County street lights switch-off 'will cause more crashes'

A CONTROVERSIAL policy to switch off street lights across Dorset is “ill-conceived and inflexible,” a councillor has claimed.

The county council is being urged to go back to the drawing board and rethink some aspects of its cost-cutting policy to switch off street lights between midnight and 5.30am.

Liberal Democrat group leader Cllr Janet Dover fears the move will lead to an increase in accidents in Colehill, where the lights are about to be turned off.

She is angry that Colehill’s traffic calming measures will be unlit and accused the county council of ignoring residents.

“It’s ill-conceived, the policy is much too rigid and they are not listening to the residents and making pragmatic compromises,” she said.

“They would only need to keep six lights on to illuminate the traffic calming scheme in Colehill. If they were humps, rather than build-outs, they would keep the lights on but there is no flexibility.”

The policy has also sparked concerns from shift workers, who have to walk to and from work in the dark.

Sam Hart, the group HR manager at Pork Farms in Shaftesbury, said: “Our staff on night and early morning shifts have to walk through the estate in darkness, which they don’t like. They worry about missing their footing and feel it is unsafe.

“Our employees have complained and complained and we have had to tell them it is out of our hands. “We understand the council needs to save money but we wonder why they can’t install motion detectors or something like that.”

Shaftesbury Central Cllr Derek Beer said: “There are three factories in one area of Shaftesbury and it’s intimidating for their night shift workers to have to walk to and from work in pitch darkness.”

The permanent switch-off is currently being rolled out across the county. It affects lights in residential roads and areas deemed “not essential” and is set to save the council £150,000 a year.

Mike Winter, head of highways management at Dorset County Council, said the switch-off did not affect town centres, areas with high crime, roads with high traffic flows or areas with road humps and roundabouts.

“We aim to save a minimum £150,000 a year from the scheme, which will ease pressure on other highways services.

“A link hasn’t been found between part-night streetlighting and crime and we haven’t seen any increases in crime during the early hours of the morning in any of the areas completed so far.”

Comments(19)

Teddy 1 says...
9:20am Sat 12 Jan 13

So Mr Winter, why are the lights going back in in Weymouth if there is no link to crime?

Teddy 1 says...
9:21am Sat 12 Jan 13

Should have read ..'back on in Weymouth...'

Old Colonial says...
10:18am Sat 12 Jan 13

Why, oh why, do councils always have to do things the hard way, and the one that will cause the most unrest and inconvenience to people? Is it just to show how 'powerful' they think they are?

Surely simply buy switching off alternate lights everywhere, the savings would be higher than with this selective hotch-potch approach.

P Barker says...
10:23am Sat 12 Jan 13

Why would this lead to crashes ?. Cars do have headlights. Not all rural roads have lighting. The Ringwood to Salisbry is only partly lit, and there isnt road accidents every night.

winton50 says...
10:51am Sat 12 Jan 13

Perhaps then Cllr Dover and the residents that are complaining would like to pay the £150k themselves to light their streets.

Thought not

geoffro says...
11:11am Sat 12 Jan 13

cars have lights people have torches what seems to be the problem.I live in a small village no street lights here and yes no crime either we sort it our selves

Capricorn 1 says...
11:28am Sat 12 Jan 13

geoffro wrote:
cars have lights people have torches what seems to be the problem.I live in a small village no street lights here and yes no crime either we sort it our selves
You beat me to it!

I have one of those new fangled things called a torch!

Mudefordman says...
11:43am Sat 12 Jan 13

where I live on a senoir living complex (mostly in our 70s, 80s, 90s) the council has been doing it since last October and when the lights go off it's pitch black outside and there is no security light on our building, so if there was a fire god knows what will happen. I have complained about it but to no joy

Capricorn 1 says...
11:52am Sat 12 Jan 13

More likely to cause crashes are the idiots who fail to switch on their dipped headlights when driving in adverse conditions.

apm1954 says...
12:09pm Sat 12 Jan 13

we have seen the light , get rid of the lib dem /tory government the cllrs are members of there parties blame them

PolskiFiat says...
12:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

This is nanny state nonsense. The street lights never used to be on all night and we all coped without murder and carnage in the streets. Keeping streetlights on all hours is a huge waste of money and staggeringly bad for the environment.

Turtlebay says...
1:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

The only way to tell if a road has a 30MPH limit is if there are regular lamp posts.
If they are switched off it can be argued in law that the limit could not be ascertained!

The Renegade Master says...
1:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

All residential street lights should be switched off between midnight and 6am to save money. Very few people are out and about at that time of day and those that are will just have to get used to it. Think of the savings and reduced carbon emissions if this idea was adopted nationwide.
Still, I guess the naysayers wouldn't welcome a possible reduction in their Council Tax charges or extra funding for essential services that this excellent initiative would help pay for!
The other very welcome bonus from switching the lights off is that we could all witness what a starry night looks like with little or no light pollution!

paul.p says...
1:32pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I help pay for street lights and yet the council switch the things off. I help pay for the Police force but they're disappearing too, what's next, 6 monthly bin collections?

Letcommonsenseprevail says...
3:49pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Corfe Mullen have had no lights from midnight to 5am for months, and as far as I'm aware - no problems.... Pull your fingers out your arses and turn them all off!

Letcommonsenseprevail says...
3:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Turtlebay wrote:
The only way to tell if a road has a 30MPH limit is if there are regular lamp posts.
If they are switched off it can be argued in law that the limit could not be ascertained!
Do you drive around at night with your headlights switched off then?

skydriver says...
5:42pm Sat 12 Jan 13

No doubt some of those ultra bright councillors will come up with idea to pull out all street lighting and sell them for scrap and the cash going into doing some another hair brain idea. This is the 21st century street are there for a reason for goodness sake use them. The reader who wrote of using a torch, I bet he uses it his home as well, we all pay enough council tax to pay for street lighting so put them back on.
This is the will of the people ,it should be our decision NOT a few councillors who believe what they say is right.its our streets not theirs'.
When is it voting time again??!

SeafaringMan says...
6:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Old Colonial wrote:
Why, oh why, do councils always have to do things the hard way, and the one that will cause the most unrest and inconvenience to people? Is it just to show how 'powerful' they think they are?

Surely simply buy switching off alternate lights everywhere, the savings would be higher than with this selective hotch-potch approach.
I don't think that this would be possible without a man going around turning off every other light. I imagine that they are all on one circuit.

The Timelord says...
9:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13

paul.p wrote:
I help pay for street lights and yet the council switch the things off. I help pay for the Police force but they're disappearing too, what's next, 6 monthly bin collections?
Come one - bin collections once every two weeks is quite adequate!

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