Ian Knauer from Gillingham awarded £600,000 for loss of "extremely houseproud wife"

£600k awarded to husband for loss of

£600k awarded to husband for loss of "extremely houseproud wife"

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A HUSBAND from Dorset has won High Court damages of more than £600,000 for the loss of his "extremely houseproud wife''.

A judge described Ian Knauer, from Gillingham, and his late wife Sally, a mother of three, as "an old fashioned couple''.

The division of labour between the couple "was as it might have been in the 1950s,'' said Mr Justice Bean, sitting in London.

The judge assessed Mr Knauer, 54, should receive total damages of £647,840, the bulk of which is for the "loss of services'' of his wife. The couple's sons are now aged 22, 20 and 16.

The damages are to be paid by the Ministry of Justice (MoJ). Mrs Knauer died young, at the age of 46, as a result of exposure to asbestos at Guy's Marsh Prison, Shaftesbury, Dorset, while employed as an administrator between 1997-2007.

The judge said the prison had many old buildings containing asbestos and she contracted mesothelioma, a "hideous and incurable disease causing appalling suffering'', and died on August 28, 2009 .

The judge said the MoJ at first denied liability until the exchange of witness statements, when liability was admitted, but the MoJ contested how much Mr Knauer should receive in damages.

Referring to the level to which Mr Knauer depended on his wife, the judge said: "Mr and Mrs Knauer were an old-fashioned couple, in the sense that the division of labour in their household was as it might have been in the 1950s.

"Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs.

"In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden.''

The judge said Mr Knauer, a business development manager for a company owning public houses, "did the occasional tasks such as bathroom repairs but little more than that''.

When deciding how much to compensate the husband for his "dependency on the services'' of his late wife, the judge said he accepted Mr Knauer's evidence that Mrs Knauer "was extremely houseproud and would spend three hours on these tasks on a typical weekday and more than that on Saturdays and Sundays''.

The judge said: "It may be that the figure of 20 hours is if anything an underestimate of the time she spent.''

The judge specifically awarded Mr Knauer £88,160 for "past services dependency'' and £329,241 for "future services dependency''.

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5:11pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Hawkstone says...

Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area.
Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area. Hawkstone
  • Score: 12

5:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
"Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs.
"In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden.

.......

Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ?

Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.
You thoughtless, heartless pillock.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: "Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs. "In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden. ....... Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ? Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.[/p][/quote]You thoughtless, heartless pillock. Bournemouth Ohec
  • Score: 31

5:16pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

Sounds like she led a life of married work, looking after a husband and 3 sons. Now lets hope the husband and and boys continue doing what they expected this poor woman to do for the rest of her life.I doubt it very much they all appear to me to all be lazey !!! Bet there weekends wont be dull now.!
Sounds like she led a life of married work, looking after a husband and 3 sons. Now lets hope the husband and and boys continue doing what they expected this poor woman to do for the rest of her life.I doubt it very much they all appear to me to all be lazey !!! Bet there weekends wont be dull now.! bosco1
  • Score: 18

5:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Lord Parkstone says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
"Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs.
"In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden.

.......

Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ?

Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.
Lol. Depending on the quality and ability of her culinary skills she sounds perfect.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: "Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs. "In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden. ....... Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ? Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.[/p][/quote]Lol. Depending on the quality and ability of her culinary skills she sounds perfect. Lord Parkstone
  • Score: -10

5:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Bathsheba says...

i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning).
i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning). Bathsheba
  • Score: 40

5:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Hawkstone says...

Hawkstone wrote:
Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area.
Why the negatives? It wasn't meant to be disrespectful at all, I was seriously interested in the medical side of things. My neighbour died of the same illness , he was a builder and sadly died aged 44.
[quote][p][bold]Hawkstone[/bold] wrote: Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area.[/p][/quote]Why the negatives? It wasn't meant to be disrespectful at all, I was seriously interested in the medical side of things. My neighbour died of the same illness , he was a builder and sadly died aged 44. Hawkstone
  • Score: 24

6:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

RageAgainstTheMachine says...

Bathsheba wrote:
i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning).
He would of only got £2 for me as I despise housework and got too many good books to read,so leave the dusting for another day!
[quote][p][bold]Bathsheba[/bold] wrote: i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning).[/p][/quote]He would of only got £2 for me as I despise housework and got too many good books to read,so leave the dusting for another day! RageAgainstTheMachine
  • Score: 13

6:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

davecook says...

Bathsheba wrote:
i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning).
You have taken the words from my mouth. Whilst I feel sorry for him for the loss of his wife, his children are now old enough to look after themselves, and the husband really ought to be able to do a bit of decorating and cooking. How would this bloke cope had his wife died of some other disease (plenty of cancers out there that take people's beloved wives in their 40's, they just have to man up and get on with life). After all, it seems here the wife was the one who was houseproud, the husband just sat back and did virtually nothing except be waited on hand a foot by an unpaid lapdog.
[quote][p][bold]Bathsheba[/bold] wrote: i am truly gobsmacked. Are we saying Mr Knauer got more than usual because he no longer has a slave to do all his housework for him? Surely he can't be serious (although clearly very cunning).[/p][/quote]You have taken the words from my mouth. Whilst I feel sorry for him for the loss of his wife, his children are now old enough to look after themselves, and the husband really ought to be able to do a bit of decorating and cooking. How would this bloke cope had his wife died of some other disease (plenty of cancers out there that take people's beloved wives in their 40's, they just have to man up and get on with life). After all, it seems here the wife was the one who was houseproud, the husband just sat back and did virtually nothing except be waited on hand a foot by an unpaid lapdog. davecook
  • Score: 36

1:32am Sat 26 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
"Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs.
"In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden.

.......

Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ?

Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.
You complete and utter k n o b.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: "Mrs Knauer managed the household. She cleaned, cooked, changed the beds, laundered and ironed clothes, did the shopping and walked the dogs. "In addition she decorated the house when necessary, and tended to the garden. ....... Why would anybody want a wife if she wouldn't do these things ? Apart from washing the car and changing the oil and filter as per the service schudule, she sounds very good.[/p][/quote]You complete and utter k n o b. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 8

4:38am Sat 26 Jul 14

Supporterof says...

bosco1 wrote:
Sounds like she led a life of married work, looking after a husband and 3 sons. Now lets hope the husband and and boys continue doing what they expected this poor woman to do for the rest of her life.I doubt it very much they all appear to me to all be lazey !!! Bet there weekends wont be dull now.!
Let me assure you that this is undoubtably a snippet of her life, nice to see how quick you jump to the conclusions of the activities of her sons you must have a crystal ball.
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: Sounds like she led a life of married work, looking after a husband and 3 sons. Now lets hope the husband and and boys continue doing what they expected this poor woman to do for the rest of her life.I doubt it very much they all appear to me to all be lazey !!! Bet there weekends wont be dull now.![/p][/quote]Let me assure you that this is undoubtably a snippet of her life, nice to see how quick you jump to the conclusions of the activities of her sons you must have a crystal ball. Supporterof
  • Score: -6

9:09am Sat 26 Jul 14

Fingersonthem says...

Hawkstone wrote:
Hawkstone wrote:
Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area.
Why the negatives? It wasn't meant to be disrespectful at all, I was seriously interested in the medical side of things. My neighbour died of the same illness , he was a builder and sadly died aged 44.
I agree there are cases where the wife only washed her husband working overalls and contracted this disease , in another case clerical assistant who went no where near a boiler house but still contracted it from fibres off workers who visited the office .
As you say why does it hit some and not others, but it may take 40 years so we can not say some are immune.
[quote][p][bold]Hawkstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hawkstone[/bold] wrote: Whilst I don't doubt the legitimacy of the claim. I don't understand why everyone else working in the same environment has not suffered from the disease, in this case and many others. Do people,have to be predisposed to certain conditions for it to take hold?? I would be interested to see some research carried out in this area.[/p][/quote]Why the negatives? It wasn't meant to be disrespectful at all, I was seriously interested in the medical side of things. My neighbour died of the same illness , he was a builder and sadly died aged 44.[/p][/quote]I agree there are cases where the wife only washed her husband working overalls and contracted this disease , in another case clerical assistant who went no where near a boiler house but still contracted it from fibres off workers who visited the office . As you say why does it hit some and not others, but it may take 40 years so we can not say some are immune. Fingersonthem
  • Score: 2

10:12am Sat 26 Jul 14

XbrighteyesX says...

I'm sorry that the lady has lost her life, but on the other hand I think this is absolutly disgusting! That amount of money to be awarded to someone who can no longer live a life of lazyness! The poor woman sounds like she was looked upon as a slave .my partner works , I looks after him and our 3 children,washing,cle
aning,cooking,genera
l upkeep of our home,isn't this normal? If I thought that something happened to me and my partner could get this amount of money id be appauled! There are far more important things that this money could of been spent on......
I'm sorry that the lady has lost her life, but on the other hand I think this is absolutly disgusting! That amount of money to be awarded to someone who can no longer live a life of lazyness! The poor woman sounds like she was looked upon as a slave .my partner works , I looks after him and our 3 children,washing,cle aning,cooking,genera l upkeep of our home,isn't this normal? If I thought that something happened to me and my partner could get this amount of money id be appauled! There are far more important things that this money could of been spent on...... XbrighteyesX
  • Score: 7

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