Four Jimmy Savile abuse claims in Dorset

10:41am Friday 11th January 2013 in News By Paula Roberts

Four Jimmy Savile abuse claims in Dorset Four Jimmy Savile abuse claims in Dorset

FOUR people in Dorset have come forward to say they were abused by disgraced TV presenter Jimmy Savile.

The victims made contact with the police following the launch of Operation Yewtree – a dedicated investigation set up following the death of the Jim’ll Fix It star.

A report by Scotland Yard and the NSPCC published this morning has revealed that four people have made allegations to Dorset Police they were sexually abused by Savile and three in Hampshire.

The report states that Savile was ''a prolific, predatory sex offender'' who could have been prosecuted for offences against at least three victims while he was alive.

The disgraced TV presenter used his celebrity status to ''hide in plain sight'', with 214 criminal offences now recorded against him across 28 police forces.

It also revealed that Savile abused his victims at 14 medical sites including hospitals, mental health units and even a hospice.

Alison Levitt QC, legal adviser to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP), said Savile could have been prosecuted in 2009 had police taken victims more seriously.

DPP Keir Starmer said: ''I would like to take the opportunity to apologise for the shortcomings in the part played by the CPS in these cases.

''If this report and my apology are to serve their full purpose, then this must be seen as a watershed moment.''

A total of 450 people have come forward alleging sexual abuse against Savile since October, and within the recorded crimes, there are 34 rapes and 126 indecent acts, the police and NSPCC report said.

Of his victims, 73 per cent were children, with the total victim age range between eight and 47 years old at the time of the offences.

Commander Peter Spindler, who is leading the national investigation into Savile's abuse, said: ''Savile's offending footprint was vast, predatory and opportunistic. He cannot face justice today, but we hope this report gives some comfort to his hundreds of victims. They have been listened to and taken seriously.''

Mr Spindler said so far 617 people had made contact with officers investigating claims against Savile and other figures in the entertainment industry, with 450 directly relating to Savile.

The police report found that the earliest reported offence committed by Savile was in Manchester in 1955, and the final reported allegation was in 2009.

The offences cover the period when Savile worked at the BBC between 1965 and 2006 and include allegations linked to the final recording of Top of the Pops.

They also involve the period when he worked at Leeds General Infirmary between 1965 and 1995.

Abuse at Stoke Mandeville Hospital took place between 1965 and 1988, while at Duncroft School, a children's home, the allegations cover a period between 1970 and 1978.

The peak was between 1966 and 1976, when he was aged between 40 and 50.

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pete woodley says...
10:44am Fri 11 Jan 13

What about the people who covered for him ?.

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Burton Saint says...
10:52am Fri 11 Jan 13

Surprised only four. Lots of rumours/gossip about when he owned the nightclubs locally. Favours returned for cigarettes and alcohol. Only gossip?

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Melanie.Read12 says...
10:56am Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
What about the people who covered for him ?.
I agree Pete - there had to be complicit parties for him to get away with it.
This is what needs looking at and addressing now, rather than the blurring of the parameters of Yewtree.
Jimmy Savile was a predatory paedophile, Jim Davidson allegedly slept with two women in their 20's - so why is the arrest of Davidson deemed more important for the Police to investigate, than people (at the BBC or otherwise) who aided or covered up this prolific sexual child abuse?

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ifordanglia says...
11:07am Fri 11 Jan 13

Did anyone else hear Liz Dux (lawyer for the victims, so she should know) let slip in an interview this morning on BBC that "80% of the victims were female".
Meaning what?... 1 in 5 were male.....???
Not heard that before.

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pete woodley says...
11:20am Fri 11 Jan 13

ifordanglia wrote:
Did anyone else hear Liz Dux (lawyer for the victims, so she should know) let slip in an interview this morning on BBC that "80% of the victims were female".
Meaning what?... 1 in 5 were male.....???
Not heard that before.
Not surprised at all,a lot of locals could tell more,but for some reason do not.

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TD61 says...
11:31am Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
ifordanglia wrote:
Did anyone else hear Liz Dux (lawyer for the victims, so she should know) let slip in an interview this morning on BBC that "80% of the victims were female".
Meaning what?... 1 in 5 were male.....???
Not heard that before.
Not surprised at all,a lot of locals could tell more,but for some reason do not.
And why should they "tell more"? It's no bodies business but theirs and if they chose to keep quiet about it, that's up to them surely?

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pete woodley says...
11:38am Fri 11 Jan 13

TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.

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scrumpyjack says...
11:48am Fri 11 Jan 13

ifordanglia wrote:
Did anyone else hear Liz Dux (lawyer for the victims, so she should know) let slip in an interview this morning on BBC that "80% of the victims were female".
Meaning what?... 1 in 5 were male.....???
Not heard that before.
He liked little boys under 10.

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alpha43 says...
11:55am Fri 11 Jan 13

oh dear oh dear what a bunch of incompetents the WHOLE of the uk police force seems to be! HHHHMMM

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justsayithowitis says...
11:58am Fri 11 Jan 13

I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.

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EdBmth says...
12:10pm Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
What about the people who covered for him ?.
Very true. There were so many rumours around even before his death yet nothing was done.

The questions don't just need to be asked of the police, the hospitals and the BBC but also of the national press who failed to investigate this time and time again. Why did they keep quiet ? They seem more than capable of discovering the liasons between 2 consenting adults and splashing them across the front pages yet somehow fail completely to investigate these far more serious allegations.

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andyjb10 says...
12:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?

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retry69 says...
12:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

It does make you wonder if some of the posters on here and on previous threads had perhaps made their concerns known at the time,(as they seemed to be in the know so much) he may have been stopped a long time ago.

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justsayithowitis says...
12:47pm Fri 11 Jan 13

andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him

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abidah says...
12:48pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Police locally and nationally knew about Jimmy Saville as did the celebrities who are currently bleeting in public about the sudden shock of discovering the abuse alleged by hundreds of people nationwide. The authorities systematically covered it all up; hushed any allegation up using threats and intimidation against accusers. Accusers were also mistreated and attacked still further by those people in authority who should have helped them. I have made another claim against a former police officer who was aware of the Saville abuse from the early 1970's and the police refuse to investigate still. Despite hundreds of people making allegations the police fail to act and all this spanning some 40 years.

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retry69 says...
1:51pm Fri 11 Jan 13

abidah wrote:
Police locally and nationally knew about Jimmy Saville as did the celebrities who are currently bleeting in public about the sudden shock of discovering the abuse alleged by hundreds of people nationwide. The authorities systematically covered it all up; hushed any allegation up using threats and intimidation against accusers. Accusers were also mistreated and attacked still further by those people in authority who should have helped them. I have made another claim against a former police officer who was aware of the Saville abuse from the early 1970's and the police refuse to investigate still. Despite hundreds of people making allegations the police fail to act and all this spanning some 40 years.
Admittedly there was some failings in certain areas but the people that allowed the cover up are the general public that knew what was going on, not unlike some that are commenting on here.If you knew about any abuse wouldnt you make sure something was done about it or would you sit back and watch while nothing was done?

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andyjb10 says...
2:03pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here

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elite50 says...
2:12pm Fri 11 Jan 13

B.F.G wrote:
elite50 wrote:
B.F.G wrote:
Now then, now then, what about Ken Bailey? How's about him then...
Woah!
I was a kid when Ken Bailey was around.
He was a bloke who had a lot of money, a cleft palate and was so pro British that it was embarrassing.
He used to dress up like the "British Bulldog" and was always there when anything to do with promoting "the locals" was on.
He acted like the village idiot but there was never a hint of any wrongdoing from him.
We were, as we thought, pretty awake-up to any oddballs and perverts but Ken was accepted.
One even slightly off-colour move would have killed his acceptability.
Either make a statement or back off!
Bailey was a fiddler, a Dorset version of Savile.

Never a hint of any wrong doing? do me a favour, he was rife with young boys. Perhaps you weren't his type?

Unfortunately this topic will get vaped before any further discussion can take place.
I was there.
I was a kid that always hung back and watched.
I grew up and he was always odd but never went over (or near) the limit.
Jimmy Saville stood out like a sore thumb.
Ken Bailley just tried to be accepted.
A lot of my mates were swimming or track stars but never had a problem with him.
I know that I am not wrong in my assessment.
Please PROVE me wrong!

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justsayithowitis says...
2:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you

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spooki says...
2:54pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you
Quite! The people involved at the time allegedly reported it but nothing was done. So how come they're believing it all now? Because he's dead.
I find it inexcusable that the BBC, police and whoever else knew about this 'man' but covered it up due, I assume, to his fame. People like this should be stamped out straight away not happily sent to places where there are vulnerable children/teens. There should be an investigation into the whole thing but it might not make victims or those who knew feel any better. Some kind of justice I suppose?

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Dr Strangelove says...
2:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

scrumpyjack wrote:
ifordanglia wrote:
Did anyone else hear Liz Dux (lawyer for the victims, so she should know) let slip in an interview this morning on BBC that "80% of the victims were female".
Meaning what?... 1 in 5 were male.....???
Not heard that before.
He liked little boys under 10.
Careful next you will be saying you don't like the "look" of them as if they were ?

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andyjb10 says...
3:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you
It's clear he did it, what is not needed is people claiming they, or someone they know, or who an ex colleague once knew etc, harping on about how obvious it was at the time.

You know no more than me or the next person.

You are basing your judgement on what you read in the Daily Mail.

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retry69 says...
3:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

spooki wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you
Quite! The people involved at the time allegedly reported it but nothing was done. So how come they're believing it all now? Because he's dead.
I find it inexcusable that the BBC, police and whoever else knew about this 'man' but covered it up due, I assume, to his fame. People like this should be stamped out straight away not happily sent to places where there are vulnerable children/teens. There should be an investigation into the whole thing but it might not make victims or those who knew feel any better. Some kind of justice I suppose?
Whats inexcusable is pointing the finger at everyone covering it up, based as you rightly say assumption and the people who allegedly reported let it drop,that is just insane and blatantly irresponsible and foolish.He could have been stopped years ago but the public failed in their duty to society

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Tig says...
3:23pm Fri 11 Jan 13

The full report into the Jimmy Savile scandal is here:-
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http://tinyurl.com/b
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Dr Strangelove says...
3:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
You need to pass the facts on that you claim onto the police about who knew what. May be the editor could help yewtree with your email so that your knowledge of who knows what can help them, I mean you wouldn't want to hinder an investigation would you.

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TD61 says...
4:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.
Does it not occur to you that not everyone would feel comfortable admitting that man had molested them, or worse?

There are probably more victims out there than we know about, who may prefer to forget it ever happened and not drag up the past if they have spent a lifetime trying to bury it, so why should they feel obliged to come forward just to titilate the likes of you?

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andyjb10 says...
4:17pm Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.
Another highly ill thought out comment by Woodley

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pete woodley says...
4:25pm Fri 11 Jan 13

TD61 wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.
Does it not occur to you that not everyone would feel comfortable admitting that man had molested them, or worse?

There are probably more victims out there than we know about, who may prefer to forget it ever happened and not drag up the past if they have spent a lifetime trying to bury it, so why should they feel obliged to come forward just to titilate the likes of you?
Did i say victims,NO.You are obviously a trouble maker who cannot read comments correctly.I have a suspicion the subject "worries"you ?.

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stalisman says...
4:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

No one has picked up upon a vital point .... why are those arrested so old?

Are the old ones dispensable?

How on earth can legitimate investigations come up with such a skewed result?

The timeline did not get changed because of saville but perhaps there is a considerable amount of manipulation going on behind the scenes?

The report today has no credit in furthering the exposure of those under 60 say ... and for why? because of the political fall out and the inbred antisocial culture so fostered by 'me me me' politicians.

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pete woodley says...
5:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

stalisman wrote:
No one has picked up upon a vital point .... why are those arrested so old?

Are the old ones dispensable?

How on earth can legitimate investigations come up with such a skewed result?

The timeline did not get changed because of saville but perhaps there is a considerable amount of manipulation going on behind the scenes?

The report today has no credit in furthering the exposure of those under 60 say ... and for why? because of the political fall out and the inbred antisocial culture so fostered by 'me me me' politicians.
Theres a lot in what you say,but so many on here,just make comments for the fun of it,to stir trouble.some because of secrets they might hold ?.

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Dr Strangelove says...
5:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?

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justsayithowitis says...
5:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you
It's clear he did it, what is not needed is people claiming they, or someone they know, or who an ex colleague once knew etc, harping on about how obvious it was at the time.

You know no more than me or the next person.

You are basing your judgement on what you read in the Daily Mail.
I obviously know more than you because I know I don't read the daily mail. What is not needed on here is you telling people what they are or are not allowed to post

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justsayithowitis says...
6:00pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dr Strangelove wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
You need to pass the facts on that you claim onto the police about who knew what. May be the editor could help yewtree with your email so that your knowledge of who knows what can help them, I mean you wouldn't want to hinder an investigation would you.
No I wouldn't but I don't have any facts. As I said I have heard it from several people who were not abused. If the police wish to talk to me about people who were not abused I am happy to do this. Now get a life

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Dr Strangelove says...
6:05pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
You need to pass the facts on that you claim onto the police about who knew what. May be the editor could help yewtree with your email so that your knowledge of who knows what can help them, I mean you wouldn't want to hinder an investigation would you.
No I wouldn't but I don't have any facts. As I said I have heard it from several people who were not abused. If the police wish to talk to me about people who were not abused I am happy to do this. Now get a life
Oh so it's hear say why bother with posting it then as it could be fiction.

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MrPitiful says...
6:07pm Fri 11 Jan 13

I think it is rather sad that healthy debate too often turns into playground-like squabbling on this website - especially when the subject of the articles are sensitive and those who are doing the squabbling should really know better.

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alasdair1967 says...
6:11pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
He was an old guy who was dressed like John Bull very patriotic always at the England internationals be it rugby or football waving the flag

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alasdair1967 says...
6:15pm Fri 11 Jan 13

A lot of people my age found it difficult to accept the accusations when they first came out people of my age remember him as the dream maker making people's dreams become reality with the jim will fix it show ,now it's apparent to one and all not only did he make people's dreams come true he has made lifelong nightmares for others ,the country's worst serial abuser should be stripped of all awards granted to him starting with his knighthood

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pete woodley says...
6:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Ken Bailey was for many years on the bournemouth regatta committee,he is now deceased.A lot of nasty allegations have been made against him, one in court.He was cleared in court and NOTHING has been proved against him.Whereas Lord Montagu was found guilty of many offences,yet still led a prominent life,and nothing is said.

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pete woodley says...
6:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
From who Columbo?
I never said i was a detective. I have heard from many people who were teenagers at the time who used to go to the clubs in Bournemouth where Savile was a DJ. It was said that you should keep away from him. I don't know anyone who was abused by him but many kids knew not to get near him
And out of all these people that you have heard it from, not one of them did anything about it at the time? Do me a favour, you are just jumping on the bandwagon with the whole 'my friends uncle's second wife's pet dog' knew someone lark.

If you know something of importance than tell the police, don't spill garbage on here
As I have said I don't know anyone who was abused by him so what are people i know supposed to say. Many people who were abused by him and reported it were punished or told not to tell lies about such a wonderful person. I am not spilling garbage and I don't have to put up with abuse from an ignorant person like you
It's clear he did it, what is not needed is people claiming they, or someone they know, or who an ex colleague once knew etc, harping on about how obvious it was at the time.

You know no more than me or the next person.

You are basing your judgement on what you read in the Daily Mail.
I obviously know more than you because I know I don't read the daily mail. What is not needed on here is you telling people what they are or are not allowed to post
He is always doing it,especially at me just a silly boy, take no notice.

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justsayithowitis says...
6:49pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dr Strangelove wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
I have heard that it was well known in Bournemouth in the 70"s that he abused boys and girls.
You need to pass the facts on that you claim onto the police about who knew what. May be the editor could help yewtree with your email so that your knowledge of who knows what can help them, I mean you wouldn't want to hinder an investigation would you.
No I wouldn't but I don't have any facts. As I said I have heard it from several people who were not abused. If the police wish to talk to me about people who were not abused I am happy to do this. Now get a life
Oh so it's hear say why bother with posting it then as it could be fiction.
I can post what I want. At least I had something to say not like you who picks on one person who says the same thing as many others. You are the one who has nothing to say so stop saying nothing

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Lord Spring says...
6:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
You must be a newcomer

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jill M says...
7:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Lord Spring wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
You must be a newcomer
Ken Bailey covered up the infamous Erica Roe when she streaked at Twickenham many years ago, with his Union Jack flag. He also turned up quite regularly at Bournemouths night clubs in the sixties, which always seemed a bit of a strange thing for a man of his age to do. Nothing was ever proved against him, but as everyone knows, mud sticks.

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elite50 says...
9:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

alasdair1967 wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
He was an old guy who was dressed like John Bull very patriotic always at the England internationals be it rugby or football waving the flag
He was a local who was always around young people, sports days etc.
He even wore a monocle.
Very odd but harmless.

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TD61 says...
10:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
TD61 wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.
Does it not occur to you that not everyone would feel comfortable admitting that man had molested them, or worse?

There are probably more victims out there than we know about, who may prefer to forget it ever happened and not drag up the past if they have spent a lifetime trying to bury it, so why should they feel obliged to come forward just to titilate the likes of you?
Did i say victims,NO.You are obviously a trouble maker who cannot read comments correctly.I have a suspicion the subject "worries"you ?.
Indeed it does - abuse of any kind is unacceptable - but just because my opinion differs to yours, does that make me a trouble maker? I don't see how?

Your comments regarding locals knowing more than they let on appear to have no foundation beyond your own opinions, or maybe *you* know more than you are letting on?

Either way, I do not propose to turn this into an on-line squabble with you, so have a nice life .....

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Tassie says...
10:26pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Just a load of old rubbish!! Funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork now when he can't defend himself or answer to these "allegations", & I use the term loosely. If he really is guilty, then why did no1 come forward & make a big issue of it when he was alive???? I know, lets all jump on the bandwagon & see if we can get some money from it!!!!! Total load of s**t as far as I'm concerned & most people I know say the same!! Let the man rest in peace for gods sake!!

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ctrewyou says...
6:36am Sat 12 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
Ken Bailey was for many years on the bournemouth regatta committee,he is now deceased.A lot of nasty allegations have been made against him, one in court.He was cleared in court and NOTHING has been proved against him.Whereas Lord Montagu was found guilty of many offences,yet still led a prominent life,and nothing is said.
Nothing has actually been proven against Saville either. It is impossible to PROVE child sex abuse, it is always a child's word against that of an adult, and the child is usually picked and groomed because they are vulnerable so less likely to be believed even if they do say anything. I dont know anything about Bailey, but he was a similar kind of eccentric person with a very high profile, who did a lot of charity work and also had a lot of access to children through the 70's and 80's. I remember him coming to my school on a number of occasions. If he were a sex offender, anybody who came forward would not be believed, and he would be defended now by a lot of people, because he was a 'bloody good bloke', just like Saville was when these allegations were first made against him.

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ctrewyou says...
6:39am Sat 12 Jan 13

elite50 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
He was an old guy who was dressed like John Bull very patriotic always at the England internationals be it rugby or football waving the flag
He was a local who was always around young people, sports days etc.
He even wore a monocle.
Very odd but harmless.
You are absolutely sure of that, of course? You shadowed him 24 / 7 every time he was visiting a school? Eccentric chap, did a lot of charity work, high public profile, oh and a lot of access to children, which was just a coincidence.

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ctrewyou says...
6:46am Sat 12 Jan 13

Tassie wrote:
Just a load of old rubbish!! Funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork now when he can't defend himself or answer to these "allegations", & I use the term loosely. If he really is guilty, then why did no1 come forward & make a big issue of it when he was alive???? I know, lets all jump on the bandwagon & see if we can get some money from it!!!!! Total load of s**t as far as I'm concerned & most people I know say the same!! Let the man rest in peace for gods sake!!
You clearly have no idea what it is like to be harmed or abused as a child. So a 10 year old who was sexually abused by Saville in the 70's and who told her parents and was not believed then is now somehow 'jumping on a bandwagon' by telling the story now? Actualy, many children did come forward at the time, but were not believed. They told their parents, teachers, the police, but nobody believed them, because Saville was a 'bloody good bloke who did a lot of charity work'. Also, if you have been sexually abused by an adult, it is probably the only time you feel really safe that the perpetrator will not come and get you again, when they are actually dead. You are right of course, child sex abuse and rape is not a 'big issue' and is a load of sh#t.

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elite50 says...
12:48pm Sat 12 Jan 13

ctrewyou wrote:
elite50 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
He was an old guy who was dressed like John Bull very patriotic always at the England internationals be it rugby or football waving the flag
He was a local who was always around young people, sports days etc.
He even wore a monocle.
Very odd but harmless.
You are absolutely sure of that, of course? You shadowed him 24 / 7 every time he was visiting a school? Eccentric chap, did a lot of charity work, high public profile, oh and a lot of access to children, which was just a coincidence.
If you were ugly (not just on the inside), had a cleft palate, could not communicate with young ladies because of your deformaties but needed recognition and loved kids what would you do?
This bloke overcame his problems by acting like the (patriotic) village idiot.
Had he been another Jimmy Saville there would have been talk amongst the kids.
There was not.
Kids were attracted to him, they were NOT afraid.
He hurt no-one.

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ctrewyou says...
1:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

elite50 wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
elite50 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Dr Strangelove wrote:
Who's this Ken Bailey guy? Any one know?
He was an old guy who was dressed like John Bull very patriotic always at the England internationals be it rugby or football waving the flag
He was a local who was always around young people, sports days etc.
He even wore a monocle.
Very odd but harmless.
You are absolutely sure of that, of course? You shadowed him 24 / 7 every time he was visiting a school? Eccentric chap, did a lot of charity work, high public profile, oh and a lot of access to children, which was just a coincidence.
If you were ugly (not just on the inside), had a cleft palate, could not communicate with young ladies because of your deformaties but needed recognition and loved kids what would you do?
This bloke overcame his problems by acting like the (patriotic) village idiot.
Had he been another Jimmy Saville there would have been talk amongst the kids.
There was not.
Kids were attracted to him, they were NOT afraid.
He hurt no-one.
But there was a lot of talk among the kids, a quick internet search will bring up a lot of 'gossip', unproven and unprovable, of course. Oh, and the court case, which was obviously a stitch-up, as nothing was proven so he was clearly innocent. I remember him coming into our changing rooms after a sports day, just to say godbye to us. Nothing wierd about a man in his 70's popping in to see a bunch of naked 13 year olds, of course. No crime committed, nothing to prove, everyone was happy to see 'our Ken' and it was very funny at the time, but not really normal behaviour either, in light of recent events. Of course, no 'ugly' person with speech problems ever abused anyone, quite right. I'm not saying he did, but it is really worrying when people come out and say a person 'definitely' didn't do anything. The only way you could possibly know that, for sure, would be if you were with him 24/7 throughout the 70's and 80's. He could talk, so why do you say he couldn't 'communicate with young ladies'? He had no problem talking to us boys at school, I recall. You say that he was ugly, had a cleft palate, and deformed, and yet 'kids were atracted to him'. You dont find that a very strange comment? There is not just the slightest possibility that it was him who was attracted to children, and manipulated the situation?

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pete woodley says...
1:31pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Years ago i had reservations about a certain individual who ran talent contests for youngsters in a local hotel.I reported this to the police,but my message was "lost"over 3 months later the police phoned me apoligised and asked me to say more,i did,the man went to court and was sent down,one of the conditions set down for him was that he had nothing to do with children,so what did he do on his release,start selling kids clothes on the market.I firmly believe that the public are unaware most of the time what goes on.

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Telscombe Cliffy says...
2:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I worked at the same place as Ken Bailey and often had tea breaks with him. He seemed ok to me, never inappropriate. I think he was lonely , perhaps because of his medical condition and to compensate went out of his way to surround himself with young people and get involved in charity work and England cheerleading etc. Having said that there were always rumours about him that may have been unfounded and just circulated by malicious people who could not cope with his strange appearance and over friendly eccentric manner.(An indirect form of bullying really)

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pete woodley says...
2:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13

ctrewyou,you said the court case was a setup,it was a case of a young lad lieing,after trying to rob Ken,in fact,Ken was with me and my late partner and our son,on regatta business,at the time of the alleged incident,and the police were aware of this as were many others especially regatta committee.

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pete woodley says...
2:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

ctrewyou,you said the court case was a setup,it was a case of a young lad lieing,after trying to rob Ken,in fact,Ken was with me and my late partner and our son,on regatta business,at the time of the alleged incident,and the police were aware of this as were many others especially regatta committee.He was NOT ugly and deformed.

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ctrewyou says...
3:27pm Sat 12 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
ctrewyou,you said the court case was a setup,it was a case of a young lad lieing,after trying to rob Ken,in fact,Ken was with me and my late partner and our son,on regatta business,at the time of the alleged incident,and the police were aware of this as were many others especially regatta committee.He was NOT ugly and deformed.
elite50 said he was ugly and deformed, not me. He was on the regatta committee, so must have been OK then.He just went out of his way to get close to children, who were attracted to him. I'm just suggesting people reflect on these kinds of comments in light of what people said about Saville, who was also a good bloke, did a lot of charity work, who children were attracted to, who there were rumours about but nothing could be proven, so he was definitely innocent...

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pete woodley says...
4:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13

At no time have i said Ken was innocent or guilty,and i have strong reservations regarding two of the people he associated with,one was a titled man,another was involved in politics,i was concerned re an involvement with a local youth organisation,i was informed by the police at the time that they were also concerned but like TD61 has said victims were reluctant to give evidence,so the matter was left in abeyance.My own observations on Ken however were that a lot was gossip,but again no proof either way.

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Azphreal says...
4:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I agree with wanting to know why the police are arresting peole who had sex with someone 'of age' such as Davidson! The problem with all this is how long ago the offences took place,if these people were such predators then they would have kept abusing people up to the present date. I wonder how a case can be proved if it was commited 30 or 40 years ago as there is no physical evidence'

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Seabeam says...
12:52pm Sun 13 Jan 13

This was a cover up.
The police, media, establishment acted together to hide the abuse. Perhaps Saville knew a few uncomfortable facts about some high up establishment types and threatened to spill the beans if prosecuted.
Victims reported the abuse and no investigation was persued?
Who would he have named if still alive?
Also, all his victims will never be uncovered as he abused terminally ill children who will never have a voice.
This man was a demon!

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Seabeam says...
1:04pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I did know Ken Baily from age of 10. Seemed dodgy back then with his famous saying, 'come back to my flat for booze and fags'.
He cruised around on the bus when the kids where on their way back from school.
He seemed dodgy but nobody said he perved them.

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pete woodley says...
2:54pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Seabeam wrote:
This was a cover up.
The police, media, establishment acted together to hide the abuse. Perhaps Saville knew a few uncomfortable facts about some high up establishment types and threatened to spill the beans if prosecuted.
Victims reported the abuse and no investigation was persued?
Who would he have named if still alive?
Also, all his victims will never be uncovered as he abused terminally ill children who will never have a voice.
This man was a demon!
The press have reported today that Savile had connections with many senior police officers.Say no more.

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guisselle says...
5:30pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Well its a fact of life that there are
predators about and always will be,
its up to parents to keep vigilant and
teach their children to keep safe.

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guisselle says...
5:32pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Well its a fact of life that there are
predators about and always will be,
its up to parents to keep vigilant and
teach their children to keep safe.

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pete woodley says...
6:35pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Trouble is it could, and i think it does now, put kids off speaking to adults,and vice versa.

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pete woodley says...
6:37pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Trouble is it could, and i think it does now, put kids off speaking to adults,and vice versa.

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stevobath says...
10:16am Tue 15 Jan 13

pete woodley wrote:
TD61.You have just proved the point of why he got away with it.
Ever been abused Pete? Probably not, hence your total lack of understanding as to why victims keep quiet.Shame & guilt being just 2 reasons.Not wanting to upset parents is another.I could add a few more reasons.


As for Ken Bailey....He invited my friend & I back to his flat as young teens with the promise of tickets for the 'Maison Royale'....Oh.Wasnt Mr Savile involved in ownership of 'The Outlook' etc???? Ken Bailey...One of his 'Hang Outs' happened to be clubs Savile was involved with....Many times a stray hand would 'brush' against your bottom until you got to an age where you felt confident enough to tell Mr ***** that he should keep his hands to himself as he could well end up with said hands 'broken'...Just cause someones on a commitee means absolutely nothing.Making excuses for people etc is one of the problems.Im sure Ken & Jimmy were great mates?

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pete woodley says...
12:09pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Steve when i patrolled the pleasure gardens,i had kids coming up to me saying that two men had invited them back to their flat,the two men were a TV personality,and a senior council official,i reported this on the spot by my radio,and asked for the police to be informed,i was told this would be done,as you can guess nothing was done.I have NOT been sticking up for Ken,but at no time did i ever have any proof.In fact i have reported several individuals and several of them were convicted and sent down,including a father who interfered with his daughter .I am not allowed to give names here.Through doing security work

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pete woodley says...
4:34pm Tue 15 Jan 13

I will now finish what i started to say.Through doing security work and having shops,i have come across many oddballs and perverts,Some flashing in the gardens,some on Meyrick Park,including one well known,many hanging around playgrounds.Some in shops trying to buy kids sweets,one in my own shop,asking lads to come around and see his "model railway"he was soon sorted.In another shop i had,after i closed the owner,who lived behind and had a door into shop,unknown to me used to invite kids in,until it was reported by a neighbour to the police.it was going on then and most likely still going on.The pier theater and amusement arcades were the regular meeting place for "rent" boys,as was the "Lodge" not 40 miles away.I will finish now in case i am boring you.

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guisselle says...
3:09am Wed 16 Jan 13

Years ago a toy shop owner in Ashley
Rd Parkstone murdered a child aged
about 8. The girl was a neighbour's
daughter and it was such a shock.

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sofa_king_right says...
7:04pm Wed 16 Jan 13

Dirty old Jimmy and his busy hands.
I wonder who the next celebrity paedo will be?

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