We'll find Jade car: hundreds of scooterists join search after fatal A31 crash

Bournemouth Echo: Some of the scooter riders who will be taking part in the search Some of the scooter riders who will be taking part in the search

HUNDREDS of scooter riders from across Dorset and Hampshire have joined in the hunt for a driver involved in the crash which killed teenager Jade Clark.

A silver Volvo XC90 failed to stop after the 16-year-old suffered fatal injuries on the A31 near Ashley Heath roundabout.

Jade was riding her red scooter when she was struck by several vehicles between the Verwood on-slip road and the A338 off-slip road on Sunday evening.

Touched by the tragedy, scooter enthusiasts are now helping in the search for the Volvo driver. Father-of-three Colin McDonald, who helps run the Newtown Cons scooter club in Poole, said: “We want to show our support. Any of our children, or grandchildren, could have been involved in that crash.

“A picture of a car similar to the one involved has been posted on our Facebook page and hundreds of scooter riders are now helping police to track down the driver. As well as helping in the search, we are planning to turn out in force at a memorial event for Jade in Ringwood on Saturday, March 9.

“It will be a show of strength, involving hundreds of riders, from clubs all over Dorset and Southampton. As well as Newtown Cons, riders from the Ringwood and Moordown scooter clubs will be turning out and members of the Dorset-based Modrapheniacs.”

Colin told the Daily Echo: “As well as showing our respects we will be donating to a collection for Jade’s family. The response has been phenomenal.”

Colin, 50, from Turbary Park Avenue, Bournemouth, said: “We think this is a really dangerous stretch of road and want the speed limit reduced. Sixteen-year-olds on a busy dual carriageway don’t stand a chance on a 50cc scooter which can’t do more than 30 mph.

“They haven’t got the power to accelerate away and get themselves out of trouble, if they see a car coming towards them. It’s the same as travelling on a pedal cycle on a dual carriageway. I ride a 125cc scooter which can do around 70mph to 80 mph; the smaller ones are gutless.

“The slightest gust of wind can knock you off and into the path of a car. It’s so sad that a 16-year-old, with her whole life ahead of her, has gone.”

Appealing for help to track down the Volvo driver, Colin added: “How on earth can you hit a young girl on a scooter without realising what you have done? Leaving her there is so callous; it beggars belief.”

Jade’s sister Corrina Louise Clark has described her as “an amazing, sister, amazing daughter and an amazing aunty.”

Referring to touching Facebook tributes, in Jade’s memory; she posted: “It’s hard reading the comments but just wanted people to know that we appreciate all their support; it is really nice seeing how much Jade was loved.

“It doesn’t seem real, expecting her to walk through the door. Everyone is being supportive. Just wanna say thanks; it really means a lot. By the looks of it she really did touch a lot of hearts xx”

Jade’s former teacher Rachel Haward said: “Such a tragic loss of a precious life. My heart goes out to all her family, friends and everyone involved. May precious happy memories help you heal.”

Nicky Sherwood-Matthews posted: “We knew Jade as a little girl; unable to put into words the sadness felt. I hope you are being looked after by the angels x”

The Coroner has been informed and a post mortem is due to be held this morning.

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8:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

Bournemouth2014 says...

The driver should contact the police asap. Dont know how anyone could do that, drive off and read the news about this and still stay silent. They will catch you, CCTV is all over the place and its only a matte of time.
The driver should contact the police asap. Dont know how anyone could do that, drive off and read the news about this and still stay silent. They will catch you, CCTV is all over the place and its only a matte of time. Bournemouth2014

8:03am Fri 1 Mar 13

retry69 says...

Well done people.Good luck and safe motoring
Well done people.Good luck and safe motoring retry69

8:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

BournemouthMum says...

Maybe the driver didn't realise how serious it was before driving off, maybe they panicked and they're terrified of coming forward now in case they're blamed etc.

Whatever the reason, they should do the right thing and talk to the police and consider how they'd feel if it was a member of their own family. It's very cowardly of them not to.
Maybe the driver didn't realise how serious it was before driving off, maybe they panicked and they're terrified of coming forward now in case they're blamed etc. Whatever the reason, they should do the right thing and talk to the police and consider how they'd feel if it was a member of their own family. It's very cowardly of them not to. BournemouthMum

8:50am Fri 1 Mar 13

Upkeep says...

Volvo driver, hand yourself in !
Volvo driver, hand yourself in ! Upkeep

9:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

lelbel says...

aww poor girl RIP,how someone can do that is beyond belief to me,you will have to live with this for the rest of your life
aww poor girl RIP,how someone can do that is beyond belief to me,you will have to live with this for the rest of your life lelbel

9:28am Fri 1 Mar 13

Dont drop litter says...

Ian_Steel wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road!
I totally agree although please do NOT tarnish all of us Harley Riders. Some who have scooters belong to the group of people who you are thinking of.

I dread to think what would happen if they found who they thought was the driver and got instead someone who is innocent.

I understand the logic behind what the scooterists are trying to do but lynch mob mentality is not the way to go about it.

The Volvo driver should hand himself in before someone gets seriously hurt for no reason.
You're right to suggest that a lynch mob mentality is wrong and I hope that isn't the intention. The internet has become a powerful tool and with the aid of social media the search can spread quickly.
I for one don't mind who is looking out for the car - there is nothing wrong with a bit of public vigilance and awareness - but inform the Police.
[quote][p][bold]Ian_Steel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road![/p][/quote]I totally agree although please do NOT tarnish all of us Harley Riders. Some who have scooters belong to the group of people who you are thinking of. I dread to think what would happen if they found who they thought was the driver and got instead someone who is innocent. I understand the logic behind what the scooterists are trying to do but lynch mob mentality is not the way to go about it. The Volvo driver should hand himself in before someone gets seriously hurt for no reason.[/p][/quote]You're right to suggest that a lynch mob mentality is wrong and I hope that isn't the intention. The internet has become a powerful tool and with the aid of social media the search can spread quickly. I for one don't mind who is looking out for the car - there is nothing wrong with a bit of public vigilance and awareness - but inform the Police. Dont drop litter

9:43am Fri 1 Mar 13

victim123 says...

This is so sad - I had a moped when I was 16 and came off at least twice and they are just not that safe wherever they are. However, there is no law preventing a moped from being on a dual carriageway.

With regards to the scooter riders helping find the car - there is a much better solution. The DVLA have accurate details of all grey Volvo XC90s in the area - all the police have to do is go to visit each one. There must only be a handful in the catchment area of each police station, so it wouldn't take much for the police to do their job themselves.
This is so sad - I had a moped when I was 16 and came off at least twice and they are just not that safe wherever they are. However, there is no law preventing a moped from being on a dual carriageway. With regards to the scooter riders helping find the car - there is a much better solution. The DVLA have accurate details of all grey Volvo XC90s in the area - all the police have to do is go to visit each one. There must only be a handful in the catchment area of each police station, so it wouldn't take much for the police to do their job themselves. victim123

9:47am Fri 1 Mar 13

Niki1 says...

Upkeep wrote:
Volvo driver, hand yourself in !
Might be an idea for the details of this accident and the car involved to be put on the national news and not just local news as this car may not have been driven by someone who lives in the Meridian region. I hope the driver can live with his/her self if they don't hand themselves in!!!
[quote][p][bold]Upkeep[/bold] wrote: Volvo driver, hand yourself in ![/p][/quote]Might be an idea for the details of this accident and the car involved to be put on the national news and not just local news as this car may not have been driven by someone who lives in the Meridian region. I hope the driver can live with his/her self if they don't hand themselves in!!! Niki1

10:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

rozmister says...

suzigirl wrote:
Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road!
Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished.

The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice.

As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road![/p][/quote]Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there. rozmister

10:18am Fri 1 Mar 13

Hessenford says...

Good luck to all of you in your efforts, there's no need to drive of after an accident especially one with such tragic consequences.
Good luck to all of you in your efforts, there's no need to drive of after an accident especially one with such tragic consequences. Hessenford

10:52am Fri 1 Mar 13

allmy life says...

If the Volvo driver was not involved why did it drive off and why has this person not contacted the police as a witness.
If the Volvo driver was not involved why did it drive off and why has this person not contacted the police as a witness. allmy life

10:54am Fri 1 Mar 13

saynomore says...

Everbody seems to think the the Volvo is a local one,it could have been going to anywhere in the country and from anywhere, unless someone got the registration number it will be a problem tracking it sadly.
Everbody seems to think the the Volvo is a local one,it could have been going to anywhere in the country and from anywhere, unless someone got the registration number it will be a problem tracking it sadly. saynomore

11:34am Fri 1 Mar 13

Cherry19 says...

Whilst we don't appreciate all the circumstances, I do wonder why the Police took so long to announce that they were looking for this car ... by this time it could have been repaired and/or hundreds of miles away ... people are right, we need to have this mentioned on the national news.

...and I agree, we all need to share the roads, there is too much traffic about these days to take an arrogant stance and stand your ground ... just one second can change someone's life forever... if anything comes from this tragedy, let us hope it will be more consideration , tolerance & understanding. RIP
Whilst we don't appreciate all the circumstances, I do wonder why the Police took so long to announce that they were looking for this car ... by this time it could have been repaired and/or hundreds of miles away ... people are right, we need to have this mentioned on the national news. ...and I agree, we all need to share the roads, there is too much traffic about these days to take an arrogant stance and stand your ground ... just one second can change someone's life forever... if anything comes from this tragedy, let us hope it will be more consideration , tolerance & understanding. RIP Cherry19

12:12pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Sir Alan says...

Last march I was hit from behind on the same stretch of road by a vehicle driven by and old man who obviously was to infirm to drive safely.
he drove off without seeing if I was ok and when I reported it to the police , they did nothing , so I have little faith in hampshire police traffic unit, they are a bad joke and not to be trusted.
Last march I was hit from behind on the same stretch of road by a vehicle driven by and old man who obviously was to infirm to drive safely. he drove off without seeing if I was ok and when I reported it to the police , they did nothing , so I have little faith in hampshire police traffic unit, they are a bad joke and not to be trusted. Sir Alan

12:13pm Fri 1 Mar 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

rozmister wrote:
suzigirl wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road!
Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.
You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road![/p][/quote]Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.[/p][/quote]You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea. HRH of Boscombe

12:23pm Fri 1 Mar 13

suzigirl says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
rozmister wrote:
suzigirl wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road!
Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.
You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea.
Exactly - I am not disputing that she had a right to be there but as a sports bike rider with 6 years experience I would not ride a moped on that stretch of road - it is too dangerous and a moped does not have the power to get out of trouble!
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road![/p][/quote]Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.[/p][/quote]You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea.[/p][/quote]Exactly - I am not disputing that she had a right to be there but as a sports bike rider with 6 years experience I would not ride a moped on that stretch of road - it is too dangerous and a moped does not have the power to get out of trouble! suzigirl

12:37pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Hammy1 says...

Some one knows who this driver is so if the car driver is too much of a coward to hand themselves in then the people who know them should. I know I would not hesitate to report some one I knew in this situation even if it was a family member who was responsible. Hope they catch them and quick. R.I.P Jade xx
Some one knows who this driver is so if the car driver is too much of a coward to hand themselves in then the people who know them should. I know I would not hesitate to report some one I knew in this situation even if it was a family member who was responsible. Hope they catch them and quick. R.I.P Jade xx Hammy1

12:59pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Piston_Broke says...

Sir Alan wrote:
Last march I was hit from behind on the same stretch of road by a vehicle driven by and old man who obviously was to infirm to drive safely.
he drove off without seeing if I was ok and when I reported it to the police , they did nothing , so I have little faith in hampshire police traffic unit, they are a bad joke and not to be trusted.
Let's hope Dorset Police do better then, seeing as this tragic accident occured in their manor.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Alan[/bold] wrote: Last march I was hit from behind on the same stretch of road by a vehicle driven by and old man who obviously was to infirm to drive safely. he drove off without seeing if I was ok and when I reported it to the police , they did nothing , so I have little faith in hampshire police traffic unit, they are a bad joke and not to be trusted.[/p][/quote]Let's hope Dorset Police do better then, seeing as this tragic accident occured in their manor. Piston_Broke

1:10pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Pablo23 says...

Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy.
And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job.
Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy. And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job. Pablo23

1:41pm Fri 1 Mar 13

rozmister says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
rozmister wrote:
suzigirl wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road!
Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.
You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea.
If road users were considerate of cyclists and didn't drive like idiots it would be such a stupid idea. The same way that if they were careful of people on little mopeds instead of thinking they own the road it would be much safer to ride one on the dual carriageway.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: Something slightly disturbing about that picture whatever good intent is meant. At least the Harley riders (aka tractors or gulley suckers) have not got involved........ Best let the Police get on and do their job - as I said before I would not ride a 50cc moped on that road![/p][/quote]Oh yeh it's such a disturbing thought all these older perfectly normal looking people looking out for a car that was involved in an RTA that led to a young girl's death. I don't think they're out to lynch him they'll probably call the police because as scooter riders they, more than anyone, want to see people who drive dangerously and put scooter riders at risk punished. The more eyes out looking for this car the better and I think the sentiment of what they're doing is nice. As for the comments about why she was riding on that road she has every right to be there. Drivers needs to SHARE the road with other users such as scooter riders, motorcyclists, actual cyclists and pedestrians where the Highway Code dictates. It might have been the quickest route to where she was going and she had every right to be there.[/p][/quote]You can cycle on a dual carraigeway too but it doesn't make it a bright idea.[/p][/quote]If road users were considerate of cyclists and didn't drive like idiots it would be such a stupid idea. The same way that if they were careful of people on little mopeds instead of thinking they own the road it would be much safer to ride one on the dual carriageway. rozmister

2:18pm Fri 1 Mar 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

No you just prove common sense isn't that common. It's a stupid idea to use a road when the majority of the traffic is travelling twice your max speed. Lunacy is the best word I can think of for it.
No you just prove common sense isn't that common. It's a stupid idea to use a road when the majority of the traffic is travelling twice your max speed. Lunacy is the best word I can think of for it. HRH of Boscombe

3:03pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Old Harry says...

"A silver Volvo XC90 failed to stop after the 16-year-old suffered fatal injuries on the A31 near Ashley Heath roundabout."

"Traffic Inspector Matt Butler said: “We know from our investigation so far that a number of vehicles were involved in the incident and one of these vehicles – a Volvo XC90 – left the scene before police arrived."

On the assumption that the police are correct in their comment, the Echo must be guilty of making an inflamatory statement in this report.
"A silver Volvo XC90 failed to stop after the 16-year-old suffered fatal injuries on the A31 near Ashley Heath roundabout." "Traffic Inspector Matt Butler said: “We know from our investigation so far that a number of vehicles were involved in the incident and one of these vehicles – a Volvo XC90 – left the scene before police arrived." On the assumption that the police are correct in their comment, the Echo must be guilty of making an inflamatory statement in this report. Old Harry

3:13pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Piston_Broke says...

Old Harry wrote:
"A silver Volvo XC90 failed to stop after the 16-year-old suffered fatal injuries on the A31 near Ashley Heath roundabout."

"Traffic Inspector Matt Butler said: “We know from our investigation so far that a number of vehicles were involved in the incident and one of these vehicles – a Volvo XC90 – left the scene before police arrived."

On the assumption that the police are correct in their comment, the Echo must be guilty of making an inflamatory statement in this report.
This subject was covered yesterday. The expression "failing to stop" is the police term for leaving the scene of (what was obviously) a serious incident, without leaving details or waiting to give an eyewitness report to the police. The Echo have not reported this incorrectly. We can now confidently presume this same individual has also "failed to report" the incident, so that's another offence to add to the charge list when they find the low-life.
[quote][p][bold]Old Harry[/bold] wrote: "A silver Volvo XC90 failed to stop after the 16-year-old suffered fatal injuries on the A31 near Ashley Heath roundabout." "Traffic Inspector Matt Butler said: “We know from our investigation so far that a number of vehicles were involved in the incident and one of these vehicles – a Volvo XC90 – left the scene before police arrived." On the assumption that the police are correct in their comment, the Echo must be guilty of making an inflamatory statement in this report.[/p][/quote]This subject was covered yesterday. The expression "failing to stop" is the police term for leaving the scene of (what was obviously) a serious incident, without leaving details or waiting to give an eyewitness report to the police. The Echo have not reported this incorrectly. We can now confidently presume this same individual has also "failed to report" the incident, so that's another offence to add to the charge list when they find the low-life. Piston_Broke

3:23pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Roband65 says...

If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area !
If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area ! Roband65

3:43pm Fri 1 Mar 13

O'Reilly says...

Pablo23 wrote:
Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy.
And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job.
Bless! Quadrophinia was about Mods & Rockers, I can't recall any lynchings in the film.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy. And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job.[/p][/quote]Bless! Quadrophinia was about Mods & Rockers, I can't recall any lynchings in the film. O'Reilly

3:46pm Fri 1 Mar 13

LordLilliput says...

I'm a little uncomfortable with this this story too.

Are these guys going to go out looking for this vehicle and if so how exactly? Or are they - like everyone else who has read this and the previous stories - simply going to keep a keen eye out for this car? I don't see what else they can do that anybody else isn't.

This being the case it's very much an unnecessary, irrelevant and distracting story when what we should be focussing on the devastating loss of a young girl. This kind of headline and story along with a group photo of scooter enthusiasts showing off their respective pride and glory is neither useful or helpful. It just feels a little insensitive

My thoughts are with Jade's family at this incredibly difficult time.
I'm a little uncomfortable with this this story too. Are these guys going to go out looking for this vehicle and if so how exactly? Or are they - like everyone else who has read this and the previous stories - simply going to keep a keen eye out for this car? I don't see what else they can do that anybody else isn't. This being the case it's very much an unnecessary, irrelevant and distracting story when what we should be focussing on the devastating loss of a young girl. This kind of headline and story along with a group photo of scooter enthusiasts showing off their respective pride and glory is neither useful or helpful. It just feels a little insensitive My thoughts are with Jade's family at this incredibly difficult time. LordLilliput

4:57pm Fri 1 Mar 13

hs1968 says...

having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm.
having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm. hs1968

5:23pm Fri 1 Mar 13

hucky999 says...

Its a Volvo XC90 chelsea tractor probably used for the precious school run. Some overpaid snob thinks they can get away with this.
Its a Volvo XC90 chelsea tractor probably used for the precious school run. Some overpaid snob thinks they can get away with this. hucky999

5:39pm Fri 1 Mar 13

retry69 says...

hs1968 wrote:
having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm.
Please disregard those inappropriate comments and good luck!
[quote][p][bold]hs1968[/bold] wrote: having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm.[/p][/quote]Please disregard those inappropriate comments and good luck! retry69

5:44pm Fri 1 Mar 13

downfader says...

To all those people who have said she shouldnt have rode that road:

She had every right
She may not have had an alternative
You are blaming the victim.

Good luck to the scooter riders! A number of us outside the area have been tweeting/following this case in the hope someone will come forward.
To all those people who have said she shouldnt have rode that road: She had every right She may not have had an alternative You are blaming the victim. Good luck to the scooter riders! A number of us outside the area have been tweeting/following this case in the hope someone will come forward. downfader

5:50pm Fri 1 Mar 13

504gld says...

I appreciate the community spirit to find this car, but practically a quick look at the information already in the public domain at the click of a mouse, http://www.howmanyle
ft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9
C%93&q=volvo+xc90 soon says over 10,000 of this model of Volvo are in the UK.
I appreciate the community spirit to find this car, but practically a quick look at the information already in the public domain at the click of a mouse, http://www.howmanyle ft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9 C%93&q=volvo+xc90 soon says over 10,000 of this model of Volvo are in the UK. 504gld

6:39pm Fri 1 Mar 13

ringwood resident says...

Having read the comments above I would just like to point out to those who don't live in Ringwood that if any of us want to go West towards Ferndown then this is really the only way we can go. The alternative is up the Salisbury Road, through Alderholt, Verwood,to 3 legged cross, probably put 30 minutes at least on the journey and these are country lanes. The other alternative is to go down towards Christchurch past Sopley, Avon Causeway, past the airport to Ferndown. When anything happens on this stretch of Road you cannot get out of Ringwood in any direction without a traffic jam.

Therefore whether riding a motorcyle, car or pushbike there is no alternative, we cannot avoid the A31 whether we like it or not if we want to go West.
It is a nightmare and it is the selfish drivers or visitors who don;t know the stretch of road that causes the problems for the local and regular users of the A31.

This has had an enormous effect on the people of Ringwood whether we knew Jade or not, we all know someone who did know her and it is such a tragic waste of a young life.
Having read the comments above I would just like to point out to those who don't live in Ringwood that if any of us want to go West towards Ferndown then this is really the only way we can go. The alternative is up the Salisbury Road, through Alderholt, Verwood,to 3 legged cross, probably put 30 minutes at least on the journey and these are country lanes. The other alternative is to go down towards Christchurch past Sopley, Avon Causeway, past the airport to Ferndown. When anything happens on this stretch of Road you cannot get out of Ringwood in any direction without a traffic jam. Therefore whether riding a motorcyle, car or pushbike there is no alternative, we cannot avoid the A31 whether we like it or not if we want to go West. It is a nightmare and it is the selfish drivers or visitors who don;t know the stretch of road that causes the problems for the local and regular users of the A31. This has had an enormous effect on the people of Ringwood whether we knew Jade or not, we all know someone who did know her and it is such a tragic waste of a young life. ringwood resident

6:52pm Fri 1 Mar 13

scrumpyjack says...

Pablo23 wrote:
Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy.
And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job.
Yeah I bet they are just like a work of fiction about the 60's.

This being 2013 and real life and all.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: Lynch mobs always make me a bit uneasy. And having seen Quadrophenia I'm not sure this lot are the right people for the job.[/p][/quote]Yeah I bet they are just like a work of fiction about the 60's. This being 2013 and real life and all. scrumpyjack

7:27pm Fri 1 Mar 13

GodOfNout says...

I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver.
I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver. GodOfNout

7:42pm Fri 1 Mar 13

buickboy says...

hs1968 wrote:
having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm.
I'm a biker, was a teenager in the 60's, went through the mods and rockers thing, ride a stock jap bike to work and my harley for pleasure,
I've been hospitalised more than once by inconsiderate/ idiotic car drivers.
It makes no difference on two wheels whether you're on a bicycle, scooter, harley or 200 bhp sports bike, YOU ARE VUNERABLE.
Good luck scooterists, you can add a whole bunch of bikers to your ranks looking out fot this person ( male or female ?)
Best wishes to the family xx
[quote][p][bold]hs1968[/bold] wrote: having just read all the above comments can i just correct a few people. we are not a lynch mob hunting the driver of the car that the police are looking for. a rideout has been organised which will include scooters & other "bike riders" to show support to the family of jade clark and make people aware of the dangers for all riders!!!!! we will be making a collection to donate to a charity of the parents choice. if anybody wishes to join us they are more than welcome. we will be gathering in the larger carpark at ringwood from about 5.30pm.[/p][/quote]I'm a biker, was a teenager in the 60's, went through the mods and rockers thing, ride a stock jap bike to work and my harley for pleasure, I've been hospitalised more than once by inconsiderate/ idiotic car drivers. It makes no difference on two wheels whether you're on a bicycle, scooter, harley or 200 bhp sports bike, YOU ARE VUNERABLE. Good luck scooterists, you can add a whole bunch of bikers to your ranks looking out fot this person ( male or female ?) Best wishes to the family xx buickboy

7:52pm Fri 1 Mar 13

in-my-opinion says...

Surely someone must've noticed if a friend/neighbours car has suddenly disappeared from regular use? If someone i knew drove one of these vehicles and then all of a sudden they stopped using it after a huge tragedy like this- covered by local media- i would become rather suspicious.
Its disgraceful that some scumbag is covering for an even bigger scumbag. A beautiful innocent young girl has lost her life. Makes me really question what type of society we live in.
R.I.P.
Surely someone must've noticed if a friend/neighbours car has suddenly disappeared from regular use? If someone i knew drove one of these vehicles and then all of a sudden they stopped using it after a huge tragedy like this- covered by local media- i would become rather suspicious. Its disgraceful that some scumbag is covering for an even bigger scumbag. A beautiful innocent young girl has lost her life. Makes me really question what type of society we live in. R.I.P. in-my-opinion

9:22pm Fri 1 Mar 13

gameon says...

Roband65 wrote:
If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area !
Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .
[quote][p][bold]Roband65[/bold] wrote: If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area ![/p][/quote]Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds . gameon

9:40pm Fri 1 Mar 13

scrumpyjack says...

GodOfNout wrote:
I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver.
Oh please. This is becoming the equivalent of 'Jaws' when they first went out looking for the shark.
[quote][p][bold]GodOfNout[/bold] wrote: I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver.[/p][/quote]Oh please. This is becoming the equivalent of 'Jaws' when they first went out looking for the shark. scrumpyjack

9:49pm Fri 1 Mar 13

GodOfNout says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
GodOfNout wrote:
I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver.
Oh please. This is becoming the equivalent of 'Jaws' when they first went out looking for the shark.
Sorry, but having not seen Jaws your reference is meaningless to me.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GodOfNout[/bold] wrote: I actually saw a Volvo XC90 today in the car park opposite Sainsbury's when I was working on the trolleys. It didn't have any damage on the front of it however. If it was the car in question I'd say the driver would have been making a bold move coming into town. Also did have one lady ask myself and a colleague to identify a car that she thought was a Volvo that had damage to done to it, yet it was actually a Toyota that looked similar. So many more people are looking, and we will find this driver.[/p][/quote]Oh please. This is becoming the equivalent of 'Jaws' when they first went out looking for the shark.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but having not seen Jaws your reference is meaningless to me. GodOfNout

9:53pm Fri 1 Mar 13

scrumpyjack says...

gameon wrote:
Roband65 wrote:
If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area !
Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .
You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'?

This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples.
[quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roband65[/bold] wrote: If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area ![/p][/quote]Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .[/p][/quote]You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'? This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples. scrumpyjack

5:11am Sat 2 Mar 13

Old Boscombe Lad says...

I hope you find the driver who did this.
I hope you find the driver who did this. Old Boscombe Lad

9:48am Sat 2 Mar 13

gameon says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
gameon wrote:
Roband65 wrote:
If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area !
Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .
You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'?

This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples.
So Why Brain of the South are The Police asking for our help One thing you say and you couldnt even spell that right Yes this is a TRAGEDY and decent people are out trying to help the Police in any way they can. Arch Critics like Your inane comments are just treated with Contempt.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roband65[/bold] wrote: If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area ![/p][/quote]Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .[/p][/quote]You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'? This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples.[/p][/quote]So Why Brain of the South are The Police asking for our help One thing you say and you couldnt even spell that right Yes this is a TRAGEDY and decent people are out trying to help the Police in any way they can. Arch Critics like Your inane comments are just treated with Contempt. gameon

10:07am Sat 2 Mar 13

Cherry19 says...

Good luck to the bikers, ignore the critics - all they have done is take to heart that a young girl on her scooter, who had as much right on the road as everyone else, was hit by a car & left the scene, from the facts filtering out, it would this was the initial car that hit the poor girl, they know they did it, they won't come forward & to leave the accident scene is abhorrent ... the car is probably tucked away in a garage somewhere, but if anyone has any suspicions, they must contact the Police - let Jade's family have the answers they need ... good luck to the bikers & scooterists...
Good luck to the bikers, ignore the critics - all they have done is take to heart that a young girl on her scooter, who had as much right on the road as everyone else, was hit by a car & left the scene, from the facts filtering out, it would this was the initial car that hit the poor girl, they know they did it, they won't come forward & to leave the accident scene is abhorrent ... the car is probably tucked away in a garage somewhere, but if anyone has any suspicions, they must contact the Police - let Jade's family have the answers they need ... good luck to the bikers & scooterists... Cherry19

12:30pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Stop Press says...

Get the Royal Mail delivery staff on to it, they walk up every drive in the country. Even if they can't see it they'll know it's not on the drive as usual.
Get the Royal Mail delivery staff on to it, they walk up every drive in the country. Even if they can't see it they'll know it's not on the drive as usual. Stop Press

12:36pm Sat 2 Mar 13

spooki says...

As much as I hope they find whoever killed this young girl, I don't think a 16 should be out on the roads, whether a scooter or a car.
I saw an advert in Southampton for a driving instruction company who teach 11 years old upwards! There are way too many crazy people on the roads and a teenager may not have the maturity to cope with things. I find it strange that a 17 year old can legally drive a car but not vote or buy alcohol?
I'm not saying this was the case here at all, just generally that's my view.
This driver MUST know they're being tracked down. Such a sad loss of life. Good luck to the scooter owners but be careful out there.
As much as I hope they find whoever killed this young girl, I don't think a 16 should be out on the roads, whether a scooter or a car. I saw an advert in Southampton for a driving instruction company who teach 11 years old upwards! There are way too many crazy people on the roads and a teenager may not have the maturity to cope with things. I find it strange that a 17 year old can legally drive a car but not vote or buy alcohol? I'm not saying this was the case here at all, just generally that's my view. This driver MUST know they're being tracked down. Such a sad loss of life. Good luck to the scooter owners but be careful out there. spooki

4:17pm Sat 2 Mar 13

scrumpyjack says...

gameon wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
gameon wrote:
Roband65 wrote:
If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area !
Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .
You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'?

This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples.
So Why Brain of the South are The Police asking for our help One thing you say and you couldnt even spell that right Yes this is a TRAGEDY and decent people are out trying to help the Police in any way they can. Arch Critics like Your inane comments are just treated with Contempt.
I'm glad they are 'inane' to you as it is comforting to know I think nothing like you.
[quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roband65[/bold] wrote: If the police really wanted to find this driver they would be contacting all the xc90 owners in the area ![/p][/quote]Quite right in fact look up Volvo xc 90 owners at the DVLA there cant be that many of them i like all of us have been keeping my eyes open and have seen 2 in three days one a gold one and one a blue one locally not excactly your run of the mill vehicle i would have thought the Police could locate that vehicle maybe via the DVLA they say it has frontal damage it could even be in a body shop somewhere i hope details of this tragic event and this Volvos details are circulated throughout the country it must be found at all costs .Sincerest condolences to the Family of that poor girl who had as much right to be on the road as anyone else so less of the crap about no speed or 50cc mopeds .[/p][/quote]You sound like a bunch of clucking fish wives. Do you really think the police are one step behind you? That some plod is reading this and thinking 'my god why didn't we think of the DVLA'? This is a tradegy and not time for some online Miss 'bloody obvious' Marples.[/p][/quote]So Why Brain of the South are The Police asking for our help One thing you say and you couldnt even spell that right Yes this is a TRAGEDY and decent people are out trying to help the Police in any way they can. Arch Critics like Your inane comments are just treated with Contempt.[/p][/quote]I'm glad they are 'inane' to you as it is comforting to know I think nothing like you. scrumpyjack

11:35pm Sat 2 Mar 13

miniminime says...

hucky999 wrote:
Its a Volvo XC90 chelsea tractor probably used for the precious school run. Some overpaid snob thinks they can get away with this.
Don't judge everybody by your own standards!
[quote][p][bold]hucky999[/bold] wrote: Its a Volvo XC90 chelsea tractor probably used for the precious school run. Some overpaid snob thinks they can get away with this.[/p][/quote]Don't judge everybody by your own standards! miniminime

10:12pm Sun 3 Mar 13

bisadave says...

Cherry19 wrote:
Whilst we don't appreciate all the circumstances, I do wonder why the Police took so long to announce that they were looking for this car ... by this time it could have been repaired and/or hundreds of miles away ... people are right, we need to have this mentioned on the national news.

...and I agree, we all need to share the roads, there is too much traffic about these days to take an arrogant stance and stand your ground ... just one second can change someone's life forever... if anything comes from this tragedy, let us hope it will be more consideration , tolerance & understanding. RIP
Just a guess, but perhaps the police identified the make, model and colour from a piece of bodywork left at the scene. This might have taken some time and would explain the confidence they have in the colour and exact model which would have been difficult to ascertain in the dark.
[quote][p][bold]Cherry19[/bold] wrote: Whilst we don't appreciate all the circumstances, I do wonder why the Police took so long to announce that they were looking for this car ... by this time it could have been repaired and/or hundreds of miles away ... people are right, we need to have this mentioned on the national news. ...and I agree, we all need to share the roads, there is too much traffic about these days to take an arrogant stance and stand your ground ... just one second can change someone's life forever... if anything comes from this tragedy, let us hope it will be more consideration , tolerance & understanding. RIP[/p][/quote]Just a guess, but perhaps the police identified the make, model and colour from a piece of bodywork left at the scene. This might have taken some time and would explain the confidence they have in the colour and exact model which would have been difficult to ascertain in the dark. bisadave

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