Stray dog savages chickens in Poole garden

Bournemouth Echo: HEARTBROKEN: Lisa Roberts holding feathers left beside the chicken coop in her Creekmoor garden, after a dog killed her chickens HEARTBROKEN: Lisa Roberts holding feathers left beside the chicken coop in her Creekmoor garden, after a dog killed her chickens

A STRAY dog caused carnage in a Poole garden when it savaged four chickens.

But when their distraught owner shut the dog in her house and demanded an apology from its owner, police threatened her with a caution for ‘kidnap’, said Lisa Roberts.

She has now made an official complaint to Dorset Police over the way two officers dealt with the incident at Spruce Close, Creekmoor.

It began at around 7am on Wednesday when a neighbour alerted the family to a dog attacking the chickens, which had been let out from their coop.

“I came flying out of the house,” said Lisa, 42. “This dog had eaten four of my chickens.

“There was blood and feathers everywhere. It was horrible.”

She caught the dog, a spaniel-cross-Jack Russell, and found a phone number which she rang, while upset husband Steven, 47, attempted to clear up the mess before daughter Molly, six, went out to collect the eggs.

“It was carnage,” she said.

“My husband was so upset, they are like his pets.”

One chicken, still in the coop survived but the dog made frantic efforts to get it. She said a woman came to the house to collect the dog but would not apologise and Mrs Roberts would not release the dog until she did.

The incident escalated when the dog’s owner called up reinforcements, and four cars turned up. Lisa called the police when men banged on the window and threatened her.

“All I wanted was an apology and they wouldn’t do it,” she said. “The police said it was not a criminal offence by the dog coming in and eating my chickens. It was a criminal offence by me kidnapping a dog,” she said. “I couldn’t believe it. I’m the victim.”

One of the officers made a personal comment about her she said, and a police spokesman confirmed that a complaint has been made and police are looking into it. No arrests have been made and the spokesman said the dog incident was a civil not a criminal matter.

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7:18am Mon 9 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker

I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach
Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach Lord Spring

7:58am Mon 9 Dec 13

Peroni says...

Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ! Peroni

8:14am Mon 9 Dec 13

yet_another_one says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker

I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach
Your first comment is absolutely appalling and not funny at all - these chickens belonged to a family who thought the world of them, their pets.
Scum dog owners, what would an apology cost them - absolutely nothing but a little pride perhaps. Then to summon help with four cars turning up, the occupants of which then banged on windows is behaviour not befitting normal and decent human beings - almost unbelievable.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach[/p][/quote]Your first comment is absolutely appalling and not funny at all - these chickens belonged to a family who thought the world of them, their pets. Scum dog owners, what would an apology cost them - absolutely nothing but a little pride perhaps. Then to summon help with four cars turning up, the occupants of which then banged on windows is behaviour not befitting normal and decent human beings - almost unbelievable. yet_another_one

8:22am Mon 9 Dec 13

yet_another_one says...

Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
Agree wholeheartedly - apparently, Australian law allows livestock owners to kill dogs who savage their animals.
Should the Police have involved the RSPCA in this case - they could raise a summons on the dog owners.
[quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]Agree wholeheartedly - apparently, Australian law allows livestock owners to kill dogs who savage their animals. Should the Police have involved the RSPCA in this case - they could raise a summons on the dog owners. yet_another_one

8:26am Mon 9 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker

I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach
Not a popular comment by the look of it but I am more concerned about your declining line of humour I hope that you have not been influenced by anyone else or the impending Panto line up,have a good day mlud :) As for the comment about it could have been a child as much as I would have expected the owners of the dog to face some sort of punishment,liking an attack on chickens to attack of a child is ridiculous, also I wonder how a stray dog was able to get in and the chickens not get out,just a thought as if I had chickens in my garden I would certainly have is secured enough to not allow any intrusion for all concened.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: Dog ate 4 chickens !!!! killed yes but ate 4, must have been a fast plucker I have been told that raw chicken bones are not so harmful as cooked chicken bones to dogs which will puncture their stomach[/p][/quote]Not a popular comment by the look of it but I am more concerned about your declining line of humour I hope that you have not been influenced by anyone else or the impending Panto line up,have a good day mlud :) As for the comment about it could have been a child as much as I would have expected the owners of the dog to face some sort of punishment,liking an attack on chickens to attack of a child is ridiculous, also I wonder how a stray dog was able to get in and the chickens not get out,just a thought as if I had chickens in my garden I would certainly have is secured enough to not allow any intrusion for all concened. retry69

9:22am Mon 9 Dec 13

Hurn08 says...

Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
100% agree.

I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home!
[quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]100% agree. I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home! Hurn08

9:25am Mon 9 Dec 13

elite50 says...

Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
Should have killed the dog???
Watch it, the lunatic fringe (dog owners), will be out to get you!
I have to agree with you, well said.
[quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]Should have killed the dog??? Watch it, the lunatic fringe (dog owners), will be out to get you! I have to agree with you, well said. elite50

9:34am Mon 9 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

The chicken owner should have skinned the naughty dog
and put him in the oven
see how the dog owners like the tables turned on them
the hens could have quite easily killed the dog you know
naughty doggie.
The chicken owner should have skinned the naughty dog and put him in the oven see how the dog owners like the tables turned on them the hens could have quite easily killed the dog you know naughty doggie. nickynoodah

10:26am Mon 9 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

Welcome to Britain, where the victim is almost always punished for the crime!
Welcome to Britain, where the victim is almost always punished for the crime! speedy231278

10:29am Mon 9 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

Hurn08 wrote:
Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
100% agree.

I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home!
Complete scum. May a larger dog appear in their garden and have a go at theirs. Then I wonder how flippantly they'll look at savagery of animals in their own back garden!
[quote][p][bold]Hurn08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]100% agree. I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home![/p][/quote]Complete scum. May a larger dog appear in their garden and have a go at theirs. Then I wonder how flippantly they'll look at savagery of animals in their own back garden! speedy231278

10:46am Mon 9 Dec 13

NewsHound121 says...

If i was the chicken owner i would contact the RSPCA and not leave it to the police, perhaps by doing so some sort of action can be taken. Dog owners have a responsilbility to keep their animals under control, and if they are unable to do so then i feel that somebody such as the RSPCA should be able to step in and remove the dog.
The chicken owner had a right to be angry and upset and all she wanted was a simple apology. It is such a shame that the owner of the dog was not able to offer this, it would have been the least she could have done, surely. If i was this dog owner not only would i have apologised i would have also offered to have paid for the damage, as well as replaced the chickens. This would have been the decent and the right thing to have done. Take responsibility for your actions.
If i was the chicken owner i would contact the RSPCA and not leave it to the police, perhaps by doing so some sort of action can be taken. Dog owners have a responsilbility to keep their animals under control, and if they are unable to do so then i feel that somebody such as the RSPCA should be able to step in and remove the dog. The chicken owner had a right to be angry and upset and all she wanted was a simple apology. It is such a shame that the owner of the dog was not able to offer this, it would have been the least she could have done, surely. If i was this dog owner not only would i have apologised i would have also offered to have paid for the damage, as well as replaced the chickens. This would have been the decent and the right thing to have done. Take responsibility for your actions. NewsHound121

10:47am Mon 9 Dec 13

Chris the plumber says...

As a dog owner and also free range chickens keeper I can understand this ladies annoyance at losing four chickens. I have had two of my chickens killed by a dog, a visitor with what looked to me like a friendly dog but alas it saw the chickens and attacked and got two before it could be restrained, I did feel sorry for the dog owner as his dog had never seen chickens before and he paid to replace the chickens. It happens, as for calling the police I am sure they have far more important things to do. But if someone exhibited a threatening stance towards me that would be a police matter, this case seems to be case of a lady not taking good care of her chickens ( securing there garden/ run) and blaming everyone else including the police. if a dog can get in so can a fox.
As a dog owner and also free range chickens keeper I can understand this ladies annoyance at losing four chickens. I have had two of my chickens killed by a dog, a visitor with what looked to me like a friendly dog but alas it saw the chickens and attacked and got two before it could be restrained, I did feel sorry for the dog owner as his dog had never seen chickens before and he paid to replace the chickens. It happens, as for calling the police I am sure they have far more important things to do. But if someone exhibited a threatening stance towards me that would be a police matter, this case seems to be case of a lady not taking good care of her chickens ( securing there garden/ run) and blaming everyone else including the police. if a dog can get in so can a fox. Chris the plumber

11:08am Mon 9 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

, this case seems to be case of a lady not taking good care of her chickens


Same as you then George !!!!!!!!!!!
, this case seems to be case of a lady not taking good care of her chickens Same as you then George !!!!!!!!!!! nickynoodah

11:58am Mon 9 Dec 13

mgibbs says...

Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.
Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case. mgibbs

1:42pm Mon 9 Dec 13

utciad says...

As usual, clueless coppers. Can't even sort out the villain of the piece, even when confronted with the evidence under their noses!!!

As always, victimise the victim and pander to the perpatrator!!!

Dorset Constabulary, Hang your heads in shame!!

Where is our much vaunted Martin Underhand sorry Underhill these days??

Gone very quiet recently hasn't he, considering all the noise he was making to get elected. Deafening silence since I notice!!
As usual, clueless coppers. Can't even sort out the villain of the piece, even when confronted with the evidence under their noses!!! As always, victimise the victim and pander to the perpatrator!!! Dorset Constabulary, Hang your heads in shame!! Where is our much vaunted Martin Underhand sorry Underhill these days?? Gone very quiet recently hasn't he, considering all the noise he was making to get elected. Deafening silence since I notice!! utciad

2:08pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Dorset Logic says...

No harm in locking the dog up to prevent further attacks / damage.
Would seem like the sensible thing to do. You may not get the same from inspector corner of the yard however.

Sadly expecting an apology from some people may be a long wait. Put better fencing up around your garden I'm afraid to help prevent a re-occurrence.
No harm in locking the dog up to prevent further attacks / damage. Would seem like the sensible thing to do. You may not get the same from inspector corner of the yard however. Sadly expecting an apology from some people may be a long wait. Put better fencing up around your garden I'm afraid to help prevent a re-occurrence. Dorset Logic

2:59pm Mon 9 Dec 13

harrythered says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
Agree wholeheartedly - apparently, Australian law allows livestock owners to kill dogs who savage their animals.
Should the Police have involved the RSPCA in this case - they could raise a summons on the dog owners.
English law allows farmers to shoot dogs that attack their livestock too.
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]Agree wholeheartedly - apparently, Australian law allows livestock owners to kill dogs who savage their animals. Should the Police have involved the RSPCA in this case - they could raise a summons on the dog owners.[/p][/quote]English law allows farmers to shoot dogs that attack their livestock too. harrythered

3:02pm Mon 9 Dec 13

lilliputian says...

Hurn08 wrote:
Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
100% agree.

I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home!
Another example of the Police mis-handling a situation and treating the victim as the person at fault.
[quote][p][bold]Hurn08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]100% agree. I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home![/p][/quote]Another example of the Police mis-handling a situation and treating the victim as the person at fault. lilliputian

3:13pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mcadder says...

lilliputian wrote:
Hurn08 wrote:
Peroni wrote:
Should have killed the dog !
End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late !
100% agree.

I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home!
Another example of the Police mis-handling a situation and treating the victim as the person at fault.
And the police wonder why the public have no respect for them any more .....
[quote][p][bold]lilliputian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hurn08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Should have killed the dog ! End off ...no arguments ,no more attacks,maybe next time it might be a child,then the police might do something ......but as usual when it's too late ![/p][/quote]100% agree. I hope she gets somewhere with her complaint against the Police, who are totally in the wrong in my opinion. Oh and the dog owners should be careful it doesn't turn on them seeing as they're so 'chicken' they have to get four car loads of people to turn up to threaten a woman in her own home![/p][/quote]Another example of the Police mis-handling a situation and treating the victim as the person at fault.[/p][/quote]And the police wonder why the public have no respect for them any more ..... mcadder

4:53pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures.
I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures. mikeymagic

5:07pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Chris the plumber says...

mgibbs wrote:
Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.
the story came from Lisa Roberts, so it`s from her side of things all Dorset police said was a complaint had been made I don't think M G Gibbs
dos`nt like Dorset police may be she/ he has had a few speeding tickets !!
[quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.[/p][/quote]the story came from Lisa Roberts, so it`s from her side of things all Dorset police said was a complaint had been made I don't think M G Gibbs dos`nt like Dorset police may be she/ he has had a few speeding tickets !! Chris the plumber

5:27pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

mikeymagic wrote:
I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures.
I'd like whoever gave this a negative comment to put their case forward?
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures.[/p][/quote]I'd like whoever gave this a negative comment to put their case forward? mikeymagic

5:27pm Mon 9 Dec 13

lisa41 says...

My cat was killed in my back garden by a visitors dogs.I had previously asked this person not to visit with the dogs. My son opened the door the dogs unleashed ran thru the house to the back garden and killed our cat. I wasn't home.I found my cat when I came home.My son said the visitor had trouble getting the dogs out of the garden and back into his car. So clearly it was his dogs that killed our cat. The police weren't interested as they didn't force entry , as my son opened the door.The dogs owner offered to buy us another cat ! But wouldn't accept responsibility he said our dog could have killed him. We have a lab,(They lived together for 9 years and never fought). Highly unlikely. Our cat was 21.Some people just shouldn't own dogs as they don't keep them under control.. I
My cat was killed in my back garden by a visitors dogs.I had previously asked this person not to visit with the dogs. My son opened the door the dogs unleashed ran thru the house to the back garden and killed our cat. I wasn't home.I found my cat when I came home.My son said the visitor had trouble getting the dogs out of the garden and back into his car. So clearly it was his dogs that killed our cat. The police weren't interested as they didn't force entry , as my son opened the door.The dogs owner offered to buy us another cat ! But wouldn't accept responsibility he said our dog could have killed him. We have a lab,(They lived together for 9 years and never fought). Highly unlikely. Our cat was 21.Some people just shouldn't own dogs as they don't keep them under control.. I lisa41

5:53pm Mon 9 Dec 13

GAHmusic says...

mgibbs wrote:
Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.
A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did.
[quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.[/p][/quote]A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did. GAHmusic

5:54pm Mon 9 Dec 13

mikeymagic says...

mikeymagic wrote:
mikeymagic wrote:
I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures.
I'd like whoever gave this a negative comment to put their case forward?
Perhaps you're the owner or one of the heros who turned up?
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: I own two dogs of a breed which gains pretty poor comments. However, if one of them had done this not only would I apologise I would also work with the victim to do whatever possible to make things better. Bringing round your mates and intimidating people is just not the way. What happened to civilised people? And before anyone comments, if my dog posed a real threat I would take the necessary measures.[/p][/quote]I'd like whoever gave this a negative comment to put their case forward?[/p][/quote]Perhaps you're the owner or one of the heros who turned up? mikeymagic

12:41am Tue 10 Dec 13

Gordon Clifton says...

I suspect there's a bit more to this than meets the eye. Four cars with what sounds like aggressive people in them. Who were these people? Why weren't they at work or on their way to work? Answers to these questions might show matters in a very different light.
I suspect there's a bit more to this than meets the eye. Four cars with what sounds like aggressive people in them. Who were these people? Why weren't they at work or on their way to work? Answers to these questions might show matters in a very different light. Gordon Clifton

7:30am Tue 10 Dec 13

Peroni says...

Gordon Clifton wrote:
I suspect there's a bit more to this than meets the eye. Four cars with what sounds like aggressive people in them. Who were these people? Why weren't they at work or on their way to work? Answers to these questions might show matters in a very different light.
Prob from the hare coursing and ferret owners club , just going to visit the lady to say thanks for looking after little doggy .........
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Clifton[/bold] wrote: I suspect there's a bit more to this than meets the eye. Four cars with what sounds like aggressive people in them. Who were these people? Why weren't they at work or on their way to work? Answers to these questions might show matters in a very different light.[/p][/quote]Prob from the hare coursing and ferret owners club , just going to visit the lady to say thanks for looking after little doggy ......... Peroni

7:43am Tue 10 Dec 13

notapeopleperson says...

the police didnt do anything about the 4 cars turning up to a family home and threatening the owners with a child inside the house. typical dorset police work avoidance at its best, so much for restoring the publics faith and "community policing" if i was the owner i would make the biggest fuss possible, complain to the ipcc, write to the national press and home secetery. dont let the police fob you off
the police didnt do anything about the 4 cars turning up to a family home and threatening the owners with a child inside the house. typical dorset police work avoidance at its best, so much for restoring the publics faith and "community policing" if i was the owner i would make the biggest fuss possible, complain to the ipcc, write to the national press and home secetery. dont let the police fob you off notapeopleperson

9:16am Tue 10 Dec 13

mgibbs says...

GAHmusic wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.
A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did.
No. Poultry do not need to be registered with DEFRA unless you have more than 50. If the animals are for the provision of food or animal products, then they are covered by the livestock act irrespective of how many there are. A private garden can be classed as agricultural property is is is used for keeping animals for the above purpose.
[quote][p][bold]GAHmusic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.[/p][/quote]A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did.[/p][/quote]No. Poultry do not need to be registered with DEFRA unless you have more than 50. If the animals are for the provision of food or animal products, then they are covered by the livestock act irrespective of how many there are. A private garden can be classed as agricultural property is is is used for keeping animals for the above purpose. mgibbs

5:50pm Tue 10 Dec 13

GAHmusic says...

mgibbs wrote:
GAHmusic wrote:
mgibbs wrote:
Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.
A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did.
No. Poultry do not need to be registered with DEFRA unless you have more than 50. If the animals are for the provision of food or animal products, then they are covered by the livestock act irrespective of how many there are. A private garden can be classed as agricultural property is is is used for keeping animals for the above purpose.
Thanks, interesting
[quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GAHmusic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mgibbs[/bold] wrote: Yet more incompetence and stupidity by Dorset police. It staggers me how little legal knowledge most police officers have. The owners of the dog can face criminal prosecution under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953. The dog owners can also be subject to a civil Tort prosecution under the Animals Act 1971. The lady whose chickens had been killed cannot be charged with kidnap, as kidnap laws do not apply to animals. It is posible that she could be charged with theft of the dog, but it would then have to be proven that she intended to permanently deprive the dog owners of their property which does not appear to be the case.[/p][/quote]A very good point I completely agree but to constitute an offence under the Protection of Livestock act would the chickens not be required to be registered with DEFRA or some sort of small holding right on the land otherwise they would be concideered pets? I don't know myself I wondered if you did.[/p][/quote]No. Poultry do not need to be registered with DEFRA unless you have more than 50. If the animals are for the provision of food or animal products, then they are covered by the livestock act irrespective of how many there are. A private garden can be classed as agricultural property is is is used for keeping animals for the above purpose.[/p][/quote]Thanks, interesting GAHmusic

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