Pilkington Tiles site homes plan set to get go-ahead

DECISION TIME: An artist’s impression of the proposed generation at Blandford Road, Hamworthy

DECISION TIME: An artist’s impression of the proposed generation at Blandford Road, Hamworthy

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ONE of Poole’s major regeneration sites, which would provide 268 new homes, goes before planners today.

The former Pilkington Tiles site in Blandford Road, Hamworthy goes to Borough of Poole’s planning committee with a recommendation to grant.

Carter’s Quay is one of four sites known collectively as The Regeneration Area, proposals for the 9.8 acre waterfront mixed use development include retail space and offices along with 436 parking spaces.

There would be a new site entrance onto Blandford Road, public open space and landscaping, electricity substation and foul water pumping station.

In June Inland Homes Ltd, responded to comments from a variety of bodies about the port link road, including the highway authority, Borough of Poole conservation officers, the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment, Vision for Poole Group and Hamside Residents’ Association and made major changes.

“The design of the road has been significantly altered to make it less dominating and a more attractive feature of the scheme,” said Mark Gilpin, planning director.

In her report to the committee, planning officer Caroline Palmer said: “The current proposal meets the market housing need and delivers quality and vitality to the new waterfront through the creation of a new public waterfront and quayside activity space, as well as new business floor space.

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“It is acknowledged however, that due to the current viability of the scheme no affordable housing is proposed.”

The Vision for Poole Group, which includes Poole Old Town Residents Association and Hamside Residents Association said the revised plans showed “considerable improvements” to the layout of the port link road.

Chairman Bill Constance said in a letter to the council: “We remain concerned about some of the issues raised by this application, namely the amount of amenity space, the phasing of the proposed public quayside and employment floor space.”

However he said the group no longer objected to the application provided there was public open space provided on site and a detailed phasing and management plan was approved.

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11:22am Thu 6 Dec 12

Ebb Tide says...

Hopefully relevant lessons have been learnt and any conditions attached to any approval will avoid the problems associated with earlier conditional approvals. Non-appearance of 'park & ride' facilities, absence of affordable houses and absence of public access facilities spring to mind.
Hopefully relevant lessons have been learnt and any conditions attached to any approval will avoid the problems associated with earlier conditional approvals. Non-appearance of 'park & ride' facilities, absence of affordable houses and absence of public access facilities spring to mind. Ebb Tide
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4:12pm Thu 6 Dec 12

glluckett2 says...

Do we know if this application got approval today please ?
Do we know if this application got approval today please ? glluckett2
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5:11pm Thu 6 Dec 12

BROCKSDAD says...

Hope they sort out the ****-up at the lights where the road from the new bridge meets blandford rd, lights by the school change which causes the traffic going up blandford rd to block the exit from the bridge by the time the traffic on the main rd has cleared the lights on the bridge rd have turned red again, what idiot thought it a good idea to have the entrance to the infant/middle school on the main rd and why do the lights need to be on apart from the beginning of school and the end of school millions of drivers have maneuvered in and out of the side Rd's for years without traffic lights
Hope they sort out the ****-up at the lights where the road from the new bridge meets blandford rd, lights by the school change which causes the traffic going up blandford rd to block the exit from the bridge by the time the traffic on the main rd has cleared the lights on the bridge rd have turned red again, what idiot thought it a good idea to have the entrance to the infant/middle school on the main rd and why do the lights need to be on apart from the beginning of school and the end of school millions of drivers have maneuvered in and out of the side Rd's for years without traffic lights BROCKSDAD
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5:18pm Thu 6 Dec 12

portia6 says...

I thought there was a need for
"affordable housing"!
I thought there was a need for "affordable housing"! portia6
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5:20pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Old Colonial says...

“It is acknowledged however, that due to the current viability of the scheme no affordable housing is proposed.”

Can we have plain language please? If the housing is unaffordable, why build? Or is this just a way of saying the properties will be designed to be out of the reach of the majority of the population requiring it?
“It is acknowledged however, that due to the current viability of the scheme no affordable housing is proposed.” Can we have plain language please? If the housing is unaffordable, why build? Or is this just a way of saying the properties will be designed to be out of the reach of the majority of the population requiring it? Old Colonial
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6:24pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Ebb Tide says...

Old Colonial wrote:
“It is acknowledged however, that due to the current viability of the scheme no affordable housing is proposed.”

Can we have plain language please? If the housing is unaffordable, why build? Or is this just a way of saying the properties will be designed to be out of the reach of the majority of the population requiring it?
Plain language and openness with transparency ! Brilliant !! It would then be possible to understand and help our Councillors make valid decisions. However, we must ensure we have Councillors that feel they need to keep consulting with their electorate after they have been elected.

I suspect "Affordable housing" is a euphemism for 'Council housing' that does need to be replaced but the means of securing any such replacement is not so easy as the selling of the assets now needing to be replaced !
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: “It is acknowledged however, that due to the current viability of the scheme no affordable housing is proposed.” Can we have plain language please? If the housing is unaffordable, why build? Or is this just a way of saying the properties will be designed to be out of the reach of the majority of the population requiring it?[/p][/quote]Plain language and openness with transparency ! Brilliant !! It would then be possible to understand and help our Councillors make valid decisions. However, we must ensure we have Councillors that feel they need to keep consulting with their electorate after they have been elected. I suspect "Affordable housing" is a euphemism for 'Council housing' that does need to be replaced but the means of securing any such replacement is not so easy as the selling of the assets now needing to be replaced ! Ebb Tide
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7:57pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Loyal2AFCB says...

I was under the impression that housing developments over a certain number of units were supposed to include a percentage of affordable housing? I would have thought this scheme comes in well above the opt out level.
I was under the impression that housing developments over a certain number of units were supposed to include a percentage of affordable housing? I would have thought this scheme comes in well above the opt out level. Loyal2AFCB
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12:22pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Ebb Tide says...

Loyal2AFCB wrote:
I was under the impression that housing developments over a certain number of units were supposed to include a percentage of affordable housing? I would have thought this scheme comes in well above the opt out level.
Hence, it is understood, the suggested £2,000,000 for the Council to 'invest' since the developer is unable to include the affordable units on the specific site being developed.

We have to hope the Council do manage to invest the cash in something other than consultants fees, reports and administration.
[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote: I was under the impression that housing developments over a certain number of units were supposed to include a percentage of affordable housing? I would have thought this scheme comes in well above the opt out level.[/p][/quote]Hence, it is understood, the suggested £2,000,000 for the Council to 'invest' since the developer is unable to include the affordable units on the specific site being developed. We have to hope the Council do manage to invest the cash in something other than consultants fees, reports and administration. Ebb Tide
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3:50pm Fri 7 Dec 12

paul.p says...

No doubt they'll build another set of traffic lights.

Build if you must but make sure anyone who is already here gets the opportunity to get first refusal, getting a bit cheesed off with the amount of people coming from god knows where and taking advantage.
No doubt they'll build another set of traffic lights. Build if you must but make sure anyone who is already here gets the opportunity to get first refusal, getting a bit cheesed off with the amount of people coming from god knows where and taking advantage. paul.p
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5:24pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Ebb Tide says...

paul.p wrote:
No doubt they'll build another set of traffic lights.

Build if you must but make sure anyone who is already here gets the opportunity to get first refusal, getting a bit cheesed off with the amount of people coming from god knows where and taking advantage.
I suspect 'localism' may just give us enough openness and transparency to enable us to speak helpfully to those Councillors that are free to think constructively about fostering the betterment of Poole.

Surely the smell of ripe cheese can be reduced in the process ?
[quote][p][bold]paul.p[/bold] wrote: No doubt they'll build another set of traffic lights. Build if you must but make sure anyone who is already here gets the opportunity to get first refusal, getting a bit cheesed off with the amount of people coming from god knows where and taking advantage.[/p][/quote]I suspect 'localism' may just give us enough openness and transparency to enable us to speak helpfully to those Councillors that are free to think constructively about fostering the betterment of Poole. Surely the smell of ripe cheese can be reduced in the process ? Ebb Tide
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6:15pm Fri 7 Dec 12

paul.p says...

I'm also a bit confused about the statement...consider
able improvements to the port link road...what improvements? There hasn't and never will be ANY improvements to this section of highway.

Blandford road between the old bridge and Co-op is a sewer of idea's concocted by idiots of the highest order. I wouldn't trust these people to put up a Shed!

If they had started to compulsory purchase 20 years ago then the planners could've set out this area to be not only benificial to the economy/transport but also benificial to the populous living in Hamworthy, instead we now have a road that is congested pretty much all day, with traffic lights on every corner that don't have any sequence with more and more houses/flats/traffic than the road can handle and a port road that goes no where, the whole place is one massive balls up.

For those who go to the local meetings, look for the members with either their hands over their ears or one hand behind their backs....
I'm also a bit confused about the statement...consider able improvements to the port link road...what improvements? There hasn't and never will be ANY improvements to this section of highway. Blandford road between the old bridge and Co-op is a sewer of idea's concocted by idiots of the highest order. I wouldn't trust these people to put up a Shed! If they had started to compulsory purchase 20 years ago then the planners could've set out this area to be not only benificial to the economy/transport but also benificial to the populous living in Hamworthy, instead we now have a road that is congested pretty much all day, with traffic lights on every corner that don't have any sequence with more and more houses/flats/traffic than the road can handle and a port road that goes no where, the whole place is one massive balls up. For those who go to the local meetings, look for the members with either their hands over their ears or one hand behind their backs.... paul.p
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