Cash cow? This Bournemouth parking meter made just £6 in three weeks

Bournemouth Echo: Parking meters on Manor Road in Bournemouth Parking meters on Manor Road in Bournemouth

THEY’RE often criticised as being council money-spinners but some Bournemouth parking meters are earning just a few pounds a week.

A printed transaction docket, left in a meter in Manor Road by a traffic warden, showed the meter had made just £6 in the three weeks between January 20 and February 9.

It also revealed that this one meter had collected just £1,504.50 since it was installed along Manor Road in the East Cliff area on June 11, 2009 – the equivalent of just over £8 a week.

Further enquiries to Bournemouth council confirmed that all 18 meters in Manor Road have collected a total of £83,000 since June 2009 – an average of £25 per meter per week.

East Cliff resident David Reed, who found the docket, said: “As far as I am concerned the meter bays are hardly ever used and the road is usually empty of parked cars.

“If the aim of the council is to dissuade motorists from visiting Bournemouth then they are very successful.”

Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters but said the maintenance costs were “minimal”.

Gary Powell, parking and traffic manager, said: “The parking meters on Manor Road were primarily introduced to encourage people to park more considerately, which benefits both residents and visitors to the area.”

And East Cliff Cllr Michael Filer, who has responsibility for parking, said he was not surprised that some of the meters brought in very little income. “They were put there when we put meters along the clifftop, in response to residents’ requests,” he said.

“The traffic department warned that, if there were no restrictions in Manor Road, people would simply park there instead of paying to park along the cliff.

“The west part of Manor Road is extremely popular, whereas the east part is not. But the meters need to be all the way along because otherwise they would take the revenue away from the clifftop.

“The policy for the town is if it all possible, we want to be sure that no parking charges go up and no meter charges are increased.

“If we are able to achieve that it will be the fourth successive year of no increases.”

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1:14pm Wed 27 Feb 13

funkyferret says...

What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all.
What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all. funkyferret

1:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13

rayc says...

“The west part of Manor Road is extremely popular, whereas the east part is not. But the meters need to be all the way along because otherwise they would take the revenue away from the clifftop".

And that's what its all about. Nothing to do with safety or movement of vehicles, just income.
“The west part of Manor Road is extremely popular, whereas the east part is not. But the meters need to be all the way along because otherwise they would take the revenue away from the clifftop". And that's what its all about. Nothing to do with safety or movement of vehicles, just income. rayc

1:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

PokesdownMark says...

Why don't the council divide the beach up into squares and charge occupancy? Same thinking.
Why don't the council divide the beach up into squares and charge occupancy? Same thinking. PokesdownMark

1:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nermal says...

If the aim of the council is to dissuade motorists from visiting Bournemouth then they are very successful, says the article.

I can only agree. Haven't been anywhere near Bournemouth in ages and don't intend to either.
If the aim of the council is to dissuade motorists from visiting Bournemouth then they are very successful, says the article. I can only agree. Haven't been anywhere near Bournemouth in ages and don't intend to either. nermal

1:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

cherries010101 says...

Hope it raises more cash to pay for the 12 (yes, 12!) 'workers' holding back and diverting the 'crowds' away from the Imax demolition site. I swear I do more work on my lunchbreak than these guys do. Such a waste of money to keep people in work!
Hope it raises more cash to pay for the 12 (yes, 12!) 'workers' holding back and diverting the 'crowds' away from the Imax demolition site. I swear I do more work on my lunchbreak than these guys do. Such a waste of money to keep people in work! cherries010101

1:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RooToo42 says...

Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe.

Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer.
Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe. Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer. RooToo42

1:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13

l'anglais says...

Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend. l'anglais

1:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

muscliffman says...

nermal wrote:
If the aim of the council is to dissuade motorists from visiting Bournemouth then they are very successful, says the article.

I can only agree. Haven't been anywhere near Bournemouth in ages and don't intend to either.
Correct. Charging customers to park their own transport when they have other options which avoid this cost is killing our town centres and High Streets. Pedestrianisation is equally damaging.

Do Bournemouth Council get it yet? No of course not!
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: If the aim of the council is to dissuade motorists from visiting Bournemouth then they are very successful, says the article. I can only agree. Haven't been anywhere near Bournemouth in ages and don't intend to either.[/p][/quote]Correct. Charging customers to park their own transport when they have other options which avoid this cost is killing our town centres and High Streets. Pedestrianisation is equally damaging. Do Bournemouth Council get it yet? No of course not! muscliffman

1:58pm Wed 27 Feb 13

PokesdownMark says...

RooToo42 wrote:
Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe.

Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer.
I believe the parking meters in Manor road were put in to discourage workers in the Lansdowne area from avoiding the council car parks. Before the meters the roads were well used for parking. No such situation exists in Southbourne because there are no workplaces nearby to the same extent.

Bournemouth council do not like residents parking schemes. So that wouldn't get off the ground.
[quote][p][bold]RooToo42[/bold] wrote: Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe. Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer.[/p][/quote]I believe the parking meters in Manor road were put in to discourage workers in the Lansdowne area from avoiding the council car parks. Before the meters the roads were well used for parking. No such situation exists in Southbourne because there are no workplaces nearby to the same extent. Bournemouth council do not like residents parking schemes. So that wouldn't get off the ground. PokesdownMark

2:03pm Wed 27 Feb 13

High Treason says...

The council haven't a clue. I wanted to buy something from Maplins. looked on the internet and they had it in stock in Bournemouth. It was no cheaper elsewhere and delivery was free. Now if parking was free I would have nipped into town and got it and browsed in other stores also. Any answers council? Thought not.
The council haven't a clue. I wanted to buy something from Maplins. looked on the internet and they had it in stock in Bournemouth. It was no cheaper elsewhere and delivery was free. Now if parking was free I would have nipped into town and got it and browsed in other stores also. Any answers council? Thought not. High Treason

2:22pm Wed 27 Feb 13

wonderway says...

when we had business in lymington we bought a clock parking permit it allowed parking in any car park in new forest district car parks cost was then £80 a year BARGIN
when we had business in lymington we bought a clock parking permit it allowed parking in any car park in new forest district car parks cost was then £80 a year BARGIN wonderway

2:23pm Wed 27 Feb 13

BmthNewshound says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
Why don't the council divide the beach up into squares and charge occupancy? Same thinking.
There's no doubt if Beesley could introduce charges for using the beach, the parks or for simply walking down the street he would.
.
He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: Why don't the council divide the beach up into squares and charge occupancy? Same thinking.[/p][/quote]There's no doubt if Beesley could introduce charges for using the beach, the parks or for simply walking down the street he would. . He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. BmthNewshound

2:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Old Colonial says...

"Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters but said the maintenance costs were “minimal”." Unable or unwilling? Is this data somehow subject to the Official Secrets Act, or are they really so incompetent that they actually haven't a clue?
"Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters but said the maintenance costs were “minimal”." Unable or unwilling? Is this data somehow subject to the Official Secrets Act, or are they really so incompetent that they actually haven't a clue? Old Colonial

2:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Phixer says...

"Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters"

It is irresponsible for BBC not to know the costs involved with spending your and my money.

I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues.

Or is it cold and wet outside??
"Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters" It is irresponsible for BBC not to know the costs involved with spending your and my money. I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues. Or is it cold and wet outside?? Phixer

2:56pm Wed 27 Feb 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

funkyferret wrote:
What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all.
That's why they won't tell the Echo. The plot thickens. We're probably all paying a cost for the privilege of not being able to park lol.
[quote][p][bold]funkyferret[/bold] wrote: What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all.[/p][/quote]That's why they won't tell the Echo. The plot thickens. We're probably all paying a cost for the privilege of not being able to park lol. HRH of Boscombe

3:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

BIGTONE says...

funkyferret wrote:
What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all.
Well, you should know by now....a council will spend £100 of your money to get £1.
That will never change.
Otherwise it's top secret.
[quote][p][bold]funkyferret[/bold] wrote: What we do need to know is exactly how much it costs to service & maintain these meters, (including the associated staffing & transport costs), to establish if there is any net gain at all.[/p][/quote]Well, you should know by now....a council will spend £100 of your money to get £1. That will never change. Otherwise it's top secret. BIGTONE

3:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Lord Spring says...

To the East Cliff resident , who found the docket,
Shame on you this comes under the Bournemouth Borough Council Official Secrets Act .
Wait for the knock on the the door at midnight MI5
To the East Cliff resident , who found the docket, Shame on you this comes under the Bournemouth Borough Council Official Secrets Act . Wait for the knock on the the door at midnight MI5 Lord Spring

4:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Hessenford says...

rayc wrote:
“The west part of Manor Road is extremely popular, whereas the east part is not. But the meters need to be all the way along because otherwise they would take the revenue away from the clifftop".

And that's what its all about. Nothing to do with safety or movement of vehicles, just income.
Quite right, they knew that when parking meters are installed anywhere people will not want to pay extortionate charges and will find somewhere else to park for free or cheaper, this is nothing to do with safety, it's all about filling the streets with meters to raise revenue.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: “The west part of Manor Road is extremely popular, whereas the east part is not. But the meters need to be all the way along because otherwise they would take the revenue away from the clifftop". And that's what its all about. Nothing to do with safety or movement of vehicles, just income.[/p][/quote]Quite right, they knew that when parking meters are installed anywhere people will not want to pay extortionate charges and will find somewhere else to park for free or cheaper, this is nothing to do with safety, it's all about filling the streets with meters to raise revenue. Hessenford

4:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Hessenford says...

RooToo42 wrote:
Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe.

Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer.
Yea right, lets cover the whole country in parking meters, we have to pay tax and insurance to drive on the roads and now it seems we have to pay every time we stop, glad I do all my shopping on the internet and visit places which do not wage war on their tourist trade.
[quote][p][bold]RooToo42[/bold] wrote: Manor Road is rarely used for parking in the off-season, so this is no surprise that takings are extremely low. Though the whole 'East Cliff' area as a whole, over the year probably adds a considerable amount to the councils coffers from mainly visitors to the the town who want to visit the beach during the summer, and not be stung by the 'all day' charge on the Undercliffe. Why there are no meters on the Boscombe/Southbourne clifftop is a bit of a mystery to me though. ok, restrictions would have to include the many side streets, but resident permits would be provided which would help residents to actually find a parking spot near there homes in the summer.[/p][/quote]Yea right, lets cover the whole country in parking meters, we have to pay tax and insurance to drive on the roads and now it seems we have to pay every time we stop, glad I do all my shopping on the internet and visit places which do not wage war on their tourist trade. Hessenford

4:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ShuttleX says...

Phixer wrote:
"Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters"

It is irresponsible for BBC not to know the costs involved with spending your and my money.

I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues.

Or is it cold and wet outside??
Phixer wrote "....I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues."

Don't hold your breath on the Echo actually doing any such thing. Much easier to cut and paste.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: "Bournemouth council was unable to provide the Echo with a breakdown of the costs of purchasing, installing and maintaining the meters" It is irresponsible for BBC not to know the costs involved with spending your and my money. I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues. Or is it cold and wet outside??[/p][/quote]Phixer wrote "....I trust that the Echo will use its journalistic experience to pursue BBC to answer such issues." Don't hold your breath on the Echo actually doing any such thing. Much easier to cut and paste. ShuttleX

5:02pm Wed 27 Feb 13

rayc says...

The use of parking as a political tool is clearly detailed in Local Transport Plans. Poole Council for example make no secret of the fact that the income from parking is used to keep council tax rises lower than they otherwise would be and to deter commuter parking etc.
Councils are now paying the price of using parking as a control and as a revenue earner as now the two are in conflict. The motorists have taken the hint that they are not welcome except at a price and together with draconian enforcement of petty infringements also a factor, are staying away.
The use of parking as a political tool is clearly detailed in Local Transport Plans. Poole Council for example make no secret of the fact that the income from parking is used to keep council tax rises lower than they otherwise would be and to deter commuter parking etc. Councils are now paying the price of using parking as a control and as a revenue earner as now the two are in conflict. The motorists have taken the hint that they are not welcome except at a price and together with draconian enforcement of petty infringements also a factor, are staying away. rayc

6:55pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Wageslave says...

l'anglais wrote:
Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
I thought the idea was to get people out of their cars and on to public transport. Bus travellers still spend money, why should we pay more council tax to subsidise car drivers.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.[/p][/quote]I thought the idea was to get people out of their cars and on to public transport. Bus travellers still spend money, why should we pay more council tax to subsidise car drivers. Wageslave

7:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

West moors 1 says...

It's all about the revenue these machines can generate. Businesses in the town are dying and these meters don't help. Business rates are rediculous and what does the council do, they put people off coming by punishing them with high charges. The council is run by idiots and self serving pampered twits! Not a business brain in the entire council chamber of oversized offices that go with it.
It's all about the revenue these machines can generate. Businesses in the town are dying and these meters don't help. Business rates are rediculous and what does the council do, they put people off coming by punishing them with high charges. The council is run by idiots and self serving pampered twits! Not a business brain in the entire council chamber of oversized offices that go with it. West moors 1

7:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

rayc says...

Wageslave wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
I thought the idea was to get people out of their cars and on to public transport. Bus travellers still spend money, why should we pay more council tax to subsidise car drivers.
Is your bus service subsidised? I doubt you are paying the full commercial rate of providing the service, even the fuel the bus company is paying is covered under the Bus Service Operators Grant.
"Under the Coalition government's Comprehensive Spending Review (CSR) the grant was kept at 81% until April 2012, when reduced by 20%."
It looks like the Government plan lowering it even more so best take advantage of it.
[quote][p][bold]Wageslave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.[/p][/quote]I thought the idea was to get people out of their cars and on to public transport. Bus travellers still spend money, why should we pay more council tax to subsidise car drivers.[/p][/quote]Is your bus service subsidised? I doubt you are paying the full commercial rate of providing the service, even the fuel the bus company is paying is covered under the Bus Service Operators Grant. "Under the Coalition government's Comprehensive Spending Review (CSR) the grant was kept at 81% until April 2012, when reduced by 20%." It looks like the Government plan lowering it even more so best take advantage of it. rayc

8:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

mikeba says...

Parking meters amaze me .... have one right in front of my kitchen window (can almost reach out and put a coin in it), in Poole, "Out of Service" for the last five weeks. Strange but it was "Out of Service" for a three month run last year. Also we have signs above the meter "No motor caravans .. use car parks" and three motor caravans regularly parking within 25metres of the signs. I am sure these also have Season Tickets ..... can someone please explain ... how does this work then???? Has to be laid down by Poole Council ... maybe they should have a litle drive around Newfoundland Drive ... please!!!
Parking meters amaze me .... have one right in front of my kitchen window (can almost reach out and put a coin in it), in Poole, "Out of Service" for the last five weeks. Strange but it was "Out of Service" for a three month run last year. Also we have signs above the meter "No motor caravans .. use car parks" and three motor caravans regularly parking within 25metres of the signs. I am sure these also have Season Tickets ..... can someone please explain ... how does this work then???? Has to be laid down by Poole Council ... maybe they should have a litle drive around Newfoundland Drive ... please!!! mikeba

10:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

s-pb2 says...

If this is all the Echo can manage to do on reporting on council services then its pretty pathetic. All i can say to the article is 'so what!' Perhaps the Echo should spend time looking at how a lack of funds and facilities for frontline workers are actually putting peoples lives at risk, rather than this rubbish excuse of a story
If this is all the Echo can manage to do on reporting on council services then its pretty pathetic. All i can say to the article is 'so what!' Perhaps the Echo should spend time looking at how a lack of funds and facilities for frontline workers are actually putting peoples lives at risk, rather than this rubbish excuse of a story s-pb2

10:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

l'anglais wrote:
Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.[/p][/quote]Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like. HRH of Boscombe

10:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

lionheart says...

Parking in certain areas like the cliff top should be free in winter months.

Isn't there something illegal about the parking meters in Bournemouth?
Parking in certain areas like the cliff top should be free in winter months. Isn't there something illegal about the parking meters in Bournemouth? lionheart

10:47pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Bournefre says...

*THIS* Bournemouth parking meter may have made just £6 in three weeks, but what about the others?
The implication seems to be that every parking meter in Bournemouth takes around £2 per week, but I suspect many make a lot more.
*THIS* Bournemouth parking meter may have made just £6 in three weeks, but what about the others? The implication seems to be that every parking meter in Bournemouth takes around £2 per week, but I suspect many make a lot more. Bournefre

11:21pm Wed 27 Feb 13

rayc says...

Bournefre wrote:
*THIS* Bournemouth parking meter may have made just £6 in three weeks, but what about the others?
The implication seems to be that every parking meter in Bournemouth takes around £2 per week, but I suspect many make a lot more.
This one is there to ensure that the others, in a nearer or more desirable location for the user are used.
[quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: *THIS* Bournemouth parking meter may have made just £6 in three weeks, but what about the others? The implication seems to be that every parking meter in Bournemouth takes around £2 per week, but I suspect many make a lot more.[/p][/quote]This one is there to ensure that the others, in a nearer or more desirable location for the user are used. rayc

10:09am Thu 28 Feb 13

l'anglais says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like.
I think you need to think a little before typing.
Car Park meters don't affect online shopping, however they have a major impact on High Streets.
Everyone benefits from a thriving economy, if amazon decided to impose delivery charges, their business would slow down.
Parking meters have the same affect on the High Streets.
However, the local council will have a shortfall in their coffers, therefore as everyone benefits from people spending their cash on the High Street rather than the Internet, everyone should contribute a little extra council tax and not rely on central govt. to bail you out.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.[/p][/quote]Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like.[/p][/quote]I think you need to think a little before typing. Car Park meters don't affect online shopping, however they have a major impact on High Streets. Everyone benefits from a thriving economy, if amazon decided to impose delivery charges, their business would slow down. Parking meters have the same affect on the High Streets. However, the local council will have a shortfall in their coffers, therefore as everyone benefits from people spending their cash on the High Street rather than the Internet, everyone should contribute a little extra council tax and not rely on central govt. to bail you out. l'anglais

12:27pm Thu 28 Feb 13

stevobath says...

l'anglais wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
Why not take away parking meters all together?
This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%.

Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.
Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like.
I think you need to think a little before typing.
Car Park meters don't affect online shopping, however they have a major impact on High Streets.
Everyone benefits from a thriving economy, if amazon decided to impose delivery charges, their business would slow down.
Parking meters have the same affect on the High Streets.
However, the local council will have a shortfall in their coffers, therefore as everyone benefits from people spending their cash on the High Street rather than the Internet, everyone should contribute a little extra council tax and not rely on central govt. to bail you out.
I seem to recall paying P&P for a book I bought on Amazon?

Also,moan about car parking charges in B'mouth?...Try Bath for parking & charges.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: Why not take away parking meters all together? This can be counterbalanced by increasing Council tax by 10%. Those who drive go to places to spend money and will have more incentive to do so if they didn't have to pay for the right to spend.[/p][/quote]Not so. The people/generation spending most are the 30-40yr olds. The begining of the online generation. Another reason why high streets are closing but it doesn't mean they should pay extra for the old bods to potter. Spend where you like.[/p][/quote]I think you need to think a little before typing. Car Park meters don't affect online shopping, however they have a major impact on High Streets. Everyone benefits from a thriving economy, if amazon decided to impose delivery charges, their business would slow down. Parking meters have the same affect on the High Streets. However, the local council will have a shortfall in their coffers, therefore as everyone benefits from people spending their cash on the High Street rather than the Internet, everyone should contribute a little extra council tax and not rely on central govt. to bail you out.[/p][/quote]I seem to recall paying P&P for a book I bought on Amazon? Also,moan about car parking charges in B'mouth?...Try Bath for parking & charges. stevobath

2:17pm Thu 28 Feb 13

randson112 says...

why should my mum pay more council tax so that you can have free parking,
we pay road tax to be on the road, parking charges are just a tax on tax, fortunately people have a choice whether to pay them or not, and evidently not many people are willing to pay them, so who suffers, not the councils, they would only have spent it on more hare brained schemes, the high street shops definitely will suffer by lose of trade combined with excessive rent and exorbitant rates, the councils are the peoples responsibility, it is up to you to change the councils to make them work for you if you wish to sit back and be lazy then expect to suffer the consequences.
why should my mum pay more council tax so that you can have free parking, we pay road tax to be on the road, parking charges are just a tax on tax, fortunately people have a choice whether to pay them or not, and evidently not many people are willing to pay them, so who suffers, not the councils, they would only have spent it on more hare brained schemes, the high street shops definitely will suffer by lose of trade combined with excessive rent and exorbitant rates, the councils are the peoples responsibility, it is up to you to change the councils to make them work for you if you wish to sit back and be lazy then expect to suffer the consequences. randson112

3:14pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Stop Press says...

How did Bournemouth Council manage before they had the revenue from all the meters around Bournemouth?
Do yourselves a favour, if there are any this year, enjoy the sunny days, before they start metering daylight and taxing us on that!
How did Bournemouth Council manage before they had the revenue from all the meters around Bournemouth? Do yourselves a favour, if there are any this year, enjoy the sunny days, before they start metering daylight and taxing us on that! Stop Press

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