Dumped horses leave common - but move to Cherry Tree Field (From Bournemouth Echo)

That's a well fed looking bit of protein - I am salivating just staring at the screen. Need something to bulk out the cardboard in my lasange!

Echo -will you please look through your archives and find your article about Mr Stanley when he lived in South Kinson Drive and had a pony chained on Kinson Common.This pony died as have others in his care!
RSPCA WERE INVOLVED!
"Never had problems before moving to Redhill" What absolute rubbish!

Please note that Longham/Millhams Mead and the field between Wimborne Road and Poole Lane are regularly illegally grazed by other such well known families! These are also Council owned!

By the way Mr Stanley- these sites are not"common" land!

I'm sure Tesco's could arrange to collect them....

It's a ridiculous situation that horses can't graze down there but the council are going to shove a load of cows in to graze shortly. They've even fenced the land of to do so.

I guess it boils down to one thing. MONEY!

Hurn08 wrote:
It's a ridiculous situation that horses can't graze down there but the council are going to shove a load of cows in to graze shortly. They've even fenced the land of to do so.

I guess it boils down to one thing. MONEY!

The cattle are legal and the horses are not under by-laws on nature reserves!

Arjay wrote:
I'm sure Tesco's could arrange to collect them....

Im sure if they put horse on the menu and labelled it as horse steak people would like to try it !

Have I missed something? What is the point of the owner having these horses? They are not being ridden or worked etc just seem to be left to it.

” he said. “I’ve had horses for 35 years.
“Ask anybody in a 10-mile radius if I look after my horses. They get fed every single day"

Ok fine, but WHY??

one night i was drivng down poole lane and 2 horses were walking around on the road i stayed there to make sure no one hit them and rung the police who did nothing they didnt even come out even thou they could have caused a serious accident it was lucky that a passing car knew the owners and whet and told them

chris100 wrote:
one night i was drivng down poole lane and 2 horses were walking around on the road i stayed there to make sure no one hit them and rung the police who did nothing they didnt even come out even thou they could have caused a serious accident it was lucky that a passing car knew the owners and whet and told them

I have come across similar situation in Poole lane but to be fair the police did turn up. They have to prioritise at the end of the day. Oh and the parasites others are referring to have 2 very well educated children. People are so fickle and quick to judge nowadays that its no wonder Bournemouth has a reputation for miserable people! I lived 2 doors away from a traveller family who were excellent neighbours and when they moved their new neighbours were sent letters by Bournemouth Council asking them to grass them up if they had any problems! Needless to day the neighbours did at every opprotunity for what they would otherwise have tolerated from a non traveller family. WTF was that about!

Typical Echo censorship most comments removed.

Rikaroony wrote:
Have I missed something? What is the point of the owner having these horses? They are not being ridden or worked etc just seem to be left to it.

” he said. “I’ve had horses for 35 years.
“Ask anybody in a 10-mile radius if I look after my horses. They get fed every single day"

Ok fine, but WHY??

Mr Stanley has a pony & trap

Dibbles2 wrote:

chris100 wrote:
one night i was drivng down poole lane and 2 horses were walking around on the road i stayed there to make sure no one hit them and rung the police who did nothing they didnt even come out even thou they could have caused a serious accident it was lucky that a passing car knew the owners and whet and told them

I have come across similar situation in Poole lane but to be fair the police did turn up. They have to prioritise at the end of the day. Oh and the parasites others are referring to have 2 very well educated children. People are so fickle and quick to judge nowadays that its no wonder Bournemouth has a reputation for miserable people! I lived 2 doors away from a traveller family who were excellent neighbours and when they moved their new neighbours were sent letters by Bournemouth Council asking them to grass them up if they had any problems! Needless to day the neighbours did at every opprotunity for what they would otherwise have tolerated from a non traveller family. WTF was that about!

"Oh and the parasites others are referring to have 2 very well educated children"
Which ones do you refer to?

Are the police and council the only people in Bournemouth who don't know who's horses these are?

bourne free wrote:

Arjay wrote:
I'm sure Tesco's could arrange to collect them....

Im sure if they put horse on the menu and labelled it as horse steak people would like to try it !

Horse meat was popular in the UK many years ago.

I ate horse meat last year, very tender and tasty.

username is already in use wrote:
Are the police and council the only people in Bournemouth who don't know who's horses these are?

A big problem in previous incidents has been finding out who owns ponies illegally grazed but it seems the authorities know now!

Someone could be providing a school
for horse-riding at a reduced price!

What a load of old rubbish; the owner cites "lack of grazing"....what nonsense, doesn't want to pay field rents more likely.

I do take it that the owner has horse passports for all his equines, as required by law? If so, then a quick scan will identify the owner by the microchip number. Of course this only works if the passport information ie. owner's name and address are kept up to date.

If this identification is not done due to "lack of resources or manpower" then that further reinforces my suspicion that the microchipping of dogs is going to be a spectacular failure.

My little pony?

steve518 wrote:
Typical Echo censorship most comments removed.

yep any home truths about pik-ys or cack-rs and the echo runs scared !

oversixty wrote:

Rikaroony wrote:
Have I missed something? What is the point of the owner having these horses? They are not being ridden or worked etc just seem to be left to it.

” he said. “I’ve had horses for 35 years.
“Ask anybody in a 10-mile radius if I look after my horses. They get fed every single day"

Ok fine, but WHY??

Mr Stanley has a pony & trap

Firstly, I must say that most of the horses mentioned on land local to Kinson do appear to be in good condition, fed and watered regularly and provided with rugs where required by the owner.
They are also ridden pretty regularly, unfortunately, up and down Wimborne Road at great speed, mostly on the pavements, scattering pedestrians. I saw one poor elderly lady who missed being trampled by inches as they rounded the corner at the Lloyds Bank cash machine.
The pony and trap conjures up romantic old fashioned imagery, but not when being driven through red lights. This also happens on a regular basis, and on one occasion even causing a bus to swerve to avoid them.
It really is only a matter of time before they cause a serious accident.
Times may have changed, but there are still enough bridle paths in Dorset to enjoy a horse ride without endangering other people. Hey, all those other owners who actually have to pay field rent manage to find them.

Sadly it is not just about giving the horses the bare essentials ie food & water,they need to be groomed, hooves checked, teeth checked.... the list goes on!! most horses love human contact & get depressed if this is does not happen, in the Stanleys case which I see very often as I drive past to do my horses, it involves tanking them around the streets & great speed (cantering them on the road is very dangerous & so bad for their joints ) I have also seen them beaten if the horse is scared & not doing what they want, their is no love for the poor horses they are just a way of making a bit of money buy selling them,-look into their eyes and all you will see is sadness & fear!-I have complained on many occasions but nothing ever done, I dont know what the answer is, maybe a ban on the family ever owning horses????-Mr Stanley must have forgotten the time he tethered a stunning young horse on the top of Kinson Common that died the most painful of deaths with a broken neck whilst being tethered I , on the other hand have never forgotten

I must also add I pay £120 a month to keep each horse-there is grazing around you just need to look for it!!

jax123 wrote:
Sadly it is not just about giving the horses the bare essentials ie food & water,they need to be groomed, hooves checked, teeth checked.... the list goes on!! most horses love human contact & get depressed if this is does not happen, in the Stanleys case which I see very often as I drive past to do my horses, it involves tanking them around the streets & great speed (cantering them on the road is very dangerous & so bad for their joints ) I have also seen them beaten if the horse is scared & not doing what they want, their is no love for the poor horses they are just a way of making a bit of money buy selling them,-look into their eyes and all you will see is sadness & fear!-I have complained on many occasions but nothing ever done, I dont know what the answer is, maybe a ban on the family ever owning horses????-Mr Stanley must have forgotten the time he tethered a stunning young horse on the top of Kinson Common that died the most painful of deaths with a broken neck whilst being tethered I , on the other hand have never forgotten

Well said - I don't know what the answer is regarding the RSPCA, but there are an awful lot of people in Kinson who haven't forgotten that poor horse either.

QUOTE- “Everybody used them for pulling our homes years and years ago. Now they’ve moved us into houses that travellers don’t like living in.”, So sorry Mr Stanley you dont like your home the council moved you into, maybe you could put your horse in it, he may like it

MMM444 wrote:
QUOTE- “Everybody used them for pulling our homes years and years ago. Now they’ve moved us into houses that travellers don’t like living in.”, So sorry Mr Stanley you dont like your home the council moved you into, maybe you could put your horse in it, he may like it

Mr Stanley does not live in a Council house.

oversixty wrote:

MMM444 wrote:
QUOTE- “Everybody used them for pulling our homes years and years ago. Now they’ve moved us into houses that travellers don’t like living in.”, So sorry Mr Stanley you dont like your home the council moved you into, maybe you could put your horse in it, he may like it

Mr Stanley does not live in a Council house.

Well thats what the article say's, Quote,He said he came from a travelling tradition which valued horses. “Everybody used them for pulling our homes years and years ago. Now they’ve moved us into houses that travellers don’t like living in.” Who put him into a house he dont like then??, Has he bought it off the council??

As a responsible horse owner for 40+ years,these stories make my blood run cold.There is grazing available,obviously,
that costs money but IMHO no horse should ever be tethered.Besides all the other comments here,it also leaves them vulnerable to attack,be it by animal or humans,horses are flight animals.I also dread to think what the do-gooder neighbours were feeding these poor animals,or do they all keep a supply of hay and hard feed in their garden sheds ?

Give a thought for the neighbours who have to put up with this lot living by them.Why don't the Council Or RSPCA do something about it.Normally the Social would be piling in with the conditions they all live in.Perhaps the Curch owners of the house could find an unused/closed Church where the only people they could make lives a misery for are in the Cemetry and past caring of the dross of humanity that blight everyone elses life.

Looks like they have gone from Cherry Tree?

Is this the same Stanleys that lived in South Kinson Drive and kept a horse in the house. You can tell their house in Wimborne Road by all the junk and clutter in the front garden,looks a real tip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nevernever wrote:
Is this the same Stanleys that lived in South Kinson Drive and kept a horse in the house. You can tell their house in Wimborne Road by all the junk and clutter in the front garden,looks a real tip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, same family:-(

Dibbles2 wrote:

chris100 wrote:
one night i was drivng down poole lane and 2 horses were walking around on the road i stayed there to make sure no one hit them and rung the police who did nothing they didnt even come out even thou they could have caused a serious accident it was lucky that a passing car knew the owners and whet and told them

I have come across similar situation in Poole lane but to be fair the police did turn up. They have to prioritise at the end of the day. Oh and the parasites others are referring to have 2 very well educated children. People are so fickle and quick to judge nowadays that its no wonder Bournemouth has a reputation for miserable people! I lived 2 doors away from a traveller family who were excellent neighbours and when they moved their new neighbours were sent letters by Bournemouth Council asking them to grass them up if they had any problems! Needless to day the neighbours did at every opprotunity for what they would otherwise have tolerated from a non traveller family. WTF was that about!

'Is this the same Stanleys that lived in South Kinson Drive and kept a horse in the house. You can tell their house in Wimborne Road by all the junk and clutter in the front garden,looks a real tip'


'Give a thought for the neighbours who have to put up with this lot living by them'

'I saw one poor elderly lady who missed being trampled by inches as they rounded the corner at the Lloyds Bank cash machine.'

'I saw these horses on Sunday and they were distressed, with soaking wet coats on and hoofing the ground. 5 days later they are still there'

'I DO NOT beat/kick the c..p out my horse if I feel they are not going fast enough for me or take them out in rush in the dark holding up traffic,sadly these are the actions of the said horse owners who I have seen on many occasions, I have also on many occasions untangled the ponies tethered up so they can get to eat & drink'

'I too have seen what you have stated and reported this but no one listens.They all seem to be scared of the family you refer to!
I know for a fact that the Police receive many complaints'


'Mr Stanley must have forgotten the time he tethered a stunning young horse on the top of Kinson Common that died the most painful of deaths with a broken neck whilst being tethered I , on the other hand have never forgotten'

'I too know the family ans have lived in the road where they keep only a fraction of thise horses they have grazing in cuckoo, millhams, wakely and redhill fields. I have taken water and food being a horse owner myself - to these animals in the height of heat of the day in summer where buckets were found bone dry. ..........Also a mare on a busy road on a strip of grass on a service road- this happens many a time and their toileting is left to prove - the horse was tethered to a tree and left on such a short chain - it was on the ground trying to get up it fell back to the floor!! And it had fallen off the embankment to the busy roads!'

'I have also seen them beaten if the horse is scared & not doing what they want'

NOW WHO DO I BELIEVE? All the people posting or the 1 person who says they are great neighbours and just misunderstood? HMMMMM.......that's a toughy.

CENSORSHIP! Unbelievable Echo, why censor opinion? I did not propose anything awful, just splu stated what many people seem to feel when gypsies are discussed.

Anybody who does not contribute financially (or otherwise) to society are parasites by definition. The time for political correctness has long passed and we the public and press must be allowed to express opinions, particularly broadly representative of the majority, openly and without censorship. The truth is that I suspect there is nobody who wants a gathering of gypsies living next door or nearby on land yet the Echo doesn't want what are certainly the opinions of the majority expressed in its comments section. I strongly suspect that the mist liberal of speakers would secretly harbour the same feelings and never want gypsies camped near to them as they also know the reality but simply like a discourse based around a romantic idealism that has no connection to reality.

Have you forgotten you are a news paper that is supposed to help give voice to the people? With unreasonable censorship you risk becoming irrelevant.

Lets see how long this post lasts.

I have contacted the RSPCA this morning and they are not interested even though I said there is possible neglect and cruelty involved!

scrumpyjack wrote:

Dibbles2 wrote:

chris100 wrote:
one night i was drivng down poole lane and 2 horses were walking around on the road i stayed there to make sure no one hit them and rung the police who did nothing they didnt even come out even thou they could have caused a serious accident it was lucky that a passing car knew the owners and whet and told them

I have come across similar situation in Poole lane but to be fair the police did turn up. They have to prioritise at the end of the day. Oh and the parasites others are referring to have 2 very well educated children. People are so fickle and quick to judge nowadays that its no wonder Bournemouth has a reputation for miserable people! I lived 2 doors away from a traveller family who were excellent neighbours and when they moved their new neighbours were sent letters by Bournemouth Council asking them to grass them up if they had any problems! Needless to day the neighbours did at every opprotunity for what they would otherwise have tolerated from a non traveller family. WTF was that about!

'Is this the same Stanleys that lived in South Kinson Drive and kept a horse in the house. You can tell their house in Wimborne Road by all the junk and clutter in the front garden,looks a real tip'


'Give a thought for the neighbours who have to put up with this lot living by them'

'I saw one poor elderly lady who missed being trampled by inches as they rounded the corner at the Lloyds Bank cash machine.'

'I saw these horses on Sunday and they were distressed, with soaking wet coats on and hoofing the ground. 5 days later they are still there'

'I DO NOT beat/kick the c..p out my horse if I feel they are not going fast enough for me or take them out in rush in the dark holding up traffic,sadly these are the actions of the said horse owners who I have seen on many occasions, I have also on many occasions untangled the ponies tethered up so they can get to eat & drink'

'I too have seen what you have stated and reported this but no one listens.They all seem to be scared of the family you refer to!
I know for a fact that the Police receive many complaints'


'Mr Stanley must have forgotten the time he tethered a stunning young horse on the top of Kinson Common that died the most painful of deaths with a broken neck whilst being tethered I , on the other hand have never forgotten'

'I too know the family ans have lived in the road where they keep only a fraction of thise horses they have grazing in cuckoo, millhams, wakely and redhill fields. I have taken water and food being a horse owner myself - to these animals in the height of heat of the day in summer where buckets were found bone dry. ..........Also a mare on a busy road on a strip of grass on a service road- this happens many a time and their toileting is left to prove - the horse was tethered to a tree and left on such a short chain - it was on the ground trying to get up it fell back to the floor!! And it had fallen off the embankment to the busy roads!'

'I have also seen them beaten if the horse is scared & not doing what they want'

NOW WHO DO I BELIEVE? All the people posting or the 1 person who says they are great neighbours and just misunderstood? HMMMMM.......that's a toughy.

Its not about believing anybody really is it. Unless your 5 years old. I stated a fact and they wre good neighbours. I dont think you are referring to the same family as I am by any means. Dont tar everyone with the same brush is what I said. One of those well educated children is now a teacher!

I was not talking about Mr Stanley. Calling all travellers names because of what Mr Stanley may or may not have done is not fair on others. I know a fat 30 year blonde with a mouth like a sewer but it doesnt mean all fat 30 year old blondes are the same. Its pretty immature in my book to assume they are.

I am not condoning the actions of the 'Stanley family'. On the contrary, I agree whole-heartedly with nearly all the comments printed regarding their behaviour and treatment of their animals. However... I would like to set the record straight on the 'owner' of these ponies, as it isn't Mr Stanley, but in fact, his eldest son. Mr Stanley is too ill to look after these animals. And whilst many of you will still probably hold him accountable, 'naming & shaming' the wrong person does seem a little unjust.
And I do agree with a previous comment, that tarring all owners with tethered horses, with the same brush, shows ignorance. I'm sure real 'travellers' are rendered speechless by the insult of the Stanleys referring to themselves as 'travellers'. Whether we agree with tethering or not, its their way.
I don't want to get into the whys and wherefores. I really just wanted to get the 'owner issue' off my chest.

jogonjon wrote:
I am not condoning the actions of the 'Stanley family'. On the contrary, I agree whole-heartedly with nearly all the comments printed regarding their behaviour and treatment of their animals. However... I would like to set the record straight on the 'owner' of these ponies, as it isn't Mr Stanley, but in fact, his eldest son. Mr Stanley is too ill to look after these animals. And whilst many of you will still probably hold him accountable, 'naming & shaming' the wrong person does seem a little unjust.
And I do agree with a previous comment, that tarring all owners with tethered horses, with the same brush, shows ignorance. I'm sure real 'travellers' are rendered speechless by the insult of the Stanleys referring to themselves as 'travellers'. Whether we agree with tethering or not, its their way.
I don't want to get into the whys and wherefores. I really just wanted to get the 'owner issue' off my chest.

So Chris Stanley is the eldest son?

No Chris Stanley is not the eldest son, he's the eldest son's father.
I was rambling a bit, so sorry if I didn't make it clear.

jogonjon wrote:
No Chris Stanley is not the eldest son, he's the eldest son's father.
I was rambling a bit, so sorry if I didn't make it clear.

Well I suggest you read the story above which says that Chris Stanley is the owner and has had horses for 35 years!