Christchurch Hospital plans rejected

Bournemouth Echo: REFUSED: Objectors to plans to demolish part of Christchurch Hospital REFUSED: Objectors to plans to demolish part of Christchurch Hospital

MULTI-million pound plans intended to secure the future of Christchurch Hospital have been thrown into doubt after planners rejected the scheme.

A planning meeting at Christchurch Borough Council saw the Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospital Trust’s major development scheme for the Fairmile site refused by committee members, who overturned their officers’ recommendation for approval.

Hospital bosses say they are ‘deeply disappointed’ and will have to review what services can be provided at Christchurch and what will have to move to Bournemouth.

The proposal included an extension of the hospital buildings to include the relocated Grove Surgery, a retail pharmacy, the construction of an 80-bed care home and 36 senior living apartments as well as 81 key worker houses and flats.

The plans, which would have created a ‘healthcare campus’, would have retained the Macmillan Unit, bloods unit, X-ray and imaging department as well as outpatients.

But the proposal also included the demolition of the historic H Block, a former workhouse infirmary, which had caused concern among local residents.

Local historian Sue Newman, who wrote the Christchurch and Bournemouth Union Workhouse, told members: “These buildings are steeped in historic significance; it is effectively a death warrant.

“The council commissioned a report into the buildings, and it described H Block of very high significance and said all remaining workhouse buildings on site should be protected against demolition.”

There were also objections from Christchurch Antiquarians, Christchurch History Society and Christchurch Conservation Trust plus letters from the public.

But Richard Renaut, director of service development at the Trust said the £10million investment in the hospital showed they were ‘here for the long-term’ and this was a plan that meant they would stay local to Christchurch.

“Over half the buildings and site are completely empty but we can’t bring them up to standard. This is a development which is sensitive to the area,” he said.

But councillors felt the loss of heritage – despite H Block not being a listed building – and the size of the care home, assisted living accommodation and key worker housing were too imposing on the surrounding area.

Cllr Peter Hall said: “I think it is very important to save our heritage and I think H Block and G Block are worth saving.”

NHS Trust ‘deeply disappointed’ at meeting’s outcome

THE Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust said in a statement it was ‘deeply disappointed’ and that the plans ‘would have secured local services’.

It said the NHS faced ‘the stark choice we have of either keeping empty buildings that are no longer fit for providing modern day care, or continuing to provide health services,’ adding, ‘we simply cannot afford to do both’.

It added: “More than 600 people took the time to show support for this scheme, whose opinions appear to have been overlooked.

“H block is a non-listed building in a degraded conservation, which has been empty for three years. We cannot justify investing significant public money in a building that is unfit for delivering any kind of modern health care. The viability of the scheme presented to the committee relied entirely on the demolition of H block.

“The foundation trust, Quantum and the GP practice will jointly review what options we now have. We know that we may lose the funding for the GP practice. We will have to review what health services we can continue to deliver from Christchurch and what can be delivered from the Royal Bournemouth.

“The simple reality is that the £10m+ investment in health care accommodation at Christchurch relied on the funds generated from the nursing home and the key worker and senior living accommodation to make these affordable. Without the scheme as it stands we are no longer in a position to make that investment.”

The trust said it would consider lodging an appeal.

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11:18am Sat 5 Jan 13

ajj-dorset says...

This was little more than an exercise in property development by Quantum and the Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust. Well done to the council for rejecting the scheme and standing up to the bully boy tactics employed.
This was little more than an exercise in property development by Quantum and the Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust. Well done to the council for rejecting the scheme and standing up to the bully boy tactics employed. ajj-dorset

12:33pm Sat 5 Jan 13

point--of--view says...

Well done Sue Newman indeed and thank you for your work in preserving Christchurch and just to mention an excellent speech at the meeting.


At the meeting last week on a cold winters evening I counted over 50 objectors that came out to support Christchurch. I say well done to all of them for showing concern and turning up. Other than people to do with the application no one was pressent in support!

The applause when Sue Newman, the residents speaker and Cllr Phipps made speaches was all to clear. These speaches represented local people and opions and all made an excellent case and spoke with passion. Incidently, the standard of the supporters speaches for the development was surprisingly rather poor!

The 575 template / round robyn letters used as a means of claiming local support from the GP surgery gave nothing opther than a petition that people signed supporting better health services. This was done at the GP surgery that was involved in selling up and moving to the new site so no incentive on that front! Note people attending a medical appointment being asked to support an illedged better medical service was perphaps not appropriate! This was made clear at the meeting and given the rejection this marketing exercise clearly did not work for Quantum!

Regarding medical services in Christchurch hospital they have slowly been reduced over the last five years. This is widley reported and documented. From the plans submitted this new scheme would further reduce the services to blood taking / testing, X-Ray and consultancy rooms with a new GP surgery. I see no wards, no operations or in-patients in the proposed scheme. All this exists or is possible in the current historic buildings that would have been demolished if this had been approved, these services or potential would have been lost forever.

As for the financial constraints I refuse to believe the money the NHS trust has spent on this application that they could not have gone a long way towards refurbishing the existing buildings.

Local NHS staff do not understand the trusts fixation with demolition of the existing buildings. Most of the hard warking staff, actually believe the existing buildings just need refurbishment and could be far better utillised and take pressure away from Bournemouth hospital.It seems only the Trust directors believe the need to demolish.

As for compromise Sue Newman and the local people have held a long standing campigne to protect the site and others to protect the NHS services provided. Local council policy has been to conserve the area and past applications to alter or build in the conservation zone have been rejected. Why during this process has the planning department and Bournemouth and Christchurch NHS trust not listened and worked with the the History and conservation society and local residents rather than using bully boy arguments and tactics?

I personally in November attened a meeting with local objectors and the the NHS Trust to try to compromise. I along with the 50 other households was told no changes would or could be made to the planning application and that it would be built regardless of our concerns and objects. Compromise was attempted.

This application has now raised locally awarness of the work house history and the conservation order on the site. It has also raised great intrest in our health care provision and galvanised local residents to voice an opion. This has been well voiced to our local councillers who have listened and rejected this scheme. Along with Druitt Hall a great day for local democracy.

This scheme was the NHS trust board playing property developer. Why did they waste my tax's putting in such a high risk application to build 120 OAP appartments on a coservation zone? This is an incompetance to far!

The scheme would have resulted in 120 OAP appartments and 81 small rented house and yet more small flats. The bulk, density and height of the scheme was just totally over the top with no parking and open space. In the middle would have been the above mentioned medical facilities so not much of a "health care campus". This was a land sell off and nothing to do with "retaining health services".

This current schene if it had been approved would have been the death of any real hospital services in Christchurch, the loss of a conservation zone and the destruction of a historic buildings that form an important part of our local history and herritage.

To sum up the Mayor Cllr Peter Hall voiced strong support for the objectors and I believe his clossing comment was to suggest the plan go back to the drawing board. Wise words indeed!
Well done Sue Newman indeed and thank you for your work in preserving Christchurch and just to mention an excellent speech at the meeting. At the meeting last week on a cold winters evening I counted over 50 objectors that came out to support Christchurch. I say well done to all of them for showing concern and turning up. Other than people to do with the application no one was pressent in support! The applause when Sue Newman, the residents speaker and Cllr Phipps made speaches was all to clear. These speaches represented local people and opions and all made an excellent case and spoke with passion. Incidently, the standard of the supporters speaches for the development was surprisingly rather poor! The 575 template / round robyn letters used as a means of claiming local support from the GP surgery gave nothing opther than a petition that people signed supporting better health services. This was done at the GP surgery that was involved in selling up and moving to the new site so no incentive on that front! Note people attending a medical appointment being asked to support an illedged better medical service was perphaps not appropriate! This was made clear at the meeting and given the rejection this marketing exercise clearly did not work for Quantum! Regarding medical services in Christchurch hospital they have slowly been reduced over the last five years. This is widley reported and documented. From the plans submitted this new scheme would further reduce the services to blood taking / testing, X-Ray and consultancy rooms with a new GP surgery. I see no wards, no operations or in-patients in the proposed scheme. All this exists or is possible in the current historic buildings that would have been demolished if this had been approved, these services or potential would have been lost forever. As for the financial constraints I refuse to believe the money the NHS trust has spent on this application that they could not have gone a long way towards refurbishing the existing buildings. Local NHS staff do not understand the trusts fixation with demolition of the existing buildings. Most of the hard warking staff, actually believe the existing buildings just need refurbishment and could be far better utillised and take pressure away from Bournemouth hospital.It seems only the Trust directors believe the need to demolish. As for compromise Sue Newman and the local people have held a long standing campigne to protect the site and others to protect the NHS services provided. Local council policy has been to conserve the area and past applications to alter or build in the conservation zone have been rejected. Why during this process has the planning department and Bournemouth and Christchurch NHS trust not listened and worked with the the History and conservation society and local residents rather than using bully boy arguments and tactics? I personally in November attened a meeting with local objectors and the the NHS Trust to try to compromise. I along with the 50 other households was told no changes would or could be made to the planning application and that it would be built regardless of our concerns and objects. Compromise was attempted. This application has now raised locally awarness of the work house history and the conservation order on the site. It has also raised great intrest in our health care provision and galvanised local residents to voice an opion. This has been well voiced to our local councillers who have listened and rejected this scheme. Along with Druitt Hall a great day for local democracy. This scheme was the NHS trust board playing property developer. Why did they waste my tax's putting in such a high risk application to build 120 OAP appartments on a coservation zone? This is an incompetance to far! The scheme would have resulted in 120 OAP appartments and 81 small rented house and yet more small flats. The bulk, density and height of the scheme was just totally over the top with no parking and open space. In the middle would have been the above mentioned medical facilities so not much of a "health care campus". This was a land sell off and nothing to do with "retaining health services". This current schene if it had been approved would have been the death of any real hospital services in Christchurch, the loss of a conservation zone and the destruction of a historic buildings that form an important part of our local history and herritage. To sum up the Mayor Cllr Peter Hall voiced strong support for the objectors and I believe his clossing comment was to suggest the plan go back to the drawing board. Wise words indeed! point--of--view

12:44pm Sat 5 Jan 13

coster says...

Congratulations to those who opposed this scheme.
Those of us who must use the RBH facility are aware of its shortcomings, the administrators of which would do well to clean up that area before attempting to destroy the Christchurch limited - but very welcome - operation.
Congratulations to those who opposed this scheme. Those of us who must use the RBH facility are aware of its shortcomings, the administrators of which would do well to clean up that area before attempting to destroy the Christchurch limited - but very welcome - operation. coster

1:13pm Sat 5 Jan 13

skydriver says...

Peter Hall has far to much to say about the local area he may be the mayor but that is all. If its good for the town then lets go ahead
Peter Hall has far to much to say about the local area he may be the mayor but that is all. If its good for the town then lets go ahead skydriver

1:15pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

Common sense prevails, glad we are not going to have a repetition of the blatant destruction seen 15 years ago when A,B,and C block were torn down along with the path labs and day hospital, these were all historic building which had many years of life left in them.
H block will still be standing when the Royal Bournemouth Hospital disappears into the ground so it's worth saving.
Keep up the good work against the bully boys , you have my full support.
Common sense prevails, glad we are not going to have a repetition of the blatant destruction seen 15 years ago when A,B,and C block were torn down along with the path labs and day hospital, these were all historic building which had many years of life left in them. H block will still be standing when the Royal Bournemouth Hospital disappears into the ground so it's worth saving. Keep up the good work against the bully boys , you have my full support. Hessenford

3:54pm Sat 5 Jan 13

bibocherry says...

At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit.
At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit. bibocherry

5:21pm Sat 5 Jan 13

point--of--view says...

bibocherry wrote:
At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit.
Bibocherry,
You clearly know about the clinical services and needs and make comments the objectors keep hearing from staff at both Bournemouth and Christchurch hospitals. The argument from the Trust is that it is more expensive to refurbish what exists and the buildings are not fit for purpose. Never any costs or figures just a statement.
It is a shame the board and management just want to play property developers rather than provide quality medical care. The money spent on this application and scheme so far I suspect could have paid for a refurbishment. Better still remove the property developers from the trust board and employ some more nurses!

It’s just all about selling up to make money for the trust.
[quote][p][bold]bibocherry[/bold] wrote: At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit.[/p][/quote]Bibocherry, You clearly know about the clinical services and needs and make comments the objectors keep hearing from staff at both Bournemouth and Christchurch hospitals. The argument from the Trust is that it is more expensive to refurbish what exists and the buildings are not fit for purpose. Never any costs or figures just a statement. It is a shame the board and management just want to play property developers rather than provide quality medical care. The money spent on this application and scheme so far I suspect could have paid for a refurbishment. Better still remove the property developers from the trust board and employ some more nurses! It’s just all about selling up to make money for the trust. point--of--view

7:27pm Sat 5 Jan 13

snowy123 says...

In the week before Christmas when patient numbers usually drop RBH was absolutely full to the rafters. With very little more room for expansion on the Bournemouth site it was very short sighted to practically close Christchurch. It would be even more idiotic to use that site for housing. The population is growing not shrinking so surely more and more beds will be required. Unless of course Bournemouth use more corridor's as wards as they did a couple of weeks ago !
In the week before Christmas when patient numbers usually drop RBH was absolutely full to the rafters. With very little more room for expansion on the Bournemouth site it was very short sighted to practically close Christchurch. It would be even more idiotic to use that site for housing. The population is growing not shrinking so surely more and more beds will be required. Unless of course Bournemouth use more corridor's as wards as they did a couple of weeks ago ! snowy123

8:22pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Mudefordresident says...

Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town.
Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town. Mudefordresident

8:53pm Sat 5 Jan 13

twynham says...

Oh dear!
.
And here was me thinking the NHS was safe in the hands of the coalition!
Oh dear! . And here was me thinking the NHS was safe in the hands of the coalition! twynham

9:32pm Sat 5 Jan 13

point--of--view says...

Mudefordresident wrote:
Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town.
Mudefordresident
You are totally right about the hospital services and the lack of interest from our local NHS Trust in Christchurch. That is why they want to sell this land off to build OAP flats and rentable houses and flats.
The downgrading of medical services started over five years ago and slowly has been reduced in Christchurch. The buildings though still have wards, theatres and all the facilities I suspect you want to keep in our town. What exists now can be converted, blocks H and G are in good condition and the square footage is far larger than the new plans. As above posts mention it is just not true that the existing buildings can’t be used. The only people saying this are the NHS trust board.
If you have not take a look on dorsetforyou.com and search on the planning portal on application reference 8/12/0416. Look at the ground plan showing the new scheme.
All this scheme would have secured are consultancy rooms, x-ray and blood (blood services are offered in pharmacies in many areas in the UK, if you need an x-ray generally it is perhaps best you are in a hospital some uses for ongoing monitoring).
This scheme offers no guarantee of any medical services remaining in Christchurch, none what so ever! Of the 10 million pounds that keep being mentioned the vast majority is being spent on the 81 small flats and houses.
If you want to support Christchurch and our hospital services object to this scheme and any appeal made or we will have nothing left.
The council made the right decision on this matter for many reasons. Not least that we still have a chance to preserve some form of hospital.
[quote][p][bold]Mudefordresident[/bold] wrote: Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town.[/p][/quote]Mudefordresident You are totally right about the hospital services and the lack of interest from our local NHS Trust in Christchurch. That is why they want to sell this land off to build OAP flats and rentable houses and flats. The downgrading of medical services started over five years ago and slowly has been reduced in Christchurch. The buildings though still have wards, theatres and all the facilities I suspect you want to keep in our town. What exists now can be converted, blocks H and G are in good condition and the square footage is far larger than the new plans. As above posts mention it is just not true that the existing buildings can’t be used. The only people saying this are the NHS trust board. If you have not take a look on dorsetforyou.com and search on the planning portal on application reference 8/12/0416. Look at the ground plan showing the new scheme. All this scheme would have secured are consultancy rooms, x-ray and blood (blood services are offered in pharmacies in many areas in the UK, if you need an x-ray generally it is perhaps best you are in a hospital some uses for ongoing monitoring). This scheme offers no guarantee of any medical services remaining in Christchurch, none what so ever! Of the 10 million pounds that keep being mentioned the vast majority is being spent on the 81 small flats and houses. If you want to support Christchurch and our hospital services object to this scheme and any appeal made or we will have nothing left. The council made the right decision on this matter for many reasons. Not least that we still have a chance to preserve some form of hospital. point--of--view

10:17pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

Mudefordresident wrote:
Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town.
The path lab and xray departments at Royal Bournemouth are already bunged up with the patients they are servicing now, there is no room left to send these departments from Christchurch.
A couple of years ago Tony Spotswood publicly denied that there were any plans to close Christchurch Hospital, within a few months successive wards were moved to Bournemouth.
What we have now is a major hospital with not enough beds while Christchurch with available space for over 200 beds lies idle.
Quite a lot of money was spent on Christchurch hospital over the last 15 years, a new chapel, M ward was upgraded at vast expense, all of which is about to be bulldozed.
The beds space available would take the pressure off Bournemouth, especially at this time of year with winter pressures upon us.
The NHS is unsafe in the hands of people like Tony Spotswood and even more unsafe in the hands of the present coalition government.
[quote][p][bold]Mudefordresident[/bold] wrote: Christchurch Council have probably signed the death warrant for hospital services in Christchurch with this decision. There is proposal to combine or merge Poole and Bournemouth Hospitals, so will an out of date outpost at Christchurch be likely to feature in their plans. Probably not. The hospital trust can easily transfer services such as blood tests,x-rays, etc from Christchurch to Bournemouth without the need to gain permission from any Council. These plans, if passed, would have secured services in Christchurch. Now there is every danger they will be lost for good, for the sake of a couple of buildings which are not even listed. Had they been, then the plans and proposals could have taken such a status into account. Christchurch Council you have made the wrong decision and have probably started the ball rolling for the ultimate end of hospital services in our town.[/p][/quote]The path lab and xray departments at Royal Bournemouth are already bunged up with the patients they are servicing now, there is no room left to send these departments from Christchurch. A couple of years ago Tony Spotswood publicly denied that there were any plans to close Christchurch Hospital, within a few months successive wards were moved to Bournemouth. What we have now is a major hospital with not enough beds while Christchurch with available space for over 200 beds lies idle. Quite a lot of money was spent on Christchurch hospital over the last 15 years, a new chapel, M ward was upgraded at vast expense, all of which is about to be bulldozed. The beds space available would take the pressure off Bournemouth, especially at this time of year with winter pressures upon us. The NHS is unsafe in the hands of people like Tony Spotswood and even more unsafe in the hands of the present coalition government. Hessenford

8:08am Sun 6 Jan 13

hazelpike says...

Having worked at Boscombe, Bournemouth and Christchurch hospitals, I feel that history repeats itself. Boscombe Hospital;- demolished for money. Beds now desperately needed. I hope I am wrong but money has always been the driving force. Not patients.
Having worked at Boscombe, Bournemouth and Christchurch hospitals, I feel that history repeats itself. Boscombe Hospital;- demolished for money. Beds now desperately needed. I hope I am wrong but money has always been the driving force. Not patients. hazelpike

2:12pm Sun 6 Jan 13

bibocherry says...

Totally agree Hazel, money seems to be the driving force. Unfortuately the bulldozers are on sght for J, K and M wards. However, these wards are not beyond repair and refurbishment if a halts was put on the demolition. As said before, Tony Spotswood is the only person saying that G and H block are not workable. Now is the time Tony to swallow pride, stop making excuses and wasting any more money. Get G and H wards up and running again one way or another. Lets face it, so much money has been wasted employing people for all these plans. Time for positive action now please.
Totally agree Hazel, money seems to be the driving force. Unfortuately the bulldozers are on sght for J, K and M wards. However, these wards are not beyond repair and refurbishment if a halts was put on the demolition. As said before, Tony Spotswood is the only person saying that G and H block are not workable. Now is the time Tony to swallow pride, stop making excuses and wasting any more money. Get G and H wards up and running again one way or another. Lets face it, so much money has been wasted employing people for all these plans. Time for positive action now please. bibocherry

4:37pm Sun 6 Jan 13

mytown1 says...

A lot of the problems on planning at the moment in Christchurch seem to "stem" from the lack of understanding of what the Local Plan Planning Policy covers and how it is interpreted. Yes affordable homes and key workers accommodation are needed in the area but not at any cost. The Historical Society did a lot of work to demonstrate why these buildings should be kept, in accordance with the Local Plan. A clearer dialogue with developers/councillo
rs/and residents will save a great deal of time/energy and money if all have an equal say/value on such sensitive issues and start working together. Druitt Hall was a prime example.
A lot of the problems on planning at the moment in Christchurch seem to "stem" from the lack of understanding of what the Local Plan Planning Policy covers and how it is interpreted. Yes affordable homes and key workers accommodation are needed in the area but not at any cost. The Historical Society did a lot of work to demonstrate why these buildings should be kept, in accordance with the Local Plan. A clearer dialogue with developers/councillo rs/and residents will save a great deal of time/energy and money if all have an equal say/value on such sensitive issues and start working together. Druitt Hall was a prime example. mytown1

8:41am Mon 7 Jan 13

Samesex says...

I hope Christchurch Council are proud of themselves when because of their actions Christchurch Hospital closes. They obviously care more about old buildings than hospital services for the community they are supposed to serve.
I hope Christchurch Council are proud of themselves when because of their actions Christchurch Hospital closes. They obviously care more about old buildings than hospital services for the community they are supposed to serve. Samesex

10:08am Wed 9 Jan 13

bobsworthforever says...

bibocherry wrote:
At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit.
you cannot put a price on health and services really have you mentioned this to our Prime Minister that is just what hes up to just waiting for the right moment to privatise everthing he can lay his hands on.As for the buildings they need demolishing pronto and good use made of their replacements.No more protests meetings knock em down.
[quote][p][bold]bibocherry[/bold] wrote: At last sense has prevailed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with H and G block. These could easily be converted into GP surgeries on the ground floor and day case surgery/minor ops on the first floor. Royal Bournemouth were just looking for a cash cow by selling land as they did previously with the site. Working at Xch hosp it is so blatant that Bmth Hosp cannot cope and is out of its depth with no vacant beds. So why oh why not utilize Christchurch. Come on now, Bmth you have lost, time to get real. You know the truth is that you can not put a price on health and services are not there to make a profit.[/p][/quote]you cannot put a price on health and services really have you mentioned this to our Prime Minister that is just what hes up to just waiting for the right moment to privatise everthing he can lay his hands on.As for the buildings they need demolishing pronto and good use made of their replacements.No more protests meetings knock em down. bobsworthforever

5:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

rcsc71 says...

I find this new very dissapointing for the Christchrch local community, you have you have said no to an opportunity to have modern accessible healthcare centre.

What will happen is that old buildings will fall into disrepair as the hospital trust will be concentrating on maintaining the empty old buildings instead investing into patient care and facilities. The short sighted council will now have to search for suitable sight for new GP and other healthcare services for the community this will mean othersites will looked at which may not be as accessible or central, people should start thinking of the future needs of the population not and not be thinking of the past.

I would be interested to know how these supporters will help towards the maintenance of these empty buildings.
I find this new very dissapointing for the Christchrch local community, you have you have said no to an opportunity to have modern accessible healthcare centre. What will happen is that old buildings will fall into disrepair as the hospital trust will be concentrating on maintaining the empty old buildings instead investing into patient care and facilities. The short sighted council will now have to search for suitable sight for new GP and other healthcare services for the community this will mean othersites will looked at which may not be as accessible or central, people should start thinking of the future needs of the population not and not be thinking of the past. I would be interested to know how these supporters will help towards the maintenance of these empty buildings. rcsc71

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