A year after OAP drove onto high-speed railway line, the wait for new signs goes on

A year after OAP drove onto high-speed railway line, the wait for new signs goes on

A year after OAP drove onto high-speed railway line, the wait for new signs goes on

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IT was a disastrous error that could have led to tragedy.

An 85-year-old motorist was half-way across a level crossing when she suddenly veered off the road and along a high-speed railway line, narrowly missing the live rail and halting trains.

But highway chiefs have taken a year to devise a scheme aimed at preventing anything similar happening again.

Campaigners have condemned the delays surrounding the project, which includes new road signs either side of the barrier-controlled crossing at Brockenhurst station.

Denis Fryer, of the South Hampshire Rail Users’ Group, said: “It’s very poor.

“The risks attached to any incident involving an electrified rail are huge.

“The county council seems to have taken an awfully long time to address something that should have been dealt with pretty quickly.”

The incident happened a year ago today. A New Milton pensioner was giving her 20-year-old grandson a lift when she mistook the line for the entrance to the station car park.

Instead of stopping or reversing, she drove 80 yards up the track and ended up on a set of points near the end of platform two.

She and her grandson escaped unhurt after rail employees quickly switched off the power.

Network Rail said trains were in no danger because the crossing barriers were up, which meant all the signals in the area were on red.

The gran was reported for careless driving, but British Transport Police dropped the case after she handed in her licence.

The proposed new directional signs aim to prevent anyone else making the same error.

Parish council chairman Russell Horne welcomed the scheme, but called for the inclusion of a “non-standard” sign highlighting the position of the track.

“At the moment there’s nothing to indicate that there’s a railway there,” he said.

Cllr Horne defended the time taken to implement the measures.

He said: “It’s always a lot better when things are done more speedily, but the county council has had to carry out a proper process of consultation and consideration.”

A Network Rail spokesman said: “What happened at Brockenhurst was incredibly unusual. It’s not the sort of thing we see every day.”

South West Trains declined to comment.

What the county council says

Councillor Mel Kendal, deputy leader and executive member for environment and transport, said: “Immediately following the incident the county council, as the highway authority, carried out a preliminary assessment and concluded that signage was not a significant causal factor in this case.

“Because the incident took place on the railway, Network Rail undertook a detailed review and our highways engineers were happy to provide their input.

“Once the review was largely complete, our initial view was there was nothing to change our preliminary conclusion about signage but we did think it was appropriate to refresh the signing in the area. Some early proposals were prepared and have been discussed with the parish council.

“Following comments received from them, we are currently in discussion with the Department for Transport to see if we are able to accommodate a request for signs which ordinarily would not be compliant with the Department’s standards and regulations.”

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4:02pm Mon 28 Jan 13

P Barker says...

One confused person who wasnt safe on the road, so are signs really needed ?.
One confused person who wasnt safe on the road, so are signs really needed ?. P Barker
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4:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13

BIGTONE says...

The sign man cometh.
The sign man cometh. BIGTONE
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4:38pm Mon 28 Jan 13

ben111 says...

Its insane how we have to save people from them selves
Its insane how we have to save people from them selves ben111
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4:40pm Mon 28 Jan 13

mookie44 says...

A one word sign will do

"THINK"

Would save on costs as well.
A one word sign will do "THINK" Would save on costs as well. mookie44
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5:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13

muscliffman says...

To be fair anyone driving a vehicle should not need a sign to instruct them NOT to drive a fair distance along an electrifield (or any) railway line.

"council chairman Russell Horne welcomed the scheme, but called for the inclusion of a “non-standard” sign highlighting the position of the track.

“At the moment there’s nothing to indicate that there’s a railway there,” he said."

Well apart from the railway tracks, sleepers, electric conductor rail, ballast, regular trains and a complete lack of tarmac that is. Where do these Councillors come from?

I think withdrawing this poor confused motorist's driving licence was probably the only action that was needed - did that happen though?
To be fair anyone driving a vehicle should not need a sign to instruct them NOT to drive a fair distance along an electrifield (or any) railway line. "council chairman Russell Horne welcomed the scheme, but called for the inclusion of a “non-standard” sign highlighting the position of the track. “At the moment there’s nothing to indicate that there’s a railway there,” he said." Well apart from the railway tracks, sleepers, electric conductor rail, ballast, regular trains and a complete lack of tarmac that is. Where do these Councillors come from? I think withdrawing this poor confused motorist's driving licence was probably the only action that was needed - did that happen though? muscliffman
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5:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13

PokesdownMark says...

What we need are some safe traps for drivers like this. Places that look just a tiny little bit like entrances to car parks but are filled with deep gravel and trigger an alarm in nearby police cars. Jobs a good 'un. I'm semi serious.
What we need are some safe traps for drivers like this. Places that look just a tiny little bit like entrances to car parks but are filled with deep gravel and trigger an alarm in nearby police cars. Jobs a good 'un. I'm semi serious. PokesdownMark
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6:36pm Mon 28 Jan 13

nobbjockie says...

I'm not be funny but WTF!!!
I'm not be funny but WTF!!! nobbjockie
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6:52pm Mon 28 Jan 13

retry69 says...

Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!!
Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!! retry69
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7:08pm Mon 28 Jan 13

nobbjockie says...

nobbjockie wrote:
I'm not be funny but WTF!!!
Can you imagine what could have happened if there had been a Nissan Micra coming up from Christchurch!
[quote][p][bold]nobbjockie[/bold] wrote: I'm not be funny but WTF!!![/p][/quote]Can you imagine what could have happened if there had been a Nissan Micra coming up from Christchurch! nobbjockie
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7:59pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Trifid says...

retry69 wrote:
Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!!
More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!![/p][/quote]More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry. Trifid
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8:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13

PokesdownMark says...

Retest everyone every 10 years or when/if they rack up 9 points. Simples.
Retest everyone every 10 years or when/if they rack up 9 points. Simples. PokesdownMark
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9:40pm Mon 28 Jan 13

retry69 says...

Trifid wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!!
More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.
Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all.
[quote][p][bold]Trifid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!![/p][/quote]More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.[/p][/quote]Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all. retry69
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11:44pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Old Harry says...

retry69 wrote:
Trifid wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!!
More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.
Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all.
Each demographic group has it's own share of bad/incompetent/reck
less drivers. Until we see appropriately severe sentences for those found guilty of such offences the incidence of such behavior will continue to increase.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trifid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!![/p][/quote]More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.[/p][/quote]Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]Each demographic group has it's own share of bad/incompetent/reck less drivers. Until we see appropriately severe sentences for those found guilty of such offences the incidence of such behavior will continue to increase. Old Harry
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11:49pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Cosmic Crusader says...

muscliffman wrote:
To be fair anyone driving a vehicle should not need a sign to instruct them NOT to drive a fair distance along an electrifield (or any) railway line.

"council chairman Russell Horne welcomed the scheme, but called for the inclusion of a “non-standard” sign highlighting the position of the track.

“At the moment there’s nothing to indicate that there’s a railway there,” he said."

Well apart from the railway tracks, sleepers, electric conductor rail, ballast, regular trains and a complete lack of tarmac that is. Where do these Councillors come from?

I think withdrawing this poor confused motorist's driving licence was probably the only action that was needed - did that happen though?
Tne council chairman must be blind. Take a look at the location on Google, https://maps.google.
co.uk/maps?ll=50.817
632,-1.572058&spn=0.
000003,0.002411&t=h&
z=19&layer=c&cbll=50
.817632,-1.572058&pa
noid=-1q0ZhEMFyt9oIL
0mMoBfA&cbp=12,262.0
1,,0,13.72 Nothing could be clearer.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: To be fair anyone driving a vehicle should not need a sign to instruct them NOT to drive a fair distance along an electrifield (or any) railway line. "council chairman Russell Horne welcomed the scheme, but called for the inclusion of a “non-standard” sign highlighting the position of the track. “At the moment there’s nothing to indicate that there’s a railway there,” he said." Well apart from the railway tracks, sleepers, electric conductor rail, ballast, regular trains and a complete lack of tarmac that is. Where do these Councillors come from? I think withdrawing this poor confused motorist's driving licence was probably the only action that was needed - did that happen though?[/p][/quote]Tne council chairman must be blind. Take a look at the location on Google, https://maps.google. co.uk/maps?ll=50.817 632,-1.572058&spn=0. 000003,0.002411&t=h& z=19&layer=c&cbll=50 .817632,-1.572058&pa noid=-1q0ZhEMFyt9oIL 0mMoBfA&cbp=12,262.0 1,,0,13.72 Nothing could be clearer. Cosmic Crusader
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6:38am Tue 29 Jan 13

retry69 says...

Old Harry wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Trifid wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!!
More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.
Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all.
Each demographic group has it's own share of bad/incompetent/reck

less drivers. Until we see appropriately severe sentences for those found guilty of such offences the incidence of such behavior will continue to increase.
Severe sentences will not reduce incompetence and inappropriate driving behaviour, the young drivers dont care and the older ones dont realise they are in the wrong half the time
[quote][p][bold]Old Harry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trifid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Urgent need for re-tests and awareness assessments for over 50s SORRY!!![/p][/quote]More than willing, if same goes for under 50s. Not sorry.[/p][/quote]Well obviously that would come but there needs to be a starting point and starting at the 50s and over would greatly reduce the number of cars on the roads because the majority would fail, therefore reduced incidents and more importantly near misses, end result safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]Each demographic group has it's own share of bad/incompetent/reck less drivers. Until we see appropriately severe sentences for those found guilty of such offences the incidence of such behavior will continue to increase.[/p][/quote]Severe sentences will not reduce incompetence and inappropriate driving behaviour, the young drivers dont care and the older ones dont realise they are in the wrong half the time retry69
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