Send me back to jail, pleads criminal who can't cope with life outside

Send me back to jail, pleads criminal who can't cope with life outside

Send me back to jail, pleads criminal who can't cope with life outside

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A CAREER criminal who has spent two thirds of his life behind bars is back in prison after asking a judge to lock him up again.

Bournemouth Crown Court heard how bungling burglar Nicholas Birch, 45, who has amassed 142 offences since 1984 and appeared in court 35 times, has become so institutionalised he cannot cope with the outside world.

Birch, pictured right, admitted two dwelling house burglaries and asked for another nine similar offences to be taken into consideration by Judge Samuel Wiggs.

The court was told how Birch, one of Dorset’s most prolific offenders, had broken into a house at Hurn Road, Christchurch, on October 29 this year and committed another burglary at Grove Road, Bournemouth, just two days later.

His valuable haul included a £1,000 emerald and diamond ring, other jewellery, a computer and camera. Birch was caught after being disturbed at the first property and jumping from an upstairs window.

Forensic investigators linked him to the scene and stolen property was recovered from his grey Ford Escort parked near the Hurn Road address. After his arrest, Birch, of no fixed abode, assisted police in solving another nine crimes, including a burglary dating back to 2003.

Defending, Robert Griffiths said: “With a record like that there is little I can say; it was drink, drugs, a fall-out with his girlfriend and he found himself depressed. He didn’t even need the money; he was working as a forklift driver at the time. He has spent about 30 years in prison – two thirds of his life – and he wants to go back there. He is somewhat institutionalised.”

Mr Griffiths added: “Prison won’t work – the only thing it will do is keep him out of circulation but he wants to say sorry to his victims.”

Sentencing Birch to three years in jail, Judge Wiggs told him: “You know very well what has to happen.”

Speaking after the case, DC Symon Clarke from the Bournemouth burglary squad said: “The sentence reflects the seriousness of these offences but also shows that sentences will be reduced if offenders, like Birch, assist us in clearing up crimes.”

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8:49am Mon 12 Nov 12

rudolph_hucker says...

Speaking after the case, DC Symon Clarke from the Bournemouth burglary squad said: “The sentence reflects the seriousness of these offences but also shows that sentences will be reduced if offenders, like Birch, assist us in clearing up crimes.”
So the crook admits to things they probably haven't even done for a reduced sentence and your unsolved crime is reduced?
No wonder we are always being told how crime is coming down.
Introduce hard labour to prisons. They should be worked harder than any of us on the outside!
Then let's see how many lags are banging on the gates wanting their nice cosy cell back, all their bills paid for.
Speaking after the case, DC Symon Clarke from the Bournemouth burglary squad said: “The sentence reflects the seriousness of these offences but also shows that sentences will be reduced if offenders, like Birch, assist us in clearing up crimes.” So the crook admits to things they probably haven't even done for a reduced sentence and your unsolved crime is reduced? No wonder we are always being told how crime is coming down. Introduce hard labour to prisons. They should be worked harder than any of us on the outside! Then let's see how many lags are banging on the gates wanting their nice cosy cell back, all their bills paid for. rudolph_hucker
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8:53am Mon 12 Nov 12

Holes Bay Curve says...

Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs).

Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?
Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care? Holes Bay Curve
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8:54am Mon 12 Nov 12

Forest_Nymph says...

What a sorry person he must be if he finds living in jail easier than outside here in real life ....... still, I daresay he gets 3 meals a day, no worries about paying his bills, rent, shopping etc.

Easy life for him then :o/
What a sorry person he must be if he finds living in jail easier than outside here in real life ....... still, I daresay he gets 3 meals a day, no worries about paying his bills, rent, shopping etc. Easy life for him then :o/ Forest_Nymph
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8:58am Mon 12 Nov 12

Cherry Bear says...

Absolute joke, unfortunately there are numerous people like this piece of sh*t that will be looking to get locked up for winter months.
Absolute joke, unfortunately there are numerous people like this piece of sh*t that will be looking to get locked up for winter months. Cherry Bear
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9:10am Mon 12 Nov 12

slymo cherrie says...

i don't suppose hes the only one who expects me to pay his rates

Hes not the first one to prefer prison to paying his rates
i don't suppose hes the only one who expects me to pay his rates Hes not the first one to prefer prison to paying his rates slymo cherrie
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9:13am Mon 12 Nov 12

live-and-let-live says...

we all find it hard too, but we have to carry on.
we all find it hard too, but we have to carry on. live-and-let-live
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9:15am Mon 12 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

Holes Bay Curve wrote:
Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?
shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem .
prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ?
[quote][p][bold]Holes Bay Curve[/bold] wrote: Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?[/p][/quote]shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem . prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ? the parsons nose
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9:30am Mon 12 Nov 12

LordLilliput says...

Mr Griffiths added: “Prison won’t work – the only thing it will do is keep him out of circulation..”

I thought the purpose of locking people like him away from society was exactly that.
Mr Griffiths added: “Prison won’t work – the only thing it will do is keep him out of circulation..” I thought the purpose of locking people like him away from society was exactly that. LordLilliput
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10:37am Mon 12 Nov 12

buickboy says...

the parsons nose wrote:
Holes Bay Curve wrote: Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?
shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem . prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ?
It's because of bleeding hearts like you that honets working people have so many wastes of space like him to support.
Him and all his kind should be put down, I'd do it for nothing
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holes Bay Curve[/bold] wrote: Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?[/p][/quote]shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem . prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ?[/p][/quote]It's because of bleeding hearts like you that honets working people have so many wastes of space like him to support. Him and all his kind should be put down, I'd do it for nothing buickboy
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10:39am Mon 12 Nov 12

buickboy says...

Correction- 'honest'
Correction- 'honest' buickboy
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11:53am Mon 12 Nov 12

stevobath says...

I find it hard to believe hes spent 30 years of his life in prisons.I'd love to actually see what sentences hes done.I doubt hes done 30 years in 'The Big House'?
He might have amassed 30 yrs in sentences but probably done no more than 15/18 years with parole taken off.
I find it hard to believe hes spent 30 years of his life in prisons.I'd love to actually see what sentences hes done.I doubt hes done 30 years in 'The Big House'? He might have amassed 30 yrs in sentences but probably done no more than 15/18 years with parole taken off. stevobath
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1:45pm Mon 12 Nov 12

bogtrotter says...

This is ridiculous. Just shows what life must be like inside now. What ever happened to the term 'hard-time', assume that no longer exists. I always thought prison was a punishment not a reward.
This is ridiculous. Just shows what life must be like inside now. What ever happened to the term 'hard-time', assume that no longer exists. I always thought prison was a punishment not a reward. bogtrotter
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2:04pm Mon 12 Nov 12

spooki says...

"it was drink, drugs, a fall-out with his girlfriend and he found himself depressed." aw bless him. I've suffered with depression for the last eighteen years. I don't smoke, drink or take 'recreational' drugs and I'm single. Should I go out breaking into folks house and taking their stuff? NO!!! Grow up and get over it. Other people have to deal with whatever real life throws at them, why shouldn't you?
"it was drink, drugs, a fall-out with his girlfriend and he found himself depressed." aw bless him. I've suffered with depression for the last eighteen years. I don't smoke, drink or take 'recreational' drugs and I'm single. Should I go out breaking into folks house and taking their stuff? NO!!! Grow up and get over it. Other people have to deal with whatever real life throws at them, why shouldn't you? spooki
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3:29pm Mon 12 Nov 12

HRH of Boscombe says...

It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered.
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However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable.
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If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high.
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He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in.
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Try communism if you like!
It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered. . However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable. . If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high. . He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in. . Try communism if you like! HRH of Boscombe
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4:35pm Mon 12 Nov 12

l'anglais says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered.
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However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable.
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If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high.
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He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in.
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Try communism if you like!
Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today.
Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice.
Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society.
HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain!
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered. . However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable. . If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high. . He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in. . Try communism if you like![/p][/quote]Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today. Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice. Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society. HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain! l'anglais
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6:24pm Mon 12 Nov 12

mattkuk says...

Prison wont work..bullet in the head will
Prison wont work..bullet in the head will mattkuk
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8:02pm Mon 12 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway .
the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about .
i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ? the parsons nose
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8:14pm Mon 12 Nov 12

tryinghard1234 says...

the parsons nose wrote:
Holes Bay Curve wrote: Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?
shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem . prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ?
how ridiculous. The good honest hardworking people in this country are being screwed into the ground. Not by the Government but because people have this softy softy attitude. Actually, I dont want to support him in prison, I want to keep my money so that I can make sure my kids have a good start in life. I am fully behind supporting the needy and I have the utmost respect for the those with disabilities ( of whom many overcome these and also work - fantastic people!!) but I do not want to support these kind of people. Puttng it simply. I go to work, while I am i at work, I have to insure my home against burgulary, I have to pay tax for the police to catch criminals. With the money I earn, I then have to support those who break in to my home and get caught. So lets stop all this compassion nonsence for these kind of people and spend the money on the needy. Can you imagine the care system for the ill, elderly and mentally ill we would have if we didnt fund prisons!!!
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holes Bay Curve[/bold] wrote: Well Mr Birch, my mother left school at 14 to work for the Post Office during WW2, she then worked in nursing (since 1948) all her life and paid her taxes. Having now spent her saving on nursing care for herself, she now has to sell her home to cover these nursing costs (as the state she has paid into will not cover the costs). Why should we - the tax payers allow you to live in 'luxury' in prison at a cost that exceeds my mother nursing care?[/p][/quote]shouldnt you be blaming the government for your mothers dilema ,she has been lied to and conned by the people at the top and they are stealing from your mum as surely as this guy is commiting crime but at least he accepts hes got a problem . prison cannot be a luxury , a cop out maybe and a bit of a sorry situation but you cant channel your anger through people supported by the state , do you apply the same logic to mental patients ,drug and alcohol dependants ? st Annes hospital in canford cliffs is full of them ,there will always be a percentage who cant cope or in a rut they cant get out of .with your mothers problem shouldnt you have learned something about compassion ?[/p][/quote]how ridiculous. The good honest hardworking people in this country are being screwed into the ground. Not by the Government but because people have this softy softy attitude. Actually, I dont want to support him in prison, I want to keep my money so that I can make sure my kids have a good start in life. I am fully behind supporting the needy and I have the utmost respect for the those with disabilities ( of whom many overcome these and also work - fantastic people!!) but I do not want to support these kind of people. Puttng it simply. I go to work, while I am i at work, I have to insure my home against burgulary, I have to pay tax for the police to catch criminals. With the money I earn, I then have to support those who break in to my home and get caught. So lets stop all this compassion nonsence for these kind of people and spend the money on the needy. Can you imagine the care system for the ill, elderly and mentally ill we would have if we didnt fund prisons!!! tryinghard1234
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8:17pm Mon 12 Nov 12

LordLilliput says...

the parsons nose wrote:
how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway .
the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about .
i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house. LordLilliput
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8:34pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Wageslave says...

Just another parasite
Just another parasite Wageslave
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8:42pm Mon 12 Nov 12

rudolph_hucker says...

proof if any were needed that our jails are a soft touch and act as no deterrent
proof if any were needed that our jails are a soft touch and act as no deterrent rudolph_hucker
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9:36pm Mon 12 Nov 12

mmmmmmm says...

Proof also that community service is another wasted resource.
He could be helping the needy,gaining some self worth at the same time.
Proof also that community service is another wasted resource. He could be helping the needy,gaining some self worth at the same time. mmmmmmm
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10:01pm Mon 12 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be
its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another
i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong
okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit
[quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.[/p][/quote]thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit the parsons nose
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10:26pm Mon 12 Nov 12

LordLilliput says...

the parsons nose wrote:
LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be
its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another
i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong
okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit
I think you're confusing compassion with common sense. You talk about his 'raw deal' as if the world has done him an injustice. It is HE who is the perpetrator of injustice by making a conscious decision to ruin other people's lives by breaking into their houses, scaring the living daylights out of them and stealing their possessions. Some people do not ever get over that.

Your attitude to these people, some of which have undoubtably experienced equally hard knocks during their lives, is despicable and contemptuous. Other than to make sweeping statements that those who dislike this kind of individual and all that he has done to society probably indulge themselves in a 'cosy existence' - which is colloquial nonsense - I really do not see what point you are attempting to make.
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.[/p][/quote]thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit[/p][/quote]I think you're confusing compassion with common sense. You talk about his 'raw deal' as if the world has done him an injustice. It is HE who is the perpetrator of injustice by making a conscious decision to ruin other people's lives by breaking into their houses, scaring the living daylights out of them and stealing their possessions. Some people do not ever get over that. Your attitude to these people, some of which have undoubtably experienced equally hard knocks during their lives, is despicable and contemptuous. Other than to make sweeping statements that those who dislike this kind of individual and all that he has done to society probably indulge themselves in a 'cosy existence' - which is colloquial nonsense - I really do not see what point you are attempting to make. LordLilliput
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10:51pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Kiki1973 says...

Chain gang: If he wants to be there, fine,the least he can do is to give something back to the community that's supporting him.
Chain gang: If he wants to be there, fine,the least he can do is to give something back to the community that's supporting him. Kiki1973
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10:51pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Kiki1973 says...

Chain gang: If he wants to be there, fine,the least he can do is to give something back to the community that's supporting him.
Chain gang: If he wants to be there, fine,the least he can do is to give something back to the community that's supporting him. Kiki1973
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11:39pm Mon 12 Nov 12

HRH of Boscombe says...

l'anglais wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered.
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However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable.
.
If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high.
.
He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in.
.
Try communism if you like!
Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today.
Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice.
Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society.
HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain!
Ahhh mon petit cochon, oui, oui!!!
.
I am alright Jacques!
.
Tell me what's so wrong and what you would change without communism instead of a preacher's drivel.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered. . However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable. . If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high. . He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in. . Try communism if you like![/p][/quote]Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today. Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice. Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society. HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain![/p][/quote]Ahhh mon petit cochon, oui, oui!!! . I am alright Jacques! . Tell me what's so wrong and what you would change without communism instead of a preacher's drivel. HRH of Boscombe
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5:27am Tue 13 Nov 12

Nashville says...

Please don't assume that those of us who don't steal, do drugs or drink have had easy lives. I sure haven't, but I have morals that is the difference.
Please don't assume that those of us who don't steal, do drugs or drink have had easy lives. I sure haven't, but I have morals that is the difference. Nashville
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6:35am Tue 13 Nov 12

retry69 says...

Not the first time Judge Wiggs name has popped up when handing out soft sentences,when are the police going to get some backing for their efforts.
Not the first time Judge Wiggs name has popped up when handing out soft sentences,when are the police going to get some backing for their efforts. retry69
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1:25pm Tue 13 Nov 12

stevobath says...

the parsons nose wrote:
LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be
its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another
i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong
okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit
Great post.

I worked very hard from leaving school up until I was around 32.
Without going into detail, I lost my partner,Mother in a short space of time & had a breakdown.My life unravelled.
I could no longer afford my mortgage & became so ill,both physically & mentally.I had to leave my job,became homeless & ended up on the street & started taking drugs etc.

I tried to get assistance BEFORE I reached the low point in life but found dead ends & no real help.Id always been a very strong person & others always looked to ME for help.I used to judge those on the street etc,until I experienced too many knocks at once.

Its easy to call people scum etc.I never resorted to burglary or robbery etc.

Life can change vey quickly for people.I look at things slightly different now after going through some tough times.One of the worst things I found was having no place to call home.Living on the street wasnt my choice.Unfortunately my family couldnt/wouldnt help whatsoever.
Having decent family around at trying times is so important.Not everyone has this support or can sort things out easily.There are stories behind these type of people.Its got nothing to do with 'bleeding hearts' etc.

Some may not deserve sympathy but that doesnt mean everyone is the same.Without ANY compassion the World would be an even worse place.

Lets not forget, Cameron was telling us to 'Hug a Hoody' 6 years back....soon changed his tune!
[quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.[/p][/quote]thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit[/p][/quote]Great post. I worked very hard from leaving school up until I was around 32. Without going into detail, I lost my partner,Mother in a short space of time & had a breakdown.My life unravelled. I could no longer afford my mortgage & became so ill,both physically & mentally.I had to leave my job,became homeless & ended up on the street & started taking drugs etc. I tried to get assistance BEFORE I reached the low point in life but found dead ends & no real help.Id always been a very strong person & others always looked to ME for help.I used to judge those on the street etc,until I experienced too many knocks at once. Its easy to call people scum etc.I never resorted to burglary or robbery etc. Life can change vey quickly for people.I look at things slightly different now after going through some tough times.One of the worst things I found was having no place to call home.Living on the street wasnt my choice.Unfortunately my family couldnt/wouldnt help whatsoever. Having decent family around at trying times is so important.Not everyone has this support or can sort things out easily.There are stories behind these type of people.Its got nothing to do with 'bleeding hearts' etc. Some may not deserve sympathy but that doesnt mean everyone is the same.Without ANY compassion the World would be an even worse place. Lets not forget, Cameron was telling us to 'Hug a Hoody' 6 years back....soon changed his tune! stevobath
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1:31pm Tue 13 Nov 12

stevobath says...

rudolph_hucker wrote:
proof if any were needed that our jails are a soft touch and act as no deterrent
Proof that people get 'institutionalised'.


Prison is no soft touch,if it was everyone would be trying to get locked up.

Too many 'Daily Mail' stories read & believed.

As Charles Manson stated'Locking me up at 12 & experiencing most of life in institutions made me who I am'
[quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: proof if any were needed that our jails are a soft touch and act as no deterrent[/p][/quote]Proof that people get 'institutionalised'. Prison is no soft touch,if it was everyone would be trying to get locked up. Too many 'Daily Mail' stories read & believed. As Charles Manson stated'Locking me up at 12 & experiencing most of life in institutions made me who I am' stevobath
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5:06pm Tue 13 Nov 12

l'anglais says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered.
.
However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable.
.
If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high.
.
He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in.
.
Try communism if you like!
Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today.
Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice.
Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society.
HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain!
Ahhh mon petit cochon, oui, oui!!!
.
I am alright Jacques!
.
Tell me what's so wrong and what you would change without communism instead of a preacher's drivel.
Votre français est aussi pitoyable que votre anglais.......petit con.

You seem to have communism on the brain, assuming that evrything that is anti-capitalism must be communist.
It isn't quite a simply as black and white, night and day.
The issue is that those who hold power happen to have the wealth, which in turn is transformed into influence.
This wealth has been created not through hard work, as they like you to believe, but through choosing profession, lawyers, banking, real estate etc... that exploit people.
All I ask is that professions that assist society, care for the elderly, nursing, armed forces, policing, firemen..etc...are looked upon by those who govern OUR nation (I ain't french sonny) as a benefit instead as non-productive.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: It's just the game of life. Some play to win, some can't be bothered. . However much these insects make my skin crawl they make my life more profitable. . If everyone worked salaries would be much lower to spread the wealth around. Instead we have a society where you can earn high if you aim high. . He'll get a very short life sentence if he tries to burgal my house but this is the world we live in. . Try communism if you like![/p][/quote]Typical "I'm all right jack" comment that sums up capitalism in Little Britain today. Your economic reasoning is nonsense, you have a society where those aim to take advantage of the poor and needy are rewarded, that isn't aiming high, that is greed and malice. Today's generation believe that those who wish to look after the vulnerable and infirmed are classed as non-profitable aspects of our society. HRH you and you comments are all that is wrong with today's Britain![/p][/quote]Ahhh mon petit cochon, oui, oui!!! . I am alright Jacques! . Tell me what's so wrong and what you would change without communism instead of a preacher's drivel.[/p][/quote]Votre français est aussi pitoyable que votre anglais.......petit con. You seem to have communism on the brain, assuming that evrything that is anti-capitalism must be communist. It isn't quite a simply as black and white, night and day. The issue is that those who hold power happen to have the wealth, which in turn is transformed into influence. This wealth has been created not through hard work, as they like you to believe, but through choosing profession, lawyers, banking, real estate etc... that exploit people. All I ask is that professions that assist society, care for the elderly, nursing, armed forces, policing, firemen..etc...are looked upon by those who govern OUR nation (I ain't french sonny) as a benefit instead as non-productive. l'anglais
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6:05pm Tue 13 Nov 12

LordLilliput says...

stevobath wrote:
the parsons nose wrote:
LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be
its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another
i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong
okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit
Great post.

I worked very hard from leaving school up until I was around 32.
Without going into detail, I lost my partner,Mother in a short space of time & had a breakdown.My life unravelled.
I could no longer afford my mortgage & became so ill,both physically & mentally.I had to leave my job,became homeless & ended up on the street & started taking drugs etc.

I tried to get assistance BEFORE I reached the low point in life but found dead ends & no real help.Id always been a very strong person & others always looked to ME for help.I used to judge those on the street etc,until I experienced too many knocks at once.

Its easy to call people scum etc.I never resorted to burglary or robbery etc.

Life can change vey quickly for people.I look at things slightly different now after going through some tough times.One of the worst things I found was having no place to call home.Living on the street wasnt my choice.Unfortunately my family couldnt/wouldnt help whatsoever.
Having decent family around at trying times is so important.Not everyone has this support or can sort things out easily.There are stories behind these type of people.Its got nothing to do with 'bleeding hearts' etc.

Some may not deserve sympathy but that doesnt mean everyone is the same.Without ANY compassion the World would be an even worse place.

Lets not forget, Cameron was telling us to 'Hug a Hoody' 6 years back....soon changed his tune!
I absolutely understand and agree with your sentiment. Compassion for others that are struggling is far too often a trait that is lacking in our society. What I do have a problem with is when an individual knowingly and intentionally sets about on ruining other people's lives. One can only imagine how much distress and fear this man has caused others and for that (and I refer to him - not those generically who are struggling) there has to be accountability for one's actions. I sincerely hope that you have made sense of your difficult times and are in a better place now.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.[/p][/quote]thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit[/p][/quote]Great post. I worked very hard from leaving school up until I was around 32. Without going into detail, I lost my partner,Mother in a short space of time & had a breakdown.My life unravelled. I could no longer afford my mortgage & became so ill,both physically & mentally.I had to leave my job,became homeless & ended up on the street & started taking drugs etc. I tried to get assistance BEFORE I reached the low point in life but found dead ends & no real help.Id always been a very strong person & others always looked to ME for help.I used to judge those on the street etc,until I experienced too many knocks at once. Its easy to call people scum etc.I never resorted to burglary or robbery etc. Life can change vey quickly for people.I look at things slightly different now after going through some tough times.One of the worst things I found was having no place to call home.Living on the street wasnt my choice.Unfortunately my family couldnt/wouldnt help whatsoever. Having decent family around at trying times is so important.Not everyone has this support or can sort things out easily.There are stories behind these type of people.Its got nothing to do with 'bleeding hearts' etc. Some may not deserve sympathy but that doesnt mean everyone is the same.Without ANY compassion the World would be an even worse place. Lets not forget, Cameron was telling us to 'Hug a Hoody' 6 years back....soon changed his tune![/p][/quote]I absolutely understand and agree with your sentiment. Compassion for others that are struggling is far too often a trait that is lacking in our society. What I do have a problem with is when an individual knowingly and intentionally sets about on ruining other people's lives. One can only imagine how much distress and fear this man has caused others and for that (and I refer to him - not those generically who are struggling) there has to be accountability for one's actions. I sincerely hope that you have made sense of your difficult times and are in a better place now. LordLilliput
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9:22pm Tue 13 Nov 12

the parsons nose says...

LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote:
LordLilliput wrote:
the parsons nose wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?
What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.
thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be
its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another
i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong
okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit
I think you're confusing compassion with common sense. You talk about his 'raw deal' as if the world has done him an injustice. It is HE who is the perpetrator of injustice by making a conscious decision to ruin other people's lives by breaking into their houses, scaring the living daylights out of them and stealing their possessions. Some people do not ever get over that.

Your attitude to these people, some of which have undoubtably experienced equally hard knocks during their lives, is despicable and contemptuous. Other than to make sweeping statements that those who dislike this kind of individual and all that he has done to society probably indulge themselves in a 'cosy existence' - which is colloquial nonsense - I really do not see what point you are attempting to make.
well you certainly understood it when stevobath told you his story , where i mentioned raw deal there was no reference whatsoever to this individual , i think you read only the words you want to see . it is my right to empathise with people if i choose ,it does not mean that i condone ,rather that i can understand what drives people to desperate measures and bad judgements . there but for the grace of god , i think is the saying and i am no believer but i have seen some really nice people slip so far down in their lives that they havent recovered from it , i can tell you its not pretty .
[quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the parsons nose[/bold] wrote: how brave we are on a forum ,i doubt you have anything to burgle , ( not burgal), anyway . the guy knows hes a wrong-un ,he says so but why do you have to try and make him feel like he owes you something ? would prison be a choice for anyone ,? there are some people for whom life isnt all roses and a lot of them you dont know about . i wonder why no one has thought to pour some salt on you ?[/p][/quote]What are you rambling on about? Because he realises he's a wrong 'un that doesn't exactly make what he has done more acceptable. The pain these people cause to innocent victims is immeasurable - and you think he needs respect and understanding? How about you take him under your wing when he next gets out and look after him if you feel so strongly. Maybe you won't feel quite so morally obliged when you return home to an 'empty' house.[/p][/quote]thats not what i said , i dont think theres any excuse but thats me ,i am not in his situation and sure as hell wouldnt want to be its easy to spout off when your situation is cosy but just maybe some of you need to see life from the other side ,i wonder how you would cope ,for many it is one raw deal after another i am no bleeding heart i ,just think its a shame that life knocks some people so far down that they see prison as a lifestyle choice , its all very wrong okay so most of us work and we are above board , well hooray for us but lets just hope that our cosy existance doesnt suddenly collapse around us because it might just change your attitude a bit[/p][/quote]I think you're confusing compassion with common sense. You talk about his 'raw deal' as if the world has done him an injustice. It is HE who is the perpetrator of injustice by making a conscious decision to ruin other people's lives by breaking into their houses, scaring the living daylights out of them and stealing their possessions. Some people do not ever get over that. Your attitude to these people, some of which have undoubtably experienced equally hard knocks during their lives, is despicable and contemptuous. Other than to make sweeping statements that those who dislike this kind of individual and all that he has done to society probably indulge themselves in a 'cosy existence' - which is colloquial nonsense - I really do not see what point you are attempting to make.[/p][/quote]well you certainly understood it when stevobath told you his story , where i mentioned raw deal there was no reference whatsoever to this individual , i think you read only the words you want to see . it is my right to empathise with people if i choose ,it does not mean that i condone ,rather that i can understand what drives people to desperate measures and bad judgements . there but for the grace of god , i think is the saying and i am no believer but i have seen some really nice people slip so far down in their lives that they havent recovered from it , i can tell you its not pretty . the parsons nose
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10:31pm Tue 13 Nov 12

LordLilliput says...

I never misunderstood 'it' - what a patronising attitude you hold. And as for suggesting your words had 'no reference whatsoever to this individual' - what and who are you referring to then and why do so here? Stop backtracking and relying upon others that express themselves better than yourself.

And again, I have plenty of compassion and consider myself a very generous and caring person in many ways but I will not defend those that knowingly cause others distress and ruin lives. My compassion is with the victim whom you have not mentioned once, which speaks aplenty.
I never misunderstood 'it' - what a patronising attitude you hold. And as for suggesting your words had 'no reference whatsoever to this individual' - what and who are you referring to then and why do so here? Stop backtracking and relying upon others that express themselves better than yourself. And again, I have plenty of compassion and consider myself a very generous and caring person in many ways but I will not defend those that knowingly cause others distress and ruin lives. My compassion is with the victim whom you have not mentioned once, which speaks aplenty. LordLilliput
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