UPDATED: Wrecking spree at Poole cemetery: "We've never seen anything like it" (From Bournemouth Echo)
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UPDATED: Wrecking spree at Poole cemetery: "We've never seen anything like it"
8:00am Monday 28th January 2013 in News By Andy Martin
SHOCKING: Some of the graves targeted by vandals at Poole cemetery
SICK vandals have smashed 25 graves in a wrecking spree at a Poole cemetery.
They struck at the Dorchester Road site on Friday night or early hours of the following morning.
Devastated family members were shocked to find the damage on Saturday.
Headstones were pushed and kicked over, some were broken and items such as floral displays and little wooden crosses for the recently deceased were thrown around and trampled on.
Among the desecrated graves was that of a six-month-old boy who died eight years ago.
His mum, who did not want to be identified, told the Echo: “It’s absolutely devastating. The people who did this have no idea what they have done to the families affected.”
She said: “We were called by friends and we walked straight up there. It was a terrible scene.
“An elderly man was already at his wife’s graveside, absolutely distraught at the damage.
“There was another lady who was in bits. She said she didn’t have the money to replace her husband’s headstone.
“The people who have done this must be made to realise what they have done.”
Jim Harris discovered the gravestone of his wife of 50 years, Sylvia, pushed over when he went to pay his respects on Saturday morning.
The 71-year-old, from the Waterloo Estate in Poole, found the toppled stone had smashed flower pots and ornamental meerkats placed on the grave by the family.
“It is utterly disgusting, these people don’t know the meaning of respect,” he said.
“But they will probably just get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again, it would be a bit different if I got my hands on them.”
His son Robert, 40, added: “They deserve to be locked up and the key thrown away, you can’t get any lower than this.”
Council officials and local masons were at the cemetery over the weekend trying to put things back in order and police are investigating.
The group of stonemasons righting headstones and carrying out repairs at the cemetery on Sunday morning said they had never seen anything like it.
Matt Williams, of Williams Monumental Company, said it would have taken a group of vandals several hours to cause the amount of damage they found.
“This isn’t something a group of 15-year-olds could do, even the stones without ground anchors are extremely heavy,” he said.
“But whoever did it really worked on them and it must have taken some time, we have never seen anything like it.
“Of course, headstones aren’t cheap and they can’t really be repaired, so it is lucky that most of them haven’t been permanently damaged.”
Mr Williams said council officials will have to carry out ‘topple-tests’ on headstones around the cemetery to ensure they haven’t been loosened.
A second mason, John Knowles of Art Memorial, added: “We are lucky so many of these newer graves are fitted with ground anchors, so although the vandals have had a good go at it they haven’t been able to topple them completely over.”
A spokesman for Dorset police said the vandalism was reported on Saturday morning by a family member.
“They had been visiting their relative’s grave and saw it had been damaged and then realised a number of others had too.”
She added: “Several headstones had been pushed over and some seem to have been pushed with such a force that they have broken.”
Officers are appealing for witnesses or anyone with information to come forward by calling 101 or the Crimestoppers number 0800 555 111.
The spokesman added: “This is needless behaviour which has caused untold upset to the families affected. We will do all we can to catch those who did this.”
"It's evil"
ANOTHER family shocked by the heartbreaking scene on Sunday morning were Jean Humphries and her son Gary, whose brother’s grave was dismantled and scattered.
Mrs Humphries’ 25-year-old son Wayne took his own life 11 years ago, and the family visit his grave twice a week to keep it clean and pay their respects.
Gary Humphries said: “The whole family were going to come up today, but thankfully dad couldn’t come because it is too cold for him, he wouldn’t have got over seeing this.
“At first we thought it was just my brother’s grave which was attacked, as it is the only one in this part of the cemetery.
“They obviously targeted the newer graves, the ones where people have died more recently.”
His mother added: “I couldn’t have been more shocked and hurt when I got out of the car if someone had thrown a dart at me. There are some evil people around.
“This would have finished off my husband, he is not very well and he found my son when he died.”
"It's so disrespectful"
Bus driver Mark Hill had just got back from Florida when he found his partner’s headstone knocked into the mud on Saturday afternoon.
Mr Hill, 49, was together with Raymond Lloyd for 14 years until his death from a long-term heart condition in September last year.
He had taken the holiday, on the advice of a friend, to try and move on after Mr Lloyd’s death and said discovering the grave felt like his partner had been beaten up.
“When I got out of the car and saw the mess I thought it was just his grave which had been targeted, I was so upset I didn’t even notice all the others pushed over,” he said.
“I’m proud of his memorial and feel very hurt by this, it’s like someone’s beaten him up. There were some police up here, and they were very good and gave me a lot of support, I was a mess.
“It’s lucky I put artificial flowers on the grave, because I was going to America and wouldn’t be able to replace them, and the headstone fell on to them and wasn’t damaged.”
Mr Hill, who lives in Parkstone, said shortly after finding the damage he spoke to a bereaved mother who had only been able to afford a plaque for her son’s grave, and had seen this vandalised in the spree.
“Whoever did this obviously haven’t lost anyone close to them, or there is something wrong with them, it’s just so disrespectful,”he said.
Comments(83)
Buddles
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11:27am Sun 27 Jan 13
I daresay if the vandals are caught they will get "soft" justice, the usual claptrap if they were drunk or on drugs posing as mitigating circumstances by their defence teams.
Enough! I think a suitable punishment would be to take a leaf out of Singaporean justice and a sentence of judicial caning would suffice, these people are vermin.
bbird
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11:29am Sun 27 Jan 13
MMM444
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11:34am Sun 27 Jan 13
rayc
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11:57am Sun 27 Jan 13
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/magazine-21041
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Is it because people are so used to vandalism that they no longer bother reporting it to the authorities or is it deeper than that?
II would like Dorset Police to adopt a No Excuse strategy to vandalism and anti social behavior. I suspect though that there will be an excuse that cut backs and budget savings prevent adequate resources being given to it.
TheDistrict
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12:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13
nigglygrilly
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12:36pm Sun 27 Jan 13
My prayer is that those who are affected by these cruel actions will be able to replace the headstones and restore the graves to the way they were,
TD61
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1:02pm Sun 27 Jan 13
I have family graves up there, so will have to go and check them, which is inconvenient as I was only there on Thursday and had planned to spend today with my grandchildren - but then the scum who did this won't care about that ......... and I'm not even sure they care about anything in this world apart from themselves :o/
I just fail to see what they get out of such vandalism? I bet they would feel differently if their property was trashed though!!
Richard Head
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1:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13
This country, which was once great, is now finished thanks to these low life inhabitants who have no respect for people or their possessions.
It won't be long before they start bragging to their pals about it. Let's hope these pals speak up.
cycletourer
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1:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13
mikeba
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1:51pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Buddles wrote:Fully agree .. having lived in Singapore it shows just how good a deterrent stiff justice can be. We only have to look, closer to home, at how the removal of the birch in the Isle of Man (by the European Court of Human Rights) has led to increased petty and anti social crime!!!
How distressing for the families of the dead.
I daresay if the vandals are caught they will get "soft" justice, the usual claptrap if they were drunk or on drugs posing as mitigating circumstances by their defence teams.
Enough! I think a suitable punishment would be to take a leaf out of Singaporean justice and a sentence of judicial caning would suffice, these people are vermin.
ekimnoslen
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1:52pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining.
YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame.
spooki
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1:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13
ekimnoslen wrote:WHAT? How dare you. I speak for the majority I hope when I say no I am not to blame for someone elses idiocy and selfishness. I have always been one of those kids who said 'I'm bored' when growing up. Do you know what I did? Go out, wreck someone else's property for fun? Go and get drunk/stoned/arreste
Mindless morons, a product of our liberal, "thou shall not punish wrong doers just right them a stiff letter", human rights orientated society.
Society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining.
YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame.
d? No. I got off my rear and found something constructive to do. That's what most people will do. Unfortunatly there are people,out there who think 'fun' is doing something thoughtless and upsetting other people. With comments like yours, I'm more inclined to blame YOU.
spooki
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2:04pm Sun 27 Jan 13
rayc
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2:31pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Talk of democracy and being able to change things at a ballot box is just that - talk.
mikeba
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2:41pm Sun 27 Jan 13
rayc wrote:Correct .. as is everything else they do .. just talk
The average person in the street has absolutely no influence over decisions taken by the, European union, Governments Central and Local, or Police Services.
Talk of democracy and being able to change things at a ballot box is just that - talk.
mark and Ray
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3:49pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Ebb Tide
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5:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13
mark and Ray wrote:It takes all sorts to form a community. Some have no useful role other than to act as a warning to the rest of us : warnings we ignore at our peril.
As i am one of the people affected by this mindless terrible crime i can not get my head round what goes through people minds when the are commiting such awful acts not only has it effected me emotionally as my partner only died 4 months ago and grave stone only been there for just over 2 months but i feel is a personal attack to my dead partner almost as if he were attacked in the street and now in hospital i really do hope someone some where can tell the police who is responsible because one day those same people will be like me and many others going to the cemetry visiting our loved ones
The act of desecration you have experienced is a warning that our methods of bringing up children are not fit for purpose : too many rules and not enough examples ??
However some bad apples don't mean the whole crop is bad and hopefully, this time, the police (with the help of witnesses) will get the leads that they need to bring the perpetrators to justice and a real understanding of the unnecessary grief they have now brought to those that have already experienced too much pain.
Understanding of and respect for the needs of others is obviously too difficult for some who must therefore be identified and positively "trained", hopefully in the community that knows what it is that the culprits did !!
Letcommonsenseprevail
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5:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Carolyn43
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6:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13
......
Absolutely sickening.
tricky1007
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6:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Hobad1
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6:37pm Sun 27 Jan 13
ifordcherry wrote:I don't think i have ever agreed more with a post. Well said.
The parents of these sick evil narrow minded fools should be marched through the town along with the perpertrators of this despicable act .Let them be seen with their trash offspring and allow all of us to see these wonderful humans(not)...If given the chance i will willingly kick these fools with the force or more that they dealt to the sacred headstones that could not kick them back...Lets hope in Karma "what goes around comes around"...May something nasty happen to each and everyone involved in this !!
rich53
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6:49pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Dr Stephen R Covey
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7:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13
tricky1007 wrote:Great idea let us show the imbeciles what 'community' is about! Count me in.
Come on Echo start up a campaign to help those who can not afford to replace anything that is broken, i will happily give a tenner, as i am sure others would
wayneofafcb
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8:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Whilst finances are tight, i question both the cost in pounds and in lack of care, that private contractors bring to the maintenance service.
I think that the likely savings are nothing. But the service provided to the memory of the deceased is priceless. About time to bring back a proper warden.
tisdarcy
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9:25pm Sun 27 Jan 13
Ashleyafcb
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9:38pm Sun 27 Jan 13
manyogie
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10:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13
spooki wrote:Nope, the original comments correct, we sit around tutting at what's wrong with this country, and do nothing.
ekimnoslen wrote:WHAT? How dare you. I speak for the majority I hope when I say no I am not to blame for someone elses idiocy and selfishness. I have always been one of those kids who said 'I'm bored' when growing up. Do you know what I did? Go out, wreck someone else's property for fun? Go and get drunk/stoned/arreste
Mindless morons, a product of our liberal, "thou shall not punish wrong doers just right them a stiff letter", human rights orientated society.
Society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining.
YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame.
d? No. I got off my rear and found something constructive to do. That's what most people will do. Unfortunatly there are people,out there who think 'fun' is doing something thoughtless and upsetting other people. With comments like yours, I'm more inclined to blame YOU.
Its past time we stood up, and demanded a return to justice, a return to fairness, and stopped this headlong sleepwalk into anarchy.
BIGTONE
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4:21am Mon 28 Jan 13
They must have got bored terrorising people on street corners and looked for something "new" to do.
Still,if they are caught.they will get a stiff talking to.
Can't upset them now can we?
goatty
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7:29am Mon 28 Jan 13
I have said so many times we need harsh deterrents in this country, just like Singapore has. Harsh punishments will not concern law abiding citizens. The only people afraid of them are the criminals and yobs who unfortunately we seem to worry about more than the victims.
Its about time to tell the EU where to go and to stick their Human Rights Act, as this was the start of the breakdown of respect and morals in society.
nobbjockie
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8:02am Mon 28 Jan 13
Dont drop litter
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8:57am Mon 28 Jan 13
TD61 wrote:There's absolutely no point in trying to blame the Council for this. If people had more respect for people and property there would be no need for Cemetary Wardens.
This is what happens when the good old council do away with cemetery wardens. If someone lived on site as they used to do, this sort of behaviour would either not happen, or could be stopped fairly quickly.
I have family graves up there, so will have to go and check them, which is inconvenient as I was only there on Thursday and had planned to spend today with my grandchildren - but then the scum who did this won't care about that ......... and I'm not even sure they care about anything in this world apart from themselves :o/
I just fail to see what they get out of such vandalism? I bet they would feel differently if their property was trashed though!!
Now, I realise that we don't live in an ideal world, but there is no one to blame here except whoever did this and the people who brought them up.
Its easy to blame the Council or the Governement, but people have their own brains - they need to start using them.
Dont drop litter
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9:00am Mon 28 Jan 13
mikeba wrote:This has nothing to do with the Governement - any Governement! do you think that the people who did this pay attention to Politics? I doubt it.
rayc wrote:Correct .. as is everything else they do .. just talk
The average person in the street has absolutely no influence over decisions taken by the, European union, Governments Central and Local, or Police Services.
Talk of democracy and being able to change things at a ballot box is just that - talk.
This has to do with a lack of respect and a lack of education - and I don't mean at School - I mean the kind of education you receive at home.
rayc
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9:24am Mon 28 Jan 13
ekimnoslen wrote:This was posted in response to the post which said "society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining. YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame".
Mindless morons, a product of our liberal, "thou shall not punish wrong doers just right them a stiff letter", human rights orientated society.
Society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining.
YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame.
I am not to blame as I repeat what I said "the average person in the street etc."
PooleParky
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9:28am Mon 28 Jan 13
TeamGBrave
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11:10am Mon 28 Jan 13
Carolyn43 wrote:I've seen a few posts assuming that youths were responsible for this. There's no evidence that was the case and the stonemason actually stated "this isn't something a group of 15-year-olds could do". Some young people are scum, but so too are some adults. But whoever has done this should be lynched.
Listen to youngsters talking and those who have access, keep a look out on twitter and facebook - these morons are bound to be bragging about what they did. ...... Absolutely sickening.
suzigirl
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11:18am Mon 28 Jan 13
rich53 wrote:Would not bother as the scum bags relatives probably can't read or write - I can see their parents now - sitting on their sofas smoking, guggling a can of cheap lager watching Jeremy Kyle!
If you are reading this and you know who did it even if it's a relation tell the plod!!
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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11:53am Mon 28 Jan 13
jacko225
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12:25pm Mon 28 Jan 13
bbird wrote:Am I missing something? I can't seem to see anything in that article that suggests it was youths - in fact, I see something suggests OTHERWISE...
Youths attacking snow gritter, throwing stones & rocks concealed as snow balls at passing cars, now attacking graves. All in a week's work
"Matt Williams, of Williams Monumental Company, said it would have taken a group of vandals several hours to cause the amount of damage they found.
“This isn’t something a group of 15-year-olds could do, even the stones without ground anchors are extremely heavy,” he said."
Maybe think before you go around accusing people of something there's no evidence for.
On topic... disgusting act from whoever did this. Hope they get rightfully punished - they deserve it!
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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12:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13
jacko225 wrote:I dont care if it was youths or 30 year old drug addicts or 60 year old alcoholics or hey, sociopaths or whatever. I dont care!! You miss the point here, Poole is making headlines for all the wrong reasons. Listen I didnt come on here for a debate, merely venting my anger at such low life immoral unforgiveable behavior!
bbird wrote:Am I missing something? I can't seem to see anything in that article that suggests it was youths - in fact, I see something suggests OTHERWISE...
Youths attacking snow gritter, throwing stones & rocks concealed as snow balls at passing cars, now attacking graves. All in a week's work
"Matt Williams, of Williams Monumental Company, said it would have taken a group of vandals several hours to cause the amount of damage they found.
“This isn’t something a group of 15-year-olds could do, even the stones without ground anchors are extremely heavy,” he said."
Maybe think before you go around accusing people of something there's no evidence for.
On topic... disgusting act from whoever did this. Hope they get rightfully punished - they deserve it!
justme20092009
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12:38pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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12:39pm Mon 28 Jan 13
no one here asked to live in or around such a vile society! we are entitled to expect an end to this savage way of life that we are hearing about day in day out on our very own doorsteps!
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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12:45pm Mon 28 Jan 13
I for one have multiple family members' headstones to go pay my respects to, mother, brother included, just not at said cemetary.
Allow our infuriation!
jacko225
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1:33pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes wrote:I think you missed my point completely.
jacko225 wrote:I dont care if it was youths or 30 year old drug addicts or 60 year old alcoholics or hey, sociopaths or whatever. I dont care!! You miss the point here, Poole is making headlines for all the wrong reasons. Listen I didnt come on here for a debate, merely venting my anger at such low life immoral unforgiveable behavior!
bbird wrote:Am I missing something? I can't seem to see anything in that article that suggests it was youths - in fact, I see something suggests OTHERWISE...
Youths attacking snow gritter, throwing stones & rocks concealed as snow balls at passing cars, now attacking graves. All in a week's work
"Matt Williams, of Williams Monumental Company, said it would have taken a group of vandals several hours to cause the amount of damage they found.
“This isn’t something a group of 15-year-olds could do, even the stones without ground anchors are extremely heavy,” he said."
Maybe think before you go around accusing people of something there's no evidence for.
On topic... disgusting act from whoever did this. Hope they get rightfully punished - they deserve it!
It was against people saying it was youths without evidence. Of course Poole is making headlines for the wrong reasons - but to blame a certain group of people when a) there's no evidence for it and b) it would be a TINY proportion of that group is just stupid.
jacko225
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1:35pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes wrote:You do have a right to express your disgust. Please tell me where I said you couldn't? Ah that's right - I didn't say such a thing.
jacko225 if you feel offended by such freedom of speech responses, then please feel free to run to the echo and tell them to stop publishing anger arousing headlines and stories that rile up us public servants. we have a right to express our disgust!
no one here asked to live in or around such a vile society! we are entitled to expect an end to this savage way of life that we are hearing about day in day out on our very own doorsteps!
I'm not offended by freedom of speech - being a liberal, that would contradict my beliefs. What I am offended by is people accusing and generalising a person/a group of people without any evidence. It happens time and again on this website, and many others, and it isn't fair on people who belong to the accused group who have don't nothing wrong!
coster
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1:37pm Mon 28 Jan 13
May the persons who have carried out this travesty be punished severely.
scrumpyjack
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1:59pm Mon 28 Jan 13
jacko225 wrote:I would consider a 23 year old as part of the "youth today".
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes wrote:You do have a right to express your disgust. Please tell me where I said you couldn't? Ah that's right - I didn't say such a thing.
jacko225 if you feel offended by such freedom of speech responses, then please feel free to run to the echo and tell them to stop publishing anger arousing headlines and stories that rile up us public servants. we have a right to express our disgust!
no one here asked to live in or around such a vile society! we are entitled to expect an end to this savage way of life that we are hearing about day in day out on our very own doorsteps!
I'm not offended by freedom of speech - being a liberal, that would contradict my beliefs. What I am offended by is people accusing and generalising a person/a group of people without any evidence. It happens time and again on this website, and many others, and it isn't fair on people who belong to the accused group who have don't nothing wrong!
GaryFendley
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2:02pm Mon 28 Jan 13
I hope that this haunts them for the rest of their lives.
jacko225
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2:25pm Mon 28 Jan 13
scrumpyjack wrote:How people define "youth" is completely subjective. Doesn't give people the right to say that "oh, because one youth has been arrested they all should be". Happened on the snowball/gritter article as well - not all youths are the same.
jacko225 wrote:I would consider a 23 year old as part of the "youth today".
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes wrote:You do have a right to express your disgust. Please tell me where I said you couldn't? Ah that's right - I didn't say such a thing.
jacko225 if you feel offended by such freedom of speech responses, then please feel free to run to the echo and tell them to stop publishing anger arousing headlines and stories that rile up us public servants. we have a right to express our disgust!
no one here asked to live in or around such a vile society! we are entitled to expect an end to this savage way of life that we are hearing about day in day out on our very own doorsteps!
I'm not offended by freedom of speech - being a liberal, that would contradict my beliefs. What I am offended by is people accusing and generalising a person/a group of people without any evidence. It happens time and again on this website, and many others, and it isn't fair on people who belong to the accused group who have don't nothing wrong!
nobbjockie
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2:38pm Mon 28 Jan 13
scrumpyjack
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2:41pm Mon 28 Jan 13
The sort that bangs about the rights of the child, that it's not their fault it's society, that school is not the place to be punished, rather than sentence and punish we should embrace and understand.
Well we have all seen where that has got us.
geoffro
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3:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Niki1
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3:21pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Phixer
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3:36pm Mon 28 Jan 13
scrumpyjack wrote:Indeed! The Poll Tax would have made them realise who actually has to pay for all this.
People rightly blame parents, but I would also lay a whole heap of blame at the door of self-proclaimed 'liberals'.
The sort that bangs about the rights of the child, that it's not their fault it's society, that school is not the place to be punished, rather than sentence and punish we should embrace and understand.
Well we have all seen where that has got us.
Everything now is some-one elses fault. And its us taxpayers that have to clear it up.
dvdr
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5:08pm Mon 28 Jan 13
What can be in the mind(s) (if mind(s) there be) of the person or persons who would do this? What could they possibly get out of it?
My view is that if identified, charged, and convicted, he (probably not she) or they need not merely dramatic punishment, but more importantly, treatment, preferably in a confined environment, and for a considerable time.
Sadly, I do not think that present UK laws allow convicted perpetrators to be chained up (and together if there be several) and left in the cemetery for a few days and nights to allow him/them to think about what he/they have done.
Who loses by such vandalism? We, the community in general.
Who gains? Nobody.
KLH
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5:52pm Mon 28 Jan 13
goatty
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6:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Dont drop litter
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7:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Phixer wrote:Spot-on. It's good to hear that someone else in this country understands that the best way to make everyone contribute towards society was to make EVERYONE pay.
scrumpyjack wrote:Indeed! The Poll Tax would have made them realise who actually has to pay for all this.
People rightly blame parents, but I would also lay a whole heap of blame at the door of self-proclaimed 'liberals'.
The sort that bangs about the rights of the child, that it's not their fault it's society, that school is not the place to be punished, rather than sentence and punish we should embrace and understand.
Well we have all seen where that has got us.
Everything now is some-one elses fault. And its us taxpayers that have to clear it up.
If everyone over 18 was paying their way there would be a lot less of this sort of thing once the penny dropped that the more property got damaged and spoiled that the repair costs come straight fro.m their pockets.
guisselle
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7:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Mother's step-mother is buried here
Emily Elizabeth Churchhouse buried
in 1940s I believe. Always was a bit of
trouble there with the kids round the
corner.
Dont drop litter
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7:12pm Mon 28 Jan 13
TeamGBrave wrote:It seems that you're wrong - and we were right.
Carolyn43 wrote:I've seen a few posts assuming that youths were responsible for this. There's no evidence that was the case and the stonemason actually stated "this isn't something a group of 15-year-olds could do". Some young people are scum, but so too are some adults. But whoever has done this should be lynched.
Listen to youngsters talking and those who have access, keep a look out on twitter and facebook - these morons are bound to be bragging about what they did. ...... Absolutely sickening.
Dont drop litter
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7:18pm Mon 28 Jan 13
jacko225 wrote:well it looks like they have someone in custody and guess what - he's only 23.
Bournesouthmouth Downpokes wrote:You do have a right to express your disgust. Please tell me where I said you couldn't? Ah that's right - I didn't say such a thing.
jacko225 if you feel offended by such freedom of speech responses, then please feel free to run to the echo and tell them to stop publishing anger arousing headlines and stories that rile up us public servants. we have a right to express our disgust!
no one here asked to live in or around such a vile society! we are entitled to expect an end to this savage way of life that we are hearing about day in day out on our very own doorsteps!
I'm not offended by freedom of speech - being a liberal, that would contradict my beliefs. What I am offended by is people accusing and generalising a person/a group of people without any evidence. It happens time and again on this website, and many others, and it isn't fair on people who belong to the accused group who have don't nothing wrong!
In terms of punishment what would you suggest? a quiet chat with a nice cup of tea to discuss his problems and to try and understand why he did it? or, dress him in a pink boiler suit whilst he picks up chewing gum off the pavement in front of the whole town?
guisselle
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7:34pm Mon 28 Jan 13
guisselle wrote:Sorry its not kids but a young "adult"
Goodness me this is a travesty! My
Mother's step-mother is buried here
Emily Elizabeth Churchhouse buried
in 1940s I believe. Always was a bit of
trouble there with the kids round the
corner.
who did this.
Buddles
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7:45pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Monetary fines and "community service" and mealy-mouthed apologies to the affected, don't work. Being strapped to an A-frame and given a few strokes of the rattan would make them think twice and send out an example to other vandals and miscreants.
Out of interest I looked at the 2010 Conservative manifesto......quite a lot of ideas for crime and justice but hardly implemented because we have a coalition. The Liberal Democrat manifesto barely warranted a paragraph on crime and justice, just some yoghurt-knitting waffle.
Don't worry goatty, I agree with you! The "give 'em a chance and rehabilitation" is clearly not working.
When I was younger I used to get up to high jinks but there was always that 'Nooooo, we might get nicked' or 'No way, that's wrong' or 'Shhhhh! You'll wake the neighbours!'. Even though we were young there was always that element of "wrong", now they just don't care about getting nicked or upsetting others because there is no proper punishment.
Pezza1040
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8:35pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Wilkie
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11:23pm Mon 28 Jan 13
gottafly
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11:58pm Mon 28 Jan 13
It was awful, grown men and families sobbing as they arrived and found the damage. I would say at least more than 50 were damaged from what i eventually saw - even some old stone crosses pushed over, although most of the ones targeted were new memorials, and oh so painful, as the pain is still so fresh.
I pray this man the police have is the one and that we can maybe rest a bit in hope that this won't happen again.
We need some help and some answers
guisselle
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5:15am Tue 29 Jan 13
Pezza1040 wrote:Lime Close and Fox-holes rd.
Where abouts in poole is this cemetery as there is at least 3 Dorchester roads in Poole.
guisselle
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5:19am Tue 29 Jan 13
guisselle wrote:Oakdale !
Pezza1040 wrote:Lime Close and Fox-holes rd.
Where abouts in poole is this cemetery as there is at least 3 Dorchester roads in Poole.
guisselle
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6:19am Tue 29 Jan 13
guisselle wrote:So sorry for those affected hope
guisselle wrote:Oakdale !
Pezza1040 wrote:Lime Close and Fox-holes rd.
Where abouts in poole is this cemetery as there is at least 3 Dorchester roads in Poole.
the cemetery gets better security.
Wilkie
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7:33am Tue 29 Jan 13
retry69
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8:17am Tue 29 Jan 13
Wilkie wrote:Good point i hope you have sent that directly to the Echo because as you know they do not monitor the site so probably wont see the comment.
Echo, please make sure you stay on top of this story. If the indiividual arrested is the one responsible, then you need to follow the progress of the charging and legal procedure through. I'm sure some on here would like to make representations to the court about the impact is has had on them. For this reason can you please prominently report on the process and advise on dates and the process for writing to the court. This is one that the community as a whole will not want to be forgotten about and then quietly resolved and reported on page 10 in 6 months .
BIGTONE
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8:38am Tue 29 Jan 13
retry69 wrote:They see the comments alright!
Wilkie wrote:Good point i hope you have sent that directly to the Echo because as you know they do not monitor the site so probably wont see the comment.
Echo, please make sure you stay on top of this story. If the indiividual arrested is the one responsible, then you need to follow the progress of the charging and legal procedure through. I'm sure some on here would like to make representations to the court about the impact is has had on them. For this reason can you please prominently report on the process and advise on dates and the process for writing to the court. This is one that the community as a whole will not want to be forgotten about and then quietly resolved and reported on page 10 in 6 months .
retry69
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8:46am Tue 29 Jan 13
BIGTONE wrote:Nope untrue im afraid
retry69 wrote:They see the comments alright!
Wilkie wrote:Good point i hope you have sent that directly to the Echo because as you know they do not monitor the site so probably wont see the comment.
Echo, please make sure you stay on top of this story. If the indiividual arrested is the one responsible, then you need to follow the progress of the charging and legal procedure through. I'm sure some on here would like to make representations to the court about the impact is has had on them. For this reason can you please prominently report on the process and advise on dates and the process for writing to the court. This is one that the community as a whole will not want to be forgotten about and then quietly resolved and reported on page 10 in 6 months .
Wilkie
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9:42am Tue 29 Jan 13
retry69
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9:47am Tue 29 Jan 13
Wilkie wrote:well done and thanks from all
Email sent to the journalist concerned.
guisselle
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11:21am Tue 29 Jan 13
retry69 wrote:I wonder if the perpetrator has learning
Wilkie wrote:well done and thanks from all
Email sent to the journalist concerned.
difficulties or is it drugs? There has
been a history of it going back to the
late 60's 70's I believe.
guisselle
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11:28am Tue 29 Jan 13
guisselle wrote:RIP Emily Elizabeth Anderson nee
guisselle wrote:Sorry its not kids but a young "adult"
Goodness me this is a travesty! My
Mother's step-mother is buried here
Emily Elizabeth Churchhouse buried
in 1940s I believe. Always was a bit of
trouble there with the kids round the
corner.
who did this.
Churchhouse former school teacher
at Hamworthy First school in the 1920's
"30's.My Mum was Hazel Kate Fox died
sadly 2005, My Aunt Alma still alive
and Emily was their step-mum. Our
family home is in Oakdale Shottsford Rd. RIP Stanley Anderson also my
sister Julia Fox.
kingstonpaul
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1:05pm Tue 29 Jan 13
Vicvic
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3:08pm Tue 29 Jan 13
spooki
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5:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13
manyogie wrote:I agree something should be done, not all tutting on sites like this. But I would like to know what happens at schools? When our nice kids are with their friends who come from who knows where & who know what then come home with this new attitude they've 'caught' from spending time with these kids. My little girls at nursery with at least two children from dodgy homes (drug raids, Dom.Violence, etc) and has shown bad behaviour she can only have seen there. That's a two year old in a 3hour session. What about 13 or 15 year olds in the 6ish hours they're at school? What are they learning from teens whose parents perhaps don't give a monkeys where they are or what they're doing? I am trying to do a good job bringing up my child so she doesn't get ideas like this when she's older. What kind of life does a 23 year old (as charged) have to feel the need to go round wrecking graves? Yes we are society but I for one care what happens to my child/teen/future adult.
spooki wrote:Nope, the original comments correct, we sit around tutting at what's wrong with this country, and do nothing.
ekimnoslen wrote:WHAT? How dare you. I speak for the majority I hope when I say no I am not to blame for someone elses idiocy and selfishness. I have always been one of those kids who said 'I'm bored' when growing up. Do you know what I did? Go out, wreck someone else's property for fun? Go and get drunk/stoned/arreste
Mindless morons, a product of our liberal, "thou shall not punish wrong doers just right them a stiff letter", human rights orientated society.
Society now reaps what it sowed, so as to speak, so stop complaining.
YOU ALL are society and YOU are to blame.
d? No. I got off my rear and found something constructive to do. That's what most people will do. Unfortunatly there are people,out there who think 'fun' is doing something thoughtless and upsetting other people. With comments like yours, I'm more inclined to blame YOU.
Its past time we stood up, and demanded a return to justice, a return to fairness, and stopped this headlong sleepwalk into anarchy.
guisselle
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1:34am Wed 30 Jan 13
from the bad attitudes of others. I
expect the teachers find it hard too.
I think philosophy should be taught
in schools how to have empathy for
others!
guisselle
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1:38am Wed 30 Jan 13
dream of professor Brian Cox his
wonders to survey!
shortstuff11
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9:05am Tue 12 Feb 13
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ifordcherry says...
11:20am Sun 27 Jan 13