UPDATE: Thousands of motorists stuck in nine miles of queues after roadworks chaos on A338 Spur Road

Bournemouth Echo: Delays on A338 due to roadworks closing lane Delays on A338 due to roadworks closing lane

DORSET highways bosses have been branded “out of touch” for closing a lane of the A338 during today's rush hour.

Furious motorists contacted the council to complain after being stuck in up to nine miles of queuing traffic while the A338 safety barrier was checked.

One lane of the northbound carriageway from Blackwater Junction to Ashley Heath was closed from 8pm on Monday while 5.5 miles of cones were put out.

The restrictions then caused chaos yesterday morning, with lengthy delays back to St Paul’s roundabout.

There were also knock-on effects in many other parts of Bournemouth, including Castle Lane, Northbourne and Queens Park.

Bournemouth West MP Conor Burns took to Twitter to slam Dorset County Council’s decision to start the work on a weekday. He said: “Absolutely astonished to read of works causing delays on A338 this morning.

“Why on earth couldn’t it be done at weekend or overnight?

“Causing massive delays to people trying to get to work to pay taxes to fund those who make such out of touch decisions.”

JP Morgan employee Gayle Moore complained after it took her an hour to complete a 10-minute journey.

She said: “All other routes that I could have taken were equally snarled up, so there was no alternative to sitting in the traffic.

“I am sure there was some misplaced decision that they were saving taxpayers’ money by not doing this at night, over two days out of rush hour, using a rolling road block or doing this at weekends or school holidays.”

Contractors worked southbound against the flow of traffic, checking the safety barrier and removing the cones as they went. The lane was fully open by 4pm yesterday afternoon.

The closure was publicised via road signs, local media, and the Travel Dorset website and Twitter feed.

Council chief engineer John Burridge apologised for the disruption, but said the road safety works were essential and had to be carried out in daylight for better visibility.

“When planning this sort of work we look at traffic numbers and Tuesdays have less traffic than on other days in the week, but everyday has a lot of traffic flowing along the A338,” he said.

Mr Burridge said the work could not be carried out outside peak times as it would take longer, and the cones would have to remain in place resulting in greater disruption.

Other Spur Road controversies

THE Spur Road has been beset by traffic and roadworks-related controversies in recent years.

Earlier this year the road was part closed overnight for three days while the Welcome to Bournemouth sign was hoisted onto the Holdenhurst footbridge.

Nightmare traffic jams on July 8, exacerbated by minor crashes, left holidaymakers stuck in queues for hours.

In September 2010, a major makeover project was due to start, but although £1 million had already been spent on preparatory work, including clearing verges and removing rare sand lizards, the proposal fell afoul of government budget cuts and was shelved.

And in 2009, the route was twice criticised by Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson for its heavy traffic.

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8:12am Tue 3 Dec 13

bosco1 says...

Yes it may upset drivers being delayed but the safety of all road users is important, just allow extra travel time.
Yes it may upset drivers being delayed but the safety of all road users is important, just allow extra travel time. bosco1

8:16am Tue 3 Dec 13

Ralph Horris says...

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8:19am Tue 3 Dec 13

Ralph Horris says...

Sorry, what I meant to say was I cannot get enough traffic jam news. I shall tweet it to my follower on Twitter.
Sorry, what I meant to say was I cannot get enough traffic jam news. I shall tweet it to my follower on Twitter. Ralph Horris

8:22am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

I'm sorry bit WHY start at 8am!!!! Start at 9 +do.it over 2day s if need be!!!!!
I'm sorry bit WHY start at 8am!!!! Start at 9 +do.it over 2day s if need be!!!!! GAM

8:23am Tue 3 Dec 13

ianbthomson says...

I still cannot understand why they do not put the cones out after the rush hour given that there was NOBODY there at 8am!!
I still cannot understand why they do not put the cones out after the rush hour given that there was NOBODY there at 8am!! ianbthomson

8:42am Tue 3 Dec 13

Eddie's dog says...

All cones used by highways contractors should be individually licensed and paid for hourly/daily when in use. Hopefully, this will deter their use as road decorations.
All cones used by highways contractors should be individually licensed and paid for hourly/daily when in use. Hopefully, this will deter their use as road decorations. Eddie's dog

8:46am Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!!

Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!!

Thousands late for work, flights!!!

Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!!

ONLY IN DORSET !!!!
8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!! Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!! Thousands late for work, flights!!! Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!! ONLY IN DORSET !!!! The irate commuter

8:46am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

Just called Dorset county council complaints line. They said hardly anyone has called! Everyone get on the phone + complain to make sure this doesn't happen again!
Just called Dorset county council complaints line. They said hardly anyone has called! Everyone get on the phone + complain to make sure this doesn't happen again! GAM

8:47am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

Call 01305221061 to complain
Call 01305221061 to complain GAM

8:49am Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

Could you see Southampton or Portsmouth allowing roadworks at rush hour bringing their cities to standstill ??

What loons appove these works?

ONLY IN DORSET !!
Could you see Southampton or Portsmouth allowing roadworks at rush hour bringing their cities to standstill ?? What loons appove these works? ONLY IN DORSET !! The irate commuter

8:51am Tue 3 Dec 13

TinyLegacy says...

Calm down, it's only the main road in/out of Bournemouth. Well done council, well done.
Calm down, it's only the main road in/out of Bournemouth. Well done council, well done. TinyLegacy

8:54am Tue 3 Dec 13

In Absentia says...

This inspection could have been scheduled for the next school holidays when rush hour traffic will drop by about 50%.
This inspection could have been scheduled for the next school holidays when rush hour traffic will drop by about 50%. In Absentia

8:58am Tue 3 Dec 13

boyerboy says...

Numpties ! why not start at day break ??????
OR
Why cannot this be done at night( with , of course suitable protection .
Numpties ! why not start at day break ?????? OR Why cannot this be done at night( with , of course suitable protection . boyerboy

8:59am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

GAM wrote:
I'm sorry bit WHY start at 8am!!!! Start at 9 +do.it over 2day s if need be!!!!!
Better still do it at night,
[quote][p][bold]GAM[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry bit WHY start at 8am!!!! Start at 9 +do.it over 2day s if need be!!!!![/p][/quote]Better still do it at night, Hessenford

8:59am Tue 3 Dec 13

Huey says...

What about when there was similar prolonged gridlock a few years ago when the verges were cut back and lizard barriers installed at a cost of £millions for resurfacing work that was never done.
Cretins wasting our money.
What about when there was similar prolonged gridlock a few years ago when the verges were cut back and lizard barriers installed at a cost of £millions for resurfacing work that was never done. Cretins wasting our money. Huey

9:02am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Is this the councils way of forcing speed reductions in the future, stick cones on all major roads with no workmen in sight.
Is this the councils way of forcing speed reductions in the future, stick cones on all major roads with no workmen in sight. Hessenford

9:03am Tue 3 Dec 13

ianbthomson says...

I have just rang the 01305221061 number to politely complain. I doubt it will do much good but it definitely made me feel better!!
I have just rang the 01305221061 number to politely complain. I doubt it will do much good but it definitely made me feel better!! ianbthomson

9:04am Tue 3 Dec 13

Derf says...

So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained.

It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it! Derf

9:08am Tue 3 Dec 13

ianbthomson says...

Derf wrote:
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained.

It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
Everyone on hear realises that work needs to be done but why can't it be scheduled on the MAJOR road out of town during school holidays when the traffic is a lot lighter OR the cones put out after 8.30am
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it![/p][/quote]Everyone on hear realises that work needs to be done but why can't it be scheduled on the MAJOR road out of town during school holidays when the traffic is a lot lighter OR the cones put out after 8.30am ianbthomson

9:12am Tue 3 Dec 13

Derf says...

So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause?
So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause? Derf

9:13am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

Derf wrote:
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
ermm, agree, roads should be maintained, but NOT so the whole town comes to a standstill!what a waste of money for employers, petrol, wasted time for everyone and as someone else said, more pollution...... weekends or out of rush hour would have been fine or night time....... this is just BAD planning PURE AND SIMPLE! I have seen other major roads with rolling road blocks....why could we not have had that as an alternative too - all probably comes down to money- so they few thousands they have saved us tax payers in extra payments for overtime or 2 days of work.....has resulted in most of town suffering in some way or anther, plus businesses and emergency vehicles etc - missed appointments, etc etc...it is completely unacceptable for someone to CHOOSE to do this at this time and cause such chaos- it is bad enough when we have to endure the chaos after accidents - which we all know are regular on this road...... please everyone complain on number provided above
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it![/p][/quote]ermm, agree, roads should be maintained, but NOT so the whole town comes to a standstill!what a waste of money for employers, petrol, wasted time for everyone and as someone else said, more pollution...... weekends or out of rush hour would have been fine or night time....... this is just BAD planning PURE AND SIMPLE! I have seen other major roads with rolling road blocks....why could we not have had that as an alternative too - all probably comes down to money- so they few thousands they have saved us tax payers in extra payments for overtime or 2 days of work.....has resulted in most of town suffering in some way or anther, plus businesses and emergency vehicles etc - missed appointments, etc etc...it is completely unacceptable for someone to CHOOSE to do this at this time and cause such chaos- it is bad enough when we have to endure the chaos after accidents - which we all know are regular on this road...... please everyone complain on number provided above GAM

9:19am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Derf wrote:
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained.

It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
Warnings or not there's no other way in or out of this area that is suitable for the amount of traffic is there.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it![/p][/quote]Warnings or not there's no other way in or out of this area that is suitable for the amount of traffic is there. Hessenford

9:20am Tue 3 Dec 13

Dibbles2 says...

The irate commuter wrote:
8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!!

Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!!

Thousands late for work, flights!!!

Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!!

ONLY IN DORSET !!!!
Really? Its delaying people by 40 mins so if people are travelling to the airport that close to their flight time thats their look out. Thats the day if any that you would check the travel news surely?

I don't however understand why it could not have been done at night.
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: 8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!! Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!! Thousands late for work, flights!!! Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!! ONLY IN DORSET !!!![/p][/quote]Really? Its delaying people by 40 mins so if people are travelling to the airport that close to their flight time thats their look out. Thats the day if any that you would check the travel news surely? I don't however understand why it could not have been done at night. Dibbles2

9:21am Tue 3 Dec 13

ianbthomson says...

Derf wrote:
So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause?
It affects the WHOLE town and would have a lot less affect for EVERYONE after the rush hour or during the school holidays
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause?[/p][/quote]It affects the WHOLE town and would have a lot less affect for EVERYONE after the rush hour or during the school holidays ianbthomson

9:30am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Dibbles2 wrote:
The irate commuter wrote:
8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!!

Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!!

Thousands late for work, flights!!!

Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!!

ONLY IN DORSET !!!!
Really? Its delaying people by 40 mins so if people are travelling to the airport that close to their flight time thats their look out. Thats the day if any that you would check the travel news surely?

I don't however understand why it could not have been done at night.
More than 40 minutes delay I think you will find.
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: 8 miles of cones in readiness for the rush hour & not ONE workman in sight!!! Emergency vehicles stuck in the resulting gridlock !!! Thousands late for work, flights!!! Tonnes of extra carbon pumped in to Bournemouth's amtosphere from the stationary cars !!! ONLY IN DORSET !!!![/p][/quote]Really? Its delaying people by 40 mins so if people are travelling to the airport that close to their flight time thats their look out. Thats the day if any that you would check the travel news surely? I don't however understand why it could not have been done at night.[/p][/quote]More than 40 minutes delay I think you will find. Hessenford

9:31am Tue 3 Dec 13

Lawyer123 says...

There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning. Lawyer123

9:32am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Derf wrote:
So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause?
Nothing to do with wearing the road out unless you have seen anyone driving on top of the barriers.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So you want to use the road and wear it out, but would rather anyone else but you are inconvenienced by the roadworks you help cause?[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with wearing the road out unless you have seen anyone driving on top of the barriers. Hessenford

9:34am Tue 3 Dec 13

eaststandman says...

All these commuters who need to fly! Crikey. They did give a long prior warning. Still, nothing like taking responsibility for your own lives. Saying that, this could've been done through the night..........but there again, you're dealing with the public sector again.....we must save their jobs at all costs !
All these commuters who need to fly! Crikey. They did give a long prior warning. Still, nothing like taking responsibility for your own lives. Saying that, this could've been done through the night..........but there again, you're dealing with the public sector again.....we must save their jobs at all costs ! eaststandman

9:36am Tue 3 Dec 13

Buzetti says...

Virtual insanity!
Virtual insanity! Buzetti

9:38am Tue 3 Dec 13

PokesdownMark says...

The social and economic impact is this is HUGE. We simply should not allow this to happen.

The incompetence is staggering. They choose a weekday. They choose a day close to the shortest in the year so least number of hours daylight. They cone it off but don't start at the earliest opportunity. It really beggars belief. But they will be fine. We don't have a smart enough system to assess loss and use it as a measure against the people responsible. I'm not sure how you start to fix a system that broken?!
The social and economic impact is this is HUGE. We simply should not allow this to happen. The incompetence is staggering. They choose a weekday. They choose a day close to the shortest in the year so least number of hours daylight. They cone it off but don't start at the earliest opportunity. It really beggars belief. But they will be fine. We don't have a smart enough system to assess loss and use it as a measure against the people responsible. I'm not sure how you start to fix a system that broken?! PokesdownMark

9:43am Tue 3 Dec 13

corozin says...

I am absolutely speechless. The entire town centre was gridlocked this morning in the rush hour.

This man Burridge is incompetent and should be sacked. It is surely a basic responsibility of a man in his position to plan ahead for these kind of works, and more importantly to COMMUNICATE THEM to the public in advance. That is basic, basic management and he is clearly not up to it.

In addition, why could this work not have been done at night? Or even stared after the rush hour had ended? Again this is BASIC MANAGEMENT and Burridge has not carried this out

Claiming that it "only affects a few drivers" - I am willing to bet there are thousands of people who've been stuck in the jams this morning who would gladly kick his backside for what has happened. Frankly a chocolate rabbit could have managed this better than Bournemouth Council
I am absolutely speechless. The entire town centre was gridlocked this morning in the rush hour. This man Burridge is incompetent and should be sacked. It is surely a basic responsibility of a man in his position to plan ahead for these kind of works, and more importantly to COMMUNICATE THEM to the public in advance. That is basic, basic management and he is clearly not up to it. In addition, why could this work not have been done at night? Or even stared after the rush hour had ended? Again this is BASIC MANAGEMENT and Burridge has not carried this out Claiming that it "only affects a few drivers" - I am willing to bet there are thousands of people who've been stuck in the jams this morning who would gladly kick his backside for what has happened. Frankly a chocolate rabbit could have managed this better than Bournemouth Council corozin

9:43am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning. Hessenford

9:45am Tue 3 Dec 13

Lawyer123 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads.

How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!! Lawyer123

9:49am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads.

How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers. Hessenford

9:51am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.
As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low. Hessenford

9:53am Tue 3 Dec 13

Lawyer123 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads.

How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.
Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer...

If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light.

They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!?
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.[/p][/quote]Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer... If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light. They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!? Lawyer123

9:55am Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know!
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know! The irate commuter

9:56am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads.

How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.
Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer...

If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light.

They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!?
You are so full of excuses, do you work for the council, wouldn't have taken longer, couple of large council trucks with large amber flashing lights just as they do on motorways, no need miles of lane closures either.
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.[/p][/quote]Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer... If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light. They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!?[/p][/quote]You are so full of excuses, do you work for the council, wouldn't have taken longer, couple of large council trucks with large amber flashing lights just as they do on motorways, no need miles of lane closures either. Hessenford

9:58am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
totally agree Hessenford - Its all very well warning on the A338- what about the rest of us who were NOT on the A338, don't regularly travel on it and therefore did not see the signs but WERE stuck in chaos this morning- we were not able to plan aroudn it- even if you had tried to plan around it, that was impossible, everywhere was gridlocked as a result of the knock on affects!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]totally agree Hessenford - Its all very well warning on the A338- what about the rest of us who were NOT on the A338, don't regularly travel on it and therefore did not see the signs but WERE stuck in chaos this morning- we were not able to plan aroudn it- even if you had tried to plan around it, that was impossible, everywhere was gridlocked as a result of the knock on affects! GAM

10:05am Tue 3 Dec 13

Linkrider says...

Why can't the inspection be carried out with a rolling road closure using vehicles fitted with 'move over' signs and lights as it is done throughout Europe and the USA?
Only in the UK is it necessary to close miles of road for hours and hours, presumably because of health and safety!
Why can't the inspection be carried out with a rolling road closure using vehicles fitted with 'move over' signs and lights as it is done throughout Europe and the USA? Only in the UK is it necessary to close miles of road for hours and hours, presumably because of health and safety! Linkrider

10:06am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAM says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.
Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer... If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light. They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!?
you obviously were not affected this morning like the thousands of others that were - well, congratulations on being unaffected, however, if you had seen the ridiculous chaos that was around castle lane west and east/queens park, spur road, matchams, hurn etc at 8am - you may have had a different opinion..... and as for planning, as I said above, I don't see the notices, and I certainly have better things to do with my time than checking continuely for up coming roadworks that may or may not affect my journey by knock on affect from a major road that I don't travel on! :(.........
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]I can just imagine this amount of traffic on the back roads, as for checking barriers at night, there is a great invention coaled the torch or even better the searchlight, if these items are good enough for motorway repairs in other areas I'm sure their good enough to check safety barriers.[/p][/quote]Which would have taken longer to set up and take down therefore causing the lane to be closed for longer... If they used torches to check and then someone crashed and the barrier did not do its job properly everyone would kick off saying they should have checked it during the day when there was better light. They can't win and certainly can't please everyone so why get angry about it!?[/p][/quote]you obviously were not affected this morning like the thousands of others that were - well, congratulations on being unaffected, however, if you had seen the ridiculous chaos that was around castle lane west and east/queens park, spur road, matchams, hurn etc at 8am - you may have had a different opinion..... and as for planning, as I said above, I don't see the notices, and I certainly have better things to do with my time than checking continuely for up coming roadworks that may or may not affect my journey by knock on affect from a major road that I don't travel on! :(......... GAM

10:07am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

The irate commuter wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know!
Yes it is the 21st century, its about time the council caught up with it.
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know![/p][/quote]Yes it is the 21st century, its about time the council caught up with it. Hessenford

10:09am Tue 3 Dec 13

ben111 says...

I was their at 7am , they must have worked through the nght to get the cones out,
I was their at 7am , they must have worked through the nght to get the cones out, ben111

10:29am Tue 3 Dec 13

dartguru says...

The priority here is money. Not ours, but theirs.
So long as they get the job done in the cheapest possible way, that's all that matters. That the overall cost is ridiculously high compared to doing the job overnight with a rolling lane closure causing minimal disruption is irrelevent.
Incompetence in the extreme, but trot out the same old garbage apologising for the inconvenience and we'll all forget about it in a week.
There's a problem here and it won't be resolved without fundamental changes in interpretation of the Health and Safety regulations.
In the good old days we called it common sense, but little Hitlers put on their jobsworth hats, puff out their chests and ensure everyone knows how important they are. 100% certified idiot hiding behind idiotic regulations.
My advice to Mr Burridge, grow a pair and show some imagination.
The priority here is money. Not ours, but theirs. So long as they get the job done in the cheapest possible way, that's all that matters. That the overall cost is ridiculously high compared to doing the job overnight with a rolling lane closure causing minimal disruption is irrelevent. Incompetence in the extreme, but trot out the same old garbage apologising for the inconvenience and we'll all forget about it in a week. There's a problem here and it won't be resolved without fundamental changes in interpretation of the Health and Safety regulations. In the good old days we called it common sense, but little Hitlers put on their jobsworth hats, puff out their chests and ensure everyone knows how important they are. 100% certified idiot hiding behind idiotic regulations. My advice to Mr Burridge, grow a pair and show some imagination. dartguru

10:48am Tue 3 Dec 13

spryte67 says...

Burridge should resign as to allow this to happen. 50 minutes to go to work from Northbourne to Boscombe. Why should roadworks so far from the route to work, make people late for work? There is high intensity lighting that could be used (as shown by Dorset Fire & Rescue in a different story). I'm sure that it could be mounted on vehicles to allow the checking of the crash barrier at night. These people sit in Dorchester and honestly don't give a hoot about the chaos and stress it causes to anyone near the problem.
Burridge should resign as to allow this to happen. 50 minutes to go to work from Northbourne to Boscombe. Why should roadworks so far from the route to work, make people late for work? There is high intensity lighting that could be used (as shown by Dorset Fire & Rescue in a different story). I'm sure that it could be mounted on vehicles to allow the checking of the crash barrier at night. These people sit in Dorchester and honestly don't give a hoot about the chaos and stress it causes to anyone near the problem. spryte67

10:52am Tue 3 Dec 13

Derf says...

Why is it people expect others to go about their work at any other time except when they want to go to work?

How about all those 'stuck' in these lane closures doing their work at night or other times, would that not also alleviate the congestion?
Why is it people expect others to go about their work at any other time except when they want to go to work? How about all those 'stuck' in these lane closures doing their work at night or other times, would that not also alleviate the congestion? Derf

11:05am Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

How many more times is this council going to foul this up??

Lizards!
Surveys!
Checking a few bolts!

ONLY IN DORSET
How many more times is this council going to foul this up?? Lizards! Surveys! Checking a few bolts! ONLY IN DORSET The irate commuter

11:06am Tue 3 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

Gives conning burns chance to get some publicity.
Gives conning burns chance to get some publicity. pete woodley

11:09am Tue 3 Dec 13

dartguru says...

Derf wrote:
Why is it people expect others to go about their work at any other time except when they want to go to work? How about all those 'stuck' in these lane closures doing their work at night or other times, would that not also alleviate the congestion?
The difference is, as I'm sure you are aware, that these are publically funded jobs and, as such, should be carried out at times which are the most convenient for the public.

What they should most certainly not be, is carried out at times which cause the most inconvenience possible to the most number of people.

As I've already said, regulations have caused people to lose sight of what should be their prime motivation. Or maybe not. Maybe the nature of the job attracts those little people who feel it is their remit to pretend to be bigger than they really are.
Just like it is the remit of the keyboard warriors locked away in a darkedned room to deliberately inflame discussions with their comments.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: Why is it people expect others to go about their work at any other time except when they want to go to work? How about all those 'stuck' in these lane closures doing their work at night or other times, would that not also alleviate the congestion?[/p][/quote]The difference is, as I'm sure you are aware, that these are publically funded jobs and, as such, should be carried out at times which are the most convenient for the public. What they should most certainly not be, is carried out at times which cause the most inconvenience possible to the most number of people. As I've already said, regulations have caused people to lose sight of what should be their prime motivation. Or maybe not. Maybe the nature of the job attracts those little people who feel it is their remit to pretend to be bigger than they really are. Just like it is the remit of the keyboard warriors locked away in a darkedned room to deliberately inflame discussions with their comments. dartguru

11:14am Tue 3 Dec 13

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Why did the A338 queue stop at St Pauls roundabout? Did the police divert traffic there to Holdenhurst road? I would have expected it to go back to County gates and beyond
Why did the A338 queue stop at St Pauls roundabout? Did the police divert traffic there to Holdenhurst road? I would have expected it to go back to County gates and beyond Telscombe Cliffy

11:16am Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Yep plenty of notice, anyone with any common sense would have had plan B in readiness with a few alternative routes available there would have been no problems,i suspect many of those complaining were not affected probably not even awake when it all started but just get fired up at the little picture they see :)
Yep plenty of notice, anyone with any common sense would have had plan B in readiness with a few alternative routes available there would have been no problems,i suspect many of those complaining were not affected probably not even awake when it all started but just get fired up at the little picture they see :) retry69

11:20am Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

retry69 wrote:
Yep plenty of notice, anyone with any common sense would have had plan B in readiness with a few alternative routes available there would have been no problems,i suspect many of those complaining were not affected probably not even awake when it all started but just get fired up at the little picture they see :)
As usual you suspect wrongly.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Yep plenty of notice, anyone with any common sense would have had plan B in readiness with a few alternative routes available there would have been no problems,i suspect many of those complaining were not affected probably not even awake when it all started but just get fired up at the little picture they see :)[/p][/quote]As usual you suspect wrongly. Hessenford

11:28am Tue 3 Dec 13

Dibbles2 says...

The irate commuter wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know!
The visibility isnt exactly great today anyway so what would the difference of been? A mobile light lorry would have been an easy solution in the dark.
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]A torch maybe ? jeez it's the 21st century you know![/p][/quote]The visibility isnt exactly great today anyway so what would the difference of been? A mobile light lorry would have been an easy solution in the dark. Dibbles2

11:30am Tue 3 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

John Burridge, Dorset County Council’s chief engineer, said: “We are sorry that this may cause a delay for some drivers but it is important that the integrity of safety barriers is maintained for the protection of road users.


Too tight to pay weekend rates?
Let commuters suffer so we can save a few quid on overtime.
John Burridge, Dorset County Council’s chief engineer, said: “We are sorry that this may cause a delay for some drivers but it is important that the integrity of safety barriers is maintained for the protection of road users. Too tight to pay weekend rates? Let commuters suffer so we can save a few quid on overtime. BIGTONE

11:33am Tue 3 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

Why did they have to close the whole lane from Cooper Dean to Ashley Heath, as the idiot in charge says they will open sections as they complete the inspection, why not have closed the "top" half towards Ashley Heath after rush hour today and then the other half between ruch hour tomorrow?

I now taxpayers don't want to see money wasted but they also would like thse with far reaching "f*ck up" powers to use their brains. The guy in charge shoud be disciplined as this has shambles has created pain for thousands of people commuters and non-commuters alike.

This could have been done at night over a period of days to minimise impact to the taxpyers in this country.
Why did they have to close the whole lane from Cooper Dean to Ashley Heath, as the idiot in charge says they will open sections as they complete the inspection, why not have closed the "top" half towards Ashley Heath after rush hour today and then the other half between ruch hour tomorrow? I now taxpayers don't want to see money wasted but they also would like thse with far reaching "f*ck up" powers to use their brains. The guy in charge shoud be disciplined as this has shambles has created pain for thousands of people commuters and non-commuters alike. This could have been done at night over a period of days to minimise impact to the taxpyers in this country. bobthedestroyer

12:01pm Tue 3 Dec 13

jeebuscripes says...

Good morning lemmings!
Good morning lemmings! jeebuscripes

12:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
Good morning lemmings!
Hey welcome :)
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Good morning lemmings![/p][/quote]Hey welcome :) retry69

12:17pm Tue 3 Dec 13

beachcomber1 says...

omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.
omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so. beachcomber1

12:20pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.
Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :)
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.[/p][/quote]Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :) retry69

1:18pm Tue 3 Dec 13

born2bongo says...

Bournemouth Town - the pollution capital of the world. They are never happier than when motorists are stopped or creeping along in 1st gear. Traffic lights AND roundabouts. Traffic lights that stay red in every direction until an approaching car is forced to stop. The list is endless. From time to time they send observers out, and if they find the traffic is moving they tweak the flow to slow it down. It'll only be a matter of time before they find a way to charge us for parking while we are queuing.
Bournemouth Town - the pollution capital of the world. They are never happier than when motorists are stopped or creeping along in 1st gear. Traffic lights AND roundabouts. Traffic lights that stay red in every direction until an approaching car is forced to stop. The list is endless. From time to time they send observers out, and if they find the traffic is moving they tweak the flow to slow it down. It'll only be a matter of time before they find a way to charge us for parking while we are queuing. born2bongo

1:19pm Tue 3 Dec 13

scrumpyjack says...

Hessenford wrote:
As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.
So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist?
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.[/p][/quote]So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist? scrumpyjack

1:20pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Why did the A338 queue stop at St Pauls roundabout? Did the police divert traffic there to Holdenhurst road? I would have expected it to go back to County gates and beyond
Also another anomaly, if the traffic normally flows along 2 lanes at speeds of between 50 & 90 mph, why does it come to a complete standstill when there is only one lane?
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Why did the A338 queue stop at St Pauls roundabout? Did the police divert traffic there to Holdenhurst road? I would have expected it to go back to County gates and beyond[/p][/quote]Also another anomaly, if the traffic normally flows along 2 lanes at speeds of between 50 & 90 mph, why does it come to a complete standstill when there is only one lane? Wackerone

1:28pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

retry69 wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.
Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :)
Of course there are the other type eg son and friend who were warned at 06.15am of the delays but scoffed and probably said hey what does that old f******* git know.Well in this case a f******* lot more than you SUCKERS
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.[/p][/quote]Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :)[/p][/quote]Of course there are the other type eg son and friend who were warned at 06.15am of the delays but scoffed and probably said hey what does that old f******* git know.Well in this case a f******* lot more than you SUCKERS retry69

1:37pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Shleen89 says...

I agree with Lawyer123, It seems as if some people are narrow minded on the bigger picture. It once every two years. Not every single day.

And as an Engineering I know full well thats daylight inspections are vital instead of "just doing it with a torch"
For example a unit of light is measured in Lumens which is the LUX rating over a square meter. The Sun on a cloudy day like the one in question has a rating of 5,000-10,000 LUX . A POWERFUL flash light of a popular brand has 3,000 on full charge which lasts a total of 20mins. A whole nights inspection will leave you with the LUX rating the same as a candle....

So why not use lighting towers? Well firstly they also produce around the lower 4,000 lux rating but in order to inspect the whole A338 they will have to be moved frequenly turning one days worth of work into 5+. And these men are paid with your taxes so would you prefer a slight delay to your journey and have the streets cleaned or the council to increase taxes to cover your lighting towers and mens wages. Plus the 5+ day delays with the road cones in place...


Apart from the clear lighting issues you seem to be so terribly concerned about, how about taking a minute to think that if a flaw in the barrier was not spotted due to poor lighting and one of your relatives happen to come off the road at the point and be harmed due to the defect you would have a field day with blaming the council.

I don't work for the council and I was personally in the traffic jam this morning
I agree with Lawyer123, It seems as if some people are narrow minded on the bigger picture. It once every two years. Not every single day. And as an Engineering I know full well thats daylight inspections are vital instead of "just doing it with a torch" For example a unit of light is measured in Lumens which is the LUX rating over a square meter. The Sun on a cloudy day like the one in question has a rating of 5,000-10,000 LUX . A POWERFUL flash light of a popular brand has 3,000 on full charge which lasts a total of 20mins. A whole nights inspection will leave you with the LUX rating the same as a candle.... So why not use lighting towers? Well firstly they also produce around the lower 4,000 lux rating but in order to inspect the whole A338 they will have to be moved frequenly turning one days worth of work into 5+. And these men are paid with your taxes so would you prefer a slight delay to your journey and have the streets cleaned or the council to increase taxes to cover your lighting towers and mens wages. Plus the 5+ day delays with the road cones in place... Apart from the clear lighting issues you seem to be so terribly concerned about, how about taking a minute to think that if a flaw in the barrier was not spotted due to poor lighting and one of your relatives happen to come off the road at the point and be harmed due to the defect you would have a field day with blaming the council. I don't work for the council and I was personally in the traffic jam this morning Shleen89

1:51pm Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
Good morning lemmings!
Afternoon jobless !
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Good morning lemmings![/p][/quote]Afternoon jobless ! The irate commuter

2:17pm Tue 3 Dec 13

JohnGS says...

Does john buredge relies that in June /July it is daylight to 10pm and this work could be carried out over three to four evenings in daylight say 6-30 pm till 10-30pm ( after the peak period of traffic) and the weather would also be better for his workers ?
If mr Buredge cannot manage to arrange this I suggest that Dorset should find someone who can.
Think also of the polution having cars and vans going 12miles at 8mph and the cost of fuel and stress caused to the drivers.
Please use your brain if you have one.
Does john buredge relies that in June /July it is daylight to 10pm and this work could be carried out over three to four evenings in daylight say 6-30 pm till 10-30pm ( after the peak period of traffic) and the weather would also be better for his workers ? If mr Buredge cannot manage to arrange this I suggest that Dorset should find someone who can. Think also of the polution having cars and vans going 12miles at 8mph and the cost of fuel and stress caused to the drivers. Please use your brain if you have one. JohnGS

2:30pm Tue 3 Dec 13

jeebuscripes says...

The irate commuter wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote:
Good morning lemmings!
Afternoon jobless !
You have to stop commuting. you're killing yourself.

The effects of long and stressful commutes on the human body are widely known. Just do an internet search.

Make a change. Move house. Change your job. Ride a bike.

Or sit in your metal coffin and spill your bilge all over internet comment sections.
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Good morning lemmings![/p][/quote]Afternoon jobless ![/p][/quote]You have to stop commuting. you're killing yourself. The effects of long and stressful commutes on the human body are widely known. Just do an internet search. Make a change. Move house. Change your job. Ride a bike. Or sit in your metal coffin and spill your bilge all over internet comment sections. jeebuscripes

2:33pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.
So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmm
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.[/p][/quote]So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist?[/p][/quote]mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm retry69

2:54pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Stop Press says...

Unless you get a kick out of antagonising commuters? Do it in summertime, when the schools are shut and outside of rush-hour!
Unless you get a kick out of antagonising commuters? Do it in summertime, when the schools are shut and outside of rush-hour! Stop Press

3:07pm Tue 3 Dec 13

High Treason says...

Ye Gods! Connor Burns has missed his daily doughnut break to get noticed. Fat lot of good that will do.
Ye Gods! Connor Burns has missed his daily doughnut break to get noticed. Fat lot of good that will do. High Treason

3:35pm Tue 3 Dec 13

speckle01 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree... speckle01

3:42pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

speckle01 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
you could go via Iford :)
[quote][p][bold]speckle01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree...[/p][/quote]you could go via Iford :) retry69

3:48pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

retry69 wrote:
speckle01 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
you could go via Iford :)
In fact a quick poll of the call centre here say that out of the 10-15 that come up from Poole/Bournemouth area most of them avoid that road anyway because of the suicidal lunatics that join at Blackwater Bridge
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speckle01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree...[/p][/quote]you could go via Iford :)[/p][/quote]In fact a quick poll of the call centre here say that out of the 10-15 that come up from Poole/Bournemouth area most of them avoid that road anyway because of the suicidal lunatics that join at Blackwater Bridge retry69

3:55pm Tue 3 Dec 13

utciad says...

Derf wrote:
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained.

It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
Not heard about weekend working then? when less people are on the road? Maybe work AFTER 9AM and until 4PM?
Then again, that's just too easy isn't it??
How about I said we start emptying your dustbins at 1AM? Bet you'd soon complain about the noise of the dustcarts up and down the street at that time of the morning
Basically it's all about using a bit of COMMON SENSE, which it appears that the Highways agency DO NOT HAVE.
Their attitude, like so much of our 'authorities' is 'S*D YOU JACK, We are allright... we don't give a monkeys about you, in fact, we will go out of our way to annoy you as much as we possibly can'
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it![/p][/quote]Not heard about weekend working then? when less people are on the road? Maybe work AFTER 9AM and until 4PM? Then again, that's just too easy isn't it?? How about I said we start emptying your dustbins at 1AM? Bet you'd soon complain about the noise of the dustcarts up and down the street at that time of the morning Basically it's all about using a bit of COMMON SENSE, which it appears that the Highways agency DO NOT HAVE. Their attitude, like so much of our 'authorities' is 'S*D YOU JACK, We are allright... we don't give a monkeys about you, in fact, we will go out of our way to annoy you as much as we possibly can' utciad

4:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.
So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist?
Some of us work night shifts, unlike council workers, and I got caught in this mess on the way home at 8.30 this morning so you suspect wrong.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: As for the 40 minute delays, a friend of mine has just arrived at my home in Iford, it has taken him over an hour to get here from Moordown, so 40 mins in a little low.[/p][/quote]So as Retry69 suspected you have been at home completely unaffacted by this but are the main person getting their knickers in a twist?[/p][/quote]Some of us work night shifts, unlike council workers, and I got caught in this mess on the way home at 8.30 this morning so you suspect wrong. Hessenford

4:14pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Royston-S says...

This is just, yet again, complete muppetry by the highways dept.

Ok, so it needed to be done in daylight, I get that but have they not heard of a rolling inspection? How about setting up a rolling 50m exclusion where all safety considerations are met so the inspectors can do there job safely with minimal disruption to the roads. It doesnt take much to clog up all the roads around Bournemouth and the highways people just don't seem capable of joined up thinking.
This is just, yet again, complete muppetry by the highways dept. Ok, so it needed to be done in daylight, I get that but have they not heard of a rolling inspection? How about setting up a rolling 50m exclusion where all safety considerations are met so the inspectors can do there job safely with minimal disruption to the roads. It doesnt take much to clog up all the roads around Bournemouth and the highways people just don't seem capable of joined up thinking. Royston-S

4:16pm Tue 3 Dec 13

bobthedestroyer says...

retry69 wrote:
speckle01 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
you could go via Iford :)
Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speckle01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree...[/p][/quote]you could go via Iford :)[/p][/quote]Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more bobthedestroyer

4:24pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
speckle01 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
you could go via Iford :)
Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more
I got to Southampton this am no problem and I don't forsee any going home so whats you point,you want Iford moved so its not at the end of Castle lane ?
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speckle01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree...[/p][/quote]you could go via Iford :)[/p][/quote]Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more[/p][/quote]I got to Southampton this am no problem and I don't forsee any going home so whats you point,you want Iford moved so its not at the end of Castle lane ? retry69

5:23pm Tue 3 Dec 13

The irate commuter says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
The irate commuter wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote: Good morning lemmings!
Afternoon jobless !
You have to stop commuting. you're killing yourself. The effects of long and stressful commutes on the human body are widely known. Just do an internet search. Make a change. Move house. Change your job. Ride a bike. Or sit in your metal coffin and spill your bilge all over internet comment sections.
I will continue to make a contibution to society .... you continue to watch Jeremy Kyle
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: Good morning lemmings![/p][/quote]Afternoon jobless ![/p][/quote]You have to stop commuting. you're killing yourself. The effects of long and stressful commutes on the human body are widely known. Just do an internet search. Make a change. Move house. Change your job. Ride a bike. Or sit in your metal coffin and spill your bilge all over internet comment sections.[/p][/quote]I will continue to make a contibution to society .... you continue to watch Jeremy Kyle The irate commuter

5:32pm Tue 3 Dec 13

omnipitone says...

I live locally and didnt see any signs none on the Castle Lane approach to the chaos and as a commuter I leave at 7.30 in the dark and drive home at 7.00 again in the dark I am assuming that as we are in the depths of winter these were illuminated signs.
Its shoddy planning and theres no excuse for it ; if they had left it a couple of weeks we would be in the school holidays with 30% less traffic on the roads
I live locally and didnt see any signs none on the Castle Lane approach to the chaos and as a commuter I leave at 7.30 in the dark and drive home at 7.00 again in the dark I am assuming that as we are in the depths of winter these were illuminated signs. Its shoddy planning and theres no excuse for it ; if they had left it a couple of weeks we would be in the school holidays with 30% less traffic on the roads omnipitone

5:53pm Tue 3 Dec 13

MrPitiful says...

So is posting a tweet the only thing our MP Conor Whatisface has done then.

We are so blessed and fortunate to have such a dynamic, proactive & effective figurehead representing us in Parliament.
So is posting a tweet the only thing our MP Conor Whatisface has done then. We are so blessed and fortunate to have such a dynamic, proactive & effective figurehead representing us in Parliament. MrPitiful

5:58pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Arjay says...

With so much potential traffic at peak times, the rush hour in most towns and cities will fill the major roads to a just acceptable level (i.e. at virtually maximum capacity). But working so close to this 'limit' means that when ANYTHING happens to slow down the expected flow rate, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards.
And the answer is not to build more roads. That would simply tend to increase the traffic to a new 'critical' mass.
Somehow, there needs to be incentives to actually reduce the traffic... roads tolls?..... improved and subsidised public transport?....I'm sure it's all been thought of before, and nothing is actioned.
So we stay with this 'critical' level of traffic, and the panic that ensues when even a minor event causes grid lock will just have to be endured... unless you've got a better idea?....
With so much potential traffic at peak times, the rush hour in most towns and cities will fill the major roads to a just acceptable level (i.e. at virtually maximum capacity). But working so close to this 'limit' means that when ANYTHING happens to slow down the expected flow rate, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards. And the answer is not to build more roads. That would simply tend to increase the traffic to a new 'critical' mass. Somehow, there needs to be incentives to actually reduce the traffic... roads tolls?..... improved and subsidised public transport?....I'm sure it's all been thought of before, and nothing is actioned. So we stay with this 'critical' level of traffic, and the panic that ensues when even a minor event causes grid lock will just have to be endured... unless you've got a better idea?.... Arjay

6:09pm Tue 3 Dec 13

retry69 says...

retry69 wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
retry69 wrote:
speckle01 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
I agree...
you could go via Iford :)
Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more
I got to Southampton this am no problem and I don't forsee any going home so whats you point,you want Iford moved so its not at the end of Castle lane ?
In case PokesdownMark is still following this thread that's foresee of course not forsee ahem LOL :)
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speckle01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]I agree...[/p][/quote]you could go via Iford :)[/p][/quote]Funnily enough Iford is at the end of Cast Lane and was a traffic jam......you really should get out of the house and experience things more[/p][/quote]I got to Southampton this am no problem and I don't forsee any going home so whats you point,you want Iford moved so its not at the end of Castle lane ?[/p][/quote]In case PokesdownMark is still following this thread that's foresee of course not forsee ahem LOL :) retry69

8:38pm Tue 3 Dec 13

West moors 1 says...

Having been involved with this type of construction issue before, I can confirm the council highways have no concern for the general public, they will do what they want, when they want and at far more cost than it should be. They are generally inefficient, careless with our money and with total disregard to the public. As for the workmen starting as soon as the cones were put out, you're having a laugh!!!
Having been involved with this type of construction issue before, I can confirm the council highways have no concern for the general public, they will do what they want, when they want and at far more cost than it should be. They are generally inefficient, careless with our money and with total disregard to the public. As for the workmen starting as soon as the cones were put out, you're having a laugh!!! West moors 1

9:55pm Tue 3 Dec 13

spooki says...

Lawyer123 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Lawyer123 wrote:
There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better.

It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road.

We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.
Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.
No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads.

How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!!
If the road was closed Monday night at 8pm (why?) why was there "chaos" yesterday morning? Or is it a new kind of time slip-road hahaha. No seriously, isn't today Tuesday?
"One lane of the northbound carriageway from Blackwater Junction to Ashley Heath was closed from 8pm on Monday while 5.5 miles of cones were put out. The restrictions then caused chaos yesterday morning" wouldn't yesterday morning be Monday morning? And if they can't check the things at night why close it at 8pm?
Oh and I was told they were not "crash barriers", they're "safety barriers".
Somebody is having a laugh with some of these road safety ideas. Are they just trying to p*** everyone off?
[quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawyer123[/bold] wrote: There have been signs up for weeks about the road works - it's not the council's bad planning but everyone else's if you choose not to read them and organise your journey better. It would be far too dangerous to put cones out during the day with cars driving ridiculously fast along that road. We pay for the roads to be maintained - just let them do it and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Idiot, how can you organise your journey better when this is the only viable road in and out of the area at rush hour times, this work should have been started after the rush hour or over night, don't blame commuters for the councils lack of intelligence and planning.[/p][/quote]No need to be rude! I am a commuter and managed to plan my journey! Also, it's not the only viable route - there are a lot of other ways to get around through the back roads. How do you expect them to check the barriers properly in the dark!![/p][/quote]If the road was closed Monday night at 8pm (why?) why was there "chaos" yesterday morning? Or is it a new kind of time slip-road hahaha. No seriously, isn't today Tuesday? "One lane of the northbound carriageway from Blackwater Junction to Ashley Heath was closed from 8pm on Monday while 5.5 miles of cones were put out. The restrictions then caused chaos yesterday morning" wouldn't yesterday morning be Monday morning? And if they can't check the things at night why close it at 8pm? Oh and I was told they were not "crash barriers", they're "safety barriers". Somebody is having a laugh with some of these road safety ideas. Are they just trying to p*** everyone off? spooki

10:33pm Tue 3 Dec 13

tbpoole says...

ianbthomson wrote:
Derf wrote:
So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained.

It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it!
Everyone on hear realises that work needs to be done but why can't it be scheduled on the MAJOR road out of town during school holidays when the traffic is a lot lighter OR the cones put out after 8.30am
Because the tourists wouldn't appreciate it. Plus once you've started the job you can't take the cones off until it's finished. Simples.
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: So everyone wants to use the roads and wear them out, but doesn't want the roads maintained. It's not as if you didn't have plenty of warning about it![/p][/quote]Everyone on hear realises that work needs to be done but why can't it be scheduled on the MAJOR road out of town during school holidays when the traffic is a lot lighter OR the cones put out after 8.30am[/p][/quote]Because the tourists wouldn't appreciate it. Plus once you've started the job you can't take the cones off until it's finished. Simples. tbpoole

10:46pm Tue 3 Dec 13

tbpoole says...

retry69 wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.
Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :)
That's right. When I lived in Reading my 4 mile commute to work regularly took up to an hour and that was 15 years ago. God knows how long it takes now. You lot don't know you are born!
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: omg an hour's delay! anyone fuming about that should go drive in London for a week or so.[/p][/quote]Again I repeat, I suspect that most of the moaners have not actually left the warmth of their home today so it really does not apply to them :)[/p][/quote]That's right. When I lived in Reading my 4 mile commute to work regularly took up to an hour and that was 15 years ago. God knows how long it takes now. You lot don't know you are born! tbpoole

6:37am Wed 4 Dec 13

Ventino says...

I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way. Ventino

6:56am Wed 4 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
[quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :) retry69

7:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

tbpoole says...

Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Because you can do a lot more things with a whole lane closure like clean signs, pick litter and empty gullies which you can't do with a rolling closure. They were doing exactlly the same thing yesterday morning on the A350 dual carriageway between Chippenham and the M4.
[quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Because you can do a lot more things with a whole lane closure like clean signs, pick litter and empty gullies which you can't do with a rolling closure. They were doing exactlly the same thing yesterday morning on the A350 dual carriageway between Chippenham and the M4. tbpoole

9:03am Wed 4 Dec 13

chiesa says...

WELL PUBLICISED BEFORE????
Utter rubbish - I drive this road everyday, where were the signs? AND what about these light up Traffic Management signs that only ever seem to advertise roadworks at richmond hill or occassionally ice on the copper down flyover - they didn't warn of this. come on give drivers some credit.
Total Chaos again in Bournemouth, 1hr 35 minutes to do 7 miles journey is a joke. Why not wait till the school holidays when it's a lot quieter on the roads.
WELL PUBLICISED BEFORE???? Utter rubbish - I drive this road everyday, where were the signs? AND what about these light up Traffic Management signs that only ever seem to advertise roadworks at richmond hill or occassionally ice on the copper down flyover - they didn't warn of this. come on give drivers some credit. Total Chaos again in Bournemouth, 1hr 35 minutes to do 7 miles journey is a joke. Why not wait till the school holidays when it's a lot quieter on the roads. chiesa

9:23am Wed 4 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense. Lord Spring

9:31am Wed 4 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Not all roses this morning ,all but one traffic light was against me coming towards Southampton Uni,so pen to paper and look out for an anti- Southampton council/highways letter in the Echo up here.BTW still vacancies for Happy and Bashful, no commenters seem interested,wonder why ? You have a good day mlud :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Not all roses this morning ,all but one traffic light was against me coming towards Southampton Uni,so pen to paper and look out for an anti- Southampton council/highways letter in the Echo up here.BTW still vacancies for Happy and Bashful, no commenters seem interested,wonder why ? You have a good day mlud :) retry69

10:21am Wed 4 Dec 13

born2bongo says...

Arjay wrote:
With so much potential traffic at peak times, the rush hour in most towns and cities will fill the major roads to a just acceptable level (i.e. at virtually maximum capacity). But working so close to this 'limit' means that when ANYTHING happens to slow down the expected flow rate, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards. And the answer is not to build more roads. That would simply tend to increase the traffic to a new 'critical' mass. Somehow, there needs to be incentives to actually reduce the traffic... roads tolls?..... improved and subsidised public transport?....I'm sure it's all been thought of before, and nothing is actioned. So we stay with this 'critical' level of traffic, and the panic that ensues when even a minor event causes grid lock will just have to be endured... unless you've got a better idea?....
Yes I have a better idea. We live in a service economy. A large proportion of us could be working from home. So if the government uses the money they are wasting on HS2 to ensure high speed internet connections throughout the country and encourage employers to allow staff to work from home the first thing that will happen is we will cut road congestion and pollution. Next, those people will realise they don't need to live in the overcrowded South East and will start moving out into nicer, quieter, cheaper areas of the country. When they do that they will introduce a demand for services in areas where there is currently high unemployment, raising the quality of life and expectations of the local population.
That won't happen because people vote for governments and then business tell them what to do. It won't happen because it is not short term so there is nothing in it for our one-term politicians. It's only been for a very short time in the span of human history that we have had to travel for employment and it's time we reversed it
[quote][p][bold]Arjay[/bold] wrote: With so much potential traffic at peak times, the rush hour in most towns and cities will fill the major roads to a just acceptable level (i.e. at virtually maximum capacity). But working so close to this 'limit' means that when ANYTHING happens to slow down the expected flow rate, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards. And the answer is not to build more roads. That would simply tend to increase the traffic to a new 'critical' mass. Somehow, there needs to be incentives to actually reduce the traffic... roads tolls?..... improved and subsidised public transport?....I'm sure it's all been thought of before, and nothing is actioned. So we stay with this 'critical' level of traffic, and the panic that ensues when even a minor event causes grid lock will just have to be endured... unless you've got a better idea?....[/p][/quote]Yes I have a better idea. We live in a service economy. A large proportion of us could be working from home. So if the government uses the money they are wasting on HS2 to ensure high speed internet connections throughout the country and encourage employers to allow staff to work from home the first thing that will happen is we will cut road congestion and pollution. Next, those people will realise they don't need to live in the overcrowded South East and will start moving out into nicer, quieter, cheaper areas of the country. When they do that they will introduce a demand for services in areas where there is currently high unemployment, raising the quality of life and expectations of the local population. That won't happen because people vote for governments and then business tell them what to do. It won't happen because it is not short term so there is nothing in it for our one-term politicians. It's only been for a very short time in the span of human history that we have had to travel for employment and it's time we reversed it born2bongo

7:32pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Ventino says...

retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
Because a) in over a decade of commuting via the spur rd, there has never been a need to allow more than 20-30 minutes extra in the event of roadworks and it was this I based my departure time on; b) I have other commitments before leaving for work, so any earlier is impossible and c) I think you are missing my point, were they conducted in the way I suggest - and you say you agree with - there wouldn't have been such long delays
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]Because a) in over a decade of commuting via the spur rd, there has never been a need to allow more than 20-30 minutes extra in the event of roadworks and it was this I based my departure time on; b) I have other commitments before leaving for work, so any earlier is impossible and c) I think you are missing my point, were they conducted in the way I suggest - and you say you agree with - there wouldn't have been such long delays Ventino

7:35pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Ventino says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry? Ventino

7:41pm Wed 4 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Apology accepted :)
[quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Apology accepted :) retry69

7:45am Thu 5 Dec 13

missymo46 says...

It took me an hour and 40 mins to get from Wallisdown to Christchurch for work, leaving home at 7.30am. Mind you I did feel sorry for that young girl who's car had overheated on the cooper dean flyover. Bless her she looked mortified!
It took me an hour and 40 mins to get from Wallisdown to Christchurch for work, leaving home at 7.30am. Mind you I did feel sorry for that young girl who's car had overheated on the cooper dean flyover. Bless her she looked mortified! missymo46

8:22am Thu 5 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
[quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue. Lord Spring

8:50am Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi
ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :) retry69

9:36am Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi

ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)[/p][/quote]And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :) retry69

10:43am Thu 5 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi


ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)
I forgot what was it.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)[/p][/quote]And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)[/p][/quote]I forgot what was it. Lord Spring

11:14am Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi



ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)
I forgot what was it.
Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)[/p][/quote]And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)[/p][/quote]I forgot what was it.[/p][/quote]Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :) retry69

2:46pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi




ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)
I forgot what was it.
Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :)
Have you shown the Echo your Section 17, So you can continue your agitations
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)[/p][/quote]And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)[/p][/quote]I forgot what was it.[/p][/quote]Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :)[/p][/quote]Have you shown the Echo your Section 17, So you can continue your agitations Lord Spring

3:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Ventino wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Ventino wrote:
I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light.
I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal.
I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.
Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)
If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.
Sorry?
Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs .
You will find his response on a later issue.
you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi





ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)
And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)
I forgot what was it.
Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :)
Have you shown the Echo your Section 17, So you can continue your agitations
I don't want to know how you are knowledgeable about Section 17 but that is very funny,too funny for this comic LMFAO :)
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ventino[/bold] wrote: I know it's been said before, but I fail to see why a) a rolling roadblock could not have been used, thus minimising disruption and time taken putting out and collecting in the cones and b) why there was no one working as soon as it was light. I left 20 minutes earlier testerday and was still 35 minutes later to work than normal. I'm aware that such work is essential to the upkeep of our roads, but employing a little common sense with it's implementation would go a long way.[/p][/quote]Yep totally agree so if you had used some common sense and left 55mins early you would have been on time.Where as I left this am 60 minutes earlier and im 25 minutes early for work which one of us lacks more common sense ? :)[/p][/quote]If you got that Snow White job you would be late getting to bed, so best to forget becoming a thespian, use your common sense.[/p][/quote]Sorry?[/p][/quote]Retry69 and myself cover several issues , so we remember past comments and pull one another legs . You will find his response on a later issue.[/p][/quote]you make a very good point which is lacking in many echo commenters,rememberi ng past comments unfortunately its usually their own that slips the old memory banks :)[/p][/quote]And of course something is amiss when one has to explain ones own comment,isnt that so mlud :)[/p][/quote]I forgot what was it.[/p][/quote]Apparently according to one of the resident serial moaners and groaners on another thread I need severe sectioning,whys it taken him so long to come to that conclusion I ask myself,as long as we are happy eh what say you mlud :)[/p][/quote]Have you shown the Echo your Section 17, So you can continue your agitations[/p][/quote]I don't want to know how you are knowledgeable about Section 17 but that is very funny,too funny for this comic LMFAO :) retry69

3:35pm Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

In fact I might make it Snow Whites punch line, emphasis on punch :)
In fact I might make it Snow Whites punch line, emphasis on punch :) retry69

4:03pm Thu 5 Dec 13

retry69 says...

WTF what do you mean agitations,explain yourself !!!!!
WTF what do you mean agitations,explain yourself !!!!! retry69

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