BCCA protection bid refused as building has been 'closed for too long' (From Bournemouth Echo)

A typically cynical decision by the council, Beesley says its been closed more than 5 years. I believe when they recieved the application it was 5 years and a month.

Tom 'Boscombe' Jones wrote:
A typically cynical decision by the council, Beesley says its been closed more than 5 years. I believe when they recieved the application it was 5 years and a month.

Not just cynical, but wicked and mischievous. A classic example of the likes of Beesley having the power to work things to their own satisfaction. Happens all the time with local authorities who allow facilities to deteriorate until they consider them no longer economical to repair, then use the site 'for development'.

Yet another NO from the local bunch of councillors, we need to get rid of the lot at the next election and have a people party to represent the views of ALL the folk in the area, not just a few who think they have the right to say NO to everything, except daft ideas such as the REEF, you know the disaster near Boscombe pier, and the IMAX, or was there MAYBE something more underhand, funny how there is not a big NO when there is BIG money involved.

I suspect they were always going to say "no" to any application to keep that building open. They have designs on so called affordable housing and that is the extent of their interest in my opinion.

To the council it is a consideration of whether they have one building paying one lot of council taxes - or 14 paying taxes. Greedy selfish bunch of no-hopers!

It seems a clear conflict of interest is going on here. The same body that wants to be rid of the place acts as judge and jury in a procedure intended to protect it.
Sounds very similar to Christchurch Council's recently announced refusal to list protect the Druitt Hall.
Once again the 'masters' are ruled by those who should be their 'servants' it seems

Once again common sense has prevailed over the Council bashers who've been determined to cause as much trouble as possible over this issue, so it's good news that their latest stalling measure has been thrown out.
The BCCA is a decrepit eye sore that's needed tearing down for years. The Council proposals for new housing and a community hall are the best outcome for this site and it's high time the nimby's, naysayers and conspiracy theorists sat down and shut up. It's over.
The area is crying out for new affordable homes and a community centre that's not falling down and once this misguided group of trouble makers accept they've lost the sooner the people of Boscombe will get their new community hub.

The Renegade Master wrote:
Once again common sense has prevailed over the Council bashers who've been determined to cause as much trouble as possible over this issue, so it's good news that their latest stalling measure has been thrown out.
The BCCA is a decrepit eye sore that's needed tearing down for years. The Council proposals for new housing and a community hall are the best outcome for this site and it's high time the nimby's, naysayers and conspiracy theorists sat down and shut up. It's over.
The area is crying out for new affordable homes and a community centre that's not falling down and once this misguided group of trouble makers accept they've lost the sooner the people of Boscombe will get their new community hub.

Seriously Renegade Master, how much are they paying you to say the same things over and over? The community thinks you are in fact Beesley.

So the BCCA friends are just a misguided group of trouble makers? conspiracy theorists? my god, you are so deluded from reality, is incredible, I wonder if you have even been involved with the BCCA at all, seeing as you are an expert at all these discussions.

Going by your previous comments in other articles it is clear you do not care about the community, liberty, freedom of speech or freedom to assemble... you however seem to worship the council's decisions.

Like I tell a lot of the people who post on here (who I know personally) you are not worth the effort at all and I ask all other members to ignore you in the future, you are just here to agitate with your non-sense and favoritism towards the councils decisions.

Look at the previous comments on this article, all support the BCCA, you are the only one attacking it and yet claiming is the best for the people... you should be a dictator, definitely your career path.

Your reply will be ignored.

Its almost not worth responding to Renegade Master, full of dis-information as usual. The building is not falling down, I went round with a structural engineer in March this year and its perfectly sound, i have a council report from 2010 putting costs of repair to get the building fully safe and working (including replacing the boiler system and pipes the council removed) at £73,000.

The affordable homes are needed but there are several other sites that could be used not at the expense of a much needed community resource. I have spoke to a local doctor who states categorically that there has been a rise in health and depression issues in the area since the closure of this site. I have a degree in Developmental Psychology and i have a firm understanding of the importance of socialising children and integrating with the community, do we want to live in a society where everyopne stays home in isolation and watches TV or plays XBox? If you think i am exaggerating this is exactly what was said to me by Lord Redesdale in the House of Lords when i picked up the award for Chaplins Bar.
I, myself, am astounded that the council has decided not to allow localism and the bid process to occur. When i was giving deputation at the cabinet meeting on behalf of the BCCA, the paperwork showed that the council fully realised that localism was coming into effect and had even allowed the possibility of 6 months delay to allow it to take place, something has changed since then.


I am in the process of setting up the Boscombe Arts collective with the view of putting together a robust self-sufficient business plan to re-open the BCCA (as well as other projects in the Boscombe Area) as well as myself and the Friends of the BCCA i know of at least 2 other groups who are interested in engaging in the BID process on this site. I appalled that the council has chosen to interpret "closed in the recent past" as a paltry 2 years especially as the guidance notes from central government say that each case should be assessed on a case by case basis and quotes an example of MOD land where in the recent past might be considered at 30 years.. The council is denying local people of an essential right as provided by LAW. This is especially pertinenent as nearly a thousand local people wrote to object to the planning submission and 700 more signed a petition to put the site out to a tendering process to be reopened for the community. Not only that but the critical report USED BY THE COUNCIL IN THE PLANNING PROCESS that stated there was sufficent community facility in the area (quoting 18 facilities which included bars and restaurants, my bar being one of these supposed community facilities) is now thrown into serious doubt as the Bournemouth 2026 has commissioned an independant audit into communty provison in the area. .

How on earth can Bournemouth 2026 even consider destroying this community facility that was bequethed to the people of Boscombe over 100years ago by Percy Shelley, in advance of the findings of this report. Will they build another community centre when the report shows what we all know:- that there is a dirth of community provision in the area!

Boscombe has a real chance to help its impoverished residents and set up a flagship community provision that will not opnly help local people but bring much needed footfall and business into Boscombe. I can visualise creative workshops a museum for the Writers Circle and Shelley family history and permanent art gallery, an arts cinema and community theatre and a vital hub for the community groups to meet and interact in many positive healthy ways, as well as providing much needed education and activity for the children of the area who really are suffering through this lack of amenities in the Boscombe area.

It is shocking to me that this whole process from start to finish(including the closing of the centre) has occurred with absolutely no effective consultation with the people who actually live and work in Boscombe, the boscombe community.

When the council and their quango trust Bournemouth 2026, complete this malicious and ill-considered deed, it will be to the long-term detriment of the area, 14 affordable homes will in no way make up for the loss of a facility that could have catered to the needs of the 20,000 residents of Boscombe who live around and in the most deprived are in the South West.

I truly despair at the obvious lack of common sense and foresight that is being displayed by the leader of the council, the cabinet and the local councillors (who stay particularily quiet on this issue despite the massive local outcry)

Thank you for your childish and unnecessary personal attack and also your assumptions about me Xality.
So now I'm being paid to post comments that disagree with your viewpoint on the Echo forum am I? Really? By who? When does my pay cheque arrive because I haven't seen one yet! If you're going to make silly remarks like that you should be able to back that up with some evidence, right? Oh whoops no you can't, because like all conspiracy theorists you're wrong. You'll just have to accept that I have a different opinion to yours ok, deal with it.
I can understand your frustration at not getting one over on the Council this time, but I'm sure there are plenty of other issues you can now focus your attention on. Perhaps something worthwhile next time.

It is also worth noting that most councils in the uk have chosen to interpret "in the recent past" as 5 years not as is Bournemouth's case, 2 years. Also I seem to remember that the building was opened to the public in March of this year for 6 weeks and it was used by the public. Ownership was in question as the land was protected for local people by a covenant and the council had never registered the land when it was given the task of looking after it by Dorset County Council (which itself is an offense). This is why the eviction process took so long.

hrryseccombe wrote:
Its almost not worth responding to Renegade Master, full of dis-information as usual. The building is not falling down, I went round with a structural engineer in March this year and its perfectly sound, i have a council report from 2010 putting costs of repair to get the building fully safe and working (including replacing the boiler system and pipes the council removed) at £73,000.

The affordable homes are needed but there are several other sites that could be used not at the expense of a much needed community resource. I have spoke to a local doctor who states categorically that there has been a rise in health and depression issues in the area since the closure of this site. I have a degree in Developmental Psychology and i have a firm understanding of the importance of socialising children and integrating with the community, do we want to live in a society where everyopne stays home in isolation and watches TV or plays XBox? If you think i am exaggerating this is exactly what was said to me by Lord Redesdale in the House of Lords when i picked up the award for Chaplins Bar.
I, myself, am astounded that the council has decided not to allow localism and the bid process to occur. When i was giving deputation at the cabinet meeting on behalf of the BCCA, the paperwork showed that the council fully realised that localism was coming into effect and had even allowed the possibility of 6 months delay to allow it to take place, something has changed since then.


I am in the process of setting up the Boscombe Arts collective with the view of putting together a robust self-sufficient business plan to re-open the BCCA (as well as other projects in the Boscombe Area) as well as myself and the Friends of the BCCA i know of at least 2 other groups who are interested in engaging in the BID process on this site. I appalled that the council has chosen to interpret "closed in the recent past" as a paltry 2 years especially as the guidance notes from central government say that each case should be assessed on a case by case basis and quotes an example of MOD land where in the recent past might be considered at 30 years.. The council is denying local people of an essential right as provided by LAW. This is especially pertinenent as nearly a thousand local people wrote to object to the planning submission and 700 more signed a petition to put the site out to a tendering process to be reopened for the community. Not only that but the critical report USED BY THE COUNCIL IN THE PLANNING PROCESS that stated there was sufficent community facility in the area (quoting 18 facilities which included bars and restaurants, my bar being one of these supposed community facilities) is now thrown into serious doubt as the Bournemouth 2026 has commissioned an independant audit into communty provison in the area. .

How on earth can Bournemouth 2026 even consider destroying this community facility that was bequethed to the people of Boscombe over 100years ago by Percy Shelley, in advance of the findings of this report. Will they build another community centre when the report shows what we all know:- that there is a dirth of community provision in the area!

Boscombe has a real chance to help its impoverished residents and set up a flagship community provision that will not opnly help local people but bring much needed footfall and business into Boscombe. I can visualise creative workshops a museum for the Writers Circle and Shelley family history and permanent art gallery, an arts cinema and community theatre and a vital hub for the community groups to meet and interact in many positive healthy ways, as well as providing much needed education and activity for the children of the area who really are suffering through this lack of amenities in the Boscombe area.

It is shocking to me that this whole process from start to finish(including the closing of the centre) has occurred with absolutely no effective consultation with the people who actually live and work in Boscombe, the boscombe community.

When the council and their quango trust Bournemouth 2026, complete this malicious and ill-considered deed, it will be to the long-term detriment of the area, 14 affordable homes will in no way make up for the loss of a facility that could have catered to the needs of the 20,000 residents of Boscombe who live around and in the most deprived are in the South West.

I truly despair at the obvious lack of common sense and foresight that is being displayed by the leader of the council, the cabinet and the local councillors (who stay particularily quiet on this issue despite the massive local outcry)

The Council have made their decision. Accept it and move on. I'm sure there are plenty of other more important issues facing Boscombe than a decrepit and derelict building being replaced with a community centre and affordable housing at NO EXPENSE to local tax payers. How about putting your efforts into doing something that would help tackle the areas shameful drink and drug problem?

The Renegade Master wrote:
Once again common sense has prevailed over the Council bashers who've been determined to cause as much trouble as possible over this issue, so it's good news that their latest stalling measure has been thrown out. The BCCA is a decrepit eye sore that's needed tearing down for years. The Council proposals for new housing and a community hall are the best outcome for this site and it's high time the nimby's, naysayers and conspiracy theorists sat down and shut up. It's over. The area is crying out for new affordable homes and a community centre that's not falling down and once this misguided group of trouble makers accept they've lost the sooner the people of Boscombe will get their new community hub.

Do you ever set foot in Boscombe? It’s a centre of excellence for neglect, crying out for something better and more constructive to do round there than end up developing a drink problem or drug addiction, and the BCCA friends want to pitch in and make a positive contribution to their community. Can’t help noticing that you, RM, have consistently knocked any effort to revive the BCCA by these well meaning campaigners. Almost as if you have some kind of vested interest in the development, especially as you use the term “council bashing”. I see no troublemaking. Just an effort to do something worthwhile which is being blocked by a pretty shady council that’s obsessed with property development. Which, unless it directly affects you, really can’t count as troublemaking, can it?

This Renegade Master guy is a joke!!! Have you noticed that you are the only one who consistently voices an opinion which is contrary to the VAST majority of the population of Boscombe? We have!! You are a loner. You don't have any friends do you? Sad isn't it? You don't get invited to parties either do you? This is just a way for you to get jollies. I'd love to meet you. You're welcome to come to one of my parties. I'm sure you'd be most entertaining. We'd have such a great time listening to you try to contradict everyone there.

"Thank you for your childish and unnecessary personal attack and also your assumptions about me" RM


No such stuff from you, eh RM ? Apart from .....

"Council bashers

the nimby's, naysayers and conspiracy theorists

misguided group of trouble makers .” RM

11 houses are to be built and 2 demolished - so only 9 homes will be gained in Boscombe ....not 14 as the Echo states.
A cinema; workshop space for working creatives (that means artists of all kinds like furniture makers; potters; software engineers; painters; fashion designers etc.) as well as a Shelley museum and loads of other things will be lost if the BCCA is demolished. So this means we will lose an asset to attract tourists to central Boscombe - so less trade, less jobs, more on the dole and benefits, more crime; unfortunately these things all go hand in hand and are well documented.
Whoever runs the 3 rooms left for a "hub" will - according to the Council Leader, John Beesley in a Council meeting last year and in a Council report - have to be self-funding. That means they cannot rely on any Council money or charity money...so any income they get for hiring out the 3 rooms will have to pay for the heating, lighting, maintenance and any staff...so this is simply not realistic.
The same Council documents state that the "allotments" can only be used by the people who will live on the BCCA site....so basically the demolition will benefit 9 families at the cost to the rest of the community.
Meanwhile, another £3.2 million is to be spent on Boscombe beach....obviously its worth investing more on the beach (having already spent £12.5 million on a surf reef that is languishing limply on the sand; beach pods (huts) that no one will buy and the pier that has no attractions on). None of this money aided central Boscombe in fact its got far worse during this time. Don't they say that if you keep doing the same thing time after time but expect different results there is something wrong with your brain?
And by the way, the Shelley theatre is still derelict.

Forgot to say, I've seen the Council's report dated 2 years ago ....it states it would cost £73,000 to reinstate the BCCA, which BCCA Friends have never asked the Council to produce....residents and businesses in Boscombe are happy to pull up their sleeves and do the work themselves!!!

Stuart Gauntlett wrote:
This Renegade Master guy is a joke!!! Have you noticed that you are the only one who consistently voices an opinion which is contrary to the VAST majority of the population of Boscombe? We have!! You are a loner. You don't have any friends do you? Sad isn't it? You don't get invited to parties either do you? This is just a way for you to get jollies. I'd love to meet you. You're welcome to come to one of my parties. I'm sure you'd be most entertaining. We'd have such a great time listening to you try to contradict everyone there.

He may well be a councillor!!!?......
and doesn't like the truth.

I think RM seems to do a good service in demonstrating the contempt the council hold for council tax payers and businesses in Boscombe.

At a presentation by the Boscombe Regeneration lot they had no ideas, nothing sustainable. They were trying to get private landlords and organisations to lend the community buildings. They hadnt got any. They are displaying art in the empty shop windows. Well that will tart the place up. Meanwhile my teenager still has nothing constructive to do round here. I am willing to pay for activities if there were any in the area. As a working widow I would really like my son to be able to do something educational and interesting locally and I will pay for that. Stop treating us as bloody charity cases. We want proper sustainable businesses in the area. That is what the community wants the BCCA for. Education! Jobs! Tourism.

I tell you what disband the Boscombe Regeneration group of bandits who are robbing us blind and use their salaries to do up the BCCA. Bet they get paid alot more than 73K. We will see what REALLY makes a difference to Boscombe.

Perhaps the council could get Wayne Hemingway to design the interiors of these new 'hub pods'. Gladsone Road, the new Shore Road as the phone lines go into meltdown as they are released into the market.


ps perhaps someone could ask the council what will be the criteria (if any) for those wishing to by one of these affordable homes

Bob49 wrote:
Perhaps the council could get Wayne Hemingway to design the interiors of these new 'hub pods'. Gladsone Road, the new Shore Road as the phone lines go into meltdown as they are released into the market.


ps perhaps someone could ask the council what will be the criteria (if any) for those wishing to by one of these affordable homes

Err the brown envelope with the most cash gets first dibs on the house...

yet again we are shown what disregard the council has for local interests. so if the wishes of the people of Boscombe were taken into account they would have no choice but to hand back what is rightfully their's by the covenant lay down by Shelley, I believe the only reason the council have fought so hard on this issue is they stand to lose a lot if they don't get their way with the BCCA. these dirty tactic by those in power has to stop when the people of Boscombe have tried peacefully to use their rights to save something that was much loved which could also serve future purpose for the community if reopened.

Lest we forget who is pulling the strings.,,..

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council leaders under investigation over conduct. the same ones whom have obstructed the development of new facilities in Boscombe when it doesn't fund their pocket. until steps are taken to remove them from the council office to a prison cells, those fighting to save a local asset will repeatedly come up against bent councilors whom share their views. what is need is needed is a freedom of information request show in the type of planning applications approve and refused by our local government over the last decade i think you would certainly find what our councilors interests and priorities are.
further more those saying the people involved are not being real i say to you they feel passionate about this cause and wont let it die on its knees they're not being childish there just being real to who they are. those who live day to day in Boscombe know whats needed and have tried on more than one occasion to put this forward.Harry Seccombe runs Chaplins bar and has dealt with the varieties of people Boscombe has to offer so if any one has a rite to speak he does. he has been Boscombes advocate through this hole process. he has taken shellys spirit to see Boscombe return to better days. so if you want boscombe to remain run down and a place for crime and the abuse of substances stop the good work going on but if you don't want to see Boscombe that way get involved take care of your town and do good for a change.

Jonse svenson wrote:
council leaders under investigation over conduct. the same ones whom have obstructed the development of new facilities in Boscombe when it doesn't fund their pocket. until steps are taken to remove them from the council office to a prison cells, those fighting to save a local asset will repeatedly come up against bent councilors whom share their views. what is need is needed is a freedom of information request show in the type of planning applications approve and refused by our local government over the last decade i think you would certainly find what our councilors interests and priorities are.
further more those saying the people involved are not being real i say to you they feel passionate about this cause and wont let it die on its knees they're not being childish there just being real to who they are. those who live day to day in Boscombe know whats needed and have tried on more than one occasion to put this forward.Harry Seccombe runs Chaplins bar and has dealt with the varieties of people Boscombe has to offer so if any one has a rite to speak he does. he has been Boscombes advocate through this hole process. he has taken shellys spirit to see Boscombe return to better days. so if you want boscombe to remain run down and a place for crime and the abuse of substances stop the good work going on but if you don't want to see Boscombe that way get involved take care of your town and do good for a change.

Hear hear!

I wish they would remove posts which are direct attacks on individuals. There are a couple of people on these threads who could stick to trolling if they find it fun, but lay off the personal attacks on those who residents know are trying to help Central Boscombe, not sell it down the river.

The sad fact is that councillors don't want Boscombe to be regenerated. It's not in their financial interests for Boscombe to improve. They only get funding when Boscombe is shown to have various problems. If Boscombe becomes a little more self reliant, corrupt individuals fear they would lose their jobs because central government could afford to give less funding to Boscombe's cause. The only way to be sure is get out the current council and get someone new who can stand up to the council officers and make sure they do what they are told. Not what allows them to give free land to business owners that chair a board that claims to be the face of Boscombe. They don't ask people of Boscombe what they want because they say they aren't educated enough to know what they want for themselves. They don't do surveys independantly they just come up with quick fixes that will require funding to build and then more to demolish. It's surely obvious that this cycle must be broken for anything lasting and meaningful can happen in Boscombe at all. Oh and by the way my name is spelt "S-T-U" not "S-T-E-W".

oh and by the way. it seems that only those that are supportive of the BCCA are honest enough to have their real names up here. If you really believe that your views match up with those of the people of Boscombe and the readers of the ECHO then why not come out from behind your alias'? If you don't you must agree by proxy that your comments are inflammatory and offensive. My theory is that's why we don't know your names.

as a father i have an interest in what will come of the bcca as my daughter lives with my fiancee in boscombe. the time i have spent in and around boscombe i have seen the issues i have lived the view points in and have a fair idea whats going on.and can see all sides. i would like to see my daughter grow up in an environment where i know her life wont be effected by current issues in and around boscombe. if the bcca is saved my daughter would have a safe and creative place to go in her spare time for hobbies and personal development. i just think its a shame that this issue has rumbled on so long. i would love to get involved in the renovation of the bcca. but while the council continue in there course of action, we stand to see a day where we lose a historical asset to brute force and ignorance if that happens it will be a sad day for the whole of boscombe.

Oooh, I see my answer to some spoilt little childs comments has been removed yet their's has stayed put...no big surprise really when you know that big sis works/worked for (and still has links with) the B'mth Echo, dear oh dear what a bunch of self-interested swizzlers that family are!

verityvita wrote:
Oooh, I see my answer to some spoilt little childs comments has been removed yet their's has stayed put...no big surprise really when you know that big sis works/worked for (and still has links with) the B'mth Echo, dear oh dear what a bunch of self-interested swizzlers that family are!

Would you like cod with that chip on your shoulder ...

verityvita wrote:
Oooh, I see my answer to some spoilt little childs comments has been removed yet their's has stayed put...no big surprise really when you know that big sis works/worked for (and still has links with) the B'mth Echo, dear oh dear what a bunch of self-interested swizzlers that family are!

yeah well seeing as she no longer lives in the country and has neither a landline or internet, even I myself must have underestimated her resourcefulness in maintaining connections with an ex-employer, with such regularity that she could influence the editor of the newspaper themself. Again, as I said, you're already admitting that your comments are insulting and inflammatory by hiding behind an alias. I haven't hid. You know my name and you know what I have to say. I'm not worried about that because I believe what I say is of value to the cause. Can the same be true of your comments? Even if believe they are of value, it makes no difference if you have an alias and continue trying to personally attack. You just look suspicious and rather silly quite frankly. love and kisses Stuart Gauntlett xxx

verityvita wrote:
Oooh, I see my answer to some spoilt little childs comments has been removed yet their's has stayed put...no big surprise really when you know that big sis works/worked for (and still has links with) the B'mth Echo, dear oh dear what a bunch of self-interested swizzlers that family are!

Blimey!!! Your upset aren't you? Not surprising though considering what your previous comment was.
As for Renegade Master and Verityvita - one in the same - I think we should never comment on her/his comments or any other commentators, who provide mud slinging useless comments; there's simply no point guys.
I've heard through the grapevine that all this is either going in the national press (I heard the Guardian or Independent) or in a Dispatches programme.....can anyone enlighten me??

Stuart Gauntlett wrote:

verityvita wrote:
Oooh, I see my answer to some spoilt little childs comments has been removed yet their's has stayed put...no big surprise really when you know that big sis works/worked for (and still has links with) the B'mth Echo, dear oh dear what a bunch of self-interested swizzlers that family are!

yeah well seeing as she no longer lives in the country and has neither a landline or internet, even I myself must have underestimated her resourcefulness in maintaining connections with an ex-employer, with such regularity that she could influence the editor of the newspaper themself. Again, as I said, you're already admitting that your comments are insulting and inflammatory by hiding behind an alias. I haven't hid. You know my name and you know what I have to say. I'm not worried about that because I believe what I say is of value to the cause. Can the same be true of your comments? Even if believe they are of value, it makes no difference if you have an alias and continue trying to personally attack. You just look suspicious and rather silly quite frankly. love and kisses Stuart Gauntlett xxx

Dear stewie, grow up, oh, but when you post stuff like this on FB perhaps you never will-
''For example "Why shouldn't I kill my neighbour?" ( not that I want to it's just an example) Well, if you're grateful to be alive than surely you have agreed that life is a gift. We've also established that you can't place you're gratitude to your parents cos "who or what created them and so on???" so, life is simply a gift. When someone gives you a gift how do you respond? I: by saying thankyou. P: Well you can't thank the source of your creation directly but you can respect the fact that your neighbour's life is also a gift to him/her and to you. so, therefore you can't give thanks to anything if you kill them. Unless killing you see killing yourself as being a sign of gratitude for being alive. See what i mean? We might not need books like the bible for this sort of stuff and we can still be atheist.''

Didn't the therapy work?
Bahahhahaha.....now who is 'looking rather silly, quite frankly'
Love and kisses, me,(grateful to be alive ;-0 hehehehehe) xxxxxxxxx
Not going to answer you anymore, you are not worth it, and PS: if your relative has no connection to internet how come they are on FB then?
Taraa chucky...mwah

The people of Boscombe need to stop bleating, they get more money and more attention than any other area of the town. The BCCA has had its day. Even if its only a few, homes are needed and a new centre in coming too. Why don't they campaign against all the halfway houses in the area or isn't one the people behind resurrecting the BCCA actually linked to the man who brings these desperates to our town?

juniperberry wrote:
The people of Boscombe need to stop bleating, they get more money and more attention than any other area of the town. The BCCA has had its day. Even if its only a few, homes are needed and a new centre in coming too. Why don't they campaign against all the halfway houses in the area or isn't one the people behind resurrecting the BCCA actually linked to the man who brings these desperates to our town?

boscombe wont lay down on the matter when it comes to BCCA many feel strongly about it. also there are groups in the area whom are tackling the drugs problem including the council and police initiative. in a recent report it was highlight Boscombe halfway house problem. recommendations were made and the first steps towards dealing with the problem were taken. though Boscombe's receives much attention and money it has seen little or no change in the town. it is good to have this focused effort but it shouldn't stop there. its about improving Boscombe for the better. the point the BCCA group makes, is they want housing in Boscombe, but not on the bcca site which could be put to better use as a place for its people. housing and substance abuse are just two in a long list of problems all revolving round social-economic issues, which adds to people felling desperate, and looking at escapism as a way out of their problems.

juniperberry wrote:
The people of Boscombe need to stop bleating, they get more money and more attention than any other area of the town. The BCCA has had its day. Even if its only a few, homes are needed and a new centre in coming too. Why don't they campaign against all the halfway houses in the area or isn't one the people behind resurrecting the BCCA actually linked to the man who brings these desperates to our town?

Hi verity, renegade, juniper...Chris!!!!

The fact this is in the Echo is a good thing for the people fighting for the BCCA. Most stories do not get in the ECHO because it is run and overseen by the council. Maybe because there is negative interest in 2nd in command at the council's alliances let there be some justice to the people of Boscombe. They need a community centre, the arts is a proven way to help the needy, the poor need to be cheered up not given more deprivation. All the money poured into boscombe has gone on the seafront and not where it needs to be- in the centre. Even the amount that's been spent down there is spurious in that what's gone in and what's actually been done, doesn't add up. Where does the rest of the money go? i wonder?Is this a poverty industry? Its looking like it. I really hope that anyone who knows anything goes to the national press immediately these crooks need to be stopped right now and locked up. It's these people who take from the poor and needy that ruin this country. Like in Iceland they need to be stopped, that will only happen with the community going to the local groups and speaking up. If there is enough evidence to show the councillors are not working for the people they can be removed.

Went to the Boscombe Forum and saw the 3 year plans... nothing sustainable.

Where is the money that is supposedly pouring into Boscombe? 3.5 million going to the seafront, 2 million to demolish the IMAX. Nothing for Boscombe Central. But Boscombe residents don't want massive funding, we just want them to allow the community to reopen the BCCA and establish it as a community and arts centre. Something unique to Bournemouth which will attract visitors and give locals business opportunities and jobs and provide educational activities and personal development for our kids.

Have you seen where the children of Boscombe hang out after school? Our 24 hour Macdonalds. Inside they can eat junk food and outside they can watch open drug dealing, street drinking and fighting. According to the Councils report they have adequate community facilities which are listed in their documents as the pub or the GP surgery. Unbelievable!

The councils own documents state that Boscombe could be regenerated through the Arts, yet during Arts month there was nothing in Central Boscombe. It is an absolute scandal.