Decision on Morrisons supermarket for Beagle site in Christchurch is deferred until next year

Bournemouth Echo: DEVELOPMENT SITE: The Beagle Technology premises DEVELOPMENT SITE: The Beagle Technology premises

A DECISION on proposals for another major supermarket in Christchurch has been postponed by the council.

Plans for Morrisons on the site of Beagle Technology were due to go before Christchurch council’s planning committee on Thursday.

But just two days before the meeting, the item was pulled and deferred until a meeting in the New Year – believed to be in January.

The plans will be heard at the same meeting as revised proposals for a supermarket at Meteor Retail Park in Somerford.

Morrisons’ scheme for a supermarket at Beagle has been rejected twice by the planning committee. The current application has been revised with changes including reducing the height of the building and its location on the site.

The revised scheme for the food store at Meteor Retail Park is to increase the size of the store by removing two non-food outlets.

Chris Newsome, development director at Simons Developments for Morrisons, said: “We are clearly disappointed that the Morrisons application will not be heard by the planning committee on December 5, but we fully understand that the proper process has to be followed.

“However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch and could bring over £7.5 million of tangible benefits to the town in the form of trade returned to the High Street, a town centre improvement fund and implementing highway improvements to the A35.”

Giles Moir, development management manager at Christchurch Borough Council, said: “A decision on the planning application for a supermarket on the Beagle site has been deferred until early in the New Year. This is because the planning control committee would need to look at the potential impact on the town centre from this application, together with others being considered by the council at the same time.”

Work could start soon TWO supermarkets have been given outline permission by Christchurch Borough Council.

One at Bailey Drive, off Barrack Road – recently revealed as Asda – and another at Meteor Retail Park in Somerford were approved at committee last year.

The Morrisons application is a detailed scheme, meaning if approved, work could start almost immediately.

It has been rejected twice by Christchurch council previously. It is to be discussed early next year.

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8:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

Mr Quantum says...

Just say NO!
Just say NO! Mr Quantum

8:36am Wed 4 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Mr Quantum wrote:
Just say NO!
Just say yes.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Quantum[/bold] wrote: Just say NO![/p][/quote]Just say yes. Hessenford

8:58am Wed 4 Dec 13

bsjc1234 says...

So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin.
So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin. bsjc1234

9:19am Wed 4 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

bsjc1234 wrote:
So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin.
And just what is there in Christchurch high street that would attract anyone to shop there, a dilapidated precinct with an expensive supermarket, 99p store plus numerous coffee shops, not really somewhere to do a weeks shopping, you even have to pay to park when picking something up from Argos, no wonder people go to Castlepoint, more supermarkets more competition, that's what we need plus much needed jobs in the area.
[quote][p][bold]bsjc1234[/bold] wrote: So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin.[/p][/quote]And just what is there in Christchurch high street that would attract anyone to shop there, a dilapidated precinct with an expensive supermarket, 99p store plus numerous coffee shops, not really somewhere to do a weeks shopping, you even have to pay to park when picking something up from Argos, no wonder people go to Castlepoint, more supermarkets more competition, that's what we need plus much needed jobs in the area. Hessenford

9:29am Wed 4 Dec 13

stormplum says...

So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery.
So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery. stormplum

10:16am Wed 4 Dec 13

uberbloke says...

Live in Purewell; really looking forward to a Morrisons.
Live in Purewell; really looking forward to a Morrisons. uberbloke

10:19am Wed 4 Dec 13

Keffect says...

All this noise about Morrisons, Which supermarket is going in at the Meteor Site? I live in Purewell & would much sooner see Morrisons than one up on the old PC World site. Somerford Rd is a nightmare now from Inexcess past Macdonalds. Let Morrisons have it & build some much needed affordable homes On the PC world site & not on the greenbelt & in place of Roeshot Allotments.
All this noise about Morrisons, Which supermarket is going in at the Meteor Site? I live in Purewell & would much sooner see Morrisons than one up on the old PC World site. Somerford Rd is a nightmare now from Inexcess past Macdonalds. Let Morrisons have it & build some much needed affordable homes On the PC world site & not on the greenbelt & in place of Roeshot Allotments. Keffect

10:26am Wed 4 Dec 13

Niki1 says...

One of the councils previous arguments against Morrison's was that the elderly could not walk from Christchurch to Purewell to shop there. As the building work has started on the retirement flats at Purewell crossroads are the council saying that the people who move in there are going to have to walk into Christchurch to do their shopping!!!!!!!! Come on Christchurch council stop dragging your feet and put this through and allow Beagle to move to bigger premises hence creating more jobs.
One of the councils previous arguments against Morrison's was that the elderly could not walk from Christchurch to Purewell to shop there. As the building work has started on the retirement flats at Purewell crossroads are the council saying that the people who move in there are going to have to walk into Christchurch to do their shopping!!!!!!!! Come on Christchurch council stop dragging your feet and put this through and allow Beagle to move to bigger premises hence creating more jobs. Niki1

11:15am Wed 4 Dec 13

wonderway says...

They are just a normal tory council no back bone

like tory government over hs2
france built one of their high speed lines in 3 YEARS
OURS GOING TO TAKE 20 YEARS TO BUILD HALF OF IT 30 YEARS TO COMPLETE

SO GET OFF YOUR **** AND GET ON WITH IT
They are just a normal tory council no back bone like tory government over hs2 france built one of their high speed lines in 3 YEARS OURS GOING TO TAKE 20 YEARS TO BUILD HALF OF IT 30 YEARS TO COMPLETE SO GET OFF YOUR **** AND GET ON WITH IT wonderway

11:19am Wed 4 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Looking at the amount of thumbs up on here today it seems obvious that the council do not represent the opinion that we need a Morrisons.
Looking at the amount of thumbs up on here today it seems obvious that the council do not represent the opinion that we need a Morrisons. Hessenford

11:21am Wed 4 Dec 13

twynham says...

When will people who like the Morrisons brand realise that those of us who object to the plans could not give a fig which supermarket it is.
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It's the extra 10,000 car journeys per day which any supermarket must attract, most of whom will be adding to the already congested Purewell & Bridge St. conservation areas.
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Nothing to do with snobbery stormplum, it's the environment.
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Affordable housing is what this borough needs, not 8 supermarkets.
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Unfortunately supermarket developers have deeper pockets, in this case to bail out a failing company.
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And before anyone yet again queries the 10k figure it comes from the developers traffic projection on the Council website, all 177 pages of it!
When will people who like the Morrisons brand realise that those of us who object to the plans could not give a fig which supermarket it is. . It's the extra 10,000 car journeys per day which any supermarket must attract, most of whom will be adding to the already congested Purewell & Bridge St. conservation areas. . Nothing to do with snobbery stormplum, it's the environment. . Affordable housing is what this borough needs, not 8 supermarkets. . Unfortunately supermarket developers have deeper pockets, in this case to bail out a failing company. . And before anyone yet again queries the 10k figure it comes from the developers traffic projection on the Council website, all 177 pages of it! twynham

2:27pm Wed 4 Dec 13

dribydal says...

How come Morrisons are getting such a hard time from planners when Tesco, it seems, can open a shop just about where they **** well want?

We could do with a Morrisons nearer to Bournemuth, they have loads of good offers which we miss out on and could do with a bit more competition from different supermarkets.
How come Morrisons are getting such a hard time from planners when Tesco, it seems, can open a shop just about where they **** well want? We could do with a Morrisons nearer to Bournemuth, they have loads of good offers which we miss out on and could do with a bit more competition from different supermarkets. dribydal

4:09pm Wed 4 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

stormplum wrote:
So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery.
Sainsbury's "top end".

Who knew.

I feel decidely lardy di dar as I shop there and Waitrose.

(the truth is all can be good value if you know how to shop)
[quote][p][bold]stormplum[/bold] wrote: So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery.[/p][/quote]Sainsbury's "top end". Who knew. I feel decidely lardy di dar as I shop there and Waitrose. (the truth is all can be good value if you know how to shop) scrumpyjack

5:47pm Wed 4 Dec 13

stormplum says...

twynham wrote:
When will people who like the Morrisons brand realise that those of us who object to the plans could not give a fig which supermarket it is.
.
It's the extra 10,000 car journeys per day which any supermarket must attract, most of whom will be adding to the already congested Purewell & Bridge St. conservation areas.
.
Nothing to do with snobbery stormplum, it's the environment.
.
Affordable housing is what this borough needs, not 8 supermarkets.
.
Unfortunately supermarket developers have deeper pockets, in this case to bail out a failing company.
.
And before anyone yet again queries the 10k figure it comes from the developers traffic projection on the Council website, all 177 pages of it!
It's not extra car journeys is it? People don't go to more supermarkets because there is another one to choose from! In fact people who live closer will need their cars less than they did when they had to travel to castlepoint. Then there's the extra jobs as where are all these people in this affordable housing going to work?
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: When will people who like the Morrisons brand realise that those of us who object to the plans could not give a fig which supermarket it is. . It's the extra 10,000 car journeys per day which any supermarket must attract, most of whom will be adding to the already congested Purewell & Bridge St. conservation areas. . Nothing to do with snobbery stormplum, it's the environment. . Affordable housing is what this borough needs, not 8 supermarkets. . Unfortunately supermarket developers have deeper pockets, in this case to bail out a failing company. . And before anyone yet again queries the 10k figure it comes from the developers traffic projection on the Council website, all 177 pages of it![/p][/quote]It's not extra car journeys is it? People don't go to more supermarkets because there is another one to choose from! In fact people who live closer will need their cars less than they did when they had to travel to castlepoint. Then there's the extra jobs as where are all these people in this affordable housing going to work? stormplum

5:50pm Wed 4 Dec 13

stormplum says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
stormplum wrote:
So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery.
Sainsbury's "top end".

Who knew.

I feel decidely lardy di dar as I shop there and Waitrose.

(the truth is all can be good value if you know how to shop)
Indeed it can, I worked in Sainsburys for many years but it's an IF you know how to shop. Truth is price wise Sainsbury's, M&S and Waitrose are at the higher price end for alot of poorer and elderly people, why don't they get to choose?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stormplum[/bold] wrote: So, in Christchurch there are two big supermarkets- Sainsburys and Waitrose - both at the top end of price. Surely people should have a choice? The town centre fills a different need and won't suffer anymore than it already does due to current supermarket offerings. The less well off and elderly (of which there are many in Christchurch) could benefit from cheaper options, kids need to eat! Those who oppose are doing so purely out of snobbery.[/p][/quote]Sainsbury's "top end". Who knew. I feel decidely lardy di dar as I shop there and Waitrose. (the truth is all can be good value if you know how to shop)[/p][/quote]Indeed it can, I worked in Sainsburys for many years but it's an IF you know how to shop. Truth is price wise Sainsbury's, M&S and Waitrose are at the higher price end for alot of poorer and elderly people, why don't they get to choose? stormplum

8:32pm Wed 4 Dec 13

twynham says...

stormplum
I don't do supermarkets but my wife has just confirmed there is no Morrisons at Castlepoint, it's Asda so the diversion of traffic from Castlepoint will be to Bailey Bridge, not Bridge Street or Purewell.
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The question we should be asking, and that includes you Ms Clark;-) is who asked for the postponement of planning until next month, developers or Council?
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Must admit, have seen a lot of Asda advertising locally¿¿¿
stormplum I don't do supermarkets but my wife has just confirmed there is no Morrisons at Castlepoint, it's Asda so the diversion of traffic from Castlepoint will be to Bailey Bridge, not Bridge Street or Purewell. . The question we should be asking, and that includes you Ms Clark;-) is who asked for the postponement of planning until next month, developers or Council? . Must admit, have seen a lot of Asda advertising locally¿¿¿ twynham

9:05pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Rich© says...

surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!!
So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ?
Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.
surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!! So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ? Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead. Rich©

9:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

twynham says...

Rich© wrote:
surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!!
So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ?
Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.
Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out..
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I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous.
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As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment.
[quote][p][bold]Rich©[/bold] wrote: surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!! So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ? Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.[/p][/quote]Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.. . I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous. . As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment. twynham

10:35pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Local Christchurch Resident says...

Funny, why would you consider more housing, if the council are so set on preventing a long standing business develop and grow!?

No wonder they are set on allowing coffee shops, charity stores and 99p shops, lets face it, they can only be considering the old or poor as they are clearly against development that can provide stability and employment opportunities!

I heard the Beagle were looking at providing apprenticeships, but on the basis that most of the councillors seem to be retired, out of touch and/or only worried about the old, it comes as no surprise that they would not look to support Beagle!

More delay tactics from CBC, get off the fence and allow this 50+ year old company to start providing for the community!! .... After all, it's what you get paid to support, even if its only in the expenses you claim to supposedly represent us!!

Totally frustrated by the current committee, it's time for change! .... either stand aside or support this project as your new retirement flats will need Morrisons so they can walk to the store ....,, because apparently these people won't be able to walk any further!
Funny, why would you consider more housing, if the council are so set on preventing a long standing business develop and grow!? No wonder they are set on allowing coffee shops, charity stores and 99p shops, lets face it, they can only be considering the old or poor as they are clearly against development that can provide stability and employment opportunities! I heard the Beagle were looking at providing apprenticeships, but on the basis that most of the councillors seem to be retired, out of touch and/or only worried about the old, it comes as no surprise that they would not look to support Beagle! More delay tactics from CBC, get off the fence and allow this 50+ year old company to start providing for the community!! .... After all, it's what you get paid to support, even if its only in the expenses you claim to supposedly represent us!! Totally frustrated by the current committee, it's time for change! .... either stand aside or support this project as your new retirement flats will need Morrisons so they can walk to the store ....,, because apparently these people won't be able to walk any further! Local Christchurch Resident

11:43pm Wed 4 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

twynham wrote:
Rich© wrote: surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!! So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ? Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.
Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.. . I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous. . As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment.
"Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.."

Despite what they promise because they love us.............
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich©[/bold] wrote: surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!! So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ? Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.[/p][/quote]Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.. . I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous. . As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment.[/p][/quote]"Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.." Despite what they promise because they love us............. scrumpyjack

2:15am Thu 5 Dec 13

Crank says...

Why does no one mention the Coop store in Saxon Square as being a cheap supermarket? It has a broad range of about everything, priced very competitively. I often go there in preference to Waitrose.
The Beagle plans have been shown to be incorrect in perspective, having a greater impact than actually depicted visually,and traffic considerations are quite adverse and serious. Do people appreciate it will necessitate massive changes to Stony Lane roundabout, including three sets of traffic lights, and a road right across the middle, currently graced by mature trees, and, this year, a splendid array of wild flowers. The cost of this will not be met by Morrisons - only a contribution.
Why does no one mention the Coop store in Saxon Square as being a cheap supermarket? It has a broad range of about everything, priced very competitively. I often go there in preference to Waitrose. The Beagle plans have been shown to be incorrect in perspective, having a greater impact than actually depicted visually,and traffic considerations are quite adverse and serious. Do people appreciate it will necessitate massive changes to Stony Lane roundabout, including three sets of traffic lights, and a road right across the middle, currently graced by mature trees, and, this year, a splendid array of wild flowers. The cost of this will not be met by Morrisons - only a contribution. Crank

6:01am Thu 5 Dec 13

ShuttleX says...

bsjc1234 wrote:
So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin.
This "vast majority" of yours must be very quiet because everybody I have spoken to seems to be in favour of more choice. The town centre offers nothing, with the exception of a very expensive Waitrose and M&S. If you don't like the market, why bother going down there then? Of all the markets in the Dorset area, Christchurch is one of the best for numbers, so I would say you are wrong on that too.
[quote][p][bold]bsjc1234[/bold] wrote: So Chris Newsom says "However, we are confident that Morrisons has the clear support of the vast majority of the residents of Christchurch", not sure where he has dreamt that one up from, a vast majority do not want this supermarket, its bad enough having a tacky rubbish market in the town driving visitors away let alone another supermarket that will not even be in the town centre, another nail in the coffin.[/p][/quote]This "vast majority" of yours must be very quiet because everybody I have spoken to seems to be in favour of more choice. The town centre offers nothing, with the exception of a very expensive Waitrose and M&S. If you don't like the market, why bother going down there then? Of all the markets in the Dorset area, Christchurch is one of the best for numbers, so I would say you are wrong on that too. ShuttleX

10:53pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Beaglesupporter says...

twynham wrote:
Rich© wrote:
surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!!
So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ?
Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.
Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out..
.
I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous.
.
As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment.
I actually have to be positive as you seem to considering the issue less biased.

Why don't you make contact with my MD who I'm sure would show you around and explain why Beagle must move to survive

And the comment on apprenticeships is so important, Beagle are offering real chances for our children it's rare!
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich©[/bold] wrote: surely it doesn't take this long to pick straws !!!! So what happens if Morrisons gets passed, do ASDA still go ahead with their plans ? Also why is Christchurch open season at the moment for all these supermarket developments, I don't know of anywhere else where this amount of proposed planning is going ahead.[/p][/quote]Asda is committed and I would doubt pull out.. . I completely agree, 8 supermarkets for a population of less than 50k when any of this size appear to need a footfall of around 5k per day is ludicrous. . As I am directly effected by the Morrisons development I have been following various developers on social media, I'm afraid we are not alone, they are all vying for sites all over the country, irrespective of the effect it has on the local environment.[/p][/quote]I actually have to be positive as you seem to considering the issue less biased. Why don't you make contact with my MD who I'm sure would show you around and explain why Beagle must move to survive And the comment on apprenticeships is so important, Beagle are offering real chances for our children it's rare! Beaglesupporter

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