Police operator "not in control" of pursuit that led to Verwood teenager's death, investigation finds (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Police operator "not in control" of pursuit that led to Verwood teenager's death, investigation finds
4:10am Wednesday 13th March 2013 in News By Julie Magee
Steve Brown died when his car crashed near Three Legged Cross
A DORSET police control room operator was “not in control” of a pursuit which ended in the tragic death of a Verwood teenager, a report has found.
Steve Brown, 18, suffered fatal injuries on December 18, 2011 after his Volkswagen Golf crashed on Horton Road near Three Legged Cross.
An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision.
Officers in a marked police car, who had tried to stop the purple vehicle, reached 95 mph during the early morning pursuit, which began almost four hours after reports that Mr Brown had driven away without paying for petrol in St Leonards. The car had a false number plate.
An 18-year-old Ferndown man, who was a passenger in the Golf and treated for minor injuries, provided evidence to the IPCC.
The investigation found that the pursuit had been carried out in accordance with police guidelines and that the officers’ decision to pursue the Golf after it failed to stop was “proportionate”.
But IPCC commissioner Naseem Malik said: “It was clear from audio recordings that the control room operator was not in control of this pursuit. This was mitigated by the actions of another operator who ensured that correct actions were carried out.
“We have identified that the control room operator had not been given proper training to manage police pursuits and so it is Dorset police who must take responsibility for those failings.”
A Dorset police spokesman said: “This was a tragic incident in which a young man lost his life and our thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficult time.
“Dorset Police welcomes the IPCC’s report and can confirm that the operator involved has now received additional training. Steps have been put in place to ensure that new operators also receive this training.”
An inquest into Mr Brown’s death will be held on April 3.
Comments(52)
TGF96
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9:04pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Bournemouth2014
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9:18pm Tue 12 Mar 13
dvdr
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10:19pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Good on the police for protecting us from him, sad for his family though the outcome turned out to be.
funkyferret
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10:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13
It's called 'Accountability'.
Regrettably, his family & friends are left to grieve a young life lost meaninglessly.
Let our thoughts be with them and the officers involved.
jayeff
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10:51pm Tue 12 Mar 13
The Warlock
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11:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Mascalll
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12:58am Wed 13 Mar 13
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
Sadrojc
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1:17am Wed 13 Mar 13
retry69
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6:40am Wed 13 Mar 13
DUCKFEEDER
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6:45am Wed 13 Mar 13
Birthdaycake
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7:04am Wed 13 Mar 13
RivermeadMike
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7:09am Wed 13 Mar 13
I'm surprised the police weren't criticized because the driver perhaps didn't have his uniform buttoned up correctly or it wasn't clean enough!
The IPCC obviousy have the task to place the blame on the police and never on the criminal.
ragj195
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8:01am Wed 13 Mar 13
Mascalll wrote:Totally agree. Take away the word "that" in the headline and it directs blame at the police. If people read the facts in the article the IPCC are not suggesting that the training had any influence on the outcome of pursuit. I hope the people on this thread that are too dumb to notice this never need the help of the police.
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
catfan
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8:09am Wed 13 Mar 13
Mascalll wrote:I agree. The headline was very misleading.
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
Horton Road (for those not familiar with it) is a narrow winding road with established tress along it and unlit.
To travel at over 50 mph is dangerous - and at the speeds quoted - madness.
No-one wants loss of life - but sometimes the individual puts themselves at risk and pays the price.
catfan
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8:09am Wed 13 Mar 13
Mascalll wrote:I agree. The headline was very misleading.
What a misleading headline!
Headlines like this are what lead to comments like police have blood on their hands. At a glance this headline reads as if the police officers involved in the pursuit caused this poor boys death and not that the series of events and the decisions he made leading up to his tragic end were the cause. Shame on you Bournemouth Echo did you not consider the feelings of family, friends and officers involved when they read this headline.
Horton Road (for those not familiar with it) is a narrow winding road with established tress along it and unlit.
To travel at over 50 mph is dangerous - and at the speeds quoted - madness.
No-one wants loss of life - but sometimes the individual puts themselves at risk and pays the price.
jill M
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8:46am Wed 13 Mar 13
muscliffman
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8:50am Wed 13 Mar 13
This young man was the only person responsible for the crimes and choices which led to his death, this is evident in the detail. That he killed no one else in the process is something to be thankful for.
The Police were doing the job we expect them to do, the car driver was intentionally breaking several of our laws. Do we really want them to stand back and just let criminals get on with it?
portia6
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9:42am Wed 13 Mar 13
illustrates the facts the young take
risks and always will. You can't blame
the police entirely in this case.
The irate commuter
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9:49am Wed 13 Mar 13
portia6 wrote:You cant blame the Police AT ALL in this case !!
Sad and the young man only 18, it just illustrates the facts the young take risks and always will. You can't blame the police entirely in this case.
arti273
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10:51am Wed 13 Mar 13
It's a shame that the IPCC can't dismiss such cases and save the taxpayer money and more importantly save prolonging the grief of the family and anguish for the police officers.
TinyLegacy
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10:55am Wed 13 Mar 13
ragj195
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11:01am Wed 13 Mar 13
Birthdaycake
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11:08am Wed 13 Mar 13
To fit false number plates,
To take petrol without paying,
To fail to stop when the police instructed,
To Travel at 125mph.
And as such HE is totally responsible
Sad that a life was lost but you pay your money (or not in this case) and you take your chance.
grazzer
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11:11am Wed 13 Mar 13
Cosmic Crusader
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11:18am Wed 13 Mar 13
dannyboy01
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11:29am Wed 13 Mar 13
grazzer wrote:I have a relative in a neighbouring county who is response and pursuit trained he said a quote to me many years ago when i was learning to drive and it has stuck with me ever since "IT IS NOT HOW FAST YOU DRIVE, ITS HOW YOU DRIVE FAST" pursuit/response trained drivers spend everyday for 4-6 weeks learning how to drive at high speed and what to look out for on the roads and road positioning of the car, to cull police pursuit/response driving is a rediculous comment and is just giving the bad guys an excuse to put the middle finger up and say "hahaha" you cant chase me if i just drive like a tool. thoughts are with the young lads family but as comments say above unfortunately on that day the young lad chose the wrong option and paid the ultimate price.
i agree that the young driver was the author of his own fate and appreciate that the police do a good job under difficult circumstances, However, l honestly believe that these high speed pursuits should be banned. as these often end in tragedy and quite often involve an innocent victim.
rayc
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11:38am Wed 13 Mar 13
These statistics are used to justify the Dorset Roadsafe operations and further enforcement measures such as the No Excuse Campaign.
How can the Police and ordinary motorists be blamed for the behavior of totally irresponsible drivers like Mr Brown?
IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE
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11:47am Wed 13 Mar 13
Hammy1
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12:23pm Wed 13 Mar 13
scrumpyjack
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1:02pm Wed 13 Mar 13
grazzer wrote:So ALL criminals should be allowed to simply drive away?
i agree that the young driver was the author of his own fate and appreciate that the police do a good job under difficult circumstances, However, l honestly believe that these high speed pursuits should be banned. as these often end in tragedy and quite often involve an innocent victim.
Just take a car with you and you'll be laughing?
"quite often involve an innocent victim'
Really? Bearing in mind how many chases there must be every day I would argue against this. Have you got anything to substantiate this claim?
suzigirl
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4:43pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Cosmic Crusader
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5:49pm Wed 13 Mar 13
.uk/Documents/invest
igation_commissioner
_reports/Steven_Brow
n_final_report.pdf) I am amazed that the police manage to carry out their duties given the amount of bureaucracy they have to comply with.
BTOWNDUDE
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8:58pm Wed 13 Mar 13
H2o-hara
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1:34pm Thu 14 Mar 13
jayeff wrote:He obviously didn't care too much for his passenger neither .
Sadly the young was in the wrong and paid the ultimate price for his actions,
debs6955
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5:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
ragj195
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5:20pm Thu 14 Mar 13
debs6955 wrote:That "mistake" could have easily killed someone. I agree with you about some of the comments on here though as you are a parent I'm not so sure you would feel the same were it your child they hit had they lost control at 125mph!
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
DaniellaLeigh93
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5:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13
debs6955
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5:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13
retry69
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5:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13
debs6955 wrote:There are mistakes and there is sheer stupidity you need to realise the difference
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
sashaaa1234
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5:28pm Thu 14 Mar 13
RIP Steve missing you
ragj195
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5:29pm Thu 14 Mar 13
debs6955 wrote:"the police are not entirely to blame".
i know i agree what he did was wrong totally , and the police are not entirely to blame i agree with that too what im saying is people should have some respect for his family instead of slating him on here everyone knows he did wrong people need to have a little respect his family feel bad enough having lost him my daughter was meant to be out with them that night as he was my daughters friend i thank god she wasnt in the car he was on his way to pick her up !!! but i also know the hurt his family are going through knowing his mistake has taken his life and yes could of taken others lives , but there is no need for such nasty comments about the lad for god sake !!!
Correction, the police are not to blame at all.
With regards to the comments, welcome to the internet.
DaniellaLeigh93
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5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sashaaa1234 wrote:Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
debs6955
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5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
nosuchluck54
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5:33pm Thu 14 Mar 13
DaniellaLeigh93 wrote:Theres more ?????????
sashaaa1234 wrote:Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
ragj195
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5:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13
debs6955 wrote:As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
DaniellaLeigh93
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5:38pm Thu 14 Mar 13
nosuchluck54 wrote:See, why do YOU need to no the inns and outs of everything? none of it concerns you or do you need to know about it! So leave these comments and leave one of my close freinds rest in peace, thanks
DaniellaLeigh93 wrote:Theres more ?????????
sashaaa1234 wrote:Completley agree, people do NOT no the full story and they make me sick!
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
sashaaa1234
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5:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13
ragj195 wrote:Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
debs6955 wrote:As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
ragj195
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5:50pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sashaaa1234 wrote:If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.
ragj195 wrote:Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
debs6955 wrote:As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
sashaaa1234
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5:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13
ragj195 wrote:Like i said before. you shouldn't believe everything you read. If you didn't hear it with your own ears or see it with your own eyes, never assume things.
sashaaa1234 wrote:If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.
ragj195 wrote:Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
debs6955 wrote:As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
ragj195
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6:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13
sashaaa1234 wrote:Okay, but most people, myself included will assume that an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) will state the facts in terms of how fast he was driving. The fact that he was traveling this fast down a road that could easily have had pedestrians on (as there is no footpath) or cyclists, has contributed to the tone of some of these posts. Surely you can understand that?
ragj195 wrote:Like i said before. you shouldn't believe everything you read. If you didn't hear it with your own ears or see it with your own eyes, never assume things.
sashaaa1234 wrote:If you knew him I would suggest you don't read the comments. It's the internet which means there will always be these types of comments where people will, whether you like it or not, give their honest and sometimes nasty opinion based on what they have read. It's a public forum and they're entitled to their opinion as are you.
ragj195 wrote:Yes everyone has a right to have there own opinion, I can agree with that, But some of the comment are not needed. Yes he was speeding, yes he didn't stop, Dont you think we know that? I am a very good friend to steve knew him well, He made a mistake and lost his life, Dont you think that his family and friends just want to keep his memories and keep him in our hearts with out comments that are not need, the rude remarks? If you knew the full story and not just what you read then maybe you would know but you dont.
debs6955 wrote:As awful as the events that took place were this is an article in a local paper. When people read a police report that states the FACTS below they are entitled to leave an opinion whether they knew him or not.
sashaaa1234 wrote:well said love xx
If any of you knew him, then please comment, but you don't. Everyone makes mistakes some big and some little, you learn from them, well he couldn't.. His life got taken away, No one should ever have this happen to them. You should never believe everything that you read, if you saw it for your self and heard it with your own ears then carry on but you didn't, so stop being so judgmental...
RIP Steve missing you
"An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has revealed that the Golf had been travelling at up to 125 mph on West Moors Road before the collision. "
NicolaSBBrown
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6:12pm Mon 25 Mar 13
debs6955 wrote:Steve is my brother and i agree these comments are disgusting I can believe people would say what they have said leave my big brother to rest in peace.
For one im totally disgusted with half of your comments , we all know he did wrong by his actions for not paying for petrol and driving at a high speed and yes he could of killed someone else !!!
but have a bit of respect the lad has died , his family have lost a son and a brother , did you not make mistakes when you were younger i know i did and i know my children have made lots of mistakes also , lets hope YOUR KIDS dont make the same mistake and if you were reading these comments about your child how hurt you would be?? have a bit of respect for his family you bunch of morons !!!!
kids make mistakes hes paid the price!!!
manana says...
9:01pm Tue 12 Mar 13