Axed tree costs man record £125,000

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A POOLE auctioneer is facing the biggest fine of its kind ever seen after getting a family friend to cut down a protected tree in the middle of the night.

An uninterrupted view of Purbeck, Corfe Castle and Poole Harbour could be seen from Neil Davey's sun loungers after he arranged for tree surgeon Thomas McGuire to chop it down.

Davey, 51, of Inverclyde Road, Poole, had the tree felled while he was on honeymoon in Paris, with prosecutor Michael Tomlinson asking him during the trial if it was a wedding present for his wife.

He was fined £75,000 at Bournemouth Crown Court yesterday, with an additional £50,000 to make sure he doesn't ever profit from the increased value of his property.

Davey had denied causing or permitting the destruction of a tree, while McGuire denied wilful destruction of a tree.

But both were found guilty by a jury after a five-day hearing.

McGuire, 34, of Richmond Park Road, Bournemouth, was fined £5,500 for cutting down the pine.

Andy Dearing, enforcement officer for Poole council, said afterwards: “We believe it is the biggest fine in the country and it was a very robust sentence.

“We are clearly very satisfied and very grateful for the assistance of the police for their support and technical assistance in bringing Davey and McGuire before the courts.

“This was a protracted and very detailed investigation “The council hopes these convictions will bring to an end to acts of tree destruction and damage by a small minority to enhance their harbour views and consequently the value of their property by many thousands of pounds.”

Mr Dearing, a former Metropolitan Police officer, had told the court he followed a trail from the felled tree to Davey's garden and saw how clearing the tree had opened up a view of Poole Harbour from his hot tub and sun loungers.

“I'm completely satisfied that this was done to enhance the views as the prosecution said all along,” he said.

“I suspect it was a wedding present to Davey from McGuire, as the judge intimated.”

Mr Dearing said residents were outraged when they saw the felled tree in the Daily Echo after it was chopped down in June 2010.

He said: “People said it was outrageous after seeing it in the Echo and they wanted to see a prosecution but we wouldn't have done it without the police.”

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8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

yikes !

I thought at first it was 12 grand

At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property.

Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.
yikes ! I thought at first it was 12 grand At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property. Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well. Bob49
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8:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Mr MSP says...

At last a fine that should be a deterrent
At last a fine that should be a deterrent Mr MSP
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8:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12

peter flea bite says...

Corfe castle is miles away 7.5 miles away from Parkstone.
we are much closer here at Turley Moor.
he must have good eyesite if he can see that far¬¬
Corfe castle is miles away 7.5 miles away from Parkstone. we are much closer here at Turley Moor. he must have good eyesite if he can see that far¬¬ peter flea bite
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9:04pm Fri 23 Nov 12

BIGTONE says...

Bob49 wrote:
yikes !

I thought at first it was 12 grand

At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property.

Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.
Bob49 says...
8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.


Yep,good call.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: yikes ! I thought at first it was 12 grand At last the courts have shown teeth. I'm sure the fine also reflects the value this will have increased his property. Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well.[/p][/quote]Bob49 says... 8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12 Now lets see that another tree is planted in it's place, as mature as possible as well. Yep,good call. BIGTONE
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9:18pm Fri 23 Nov 12

boyerboy says...

Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............
Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R............... boyerboy
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9:20pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Forest_Nymph says...

Well, all I can says is - I hope he thinks his hot tub was worth it. Pompous man!
Well, all I can says is - I hope he thinks his hot tub was worth it. Pompous man! Forest_Nymph
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9:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12

nbraeman says...

Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.
Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable. nbraeman
  • Score: 1

10:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bigbaddon says...

Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ?
Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ? Bigbaddon
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10:31pm Fri 23 Nov 12

jinglebell says...

I wish the judge had ordered him to pay to have for a fully grown replacement tree planted in the exact same spot.
I wish the judge had ordered him to pay to have for a fully grown replacement tree planted in the exact same spot. jinglebell
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10:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bigbaddon says...

Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ?

& yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t
Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ? & yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t Bigbaddon
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11:01pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Forest_Nymph says...

Bigbaddon wrote:
Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ?

& yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t
I agree too - but why the hell wasn't the groom charged with cruelty? He's left the country!
[quote][p][bold]Bigbaddon[/bold] wrote: Well that's a lot of money ... Where will the money go to ? Poole borough Christmas party ? & yes poor elephant .. They reckon the keeper has no money left so no point in a fine .. I would be happy just to see him get a slap on his trunk ... Glad his business is finished ..... Gready old c**t[/p][/quote]I agree too - but why the hell wasn't the groom charged with cruelty? He's left the country! Forest_Nymph
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11:03pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

Do I hear 125 thousand from the man in the wig

125 thousand I have

going once

going twice
Do I hear 125 thousand from the man in the wig 125 thousand I have going once going twice Bob49
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12:04am Sat 24 Nov 12

upsidedown says...

boyerboy wrote:
Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............
So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund?
How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?
I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked!
This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'.
I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous.
I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc
[quote][p][bold]boyerboy[/bold] wrote: Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............[/p][/quote]So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund? How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers? I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked! This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'. I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous. I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc upsidedown
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12:34am Sat 24 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

"I bet that it was not under a protection order"

It said previously that -

'The 55-year-old tree had been covered by a preservation order'



"How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?"

All of it, as fines go to the Treasury.


"I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles."

What an incredibly stupid remark. Perhaps you could tell us when else such an event has occured. And it was not a shambles, it was a very successful prosecution and an even more fitting punishment, at last.



"that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc”"

An even stupider comment.
"I bet that it was not under a protection order" It said previously that - 'The 55-year-old tree had been covered by a preservation order' "How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?" All of it, as fines go to the Treasury. "I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles." What an incredibly stupid remark. Perhaps you could tell us when else such an event has occured. And it was not a shambles, it was a very successful prosecution and an even more fitting punishment, at last. "that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc”" An even stupider comment. Bob49
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12:48am Sat 24 Nov 12

southukOracle says...

Good news. Davey's auction company are also bailiffs and I have heard from various people that they act like they can do whatever they want, like he seems to have done on this occasion. The fine fits and I'm so happy it hits him where it hurts the most, his pocket.
Good news. Davey's auction company are also bailiffs and I have heard from various people that they act like they can do whatever they want, like he seems to have done on this occasion. The fine fits and I'm so happy it hits him where it hurts the most, his pocket. southukOracle
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1:19am Sat 24 Nov 12

Meeshy says...

It doesn't replace the tree.
Good on the judge though.
I only hope we all "see him next tuesday".
AS we throw dog **** up into his hot-tub.
All agreed here then. I like my clean air.
It doesn't replace the tree. Good on the judge though. I only hope we all "see him next tuesday". AS we throw dog **** up into his hot-tub. All agreed here then. I like my clean air. Meeshy
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1:20am Sat 24 Nov 12

giveusthefacts says...

From what I have read, this tree was on the neighbours land. If I was the neighbour,I would plant a row of Leylandi where this tree was felled and let them grow to whatever height they want, Even though I hate them. It would put an end to his Hot tub view,
From what I have read, this tree was on the neighbours land. If I was the neighbour,I would plant a row of Leylandi where this tree was felled and let them grow to whatever height they want, Even though I hate them. It would put an end to his Hot tub view, giveusthefacts
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3:38am Sat 24 Nov 12

hillman123 says...

I am the owner of the neighbouring house and garden where this tree was illegally felled back in June 2010 However I now reside in Thailand, where I undertake research and teaching at Phetchaburi University. When I bought the house in 2000, there were three large martime pines in my garden, of which two were mysteriously felled in that year, this tree was the last to be destroyed. I am pleased the perpetrators of this selfish mindless act have been brought to justice" I am more than happy for you to contact me via e mail, if you want any further information. Thanks
I am the owner of the neighbouring house and garden where this tree was illegally felled back in June 2010 However I now reside in Thailand, where I undertake research and teaching at Phetchaburi University. When I bought the house in 2000, there were three large martime pines in my garden, of which two were mysteriously felled in that year, this tree was the last to be destroyed. I am pleased the perpetrators of this selfish mindless act have been brought to justice" I am more than happy for you to contact me via e mail, if you want any further information. Thanks hillman123
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5:17am Sat 24 Nov 12

Linguist says...

nbraeman wrote:
Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.
What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant?

Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life?
[quote][p][bold]nbraeman[/bold] wrote: Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.[/p][/quote]What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant? Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life? Linguist
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7:58am Sat 24 Nov 12

nbraeman says...

Linguist wrote:
nbraeman wrote:
Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.
What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant?

Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life?
Because harm an inanimate object and (in this case rightly) get your ar:e spanked but harm a living creature and you get away with it. Get it now?
[quote][p][bold]Linguist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nbraeman[/bold] wrote: Well done Poole council. But in other news a man gets a three year conditional discharge for mistreating an elephant. Just unbelievable.[/p][/quote]What is the relevance between chopping a tree down and mistreating an elephant? Are you a tree hugging animal lover who doesn't care for human life?[/p][/quote]Because harm an inanimate object and (in this case rightly) get your ar:e spanked but harm a living creature and you get away with it. Get it now? nbraeman
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8:00am Sat 24 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced . the parsons nose
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8:02am Sat 24 Nov 12

peter flea bite says...

3.38am
Whats your email address
i have doubts DO NOT IGNORE THIS REQUEST.
3.38am Whats your email address i have doubts DO NOT IGNORE THIS REQUEST. peter flea bite
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8:24am Sat 24 Nov 12

BournemouthMum says...

the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died!
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died! BournemouthMum
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8:26am Sat 24 Nov 12

Reader Echo says...

the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
Well the parsons nose, I disagree with your sentiments entirely and think that harsh punishments such as this should be handed out with more regularity.

In fact I think that soft lefty types such as yourself is one of the reasons that this country is in such a mess right now.

Perhaps one day you may be a victim of crime and I hope you will still feel the same about soft sentencing then.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]Well the parsons nose, I disagree with your sentiments entirely and think that harsh punishments such as this should be handed out with more regularity. In fact I think that soft lefty types such as yourself is one of the reasons that this country is in such a mess right now. Perhaps one day you may be a victim of crime and I hope you will still feel the same about soft sentencing then. Reader Echo
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8:29am Sat 24 Nov 12

Browser123 says...

Parsons nose: Cuttung down a tree doesn`t rate in your book, but as the article states, this large fine is to stop this man making £100 K + when he sells the property, therefore the fine is exactly right.. If he got away with it would send a signal to all in homes with a nice view, that is OK to destroy protected trees for profit. This tree was not even on his land hence the night felling. This man is greedy with no regard for a neighbours property or protected trees.
Parsons nose: Cuttung down a tree doesn`t rate in your book, but as the article states, this large fine is to stop this man making £100 K + when he sells the property, therefore the fine is exactly right.. If he got away with it would send a signal to all in homes with a nice view, that is OK to destroy protected trees for profit. This tree was not even on his land hence the night felling. This man is greedy with no regard for a neighbours property or protected trees. Browser123
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8:34am Sat 24 Nov 12

peter flea bite says...

I almost missed this echo story on my pc,


I logged off in the middle of the night.
I almost missed this echo story on my pc, I logged off in the middle of the night. peter flea bite
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8:49am Sat 24 Nov 12

spooki says...

the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.

It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair? spooki
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8:58am Sat 24 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died!
thank you ,i was going to say it but you hit the nail on the head ,jealousy is the problem with most people on here they jump on the bandwagon of every story ,dont even read the story in many cases , they make inappropriate and inaccurate statements and couldnt quote the whole story if you stopped them and asked
'linguist' has an elephant down as a human !!! wikipedia doesnt back his claim on that one , i am sure some people dont even know what they have written
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]Agree 100%. These comments show small minded jealousy and resentment because a wealthy man has been fined. People do far worse and get a slap on the wrist. The response to this story is pathetic. It was only a tree for God's sake, no one died![/p][/quote]thank you ,i was going to say it but you hit the nail on the head ,jealousy is the problem with most people on here they jump on the bandwagon of every story ,dont even read the story in many cases , they make inappropriate and inaccurate statements and couldnt quote the whole story if you stopped them and asked 'linguist' has an elephant down as a human !!! wikipedia doesnt back his claim on that one , i am sure some people dont even know what they have written the parsons nose
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9:04am Sat 24 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

spooki wrote:
the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.

It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?[/p][/quote]i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it the parsons nose
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9:20am Sat 24 Nov 12

goatty says...

£125,000 for 1 tree. Does anyone know how much Barrington Homes were fined for lots of trees on the peninsular?
£125,000 for 1 tree. Does anyone know how much Barrington Homes were fined for lots of trees on the peninsular? goatty
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9:47am Sat 24 Nov 12

Frank28 says...

Why didn't the Court order a replacement tree to be planted?
Why didn't the Court order a replacement tree to be planted? Frank28
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9:48am Sat 24 Nov 12

BournemouthMum says...

goatty wrote:
£125,000 for 1 tree. Does anyone know how much Barrington Homes were fined for lots of trees on the peninsular?
....or a thug who beats someone to a pulp and leaves them for dead... or a drunk driver who kills an innocent pedestrian. I could go on but I think I've made my point.
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: £125,000 for 1 tree. Does anyone know how much Barrington Homes were fined for lots of trees on the peninsular?[/p][/quote]....or a thug who beats someone to a pulp and leaves them for dead... or a drunk driver who kills an innocent pedestrian. I could go on but I think I've made my point. BournemouthMum
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9:50am Sat 24 Nov 12

pokesdown1 says...

Duck Pond anyone?
Duck Pond anyone? pokesdown1
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9:53am Sat 24 Nov 12

GAHmusic says...

I thought that mentioning Hitler in a blog was suposed to kill it?
I thought that mentioning Hitler in a blog was suposed to kill it? GAHmusic
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9:55am Sat 24 Nov 12

mike in florida says...

barrington were let off due to no evidence,good on them its a tree
davey cut the tree down to protect his home from these strong winds which was about to blow the tree over and fall on his house ,therefore suing the council for 500,000
thinks about that scenario
barrington were let off due to no evidence,good on them its a tree davey cut the tree down to protect his home from these strong winds which was about to blow the tree over and fall on his house ,therefore suing the council for 500,000 thinks about that scenario mike in florida
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10:38am Sat 24 Nov 12

Jetwasher says...

Can't see the problem at all it's only tree. Shame about the fine thou.
Can't see the problem at all it's only tree. Shame about the fine thou. Jetwasher
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10:55am Sat 24 Nov 12

Tom 'Boscombe' Jones says...

Its good to see environmental damage taken seriously by the courts. Hope this guy doesn't win an appeal like those other two developers who ringed those two trees earlier in the year.
Its good to see environmental damage taken seriously by the courts. Hope this guy doesn't win an appeal like those other two developers who ringed those two trees earlier in the year. Tom 'Boscombe' Jones
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12:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Concrete Southbourne says...

Call me cynical - but had someone wanted to cut the tree down to build a new house = no problem - the New Church Field in Tuckton saw the decimation of many beautiful old trees and one particularly rare and beautiful specimen - if they don't matter - why does this one - making easy money because he has it - I do have photos!
Call me cynical - but had someone wanted to cut the tree down to build a new house = no problem - the New Church Field in Tuckton saw the decimation of many beautiful old trees and one particularly rare and beautiful specimen - if they don't matter - why does this one - making easy money because he has it - I do have photos! Concrete Southbourne
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12:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Mr pedestal says...

Looking at where the tree was positioned, cutting it down was probably a good thing. If it had fallen over on it's own the house at the base of the hill could,ve been damaged and people injured or even killed. The cost would,ve been a lot more. The tree chopper possibly has saved others lives and saved the householder from a prison sentence.

You want to see destruction?

Upton heath.....
Looking at where the tree was positioned, cutting it down was probably a good thing. If it had fallen over on it's own the house at the base of the hill could,ve been damaged and people injured or even killed. The cost would,ve been a lot more. The tree chopper possibly has saved others lives and saved the householder from a prison sentence. You want to see destruction? Upton heath..... Mr pedestal
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12:52pm Sat 24 Nov 12

EGHH says...

Very pleased at the punishment. Its time to teach these rich barstewards that they can't get away with breaking the law. The Judge should have refused right of appeal to hammer the point home.

Poole Council should now plant a fast growing tree in the same place! When this blokes business is just a memory the tree will still be standing as a monument to law over greed.
Very pleased at the punishment. Its time to teach these rich barstewards that they can't get away with breaking the law. The Judge should have refused right of appeal to hammer the point home. Poole Council should now plant a fast growing tree in the same place! When this blokes business is just a memory the tree will still be standing as a monument to law over greed. EGHH
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1:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12

nermal says...

Delighted to see the outcome of this. I have had similar problems with a neighbour trying to get rid of protected trees on my land because of his view. If he had been polite and reasonable about it, as others have, we would have kept them at a mutually agreeable level, but since his idea of discussion was to cut it down to three feet high and throw poison over it, I'm afraid I lost all sympathy and have refused to have them trimmed since. So he loses. Sadly we didn't manage to get a criminal prosecution on him that time. Incidentally, the tree survived. It'll take a few years to get high enough to annoy him again but it's getting there.
Delighted to see the outcome of this. I have had similar problems with a neighbour trying to get rid of protected trees on my land because of his view. If he had been polite and reasonable about it, as others have, we would have kept them at a mutually agreeable level, but since his idea of discussion was to cut it down to three feet high and throw poison over it, I'm afraid I lost all sympathy and have refused to have them trimmed since. So he loses. Sadly we didn't manage to get a criminal prosecution on him that time. Incidentally, the tree survived. It'll take a few years to get high enough to annoy him again but it's getting there. nermal
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1:12pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.
Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos. Telscombe Cliffy
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1:47pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.
whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway !
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.[/p][/quote]whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway ! the parsons nose
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1:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

It's quite hilarious to see them all come creeping out into the sunlight, unable to quite grasp that the rest of society does see that there are other things in life besides money.

I wonder what his howls of outrage would be were someone to have 'chopped down' his auction house because it got in the way.

As as to the anquished bleats about the amount this chap has to pay, what's the problem ? To paraphrase a comment above -


'It is only bits of paper for God's sake, no one died!'
It's quite hilarious to see them all come creeping out into the sunlight, unable to quite grasp that the rest of society does see that there are other things in life besides money. I wonder what his howls of outrage would be were someone to have 'chopped down' his auction house because it got in the way. As as to the anquished bleats about the amount this chap has to pay, what's the problem ? To paraphrase a comment above - 'It is only bits of paper for God's sake, no one died!' Bob49
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1:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Trevor Dykes says...

the parsons nose wrote:
spooki wrote:
the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you.

It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it
Reading what you wrote, Parson's Nose, rather than what anybody else might think, turned up the following:

"Hilter was a saint alongside you lot..."

ie. a comparison with Hitler.

According to the report, rather than what I might think, a 50000 chunk of the fine takes into account the likely increase in monetary value of the property brought resulting from an illegal act.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?[/p][/quote]i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it[/p][/quote]Reading what you wrote, Parson's Nose, rather than what anybody else might think, turned up the following: "Hilter was a saint alongside you lot..." ie. a comparison with Hitler. According to the report, rather than what I might think, a 50000 chunk of the fine takes into account the likely increase in monetary value of the property brought resulting from an illegal act. Trevor Dykes
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1:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Just want to say.... says...

To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!! Just want to say....
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2:03pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the boxer says...

I am not in the least surprised. I had Mr Davey drive his “jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaag” at me once ("LOT" number plate), presumably in an attempt to make himself feel enlarged? The ironic thing is that he sells off peoples cars and vans when they owe the VAT man. This sometimes can be because they have been ruined by someone not paying them. This is an unsavoury situation.

I am surprised he was not sent down. He should have been. It would be interesting to see how “big” he would feel in prison!
I am not in the least surprised. I had Mr Davey drive his “jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaag” at me once ("LOT" number plate), presumably in an attempt to make himself feel enlarged? The ironic thing is that he sells off peoples cars and vans when they owe the VAT man. This sometimes can be because they have been ruined by someone not paying them. This is an unsavoury situation. I am surprised he was not sent down. He should have been. It would be interesting to see how “big” he would feel in prison! the boxer
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5:25pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

Just want to say.... wrote:
To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed
i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
[quote][p][bold]Just want to say....[/bold] wrote: To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!![/p][/quote]you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ? the parsons nose
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5:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dont drop litter says...

the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot .
compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
Only a tree! Would you rather the entire country was covered in concrete?
The point is that too many people think they have a right to avoid the law and do as they please. Property developers and builders 'accidentally' destroy trees whenever they stand in the way of their progress. It's no better than pulling down rainforests.
I think he should have been given a prison term. That way his ability to earn money would be wiped out and he would be brought back down to earth with a massive bump. He would lose the house the view and the black range rover. The law is the law.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]Only a tree! Would you rather the entire country was covered in concrete? The point is that too many people think they have a right to avoid the law and do as they please. Property developers and builders 'accidentally' destroy trees whenever they stand in the way of their progress. It's no better than pulling down rainforests. I think he should have been given a prison term. That way his ability to earn money would be wiped out and he would be brought back down to earth with a massive bump. He would lose the house the view and the black range rover. The law is the law. Dont drop litter
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5:43pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dont drop litter says...

upsidedown wrote:
boyerboy wrote:
Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............
So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund?
How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers?
I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked!
This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'.
I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous.
I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc
All of the old pines in Bournemouth were planted here. They have been here for so long that people think that they are a part of the natural environment.
Should we pull up all the palm trees in Cornwall? No.
[quote][p][bold]upsidedown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boyerboy[/bold] wrote: Well done Poole council, glad the right result was the outcome, just hope his auction house now loses the HMRC and Police work they have regularly undertaken T I M B E R...............[/p][/quote]So, may I ask how much has this court case has actually cost us tax payers to fund? How much of this fine is going to go back to the tax payers? I'm a nature lover myself, so am aware this was a 'none native tree' and at the time of 'felling' I bet that it was not under a protection order as many of these trees are overlooked! This is another case of 'six of one, half a dozen of another'. I agree that our nature should be protected, however a 2 year battle at the cost of the tax payer over a none native, and possibly none protected tree, is in my eyes ridiculous. I shall look forward to the increase in my council tax bill next, in order to pay for this shambles. Whilst I'm sure that' the powers that be' will reap the benefits of this fine with pay rises, bonuses, etc[/p][/quote]All of the old pines in Bournemouth were planted here. They have been here for so long that people think that they are a part of the natural environment. Should we pull up all the palm trees in Cornwall? No. Dont drop litter
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6:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12

pete woodley says...

There are a lot worse people than Neil Davey,who get away with a lot more.He obviously did not know the right people.
There are a lot worse people than Neil Davey,who get away with a lot more.He obviously did not know the right people. pete woodley
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6:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

sussexcherry says...

the parsons nose wrote:
Just want to say.... wrote:
To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed
i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
You must enjoy coming on here just to be controversial. Your comments are ridiculous, does someone have to die in order for it to be an offence? If I attack your car (only inanimate metal) or cut a tree down in your garden at 2 in the morning, without asking your permission, I think you might call me a coward for not making myself known, and doing it in an underhand way. But then again, anarchy seems ok to you.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just want to say....[/bold] wrote: To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!![/p][/quote]you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?[/p][/quote]You must enjoy coming on here just to be controversial. Your comments are ridiculous, does someone have to die in order for it to be an offence? If I attack your car (only inanimate metal) or cut a tree down in your garden at 2 in the morning, without asking your permission, I think you might call me a coward for not making myself known, and doing it in an underhand way. But then again, anarchy seems ok to you. sussexcherry
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6:49pm Sat 24 Nov 12

stevobath says...

How daft.I wouldve got someone to pour loads of weedkiller or something to kill the tree off .Might have taken longer but wouldve made it hard to prove who was guilty.Maybe Im being too simplistic but he was always going to get nicked carrying it out in the way he did!
How daft.I wouldve got someone to pour loads of weedkiller or something to kill the tree off .Might have taken longer but wouldve made it hard to prove who was guilty.Maybe Im being too simplistic but he was always going to get nicked carrying it out in the way he did! stevobath
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7:21pm Sat 24 Nov 12

muscliffman says...

Quite a result for good sense. However I cannot avoid recalling that when not just one but a number of protected mature trees were felled/fatally damaged in Bournemouth by a 'public-sector' college/school there was a bit of a fuss but no-one was ever called to legally account.
One rule for......?
Quite a result for good sense. However I cannot avoid recalling that when not just one but a number of protected mature trees were felled/fatally damaged in Bournemouth by a 'public-sector' college/school there was a bit of a fuss but no-one was ever called to legally account. One rule for......? muscliffman
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9:10pm Sat 24 Nov 12

pete woodley says...

I am not condoning Neil,but as you say,when Oakmead,did it it soon got blown over and forgotten.There have been a lot more incidents the same.but never such a huge fine and costs.Now we have the get rich quick merchants(neighbours
) hoping for compensation,for what.
I am not condoning Neil,but as you say,when Oakmead,did it it soon got blown over and forgotten.There have been a lot more incidents the same.but never such a huge fine and costs.Now we have the get rich quick merchants(neighbours ) hoping for compensation,for what. pete woodley
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9:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the boxer says...

pete woodley wrote:
I am not condoning Neil,but as you say,when Oakmead,did it it soon got blown over and forgotten.There have been a lot more incidents the same.but never such a huge fine and costs.Now we have the get rich quick merchants(neighbours

) hoping for compensation,for what.
You cannot compare the two! The Trees at Oakmead were not covered by a TPO because Bournemouth Planning Department were too busy “in meetings”, “off with stress” or “doing lunch” to get their act together and protect them. No excuses for that. Also the Trees at Oakmead were felled by their Contractors, under their instruction. NOT felling a protected Tree on someone else’s land with no regard for heath and safety, others property and feelings. I hope the owner was in court to see the “Pigs in suits, grunting”.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: I am not condoning Neil,but as you say,when Oakmead,did it it soon got blown over and forgotten.There have been a lot more incidents the same.but never such a huge fine and costs.Now we have the get rich quick merchants(neighbours ) hoping for compensation,for what.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare the two! The Trees at Oakmead were not covered by a TPO because Bournemouth Planning Department were too busy “in meetings”, “off with stress” or “doing lunch” to get their act together and protect them. No excuses for that. Also the Trees at Oakmead were felled by their Contractors, under their instruction. NOT felling a protected Tree on someone else’s land with no regard for heath and safety, others property and feelings. I hope the owner was in court to see the “Pigs in suits, grunting”. the boxer
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10:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12

wellsfargo says...

I suspect the fine was of the magnitude it was, for the following reasons:

1) The tree was on 3rd party land and not on the defendant's land. Trespass and criminal damage were also issues to be considered.

2) It was felled very quickly in a dangerous manner with little or no safety measures and certainly without regard to property or residents in the immediate vicinity

3) The defendants continued to lie and deny any involvement in the felony thus not entitling themselves for any credit in sentence for a guilty plea.

I suspect there will be an appeal.

On the matter of the defendant's business, he is a professional man and those who deal with him will have expectations of integrity and honesty in their dealings with his auction business. It is for them to decide whether or not the defendant still has those attributes following this week's proceedings

Inevitably it is a personal tragedy when anyone embarks on a course of action, without thinking of the longer term implications for themselves, their family and their business
I suspect the fine was of the magnitude it was, for the following reasons: 1) The tree was on 3rd party land and not on the defendant's land. Trespass and criminal damage were also issues to be considered. 2) It was felled very quickly in a dangerous manner with little or no safety measures and certainly without regard to property or residents in the immediate vicinity 3) The defendants continued to lie and deny any involvement in the felony thus not entitling themselves for any credit in sentence for a guilty plea. I suspect there will be an appeal. On the matter of the defendant's business, he is a professional man and those who deal with him will have expectations of integrity and honesty in their dealings with his auction business. It is for them to decide whether or not the defendant still has those attributes following this week's proceedings Inevitably it is a personal tragedy when anyone embarks on a course of action, without thinking of the longer term implications for themselves, their family and their business wellsfargo
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11:26pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Brightside2012 says...

£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal..

£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..

or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..

for one tree..

meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..

the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...

they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal.. £125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset.. or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year.. for one tree.. meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency.. the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act... they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!! Brightside2012
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12:19am Sun 25 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

Brightside 2012, eh ?


I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form.
Brightside 2012, eh ? I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form. Bob49
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7:37am Sun 25 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Great. This guy has increased the value of his property by about 250K by significantly improving the view from it, but is only fined 125K. He took a calculated risk and, it seems, won. Will be waking up with a massive smile methinks..........
Great. This guy has increased the value of his property by about 250K by significantly improving the view from it, but is only fined 125K. He took a calculated risk and, it seems, won. Will be waking up with a massive smile methinks.......... Letcommonsenseprevail
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8:38am Sun 25 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Great. This guy has increased the value of his property by about 250K by significantly improving the view from it, but is only fined 125K. He took a calculated risk and, it seems, won. Will be waking up with a massive smile methinks..........
who cares i wasnt related to the tree and wont be losing any sleep over it ,hope he appeals it and wins
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Great. This guy has increased the value of his property by about 250K by significantly improving the view from it, but is only fined 125K. He took a calculated risk and, it seems, won. Will be waking up with a massive smile methinks..........[/p][/quote]who cares i wasnt related to the tree and wont be losing any sleep over it ,hope he appeals it and wins the parsons nose
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11:21am Sun 25 Nov 12

Bob49 says...

"who cares"

you certainly do given the number of posts about this you have put up - rather upset you hasn't it ?




"i wasnt related to the tree"

I think this will come as quite a surprise to many on here given the intellectual content of your posts


"and wont be losing any sleep over it "


of course not, who else is having a lay in/sleep at 8'O'Clock on a Sunday morning rather than posting on here ?
"who cares" you certainly do given the number of posts about this you have put up - rather upset you hasn't it ? "i wasnt related to the tree" I think this will come as quite a surprise to many on here given the intellectual content of your posts "and wont be losing any sleep over it " of course not, who else is having a lay in/sleep at 8'O'Clock on a Sunday morning rather than posting on here ? Bob49
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11:27am Sun 25 Nov 12

peter flea bite says...

Just because we all refer to you as Plank Head

You think your not related to a tree,

Log Gone Pal.
Just because we all refer to you as Plank Head You think your not related to a tree, Log Gone Pal. peter flea bite
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6:17pm Sun 25 Nov 12

paul.p says...

Bob49 wrote:
Brightside 2012, eh ?


I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form.
It might have been a ramble but it certainly throws light on some subjects that certainly don't get conversed very often.


The way things are going I'd best watch where I'm walking, I'd hate to be fined big time after stepping on the cracks in the pavement...
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Brightside 2012, eh ? I'm not sure what your confused ramble is about, but it certainly doesn't smack of being 'bright' in any shape or form.[/p][/quote]It might have been a ramble but it certainly throws light on some subjects that certainly don't get conversed very often. The way things are going I'd best watch where I'm walking, I'd hate to be fined big time after stepping on the cracks in the pavement... paul.p
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7:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12

scrumpyjack says...

the parsons nose wrote:
what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
ding ding ding ding - Godwins Law has been achieved.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]ding ding ding ding - Godwins Law has been achieved. scrumpyjack
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7:17pm Sun 25 Nov 12

scrumpyjack says...

the parsons nose wrote:
spooki wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .
As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?
i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it
Err hello!

"Hitler was a saint alongside you lot".

Nah no comparison there at all.

You ####.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: what a nasty crowd of people on here , the guy got a £125000 fine ! it was only a tree , explain how it affects any one you ?. would you be happier if they pulled out his fingernails , put him on a rack and made him do a million hours community service ? Hilter was a saint alongside you lot . compared to other crimes,cutting down a tree doesnt really rate even slightly in my book . thats a punishment that is disproportionate, i am sure he will appeal it and get it reduced .[/p][/quote]As a regular here, I don't really like being compared to Hitler thank you. It does seem an extreme fine but it goes to show people that you can't go round doing whatever you like and screw everyone else. However, people get off much lighter when they beat someone up or run someone over in their car. Is that fair?[/p][/quote]i didnt compare anyone to Hitler ,read what i wrote rather than what you think i wrote but you end by making exactly the same point as i did , i said the fine was disproportionate and your last line absolutely backs it[/p][/quote]Err hello! "Hitler was a saint alongside you lot". Nah no comparison there at all. You ####. scrumpyjack
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7:47pm Sun 25 Nov 12

scrumpyjack says...

the parsons nose wrote:
Just want to say.... wrote: To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!!
you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?
Ok you redeemed yourself with this comment.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just want to say....[/bold] wrote: To those of you who think this sentence is a bit 'extreme' then picture this...imagine you are in bed at 2o'clock in the morning, when you get woken up by the sound of a chainsaw. All of a sudden there is an almighty bang and crash and your entire house shakes. You look out your window, only you cant see anything as the huge 50ft tree that was in your next door neighbours garden is now outside your window having just been cut down by some scum bag. These men showed a complete disregard for human life when they did this!! I find this sentence completly fair and i would love to hear an apology from these cowards. My husband and I could have been killed that night all for the sake of a better view......fair sentence....I think so!!! Would have made then replace the tree aswel!!![/p][/quote]you didnt actually die then ,Mrs drama queen and i assume it was quickly removed i dont see either what makes them cowards ? did your view to the purbecks improve as well ?[/p][/quote]Ok you redeemed yourself with this comment. scrumpyjack
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9:41pm Sun 25 Nov 12

reeve007 says...

£125 grand fine to improve the Purbeck View for removing one tree. well done !!

Now how much will Bournemouth Council be penalised when they remove the Imax so the Purbecks can be seen again -???
£125 grand fine to improve the Purbeck View for removing one tree. well done !! Now how much will Bournemouth Council be penalised when they remove the Imax so the Purbecks can be seen again -??? reeve007
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3:24am Mon 26 Nov 12

portia6 says...

Oh well said, the Imax such a bone of
contention and a good comparison!
Oh well said, the Imax such a bone of contention and a good comparison! portia6
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10:34am Mon 26 Nov 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

the parsons nose wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.
whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway !
Mmm, The Parson's Nose, chicken and a*** come immediately to mind.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Correct justice for once. What horrified me was all the blatant lieing by the two defendents. Why not just put thier hands up and take it (and possibly a lower fine), instead of destroying their own reputations as well? Crazy egos.[/p][/quote]whats all this correct justice nonsense ,? its just a tree , how much is a life worth ? nothing in Bournemouth, is the message . whats your interest in a pine tree youve never even seen , you would never know if it had been felled or not except for a newspaper report , oh well climb aboard the bandwagon anyway ![/p][/quote]Mmm, The Parson's Nose, chicken and a*** come immediately to mind. Telscombe Cliffy
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2:25pm Mon 26 Nov 12

stevobath says...

Brightside2012 wrote:
£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal..

£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..

or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..

for one tree..

meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..

the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...

they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
WTF are you on about?

Talk about talking sh&&!
[quote][p][bold]Brightside2012[/bold] wrote: £750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal.. £125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset.. or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year.. for one tree.. meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency.. the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act... they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!![/p][/quote]WTF are you on about? Talk about talking sh&&! stevobath
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7:36pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Mangiafuoco says...

stevobath wrote:
Brightside2012 wrote:
£750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal..

£125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset..

or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year..

for one tree..

meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency..

the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act...

they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!!
WTF are you on about?

Talk about talking sh&&!
Hilarious!! What is he on? I want some...
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightside2012[/bold] wrote: £750 quid would have been more appropriate.. the judgements of poole council are absurb and obviously illegal.. £125,000 in house clearance is equivalent to 1000 car boot sale stall holders takings.. which is an entire month of car boot sales in Dorset.. or the council tax of 125 BAND A properties for 1 year.. for one tree.. meanwhile £125,000 = the council spending in housing benefits on 25 claimants for one year.. who could have been woken up back to consciousness and revocationalised back to good working order.. when instead they are turned into anxious blobs in the name of criminal justice..and economic dependency.. the whole council and all those involved in the judicial processes in the area should be dismissed and have their properties taken off them under the proceeds of crime act... they seem like incompetents who believe everyone has to agree with them or else!!![/p][/quote]WTF are you on about? Talk about talking sh&&![/p][/quote]Hilarious!! What is he on? I want some... Mangiafuoco
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