A31: Bring in 50mph limit now, say campaigners

First published in News

A CAMPAIGN for major improvements, including a reduced 50mph speed limit on the busy A31 at Ringwood, has stepped up a gear as crucial talks progress.

Following calls for urgent action on the busy road from residents members of Ringwood Town Council and New Forest District Council met with Highways Agency representatives before Christmas to discuss how to improve the safety record on the road.

Since the meeting, Highways Agency officers have been working on feasibility issues for many of the suggestions put forward by the councillors and plan to write to members next week, the Agency has confirmed.

A campaign for improvements on the dual carriageway between Picket Post and the Ashley Heath Interchange was launched by Ringwood Town Council last year and signed by 1,000 people.

Measures included cutting the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph, creating a crawler lane for eastbound lorries and installing signs advising drivers to get into the correct lane earlier.

Ringwood town and district councillor, Michael Thierry said: “There are a number of road improvements that they could undertake, but because it is such a major project that could take many, many years.

“However, there are one or two improvements which they could implement slightly earlier.

“The major one they could do almost instantly is the bringing in of a speed reduction to 50mph from Picket Post.

“There was a meeting before Christmas and they did come down and meet with the district and town councils and officers.

“I thought it was a very constructive meeting and one which I felt allowed all parties to bring something to the table in terms of being positive.

“I am always hopeful; we have been campaigning for the A31 for many years and nothing has changed as yet.

“My view is that I would like to see the 50mph brought in immediately.

“The people of Ringwood are making demands for it. It is not as if the town council and councillors are not supported by the town.

“I would like to see the speed reduction implemented and then a consultation taken place on what people have thought about it.”

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12:11pm Fri 25 Jan 13

yourbard says...

An interim measure to help with safety along this stretch of dual-carriageway would be to have it clearly defined by white lines.
An interim measure to help with safety along this stretch of dual-carriageway would be to have it clearly defined by white lines. yourbard
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12:22pm Fri 25 Jan 13

tricky1007 says...

the road where you join from Ringwood onto the A31 is the problem, it was not thought out well, to have a petrol station, and pub not far away, and traffic coming up over the flyover to be greeted by traffic coming out in front of them!
the road where you join from Ringwood onto the A31 is the problem, it was not thought out well, to have a petrol station, and pub not far away, and traffic coming up over the flyover to be greeted by traffic coming out in front of them! tricky1007
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12:39pm Fri 25 Jan 13

BIGTONE says...

Everybody should be issued with a pony.
Everybody should be issued with a pony. BIGTONE
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12:57pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Dorset Logic says...

Im going to drive through the town - it will be quicker. A bit like bournemouth where its quicker if you avoid the wessex way, which was build originally to get people through town quickly.

Its much more fun, thrashing down the side streets.

Society is as soft as .....
Im going to drive through the town - it will be quicker. A bit like bournemouth where its quicker if you avoid the wessex way, which was build originally to get people through town quickly. Its much more fun, thrashing down the side streets. Society is as soft as ..... Dorset Logic
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12:58pm Fri 25 Jan 13

saynomore says...

That will cheer up the "Lead Boot" morons.
That will cheer up the "Lead Boot" morons. saynomore
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1:02pm Fri 25 Jan 13

GaryC67 says...

Perhaps a 50mph limit from the Hightown sliproad westbound but definately not from Picket Post!
The road layout around Ringwood was poorly designed but I can't see them changing that because of the cost.
Perhaps a 50mph limit from the Hightown sliproad westbound but definately not from Picket Post! The road layout around Ringwood was poorly designed but I can't see them changing that because of the cost. GaryC67
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1:04pm Fri 25 Jan 13

palexgo says...

I drove on the A31 for 10 years to work near Southampton. I suspect that most of the accidents on the A31 near Ringwood are caused by drivers inexperienced of the trip when it is busy. On many occasions I found myself behind old people driving as slowly as 30mph! The police should grab the incompetent people driving slowly rather than reduce the rod speed to 50mph.
I drove on the A31 for 10 years to work near Southampton. I suspect that most of the accidents on the A31 near Ringwood are caused by drivers inexperienced of the trip when it is busy. On many occasions I found myself behind old people driving as slowly as 30mph! The police should grab the incompetent people driving slowly rather than reduce the rod speed to 50mph. palexgo
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1:06pm Fri 25 Jan 13

mookie44 says...

Welcome to Dorset "Now Do 50mph"
seems to be the way all the duel carriageways are in the county. Hopefully not this stretch of road in Hampshire
Welcome to Dorset "Now Do 50mph" seems to be the way all the duel carriageways are in the county. Hopefully not this stretch of road in Hampshire mookie44
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1:06pm Fri 25 Jan 13

rayc says...

"Measures included cutting the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph, creating a crawler lane for eastbound lorries and installing signs advising drivers to get into the correct lane earlier."

Which of these three measures will be adopted?
"Measures included cutting the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph, creating a crawler lane for eastbound lorries and installing signs advising drivers to get into the correct lane earlier." Which of these three measures will be adopted? rayc
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1:08pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Can we have some meaningful figures? What will be the benefit of reducing the limit to 50mph? or 40? or 30? or 20? or 10? or banning cars altogether? What is trying to be achieved? Knee-jerking an instand reduction to 50mph seems to be very blinkered...........
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Can we have some meaningful figures? What will be the benefit of reducing the limit to 50mph? or 40? or 30? or 20? or 10? or banning cars altogether? What is trying to be achieved? Knee-jerking an instand reduction to 50mph seems to be very blinkered........... ................... Letcommonsenseprevail
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1:16pm Fri 25 Jan 13

throatwarbler says...

i'd forgotten you can do more 50mph on the A31. When i drive along it after work about 40mph is normal because the road is full of people who won't keep left unless overtaking and National express coaches glued to the outside lane.

At least by making it 50mph i won't feel cheated.
i'd forgotten you can do more 50mph on the A31. When i drive along it after work about 40mph is normal because the road is full of people who won't keep left unless overtaking and National express coaches glued to the outside lane. At least by making it 50mph i won't feel cheated. throatwarbler
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1:36pm Fri 25 Jan 13

speedy231278 says...

Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does.
Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does. speedy231278
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2:06pm Fri 25 Jan 13

PokesdownMark says...

Better signs would seem a no-brainer. Speed restrictions imposed in other places have proven to be limited benefit. But clearer signs seems like an obvious benefit. I would hope the elected officials are equally positive about their introduction.
Better signs would seem a no-brainer. Speed restrictions imposed in other places have proven to be limited benefit. But clearer signs seems like an obvious benefit. I would hope the elected officials are equally positive about their introduction. PokesdownMark
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2:34pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nobbjockie says...

With the speed limit at 70mph joining traffic at the numerous slip roads and side roads causes brake action that following vehicles react to, that then creates a chain of brake action that causes the queues. Drivers sadly refuse to keep an adequate distance from the vehicle front where a simple speed adjustment without braking would suffice. Reducing the spped to 50 will assist in reaction time and reduce brake action and the obvious effects of queue causing. The 'no overtaking for vehicles over 7T on uphill gradients' on the M42 in Staffs works excellently well and reduced queuing and frsutration by 78%. Thats all they need to do at Poulners and the other steep gradients through the forest section. And all at minimal cost of traffic orders and road signs!
With the speed limit at 70mph joining traffic at the numerous slip roads and side roads causes brake action that following vehicles react to, that then creates a chain of brake action that causes the queues. Drivers sadly refuse to keep an adequate distance from the vehicle front where a simple speed adjustment without braking would suffice. Reducing the spped to 50 will assist in reaction time and reduce brake action and the obvious effects of queue causing. The 'no overtaking for vehicles over 7T on uphill gradients' on the M42 in Staffs works excellently well and reduced queuing and frsutration by 78%. Thats all they need to do at Poulners and the other steep gradients through the forest section. And all at minimal cost of traffic orders and road signs! nobbjockie
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2:34pm Fri 25 Jan 13

catseye says...

Am I the only one who has to take avoiding action going eastbound on A31 when cars and white vans join from Verwood and immediately cross 3 lanes of traffic to take up their rightful place in outside lane. Of course whilst doing this indicators are optional. As said by others main problem is poor driving but why not reduce number of junctions by closing Hightown, and the Fish, and then spend money on improving the remainder
Am I the only one who has to take avoiding action going eastbound on A31 when cars and white vans join from Verwood and immediately cross 3 lanes of traffic to take up their rightful place in outside lane. Of course whilst doing this indicators are optional. As said by others main problem is poor driving but why not reduce number of junctions by closing Hightown, and the Fish, and then spend money on improving the remainder catseye
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3:29pm Fri 25 Jan 13

jobsworthwatch says...

The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis!
The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis! jobsworthwatch
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3:30pm Fri 25 Jan 13

jobsworthwatch says...

The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis!
The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis! jobsworthwatch
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3:42pm Fri 25 Jan 13

PokesdownMark says...

nobbjockie wrote:
With the speed limit at 70mph joining traffic at the numerous slip roads and side roads causes brake action that following vehicles react to, that then creates a chain of brake action that causes the queues. Drivers sadly refuse to keep an adequate distance from the vehicle front where a simple speed adjustment without braking would suffice. Reducing the spped to 50 will assist in reaction time and reduce brake action and the obvious effects of queue causing. The 'no overtaking for vehicles over 7T on uphill gradients' on the M42 in Staffs works excellently well and reduced queuing and frsutration by 78%. Thats all they need to do at Poulners and the other steep gradients through the forest section. And all at minimal cost of traffic orders and road signs!
You would think that a 50 limit would reduce braking. But my first hand experience driving the 40mph Spur Rd in Bournemouth is that cars drive closer than ever. Which makes joining from a slip MUCH harder.
A simple sign is needed: Warning Slip Ahead - Maintain your Gap. Wording plates under the standard Highway Code signs for On-coming Slip and the too seldom used Exclamation Mark sign.
It's really no different in concept than the Queuing Ahead warning signs.
[quote][p][bold]nobbjockie[/bold] wrote: With the speed limit at 70mph joining traffic at the numerous slip roads and side roads causes brake action that following vehicles react to, that then creates a chain of brake action that causes the queues. Drivers sadly refuse to keep an adequate distance from the vehicle front where a simple speed adjustment without braking would suffice. Reducing the spped to 50 will assist in reaction time and reduce brake action and the obvious effects of queue causing. The 'no overtaking for vehicles over 7T on uphill gradients' on the M42 in Staffs works excellently well and reduced queuing and frsutration by 78%. Thats all they need to do at Poulners and the other steep gradients through the forest section. And all at minimal cost of traffic orders and road signs![/p][/quote]You would think that a 50 limit would reduce braking. But my first hand experience driving the 40mph Spur Rd in Bournemouth is that cars drive closer than ever. Which makes joining from a slip MUCH harder. A simple sign is needed: Warning Slip Ahead - Maintain your Gap. Wording plates under the standard Highway Code signs for On-coming Slip and the too seldom used Exclamation Mark sign. It's really no different in concept than the Queuing Ahead warning signs. PokesdownMark
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3:46pm Fri 25 Jan 13

palexgo says...

palexgo wrote:
I drove on the A31 for 10 years to work near Southampton. I suspect that most of the accidents on the A31 near Ringwood are caused by drivers inexperienced of the trip when it is busy. On many occasions I found myself behind old people driving as slowly as 30mph! The police should grab the incompetent people driving slowly rather than reduce the rod speed to 50mph.
I should have added that 50mph should be the MINIMUM speed during the rush hour from 7am to 9am and 4pm to 7pm. That would keep a lot of rubbish off the road such as tractors and slow drivers. 15 years ago I could get to Southampton in less than an hour because there were few old incompetent drivers on the road in those days.
[quote][p][bold]palexgo[/bold] wrote: I drove on the A31 for 10 years to work near Southampton. I suspect that most of the accidents on the A31 near Ringwood are caused by drivers inexperienced of the trip when it is busy. On many occasions I found myself behind old people driving as slowly as 30mph! The police should grab the incompetent people driving slowly rather than reduce the rod speed to 50mph.[/p][/quote]I should have added that 50mph should be the MINIMUM speed during the rush hour from 7am to 9am and 4pm to 7pm. That would keep a lot of rubbish off the road such as tractors and slow drivers. 15 years ago I could get to Southampton in less than an hour because there were few old incompetent drivers on the road in those days. palexgo
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3:55pm Fri 25 Jan 13

amor46422 says...

so typically reduce the limit cos its the laziest thing to do which in turn will NOT make it much safer never mind whether the majority will respect the new limit for such a high quality stretch of road, like the Dorset Way 50mph and 40mph Wessex Way it seems more people will just bunch up more and lane hog, its poor inconsiderate and inattention human errors that are the prime accident causes, all this reduce the speed limit till it eventually becomes 0mph god sake get a grip people you have no sense it dosent mean to say we have to drive that fast if its not safe but unrealistic limits mean more people will ignore it and make all the safety issues worser, this is whole much of the UK have become since many councils have a 50mph limit obsession with all rural roads and now even manyt high quality dual carraigeways that even a 70mph is outdated in the safest of conditions for it is stupid, i don't say its right or allowed to drive like a formula one driver on these roads but with all this unrealisticness and thinking of safety in a logical numerical way that driving below a certain number of mph means the difference between not crashing and having a fatal how about focus on distraction idiots who lane hog, drive too close etc they're the ones who cause bunchups, rear collisions and real danger on the roads as well as the uninsured, reducing the speed limit will not solve any of these issues end of
so typically reduce the limit cos its the laziest thing to do which in turn will NOT make it much safer never mind whether the majority will respect the new limit for such a high quality stretch of road, like the Dorset Way 50mph and 40mph Wessex Way it seems more people will just bunch up more and lane hog, its poor inconsiderate and inattention human errors that are the prime accident causes, all this reduce the speed limit till it eventually becomes 0mph god sake get a grip people you have no sense it dosent mean to say we have to drive that fast if its not safe but unrealistic limits mean more people will ignore it and make all the safety issues worser, this is whole much of the UK have become since many councils have a 50mph limit obsession with all rural roads and now even manyt high quality dual carraigeways that even a 70mph is outdated in the safest of conditions for it is stupid, i don't say its right or allowed to drive like a formula one driver on these roads but with all this unrealisticness and thinking of safety in a logical numerical way that driving below a certain number of mph means the difference between not crashing and having a fatal how about focus on distraction idiots who lane hog, drive too close etc they're the ones who cause bunchups, rear collisions and real danger on the roads as well as the uninsured, reducing the speed limit will not solve any of these issues end of amor46422
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4:28pm Fri 25 Jan 13

J Swain says...

Just another con trick to get speeding fines from us no we do not want 50 mph limit sort the road out.
Just another con trick to get speeding fines from us no we do not want 50 mph limit sort the road out. J Swain
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6:08pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Brian Badonde says...

Reducing speed limits to 50mph seems to be the 'one size fits all' solution in Dorset.

In reality, all this does it cause the traffic to bunch up together and reduces the spaces required to merge and change lane safely.

The cheapest and most obvious solution is to close the West Street slip road onto the A31, which is a major cause of holdups due to the conflicting streams of traffic trying to join the A31 and leave to enter the petrol station all on the sma piece of road.
Reducing speed limits to 50mph seems to be the 'one size fits all' solution in Dorset. In reality, all this does it cause the traffic to bunch up together and reduces the spaces required to merge and change lane safely. The cheapest and most obvious solution is to close the West Street slip road onto the A31, which is a major cause of holdups due to the conflicting streams of traffic trying to join the A31 and leave to enter the petrol station all on the sma piece of road. Brian Badonde
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6:10pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

catseye wrote:
Am I the only one who has to take avoiding action going eastbound on A31 when cars and white vans join from Verwood and immediately cross 3 lanes of traffic to take up their rightful place in outside lane. Of course whilst doing this indicators are optional. As said by others main problem is poor driving but why not reduce number of junctions by closing Hightown, and the Fish, and then spend money on improving the remainder
That is a good point, why are there so many white vans in Verwood.............
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[quote][p][bold]catseye[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who has to take avoiding action going eastbound on A31 when cars and white vans join from Verwood and immediately cross 3 lanes of traffic to take up their rightful place in outside lane. Of course whilst doing this indicators are optional. As said by others main problem is poor driving but why not reduce number of junctions by closing Hightown, and the Fish, and then spend money on improving the remainder[/p][/quote]That is a good point, why are there so many white vans in Verwood............. .? Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:20pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
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Can we have some meaningful figures? What will be the benefit of reducing the limit to 50mph? or 40? or 30? or 20? or 10? or banning cars altogether? What is trying to be achieved? Knee-jerking an instand reduction to 50mph seems to be very blinkered...........

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The benefit will be yet more revenue to the council just like the cash cow on the Ringwood spur road as it enters the Cooper Dene flyover.
This will catch drivers that can happily drive from London at 70mph for 90 miles but as soon as they get near Bournemouth, whack, down to 50mph, another nail in tourists coming to Dorset, it's not speed that causes these accidents it's bad driving.
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Can we have some meaningful figures? What will be the benefit of reducing the limit to 50mph? or 40? or 30? or 20? or 10? or banning cars altogether? What is trying to be achieved? Knee-jerking an instand reduction to 50mph seems to be very blinkered........... ...................[/p][/quote]The benefit will be yet more revenue to the council just like the cash cow on the Ringwood spur road as it enters the Cooper Dene flyover. This will catch drivers that can happily drive from London at 70mph for 90 miles but as soon as they get near Bournemouth, whack, down to 50mph, another nail in tourists coming to Dorset, it's not speed that causes these accidents it's bad driving. Hessenford
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6:38pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety nosuchluck54
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7:11pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents. Hessenford
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7:35pm Fri 25 Jan 13

rockstar03 says...

unbelievable! ...Dorset way ruined, it's one of the most open straightest bits of road around and you have to sit there at 50, I never drive on it anymore, I drive down through the residential areas for fear that if I creep up to an unimaginable 55 I could have an unmarked police car up my behind or a little white van taking my picture. That bit of road past Ringwood does not need a 50 mph limit, just sensible drivers who drive to the speed limit of 70. These "road safety campaigners" (people with nothing better to do than make honest, safe drivers lives a misery) need to turn their attention to the real problems on the road not just blanket speed limits of 50 mph.
unbelievable! ...Dorset way ruined, it's one of the most open straightest bits of road around and you have to sit there at 50, I never drive on it anymore, I drive down through the residential areas for fear that if I creep up to an unimaginable 55 I could have an unmarked police car up my behind or a little white van taking my picture. That bit of road past Ringwood does not need a 50 mph limit, just sensible drivers who drive to the speed limit of 70. These "road safety campaigners" (people with nothing better to do than make honest, safe drivers lives a misery) need to turn their attention to the real problems on the road not just blanket speed limits of 50 mph. rockstar03
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7:52pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Stop Press says...

The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down. Stop Press
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8:14pm Fri 25 Jan 13

rayc says...

Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up.
I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.
[quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up. I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that. rayc
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8:36pm Fri 25 Jan 13

rayc says...

Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Perhaps we need Give Way road signs at the end of slip roads as the French do.They are also marked "You do not have Priority" and French drivers will sit their until it is clear for them to proceed.
Perhaps it is not those drivers who are on the main carriageway who are selfish and aggressive but those entering from the slip road.
Of course the main problem is poor engineering but putting that right would cost money.
[quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we need Give Way road signs at the end of slip roads as the French do.They are also marked "You do not have Priority" and French drivers will sit their until it is clear for them to proceed. Perhaps it is not those drivers who are on the main carriageway who are selfish and aggressive but those entering from the slip road. Of course the main problem is poor engineering but putting that right would cost money. rayc
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9:07pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others nosuchluck54
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9:08pm Fri 25 Jan 13

sturman says...

Why should anyone have to slow down to 50mph when travelling past Ringwood?
The A31 is a major trunk road, intended to permit traffic to by-pass the town. The town should not overspill onto, or affect the flow of traffic on the by-pass. The problem, as pointed out by others, is the number of junctions on this relatively short stretch of road.
Road Engineering is the real answer to the problem, but there's no money left, so the motorist will, once again, be used as a cash cow.

ps. The last time I travelled the A31, past Ringwood, it was about 9-00pm and there was little traffic. 50mph for 24 hours seems mightily excessive!
Why should anyone have to slow down to 50mph when travelling past Ringwood? The A31 is a major trunk road, intended to permit traffic to by-pass the town. The town should not overspill onto, or affect the flow of traffic on the by-pass. The problem, as pointed out by others, is the number of junctions on this relatively short stretch of road. Road Engineering is the real answer to the problem, but there's no money left, so the motorist will, once again, be used as a cash cow. ps. The last time I travelled the A31, past Ringwood, it was about 9-00pm and there was little traffic. 50mph for 24 hours seems mightily excessive! sturman
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9:21pm Fri 25 Jan 13

rayc says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50.
Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50. Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk. rayc
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9:33pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Stop Press says...

rayc wrote:
Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Perhaps we need Give Way road signs at the end of slip roads as the French do.They are also marked "You do not have Priority" and French drivers will sit their until it is clear for them to proceed.
Perhaps it is not those drivers who are on the main carriageway who are selfish and aggressive but those entering from the slip road.
Of course the main problem is poor engineering but putting that right would cost money.
For drivers without experience of pulling out from these slip roads. It is dangerous because, two of them are uphill, the other arrives at the back of slow moving traffic pulling out by the petrol station, all potentially from standing starts. All slip-roads have restricted visibility, over the right shoulder, round a bend, possibly at night and in rain. Not knowing how nervous the driver in front of you is, or how stupid the boy-racer behind you might be. All these dangerous components are magnified by far too many drivers illegally overtaking at junctions (yes you) and assuming that 70 mph means 80 mph or more. Speed still kills - Slow down.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we need Give Way road signs at the end of slip roads as the French do.They are also marked "You do not have Priority" and French drivers will sit their until it is clear for them to proceed. Perhaps it is not those drivers who are on the main carriageway who are selfish and aggressive but those entering from the slip road. Of course the main problem is poor engineering but putting that right would cost money.[/p][/quote]For drivers without experience of pulling out from these slip roads. It is dangerous because, two of them are uphill, the other arrives at the back of slow moving traffic pulling out by the petrol station, all potentially from standing starts. All slip-roads have restricted visibility, over the right shoulder, round a bend, possibly at night and in rain. Not knowing how nervous the driver in front of you is, or how stupid the boy-racer behind you might be. All these dangerous components are magnified by far too many drivers illegally overtaking at junctions (yes you) and assuming that 70 mph means 80 mph or more. Speed still kills - Slow down. Stop Press
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9:40pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

rayc wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50.
Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.
Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50. Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.[/p][/quote]Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers nosuchluck54
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9:49pm Fri 25 Jan 13

retry69 says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
rayc wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50.
Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.
Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers
Leave it!!!!! SSSSSSSSSSSSShhhhh
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50. Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.[/p][/quote]Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers[/p][/quote]Leave it!!!!! SSSSSSSSSSSSShhhhh retry69
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10:19pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
And what age range do you come under I wonder, probably under 30 driving some souped up car you cant handle, younger drivers attract higher insurance premiums because they are a higher risk by way of experience and stupidity.
there are 2 regular commenters one often boasts of being a professional driver (25years) who does not understand why he would attract a fine and points for breaking a speed limit the second one boasts 40+ years PSV HGV and is not aware of the speed limits on the roads he drives on,experience and stupidity you say,pointing the finger and younger drivers,i dont think so,please dont kid yourself
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]And what age range do you come under I wonder, probably under 30 driving some souped up car you cant handle, younger drivers attract higher insurance premiums because they are a higher risk by way of experience and stupidity.[/p][/quote]there are 2 regular commenters one often boasts of being a professional driver (25years) who does not understand why he would attract a fine and points for breaking a speed limit the second one boasts 40+ years PSV HGV and is not aware of the speed limits on the roads he drives on,experience and stupidity you say,pointing the finger and younger drivers,i dont think so,please dont kid yourself nosuchluck54
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10:22pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Felpro says...

Yes - make it 50mph. About time. And a traffic camera please.
Yes - make it 50mph. About time. And a traffic camera please. Felpro
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10:24pm Fri 25 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

Felpro wrote:
Yes - make it 50mph. About time. And a traffic camera please.
There are sensible people around at this time of night
[quote][p][bold]Felpro[/bold] wrote: Yes - make it 50mph. About time. And a traffic camera please.[/p][/quote]There are sensible people around at this time of night nosuchluck54
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10:24pm Fri 25 Jan 13

ragj195 says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
rayc wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50.
Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.
Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers
Same here. I've don't think I've ever seen a "young" driver going the wrong way round and roundabout or casually drive straight through a red light at a busy crossroads. Any it's a bit off topic. As a few have already said. There's nothing wrong with the speed limit. The problem lies with the location/design of the slip roads in that area and that area only.
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]I very much doubt what you say. My company had all their drivers attend a Defensive Driving Course and assessment. The ones who got the best ratings were over 50. Why not target those drivers in the age range that insurance companies consider the most likely to be involved in a collision. They have extensive records and their premium policy reflects the risk.[/p][/quote]Yeah this is all old ground we all know that stats can be manipulated to help the user, when challenged i found a survey by a leading motoring organisation which showed that incidents/accidents at junctions more often than not involved a driver over 50.I base my opinions and thats all they are on my own observations and if you research the recent incidents that have made headlines most were older drivers[/p][/quote]Same here. I've don't think I've ever seen a "young" driver going the wrong way round and roundabout or casually drive straight through a red light at a busy crossroads. Any it's a bit off topic. As a few have already said. There's nothing wrong with the speed limit. The problem lies with the location/design of the slip roads in that area and that area only. ragj195
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11:50pm Fri 25 Jan 13

bluecardholder says...

Sorry, who are these mysterious campaigners? Whereas there *may* be a problem for an hour a day, why bring the road down to 50mph when the 23 hours a day its safe.

Sorry, reducing the speed limit lacks imagination and frankly, will be a unnecessary cash cow for the local police.As an outsider I dont agree on something that doesn't make an ounce of sense.
Sorry, who are these mysterious campaigners? Whereas there *may* be a problem for an hour a day, why bring the road down to 50mph when the 23 hours a day its safe. Sorry, reducing the speed limit lacks imagination and frankly, will be a unnecessary cash cow for the local police.As an outsider I dont agree on something that doesn't make an ounce of sense. bluecardholder
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12:28am Sat 26 Jan 13

Yankee1 says...

The entire single carriageway A31 should have a 50 mph limit.

It is an inherently unsafe road at the best of times.
The entire single carriageway A31 should have a 50 mph limit. It is an inherently unsafe road at the best of times. Yankee1
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1:57am Sat 26 Jan 13

jquain says...

I'd like to meet me these 1000 people! I've lived in Ringwood for 27 years and never heard anyone say the speed limit should be reduced.

I would agree that the road isn't very good. The only sensible solution for me is to extend the M27 all the way to Honiton. There is loads of room for expansion. Another thing that would help would be to move the petrol station on the Ringwood exit slip. It's a recipe for disaster having people pulling into the petrol station with people making progress along the slip road!
I'd like to meet me these 1000 people! I've lived in Ringwood for 27 years and never heard anyone say the speed limit should be reduced. I would agree that the road isn't very good. The only sensible solution for me is to extend the M27 all the way to Honiton. There is loads of room for expansion. Another thing that would help would be to move the petrol station on the Ringwood exit slip. It's a recipe for disaster having people pulling into the petrol station with people making progress along the slip road! jquain
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6:58am Sat 26 Jan 13

Village Idiot says...

Load of old rubbish. It's the drivers that cause accidents, not the road system! Those advocating closing the various sliproads are oblivious to the complexity of the minor road system in and around the Town.
Perhaps it's time for drivers to be taught to drive as oppossed to just passing a test!
The inability of a huge number of drivers to see and appreciate what is going on around them defies believe. They have in their control, which is very debatable in some instances, a killing machine!
Stirling Moss once said, I believe, that if there was a spike in the middle of the steerring wheel and no seatbelt, people would take a great deal more care of their position on the road and of their braking distances!
Load of old rubbish. It's the drivers that cause accidents, not the road system! Those advocating closing the various sliproads are oblivious to the complexity of the minor road system in and around the Town. Perhaps it's time for drivers to be taught to drive as oppossed to just passing a test! The inability of a huge number of drivers to see and appreciate what is going on around them defies believe. They have in their control, which is very debatable in some instances, a killing machine! Stirling Moss once said, I believe, that if there was a spike in the middle of the steerring wheel and no seatbelt, people would take a great deal more care of their position on the road and of their braking distances! Village Idiot
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8:00am Sat 26 Jan 13

Villz says...

amor46422 wrote:
so typically reduce the limit cos its the laziest thing to do which in turn will NOT make it much safer never mind whether the majority will respect the new limit for such a high quality stretch of road, like the Dorset Way 50mph and 40mph Wessex Way it seems more people will just bunch up more and lane hog, its poor inconsiderate and inattention human errors that are the prime accident causes, all this reduce the speed limit till it eventually becomes 0mph god sake get a grip people you have no sense it dosent mean to say we have to drive that fast if its not safe but unrealistic limits mean more people will ignore it and make all the safety issues worser, this is whole much of the UK have become since many councils have a 50mph limit obsession with all rural roads and now even manyt high quality dual carraigeways that even a 70mph is outdated in the safest of conditions for it is stupid, i don't say its right or allowed to drive like a formula one driver on these roads but with all this unrealisticness and thinking of safety in a logical numerical way that driving below a certain number of mph means the difference between not crashing and having a fatal how about focus on distraction idiots who lane hog, drive too close etc they're the ones who cause bunchups, rear collisions and real danger on the roads as well as the uninsured, reducing the speed limit will not solve any of these issues end of
Ringwood obviously needs the grammar/punctuation please too
[quote][p][bold]amor46422[/bold] wrote: so typically reduce the limit cos its the laziest thing to do which in turn will NOT make it much safer never mind whether the majority will respect the new limit for such a high quality stretch of road, like the Dorset Way 50mph and 40mph Wessex Way it seems more people will just bunch up more and lane hog, its poor inconsiderate and inattention human errors that are the prime accident causes, all this reduce the speed limit till it eventually becomes 0mph god sake get a grip people you have no sense it dosent mean to say we have to drive that fast if its not safe but unrealistic limits mean more people will ignore it and make all the safety issues worser, this is whole much of the UK have become since many councils have a 50mph limit obsession with all rural roads and now even manyt high quality dual carraigeways that even a 70mph is outdated in the safest of conditions for it is stupid, i don't say its right or allowed to drive like a formula one driver on these roads but with all this unrealisticness and thinking of safety in a logical numerical way that driving below a certain number of mph means the difference between not crashing and having a fatal how about focus on distraction idiots who lane hog, drive too close etc they're the ones who cause bunchups, rear collisions and real danger on the roads as well as the uninsured, reducing the speed limit will not solve any of these issues end of[/p][/quote]Ringwood obviously needs the grammar/punctuation please too Villz
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8:28am Sat 26 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

Village Idiot wrote:
Load of old rubbish. It's the drivers that cause accidents, not the road system! Those advocating closing the various sliproads are oblivious to the complexity of the minor road system in and around the Town.
Perhaps it's time for drivers to be taught to drive as oppossed to just passing a test!
The inability of a huge number of drivers to see and appreciate what is going on around them defies believe. They have in their control, which is very debatable in some instances, a killing machine!
Stirling Moss once said, I believe, that if there was a spike in the middle of the steerring wheel and no seatbelt, people would take a great deal more care of their position on the road and of their braking distances!
Was that before or after Mr.Moss was stopped for speeding?
[quote][p][bold]Village Idiot[/bold] wrote: Load of old rubbish. It's the drivers that cause accidents, not the road system! Those advocating closing the various sliproads are oblivious to the complexity of the minor road system in and around the Town. Perhaps it's time for drivers to be taught to drive as oppossed to just passing a test! The inability of a huge number of drivers to see and appreciate what is going on around them defies believe. They have in their control, which is very debatable in some instances, a killing machine! Stirling Moss once said, I believe, that if there was a spike in the middle of the steerring wheel and no seatbelt, people would take a great deal more care of their position on the road and of their braking distances![/p][/quote]Was that before or after Mr.Moss was stopped for speeding? nosuchluck54
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11:40am Sat 26 Jan 13

billez says...

The A31 needs signs to warn people when there is queuing traffic ahead!! I know it does but they just flash at you all the time and are ignored as they flash when the road is clear, they should be linked to sensors at the junction.
OK the junction at Ringwood needs fixing, not difficult to do but would require some money. With good signage and good driving there is no need to reduce the speed limit but I'm sure it will happen as it's the 'easy fix' to prove the bureaucrats are doing their job!!
The A31 needs signs to warn people when there is queuing traffic ahead!! I know it does but they just flash at you all the time and are ignored as they flash when the road is clear, they should be linked to sensors at the junction. OK the junction at Ringwood needs fixing, not difficult to do but would require some money. With good signage and good driving there is no need to reduce the speed limit but I'm sure it will happen as it's the 'easy fix' to prove the bureaucrats are doing their job!! billez
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11:46am Sat 26 Jan 13

retry69 says...

As a previous commenter has pointed out drivers should be aware of whats happening around them and if a driver requires signs to warn of queuing traffic ahead perhaps that driver is in need of a re-test and perhaps should not be on the road
As a previous commenter has pointed out drivers should be aware of whats happening around them and if a driver requires signs to warn of queuing traffic ahead perhaps that driver is in need of a re-test and perhaps should not be on the road retry69
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11:56am Sat 26 Jan 13

nobbjockie says...

rayc wrote:
Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up.
I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.
Within a 1 mile strectch between Poulner and Salisbury Rd there have been 3 fatalities in 1 year that I know of.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up. I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.[/p][/quote]Within a 1 mile strectch between Poulner and Salisbury Rd there have been 3 fatalities in 1 year that I know of. nobbjockie
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12:12pm Sat 26 Jan 13

terry jerrard says...

rayc wrote:
Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up.
I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.
Strange request and obviously you were not on that road a week ago friday when 2 coaches were driving in convoy way faster than anyone else and completely inappropriate for the conditions
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up. I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.[/p][/quote]Strange request and obviously you were not on that road a week ago friday when 2 coaches were driving in convoy way faster than anyone else and completely inappropriate for the conditions terry jerrard
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3:05pm Sat 26 Jan 13

bournenbred says...

There is no such thing as a dangerous road !

Its idiot drivers that create danger !!

There is no need for any speed limits !!!

Traffic volumes dictate speed limits, you cant go any faster than the person at the front of the queue

But there are too many single cell amoebas with a driving licence !!
There is no such thing as a dangerous road ! Its idiot drivers that create danger !! There is no need for any speed limits !!! Traffic volumes dictate speed limits, you cant go any faster than the person at the front of the queue But there are too many single cell amoebas with a driving licence !! bournenbred
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4:12pm Sat 26 Jan 13

rayc says...

terry jerrard wrote:
rayc wrote:
Stop Press wrote:
The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.
Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up.
I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.
Strange request and obviously you were not on that road a week ago friday when 2 coaches were driving in convoy way faster than anyone else and completely inappropriate for the conditions
The article says "Ringwood Town Council and New Forest District Council met with Highways Agency representatives before Christmas to discuss how to improve the safety record on the road."
I am just interested in what the safety record is, what is strange about that?

The article does not provide any safety statistics so many thanks to knobjockie for providing some information. regarding the safety record.
[quote][p][bold]terry jerrard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop Press[/bold] wrote: The dice with death manoeuvre that is pulling out on to the A31 from any of the Ringwood slip roads have always required a leap of faith. Selfish & aggressive drivers not getting themselves into the outside lanes away from the potential danger don't help. Reducing the speed limit to 50 mph should have happened years ago. The roads aren't a racetrack they're a method of getting everyone (young & old) from A to B safely. What's your rush? Speed kills, slow down.[/p][/quote]Just for the record does anyone know the number of fatal collisions in the last few years between Picket Post and the spur road roundabout and the ages of the drivers responsible for the collision? Please do not include any who have driven into lay byes and collided with vehicles parked up. I drive through there regularly in a vehicle limited by law to 60 mph and very few drivers are going faster than that.[/p][/quote]Strange request and obviously you were not on that road a week ago friday when 2 coaches were driving in convoy way faster than anyone else and completely inappropriate for the conditions[/p][/quote]The article says "Ringwood Town Council and New Forest District Council met with Highways Agency representatives before Christmas to discuss how to improve the safety record on the road." I am just interested in what the safety record is, what is strange about that? The article does not provide any safety statistics so many thanks to knobjockie for providing some information. regarding the safety record. rayc
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4:43pm Sat 26 Jan 13

l'anglais says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis!
If you had said Exeter I'd agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: The proper solution is to extend the M27 to Bere Regis![/p][/quote]If you had said Exeter I'd agree with you. l'anglais
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5:17pm Sat 26 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
nosuchluck54 wrote:
I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety
Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation.
An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.
But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others
And what age range do you come under I wonder, probably under 30 driving some souped up car you cant handle, younger drivers attract higher insurance premiums because they are a higher risk by way of experience and stupidity.
A little harsh but i will play, you are probably over 50 with a ford fiesta you cant handle am i right?
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: I was waiting for our 2 regular "professional" drivers to join in but cannot wait any longer.Of course a 50mph limit should be introduced and also applied on all 2 lane carriageways and an 80mph on all 3/4 lane motorways.As for the ageists on here a commenter recently suggested re-tests for 50year olds then every 3 years, i agree that would reduce the amount of older drivers on our roads and certainly improve safety[/p][/quote]Retesting of over 50s would break equality legislation. An RAC foundation report in 2010 found that mandatory re-testing for elderly drivers would do little to reduce road accidents.[/p][/quote]But it would reduce it and remove a considerable amount of distraction off our roads as most 50+ year olds would fail the re-test making it safer for others[/p][/quote]And what age range do you come under I wonder, probably under 30 driving some souped up car you cant handle, younger drivers attract higher insurance premiums because they are a higher risk by way of experience and stupidity.[/p][/quote]A little harsh but i will play, you are probably over 50 with a ford fiesta you cant handle am i right? nosuchluck54
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5:20pm Sat 26 Jan 13

l'anglais says...

bournenbred wrote:
There is no such thing as a dangerous road !

Its idiot drivers that create danger !!

There is no need for any speed limits !!!

Traffic volumes dictate speed limits, you cant go any faster than the person at the front of the queue

But there are too many single cell amoebas with a driving licence !!
There is such a thing as dangerous town planners.
[quote][p][bold]bournenbred[/bold] wrote: There is no such thing as a dangerous road ! Its idiot drivers that create danger !! There is no need for any speed limits !!! Traffic volumes dictate speed limits, you cant go any faster than the person at the front of the queue But there are too many single cell amoebas with a driving licence !![/p][/quote]There is such a thing as dangerous town planners. l'anglais
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5:45pm Sat 26 Jan 13

GAHmusic says...

Reducing speed limits damages businesses and the economy but why worry about that
Reducing speed limits damages businesses and the economy but why worry about that GAHmusic
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6:43pm Sat 26 Jan 13

ian t says...

bournenbred , please dont insult single cell amoebas , they are far more intelligent than todays average driver
bournenbred , please dont insult single cell amoebas , they are far more intelligent than todays average driver ian t
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6:57pm Sat 26 Jan 13

miketheplumb says...

For goodness sake, let's look at the problem, which (according to the echo is) "to improve the safety record on the road....."
So the very first thing the locals advise is "REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT"
Whilst it is acclaimed that speed cause the majority of accidents, this is HUMANS, i.e. cause accidents. An dthis can be generate by a multitude of reasons NOT PURELY SPEED.
So get of your **** horse and think logically, there's a multitude of reasons why this stretch of road may have traffic problems, not least it was designed and implemented long BEFORE current traffic volumes.
Think sensibly an define appropriate resolutions before you jump on ONE bandwagon, because you THINK it will cure things.
IT WILL NOT, as there are many reasons for your problem.
For goodness sake, let's look at the problem, which (according to the echo is) "to improve the safety record on the road....." So the very first thing the locals advise is "REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT" Whilst it is acclaimed that speed cause the majority of accidents, this is HUMANS, i.e. cause accidents. An dthis can be generate by a multitude of reasons NOT PURELY SPEED. So get of your **** horse and think logically, there's a multitude of reasons why this stretch of road may have traffic problems, not least it was designed and implemented long BEFORE current traffic volumes. Think sensibly an define appropriate resolutions before you jump on ONE bandwagon, because you THINK it will cure things. IT WILL NOT, as there are many reasons for your problem. miketheplumb
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7:17pm Sat 26 Jan 13

nosuchluck54 says...

miketheplumb wrote:
For goodness sake, let's look at the problem, which (according to the echo is) "to improve the safety record on the road....."
So the very first thing the locals advise is "REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT"
Whilst it is acclaimed that speed cause the majority of accidents, this is HUMANS, i.e. cause accidents. An dthis can be generate by a multitude of reasons NOT PURELY SPEED.
So get of your **** horse and think logically, there's a multitude of reasons why this stretch of road may have traffic problems, not least it was designed and implemented long BEFORE current traffic volumes.
Think sensibly an define appropriate resolutions before you jump on ONE bandwagon, because you THINK it will cure things.
IT WILL NOT, as there are many reasons for your problem.
No need to throw your toys out just say whats on your mind
[quote][p][bold]miketheplumb[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake, let's look at the problem, which (according to the echo is) "to improve the safety record on the road....." So the very first thing the locals advise is "REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT" Whilst it is acclaimed that speed cause the majority of accidents, this is HUMANS, i.e. cause accidents. An dthis can be generate by a multitude of reasons NOT PURELY SPEED. So get of your **** horse and think logically, there's a multitude of reasons why this stretch of road may have traffic problems, not least it was designed and implemented long BEFORE current traffic volumes. Think sensibly an define appropriate resolutions before you jump on ONE bandwagon, because you THINK it will cure things. IT WILL NOT, as there are many reasons for your problem.[/p][/quote]No need to throw your toys out just say whats on your mind nosuchluck54
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8:22pm Sat 26 Jan 13

The Timelord says...

horray! Finally 50mph on this dangerous stretch of road.
However bear in mind Dorset sorted out the Ashley Heath junction right up to the county boundary but Hampshire failed to complete the scheme to the flyover at Ringwood.
This would have cured a lot of the issues here but I suspect there is no enthusiasm or money to complete this minor stretch of road that would benefit every user.
horray! Finally 50mph on this dangerous stretch of road. However bear in mind Dorset sorted out the Ashley Heath junction right up to the county boundary but Hampshire failed to complete the scheme to the flyover at Ringwood. This would have cured a lot of the issues here but I suspect there is no enthusiasm or money to complete this minor stretch of road that would benefit every user. The Timelord
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8:27pm Sat 26 Jan 13

markelkins says...

tricky1007 wrote:
the road where you join from Ringwood onto the A31 is the problem, it was not thought out well, to have a petrol station, and pub not far away, and traffic coming up over the flyover to be greeted by traffic coming out in front of them!
I quite agree as this is certainly common sense.

As more and more people are being crammed into the area I guess the problem will only get worse as the UK population rises. So really its probably going to have to be a speed reduction so the road can cope safely with this volume of traffic.

I also think that despite the claim made by many that fuel prices are too high it is quite remarkable the number of drivers who insist on driving at 70mph and over given the chance. This is despite the fact that if they drove just 10 miles slower they would save a fortune in fuel costs. Indeed I've come across a number of drivers who think a car driving at 60 mph in the inside lane is some kind of freak who deserves to be headlight flashed. There are many many drivers who just will not leave a safe distance between them and the vehicle in front - so the result is going to be all to obvious in the form of more accidents.

I can guarantee that if the speed limit is lowered to 50mph on this section of the A31 there will be loads of drivers going at 60 to 70mph. This is something I witness daily on the Wessex Way and in the section where it is 40mph when the vast majority of drivers break that limit until of course they get near a speed camera. Extremely annoying as these people gain an unfair advantage in the position they then occupy in queues into Poole.
[quote][p][bold]tricky1007[/bold] wrote: the road where you join from Ringwood onto the A31 is the problem, it was not thought out well, to have a petrol station, and pub not far away, and traffic coming up over the flyover to be greeted by traffic coming out in front of them![/p][/quote]I quite agree as this is certainly common sense. As more and more people are being crammed into the area I guess the problem will only get worse as the UK population rises. So really its probably going to have to be a speed reduction so the road can cope safely with this volume of traffic. I also think that despite the claim made by many that fuel prices are too high it is quite remarkable the number of drivers who insist on driving at 70mph and over given the chance. This is despite the fact that if they drove just 10 miles slower they would save a fortune in fuel costs. Indeed I've come across a number of drivers who think a car driving at 60 mph in the inside lane is some kind of freak who deserves to be headlight flashed. There are many many drivers who just will not leave a safe distance between them and the vehicle in front - so the result is going to be all to obvious in the form of more accidents. I can guarantee that if the speed limit is lowered to 50mph on this section of the A31 there will be loads of drivers going at 60 to 70mph. This is something I witness daily on the Wessex Way and in the section where it is 40mph when the vast majority of drivers break that limit until of course they get near a speed camera. Extremely annoying as these people gain an unfair advantage in the position they then occupy in queues into Poole. markelkins
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9:01am Sun 27 Jan 13

steve518 says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does.
Agree with you 100 percent. I believe slow drivers actually present more danger in most cases.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does.[/p][/quote]Agree with you 100 percent. I believe slow drivers actually present more danger in most cases. steve518
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9:57am Sun 27 Jan 13

Mikeyunibournemouth says...

You cannot keep reducing speed limits to deal with incompetent driving!
You cannot keep reducing speed limits to deal with incompetent driving! Mikeyunibournemouth
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1:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

bos748 says...

drivers on slip road want to learn to use the accelerator not the brake and just merge in as you should it ,s quite simple to judge your speed and carry this operation if you can drive properly.
drivers on slip road want to learn to use the accelerator not the brake and just merge in as you should it ,s quite simple to judge your speed and carry this operation if you can drive properly. bos748
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10:40pm Mon 28 Jan 13

martin225 says...

Bournemouth and Poole conurbation has around 300,000 people this road is a sub-standard. Best option would be to add additional lane each way which would not be full size but a limit of 60mph. Its a disgrace that the main road in and out of Dorset, the day transport get taken seriously in this country is when our economy can compete.
Bournemouth and Poole conurbation has around 300,000 people this road is a sub-standard. Best option would be to add additional lane each way which would not be full size but a limit of 60mph. Its a disgrace that the main road in and out of Dorset, the day transport get taken seriously in this country is when our economy can compete. martin225
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6:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13

FNS-man says...

steve518 wrote:
speedy231278 wrote: Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does.
Agree with you 100 percent. I believe slow drivers actually present more danger in most cases.
I'd probably prefer to be crashed-into by someone going slower than going someone faster.
[quote][p][bold]steve518[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Why should everyone have their journey time extended just because a few idiots can't drive and insist on having careless and often reckless crashes? Speed doesn't kill. Shockingly poor driving and lack of observation does.[/p][/quote]Agree with you 100 percent. I believe slow drivers actually present more danger in most cases.[/p][/quote]I'd probably prefer to be crashed-into by someone going slower than going someone faster. FNS-man
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9:13pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Astrium says...

Reduce the speed limit to 50 mph from Ashley Heath to the M27 at peak times.
Build a exit road for Ringwood on the former castle main trailway that runs from town to the verwood slip road.

Also for good measure the highways people could stick some stupid traffic lights on Ashley Heath Roundabout, just for some added fun!
Reduce the speed limit to 50 mph from Ashley Heath to the M27 at peak times. Build a exit road for Ringwood on the former castle main trailway that runs from town to the verwood slip road. Also for good measure the highways people could stick some stupid traffic lights on Ashley Heath Roundabout, just for some added fun! Astrium
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6:48am Wed 30 Jan 13

EGHH says...

The problem are the insane slip-roads. There should not be one joining by the pub and the petrol station needs to either close or pay for a proper joining lane. Instead of lowering the speed limits the highway agency needs to spend money on improving the slip-roads. Either shut them or rebuild them. Alternatively drivers should change lanes to allow traffic to join the A31 safely.
The problem are the insane slip-roads. There should not be one joining by the pub and the petrol station needs to either close or pay for a proper joining lane. Instead of lowering the speed limits the highway agency needs to spend money on improving the slip-roads. Either shut them or rebuild them. Alternatively drivers should change lanes to allow traffic to join the A31 safely. EGHH
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10:39am Wed 30 Jan 13

really?? seriously?? says...

Its really down to bad driving, re-test everyone after 2-3 years regardless of age, it will create jobs, could be used to reduce insurance premiums and im sure accidents.
Its really down to bad driving, re-test everyone after 2-3 years regardless of age, it will create jobs, could be used to reduce insurance premiums and im sure accidents. really?? seriously??
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2:04pm Wed 30 Jan 13

In Absentia says...

martin225 wrote:
Bournemouth and Poole conurbation has around 300,000 people this road is a sub-standard. Best option would be to add additional lane each way which would not be full size but a limit of 60mph. Its a disgrace that the main road in and out of Dorset, the day transport get taken seriously in this country is when our economy can compete.
That'll never be agreed through an area designated as part of a National Park. A quick fix would be to restrict all commercial vehicles over 7.5T to the inside lanes only between Ringwood and the M27. The attempted overtaking by lorries on the various hills is just ridiculous at times.
[quote][p][bold]martin225[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth and Poole conurbation has around 300,000 people this road is a sub-standard. Best option would be to add additional lane each way which would not be full size but a limit of 60mph. Its a disgrace that the main road in and out of Dorset, the day transport get taken seriously in this country is when our economy can compete.[/p][/quote]That'll never be agreed through an area designated as part of a National Park. A quick fix would be to restrict all commercial vehicles over 7.5T to the inside lanes only between Ringwood and the M27. The attempted overtaking by lorries on the various hills is just ridiculous at times. In Absentia
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