Blaze at Boscombe's Cliff End hotel

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  • The Cliff End hotel, which has been causing residents concern for several years, was on fire for around two hours this morning.
  • The fire was centred around the central part of the building and 30 firefighters attended the blaze.
  • Manor Road was cordoned off and a barrier was erected to keep the public back.
  • A lightning strike is believed to be the most likely cause of the fire
  • Another fire occured at Lytchett Minster School this morning. Lightning is also believed to be the most likely cause of the blaze.

5:33pm

We think that's all the updates we're going to get for now, but we'll keep the blog open overnight just in case. Thanks for following our coverage.

5:01pm

The fire at the Cliff End was one of three blazes that occured across Dorset this morning.

We've already mentioned the blaze at Lytchett Minster School, but there was also a fire at Spire Hill Farm in North Dorset, which you can find out about here

The most likely cause of the three fires is believed to be lightning strike.

4:56pm

The latest update on the fire at the Cliff End hotel from Dorset Fire and Rescue Service:

We do not now believe that anyone was inside the property. Lightning strike has also not been ruled out for this incident but a full investigation will take place when it is safe to do so.

2:37pm

Another picture taken by Jon Beal earlier today at the derelict hotel

Bournemouth Echo:

12:11pm

Earlier we spoke to neighbour Rod Pound about the hotel, he said:

“It was an eye-sore before and it is an eye-sore now”

“No one seems to want to do anything with it.

“But the firefighters down there have done a brilliant job, they are heroes.”

11:43am

Here's that footage we mentioned earlier filmed by John Elborn, who saw the entire thing from his flat:

11:28am

Echo photographer Jon Beal took this photo of the damaged roof:

Bournemouth Echo:

11:26am

We'll have some video footage by neighbour John Elborn online for you very shortly

11:08am

Neighbour John Elborn, 67, of Manor Road, told us how he saw the lightning strike from the window of his flat.

“There was no rain, just a bit flash of lightning and then a huge burst of thunder, it was odd,” he said.

“But the fire didn’t break out straight away, I only came back to the window when my wife spotted the hotel roof was on fire and took a few pictures.

“To be honest I thought it was good news as the building is an eye-sore and a blight on the neighbourhood.”

11:05am

Fire incident manager Karen Adams has confirmed that the cause of the blaze, which has destroyed the roof in the main building of the hotel, is believed to have been a lightning strike.

She said six fire crews used five hose reel jets and an aerial platform to extinguish the fire by about 8.15am.

“There was no one in the building when we arrived and there is quite a lot of damage, and this building has been derelict for a number of years, so it is hard to say how it happened,” she said.
 

“When the main fire was put out using the platform the crews went into the building using breathing apparatus. They are dealing with the remaining hot spots.”

10:34am

A lightning stike is also believed to be the cause of the fire at Lytchett Minster School, which firefighters are still dealing with.

10:13am

Firefighters are still at the scene but the fire is now out. We'll keep you posted with more updates as we get them.

10:12am

We've just been finding out from our reporter Will Frampton what the current situation is. Will says the fire is believed to have been started by a lightning strike at around 6am this morning.

10:09am

Our traffic feed is reporting Christchurch Road has reopened but Manor Road is closed and Derby Road is still affected.

9:32am

Here's some video Corin took of the fire, which began at around 6am.

9:19am

Bournemouth Echo:

9:18am

Echo photographer Corin Messer took this picture of firefighters attending to the blaze earlier this morning

Bournemouth Echo:

9:16am

The fire was centred around the central part of the building. Manor Road has been cordoned off and a barrier has been erected to keep the public back.

9:14am

We'll have a video online for you very shortly

9:13am

Boscombe's derelict Cliff End hotel was ablaze this morning. This is the first of two fires to occur in Dorset overnight. Around 50 firefighters are currently attending a blaze at Lytchett Minster School. You can follow our live coverage here

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9:43am Thu 27 Dec 12

BournemouthMum says...

To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing. BournemouthMum
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9:49am Thu 27 Dec 12

EdBmth says...

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Please see above comments added to The Echos comments page in Sept 2011.
http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/yoursay /letterstotheeditor/ 9624383.There_s_no_w ay_to_repair_Bournem outh_s_Cliff_End_Hot el/ Please see above comments added to The Echos comments page in Sept 2011. EdBmth
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10:34am Thu 27 Dec 12

BournemouthMum says...

It was such a beautiful building with stunning Victorian architecture, it could have been made into luxury flats or something. There was obviously some structural decay though and these days, no builder/property developer can be a*sed with restoration work, they'd much rather flatten a place and build a lego type building in its place - money money money.

As a council tax payer I'd have been happy for the council to have done something with it and I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that. Such a shame.
It was such a beautiful building with stunning Victorian architecture, it could have been made into luxury flats or something. There was obviously some structural decay though and these days, no builder/property developer can be a*sed with restoration work, they'd much rather flatten a place and build a lego type building in its place - money money money. As a council tax payer I'd have been happy for the council to have done something with it and I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that. Such a shame. BournemouthMum
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10:36am Thu 27 Dec 12

andyjb10 says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing andyjb10
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11:04am Thu 27 Dec 12

BournemouthMum says...

andyjb10 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
Please read my second post - I agree with you!

Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.
[quote][p][bold]andyjb10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing[/p][/quote]Please read my second post - I agree with you! Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately. BournemouthMum
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11:17am Thu 27 Dec 12

Huey says...

GREAT NEWS
best thing that could have happened to the building.
Let's hope it is totally destroyed.
GREAT NEWS best thing that could have happened to the building. Let's hope it is totally destroyed. Huey
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11:39am Thu 27 Dec 12

John T says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
Please read my second post - I agree with you!

Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.
Blimey, BournemouthMum, are you now starting arguments between yourself?
Have you given a thought of going into Coalition with David Cameron?!
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjb10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing[/p][/quote]Please read my second post - I agree with you! Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.[/p][/quote]Blimey, BournemouthMum, are you now starting arguments between yourself? Have you given a thought of going into Coalition with David Cameron?! John T
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11:49am Thu 27 Dec 12

Gordon Cann says...

So God does exist !!. We were only discussing the debate on BBC last Night between Richard Dorkyn and the Chief Rabbi of the Jewish faith about the meaning of 'God' and lo and behold the next day the Cliff End Hotel is struck by lightening
So God does exist !!. We were only discussing the debate on BBC last Night between Richard Dorkyn and the Chief Rabbi of the Jewish faith about the meaning of 'God' and lo and behold the next day the Cliff End Hotel is struck by lightening Gordon Cann
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11:59am Thu 27 Dec 12

John T says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
So God does exist !!. We were only discussing the debate on BBC last Night between Richard Dorkyn and the Chief Rabbi of the Jewish faith about the meaning of 'God' and lo and behold the next day the Cliff End Hotel is struck by lightening
If God does exist, it is blindingly obvious that I must retract the first word of my comment above to BournemouthMum, and seek forgiveness from a Superior Being!
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: So God does exist !!. We were only discussing the debate on BBC last Night between Richard Dorkyn and the Chief Rabbi of the Jewish faith about the meaning of 'God' and lo and behold the next day the Cliff End Hotel is struck by lightening[/p][/quote]If God does exist, it is blindingly obvious that I must retract the first word of my comment above to BournemouthMum, and seek forgiveness from a Superior Being! John T
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12:02pm Thu 27 Dec 12

djkent says...

this is a lovely building that has been left to rott why can t the stupid owners sell it to someone that can do it up and turn it into homes its better than the crap builders build these days and has detail
this is a lovely building that has been left to rott why can t the stupid owners sell it to someone that can do it up and turn it into homes its better than the crap builders build these days and has detail djkent
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12:09pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Gordon Cann says...

I should not worry too múch. God might be a convenient concept for insurance companies , but hardly a superior being!
I should not worry too múch. God might be a convenient concept for insurance companies , but hardly a superior being! Gordon Cann
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12:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Lord Spring says...

York Minster and now this.
York Minster and now this. Lord Spring
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1:36pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Futurekix says...

if god exists, then why was a perfectly good school just burnt to a crisp. I woke up to the sound of a rather large thunderous bang and live probably 3/4 of a mile from the hotel. it was definitely lightening, not an act of god though, an act of science. the peak of that building was probably the highest thing under the path of the lightening strike. I guess unless someone comes forward who actually saw the lightening strike the building then we will never know. Maybe there is something more sinister going on, but god? i don't think so.
if god exists, then why was a perfectly good school just burnt to a crisp. I woke up to the sound of a rather large thunderous bang and live probably 3/4 of a mile from the hotel. it was definitely lightening, not an act of god though, an act of science. the peak of that building was probably the highest thing under the path of the lightening strike. I guess unless someone comes forward who actually saw the lightening strike the building then we will never know. Maybe there is something more sinister going on, but god? i don't think so. Futurekix
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1:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Futurekix says...

in fact i have just had a conversation with a friend who lives over the road from the hotel and he said that he jumped out of bed at about ten past six to a noise so loud he thought it was the end of the world! he said it definitely sounded like thunder. so there we have it :)
in fact i have just had a conversation with a friend who lives over the road from the hotel and he said that he jumped out of bed at about ten past six to a noise so loud he thought it was the end of the world! he said it definitely sounded like thunder. so there we have it :) Futurekix
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2:24pm Thu 27 Dec 12

BournemouthMatt says...

I don't know - from all the high-rise flats along Manor Road that could have been struck by lightning, trust Mother Nature to pick on the derelict eye-sore of the former Cliff End hotel.

Isn't it a little suspicious considering this is a prime property development location?
I don't know - from all the high-rise flats along Manor Road that could have been struck by lightning, trust Mother Nature to pick on the derelict eye-sore of the former Cliff End hotel. Isn't it a little suspicious considering this is a prime property development location? BournemouthMatt
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2:32pm Thu 27 Dec 12

mpdor says...

I do not think for one moment that a lightening bolt caused this fire, id bet everything that this is arson pure and simple, obviously i would not suggest that the current oners have committed arson, but across the country where buildings do not get the required planning consents the buildings are left to rot, so thateven local residents so angered by having a monstrosity on their doorsteps end up backing any development rather than have the ugly building on their doorstep, so now a new build will get planning consent and the whole structure will be torn down massively increasing the buildings value, the owners should be forced to pay a fine to the council for allowing this building (Built for H Samuel ) to become such a blot on the landscape, the problem is many owners will allow the buildings to decay until they get the consents THEY want they no that residents end up telling the council do something give them permission for something rather than look at this horror on our doorsteps, someone caused this fire on purpose could be anyone at all local resident etc lightening my ****
I do not think for one moment that a lightening bolt caused this fire, id bet everything that this is arson pure and simple, obviously i would not suggest that the current oners have committed arson, but across the country where buildings do not get the required planning consents the buildings are left to rot, so thateven local residents so angered by having a monstrosity on their doorsteps end up backing any development rather than have the ugly building on their doorstep, so now a new build will get planning consent and the whole structure will be torn down massively increasing the buildings value, the owners should be forced to pay a fine to the council for allowing this building (Built for H Samuel ) to become such a blot on the landscape, the problem is many owners will allow the buildings to decay until they get the consents THEY want they no that residents end up telling the council do something give them permission for something rather than look at this horror on our doorsteps, someone caused this fire on purpose could be anyone at all local resident etc lightening my **** mpdor
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2:58pm Thu 27 Dec 12

jobsworthwatch says...

Would have made a good Wetherspoons!
Would have made a good Wetherspoons! jobsworthwatch
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3:18pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Goldbar says...

It was a haven for druggies, infested with rats etc. So a sad as it is, ever cloud has a silver lining and pehaps something worth while may happen with the land.

Note to Council do allow your brown envelope bearing cronies to build bedsits there
It was a haven for druggies, infested with rats etc. So a sad as it is, ever cloud has a silver lining and pehaps something worth while may happen with the land. Note to Council do allow your brown envelope bearing cronies to build bedsits there Goldbar
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3:22pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Wallisdown says...

mpdor wrote:
I do not think for one moment that a lightening bolt caused this fire, id bet everything that this is arson pure and simple, obviously i would not suggest that the current oners have committed arson, but across the country where buildings do not get the required planning consents the buildings are left to rot, so thateven local residents so angered by having a monstrosity on their doorsteps end up backing any development rather than have the ugly building on their doorstep, so now a new build will get planning consent and the whole structure will be torn down massively increasing the buildings value, the owners should be forced to pay a fine to the council for allowing this building (Built for H Samuel ) to become such a blot on the landscape, the problem is many owners will allow the buildings to decay until they get the consents THEY want they no that residents end up telling the council do something give them permission for something rather than look at this horror on our doorsteps, someone caused this fire on purpose could be anyone at all local resident etc lightening my ****
It was a lightning strike, there's two on the lightning plotter shortly after 6am this morning, the first which woke me up and second centred in on boscombe, there are also others further west which probably account for the school fire as well.
[quote][p][bold]mpdor[/bold] wrote: I do not think for one moment that a lightening bolt caused this fire, id bet everything that this is arson pure and simple, obviously i would not suggest that the current oners have committed arson, but across the country where buildings do not get the required planning consents the buildings are left to rot, so thateven local residents so angered by having a monstrosity on their doorsteps end up backing any development rather than have the ugly building on their doorstep, so now a new build will get planning consent and the whole structure will be torn down massively increasing the buildings value, the owners should be forced to pay a fine to the council for allowing this building (Built for H Samuel ) to become such a blot on the landscape, the problem is many owners will allow the buildings to decay until they get the consents THEY want they no that residents end up telling the council do something give them permission for something rather than look at this horror on our doorsteps, someone caused this fire on purpose could be anyone at all local resident etc lightening my ****[/p][/quote]It was a lightning strike, there's two on the lightning plotter shortly after 6am this morning, the first which woke me up and second centred in on boscombe, there are also others further west which probably account for the school fire as well. Wallisdown
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3:34pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Chiqqy says...

A lightning bolt did cause this fire and it struck about 6:10AM and not 6:30AM because I was on my way to work just going down the hill towards the traffic lights,nearly fell off my bike after bright white light flashed in my face. That was then followed by the loudest crash of thunder you'd ever heard in your life.

Then torrential rain....which was lovely.
Stopped when I got to work.

Shame the whole thing didn't burn down really.
A lightning bolt did cause this fire and it struck about 6:10AM and not 6:30AM because I was on my way to work just going down the hill towards the traffic lights,nearly fell off my bike after bright white light flashed in my face. That was then followed by the loudest crash of thunder you'd ever heard in your life. Then torrential rain....which was lovely. Stopped when I got to work. Shame the whole thing didn't burn down really. Chiqqy
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4:10pm Thu 27 Dec 12

GhostHunter says...

It's war of the worlds
It's war of the worlds GhostHunter
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5:36pm Thu 27 Dec 12

beachcomber1 says...

derelcit wreck of a hotel - Boscombe. if it were nice and posh it'd be called East Cliff! lol Boscombe bashers never stop, do they?
derelcit wreck of a hotel - Boscombe. if it were nice and posh it'd be called East Cliff! lol Boscombe bashers never stop, do they? beachcomber1
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5:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

beachcomber1 says...

NB it is actually in the Ward of East Cliff and Springbourne. i doubt the well heeled residents of that end of Manor Road would wish to be thought of as living in Boscombe.
NB it is actually in the Ward of East Cliff and Springbourne. i doubt the well heeled residents of that end of Manor Road would wish to be thought of as living in Boscombe. beachcomber1
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5:52pm Thu 27 Dec 12

djkent says...

all the people in the high rise flats should be luckly there places didnt get strike by lighting they wouldnt be left standing they are the big eyesores in boscombe 1920 art deco crap
all the people in the high rise flats should be luckly there places didnt get strike by lighting they wouldnt be left standing they are the big eyesores in boscombe 1920 art deco crap djkent
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7:00pm Thu 27 Dec 12

ams_13 says...

I can confirm this was 100% lightning strike I am directly opposite and probably the closest person to where the lightning struck i was awake at the time and thought the world was ending. The power of nature the power of God .
I can confirm this was 100% lightning strike I am directly opposite and probably the closest person to where the lightning struck i was awake at the time and thought the world was ending. The power of nature the power of God . ams_13
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7:26pm Thu 27 Dec 12

BISA.GB says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
Please read my second post - I agree with you!

Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.
This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjb10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing[/p][/quote]Please read my second post - I agree with you! Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.[/p][/quote]This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it BISA.GB
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8:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

boscombe p says...

As the leaseholder we feel it would be useful to those that have posted comments here to be aware of certain facts.
We purchased the lease with a view to developing the property. Since the purchase every obstacle possible has been put in our way by the freeholder Meyrick Estates. Without this obstruction we have no doubt that the property would have been well on its way to being redeveloped. During our time as leaseholders we have tried to make the site as secure and unattractive to intruders as possible but nothing can make a sight fully secure from those totally determined to break in.
The legal obstacles placed in our path to stop us from developing by Meyrick Estates are a matter of public record.
The preferred concept was to remove the flat end extensions and develop around the Victorian Core. Generally the preferred option. (This may now have to be reviewed.)
The Council have always been supportive of this type of development and a design statement has been prepared to this effect.
We hope that this latest incident will prove to be a catalyst in the redevelopment of such an important site site so that it can once again contribute to the local community.
As the leaseholder we feel it would be useful to those that have posted comments here to be aware of certain facts. We purchased the lease with a view to developing the property. Since the purchase every obstacle possible has been put in our way by the freeholder Meyrick Estates. Without this obstruction we have no doubt that the property would have been well on its way to being redeveloped. During our time as leaseholders we have tried to make the site as secure and unattractive to intruders as possible but nothing can make a sight fully secure from those totally determined to break in. The legal obstacles placed in our path to stop us from developing by Meyrick Estates are a matter of public record. The preferred concept was to remove the flat end extensions and develop around the Victorian Core. Generally the preferred option. (This may now have to be reviewed.) The Council have always been supportive of this type of development and a design statement has been prepared to this effect. We hope that this latest incident will prove to be a catalyst in the redevelopment of such an important site site so that it can once again contribute to the local community. boscombe p
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11:40pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Lord Spring says...

BISA.GB wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
Please read my second post - I agree with you!

Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.
This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it
And a infamous murder of Rattenbury which went down in the annuals of crime.
You could not have work there long I could swear it been has been closed for many years.
[quote][p][bold]BISA.GB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjb10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing[/p][/quote]Please read my second post - I agree with you! Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.[/p][/quote]This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it[/p][/quote]And a infamous murder of Rattenbury which went down in the annuals of crime. You could not have work there long I could swear it been has been closed for many years. Lord Spring
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8:22am Fri 28 Dec 12

Gastines2 says...

At last a comment giving some facts about the lack of work on this site,good old Meyrick Estates still making life as awkward as possible for leaseholders.
At last a comment giving some facts about the lack of work on this site,good old Meyrick Estates still making life as awkward as possible for leaseholders. Gastines2
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11:08am Fri 28 Dec 12

PaulRaffle says...

Let's hope the Echo report FULLY the case which will be heard around March 2013 ( unless it is postponed yet again). The council seem to have absolved themselves of any responsibility for the disgraceful state of this site, no matter how often they are contacted. Many holidaymakers use the route through Boscombe Gardens to the beach, what on earth must they think about this eyesore.
Let's hope the Echo report FULLY the case which will be heard around March 2013 ( unless it is postponed yet again). The council seem to have absolved themselves of any responsibility for the disgraceful state of this site, no matter how often they are contacted. Many holidaymakers use the route through Boscombe Gardens to the beach, what on earth must they think about this eyesore. PaulRaffle
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4:37pm Fri 28 Dec 12

andyjb10 says...

boscombe p wrote:
As the leaseholder we feel it would be useful to those that have posted comments here to be aware of certain facts.
We purchased the lease with a view to developing the property. Since the purchase every obstacle possible has been put in our way by the freeholder Meyrick Estates. Without this obstruction we have no doubt that the property would have been well on its way to being redeveloped. During our time as leaseholders we have tried to make the site as secure and unattractive to intruders as possible but nothing can make a sight fully secure from those totally determined to break in.
The legal obstacles placed in our path to stop us from developing by Meyrick Estates are a matter of public record.
The preferred concept was to remove the flat end extensions and develop around the Victorian Core. Generally the preferred option. (This may now have to be reviewed.)
The Council have always been supportive of this type of development and a design statement has been prepared to this effect.
We hope that this latest incident will prove to be a catalyst in the redevelopment of such an important site site so that it can once again contribute to the local community.
All the best in your attempt at dealing with the Meyrick Estate and returning this once grand building to its former glory.

It's good to see developers not wanting to pull down buildings of interest just to be replaced with lego blocks.

Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]boscombe p[/bold] wrote: As the leaseholder we feel it would be useful to those that have posted comments here to be aware of certain facts. We purchased the lease with a view to developing the property. Since the purchase every obstacle possible has been put in our way by the freeholder Meyrick Estates. Without this obstruction we have no doubt that the property would have been well on its way to being redeveloped. During our time as leaseholders we have tried to make the site as secure and unattractive to intruders as possible but nothing can make a sight fully secure from those totally determined to break in. The legal obstacles placed in our path to stop us from developing by Meyrick Estates are a matter of public record. The preferred concept was to remove the flat end extensions and develop around the Victorian Core. Generally the preferred option. (This may now have to be reviewed.) The Council have always been supportive of this type of development and a design statement has been prepared to this effect. We hope that this latest incident will prove to be a catalyst in the redevelopment of such an important site site so that it can once again contribute to the local community.[/p][/quote]All the best in your attempt at dealing with the Meyrick Estate and returning this once grand building to its former glory. It's good to see developers not wanting to pull down buildings of interest just to be replaced with lego blocks. Good luck. andyjb10
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4:46pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Bob49 says...

I doubt it was a lightning strike.

I should imagine it was a boat strike (they can do an enormous amount of damage) - and it might also explain why no one saw anything either.
I doubt it was a lightning strike. I should imagine it was a boat strike (they can do an enormous amount of damage) - and it might also explain why no one saw anything either. Bob49
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12:19am Sat 29 Dec 12

KSpongebob says...

This is so sad to see :( I worked at this hotel for a few years under Mr and Mrs Leonard and then Mr and Mrs Knights :) I had a few happy years there, starting when I was still at school. It was a lovely hotel :) So sad to see it left to rot :(
This is so sad to see :( I worked at this hotel for a few years under Mr and Mrs Leonard and then Mr and Mrs Knights :) I had a few happy years there, starting when I was still at school. It was a lovely hotel :) So sad to see it left to rot :( KSpongebob
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12:29am Sat 29 Dec 12

KSpongebob says...

It's been closed 10 years Lord Spring :)
It's been closed 10 years Lord Spring :) KSpongebob
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12:30am Sat 29 Dec 12

KSpongebob says...

Lord Spring wrote:
BISA.GB wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
andyjb10 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place.

It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.
It's not a blessing in the slightest.

The original building was lovely and of interest.

Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing
Please read my second post - I agree with you!

Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.
This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it
And a infamous murder of Rattenbury which went down in the annuals of crime.
You could not have work there long I could swear it been has been closed for many years.
It's been closed 10 years :(
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BISA.GB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjb10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: To be honest I'm surprised it's taken this long for this to happen. This place has been derelict and boarded up for years and has been used as a 'den' by druggies and teenagers for a long while, and I'm surprised that no one has been badly injured or even killed in this place. It should have been demolished years ago - why hasn't it? Thankfully the fire will have destroyed most of the internal structure so it won't be used in this way again. A blessing.[/p][/quote]It's not a blessing in the slightest. The original building was lovely and of interest. Demolishing buildings and replacing them with concrete lego blocks is far from a blessing[/p][/quote]Please read my second post - I agree with you! Also it IS a blessing in the context of what I was saying - i.e. that the fire has removed the danger of anyone being fatally injured in the building as it was being used inappropriately.[/p][/quote]This was the first hotel i worked in when i arrived in Bournemouth 12 yrs ago. The original part of the building (Center) was quite grand in its time. I was once told by the chef that manor road was once known as millionaires row i was led to believe that the business owners from Ratners. Beechams. and Boots once occupied these building. But i agree with mum its a danger and should be pulled down There was planning permission applied to pull it down and build flats before it got closed but i believe the council rejected it[/p][/quote]And a infamous murder of Rattenbury which went down in the annuals of crime. You could not have work there long I could swear it been has been closed for many years.[/p][/quote]It's been closed 10 years :( KSpongebob
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6:32am Sat 29 Dec 12

bmthgrouch says...

Seen Kestrel security vans parked outside, several times over the past few nights.
Maybe someone thinks this fire was started deliberately?!!
Seen Kestrel security vans parked outside, several times over the past few nights. Maybe someone thinks this fire was started deliberately?!! bmthgrouch
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11:16am Sun 30 Dec 12

Dexterwest says...

If it was a certain Bournemouth landlord, I'm sure the planning application would be submitted at 9am on 2nd January!
If it was a certain Bournemouth landlord, I'm sure the planning application would be submitted at 9am on 2nd January! Dexterwest
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