A BOURNEMOUTH lap-dancing club could lose its licence amid allegations performers have been getting too close to customers.
Wiggle, in Old Christchurch Road, is facing claims its staff have breached strict rules on the sexual entertainment it can offer.
Its sexual entertainment licence is currently up for renewal and both Dorset Police and Bournemouth council’s licensing department have raised objections.
They claim the applicants, Portsmouth-based Wellhot Ltd, are unsuitable to continue to hold such a licence. The matter will be discussed at Bournemouth’s licensing board meeting on Thursday, when councillors will decide what action to take.
In her report to councillors, senior licensing officer Sarah Rogers said she visited the club in August and saw several conditions being breached.
These include dancers straddling customers, simulating sexual acts and inappropriately touching themselves, customers and other performers.
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Her report also states that drug tests carried out in the performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use.
And the club is also alleged to have been unable to provide CCTV footage when asked.
PC Darren Harris, who also visited the venue, said in his report: “Dorset Police are of the opinion the management and owners of Wiggle have failed in their legal obligations in ensuring the venue is run in accordance with the conditions of the Sexual Entertainment Venue Licence and have demonstrated themselves to be unsuitable to operate such a venue.”
- WIGGLE is housed in the former register office in Christchurch Road and was first opened by controversial entrepreneur Richard Carr.
In April 2006 he denied it would be a lap-dancing club and said it would be a restaurant and entertainment venue with ‘no public dancing whatsoever’.
A planning application for a restaurant, with what he described as ‘all sorts of acts such as comedians and illusionists’ was granted but within months the venue was operating as a pole-dancing club.
When threatened with council enforcement action, Mr Carr applied for a retrospective change of use.
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Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
alasdair1967 wrote…
Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
This is the Echo you are reading, don't forget.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
This is the Echo you are reading, don't forget.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
So has the registry office, background history is often illuminating.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Why has Richard Carr been drawn into this story , at the end of the day he is no longer the owner, the issue is between the current owners well hot ltd and the councils licensing department
So has the registry office, background history is often illuminating.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
Why don't you ask then? I would imagine they were no more than necessary to establish how they operate when they think no one's watching but you might be right, they might have been having a jolly up eh?
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
Why don't you ask then? I would imagine they were no more than necessary to establish how they operate when they think no one's watching but you might be right, they might have been having a jolly up eh?
They will Wiggle out of it.
I can see it now in the council chamber........."rig
ht everyone on the coach. We need to take a look"
They will Wiggle out of it.
I can see it now in the council chamber........."rig
ht everyone on the coach. We need to take a look"
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
I don’t know why you seem to think that Sarah Rogers would have claimed a large amount of expenses for the visit. The amount of expenses for this type of visit is tightly controlled.
If you are that curious why don’t you find out and let us all know?
I look forward to your announcement in the ‘your say’ section of the Bournemouth Echo.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
I don’t know why you seem to think that Sarah Rogers would have claimed a large amount of expenses for the visit. The amount of expenses for this type of visit is tightly controlled.
If you are that curious why don’t you find out and let us all know?
I look forward to your announcement in the ‘your say’ section of the Bournemouth Echo.
Reader Echo wrote…
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
If you are that curious why don’t you find out and let us all know?
I look forward to your announcement in the ‘your say’ section of the Bournemouth Echo.
Could alasdair1967 have some connection with Mr. Carr or this story.
Reader Echo wrote…
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
If you are that curious why don’t you find out and let us all know?
I look forward to your announcement in the ‘your say’ section of the Bournemouth Echo.
Could alasdair1967 have some connection with Mr. Carr or this story.
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
"performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use." - as opposed to the acceptable level of drug use.
I think Darren Harris and Sarah Rogers should submit a joint report.
"performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use." - as opposed to the acceptable level of drug use.
I think Darren Harris and Sarah Rogers should submit a joint report.
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
Hmmm....not sure why the council / police / Old Colonial have become all 'Mary Whitehouse' over this. There has gotta be more pressing matters to attend to. How's about worrying about the epidemic of drunken violence across the whole of the fabled nighttime economy? Is the stuff mentioned more serious than a glass in the face? Do any of the activities outlined in the article actually hurt anyone? If it's not to your taste, visit another of Bouremouth's many nocturnal attractions, or stay home and watch Midsomer Murders. 'An it harm none, do what ye will'....
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
Hmmm....not sure why the council / police / Old Colonial have become all 'Mary Whitehouse' over this. There has gotta be more pressing matters to attend to. How's about worrying about the epidemic of drunken violence across the whole of the fabled nighttime economy? Is the stuff mentioned more serious than a glass in the face? Do any of the activities outlined in the article actually hurt anyone? If it's not to your taste, visit another of Bouremouth's many nocturnal attractions, or stay home and watch Midsomer Murders. 'An it harm none, do what ye will'....
Unsure as to why the council are intent on shutting down gentlemens clubs in the area but appear to turn a blind eye to the brothels that operate in the area, the flyers advertising them can clearly be seen littering the streets of Bournemouth at night.
In reality Wiggle has complied with the investigation and since the visit have changed management, upgraded CCTV systems and security and are now complying with licencing regulations to a far higher degree than some other gentlemans clubs in the area.
Unfortunately high drug readings as a result of drug use occur in the majority of bars and Wiggle now taken appropriate preventative steps. They are by no means unique in having a positive drug reading.
Gentlemens clubs actually cause far less noise and disruption that normal pubs and clubs due to lack of loud music blaring from the premises and lack of a queuing area outside that causing both noise and obstruction to the public on the pavements.
Licencing have never had a problem with Wiggle on previous occasions and this recent objection conveniently seems to tie in the with construction of flats to the rear of the club.
On a separate note every year when the Police Federation conference is taking place at the BIC Wiggle is inundated with police officers in the evenings who seems to have raised no concerns over the years...
Unsure as to why the council are intent on shutting down gentlemens clubs in the area but appear to turn a blind eye to the brothels that operate in the area, the flyers advertising them can clearly be seen littering the streets of Bournemouth at night.
In reality Wiggle has complied with the investigation and since the visit have changed management, upgraded CCTV systems and security and are now complying with licencing regulations to a far higher degree than some other gentlemans clubs in the area.
Unfortunately high drug readings as a result of drug use occur in the majority of bars and Wiggle now taken appropriate preventative steps. They are by no means unique in having a positive drug reading.
Gentlemens clubs actually cause far less noise and disruption that normal pubs and clubs due to lack of loud music blaring from the premises and lack of a queuing area outside that causing both noise and obstruction to the public on the pavements.
Licencing have never had a problem with Wiggle on previous occasions and this recent objection conveniently seems to tie in the with construction of flats to the rear of the club.
On a separate note every year when the Police Federation conference is taking place at the BIC Wiggle is inundated with police officers in the evenings who seems to have raised no concerns over the years...
The gentlemans clubs attract the least amount of trouble in town.
Spoilsports.
The gentlemans clubs attract the least amount of trouble in town.
Spoilsports.
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
some oeople need to take a chill pill,maybe my humour is beyond some people ,insert LOL at the end of above statement
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
some oeople need to take a chill pill,maybe my humour is beyond some people ,insert LOL at the end of above statement
There appears to have been a lot of Council action to "improve" the area around Horseshoe Common. Is the Councils enthusiasm for closing Wriggle about the clubs alleged breaches of their licence or to do with helping to sell the flats being built nearby a project the Council is helping to fund ?
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As T Girl points out its not the licensed sex establishments the Council and police should be concentrating their efforts in closing down but the illegal brothels which are often involved in sex trafficking and exploitation.
There appears to have been a lot of Council action to "improve" the area around Horseshoe Common. Is the Councils enthusiasm for closing Wriggle about the clubs alleged breaches of their licence or to do with helping to sell the flats being built nearby a project the Council is helping to fund ?
.
As T Girl points out its not the licensed sex establishments the Council and police should be concentrating their efforts in closing down but the illegal brothels which are often involved in sex trafficking and exploitation.
alasdair1967 wrote…
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
Wrong site for humour LOL :)
alasdair1967 wrote…
alasdair1967 wrote…
Would love to see Sarah Rogers expense claims for that day
Wrong site for humour LOL :)
"Gentlemen's Clubs" - a euphemistic phrase for the encouragement of a reprehensible attitude toward women. How many owners of these places have their partner or daughter performing there?
"Gentlemen's Clubs" - a euphemistic phrase for the encouragement of a reprehensible attitude toward women. How many owners of these places have their partner or daughter performing there?
"Her report also states that drug tests carried out in the performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use"
What? This implies that there is an acceptable level of drug use... If there is any evidence of use of illegal drugs, they should be closed down. The article doesn't say anything about the legality or otherwise of the drugs being used, so I guess it could be an unacceptablely high level of Lemsip...
As for the gratuitous reference to Richard Carr... Why not? He does seem to be always somewhere in the background where anything in Bournemouth is seedy or on the fringes of the law... Without his 'sage like' insight into what the people want and supreme business accumen, Wiggle might never have existed... What then?
"Her report also states that drug tests carried out in the performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use"
What? This implies that there is an acceptable level of drug use... If there is any evidence of use of illegal drugs, they should be closed down. The article doesn't say anything about the legality or otherwise of the drugs being used, so I guess it could be an unacceptablely high level of Lemsip...
As for the gratuitous reference to Richard Carr... Why not? He does seem to be always somewhere in the background where anything in Bournemouth is seedy or on the fringes of the law... Without his 'sage like' insight into what the people want and supreme business accumen, Wiggle might never have existed... What then?
I wonder if they'd be in trouble if the club were run by the council's chums at S+D Leisure? Or in this case, maybe S+M Leisure?
I wonder if they'd be in trouble if the club were run by the council's chums at S+D Leisure? Or in this case, maybe S+M Leisure?
Molecatcher wrote…
"Her report also states that drug tests carried out in the performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use"
What? This implies that there is an acceptable level of drug use... If there is any evidence of use of illegal drugs, they should be closed down. The article doesn't say anything about the legality or otherwise of the drugs being used, so I guess it could be an unacceptablely high level of Lemsip...
As for the gratuitous reference to Richard Carr... Why not? He does seem to be always somewhere in the background where anything in Bournemouth is seedy or on the fringes of the law... Without his 'sage like' insight into what the people want and supreme business accumen, Wiggle might never have existed... What then?
the test involves swabbing the toilet to see if cocaine has ever touched that surface. It is extremely difficult to for a club to stop people using drugs on their premises. to give you an idea of the scope of the 'problem':
"Police have stopped testing notes for traces of the drug in criminal investigations as the contamination is so widespread.
According to the Forensic Science Service the results are now meaningless as every note tests positive for cocaine."
Therefore, provided you have a tenner in your wallet there is evidence linking you to the use of cocaine.
link: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1241775/Every-Britis
h-bank-note-contamin
ated-cocaine-weeks-e
ntering-circulation.
html
Molecatcher wrote…
"Her report also states that drug tests carried out in the performers’ changing room, toilet and public toilet revealed ‘unacceptably high’ levels of drug use"
What? This implies that there is an acceptable level of drug use... If there is any evidence of use of illegal drugs, they should be closed down. The article doesn't say anything about the legality or otherwise of the drugs being used, so I guess it could be an unacceptablely high level of Lemsip...
As for the gratuitous reference to Richard Carr... Why not? He does seem to be always somewhere in the background where anything in Bournemouth is seedy or on the fringes of the law... Without his 'sage like' insight into what the people want and supreme business accumen, Wiggle might never have existed... What then?
the test involves swabbing the toilet to see if cocaine has ever touched that surface. It is extremely difficult to for a club to stop people using drugs on their premises. to give you an idea of the scope of the 'problem':
"Police have stopped testing notes for traces of the drug in criminal investigations as the contamination is so widespread.
According to the Forensic Science Service the results are now meaningless as every note tests positive for cocaine."
Therefore, provided you have a tenner in your wallet there is evidence linking you to the use of cocaine.
link: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1241775/Every-Britis
h-bank-note-contamin
ated-cocaine-weeks-e
ntering-circulation.
html
BoscVegas wrote…
Molecatcher wrote…
They don't test the notes (are they really put into the girls g-strings?) - they test the surfaces likely to provide somewhere to snort from.
(again I suspect not driectly from the girl's body as also portrayed a lot in US films).
Toilet cisterns in the main but also seats, wash basin stands / any shelves that sort of thing.
BoscVegas wrote…
Molecatcher wrote…
They don't test the notes (are they really put into the girls g-strings?) - they test the surfaces likely to provide somewhere to snort from.
(again I suspect not driectly from the girl's body as also portrayed a lot in US films).
Toilet cisterns in the main but also seats, wash basin stands / any shelves that sort of thing.
In my many years working in the security industry I have worked a lot of venues,you will always find traces of drugs wherever you go - any bar/club.. I believe this is one of the safest places to visit and the owners/management and security do a great job at controlling the venue at all times. The council should take a look at themselves and realise that the venue never has had any trouble unlike the clubs and bars
In my many years working in the security industry I have worked a lot of venues,you will always find traces of drugs wherever you go - any bar/club.. I believe this is one of the safest places to visit and the owners/management and security do a great job at controlling the venue at all times. The council should take a look at themselves and realise that the venue never has had any trouble unlike the clubs and bars
in truth so what ,it is a gentlemans club all be it a little more risque than the other town center venues offering the same style of entertainment,as long as sexual intercourse or acts are being performed between client and dancer what is the issue we are living in 2013 not 1830 ,as regards the drugs I assume all the other venues in Bournemouth are drugs free ithink not ,if the club is closed im sure the dancers and clients would move elsewhere
in truth so what ,it is a gentlemans club all be it a little more risque than the other town center venues offering the same style of entertainment,as long as sexual intercourse or acts are being performed between client and dancer what is the issue we are living in 2013 not 1830 ,as regards the drugs I assume all the other venues in Bournemouth are drugs free ithink not ,if the club is closed im sure the dancers and clients would move elsewhere
Sheldon Cooper wrote…
BoscVegas wrote…
Molecatcher wrote…
(again I suspect not driectly from the girl's body as also portrayed a lot in US films).
Toilet cisterns in the main but also seats, wash basin stands / any shelves that sort of thing.
If you want to snort cocaine of a lady I suspect you would have to hire an escort. this is likely to cost in excess of £100 an hour and you will probably have to supply your own cocaine.
I wasn't suggesting that the council did test any money at the club. the reference to cash money was give mssrs: Molecatcher an indication of the scale of cocaine contamination / usage in this country and that it may be impractical to expect venues to be 100% drug residue free.
Sheldon Cooper wrote…
BoscVegas wrote…
Molecatcher wrote…
(again I suspect not driectly from the girl's body as also portrayed a lot in US films).
Toilet cisterns in the main but also seats, wash basin stands / any shelves that sort of thing.
If you want to snort cocaine of a lady I suspect you would have to hire an escort. this is likely to cost in excess of £100 an hour and you will probably have to supply your own cocaine.
I wasn't suggesting that the council did test any money at the club. the reference to cash money was give mssrs: Molecatcher an indication of the scale of cocaine contamination / usage in this country and that it may be impractical to expect venues to be 100% drug residue free.
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
Sounds like you should pay a visit and let them loosen your anorak a bit
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
Sounds like you should pay a visit and let them loosen your anorak a bit
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
As your name suggests may I remind you we are living in 2013 not old colonial times,as stated earlier( will proof read this time) this club seems to be slightly more risqué than others of the same ilk in Bournemouth as long as full sex acts are NOT occurring between dancers and clients then what is the real issue ,everybody knows what happens in theses clubs and it is down to personal choice to frequent these venues I'm sure if miss Rogers inspected the other lap dancing venues in town her findings would be EXACTLY THE SAME !
Old Colonial wrote…
Why all the wisecracks. This place is clearly operating in contravention of its licence and planning agreement. Fine those responsible, and close it down.
As your name suggests may I remind you we are living in 2013 not old colonial times,as stated earlier( will proof read this time) this club seems to be slightly more risqué than others of the same ilk in Bournemouth as long as full sex acts are NOT occurring between dancers and clients then what is the real issue ,everybody knows what happens in theses clubs and it is down to personal choice to frequent these venues I'm sure if miss Rogers inspected the other lap dancing venues in town her findings would be EXACTLY THE SAME !
Lap dance,.....too close to customers ? Ermmmm? Surely the name says closeness.....
Lap dance,.....too close to customers ? Ermmmm? Surely the name says closeness.....
How do I get there? I feel it only right to go and check it out myself before being able to give an honest and imformed opinion here.
How do I get there? I feel it only right to go and check it out myself before being able to give an honest and imformed opinion here.
Such places are frequented by sad desperate men with more money than sense, pathetic.
Such places are frequented by sad desperate men with more money than sense, pathetic.
Contravened the licence agreements .... shut the place down!!!!!
Contravened the licence agreements .... shut the place down!!!!!
never mind mr carr, why didn't the echo cover the lady james story recently?
never mind mr carr, why didn't the echo cover the lady james story recently?
never mind mr carr, why didn't the echo cover the lady james story recently?
never mind mr carr, why didn't the echo cover the lady james story recently?
jinglebell wrote…
"Gentlemen's Clubs" - a euphemistic phrase for the encouragement of a reprehensible attitude toward women. How many owners of these places have their partner or daughter performing there?
And how many customers would be just as happy to have their partner or daughter performing, yet are quite happy to watch someone else's.
jinglebell wrote…
"Gentlemen's Clubs" - a euphemistic phrase for the encouragement of a reprehensible attitude toward women. How many owners of these places have their partner or daughter performing there?
And how many customers would be just as happy to have their partner or daughter performing, yet are quite happy to watch someone else's.
Cannot edit above so fresh post.. Changed the wording folks.
And how many customers would not be happy to have their partner or daughter performing, yet are quite happy to watch someone else's.
Cannot edit above so fresh post.. Changed the wording folks.
And how many customers would not be happy to have their partner or daughter performing, yet are quite happy to watch someone else's.