Christchurch's Museum of Electricity closes its doors

Bournemouth Echo: Christchurch's Museum of Electricity closes its doors Christchurch's Museum of Electricity closes its doors

THE Museum of Electricity in Christchurch has closed “indefinitely” with nine members of staff losing their jobs.

An independent review found that the Bargates museum, set in an Edwardian power station, does not fulfil its visitor needs and has restricted disabled access.

Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which funds the museum, dedicated to the history of electricity, said it could not afford the necessary "seven figure sum" redevelopment works.

Nine paid members of staff have been made redundant and several volunteers have also lost their posts.

The museum, which closes between the end of September and Easter, will not reopen in the spring as planned.

SSE spokesman Julian Reeves said the company was discussing redeployment opportunities with staff members and would continue to provide an education service for schools and colleges.

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5:42pm Mon 3 Dec 12

pugs0404 says...

not surprised i only new it was there because i sometimes walk past the entrance
not surprised i only new it was there because i sometimes walk past the entrance pugs0404
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5:44pm Mon 3 Dec 12

aerolover says...

What a shame that it has to close, it was a good afternoon for the kids and showed them there was other thing out playstations.
Loved the old cookers, cleaners and the stone coffin.
I wonder what will happen to all the display items?
What a shame that it has to close, it was a good afternoon for the kids and showed them there was other thing out playstations. Loved the old cookers, cleaners and the stone coffin. I wonder what will happen to all the display items? aerolover
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6:05pm Mon 3 Dec 12

spiderpig says...

Such a shame, why do places have to get tied up in so much red tape, this place was an education in itself, some of the exhibts were donated by us on the death of a relative, would these historic items be destined to land fill in the future............so sorry to hear this news
Such a shame, why do places have to get tied up in so much red tape, this place was an education in itself, some of the exhibts were donated by us on the death of a relative, would these historic items be destined to land fill in the future............so sorry to hear this news spiderpig
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6:30pm Mon 3 Dec 12

High Treason says...

Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed.
Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed. High Treason
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6:45pm Mon 3 Dec 12

rebelred says...

Great shame. Good experience for kids. Hope all the displays and tram is put to good use else where.
Great shame. Good experience for kids. Hope all the displays and tram is put to good use else where. rebelred
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7:03pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Phixer says...

High Treason wrote:
Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed.
I think that was the main problem, not widely advertised but a great museum.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed.[/p][/quote]I think that was the main problem, not widely advertised but a great museum. Phixer
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7:28pm Mon 3 Dec 12

muscliffman says...

No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like.

This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable.

A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest.
No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like. This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable. A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest. muscliffman
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7:45pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Bournefre says...

If they'd wanted it to be profitable they would have charged an admission fee instead of making it free for everyone.
It wasn't just a good experience for kids, it was an interesting all-weather attraction for people of all ages - something many Echo readers want to see more of.

Just because it may have been difficult to get a wheelchair upstairs shouldn't mean the attraction needs to be ruined for everyone else; by that logic Christchurch Priory should be shut down because it's difficult to get a wheelchair up the tower steps.
If they'd wanted it to be profitable they would have charged an admission fee instead of making it free for everyone. It wasn't just a good experience for kids, it was an interesting all-weather attraction for people of all ages - something many Echo readers want to see more of. Just because it may have been difficult to get a wheelchair upstairs shouldn't mean the attraction needs to be ruined for everyone else; by that logic Christchurch Priory should be shut down because it's difficult to get a wheelchair up the tower steps. Bournefre
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8:27pm Mon 3 Dec 12

fantasanta says...

i think we need to concede sometimes that some of the historic buildings are not viable for the disabled ,not to exclude them ,its just the practicality of modifying some of these places , its not just entrances and stairways but toilets and handrails and then facilities for the deaf and blind . once you go that route it has to be for everyone
these big companies are not really owned by anyone with an interest in their history , if it doesnt make money ,they bin it and heres a victim by the look of it
i think we need to concede sometimes that some of the historic buildings are not viable for the disabled ,not to exclude them ,its just the practicality of modifying some of these places , its not just entrances and stairways but toilets and handrails and then facilities for the deaf and blind . once you go that route it has to be for everyone these big companies are not really owned by anyone with an interest in their history , if it doesnt make money ,they bin it and heres a victim by the look of it fantasanta
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8:34pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Crank says...

Disastrous. But, sadly typical for Christchurch. Gone the way of the Tricycle Museum. But it was a fantastically interesting and important place, and the tram was a marvel. And you could handle the objects. I shall miss it immensely. Wish something could be done.
Disastrous. But, sadly typical for Christchurch. Gone the way of the Tricycle Museum. But it was a fantastically interesting and important place, and the tram was a marvel. And you could handle the objects. I shall miss it immensely. Wish something could be done. Crank
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9:31pm Mon 3 Dec 12

dvdr says...

This is awful news. I remember taking my young grandson there, in the phase when he was fascinated by electricity and all things electrical. The real highlight of his visit was having a picnic beneath the electricity pylon on the site, as near as he could get to real electricity, after gazing in rapture at all the electrical stuff in the museum - and the tram!

But, as it is said, money talks, and seemingly in this case it shouts. Big business does not care who gets hurt or loses out, but I wish it did. Black mark to SSE.
This is awful news. I remember taking my young grandson there, in the phase when he was fascinated by electricity and all things electrical. The real highlight of his visit was having a picnic beneath the electricity pylon on the site, as near as he could get to real electricity, after gazing in rapture at all the electrical stuff in the museum - and the tram! But, as it is said, money talks, and seemingly in this case it shouts. Big business does not care who gets hurt or loses out, but I wish it did. Black mark to SSE. dvdr
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10:27pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Bournefre says...

Please sign the petition to keep it open:

http://www.activism.
com/en_GB/petition/s
ave-southern-electri
c-museum-of-electric
ity/40995
Please sign the petition to keep it open: http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995 Bournefre
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10:40pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Buddles says...

Phixer wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed.
I think that was the main problem, not widely advertised but a great museum.
I've never heard of it either. I would have loved to have seen it.
What a shame....through lack of promotion, many suffer.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Never knew it existed. Perhaps the tourism department at Christchurch town hall never knew it existed.[/p][/quote]I think that was the main problem, not widely advertised but a great museum.[/p][/quote]I've never heard of it either. I would have loved to have seen it. What a shame....through lack of promotion, many suffer. Buddles
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11:13pm Mon 3 Dec 12

reeve007 says...

I have lost count of the number of holiday visitors I have directed to the museum.

Have had reports back to say how much they enjoyed their visits.

It is a shame that it has closed, it is part of our heritage and should be maintained
I have lost count of the number of holiday visitors I have directed to the museum. Have had reports back to say how much they enjoyed their visits. It is a shame that it has closed, it is part of our heritage and should be maintained reeve007
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11:48pm Mon 3 Dec 12

GadgetMaster says...

What a shame - I never even knew it existed! Would have been interested in having a look around. Sorry for the staff.
What a shame - I never even knew it existed! Would have been interested in having a look around. Sorry for the staff. GadgetMaster
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11:48pm Mon 3 Dec 12

GadgetMaster says...

What a shame - I never even knew it existed! Would have been interested in having a look around. Sorry for the staff.
What a shame - I never even knew it existed! Would have been interested in having a look around. Sorry for the staff. GadgetMaster
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7:08am Tue 4 Dec 12

oneshortleg says...

muscliffman wrote:
No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like.

This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable.

A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest.
Actually this musuem was free, yes free you could make a donation if you wanted.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like. This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable. A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest.[/p][/quote]Actually this musuem was free, yes free you could make a donation if you wanted. oneshortleg
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7:12am Tue 4 Dec 12

oneshortleg says...

This is such a shame i took the kids there it was a fantastic place a national treasure, shame it can't be saved surely if all the electric companies chipped in it can be saved. I urge the Echo to support a campaign to save it.
This is such a shame i took the kids there it was a fantastic place a national treasure, shame it can't be saved surely if all the electric companies chipped in it can be saved. I urge the Echo to support a campaign to save it. oneshortleg
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7:20am Tue 4 Dec 12

Bournefre says...

You can help by signing the online petition to save it:
http://www.activism.
com/en_GB/petition/s
ave-southern-electri
c-museum-of-electric
ity/40995
You can help by signing the online petition to save it: http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995 Bournefre
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8:01am Tue 4 Dec 12

fantasanta says...

perhaps someone who works there could approach SEB about just taking it off their hands and running it themselves and if SEB wont let it go for free agree to purchase it or rent it and on a weekly basis and turn it into a paying attraction - you have the knowhow ??
perhaps someone who works there could approach SEB about just taking it off their hands and running it themselves and if SEB wont let it go for free agree to purchase it or rent it and on a weekly basis and turn it into a paying attraction - you have the knowhow ?? fantasanta
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8:23am Tue 4 Dec 12

tinkerten says...

So sad to hear that it will close. A very interesting place and we have visited it several times, also recommended it to tourist, who say they loved it, though without us telling them about it, they would not have known it was there.

Local council should try to find someone to operate it.

I just signed the petition to keep it at:

You can help by signing the online petition to save it:
http://www.activism.

com/en_GB/petition/s

ave-southern-electri

c-museum-of-electric

ity/40995
So sad to hear that it will close. A very interesting place and we have visited it several times, also recommended it to tourist, who say they loved it, though without us telling them about it, they would not have known it was there. Local council should try to find someone to operate it. I just signed the petition to keep it at: You can help by signing the online petition to save it: http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995 tinkerten
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9:55am Tue 4 Dec 12

jinglebell says...

Just seen that JP Morgan has given £1 million to aid poor children achieve in Bournemouth. Any chance of asking them for a business plan to ensure the museum stays open and becomes financially viable and some initially funds?
Education is about so much more than just being in the classroom; this was a marvellous museum but I agree it was not advertised and with no entry or other way to make an income it could not be sustained.
It needs a business plan to work out how it can become financially viable....so why not ask JP to do this?
Just seen that JP Morgan has given £1 million to aid poor children achieve in Bournemouth. Any chance of asking them for a business plan to ensure the museum stays open and becomes financially viable and some initially funds? Education is about so much more than just being in the classroom; this was a marvellous museum but I agree it was not advertised and with no entry or other way to make an income it could not be sustained. It needs a business plan to work out how it can become financially viable....so why not ask JP to do this? jinglebell
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10:06am Tue 4 Dec 12

Crank says...

jinglebell wrote:
Just seen that JP Morgan has given £1 million to aid poor children achieve in Bournemouth. Any chance of asking them for a business plan to ensure the museum stays open and becomes financially viable and some initially funds?
Education is about so much more than just being in the classroom; this was a marvellous museum but I agree it was not advertised and with no entry or other way to make an income it could not be sustained.
It needs a business plan to work out how it can become financially viable....so why not ask JP to do this?
Can you take this up, Jinglebell?
[quote][p][bold]jinglebell[/bold] wrote: Just seen that JP Morgan has given £1 million to aid poor children achieve in Bournemouth. Any chance of asking them for a business plan to ensure the museum stays open and becomes financially viable and some initially funds? Education is about so much more than just being in the classroom; this was a marvellous museum but I agree it was not advertised and with no entry or other way to make an income it could not be sustained. It needs a business plan to work out how it can become financially viable....so why not ask JP to do this?[/p][/quote]Can you take this up, Jinglebell? Crank
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11:06am Tue 4 Dec 12

The Seasider says...

Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points:

1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3%

SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues.

The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year.

SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago."

2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed.

3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children.

Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable.
Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points: 1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3% SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues. The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year. SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago." 2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed. 3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children. Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable. The Seasider
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11:17am Tue 4 Dec 12

The Liberal says...

Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which funds the museum, dedicated to the history of electricity, said it could not afford the necessary "seven figure sum" redevelopment works.

Is this the same SSE that saw first-half-of-year profits soar to £397.5 million and raised its dividend to shareholders by 5%?
[quote]Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which funds the museum, dedicated to the history of electricity, said it could not afford the necessary "seven figure sum" redevelopment works.[/quote] Is this the same SSE that saw first-half-of-year profits soar to £397.5 million and raised its dividend to shareholders by 5%? The Liberal
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11:54am Tue 4 Dec 12

jinglebell says...

The Seasider wrote:
Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points:

1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3%

SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues.

The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year.

SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago."

2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed.

3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children.

Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable.
Didn't know this....well in that case, SSE can legally re-establish the museum as a registered charity and make yearly donations to fund the charity, and get tax relief. With those kind of profits, I'm sure they would be glad of a way of getting some tax relief!
SSE can also be the ones to come up with a sounder business plan to ensure long term financial stability and also pay for some advertising.
Since they have made such substantial profits, it would be far more palatable if some of those profits were used to provide an educational environment, which the museum is.
Having said all that, its a **** disgrace that SSE are making so much profit on the backs of so many people struggling to pay bills and produce that profit. Many elderly people's reaction to high charges to sit in the cold and die. Age Concern estimates deaths in the UK at 30,000 a year.
Just as long as the share-holders get some money that's ok ....no, not ok ....
The exploitation of the poor to the benefit of the rich is disgraceful.
[quote][p][bold]The Seasider[/bold] wrote: Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points: 1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3% SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues. The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year. SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago." 2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed. 3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children. Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable.[/p][/quote]Didn't know this....well in that case, SSE can legally re-establish the museum as a registered charity and make yearly donations to fund the charity, and get tax relief. With those kind of profits, I'm sure they would be glad of a way of getting some tax relief! SSE can also be the ones to come up with a sounder business plan to ensure long term financial stability and also pay for some advertising. Since they have made such substantial profits, it would be far more palatable if some of those profits were used to provide an educational environment, which the museum is. Having said all that, its a **** disgrace that SSE are making so much profit on the backs of so many people struggling to pay bills and produce that profit. Many elderly people's reaction to high charges to sit in the cold and die. Age Concern estimates deaths in the UK at 30,000 a year. Just as long as the share-holders get some money that's ok ....no, not ok .... The exploitation of the poor to the benefit of the rich is disgraceful. jinglebell
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12:22pm Tue 4 Dec 12

liebert says...

Very disappointing its closing>

Any chance of an open week- end soon, so we can go and have a look??

URGENT!!
Very disappointing its closing> Any chance of an open week- end soon, so we can go and have a look?? URGENT!! liebert
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12:30pm Tue 4 Dec 12

hadvar says...

Museum of Electricity to close? That's a shock.
Museum of Electricity to close? That's a shock. hadvar
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12:41pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Crank says...

Some brilliant and constructive suggestions here, but will those who made them please follow them up? They won't get anywhere just as comments here . . .Jinglebell? . . .Seasider? . . . Liebert? . . .
Some brilliant and constructive suggestions here, but will those who made them please follow them up? They won't get anywhere just as comments here . . .Jinglebell? . . .Seasider? . . . Liebert? . . . Crank
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1:27pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Jo Ikarus says...

Yet another blow for the town. I though that making disabled access available was not mandatory if it could not be done sensibly. It didn’t seem crucial for nearly 27 years! Call me cynical but this smacks of an excuse for a money saving exercise - shameful. Yes, the opening hours were a little eccentric and it could have been better advertised but everyone we knew who visited enjoyed it. So much for inspiring the next generation of much needed engineers and scientists too. What will become of the collection – once dispersal starts that’s it – just like most of the aviation museum. And the building? The only good point is the sub station and pylons will prevent yet another block of flats.
Yet another blow for the town. I though that making disabled access available was not mandatory if it could not be done sensibly. It didn’t seem crucial for nearly 27 years! Call me cynical but this smacks of an excuse for a money saving exercise - shameful. Yes, the opening hours were a little eccentric and it could have been better advertised but everyone we knew who visited enjoyed it. So much for inspiring the next generation of much needed engineers and scientists too. What will become of the collection – once dispersal starts that’s it – just like most of the aviation museum. And the building? The only good point is the sub station and pylons will prevent yet another block of flats. Jo Ikarus
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2:03pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Rodney Trotter says...

Bournefre wrote:
Please sign the petition to keep it open:

http://www.activism.

com/en_GB/petition/s

ave-southern-electri

c-museum-of-electric

ity/40995
I would if the link worked, do you have another one please
[quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: Please sign the petition to keep it open: http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995[/p][/quote]I would if the link worked, do you have another one please Rodney Trotter
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2:06pm Tue 4 Dec 12

speedy231278 says...

http://www.activism.
com/en_GB/petition/s
ave-southern-electri
c-museum-of-electric
ity/40995
http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995 speedy231278
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2:11pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Rodney Trotter says...

jinglebell wrote:
The Seasider wrote:
Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points:

1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3%

SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues.

The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year.

SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago."

2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed.

3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children.

Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable.
Didn't know this....well in that case, SSE can legally re-establish the museum as a registered charity and make yearly donations to fund the charity, and get tax relief. With those kind of profits, I'm sure they would be glad of a way of getting some tax relief!
SSE can also be the ones to come up with a sounder business plan to ensure long term financial stability and also pay for some advertising.
Since they have made such substantial profits, it would be far more palatable if some of those profits were used to provide an educational environment, which the museum is.
Having said all that, its a **** disgrace that SSE are making so much profit on the backs of so many people struggling to pay bills and produce that profit. Many elderly people's reaction to high charges to sit in the cold and die. Age Concern estimates deaths in the UK at 30,000 a year.
Just as long as the share-holders get some money that's ok ....no, not ok ....
The exploitation of the poor to the benefit of the rich is disgraceful.
I agree, but that would mean the SSE would have to care....... and by the looks they don’t give a hoot! And I’m guessing if they did it would have to generate a big profit.
[quote][p][bold]jinglebell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seasider[/bold] wrote: Very sad to hear news of closure. But a few points: 1. From BBC website (14 Nov 2012 item): "SSE sees half-year profits rise 38.3% SSE chairman Lord Smith of Kelvin said that higher profits meant more jobs and tax revenues. The company made £397.5m in the six months to the end of September, compared with £287.4m in the same period last year. SSE, in line with other major energy suppliers, put up its domestic gas and electricity prices by an average of 9% one month ago." 2. Perhaps a Christchurch MP could take this up with Lord Smith. Hugely profitable SSE claiming they cant afford to keep it open. Utter rubbish. I bet the board are not even aware such a museum is being closed. 3. If it is saved. ADVERTISE IT! How is anybody supposed to know such a thing exists! Oh and charge a modest entry fee eg. £2 entry, £1 for children. Good luck, Im sure with a bit of effort, Christchurch councillors and MP could persuade a rethink by SSE on closure and perhaps agree a 3-5 year plan to promote it and see if it becomes viable.[/p][/quote]Didn't know this....well in that case, SSE can legally re-establish the museum as a registered charity and make yearly donations to fund the charity, and get tax relief. With those kind of profits, I'm sure they would be glad of a way of getting some tax relief! SSE can also be the ones to come up with a sounder business plan to ensure long term financial stability and also pay for some advertising. Since they have made such substantial profits, it would be far more palatable if some of those profits were used to provide an educational environment, which the museum is. Having said all that, its a **** disgrace that SSE are making so much profit on the backs of so many people struggling to pay bills and produce that profit. Many elderly people's reaction to high charges to sit in the cold and die. Age Concern estimates deaths in the UK at 30,000 a year. Just as long as the share-holders get some money that's ok ....no, not ok .... The exploitation of the poor to the benefit of the rich is disgraceful.[/p][/quote]I agree, but that would mean the SSE would have to care....... and by the looks they don’t give a hoot! And I’m guessing if they did it would have to generate a big profit. Rodney Trotter
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2:13pm Tue 4 Dec 12

stevobath says...

Bournefre wrote:
If they'd wanted it to be profitable they would have charged an admission fee instead of making it free for everyone.
It wasn't just a good experience for kids, it was an interesting all-weather attraction for people of all ages - something many Echo readers want to see more of.

Just because it may have been difficult to get a wheelchair upstairs shouldn't mean the attraction needs to be ruined for everyone else; by that logic Christchurch Priory should be shut down because it's difficult to get a wheelchair up the tower steps.
Thats just one aspect of the Priory.So people only go there to go up the tower?

The reason they closed was they couldnt afford the extortionate electric bills!
[quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: If they'd wanted it to be profitable they would have charged an admission fee instead of making it free for everyone. It wasn't just a good experience for kids, it was an interesting all-weather attraction for people of all ages - something many Echo readers want to see more of. Just because it may have been difficult to get a wheelchair upstairs shouldn't mean the attraction needs to be ruined for everyone else; by that logic Christchurch Priory should be shut down because it's difficult to get a wheelchair up the tower steps.[/p][/quote]Thats just one aspect of the Priory.So people only go there to go up the tower? The reason they closed was they couldnt afford the extortionate electric bills! stevobath
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6:52pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Bournefre says...

Rodney Trotter wrote:
Bournefre wrote:
Please sign the petition to keep it open:

http://www.activism.


com/en_GB/petition/s


ave-southern-electri


c-museum-of-electric


ity/40995
I would if the link worked, do you have another one please
I think you have to copy and paste each line consecutively I'm afraid.
Failing that if you go to http://www.activism.
com and type 'museum of electricity' into the search box it should take you to the petition.

50 signatures in under 24 hours has to be a sign that there is interest in keeping the museum open; many referred from the Institution of Engineering and Technology (previously the IEE) forum.
[quote][p][bold]Rodney Trotter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: Please sign the petition to keep it open: http://www.activism. com/en_GB/petition/s ave-southern-electri c-museum-of-electric ity/40995[/p][/quote]I would if the link worked, do you have another one please[/p][/quote]I think you have to copy and paste each line consecutively I'm afraid. Failing that if you go to http://www.activism. com and type 'museum of electricity' into the search box it should take you to the petition. 50 signatures in under 24 hours has to be a sign that there is interest in keeping the museum open; many referred from the Institution of Engineering and Technology (previously the IEE) forum. Bournefre
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7:20pm Tue 4 Dec 12

themummy says...

This is the best museum in Dorset. Have visited 4 times now, the staff are fantastic, the exhibits are brilliant, in fact if they close this place it would be a crime. Shame on those who think it should shut its doors. Sorry to those who cannot access all areas, due to disabilities, but I dont think that constitutes no-one ever able to visit. My sons school visited this Autumn and throughly enjoyed the visit. I would say it is under advertised though. I have known about it for about 12 years through an art course, but everytime I have visited it has always been busy. Keep it open and sign the petition please.
This is the best museum in Dorset. Have visited 4 times now, the staff are fantastic, the exhibits are brilliant, in fact if they close this place it would be a crime. Shame on those who think it should shut its doors. Sorry to those who cannot access all areas, due to disabilities, but I dont think that constitutes no-one ever able to visit. My sons school visited this Autumn and throughly enjoyed the visit. I would say it is under advertised though. I have known about it for about 12 years through an art course, but everytime I have visited it has always been busy. Keep it open and sign the petition please. themummy
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9:30pm Tue 4 Dec 12

muscliffman says...

oneshortleg wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like.

This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable.

A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest.
Actually this musuem was free, yes free you could make a donation if you wanted.
Sorry, but no idea what you mean here. I know it was free to go in.

The point I made is that it has been closed beciase it does not make money for the Company - end off.

Even a realistic admission charge would still not remedy the Company's profit driven attitude as it would still not cover costs.
[quote][p][bold]oneshortleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: No profit in it, at least be honest with us and don't waffle rubbish about access and the like. This Company's greed for profit has been shown to know no bounds, so chucking a bit of their own heritage on the bonfire to make a few extra quid is not a surprise. Especially when compared to what their energy charges are doing to the old and vulnerable. A shame to those us for whom money is not our only interest.[/p][/quote]Actually this musuem was free, yes free you could make a donation if you wanted.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but no idea what you mean here. I know it was free to go in. The point I made is that it has been closed beciase it does not make money for the Company - end off. Even a realistic admission charge would still not remedy the Company's profit driven attitude as it would still not cover costs. muscliffman
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5:25am Wed 5 Dec 12

pinkcarlady says...

How typical, SSE saving the equivalent of a few quid when compared to their overall profits. Pure greed. According to the Mail on Sunday a few weeks ago Ian Marchant the CEO who gets an obscene salary and bonus gets a discount on his electricity/gas bills. No wonder they need to save a bit for the shareholders. It's not onlu the Tourist info who should have advertised the museum, but SSE themselves. Some of the appliances etc were donated. I hope that SSE are going to return them to the original owners. For those who want a more direct way to complain there is a link on www.sse.com to their facebook page. Please use it to make your comments.
How typical, SSE saving the equivalent of a few quid when compared to their overall profits. Pure greed. According to the Mail on Sunday a few weeks ago Ian Marchant the CEO who gets an obscene salary and bonus gets a discount on his electricity/gas bills. No wonder they need to save a bit for the shareholders. It's not onlu the Tourist info who should have advertised the museum, but SSE themselves. Some of the appliances etc were donated. I hope that SSE are going to return them to the original owners. For those who want a more direct way to complain there is a link on www.sse.com to their facebook page. Please use it to make your comments. pinkcarlady
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11:36am Wed 5 Dec 12

Crank says...

The latest rubbish from SSE website:Hi Sylvia, we decided to close the Museum of Electricity following an independent study we commissioned earlier in the year, which looked at all SSE's visitors' and education resources.

The research undertaken indicated that we would have to invest a considerable capital sum to convert the Museum to a modern educational facility, including making considerable improvements to the access arrangements for people with physical disabilities.

The Museum is housed in a Victorian building that once housed a Power Station and as it is a listed building this imposes restrictions on alterations that can be made to the exterior of the building.

On balance, therefore, we have reached the conclusion that a Museum is not the most effective way in which to educate people about the energy sector, and we want to explore alternative options for providing an education resource, either at Christchurch or at another site in the south of England.

I hope this explanation helps to clarify the situation. Thanks, Holly.
AND MY REPLY:No - you've just made it worse. This is just PR. For a start, the building itself is not Victorian but Edwardian, and is an exhibit in its own right, generating the power for the 1905 tram lines. And listed buildings are not expected to meet disability access requirements if it cannot be done without altering the building adversely. Those regulations have been in place many years, but only recently do they appear to be seen as a problem - a convenient problem. I took my late father there in a wheelchair and the curator offered to bring things down from upstairs to show him. The building does not need 'converting to a modern facility': its charm lies in its incredible setting, kts hands-on collections, and its presentation, which was just perfect. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could even begin to match what this museum has. And to talk about 'the energy sector' as its primary educational role is utter nonsense: it contains items of historic interest, THINGS, which we used to have, from different periods to show how they evolved, and lost of them, eg the vacuum cleaners and the clocking-in machine, had no power source at all except muscle power. You could make this pay, if that's what you must have despite your huge profits (greatly increased this year), by a reasonable admission charge. Most of the staff were enthusiastic volunteers. It has a shop, which earned money. Have you not thought what it will do to our town and region's tourist economy? You've let us all down so badly, betrayed the generous spirit of those who gifted items and those who rescued or restored items to go in it. Shame on you, shame. You are being pilloried in the local press: have you thought what this philistine move will do to your electricity sales? Do we have to start a campaign not to buy energy from your company?
The latest rubbish from SSE website:Hi Sylvia, we decided to close the Museum of Electricity following an independent study we commissioned earlier in the year, which looked at all SSE's visitors' and education resources. The research undertaken indicated that we would have to invest a considerable capital sum to convert the Museum to a modern educational facility, including making considerable improvements to the access arrangements for people with physical disabilities. The Museum is housed in a Victorian building that once housed a Power Station and as it is a listed building this imposes restrictions on alterations that can be made to the exterior of the building. On balance, therefore, we have reached the conclusion that a Museum is not the most effective way in which to educate people about the energy sector, and we want to explore alternative options for providing an education resource, either at Christchurch or at another site in the south of England. I hope this explanation helps to clarify the situation. Thanks, Holly. AND MY REPLY:No - you've just made it worse. This is just PR. For a start, the building itself is not Victorian but Edwardian, and is an exhibit in its own right, generating the power for the 1905 tram lines. And listed buildings are not expected to meet disability access requirements if it cannot be done without altering the building adversely. Those regulations have been in place many years, but only recently do they appear to be seen as a problem - a convenient problem. I took my late father there in a wheelchair and the curator offered to bring things down from upstairs to show him. The building does not need 'converting to a modern facility': its charm lies in its incredible setting, kts hands-on collections, and its presentation, which was just perfect. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could even begin to match what this museum has. And to talk about 'the energy sector' as its primary educational role is utter nonsense: it contains items of historic interest, THINGS, which we used to have, from different periods to show how they evolved, and lost of them, eg the vacuum cleaners and the clocking-in machine, had no power source at all except muscle power. You could make this pay, if that's what you must have despite your huge profits (greatly increased this year), by a reasonable admission charge. Most of the staff were enthusiastic volunteers. It has a shop, which earned money. Have you not thought what it will do to our town and region's tourist economy? You've let us all down so badly, betrayed the generous spirit of those who gifted items and those who rescued or restored items to go in it. Shame on you, shame. You are being pilloried in the local press: have you thought what this philistine move will do to your electricity sales? Do we have to start a campaign not to buy energy from your company? Crank
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12:40pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Hollers says...

fantasanta wrote:
i think we need to concede sometimes that some of the historic buildings are not viable for the disabled ,not to exclude them ,its just the practicality of modifying some of these places , its not just entrances and stairways but toilets and handrails and then facilities for the deaf and blind . once you go that route it has to be for everyone these big companies are not really owned by anyone with an interest in their history , if it doesnt make money ,they bin it and heres a victim by the look of it
I agree. I'm sure that in instances like this disabled people would not feel they were being discriminated against. New or redesigned buildings should obviously cater for the disabled but surely nobody expects old heritage buildings to be made 'disabled friendly' at huge cost, especially one that has free admission and as such restricted finances.
Another case of corporations making decisions due to the fear of being branded as un-PC.
[quote][p][bold]fantasanta[/bold] wrote: i think we need to concede sometimes that some of the historic buildings are not viable for the disabled ,not to exclude them ,its just the practicality of modifying some of these places , its not just entrances and stairways but toilets and handrails and then facilities for the deaf and blind . once you go that route it has to be for everyone these big companies are not really owned by anyone with an interest in their history , if it doesnt make money ,they bin it and heres a victim by the look of it[/p][/quote]I agree. I'm sure that in instances like this disabled people would not feel they were being discriminated against. New or redesigned buildings should obviously cater for the disabled but surely nobody expects old heritage buildings to be made 'disabled friendly' at huge cost, especially one that has free admission and as such restricted finances. Another case of corporations making decisions due to the fear of being branded as un-PC. Hollers
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2:05pm Wed 5 Dec 12

spooki says...

I don't recall seeing the museum on our tourists websites. They will gladly point you towards things to do in Bournemouth including Tower Park, the Blue Pool and Corfe Castle - none of which are in Bournemouth! Why didn't they advertise this place better? Perhaps one of the SSE bosses could give up some of their bonuses to help out? Ha ha ha ha
I don't recall seeing the museum on our tourists websites. They will gladly point you towards things to do in Bournemouth including Tower Park, the Blue Pool and Corfe Castle - none of which are in Bournemouth! Why didn't they advertise this place better? Perhaps one of the SSE bosses could give up some of their bonuses to help out? Ha ha ha ha spooki
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