the crack of dawn to get one. Go to any supermarket first thing in the morning and you will find all the disabled bays filling up rapidly while the rest of the car park remains relatively empty! Try to find a place to park in Westbourne after 9am where 75% of the on street parking is disabled only and every space taken! Wackerone

1:36am Wed 11 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

Wackerone wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning?

In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....
Interesting enough, there are very few places where you can park on double yellows in this area, especially in Poole where the council have designated most double yellows as 'no loading' areas which has had the result of moving blue badge holders away from hazardous places to search for the few designated bays in the town and the need to be up at the crack of dawn to get one. Go to any supermarket first thing in the morning and you will find all the disabled bays filling up rapidly while the rest of the car park remains relatively empty! Try to find a place to park in Westbourne after 9am where 75% of the on street parking is disabled only and every space taken!
Try getting around when you are nearly 80,only 2 heart valves working,and two lots of cancer,and severe arthritis.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: One thing confuses me about blue badges. It seems blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for a certain period of time. Yet, if anyone else does, they get fined because they are causing an obstruction to traffic, and in particular could prevent the emergency services from being able to attend the scene of an emergency. So how come a blue badge holder's car is not an obstruction, yet a non-holder's car is? Surely in areas the council do not want people other than disabled drivers parking they should paint the correct bays, rather than yellow lines with clearly false meaning? In this case, it would seem the council are being very harsh, but unless we see the application submitted we have no way of knowing....[/p][/quote]Interesting enough, there are very few places where you can park on double yellows in this area, especially in Poole where the council have designated most double yellows as 'no loading' areas which has had the result of moving blue badge holders away from hazardous places to search for the few designated bays in the town and the need to be up at the crack of dawn to get one. Go to any supermarket first thing in the morning and you will find all the disabled bays filling up rapidly while the rest of the car park remains relatively empty! Try to find a place to park in Westbourne after 9am where 75% of the on street parking is disabled only and every space taken![/p][/quote]Try getting around when you are nearly 80,only 2 heart valves working,and two lots of cancer,and severe arthritis. pete woodley

9:35am Wed 11 Dec 13

TheDistrict says...

s-pb2 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat.

Eat too much - blue badge.

Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike.

I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about.

As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms:

a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person.

b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience.

We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight.

Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.
I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete.

Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it.
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?[/p][/quote]I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.[/p][/quote]I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete. Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it. TheDistrict

1:39pm Wed 11 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

TheDistrict wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Wackerone wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.
I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete. Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it.
What on earth difference does it make if I have filled out the 'said form'?

Another little sneer?

You have no idea what these people put on their form - unless, just because you filled one out once, the council now pop a copy of everybody elses in the post to you for you to have a look and pass judgement on?
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?[/p][/quote]I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.[/p][/quote]I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete. Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it.[/p][/quote]What on earth difference does it make if I have filled out the 'said form'? Another little sneer? You have no idea what these people put on their form - unless, just because you filled one out once, the council now pop a copy of everybody elses in the post to you for you to have a look and pass judgement on? scrumpyjack

1:54pm Wed 11 Dec 13

retry69 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Wackerone wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them!
As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?
I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.
I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete. Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it.
What on earth difference does it make if I have filled out the 'said form'?

Another little sneer?

You have no idea what these people put on their form - unless, just because you filled one out once, the council now pop a copy of everybody elses in the post to you for you to have a look and pass judgement on?
Now that's just being plain stupid and idiotic the cost of all that postage would be phenomenal,they have couriers for that sort of thing :)
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: As walking seems to be the main criteria in these applications, how do the majority of these badge holders actually obtain them![/p][/quote]As you can deduce from some posting on this thread... you can get one for simply being too fat. Eat too much - blue badge. Live to 89 and become frail and confused - on yer bike. I think add in the fact he lives with them as well and that she is his carer makes this an example of what the blude badge scheme should be about. As for those sneering at how this lady completed the forms: a) we have no idea what she put on the form and as she has said they have refused twice to meet with them or discuss it in person. b) most of you normally can't wait to give the council a good slagging about how they keep getting things wrong, but one sniff of an 'arms folded' peice and suddenly they are perfect?[/p][/quote]I dont think anyone is sneering, or being rude, they are just giving practical advice based on experience. We are as ever with these type of stories only hearing one side of the story. It would be unprofessional for the council to comment in depth on individual cases. Im sure sometimes council officers would love to be able to comment specifically to put the record straight. Im sure if the lady put her energies into appealing in the correct manner rather than demanding meetings with non-front line staff and going to the Echo then she would have had a blue badge by now.[/p][/quote]I mentioned the application form offering advice, because having completed one myself, I know how much information is needed, and what is required. On my application I was informed that this was a new routine, and instead of just renewing, a form was need, completed each time. On a similar note, when I want a wet room fitted instead of a bath, the red tape I had to go through was phenominal. Form filing, visits, interviews. Took a couple of months to complete. Scrumpyjack, have you completed said form. It does not sound like it.[/p][/quote]What on earth difference does it make if I have filled out the 'said form'? Another little sneer? You have no idea what these people put on their form - unless, just because you filled one out once, the council now pop a copy of everybody elses in the post to you for you to have a look and pass judgement on?[/p][/quote]Now that's just being plain stupid and idiotic the cost of all that postage would be phenomenal,they have couriers for that sort of thing :) retry69

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