Wave of protest from residents over plans to replace disused church with student housing

Bournemouth Echo: PROTESTS: The Apostolic Church at Victoria Park Road PROTESTS: The Apostolic Church at Victoria Park Road

PLANS to replace a disused church with a student housing block have sparked a wave of protest from residents.

Residents of the Victoria Park area of Bournemouth fear that replacing a former Apostolic Church with accommodation for 46 students will change the character of the area and increase noise and antisocial behaviour. They are also concerned that just three parking spaces are planned.

More than 40 people have submitted objections to Bournemouth council, urging planners to reject the proposals.

The plans have been put forward by planning agent Ken Parke Planning Consultants on behalf of Barton Estates UK Limited. They claim building new purpose-built accommodation will reduce pressure on family homes and the Art Deco-style design will enhance the area.

They point out the Apostolic Church has relocated to larger premises and the building in Victoria Park Avenue has been unsuccessfully marketed, with no-one interested in using the premises for community purposes.

“Here, we have a local company that wants to invest in developing a property within Bournemouth to provide much-needed housing for students in an appropriate sustainable location and a manner that has been recognised as enhancing the appearance of the area,” their application states.

But many residents are unconvinced. Andrea Gough, of Edgehill Road, has written: “Adding 46 students to the area and not expecting them to have more than three cars is a ridiculous notion.”

And Professor Keith Phalp, of Victoria Park Road, said: “I understand that there is a need for accommodation, particularly given the growth in student numbers. However, this should not be allowed to ruin the lives of existing residents, particularly where the prime motivation seems to be one of private profit.”

Ward councillor Nicola Greene said she would argue the residents’ case at the next meeting of the planning board, if the officer’s recommendation was to grant permission.

She said: “It’s really about the scale and impact of the proposed block. The plans have been revised but the changes don’t address the residents’ concerns.”

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9:35am Sun 8 Dec 13

Keffect says...

Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.
Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating. Keffect

9:41am Sun 8 Dec 13

ol'bag lady says...

When the amount of parking for student accomodation is raised you are told it is not necessary as students are expected to use the bus? This developer obviously knows he would have to provide more parking spaces if converting to permanent residential use - thus lowering the amount of units meaning less £££'s for him perhaps?
When the amount of parking for student accomodation is raised you are told it is not necessary as students are expected to use the bus? This developer obviously knows he would have to provide more parking spaces if converting to permanent residential use - thus lowering the amount of units meaning less £££'s for him perhaps? ol'bag lady

10:15am Sun 8 Dec 13

BmthNewshound says...

Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction.
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If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre.
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The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.
Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction. . If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre. . The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage. BmthNewshound

11:33am Sun 8 Dec 13

bea says...

Instead of building yet more educational accommodation at Fern Barrow they should build Halls of Residence.
Whenm the house next door to us (in Victoria Park Road) was rented out to students they had 4 cars, one each, parking is already a nightmare here in term time because of the local Primary school.
The building proposed for the site is massive overdevelopment, there is a warden's flat included, so presumably that will be allocated one of the parking spaces, leaving 2 for residents and visitors!
The design statement congratulates itself on the appearance of the building and the fact that they believe it fits in well with the street scene, echoing the design of the Moderne Cinema, which is a distance away on the other side of the main road, it doesn't, it is merely ugly.
As to freeing up houses in the area currently let to students for family use, this seems most unlikely as the University expands
Instead of building yet more educational accommodation at Fern Barrow they should build Halls of Residence. Whenm the house next door to us (in Victoria Park Road) was rented out to students they had 4 cars, one each, parking is already a nightmare here in term time because of the local Primary school. The building proposed for the site is massive overdevelopment, there is a warden's flat included, so presumably that will be allocated one of the parking spaces, leaving 2 for residents and visitors! The design statement congratulates itself on the appearance of the building and the fact that they believe it fits in well with the street scene, echoing the design of the Moderne Cinema, which is a distance away on the other side of the main road, it doesn't, it is merely ugly. As to freeing up houses in the area currently let to students for family use, this seems most unlikely as the University expands bea

11:54am Sun 8 Dec 13

roguetrader666 says...

I thought demand for student accommodation was down 15% on last year due to increased student fees.
I thought demand for student accommodation was down 15% on last year due to increased student fees. roguetrader666

11:59am Sun 8 Dec 13

High Treason says...

BU are putting in planning to build on the car park at BU and looking for more land for parking. The Echo is useless at proving important local news.
BU are putting in planning to build on the car park at BU and looking for more land for parking. The Echo is useless at proving important local news. High Treason

12:13pm Sun 8 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council.
Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council. muscliffman

12:27pm Sun 8 Dec 13

royeveleigh says...

I heard Planning permission for a nursery school on this site was refused on two counts a) parking problems b) alteration to the frontage. I have been a regular visitor to BSVI for the last 3 1/2 years. Parking at that end of the street is atrocious. The road constantly floods and the council is EXTREMELY SLOW at dealing with the problem. The garage next to the site often has loads of clients cars parked out in the street as well as their employees and recovery vehicle taking up much needed spaces. The road is already used as a raceway by the students putting the lives of the children at risk. The only reason the church has not been taken up as a much needed community center is it has been deliberately priced out of the market. In2ballroom looked at using the hall for its classes and renting out the rest of the time for community led classes like yoga etc. (definitely not for wedding functions or such like). It is my opinion that someone is getting a sizeable back hander to push this one through planning. It is ridiculous that such a sizeable and inappropriate accommodation be built on this site. I urge everyone to block this move and support the hall being opened for community classes.
I heard Planning permission for a nursery school on this site was refused on two counts a) parking problems b) alteration to the frontage. I have been a regular visitor to BSVI for the last 3 1/2 years. Parking at that end of the street is atrocious. The road constantly floods and the council is EXTREMELY SLOW at dealing with the problem. The garage next to the site often has loads of clients cars parked out in the street as well as their employees and recovery vehicle taking up much needed spaces. The road is already used as a raceway by the students putting the lives of the children at risk. The only reason the church has not been taken up as a much needed community center is it has been deliberately priced out of the market. In2ballroom looked at using the hall for its classes and renting out the rest of the time for community led classes like yoga etc. (definitely not for wedding functions or such like). It is my opinion that someone is getting a sizeable back hander to push this one through planning. It is ridiculous that such a sizeable and inappropriate accommodation be built on this site. I urge everyone to block this move and support the hall being opened for community classes. royeveleigh

12:30pm Sun 8 Dec 13

High Treason says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction.
.
If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre.
.
The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.
It is partly because of student lets that property prices are high. Bournemouth is now considered as student focused first and holiday makers/visitors 2nd. The economy is focused on the night life because it is viable due to the numbers of students. The town is becoming grotty, spot the student lets with dirty windows, bins on pathways, rubbish and untidy gardens and it is all council tax free.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction. . If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre. . The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.[/p][/quote]It is partly because of student lets that property prices are high. Bournemouth is now considered as student focused first and holiday makers/visitors 2nd. The economy is focused on the night life because it is viable due to the numbers of students. The town is becoming grotty, spot the student lets with dirty windows, bins on pathways, rubbish and untidy gardens and it is all council tax free. High Treason

12:42pm Sun 8 Dec 13

BmthNewshound says...

High Treason wrote:
BmthNewshound wrote:
Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction.
.
If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre.
.
The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.
It is partly because of student lets that property prices are high. Bournemouth is now considered as student focused first and holiday makers/visitors 2nd. The economy is focused on the night life because it is viable due to the numbers of students. The town is becoming grotty, spot the student lets with dirty windows, bins on pathways, rubbish and untidy gardens and it is all council tax free.
I take your point. Hence, why I suggest utilising the '000's sq ft of empty office and retail space in the town centre for student accommodation rather than the limited land available for development in established residential areas.
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As we all know the final decision will be based on what is in the interests of property developers and the views if local residents will be largely ignored.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction. . If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre. . The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.[/p][/quote]It is partly because of student lets that property prices are high. Bournemouth is now considered as student focused first and holiday makers/visitors 2nd. The economy is focused on the night life because it is viable due to the numbers of students. The town is becoming grotty, spot the student lets with dirty windows, bins on pathways, rubbish and untidy gardens and it is all council tax free.[/p][/quote]I take your point. Hence, why I suggest utilising the '000's sq ft of empty office and retail space in the town centre for student accommodation rather than the limited land available for development in established residential areas. . As we all know the final decision will be based on what is in the interests of property developers and the views if local residents will be largely ignored. BmthNewshound

12:44pm Sun 8 Dec 13

utciad says...

Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's'
We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!!
We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students.
Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN....

For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here??

Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!!
Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's' We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!! We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students. Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN.... For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here?? Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!! utciad

1:07pm Sun 8 Dec 13

ol'bag lady says...

utciad wrote:
Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's'
We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!!
We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students.
Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN....

For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here??

Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!!
Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.
[quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's' We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!! We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students. Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN.... For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here?? Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!![/p][/quote]Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come. ol'bag lady

1:07pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Angrydolphin says...

Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see
Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see Angrydolphin

1:37pm Sun 8 Dec 13

hooplaa says...

I wondered why everyone was waving at me when i drove past! It was a protest!
I wondered why everyone was waving at me when i drove past! It was a protest! hooplaa

1:53pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Townee says...

For those on this site who are having problems with students there are numbers to contact at night and during the day. Take a look on the Winton Forum for all good advice.
For those on this site who are having problems with students there are numbers to contact at night and during the day. Take a look on the Winton Forum for all good advice. Townee

2:20pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Drew_Peacock says...

Minister: "Since we de - industrialised the country we have a real problem with unemployment amongst teenagers, if we don't do something about it, it will start to hit our chances at the election, what are we going to do about it"?

Civil servant: "Why don't we raise the school leaving age to about 25"

Minister: "We can't do that, the kids and their parents will see right through it, and anyway, we can't afford it"

Civil servant: "I know, lets convert all of the polytechnics to Universities, then pack all of the youngsters off to University, we can spin this as higher education, and not only do we lose the youth unemployment problem, but the students and their families actually pay for it!.
Minister: "Since we de - industrialised the country we have a real problem with unemployment amongst teenagers, if we don't do something about it, it will start to hit our chances at the election, what are we going to do about it"? Civil servant: "Why don't we raise the school leaving age to about 25" Minister: "We can't do that, the kids and their parents will see right through it, and anyway, we can't afford it" Civil servant: "I know, lets convert all of the polytechnics to Universities, then pack all of the youngsters off to University, we can spin this as higher education, and not only do we lose the youth unemployment problem, but the students and their families actually pay for it!. Drew_Peacock

2:56pm Sun 8 Dec 13

typ nowhere says...

I would think that the property was hard to market if they cant even get the name of the road correct.
I would think that the property was hard to market if they cant even get the name of the road correct. typ nowhere

3:59pm Sun 8 Dec 13

utciad says...

ol'bag lady wrote:
utciad wrote:
Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's'
We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!!
We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students.
Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN....

For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here??

Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!!
Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.
YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do.
I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students...
Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form.
No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence'
rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem'
[quote][p][bold]ol'bag lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's' We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!! We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students. Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN.... For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here?? Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!![/p][/quote]Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.[/p][/quote]YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do. I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students... Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form. No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence' rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem' utciad

4:16pm Sun 8 Dec 13

spooki says...

Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others?
What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home?
As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing.
Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others? What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home? As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing. spooki

5:03pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

muscliffman wrote:
Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council.
Perhaps you could elaborate on greedy landlords and developers please.?
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could elaborate on greedy landlords and developers please.? Talkingheadera

5:06pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

spooki wrote:
Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others?
What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home?
As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing.
Teeny badly kept expensive?
There are plenty of good sized, well kept and inexpensive rental properties.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others? What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home? As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing.[/p][/quote]Teeny badly kept expensive? There are plenty of good sized, well kept and inexpensive rental properties. Talkingheadera

5:09pm Sun 8 Dec 13

ol'bag lady says...

utciad wrote:
ol'bag lady wrote:
utciad wrote:
Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's'
We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!!
We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students.
Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN....

For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here??

Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!!
Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.
YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do.
I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students...
Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form.
No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence'
rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem'
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As I said - Don't Blame the Students............
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They do NOT have any morals or responsibility and that is why they act the way they do. Their parents have NOT disciplined them and the university do NOT care................
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....................
....................
...
As I said - Nobody polices them so why would they be any different?
I am forced to live amongst them and know only too well what goes on.
[quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ol'bag lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's' We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!! We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students. Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN.... For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here?? Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!![/p][/quote]Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.[/p][/quote]YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do. I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students... Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form. No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence' rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem'[/p][/quote]____________________ ____________________ ___________________ As I said - Don't Blame the Students............ ................ They do NOT have any morals or responsibility and that is why they act the way they do. Their parents have NOT disciplined them and the university do NOT care................ .................... .................... .................... ... As I said - Nobody polices them so why would they be any different? I am forced to live amongst them and know only too well what goes on. ol'bag lady

5:54pm Sun 8 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council.
Perhaps you could elaborate on greedy landlords and developers please.?
Nice try! We know some (not all) of them are and have a very good idea of who is in their pockets.

Are you suggesting for one moment that Boscombe and Winton have not both deteriorated dreadfully under the grasping greed of these HMO Landlords and Developers - and of course the support of their best 'friends' in the Town Hall?
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Even if there is a difference in the target market this is history repeating, the Boscombe area degeneration led in 1993 now Winton rapidly follows in 2013. The common problem is greedy developers/HMO landlords with far too much influence inside our Council.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could elaborate on greedy landlords and developers please.?[/p][/quote]Nice try! We know some (not all) of them are and have a very good idea of who is in their pockets. Are you suggesting for one moment that Boscombe and Winton have not both deteriorated dreadfully under the grasping greed of these HMO Landlords and Developers - and of course the support of their best 'friends' in the Town Hall? muscliffman

6:04pm Sun 8 Dec 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

Keffect wrote:
Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.
Purpose built student housing will ease the demand on the rest of the market.
[quote][p][bold]Keffect[/bold] wrote: Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.[/p][/quote]Purpose built student housing will ease the demand on the rest of the market. HRH of Boscombe

6:16pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Eddie's dog says...

I like students me........was one once; a bit more interesting to talk to and slightly quicker at walking.
I like students me........was one once; a bit more interesting to talk to and slightly quicker at walking. Eddie's dog

6:47pm Sun 8 Dec 13

ifordcherry says...

Great win for the Cherries.
Great win for the Cherries. ifordcherry

6:52pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Eddie's dog says...

ifordcherry wrote:
Great win for the Cherries.
Birmingham at home we should win.
[quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: Great win for the Cherries.[/p][/quote]Birmingham at home we should win. Eddie's dog

6:59pm Sun 8 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
spooki wrote:
Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others?
What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home?
As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing.
Teeny badly kept expensive?
There are plenty of good sized, well kept and inexpensive rental properties.
So says a landlord !.sticking by his mates.
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: Are there actually working or deserving residents in Bournmeouth and it's surrounding areas? Or are they all tourists and students? Only we never seem to get what we actually need! The summer is all about tourism and the rest is all students - foreign or otherwise. Why can't there be more 'normal' low cost housing rather than keep making things for others? What about the people who really live here, perhaps in teeny, badly kept, little but expensive rented places? Or those who work hard and have a car but can't park it outside their home? As long as the tourist and student are happy, that's the main thing.[/p][/quote]Teeny badly kept expensive? There are plenty of good sized, well kept and inexpensive rental properties.[/p][/quote]So says a landlord !.sticking by his mates. pete woodley

8:07pm Sun 8 Dec 13

utciad says...

ol'bag lady wrote:
utciad wrote:
ol'bag lady wrote:
utciad wrote:
Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's'
We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!!
We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students.
Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN....

For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here??

Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!!
Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.
YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do.
I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students...
Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form.
No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence'
rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem'
____________________

____________________

___________________
As I said - Don't Blame the Students............

................
They do NOT have any morals or responsibility and that is why they act the way they do. Their parents have NOT disciplined them and the university do NOT care................

....................

....................

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...
As I said - Nobody polices them so why would they be any different?
I am forced to live amongst them and know only too well what goes on.
Sadly, so am I!! Which is why I an so voiciferous in allowing any more of them to infect what's left of our once nice town!!
I know from several bad experiences just what these animals are like....
we have had 3 years of it, over half the houses in our road are infected with the louses!!

Which is why I have protested time and time again about allowing these HMO's to proliiferate at the expense of local people.
My daughter and her husband cannot afford to buy a house as they cannot raise a big enough mortgage, yet they pay MORE in rent than a mortgage would cost.
Local councillors are of NO help at all, just in to line their own pockets.
All of them SAY they intend to do more about this area becoming a student ghetto, but sadly it's all talk, talk, talk, and no real action, and sadly, to many of the councillors (who are supposed to be representing the people who voted them in) are actually in the developers pockets!!
[quote][p][bold]ol'bag lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ol'bag lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: Winton, Charminster and Moordown are fast becoming 'student ghetto's' We are sick and tired of these ignorant, arogant, 'couldn't give a toss' students, who block peoples driveways with their cars, park anywhere, overfill dusbins and leave binbags on pavements, cause no end of aggravation with their persistant late night 'revels' arriving/departing all night long at weekends. They have absolutely NO respect for others, we have had them playing football in the road at 4AM!!! We need affordable housing for the people who actually LIVE in Bournemouth, WORK in Bournemouth, and contribute something POSITIVE to the town rather than 'know it all' students. Sick and tired of being abused by them when you ask them to move cars/ turn the noise down/stop playing football in the streets/slam car doors and shout their mouths off at 1-2-3AM when they roll home drunk AGAIN.... For just ONCE, can the council do something for the RESIDENTS here?? Thought not!!! AS USUAL!!![/p][/quote]Dont' blame the students - nobody polices them so they do what they like and get away with it! If I was disrespectful to others and parked on the pavement all night, threw my rubbish everywhere and have somebody to tidy up after me - all for free - I would too. Blame who takes our council tax and gives it to these non-contributors. The students get this plus a lot more and with great expectations of much more to come.[/p][/quote]YES I DO blame the students, because if they had any MORALS or sense of responsibilty they would not act the way they do. I also blame the parents for not disciplining their children, and the University, who do not care how their students behave when they are off site. All the uni is concerned about is cramming as many students as possible into the conurbation, to make as much money in fees as they can, and to hell with those whose lives are made a misery by their students... Try complaining to the uni about the bad attitude of THEIR students, and they are not interested in any way shape or form. No wonder they want them farmed out into the area, because they become responsible for them if they are on site in 'halls of residence' rather than letting them be 'someone else's problem'[/p][/quote]____________________ ____________________ ___________________ As I said - Don't Blame the Students............ ................ They do NOT have any morals or responsibility and that is why they act the way they do. Their parents have NOT disciplined them and the university do NOT care................ .................... .................... .................... ... As I said - Nobody polices them so why would they be any different? I am forced to live amongst them and know only too well what goes on.[/p][/quote]Sadly, so am I!! Which is why I an so voiciferous in allowing any more of them to infect what's left of our once nice town!! I know from several bad experiences just what these animals are like.... we have had 3 years of it, over half the houses in our road are infected with the louses!! Which is why I have protested time and time again about allowing these HMO's to proliiferate at the expense of local people. My daughter and her husband cannot afford to buy a house as they cannot raise a big enough mortgage, yet they pay MORE in rent than a mortgage would cost. Local councillors are of NO help at all, just in to line their own pockets. All of them SAY they intend to do more about this area becoming a student ghetto, but sadly it's all talk, talk, talk, and no real action, and sadly, to many of the councillors (who are supposed to be representing the people who voted them in) are actually in the developers pockets!! utciad

8:08pm Sun 8 Dec 13

utciad says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Keffect wrote:
Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.
Purpose built student housing will ease the demand on the rest of the market.
And if you REALLY believe that, then you need a visit to St Annes....
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keffect[/bold] wrote: Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.[/p][/quote]Purpose built student housing will ease the demand on the rest of the market.[/p][/quote]And if you REALLY believe that, then you need a visit to St Annes.... utciad

9:09pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Holdenhurst says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction.
.
If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre.
.
The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.
The former DSS offices on Christchurch Road are being converted including some student accomodation: -

http://planning.bour
nemouth.gov.uk/Realt
imeRegister/plandisp
.aspx?recno=82764
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Over the past few years we've seen an explosion in student accommodation being built in the town including huge new blocks being built opposite Bournemouth station and several new large blocks being built which can be seen from the Spur road just before the Richmond Hill junction. . If, and thats a big if, Bournemouth actually needs more student accommodation rather than build it in residential areas causing friction with local residents why not convert the huge amount of empty office and retail space in the town centre. . The site occupied by the former Apostolic Church would be far better used to build affordable housing for the many hard working families who struggle to afford live in a town where property prices and rents are high but where many have to try and survive on the minimum wage.[/p][/quote]The former DSS offices on Christchurch Road are being converted including some student accomodation: - http://planning.bour nemouth.gov.uk/Realt imeRegister/plandisp .aspx?recno=82764 Holdenhurst

11:54pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Angrydolphin says...

utciad wrote:
Angrydolphin wrote:
Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see
Obviously another one of the 'student ghetto' & 'I'm alright mate sod you' brigade.
Obviously another unwashed student with no regard for others, much like today's 'I can do as I like' culture...
Is it any wonder this country is going down the drain, and we are the laughing stock of Europe??

Is this is what some people fought in 2 world wars for??

Angry dolphin?? Best stay in the sinkhole you are making Poole then....
I would love it if somebody purchased all of your neighbours properties and then builds a lot of student accomidation or airport runway or maybe a jail. Now that would realy give me something to giggle about!
[quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angrydolphin[/bold] wrote: Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see[/p][/quote]Obviously another one of the 'student ghetto' & 'I'm alright mate sod you' brigade. Obviously another unwashed student with no regard for others, much like today's 'I can do as I like' culture... Is it any wonder this country is going down the drain, and we are the laughing stock of Europe?? Is this is what some people fought in 2 world wars for?? Angry dolphin?? Best stay in the sinkhole you are making Poole then....[/p][/quote]I would love it if somebody purchased all of your neighbours properties and then builds a lot of student accomidation or airport runway or maybe a jail. Now that would realy give me something to giggle about! Angrydolphin

9:42am Mon 9 Dec 13

rozmister says...

Keffect wrote:
Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.
I'm 24 and between my housemate and I we have a combined income of just over £2k a year and didn't need a guarantor. It took us a while to find something in our price range and lots of viewings but a bit of determination pays off. We rent through Meridian who are really good except for the expensive fees.
[quote][p][bold]Keffect[/bold] wrote: Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.[/p][/quote]I'm 24 and between my housemate and I we have a combined income of just over £2k a year and didn't need a guarantor. It took us a while to find something in our price range and lots of viewings but a bit of determination pays off. We rent through Meridian who are really good except for the expensive fees. rozmister

10:30am Mon 9 Dec 13

TheDistrict says...

In the above story it was claimed that no one had come forward to offer of purchase for the church to remain as part of the community. I can remember far back as 10 years ago, right up to last year, that the Bournemouth Sea Cadets were searching for new premises, as their unit was being demolished to make way for affordable housing. The building was very old and in need of much maintenance. However, nothing came to light regarding the Church Hall in VPA. Why, because I for one did not see any advertising towards the purchase of such. There is a massive shortage of community buildings that can or could be used for youth projects, who at least would be under authority to ensure that quietness was maintained along with cleanliness and discipline. Unlike many students in our conurbations. I urge the planners to stop this going through, and good luck to Nicola Greene in her support for the same.
In the above story it was claimed that no one had come forward to offer of purchase for the church to remain as part of the community. I can remember far back as 10 years ago, right up to last year, that the Bournemouth Sea Cadets were searching for new premises, as their unit was being demolished to make way for affordable housing. The building was very old and in need of much maintenance. However, nothing came to light regarding the Church Hall in VPA. Why, because I for one did not see any advertising towards the purchase of such. There is a massive shortage of community buildings that can or could be used for youth projects, who at least would be under authority to ensure that quietness was maintained along with cleanliness and discipline. Unlike many students in our conurbations. I urge the planners to stop this going through, and good luck to Nicola Greene in her support for the same. TheDistrict

11:54am Mon 9 Dec 13

rozmister says...

rozmister wrote:
Keffect wrote: Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.
I'm 24 and between my housemate and I we have a combined income of just over £2k a year and didn't need a guarantor. It took us a while to find something in our price range and lots of viewings but a bit of determination pays off. We rent through Meridian who are really good except for the expensive fees.
£2k a month, £2k a year wouldn't get us very far!
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keffect[/bold] wrote: Great - More student housing proposed. My family & I are about to loose our home just after xmas, I work, my wife works but is currently on maternity leave. We cannot find anything within our price range that will suit our families needs. (We've been in our current home for 11 years) and to satisfy rip off letting agents I need to be earning £3000 a month plus or have a guarantor which is bloody hard to find when your in your mid 50's. Bournemouth Uni has been allowed to buy up to much housing stock & the knock effect for local people renting privately has been devastating.[/p][/quote]I'm 24 and between my housemate and I we have a combined income of just over £2k a year and didn't need a guarantor. It took us a while to find something in our price range and lots of viewings but a bit of determination pays off. We rent through Meridian who are really good except for the expensive fees.[/p][/quote]£2k a month, £2k a year wouldn't get us very far! rozmister

5:26pm Mon 9 Dec 13

utciad says...

Angrydolphin wrote:
utciad wrote:
Angrydolphin wrote:
Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see
Obviously another one of the 'student ghetto' & 'I'm alright mate sod you' brigade.
Obviously another unwashed student with no regard for others, much like today's 'I can do as I like' culture...
Is it any wonder this country is going down the drain, and we are the laughing stock of Europe??

Is this is what some people fought in 2 world wars for??

Angry dolphin?? Best stay in the sinkhole you are making Poole then....
I would love it if somebody purchased all of your neighbours properties and then builds a lot of student accomidation or airport runway or maybe a jail. Now that would realy give me something to giggle about!
Stupid person..Go and find your nurse and tell her your medication is due...TROLL
[quote][p][bold]Angrydolphin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]utciad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angrydolphin[/bold] wrote: Lets all cry, no one cares knock down the church and build 1000 unit of student accomidation. Thats what i would love to see[/p][/quote]Obviously another one of the 'student ghetto' & 'I'm alright mate sod you' brigade. Obviously another unwashed student with no regard for others, much like today's 'I can do as I like' culture... Is it any wonder this country is going down the drain, and we are the laughing stock of Europe?? Is this is what some people fought in 2 world wars for?? Angry dolphin?? Best stay in the sinkhole you are making Poole then....[/p][/quote]I would love it if somebody purchased all of your neighbours properties and then builds a lot of student accomidation or airport runway or maybe a jail. Now that would realy give me something to giggle about![/p][/quote]Stupid person..Go and find your nurse and tell her your medication is due...TROLL utciad

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