Police operator "not in control" of pursuit that led to Verwood teenager's death, investigation finds

Steve Brown died when his car crashed near Three Legged Cross Steve Brown died when his car crashed near Three Legged Cross

A DORSET police control room operator was “not in control” of a pursuit which ended in the tragic death of a Verwood teenager, a report has found.

Steve Brown, 18, suffered fatal injuries on December 18, 2011 after his Volkswagen Golf crashed on Horton Road near Three Legged Cross.

An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision.

Officers in a marked police car, who had tried to stop the purple vehicle, reached 95 mph during the early morning pursuit, which began almost four hours after reports that Mr Brown had driven away without paying for petrol in St Leonards. The car had a false number plate.

An 18-year-old Ferndown man, who was a passenger in the Golf and treated for minor injuries, provided evidence to the IPCC.

The investigation found that the pursuit had been carried out in accordance with police guidelines and that the officers’ decision to pursue the Golf after it failed to stop was “proportionate”.

But IPCC commissioner Naseem Malik said: “It was clear from audio recordings that the control room operator was not in control of this pursuit. This was mitigated by the actions of another operator who ensured that correct actions were carried out.

“We have identified that the control room operator had not been given proper training to manage police pursuits and so it is Dorset police who must take responsibility for those failings.”

A Dorset police spokesman said: “This was a tragic incident in which a young man lost his life and our thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficult time.

Dorset Police welcomes the IPCC’s report and can confirm that the operator involved has now received additional training. Steps have been put in place to ensure that new operators also receive this training.”

An inquest into Mr Brown’s death will be held on April 3.

Comments(52)

manana says...
9:01pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Dibbles2 wrote:
Failed to stop, false number plates and driving off without paying. He took the risk and payed the price at the end of the day he chose to drive that fast and he put other road users at great risk. How can blood be on the hands of the police? The police are damned if they do and damned if they dont!
Quite agree...he took the risk, broke the law and paid the ultimate price. No ones fault but his own.....

TGF96 says...
9:04pm Tue 12 Mar 13

It's sad but he is the only one to blame in this

Bournemouth2014 says...
9:18pm Tue 12 Mar 13

I echo the comments above, as sad as it is that he died he wasnt forced to do what he done and the police were simply doing thier job. If the headline was 'Police didnt pursue driver' then everyone would moan about that!

dvdr says...
10:19pm Tue 12 Mar 13

False number plates, taking on fuel and driving away without paying, travelling at 95 to 125mph when fleeing the police, and killing himself in the process (and could have killed someone else as well) and we are supposed to be sympathetic towards him, and it was the fault of the police? He got his reward, and we should be thankful that it was only this petty thief/crook who did so. What of the police putting themselves at risk trying to apprehend him? It is of course sad for his family, but he is the one who seemed to have brought his fate upon himself, not accidentally, and quite needlessly so. I or others entirely innocent might have got in his way while he was trying to escape being stopped for questioning, and then whose fault would it have been?

Good on the police for protecting us from him, sad for his family though the outcome turned out to be.

funkyferret says...
10:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Sadly, he paid the ultimate consequence for his own actions.
It's called 'Accountability'.
Regrettably, his family & friends are left to grieve a young life lost meaninglessly.
Let our thoughts be with them and the officers involved.

jayeff says...
10:51pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Sadly the young was in the wrong and paid the ultimate price for his actions,

The Warlock says...
11:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13

I agree with the majority of the comments. He wasn't forced to drive at a stupid speed, or not pay for the petrol. No one else to blame but himself...

Mascalll says...
12:58am Wed 13 Mar 13

What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.

Sadrojc says...
1:17am Wed 13 Mar 13

I think this is why the police seem to have little to no power any more, they keep getting the blame when things go wrong like this, they a afraid to do there job any more. It is sad for his friends and familey it ended like this but he broke the law (3 times), the police were doing what our taxs pay them to do.

retry69 says...
6:40am Wed 13 Mar 13

Up to 125mph in West Moors!!! No more needs to be said except a sad loss of a young life through sheer stupidity

DUCKFEEDER says...
6:45am Wed 13 Mar 13

the echo should make a public apology to the police for their headline, it's a tad misleading i believe

Birthdaycake says...
7:04am Wed 13 Mar 13

All he had to do was stop when asked too.

RivermeadMike says...
7:09am Wed 13 Mar 13

How could a control operator ever be in control of a police chase? Was the police car a drone being driven remotely?

I'm surprised the police weren't criticized because the driver perhaps didn't have his uniform buttoned up correctly or it wasn't clean enough!

The IPCC obviousy have the task to place the blame on the police and never on the criminal.

ragj195 says...
8:01am Wed 13 Mar 13

Mascalll wrote:
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
Totally agree. Take away the word "that" in the headline and it directs blame at the police. If people read the facts in the article the IPCC are not suggesting that the training had any influence on the outcome of pursuit. I hope the people on this thread that are too dumb to notice this never need the help of the police.

catfan says...
8:09am Wed 13 Mar 13

Mascalll wrote:
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
I agree. The headline was very misleading.
Horton Road (for those not familiar with it) is a narrow winding road with established tress along it and unlit.
To travel at over 50 mph is dangerous - and at the speeds quoted - madness.
No-one wants loss of life - but sometimes the individual puts themselves at risk and pays the price.

catfan says...
8:09am Wed 13 Mar 13

Mascalll wrote:
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
I agree. The headline was very misleading.
Horton Road (for those not familiar with it) is a narrow winding road with established tress along it and unlit.
To travel at over 50 mph is dangerous - and at the speeds quoted - madness.
No-one wants loss of life - but sometimes the individual puts themselves at risk and pays the price.

jill M says...
8:46am Wed 13 Mar 13

Apart from a couple of ridiculous comments on here, it's so nice to see that posters on here can ignore the misleading headline, and realise that the police do an ever increasingly difficult job, with ever decreasing numbers, fewer and fewer police on the streets to protect us, people need to wake up to the fact that soon, there simply won t be enough police to protect us.I feel sympathy for the family of the young man who died, but as said previously, he chose to do what he did, and put other people s lives at risk by his actions.

muscliffman says...
8:50am Wed 13 Mar 13

An irresponsible and misleading headline, in very downmarket tabloid fashion if I may say, shame on you Echo.

This young man was the only person responsible for the crimes and choices which led to his death, this is evident in the detail. That he killed no one else in the process is something to be thankful for.

The Police were doing the job we expect them to do, the car driver was intentionally breaking several of our laws. Do we really want them to stand back and just let criminals get on with it?

portia6 says...
9:42am Wed 13 Mar 13

Sad and the young man only 18, it just
illustrates the facts the young take
risks and always will. You can't blame
the police entirely in this case.

The irate commuter says...
9:49am Wed 13 Mar 13

portia6 wrote:
Sad and the young man only 18, it just illustrates the facts the young take risks and always will. You can't blame the police entirely in this case.
You cant blame the Police AT ALL in this case !!

arti273 says...
10:51am Wed 13 Mar 13

This is Darwin's Theory of Evolution at it's best.

It's a shame that the IPCC can't dismiss such cases and save the taxpayer money and more importantly save prolonging the grief of the family and anguish for the police officers.

TinyLegacy says...
10:55am Wed 13 Mar 13

IPCC looking for scapegoats again. Well done, hope you're proud.

ragj195 says...
11:01am Wed 13 Mar 13

Seems like they just spotted something regarding the training of the operator that was addressed at the time and highlighted in their report. It's the Echo that has added the headline to give the impressions this was somehow partly to blame for the death. Disgusting journalism in my opinion.

Birthdaycake says...
11:08am Wed 13 Mar 13

This individual made his own choices

To fit false number plates,
To take petrol without paying,
To fail to stop when the police instructed,
To Travel at 125mph.

And as such HE is totally responsible

Sad that a life was lost but you pay your money (or not in this case) and you take your chance.

grazzer says...
11:11am Wed 13 Mar 13

i agree that the young driver was the author of his own fate and appreciate that the police do a good job under difficult circumstances, However, l honestly believe that these high speed pursuits should be banned. as these often end in tragedy and quite often involve an innocent victim.

Cosmic Crusader says...
11:18am Wed 13 Mar 13

I feel exceedingly sorry for the Police Operator in this case. Just because there was something amiss with their training in "political correctness" he/she is now subject to the suggestion that they are to blame for the outcome of this incident. Shame on all concerned.

dannyboy01 says...
11:29am Wed 13 Mar 13

grazzer wrote:
i agree that the young driver was the author of his own fate and appreciate that the police do a good job under difficult circumstances, However, l honestly believe that these high speed pursuits should be banned. as these often end in tragedy and quite often involve an innocent victim.
I have a relative in a neighbouring county who is response and pursuit trained he said a quote to me many years ago when i was learning to drive and it has stuck with me ever since "IT IS NOT HOW FAST YOU DRIVE, ITS HOW YOU DRIVE FAST" pursuit/response trained drivers spend everyday for 4-6 weeks learning how to drive at high speed and what to look out for on the roads and road positioning of the car, to cull police pursuit/response driving is a rediculous comment and is just giving the bad guys an excuse to put the middle finger up and say "hahaha" you cant chase me if i just drive like a tool. thoughts are with the young lads family but as comments say above unfortunately on that day the young lad chose the wrong option and paid the ultimate price.

rayc says...
11:38am Wed 13 Mar 13

I believe this death was included in the Dorset fatal collision statistics.
These statistics are used to justify the Dorset Roadsafe operations and further enforcement measures such as the No Excuse Campaign.
How can the Police and ordinary motorists be blamed for the behavior of totally irresponsible drivers like Mr Brown?

IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE says...
11:47am Wed 13 Mar 13

According to the BBC news website: 'The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has cleared two Dorset officers over the death of a man in a police pursuit.'

Hammy1 says...
12:23pm Wed 13 Mar 13

No sympathy what so ever he made the choice of driving like he did he only had himself to blame. The Police should no way be to blame. We have to thank god that the idiot didn't take some innocent life and only his own.

scrumpyjack says...
1:02pm Wed 13 Mar 13

grazzer wrote:
i agree that the young driver was the author of his own fate and appreciate that the police do a good job under difficult circumstances, However, l honestly believe that these high speed pursuits should be banned. as these often end in tragedy and quite often involve an innocent victim.
So ALL criminals should be allowed to simply drive away?

Just take a car with you and you'll be laughing?

"quite often involve an innocent victim'

Really? Bearing in mind how many chases there must be every day I would argue against this. Have you got anything to substantiate this claim?

suzigirl says...
4:43pm Wed 13 Mar 13

My thoughts are with the lad's family who will have to live with this for the rest of their lives!

Cosmic Crusader says...
5:49pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Having now read the IPCC report (http://www.ipcc.gov
.uk/Documents/invest
igation_commissioner
_reports/Steven_Brow
n_final_report.pdf) I am amazed that the police manage to carry out their duties given the amount of bureaucracy they have to comply with.

BTOWNDUDE says...
8:58pm Wed 13 Mar 13

When will people take responsibility for their own actions and stop passing the blame. I am in full support of the officers involved and am grateful there are people who are willing to risk their own lives to protect us from this kind of stupidity. Of course it is sad for the family but the blame should not belong to the police.

H2o-hara says...
1:34pm Thu 14 Mar 13

jayeff wrote:
Sadly the young was in the wrong and paid the ultimate price for his actions,
He obviously didn't care too much for his passenger neither .

debs6955 says...
5:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13

For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!

ragj195 says...
5:20pm Thu 14 Mar 13

debs6955 wrote:
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
That "mistake" could have easily killed someone. I agree with you about some of the comments on here though as you are a parent I'm not so sure you would feel the same were it your child they hit had they lost control at 125mph!

DaniellaLeigh93 says...
5:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13

RESPECT! maybe people of bournemouth should learn it, reading some of these comments have really upset me! steve was a very close freind of mine and he wouldnt of intentionally set out to hurt ANYONE! EVERYONE makes mistakes right?!!?!

debs6955 says...
5:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13

i know i agree what he did was wrong totally , and the police are not entirely to blame i agree with that too what im saying is people should have some respect for his family instead of slating him on here everyone knows he did wrong people need to have a little respect his family feel bad enough having lost him my daughter was meant to be out with them that night as he was my daughters friend i thank god she wasnt in the car he was on his way to pick her up !!! but i also know the hurt his family are going through knowing his mistake has taken his life and yes could of taken others lives , but there is no need for such nasty comments about the lad for god sake !!!

retry69 says...
5:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13

debs6955 wrote:
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
There are mistakes and there is sheer stupidity you need to realise the difference

sashaaa1234 says...
5:28pm Thu 14 Mar 13

If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you

ragj195 says...
5:29pm Thu 14 Mar 13

debs6955 wrote:
i know i agree what he did was wrong totally , and the police are not entirely to blame i agree with that too what im saying is people should have some respect for his family instead of slating him on here everyone knows he did wrong people need to have a little respect his family feel bad enough having lost him my daughter was meant to be out with them that night as he was my daughters friend i thank god she wasnt in the car he was on his way to pick her up !!! but i also know the hurt his family are going through knowing his mistake has taken his life and yes could of taken others lives , but there is no need for such nasty comments about the lad for god sake !!!
"the police are not entirely to blame".

Correction, the police are not to blame at all.

With regards to the comments, welcome to the internet.

DaniellaLeigh93 says...
5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13

sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!

debs6955 says...
5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13

sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx

nosuchluck54 says...
5:33pm Thu 14 Mar 13

DaniellaLeigh93 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!
Theres more ?????????

ragj195 says...
5:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13

debs6955 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx
As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.

"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "

DaniellaLeigh93 says...
5:38pm Thu 14 Mar 13

nosuchluck54 wrote:
DaniellaLeigh93 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!
Theres more ?????????
See, why do YOU need to no the inns and outs of everything? none of it concerns you or do you need to know about it! So leave these comments and leave one of my close freinds rest in peace, thanks

sashaaa1234 says...
5:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13

ragj195 wrote:
debs6955 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx
As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.

"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.

ragj195 says...
5:50pm Thu 14 Mar 13

sashaaa1234 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
debs6955 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx
As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.

"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.

sashaaa1234 says...
5:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13

ragj195 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
debs6955 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx
As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.

"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.
Like i said before. you shouldn't believe everything you read. If you didn't hear it with your own ears or see it with your own eyes, never assume things.

ragj195 says...
6:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13

sashaaa1234 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
debs6955 wrote:
sashaaa1234 wrote:
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
well said love xx
As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.

"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.
Like i said before. you shouldn't believe everything you read. If you didn't hear it with your own ears or see it with your own eyes, never assume things.
Okay, but most people, myself included will assume that an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) will state the facts in terms of how fast he was driving. The fact that he was traveling this fast down a road that could easily have had pedestrians on (as there is no footpath) or cyclists, has contributed to the tone of some of these posts. Surely you can understand that?

NicolaSBBrown says...
6:12pm Mon 25 Mar 13

debs6955 wrote:
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
Steve is my brother and i agree these comments are disgusting I can believe people would say what they have said leave my big brother to rest in peace.

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