Axed tree costs man record £125,000 (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Axed tree costs man record £125,000
8:16pm Friday 23rd November 2012 in News By Alex Winter
A POOLE auctioneer is facing the biggest fine of its kind ever seen after getting a family friend to cut down a protected tree in the middle of the night.
An uninterrupted view of Purbeck, Corfe Castle and Poole Harbour could be seen from Neil Davey's sun loungers after he arranged for tree surgeon Thomas McGuire to chop it down.
Davey, 51, of Inverclyde Road, Poole, had the tree felled while he was on honeymoon in Paris, with prosecutor Michael Tomlinson asking him during the trial if it was a wedding present for his wife.
He was fined £75,000 at Bournemouth Crown Court yesterday, with an additional £50,000 to make sure he doesn't ever profit from the increased value of his property.
Davey had denied causing or permitting the destruction of a tree, while McGuire denied wilful destruction of a tree.
But both were found guilty by a jury after a five-day hearing.
McGuire, 34, of Richmond Park Road, Bournemouth, was fined £5,500 for cutting down the pine.
Andy Dearing, enforcement officer for Poole council, said afterwards: “We believe it is the biggest fine in the country and it was a very robust sentence.
“We are clearly very satisfied and very grateful for the assistance of the police for their support and technical assistance in bringing Davey and McGuire before the courts.
“This was a protracted and very detailed investigation “The council hopes these convictions will bring to an end to acts of tree destruction and damage by a small minority to enhance their harbour views and consequently the value of their property by many thousands of pounds.”
Mr Dearing, a former Metropolitan Police officer, had told the court he followed a trail from the felled tree to Davey's garden and saw how clearing the tree had opened up a view of Poole Harbour from his hot tub and sun loungers.
“I'm completely satisfied that this was done to enhance the views as the prosecution said all along,” he said.
“I suspect it was a wedding present to Davey from McGuire, as the judge intimated.”
Mr Dearing said residents were outraged when they saw the felled tree in the Daily Echo after it was chopped down in June 2010.
He said: “People said it was outrageous after seeing it in the Echo and they wanted to see a prosecution but we wouldn't have done it without the police.”
Comments(72)
Mr MSP
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8:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12
peter flea bite
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8:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12
we are much closer here at Turley Moor.
he must have good eyesite if he can see that far¬¬
BIGTONE
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9:04pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Bob49 wrote:Bob49 says...
yikes !
I thought at first it was 12 grand
At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property.
Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.
8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.
Yep,good call.
boyerboy
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9:18pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Forest_Nymph
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9:20pm Fri 23 Nov 12
nbraeman
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9:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Bigbaddon
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10:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12
jinglebell
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10:31pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Bigbaddon
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10:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12
& yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t
Forest_Nymph
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11:01pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Bigbaddon wrote:I agree too - but why the hell wasn't the groom charged with cruelty? He's left the country!
Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ?
& yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t
Bob49
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11:03pm Fri 23 Nov 12
125 thousand I have
going once
going twice
upsidedown
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12:04am Sat 24 Nov 12
boyerboy wrote:So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund?
Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............
How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?
I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked!
This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'.
I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous.
I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc
Bob49
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12:34am Sat 24 Nov 12
It said previously that -
'The 55-year-old tree had been covered by a preservation order'
"How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?"
All of it, as fines go to the Treasury.
"I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles."
What an incredibly stupid remark. Perhaps you could tell us when else such an event has occured. And it was not a shambles, it was a very successful prosecution and an even more fitting punishment, at last.
"that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc”"
An even stupider comment.
southukOracle
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12:48am Sat 24 Nov 12
Meeshy
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1:19am Sat 24 Nov 12
Good on the judge though.
I only hope we all "see him next tuesday".
AS we throw dog **** up into his hot-tub.
All agreed here then. I like my clean air.
giveusthefacts
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1:20am Sat 24 Nov 12
hillman123
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3:38am Sat 24 Nov 12
Linguist
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5:17am Sat 24 Nov 12
nbraeman wrote:What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant?
Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.
Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life?
nbraeman
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7:58am Sat 24 Nov 12
Linguist wrote:Because harm an inanimate object and (in this case rightly) get your ar:e spanked but harm a living creature and you get away with it. Get it now?
nbraeman wrote:What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant?
Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.
Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life?
the parsons nose
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8:00am Sat 24 Nov 12
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
peter flea bite
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8:02am Sat 24 Nov 12
Whats your email address
i have doubts DO NOT IGNORE THIS REQUEST.
BournemouthMum
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8:24am Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died!
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
Reader Echo
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8:26am Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Well the parsons nose, I disagree with your sentiments entirely and think that harsh punishments such as this should be handed out with more regularity.
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
In fact I think that soft lefty types such as yourself is one of the reasons that this country is in such a mess right now.
Perhaps one day you may be a victim of crime and I hope you will still feel the same about soft sentencing then.
Browser123
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8:29am Sat 24 Nov 12
peter flea bite
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8:34am Sat 24 Nov 12
I logged off in the middle of the night.
spooki
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8:49am Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
the parsons nose
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8:58am Sat 24 Nov 12
BournemouthMum wrote:thank you ,i was going to say it but you hit the nail on the head ,jealousy is the problem with most people on here they jump on the bandwagon of every story ,dont even read the story in many cases , they make inappropriate and inaccurate statements and couldnt quote the whole story if you stopped them and asked
the parsons nose wrote:Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died!
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
'linguist' has an elephant down as a human !!! wikipedia doesnt back his claim on that one , i am sure some people dont even know what they have written
the parsons nose
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9:04am Sat 24 Nov 12
spooki wrote:i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it
the parsons nose wrote:As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
goatty
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9:20am Sat 24 Nov 12
Frank28
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9:47am Sat 24 Nov 12
BournemouthMum
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9:48am Sat 24 Nov 12
goatty wrote:....or a thug who beats someone to a pulp and leaves them for dead... or a drunk driver who kills an innocent pedestrian. I could go on but I think I've made my point.
£125,000 for 1 tree. Does anyone know how much Barrington Homes were fined for lots of trees on the peninsular?
pokesdown1
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9:50am Sat 24 Nov 12
GAHmusic
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9:53am Sat 24 Nov 12
mike in florida
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9:55am Sat 24 Nov 12
davey cut the tree down to protect his home from these strong winds which was about to blow the tree over and fall on his house ,therefore suing the council for 500,000
thinks about that scenario
Jetwasher
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10:38am Sat 24 Nov 12
Tom 'Boscombe' Jones
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10:55am Sat 24 Nov 12
Concrete Southbourne
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12:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Mr pedestal
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12:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12
You want to see destruction?
Upton heath.....
EGHH
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12:52pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Poole Council should now plant a fast growing tree in the same place! When this blokes business is just a memory the tree will still be standing as a monument to law over greed.
nermal
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1:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Telscombe Cliffy
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1:12pm Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose
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1:47pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway !
Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.
Bob49
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1:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12
I wonder what his howls of outrage would be were someone to have 'chopped down' his auction house because it got in the way.
As as to the anquished bleats about the amount this chap has to pay, what's the problem ? To paraphrase a comment above -
'It is only bits of paper for God's sake, no one died!'
Trevor Dykes
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1:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Reading what you wrote, Parson's Nose, rather than what anybody else might think, turned up the following:
spooki wrote:i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it
the parsons nose wrote:As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
"Hilter was a saint alongside you lot..."
ie. a comparison with Hitler.
According to the report, rather than what I might think, a 50000 chunk of the fine takes into account the likely increase in monetary value of the property brought resulting from an illegal act.
Just want to say....
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1:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12
the boxer
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2:03pm Sat 24 Nov 12
aaag” at me once ("LOT" number plate), presumably in an attempt to make himself feel enlarged? The ironic thing is that he sells off peoples cars and vans when they owe the VAT man. This sometimes can be because they have been ruined by someone not paying them. This is an unsavoury situation.
I am surprised he was not sent down. He should have been. It would be interesting to see how “big” he would feel in prison!
the parsons nose
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5:25pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Just want to say.... wrote:you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed
To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
Dont drop litter
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5:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Only a tree! Would you rather the entire country was covered in concrete?
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
The point is that too many people think they have a right to avoid the law and do as they please. Property developers and builders 'accidentally' destroy trees whenever they stand in the way of their progress. It's no better than pulling down rainforests.
I think he should have been given a prison term. That way his ability to earn money would be wiped out and he would be brought back down to earth with a massive bump. He would lose the house the view and the black range rover. The law is the law.
Dont drop litter
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5:43pm Sat 24 Nov 12
upsidedown wrote:All of the old pines in Bournemouth were planted here. They have been here for so long that people think that they are a part of the natural environment.
boyerboy wrote:So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund?
Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............
How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?
I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked!
This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'.
I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous.
I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc
Should we pull up all the palm trees in Cornwall? No.
pete woodley
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6:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12
sussexcherry
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6:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:You must enjoy coming on here just to be controversial. Your comments are ridiculous, does someone have to die in order for it to be an offence? If I attack your car (only inanimate metal) or cut a tree down in your garden at 2 in the morning, without asking your permission, I think you might call me a coward for not making myself known, and doing it in an underhand way. But then again, anarchy seems ok to you.
Just want to say.... wrote:you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed
To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
stevobath
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6:49pm Sat 24 Nov 12
muscliffman
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7:21pm Sat 24 Nov 12
One rule for......?
pete woodley
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9:10pm Sat 24 Nov 12
) hoping for compensation,for what.
the boxer
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9:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12
pete woodley wrote:You cannot compare the two! The Trees at Oakmead were not covered by a TPO because Bournemouth Planning Department were too busy “in meetings”, “off with stress” or “doing lunch” to get their act together and protect them. No excuses for that. Also the Trees at Oakmead were felled by their Contractors, under their instruction. NOT felling a protected Tree on someone else’s land with no regard for heath and safety, others property and feelings. I hope the owner was in court to see the “Pigs in suits, grunting”.
I am not condoning Neil,but as you say,when Oakmead,did it it soon got blown over and forgotten.There have been a lot more incidents the same.but never such a huge fine and costs.Now we have the get rich quick merchants(neighbours
) hoping for compensation,for what.
wellsfargo
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10:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12
1) The tree was on 3rd party land and not on the defendant's land. Trespass and criminal damage were also issues to be considered.
2) It was felled very quickly in a dangerous manner with little or no safety measures and certainly without regard to property or residents in the immediate vicinity
3) The defendants continued to lie and deny any involvement in the felony thus not entitling themselves for any credit in sentence for a guilty plea.
I suspect there will be an appeal.
On the matter of the defendant's business, he is a professional man and those who deal with him will have expectations of integrity and honesty in their dealings with his auction business. It is for them to decide whether or not the defendant still has those attributes following this week's proceedings
Inevitably it is a personal tragedy when anyone embarks on a course of action, without thinking of the longer term implications for themselves, their family and their business
Brightside2012
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11:26pm Sat 24 Nov 12
£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..
or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..
for one tree..
meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..
the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...
they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
Bob49
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12:19am Sun 25 Nov 12
I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form.
Letcommonsenseprevail
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7:37am Sun 25 Nov 12
the parsons nose
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8:38am Sun 25 Nov 12
Letcommonsenseprevaiwho cares i wasnt related to the tree and wont be losing any sleep over it ,hope he appeals it and wins
l wrote:
Great. This guy has increased the value of his property by about 250K by significantly improving the view from it, but is only fined 125K. He took a calculated risk and, it seems, won. Will be waking up with a massive smile methinks..........
Bob49
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11:21am Sun 25 Nov 12
you certainly do given the number of posts about this you have put up - rather upset you hasn't it ?
"i wasnt related to the tree"
I think this will come as quite a surprise to many on here given the intellectual content of your posts
"and wont be losing any sleep over it "
of course not, who else is having a lay in/sleep at 8'O'Clock on a Sunday morning rather than posting on here ?
peter flea bite
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11:27am Sun 25 Nov 12
You think your not related to a tree,
Log Gone Pal.
paul.p
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6:17pm Sun 25 Nov 12
Bob49 wrote:It might have been a ramble but it certainly throws light on some subjects that certainly don't get conversed very often.
Brightside 2012, eh ?
I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form.
The way things are going I'd best watch where I'm walking, I'd hate to be fined big time after stepping on the cracks in the pavement...
scrumpyjack
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7:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:ding ding ding ding - Godwins Law has been achieved.
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
scrumpyjack
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7:17pm Sun 25 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Err hello!
spooki wrote:i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs itthe parsons nose wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
"Hitler was a saint alongside you lot".
Nah no comparison there at all.
You ####.
scrumpyjack
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7:47pm Sun 25 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Ok you redeemed yourself with this comment.
Just want to say.... wrote: To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
reeve007
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9:41pm Sun 25 Nov 12
Now how much will Bournemouth Council be penalised when they remove the Imax so the Purbecks can be seen again -???
portia6
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3:24am Mon 26 Nov 12
contention and a good comparison!
Telscombe Cliffy
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10:34am Mon 26 Nov 12
the parsons nose wrote:Mmm, The Parson's Nose, chicken and a*** come immediately to mind.
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway !
Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.
stevobath
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2:25pm Mon 26 Nov 12
Brightside2012 wrote:WTF are you on about?
£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal..
£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..
or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..
for one tree..
meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..
the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...
they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
Talk about talking sh&&!
Mangiafuoco
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7:36pm Mon 26 Nov 12
stevobath wrote:Hilarious!! What is he on? I want some...
Brightside2012 wrote:WTF are you on about?
£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal..
£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..
or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..
for one tree..
meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..
the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...
they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
Talk about talking sh&&!
Bob49 says...
8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12
I thought at first it was 12 grand
At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property.
Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.