Boscombe surf reef to re-open in April after council receive £300k insurance payout

Bournemouth Echo: Photo from Gary Ellson, Bournemouth Helicopters Photo from Gary Ellson, Bournemouth Helicopters

BOSCOMBE’S controversial surf reef is set to re-open in April after Bournemouth council received insurance payouts of more than £300,000 to fund repairs.

Tourism chief Mark Smith said he hopes repairs to the reef will enhance a planned coastal activity park for the seafront.

The council has received two settlements, two years after the reef was damaged by a boat’s propeller in 2011.

Mr Smith said technical work is needed to return the structure to its original state.

“The council has successfully reached an insurance settlement for the surf reef and so is now undertaking the necessary work to ensure the reef is safe for people to use” he said.

“This is progressing well and the reef will form an integral part of the Coastal Activity Park which is scheduled to open in Spring 2014.

“The Coastal Activity Park plans will appeal to a wide range of people meaning that more and more residents and visitors will, once it is reopened, begin to enjoy the reef and the wider Boscombe seafront area, as an enhanced leisure amenity.”

The firm that built the £3.2 million surf reef, New Zealand-based ASR, has since gone into liquidation and Bournemouth council is one of its creditors.

The plans to re-open the attraction have been criticised by Labour councillor Ben Grower, who claims it has never worked and that money has been wasted.

He said: “To put the money back underwater is a complete waste and shows this council can’t learn from its mistakes.

“The council may put up a sign saying the reef is open in April but it still won’t work – it has never worked and people will still surf on the other side of the pier.”

Elliot Withers, a sales assistant at Sorted Surf Shop, said the structure has helped in the regeneration of Boscombe seafront and said the area has become “more upper class.”

He added: “It will be more beneficial to local businesses if it is re-opened because a lot of people still turn up, unaware that it is out of action.”

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9:52am Mon 9 Dec 13

crispy_pants says...

When you've supported something like this to the bitter end it's very difficult to throw the towel in and say "We made a terrible mistake".
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I hope they get it working and it doesn't cost the Bournemouth tax payers endless amounts of money to maintain it.
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Time will tell.
When you've supported something like this to the bitter end it's very difficult to throw the towel in and say "We made a terrible mistake". . I hope they get it working and it doesn't cost the Bournemouth tax payers endless amounts of money to maintain it. . Time will tell. crispy_pants

10:02am Mon 9 Dec 13

madras says...

WTF is a 'coastal activity park' - it's the bloody seaside, beach / sand / sea / pier - get it right with some decent facilities (and not just crazy golf!) and it's a winning combination!
WTF is a 'coastal activity park' - it's the bloody seaside, beach / sand / sea / pier - get it right with some decent facilities (and not just crazy golf!) and it's a winning combination! madras

10:05am Mon 9 Dec 13

a.g.o.g. says...

So don`t waste more money by re-insuring its inevitable re-incarnation !
So don`t waste more money by re-insuring its inevitable re-incarnation ! a.g.o.g.

10:08am Mon 9 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

I hope they use the money sensibly i.e. to remove the reef and make the beach safe for bathers!
I hope they use the money sensibly i.e. to remove the reef and make the beach safe for bathers! jobsworthwatch

10:14am Mon 9 Dec 13

Derf says...

Hope they don't scare away the marine life that has moved in.
I was hoping to go snorkeling there for lobster once the water warms up a bit.
Hope they don't scare away the marine life that has moved in. I was hoping to go snorkeling there for lobster once the water warms up a bit. Derf

10:16am Mon 9 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

I expect the £300K will be spent on consultants to decide what to do with it, then several million quid of council tax money will be wasted on trying to fix something that is unfit for purpose. Why else do they think ASR have been liquidated? It's not because they provide fantastic solutions, very clearly! In fact, we heard a number of years ago that our wonderful councillors went on a jolly to New Zealand to see a similar creation by the same company, that also didn't work properly! I can only assume the contract was signed after dinner, and ASR were picking up the bar bill.....
I expect the £300K will be spent on consultants to decide what to do with it, then several million quid of council tax money will be wasted on trying to fix something that is unfit for purpose. Why else do they think ASR have been liquidated? It's not because they provide fantastic solutions, very clearly! In fact, we heard a number of years ago that our wonderful councillors went on a jolly to New Zealand to see a similar creation by the same company, that also didn't work properly! I can only assume the contract was signed after dinner, and ASR were picking up the bar bill..... speedy231278

10:16am Mon 9 Dec 13

joetheman says...

thought it was 1st April when I read the article , I thought nothing would surprise me regarding Bournemouth council and its out of touch councillors, clawed back £300k and want to plough it back into a failed project, you could not make it up , other oldies like me will remember the the very funny Brian Rix farces. well this farce is not funny and the idiot who proposed this should hang his/her head in shame, but then we all know this council acts for itself not the residents
thought it was 1st April when I read the article , I thought nothing would surprise me regarding Bournemouth council and its out of touch councillors, clawed back £300k and want to plough it back into a failed project, you could not make it up , other oldies like me will remember the the very funny Brian Rix farces. well this farce is not funny and the idiot who proposed this should hang his/her head in shame, but then we all know this council acts for itself not the residents joetheman

10:17am Mon 9 Dec 13

TheDistrict says...

BBC (Bournemouth Crazy Council)(Bournemouth Beach Cockup). The only thing that will open will be the canvas bags. If it cost 3.2m to build in the first place, how is 300k going to do the repair work required, to the damage caused by sheer shoddy workmanship, and not a boat propeller, unless it was council owned.

BBC, use the money to enhance what is alread working, and let the unused, unworked, useless surf reef become what it is good at. A Marine Life dwelling.
BBC (Bournemouth Crazy Council)(Bournemouth Beach Cockup). The only thing that will open will be the canvas bags. If it cost 3.2m to build in the first place, how is 300k going to do the repair work required, to the damage caused by sheer shoddy workmanship, and not a boat propeller, unless it was council owned. BBC, use the money to enhance what is alread working, and let the unused, unworked, useless surf reef become what it is good at. A Marine Life dwelling. TheDistrict

10:19am Mon 9 Dec 13

wonderway says...

Tourism chief Mark Smith said he hopes the reef will enhance a planned coastal activity park for the town's seafront.

What a farce this council is, you know it does not work. and you are going to spend 300,000 to put it back to where it was. There are more sane people in St Annes than there is in this council

also mark smith is so far into cuckoo land, first he said the old reef would be used as a dive area with special trinkets positioned to make it more interesting

now its going to be used for surfing, this man has not a clue

Old pinky face has put so much spin into this diabolical farce he believes its all true

It is time toface reality you were sold a pigs in a poke by ASR the councillors had free holiday in New Zealand and you wasted 3.6 million pounds of money that could have been put to better use.

Plus no one was ever dragged over the coals for this total farcical failure

Quit while your ahead
Tourism chief Mark Smith said he hopes the reef will enhance a planned coastal activity park for the town's seafront. What a farce this council is, you know it does not work. and you are going to spend 300,000 to put it back to where it was. There are more sane people in St Annes than there is in this council also mark smith is so far into cuckoo land, first he said the old reef would be used as a dive area with special trinkets positioned to make it more interesting now its going to be used for surfing, this man has not a clue Old pinky face has put so much spin into this diabolical farce he believes its all true It is time toface reality you were sold a pigs in a poke by ASR the councillors had free holiday in New Zealand and you wasted 3.6 million pounds of money that could have been put to better use. Plus no one was ever dragged over the coals for this total farcical failure Quit while your ahead wonderway

10:24am Mon 9 Dec 13

jinglebell says...

Professional surfers told them from the beginning that this is the wrong place and that very little surf would result irrespective of where it was positioned in B'mth. B'mth Council did not listen, and went ahead anyway.
If B'mth Council had any sense and were not so arrogant, they would leave what is left of this miserable surf reef alone and use the £300,000 for something more beneficial to the community.
Professional surfers told them from the beginning that this is the wrong place and that very little surf would result irrespective of where it was positioned in B'mth. B'mth Council did not listen, and went ahead anyway. If B'mth Council had any sense and were not so arrogant, they would leave what is left of this miserable surf reef alone and use the £300,000 for something more beneficial to the community. jinglebell

10:36am Mon 9 Dec 13

uberbloke says...

The source of the story...
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-dor
set-25235210
The source of the story... http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-dor set-25235210 uberbloke

10:41am Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Fantastic and a great view of the wind farm hopefully :)
Fantastic and a great view of the wind farm hopefully :) retry69

10:47am Mon 9 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

Just get Lloyd's to ring the Lutine Bell , but I don't know whether once or twice.
Just get Lloyd's to ring the Lutine Bell , but I don't know whether once or twice. Lord Spring

11:03am Mon 9 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

The only sensible thing to do with the £300,000 would be to spend it to clear away every last vestige of this disastrous and humiliating failure. Unfortunately it is likely that an Insurance pay out will have to be used to 'repair' the reef irrespective of the fact that the whole world knows it did not work long before any damage allegedly occurred.

In any other part of life nobody would dream of throwing such a vast sum into the sea after £3million pounds worth of already catastrophically wasted money But in the Council's and especially Mr Smith's increasingly bizarre and unaccountable little publicly bankrolled world this is after all only our money!

The worst point here is that clearly nothing has changed because the people responsible for this entire reef farce not only remain unquestionably in office at the Town Hall but they now have access to even more of our money - which they will use primarily to shore up their own completely untenable positions.
The only sensible thing to do with the £300,000 would be to spend it to clear away every last vestige of this disastrous and humiliating failure. Unfortunately it is likely that an Insurance pay out will have to be used to 'repair' the reef irrespective of the fact that the whole world knows it did not work long before any damage allegedly occurred. In any other part of life nobody would dream of throwing such a vast sum into the sea after £3million pounds worth of already catastrophically wasted money But in the Council's and especially Mr Smith's increasingly bizarre and unaccountable little publicly bankrolled world this is after all only our money! The worst point here is that clearly nothing has changed because the people responsible for this entire reef farce not only remain unquestionably in office at the Town Hall but they now have access to even more of our money - which they will use primarily to shore up their own completely untenable positions. muscliffman

11:21am Mon 9 Dec 13

Ash_69 says...

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WWWWHHHHHHYYYYYY!!!! !!! Ash_69

12:05pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Old Colonial says...

uberbloke wrote:
The source of the story...
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-england-dor

set-25235210
Thanks. Just shows how pathetic the journalists are at the Echo.
[quote][p][bold]uberbloke[/bold] wrote: The source of the story... http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-dor set-25235210[/p][/quote]Thanks. Just shows how pathetic the journalists are at the Echo. Old Colonial

12:23pm Mon 9 Dec 13

BarrHumbug says...

The thing didn't work before it was damaged so what they're doing then is ploughing £300k to transform it from one state of uselessness to a slightly different state of uselessness?
The thing didn't work before it was damaged so what they're doing then is ploughing £300k to transform it from one state of uselessness to a slightly different state of uselessness? BarrHumbug

12:24pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Bournefre says...

Who's going to fix the surf reef now ASR have gone bust? Simply throwing the £300k into the sea isn't going to help much. Far better to draw a line under this failed idea and move onto the next one; a zipwire on Bournemouth pier or something isn't it?
Who's going to fix the surf reef now ASR have gone bust? Simply throwing the £300k into the sea isn't going to help much. Far better to draw a line under this failed idea and move onto the next one; a zipwire on Bournemouth pier or something isn't it? Bournefre

12:34pm Mon 9 Dec 13

freedom for pokesdown says...

"damaged by a boat's propeller" - shame the Echo stated this as fact when it was just a theory and used as a fine excuse for the reef falling apart
"damaged by a boat's propeller" - shame the Echo stated this as fact when it was just a theory and used as a fine excuse for the reef falling apart freedom for pokesdown

12:38pm Mon 9 Dec 13

jobsworthwatch says...

It's going to reopen in April but it doesn't say that it is going to reopen as a surf reef!
It's going to reopen in April but it doesn't say that it is going to reopen as a surf reef! jobsworthwatch

12:43pm Mon 9 Dec 13

BmthNewshound says...

Pleased that the Council received £300k from the insurers but not happy that another £300k is being spent on this £3.2m white elephant - which when the £300k is spent will be a £3.5m white elephant.
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Of course Mark Smith is going to champion the surf reef, that's his job and to admit any different would be an admission that he has failed.
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Now ASR has gone bust the Council will have to find another specialist contractor. They will have to do surveys, submit reports and appoint project managers which won't leave much of the £300k to carry out the actual repairs. What's the betting that the taxpayer will once again be left to foot the bill when the £300k runs out.
Pleased that the Council received £300k from the insurers but not happy that another £300k is being spent on this £3.2m white elephant - which when the £300k is spent will be a £3.5m white elephant. . Of course Mark Smith is going to champion the surf reef, that's his job and to admit any different would be an admission that he has failed. . Now ASR has gone bust the Council will have to find another specialist contractor. They will have to do surveys, submit reports and appoint project managers which won't leave much of the £300k to carry out the actual repairs. What's the betting that the taxpayer will once again be left to foot the bill when the £300k runs out. BmthNewshound

12:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

hadvar says...

They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity.
They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity. hadvar

12:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

wonderway says...

if you read BBC news report

mark smith states the £306,000 will only HELP get reef back to it's useless waste of money useable state

also reef was CLOSED due big gaps between bags with the worry someone could get trapped between the bags NOT DUE TO PROP STRIKE

So Bournemouth council actual how much will it cost to repair the reefif 306,000 pounds will only assist in putting this total waste of tax payers money back togeteher again and still be unuseable due to no waves

we have already reach 4 million pounds

so be brave and give us the true cost of repairs

have they the b*lls to be truthful just once
if you read BBC news report mark smith states the £306,000 will only HELP get reef back to it's useless waste of money useable state also reef was CLOSED due big gaps between bags with the worry someone could get trapped between the bags NOT DUE TO PROP STRIKE So Bournemouth council actual how much will it cost to repair the reefif 306,000 pounds will only assist in putting this total waste of tax payers money back togeteher again and still be unuseable due to no waves we have already reach 4 million pounds so be brave and give us the true cost of repairs have they the b*lls to be truthful just once wonderway

12:51pm Mon 9 Dec 13

GarrySibbald says...

Presumably if it is an Insurance payout for the reef damage it probably has to be spent on the reef. My preference would be to use the payout to cover any future insurance costs, treat the reef as a lesson learnt and let it deteriorate naturally.
Presumably if it is an Insurance payout for the reef damage it probably has to be spent on the reef. My preference would be to use the payout to cover any future insurance costs, treat the reef as a lesson learnt and let it deteriorate naturally. GarrySibbald

12:53pm Mon 9 Dec 13

volval says...

Expect to see the "cabinet" down there in paddle boats carrying their sewing kits. Who else is going to cash in on mending it?
Expect to see the "cabinet" down there in paddle boats carrying their sewing kits. Who else is going to cash in on mending it? volval

1:40pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

wonderway wrote:
if you read BBC news report

mark smith states the £306,000 will only HELP get reef back to it's useless waste of money useable state

also reef was CLOSED due big gaps between bags with the worry someone could get trapped between the bags NOT DUE TO PROP STRIKE

So Bournemouth council actual how much will it cost to repair the reefif 306,000 pounds will only assist in putting this total waste of tax payers money back togeteher again and still be unuseable due to no waves

we have already reach 4 million pounds

so be brave and give us the true cost of repairs

have they the b*lls to be truthful just once
Perhaps somebody somewhere in the Council 'organisation' does not know what is meant by 'openness and transparency'.

It does not refer to the state of the bags and the clarity of the water !
[quote][p][bold]wonderway[/bold] wrote: if you read BBC news report mark smith states the £306,000 will only HELP get reef back to it's useless waste of money useable state also reef was CLOSED due big gaps between bags with the worry someone could get trapped between the bags NOT DUE TO PROP STRIKE So Bournemouth council actual how much will it cost to repair the reefif 306,000 pounds will only assist in putting this total waste of tax payers money back togeteher again and still be unuseable due to no waves we have already reach 4 million pounds so be brave and give us the true cost of repairs have they the b*lls to be truthful just once[/p][/quote]Perhaps somebody somewhere in the Council 'organisation' does not know what is meant by 'openness and transparency'. It does not refer to the state of the bags and the clarity of the water ! Ebb Tide

1:42pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

volval wrote:
Expect to see the "cabinet" down there in paddle boats carrying their sewing kits. Who else is going to cash in on mending it?
Can we expect a Navitus 'sweetener" ??
[quote][p][bold]volval[/bold] wrote: Expect to see the "cabinet" down there in paddle boats carrying their sewing kits. Who else is going to cash in on mending it?[/p][/quote]Can we expect a Navitus 'sweetener" ?? Ebb Tide

1:58pm Mon 9 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

hadvar wrote:
They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity.
Yes exactly, which is precisely why those central to this original ill considered project should have left their posts - if needs be by being sacked.

New incomers to the Town Hall would not seek to prop up their undeserved positions by pouring more public money at this reef, nor embark on any further projects without a little more competent care.

And don't overlook the reports that these very same 'reef' folk are about to be let loose with a £90million seafront redevelopment!
[quote][p][bold]hadvar[/bold] wrote: They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity.[/p][/quote]Yes exactly, which is precisely why those central to this original ill considered project should have left their posts - if needs be by being sacked. New incomers to the Town Hall would not seek to prop up their undeserved positions by pouring more public money at this reef, nor embark on any further projects without a little more competent care. And don't overlook the reports that these very same 'reef' folk are about to be let loose with a £90million seafront redevelopment! muscliffman

2:20pm Mon 9 Dec 13

TheDistrict says...

muscliffman wrote:
hadvar wrote:
They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity.
Yes exactly, which is precisely why those central to this original ill considered project should have left their posts - if needs be by being sacked.

New incomers to the Town Hall would not seek to prop up their undeserved positions by pouring more public money at this reef, nor embark on any further projects without a little more competent care.

And don't overlook the reports that these very same 'reef' folk are about to be let loose with a £90million seafront redevelopment!
Many of them from the original planning of this fiasco have gone off the radar, nothing heard from them in the reefs defence since the alleged damage was caused.

Boat damage. I dont think so. The way the reef has opened between each rib, and the number of splits along its length, this is damage caused by bad installation, and tidal movements which have been the blame by actual surfers in the past.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hadvar[/bold] wrote: They are desperately trying to justify the massive amount of money they have wasted, and therefore are refusing to accept the truth (The money already spent is, ironically, known as 'sunk costs'). They have gone so far with this project, they are unable to come back to reality. To be fair to them, this is a very common element of collective human behavior (many many examples from the MoD, NASA etc). It takes people of courage and character to 'fess up, admit they were wrong, and stop pouring good money after bad. It appears that no such people of courage and character exist on the council at the mo. Pity.[/p][/quote]Yes exactly, which is precisely why those central to this original ill considered project should have left their posts - if needs be by being sacked. New incomers to the Town Hall would not seek to prop up their undeserved positions by pouring more public money at this reef, nor embark on any further projects without a little more competent care. And don't overlook the reports that these very same 'reef' folk are about to be let loose with a £90million seafront redevelopment![/p][/quote]Many of them from the original planning of this fiasco have gone off the radar, nothing heard from them in the reefs defence since the alleged damage was caused. Boat damage. I dont think so. The way the reef has opened between each rib, and the number of splits along its length, this is damage caused by bad installation, and tidal movements which have been the blame by actual surfers in the past. TheDistrict

2:37pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Marcus Yardley says...

Wherever you see a diving school you see success. Is diving not a seaside activity? Why not just leave the reef as it is but open it for those who wish to see the sealife which have come to inhabit the area. It was never fit for purpose - the only waves it made related to the massive waste of public money. People who come to dive spend money in local businesses. The £300K could then be used more effectively elsewhere - or does someone on the council have a vested interest here as well?
Wherever you see a diving school you see success. Is diving not a seaside activity? Why not just leave the reef as it is but open it for those who wish to see the sealife which have come to inhabit the area. It was never fit for purpose - the only waves it made related to the massive waste of public money. People who come to dive spend money in local businesses. The £300K could then be used more effectively elsewhere - or does someone on the council have a vested interest here as well? Marcus Yardley

2:44pm Mon 9 Dec 13

David56 says...

What's the date, April 1st.? Surely this is just a joke, could anyone in their right mind plough more money into this?
What's the date, April 1st.? Surely this is just a joke, could anyone in their right mind plough more money into this? David56

2:56pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Bournefre says...

David56 wrote:
What's the date, April 1st.? Surely this is just a joke, could anyone in their right mind plough more money into this?
No, it's December 9th.
[quote][p][bold]David56[/bold] wrote: What's the date, April 1st.? Surely this is just a joke, could anyone in their right mind plough more money into this?[/p][/quote]No, it's December 9th. Bournefre

3:38pm Mon 9 Dec 13

surfer1 says...

If I remember there were three local U.K. company's working & supplying equipment on the reef project under the instruction of ASR, they also got caught by ASR. Should the council not approach them to see if they can assist as they seem to have had both the expertise & equipment to carry out any works to the reef, what ever way it goes.....?
If I remember there were three local U.K. company's working & supplying equipment on the reef project under the instruction of ASR, they also got caught by ASR. Should the council not approach them to see if they can assist as they seem to have had both the expertise & equipment to carry out any works to the reef, what ever way it goes.....? surfer1

3:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

SeafaringMan says...

Perhaps someone with greater knowledge of Hydrodynamics could inform me how a 'surf reef' can create surfable waves in an area where there is normally very little significant wave activity. If you want surf you will go to the Atlantic Coast of North Cornwall, not the English Channel Coast of East Dorset.
Perhaps someone with greater knowledge of Hydrodynamics could inform me how a 'surf reef' can create surfable waves in an area where there is normally very little significant wave activity. If you want surf you will go to the Atlantic Coast of North Cornwall, not the English Channel Coast of East Dorset. SeafaringMan

3:44pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Marcus Yardley says...

Whilst I have no doubt that any or all of the three companies working with ASR would be more than happy to take a load of our money off the hands of the Council the fact remains that the surf reef never worked and it is therefore a criminal waste to try to justify a failure by throwing even more money into the bottomless pit.
Whilst I have no doubt that any or all of the three companies working with ASR would be more than happy to take a load of our money off the hands of the Council the fact remains that the surf reef never worked and it is therefore a criminal waste to try to justify a failure by throwing even more money into the bottomless pit. Marcus Yardley

4:39pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

Give the money back to the tax payers.
Give the money back to the tax payers. mikeymagic

4:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

SeafaringMan wrote:
Perhaps someone with greater knowledge of Hydrodynamics could inform me how a 'surf reef' can create surfable waves in an area where there is normally very little significant wave activity. If you want surf you will go to the Atlantic Coast of North Cornwall, not the English Channel Coast of East Dorset.
Experts will probably laugh at the concept. But, if you contact a group of con artists in Oz they will tell you it's a fantastic opportunity and Boscombe will become the next Gold Coast overnight. Our council do not appear to be the brightest bunch.
[quote][p][bold]SeafaringMan[/bold] wrote: Perhaps someone with greater knowledge of Hydrodynamics could inform me how a 'surf reef' can create surfable waves in an area where there is normally very little significant wave activity. If you want surf you will go to the Atlantic Coast of North Cornwall, not the English Channel Coast of East Dorset.[/p][/quote]Experts will probably laugh at the concept. But, if you contact a group of con artists in Oz they will tell you it's a fantastic opportunity and Boscombe will become the next Gold Coast overnight. Our council do not appear to be the brightest bunch. mikeymagic

4:46pm Mon 9 Dec 13

John T says...

Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?! John T

4:54pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame. mikeymagic

4:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Bob49 says...

Curiously this wretched thing is now to be worked on and ''fixed' .... during mostly winter months. Whereas previously we were repeatedly told that work had to stop because of the possibility of bad weather, dark nights etc

The reality is that the council has to do something to try and persuade visitors back to that part of the beach as the place has become a ghost town, with bathers, families etc fearful of going anywhere what is quite a dangerous hazard. The reef never worked nor ever will, this is merely a means to remove the warning signs from around that part of the beach.

As this story comes from the BBC ho submitted a FOI request could the Daily Echo also submit a request to Bournemouth asking them

1. How much has been taken from the council's capital fund to cover failing sales of the surf pods ?

2. how much were the Hemingways paid in respect of these surf pods and is any more money due conditional to future sales ?

3. What was the cost of recent replacing of the beach opposite the reef that was washed away - and how frequently will this work need to be done in the future ?


ps previously the council told us "The council’s business case for the project also states that it will make best use of the existing artificial surf reef, without the council having to spend any more money on it."

So spend on it, or not ?

Perhaps the Daily Echo could ask the council this whilst submitting the FOI request.
Curiously this wretched thing is now to be worked on and ''fixed' .... during mostly winter months. Whereas previously we were repeatedly told that work had to stop because of the possibility of bad weather, dark nights etc The reality is that the council has to do something to try and persuade visitors back to that part of the beach as the place has become a ghost town, with bathers, families etc fearful of going anywhere what is quite a dangerous hazard. The reef never worked nor ever will, this is merely a means to remove the warning signs from around that part of the beach. As this story comes from the BBC ho submitted a FOI request could the Daily Echo also submit a request to Bournemouth asking them 1. How much has been taken from the council's capital fund to cover failing sales of the surf pods ? 2. how much were the Hemingways paid in respect of these surf pods and is any more money due conditional to future sales ? 3. What was the cost of recent replacing of the beach opposite the reef that was washed away - and how frequently will this work need to be done in the future ? ps previously the council told us "The council’s business case for the project also states that it will make best use of the existing artificial surf reef, without the council having to spend any more money on it." So spend on it, or not ? Perhaps the Daily Echo could ask the council this whilst submitting the FOI request. Bob49

4:58pm Mon 9 Dec 13

BarrHumbug says...

Maybe their going to re fill the bag with 60,000 £5 notes?
Maybe their going to re fill the bag with 60,000 £5 notes? BarrHumbug

4:58pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :) retry69

5:02pm Mon 9 Dec 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

Who are they getting to repair it?
Who are they getting to repair it? HRH of Boscombe

5:07pm Mon 9 Dec 13

grumpy om says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Just get Lloyd's to ring the Lutine Bell , but I don't know whether once or twice.
i think it might be more than twice as they don't seem to know when to when to stop wasting our money!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: Just get Lloyd's to ring the Lutine Bell , but I don't know whether once or twice.[/p][/quote]i think it might be more than twice as they don't seem to know when to when to stop wasting our money!!! grumpy om

5:07pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Marcus Yardley says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Who are they getting to repair it?
If it was a pile of shoes the answer would be a load of cobblers!
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: Who are they getting to repair it?[/p][/quote]If it was a pile of shoes the answer would be a load of cobblers! Marcus Yardley

5:10pm Mon 9 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

300 grand out of 3 million?
Bargain for the insurance company.
They obviously found a good portion of liability on the part of the Council.
So the Council have lost out both ways.
I certainly won't be using their insurers.
300 grand out of 3 million? Bargain for the insurance company. They obviously found a good portion of liability on the part of the Council. So the Council have lost out both ways. I certainly won't be using their insurers. BIGTONE

5:13pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched. Lord Spring

5:25pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Who are they getting to repair it?
My nan.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: Who are they getting to repair it?[/p][/quote]My nan. mikeymagic

5:35pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Bob49 says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Who are they getting to repair it?
Who ever it is I await the headline -

Boscombe the new Sandbags
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: Who are they getting to repair it?[/p][/quote]Who ever it is I await the headline - Boscombe the new Sandbags Bob49

5:42pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :) retry69

5:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

John T says...

retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
After the successful reappearance and magical disappearance of the New Zealand cast of ASR, I think Mark Smith was hoping to bring The Wizard of Oz and the Yellow Brick Road to a 'coastal activity park' near you.
He could star as Dorothy and John Beesley as the Tin Man with his hot air balloon. He is still looking for the Scarecrow who says ' Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't you think?' I understand pete woodley has been nominated for this part.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]After the successful reappearance and magical disappearance of the New Zealand cast of ASR, I think Mark Smith was hoping to bring The Wizard of Oz and the Yellow Brick Road to a 'coastal activity park' near you. He could star as Dorothy and John Beesley as the Tin Man with his hot air balloon. He is still looking for the Scarecrow who says ' Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't you think?' I understand pete woodley has been nominated for this part. John T

5:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

John T says...

Bob49 wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Who are they getting to repair it?
Who ever it is I await the headline -

Boscombe the new Sandbags
Bob 49
Next you will be expecting - Piers Morgan on Boscombe :)
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: Who are they getting to repair it?[/p][/quote]Who ever it is I await the headline - Boscombe the new Sandbags[/p][/quote]Bob 49 Next you will be expecting - Piers Morgan on Boscombe :) John T

6:04pm Mon 9 Dec 13

GAHmusic says...

speedy231278 wrote:
I expect the £300K will be spent on consultants to decide what to do with it, then several million quid of council tax money will be wasted on trying to fix something that is unfit for purpose. Why else do they think ASR have been liquidated? It's not because they provide fantastic solutions, very clearly! In fact, we heard a number of years ago that our wonderful councillors went on a jolly to New Zealand to see a similar creation by the same company, that also didn't work properly! I can only assume the contract was signed after dinner, and ASR were picking up the bar bill.....
Then £3.99 for the puncture repair kit :-)
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: I expect the £300K will be spent on consultants to decide what to do with it, then several million quid of council tax money will be wasted on trying to fix something that is unfit for purpose. Why else do they think ASR have been liquidated? It's not because they provide fantastic solutions, very clearly! In fact, we heard a number of years ago that our wonderful councillors went on a jolly to New Zealand to see a similar creation by the same company, that also didn't work properly! I can only assume the contract was signed after dinner, and ASR were picking up the bar bill.....[/p][/quote]Then £3.99 for the puncture repair kit :-) GAHmusic

6:13pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

John T wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
After the successful reappearance and magical disappearance of the New Zealand cast of ASR, I think Mark Smith was hoping to bring The Wizard of Oz and the Yellow Brick Road to a 'coastal activity park' near you.
He could star as Dorothy and John Beesley as the Tin Man with his hot air balloon. He is still looking for the Scarecrow who says ' Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't you think?' I understand pete woodley has been nominated for this part.
Now that's more like it some positive input at last,i thank you for that although a bit harsh on young Wooders I think :)
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]After the successful reappearance and magical disappearance of the New Zealand cast of ASR, I think Mark Smith was hoping to bring The Wizard of Oz and the Yellow Brick Road to a 'coastal activity park' near you. He could star as Dorothy and John Beesley as the Tin Man with his hot air balloon. He is still looking for the Scarecrow who says ' Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't you think?' I understand pete woodley has been nominated for this part.[/p][/quote]Now that's more like it some positive input at last,i thank you for that although a bit harsh on young Wooders I think :) retry69

6:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Carolyn43 says...

Didn't they say they had spare bags stored and rotting somewhere? All they need is to call for volunteers to turn up with buckets and spades to fill them with sand from the beach and hire a couple of small boats to haul the bags into place.
.........
Oh dear, Mark Smith will probably think that's a good idea!
Didn't they say they had spare bags stored and rotting somewhere? All they need is to call for volunteers to turn up with buckets and spades to fill them with sand from the beach and hire a couple of small boats to haul the bags into place. ......... Oh dear, Mark Smith will probably think that's a good idea! Carolyn43

6:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers Lord Spring

6:58pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :) retry69

7:01pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ? Ebb Tide

7:03pm Mon 9 Dec 13

ashleycross says...

Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once?
Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once? ashleycross

7:06pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
We are getting more bags of sand drowned.
[quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?[/p][/quote]We are getting more bags of sand drowned. Lord Spring

7:09pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
We are getting more bags of sand drowned.
Beach replenishment perhaps ?
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?[/p][/quote]We are getting more bags of sand drowned.[/p][/quote]Beach replenishment perhaps ? Ebb Tide

7:12pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :)
[quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?[/p][/quote]Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :) retry69

7:16pm Mon 9 Dec 13

surfer1 says...

The council had already taken possession & paid for the new bags to fix the reef & put them in storage, just before ASR done a bunk.
The council had already taken possession & paid for the new bags to fix the reef & put them in storage, just before ASR done a bunk. surfer1

7:17pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

ashleycross wrote:
Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once?
Nope, next question :)
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once?[/p][/quote]Nope, next question :) retry69

7:23pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

retry69 wrote:
Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :)
Will do but expect to be the only one prepared to support your exciting venture. When can I expect to see the script ? Hope it is not being carved in stone - it should be more flexible and not so heavy.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?[/p][/quote]Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :)[/p][/quote]Will do but expect to be the only one prepared to support your exciting venture. When can I expect to see the script ? Hope it is not being carved in stone - it should be more flexible and not so heavy. Ebb Tide

7:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ebb Tide wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)
O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers
I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)
Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?
Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :)
Will do but expect to be the only one prepared to support your exciting venture. When can I expect to see the script ? Hope it is not being carved in stone - it should be more flexible and not so heavy.
Thank you for your support but don't under estimate your fellow commenters, I am confident in spreading a warmth family feeling to the Echo readers by next July and the summer panto will be the icing on the cake :) ps People ridiculed me for my efforts, some quite rude but slowly they are coming round, I have now more names than the protesters of the wind farm so beware :)
[quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]We are opening 20th December,i wish you would pay attention,there are no chickens in it and no Dick as someone suggested rather rudely last week :)[/p][/quote]O K Can I be Priscilla” next year in Mother Goose,. sorry to drive you Quackers[/p][/quote]I will ******* goose you,you young whippersnapper :)[/p][/quote]Getting back to the subject, are we having bags of fun ?[/p][/quote]Its all very well you being like that but the surf reef will still be there in January half the commenters may not be so lets get priorities in order mmm.Also why im at it I am writing and directing my own panto for Summer 2014 entitled "The living fossils of Dorset" I expect a high volume of applicants so please get in early to avoid disappointment :)[/p][/quote]Will do but expect to be the only one prepared to support your exciting venture. When can I expect to see the script ? Hope it is not being carved in stone - it should be more flexible and not so heavy.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your support but don't under estimate your fellow commenters, I am confident in spreading a warmth family feeling to the Echo readers by next July and the summer panto will be the icing on the cake :) ps People ridiculed me for my efforts, some quite rude but slowly they are coming round, I have now more names than the protesters of the wind farm so beware :) retry69

8:01pm Mon 9 Dec 13

GAHmusic says...

ashleycross wrote:
Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once?
It's not negativity at the sport it's the council incompetance that means nobody fit, young or whatever can use it that they are anti
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: Why is the echo so anti anything popular with young fit active people? Wasn't anyone on the echo ever young and fun once?[/p][/quote]It's not negativity at the sport it's the council incompetance that means nobody fit, young or whatever can use it that they are anti GAHmusic

8:06pm Mon 9 Dec 13

fireflier says...

It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!'

Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right!

What a total emperors new clothes issue this is.
It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!' Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right! What a total emperors new clothes issue this is. fireflier

8:15pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Tango Charlie says...

1. Ask any old soldier what happens to a bag full of sand in the wet after a few months..
2. Research why you get a curl and a big wave...
1. Ask any old soldier what happens to a bag full of sand in the wet after a few months.. 2. Research why you get a curl and a big wave... Tango Charlie

8:20pm Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

fireflier wrote:
It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!'

Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right!

What a total emperors new clothes issue this is.
See even the hardened commenters are getting into the spirit "The Emperors New Clothes" brilliant panto. any others ? :)
[quote][p][bold]fireflier[/bold] wrote: It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!' Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right! What a total emperors new clothes issue this is.[/p][/quote]See even the hardened commenters are getting into the spirit "The Emperors New Clothes" brilliant panto. any others ? :) retry69

8:34pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Marcus Yardley says...

Square Deal Surf - washing powder or masonic councillors with £300K to spend?
Square Deal Surf - washing powder or masonic councillors with £300K to spend? Marcus Yardley

10:51pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Yankee1 says...

This sage is so funny.

There are no surfable waves off Boscombe. Try Newquay.

Rubes.
This sage is so funny. There are no surfable waves off Boscombe. Try Newquay. Rubes. Yankee1

6:08am Tue 10 Dec 13

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

A nice little christmas bonus...............
A nice little christmas bonus............... Letcommonsenseprevail

7:39am Tue 10 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
fireflier wrote:
It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!'

Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right!

What a total emperors new clothes issue this is.
See even the hardened commenters are getting into the spirit "The Emperors New Clothes" brilliant panto. any others ? :)
It has got to be Mother Goose so that I can lay the Golden Egg for the Councillors of this town.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fireflier[/bold] wrote: It's going to reopen so more of the sand can spill out of the opening and even more money will be 'peesed into the ocean!!!' Oh look ....a working surf reef! Yea right! What a total emperors new clothes issue this is.[/p][/quote]See even the hardened commenters are getting into the spirit "The Emperors New Clothes" brilliant panto. any others ? :)[/p][/quote]It has got to be Mother Goose so that I can lay the Golden Egg for the Councillors of this town. Lord Spring

7:42am Tue 10 Dec 13

Dr Strangelove says...

More evidence if you need it that this council is whipping its &r$e with tax payers cash and flushing it away.
More evidence if you need it that this council is whipping its &r$e with tax payers cash and flushing it away. Dr Strangelove

8:09am Tue 10 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
John T wrote:
Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?!
He does look like a panto dame.
There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)
April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.
Sorry I missed the pun in this one, I am slipping up "Spring Chickens " very good,far above my intelligence :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't Mark Smith let the Christmas Pantomime Season at the Town Hall finish, before he foists April Fool pranks on the long suffering Bournemouth Council Taxpayers?![/p][/quote]He does look like a panto dame.[/p][/quote]There are still the parts of happy and bashful available in the echo commenters panto of Snow White this year,perhaps he could fill one of those ? :)[/p][/quote]April opening sounds like someone counting their chickens before they are hatched.[/p][/quote]Sorry I missed the pun in this one, I am slipping up "Spring Chickens " very good,far above my intelligence :) retry69

9:44am Tue 10 Dec 13

A simpleton says...

I see from the BBC news website that they made a Freedom of Information request to Bournemouth Council to establish what Insurance payments had been made regarding the reef. (Does this mean they were not keen on giving this information out !!) It was established that after 2 years wait 2 payments were made of £171,531 and £135,000 in respect of an unidentified boat propeller which were to HELP with the rectification.
It might interest some as to what insurance cover we have - presumably its a bit more than Fire, Theft and water damage - what its costs are and whether there is an excess. In addition how much extra is to be put for rectification and how long will it take. All these costs are in addition to the 'payout'.
May I offer another scenario. Once all is repaired another unidentified boat strike occurs. Do we close it for another two years awaiting payment ? Oh and what about the surfer who injures himself ?
To me there are too many unanswered questions so guess what I would do with the reef ??
Just a thought.
I see from the BBC news website that they made a Freedom of Information request to Bournemouth Council to establish what Insurance payments had been made regarding the reef. (Does this mean they were not keen on giving this information out !!) It was established that after 2 years wait 2 payments were made of £171,531 and £135,000 in respect of an unidentified boat propeller which were to HELP with the rectification. It might interest some as to what insurance cover we have - presumably its a bit more than Fire, Theft and water damage - what its costs are and whether there is an excess. In addition how much extra is to be put for rectification and how long will it take. All these costs are in addition to the 'payout'. May I offer another scenario. Once all is repaired another unidentified boat strike occurs. Do we close it for another two years awaiting payment ? Oh and what about the surfer who injures himself ? To me there are too many unanswered questions so guess what I would do with the reef ?? Just a thought. A simpleton

9:52am Tue 10 Dec 13

cheeriedriteup says...

Wave goodbye to 300k then
Wave goodbye to 300k then cheeriedriteup

12:44pm Tue 10 Dec 13

jaysun says...

Perhaps some counillors could have a trip to Newquay before April.See how surf & surfing is handled there.
Perhaps some counillors could have a trip to Newquay before April.See how surf & surfing is handled there. jaysun

1:00pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Gordon Cann says...

Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ?
Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ? Gordon Cann

1:41pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Ebb Tide says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ?
Did it also not involve the loss of a car park for a development dependent upon a surf reef ?
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ?[/p][/quote]Did it also not involve the loss of a car park for a development dependent upon a surf reef ? Ebb Tide

1:42pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Gordon Cann says...

Correction, last line
'£3 million'
Correction, last line '£3 million' Gordon Cann

4:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Dorset Logic says...

It will magnify the English channel waves x10.

What's 0 x 10?
It will magnify the English channel waves x10. What's 0 x 10? Dorset Logic

7:00pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Bob49 says...

Ebb Tide wrote:
Gordon Cann wrote:
Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ?
Did it also not involve the loss of a car park for a development dependent upon a surf reef ?
That wa the cover story at the time - the justification of handing over public owned asset to private developers.

Virtually NONE of the listed benefits or developments ever transpired.

What have left is a stretch of beach that has become deserted and needed tens of thousands of pounds spent on replenishing it. Ironically from Southbourne where beach goers have now decamped as it is safer and there is parking.

The much acclaimed surf pods (now called beach pods) remain overwhelmingly unsold leaving a debt of over £2m.

The reef is a laughing stock and has not generated te 13 ft waves, the 10, 000 surf visits or the 90 new jobs.

The pier is not the hub of entertainment it was supposed to be, nor is the space opposite which was supposed to be an attractive open piazza. The lights on the pier were out for months as the contractors had failed to allow for sea water getting in them ! It was the council who had to finally cough up for the repairs.

Boscombe has not been regenerated nor is it the new Sandbanks..

The development of the carpark allowed for 169 properties of which the cheapest started at £375,000 and rose to over £1m. You don't need to be a mathematician to work out where all the interest was focused - and why it was so vital for some to get this off the ground. Who cared what happened after THAT was voted through. Evidence of which is plain to see.

Otherwise locals are left with massive debts and long running costs that will remain for somewhile...........
.... as well a number of rusting heaps of scrap (cynically called art) dumped up Sea Road
[quote][p][bold]Ebb Tide[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: Surely a great deal of water has gone over the Surf Reef since it was last used and given the comment of Councillor Ben Grower, Chairman of the vitally important Audit and Governance Committee ,(due to meet on Wednesday) ,this is 'a complete waste'surely in any kind of healthy democracy a much fuller explanation is required, This project started out under £2 million in costs it has exceeded so far £million-all public money, who if anyone is in charge ?[/p][/quote]Did it also not involve the loss of a car park for a development dependent upon a surf reef ?[/p][/quote]That wa the cover story at the time - the justification of handing over public owned asset to private developers. Virtually NONE of the listed benefits or developments ever transpired. What have left is a stretch of beach that has become deserted and needed tens of thousands of pounds spent on replenishing it. Ironically from Southbourne where beach goers have now decamped as it is safer and there is parking. The much acclaimed surf pods (now called beach pods) remain overwhelmingly unsold leaving a debt of over £2m. The reef is a laughing stock and has not generated te 13 ft waves, the 10, 000 surf visits or the 90 new jobs. The pier is not the hub of entertainment it was supposed to be, nor is the space opposite which was supposed to be an attractive open piazza. The lights on the pier were out for months as the contractors had failed to allow for sea water getting in them ! It was the council who had to finally cough up for the repairs. Boscombe has not been regenerated nor is it the new Sandbanks.. The development of the carpark allowed for 169 properties of which the cheapest started at £375,000 and rose to over £1m. You don't need to be a mathematician to work out where all the interest was focused - and why it was so vital for some to get this off the ground. Who cared what happened after THAT was voted through. Evidence of which is plain to see. Otherwise locals are left with massive debts and long running costs that will remain for somewhile........... .... as well a number of rusting heaps of scrap (cynically called art) dumped up Sea Road Bob49

9:54pm Tue 10 Dec 13

wonderway says...

.... as well a number of rusting heaps of scrap (cynically called art) dumped up Sea Road

also within this project was a wheel chair ramp for Boscombe beach

it was made out of teak cost a fortune last seen dumped under boscombe pier

where is that now certain people in sea front services cover that farce up too paid a certain person in council to run that project who was a total waste of space he did not have a clue

bit like senior officer in charge of reef he bot promoted to chief executive of council tells you all
.... as well a number of rusting heaps of scrap (cynically called art) dumped up Sea Road also within this project was a wheel chair ramp for Boscombe beach it was made out of teak cost a fortune last seen dumped under boscombe pier where is that now certain people in sea front services cover that farce up too paid a certain person in council to run that project who was a total waste of space he did not have a clue bit like senior officer in charge of reef he bot promoted to chief executive of council tells you all wonderway

5:12am Wed 11 Dec 13

grumpy om says...

perhaps this has already been suggested but just across the bay is one of the best places in the country for stone,would it not be possible to transport a quantity of this by boat and dump it where the bags of sand were and make a permanant reef,it would need no maintenance and would last for thousands of years and would also be a haven for marine life,i expect there will be some comments that there would be health and safety issues over this idea !!!.
perhaps this has already been suggested but just across the bay is one of the best places in the country for stone,would it not be possible to transport a quantity of this by boat and dump it where the bags of sand were and make a permanant reef,it would need no maintenance and would last for thousands of years and would also be a haven for marine life,i expect there will be some comments that there would be health and safety issues over this idea !!!. grumpy om

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