THE unsightly flyover at Bournemouth's Pier Approach could be knocked down as part of a radical makeover for the town centre.
Council chiefs believe removing the flyover altogether and improving links between the gardens and the beach could be the best way of smartening up the whole Pier Approach area.
Another possibility would see the flyover remain but with a new pedestrian walkway, which would offer sea and garden views.
Residents are being invited to comment on the suggestions, which form part of the Town Centre Master Vision.
Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier and the Pier Approach is cluttered. Tackling this area is a major step in the vision.
"We'd like to make the paved area at Pier Approach more attractive, with a landscaped area for public performances and al fresco dining."
Removing the flyover would mean the loss of a major transport route into the town and a transport study will be carried out to help the council assess what impact this would have.
The vision is not just restricted to the Pier Approach area, but looks at how the entire town centre can be improved for residents and tourists.
Other ideas in the consultation document include building a botanical garden, a children's playground or a treetop walkway in the gardens.
The vision also questions whether building new town centre flats will enable the council to meet their house-building targets, while reducing the need to demolish family homes in other parts of the town.
Cllr Beesley added: "This vision is the result of months of hard work and extensive discussions with the public and with businesses.
"It's our opportunity to create a Bournemouth which this and future generations can be proud of. Working with the private sector we can attract extensive investment to inject more quality and keep this a premier destination."
Would you like to see Pier Approach smartened up? Should the flyover be demolished? Post your thoughts below.
6:14am Thursday 7th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: 2Much, New Forest on 7:19am Thu 7 Aug 08
If they want to get rid of anything, they should get rid of the IMAX! Losing this road would mean traffic jams galore after the BIC kicks out after an event.
[quote]Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier[/quote] Not compared to the IMAX it doesn't!
If they want to get rid of anything, they should get rid of the IMAX! Losing this road would mean traffic jams galore after the BIC kicks out after an event.
Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier
Not compared to the IMAX it doesn't!
Posted by: beachhut, southbourne on 7:50am Thu 7 Aug 08
ThIS IS THE FIRST CONSTUCTIVE AND SENSIBLE IDEA I HAVE SEEN FOR YEARS. THE BUSES COUKLD BE ROUTED VIA WESTOVER ROAD ( POSSIBLY TRAMS ) AND LEAVE THE GARDEN APPROACH TO AL FRESCO DINNING , NOT FUNFAIR RIDES. THE IMAX WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH A MORE LOW LEVEL LAND MARK VENUE IN THE AREA. SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN SIT AND LET THE LAST RAYS OF THE EVEING SUN WASH OVER YOU, AS EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA SEEMS TO HAVE ITS BACK TO THE SUN BY 4PM.
ThIS IS THE FIRST CONSTUCTIVE AND SENSIBLE IDEA I HAVE SEEN FOR YEARS. THE BUSES COUKLD BE ROUTED VIA WESTOVER ROAD ( POSSIBLY TRAMS ) AND LEAVE THE GARDEN APPROACH TO AL FRESCO DINNING , NOT FUNFAIR RIDES. THE IMAX WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH A MORE LOW LEVEL LAND MARK VENUE IN THE AREA. SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN SIT AND LET THE LAST RAYS OF THE EVEING SUN WASH OVER YOU, AS EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA SEEMS TO HAVE ITS BACK TO THE SUN BY 4PM.
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 8:08am Thu 7 Aug 08
To be fair it wouldnt effect me as i drive a cab ,but what a ridiculous idea ,it is a very important access road east to west and vise-versa we certainly dont need one LESS road. i would agree that if any demolition would improve the view its that of the Imax which is a monstrosity that would be at home on an industrial estate. a crime was committed when that eyesore was constructed
To be fair it wouldnt effect me as i drive a cab ,but what a ridiculous idea ,it is a very important access road east to west and vise-versa we certainly dont need one LESS road. i would agree that if any demolition would improve the view its that of the Imax which is a monstrosity that would be at home on an industrial estate. a crime was committed when that eyesore was constructed
Posted by: enid, Bournemouth on 8:15am Thu 7 Aug 08
Good idea, but totally impractical regarding traffic. Why not just tidy up the flyover - get rid of the advertising banners and fit troughs planted up with greenery and the flowers which Bournemouth does so well.
Also, we already have botanical gardens (Boscombe, Alum Chine, Central Gardens; overhead walk - go to Moors Valley. Childrens indoor playground#waterpark is what we need - but not quite in that position.
Good idea, but totally impractical regarding traffic. Why not just tidy up the flyover - get rid of the advertising banners and fit troughs planted up with greenery and the flowers which Bournemouth does so well.
Also, we already have botanical gardens (Boscombe, Alum Chine, Central Gardens; overhead walk - go to Moors Valley. Childrens indoor playground#waterpark is what we need - but not quite in that position.
Posted by: Roger, Bournemouth on 8:32am Thu 7 Aug 08
Interesting idea. However I cannot help wondering if this will be just another expensive excercise that goes nowhere. Our council is very keen to study things but seems unable to take any actions as a result of the study. We don't need another farce like the winter gardens. Lot's of study and no results.
Interesting idea. However I cannot help wondering if this will be just another expensive excercise that goes nowhere. Our council is very keen to study things but seems unable to take any actions as a result of the study. We don't need another farce like the winter gardens. Lot's of study and no results.
Posted by: adrian fudge, boscombe east on 8:34am Thu 7 Aug 08
Anybody who remembers what it was like down there prior to the flyover being built will remember the problem with pedestrians trying to cross the road
I cant see how the traffic can be diverted elsewhwhere unless you put it back through the Square so this is a complete nonsense but it gives the allusion of making a decision
All that will happen will be a lot of hot air ,probably expenditure on expensive consultants and then a decision to improve the appearance of the flyover leaving the status quo
Anybody who remembers what it was like down there prior to the flyover being built will remember the problem with pedestrians trying to cross the road
I cant see how the traffic can be diverted elsewhwhere unless you put it back through the Square so this is a complete nonsense but it gives the allusion of making a decision
All that will happen will be a lot of hot air ,probably expenditure on expensive consultants and then a decision to improve the appearance of the flyover leaving the status quo
Posted by: V Masterman on 8:42am Thu 7 Aug 08
If one is old enough (late 60s early 70s) one would recall the times in the summer when the traffic jams extended back to the Central Station due to Pier Approach as it was then and how many cars on the road then!! It was quicker to walk to the Square than catch a bus, which I did many a time. Leave it as it is, pedestrian are now segregated from traffic . It aint broke so don't fix it
If one is old enough (late 60s early 70s) one would recall the times in the summer when the traffic jams extended back to the Central Station due to Pier Approach as it was then and how many cars on the road then!! It was quicker to walk to the Square than catch a bus, which I did many a time. Leave it as it is, pedestrian are now segregated from traffic . It aint broke so don't fix it
Posted by: beachhut, southbourne on 8:55am Thu 7 Aug 08
WHY DO WE NEED THE FLYOVER.TRANSFER THE TRAFFIC VIA WESTOVER ROAD, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ONLY IN THE LOWER AREA, SAFER FOR TOURISTS AND CYCLISTS. I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. WE HAVE ENOUGH ROADS AND BYPASSES TO USE AS ALTERNATIVES.
WHY DO WE NEED THE FLYOVER.TRANSFER THE TRAFFIC VIA WESTOVER ROAD, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ONLY IN THE LOWER AREA, SAFER FOR TOURISTS AND CYCLISTS. I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. WE HAVE ENOUGH ROADS AND BYPASSES TO USE AS ALTERNATIVES.
Posted by: GRIFF, Christchurch on 8:57am Thu 7 Aug 08
Imax should be knocked down without a shadow of a doubt but what a silly idea thinking of removing the flyover, is such an important link.
Imax should be knocked down without a shadow of a doubt but what a silly idea thinking of removing the flyover, is such an important link.
Posted by: Adrian X, Poole on 9:08am Thu 7 Aug 08
The IMAX building is pretty much the ugliest thing around that area and should be destroyed.
If the traffic problems can genuinely be solved, which I doubt, then go ahead and knock down the flyover too. The other road that could be closed is Gervis place, creating a continuous traffic free area from the square to the pier.
I don't think continental al-fresco style dining is really going to work considering the low temperatures and high precipitation we experience in Bournemouth. Though it would make a change from the current alcohol culture.
If the council really want to seek the views of the public, why don't they start an internet discussion board?
The IMAX building is pretty much the ugliest thing around that area and should be destroyed.
If the traffic problems can genuinely be solved, which I doubt, then go ahead and knock down the flyover too. The other road that could be closed is Gervis place, creating a continuous traffic free area from the square to the pier.
I don't think continental al-fresco style dining is really going to work considering the low temperatures and high precipitation we experience in Bournemouth. Though it would make a change from the current alcohol culture.
If the council really want to seek the views of the public, why don't they start an internet discussion board?
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 9:32am Thu 7 Aug 08
If we ignore the impracticality of removing a main transport route, [italic]who is to pay for all this?[/italic] Not us I hope. Is there no way that we can stop the [bold]care free spending of tax money[/bold] on these impractical cosmetic building projects, or do the hoteliers and builder/developers rule supreme in the Town Halls?
The relatively small numbers of holiday makers who would appreciate the view without the fly-over cannot possibly justify the enormous cost of removal of the structure and re-establishment of the old route across the square.
And some might feel that the fly-over has an intrinsic beauty of it’s own in it‘s [italic]elegant sweep[/italic] right across the valley. The divide between the gardens and the sea front emphasis the differences between the two worlds, and the shade and cover from the sudden rain shower has been much appreciated by many.
Of course we all know that Melanie Vass has just written a stimulating interesting scandal article to get us all going this morning before we settle down to work, and that the Council has no intention of throwing good money away on such a crazy scheme -
Don’t we?
[italic]Adrian X, Poole on 9:08am today[/italic]Now that is a [italic]very[/italic] good idea!
If we ignore the impracticality of removing a main transport route,
who is to pay for all this? Not us I hope. Is there no way that we can stop the
care free spending of tax money on these impractical cosmetic building projects, or do the hoteliers and builder/developers rule supreme in the Town Halls?
The relatively small numbers of holiday makers who would appreciate the view without the fly-over cannot possibly justify the enormous cost of removal of the structure and re-establishment of the old route across the square.
And some might feel that the fly-over has an intrinsic beauty of it’s own in it‘s
elegant sweep right across the valley. The divide between the gardens and the sea front emphasis the differences between the two worlds, and the shade and cover from the sudden rain shower has been much appreciated by many.
Of course we all know that Melanie Vass has just written a stimulating interesting scandal article to get us all going this morning before we settle down to work, and that the Council has no intention of throwing good money away on such a crazy scheme -
Don’t we?
Adrian X, Poole on 9:08am todayNow that is a
very good idea!
Posted by: Hugh, Bournemouth on 9:55am Thu 7 Aug 08
Adrian X, Poole on 9:08am today
[quote]If the council really want to seek the views of the public, why don't they start an internet discussion board?[/quote]
Now that is a very good idea!
Adrian X, Poole on 9:08am today
If the council really want to seek the views of the public, why don't they start an internet discussion board?
Now that is a very good idea!
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 10:44am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]2Much[/bold] wrote:
If they want to get rid of anything, they should get rid of the IMAX! Losing this road would mean traffic jams galore after the BIC kicks out after an event. [quote]Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier[/quote] Not compared to the IMAX it doesn't! [/quote] Spot on!
2Much wrote:
If they want to get rid of anything, they should get rid of the IMAX! Losing this road would mean traffic jams galore after the BIC kicks out after an event. Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier
Not compared to the IMAX it doesn't!
Spot on!
Posted by: JLC2, here on 10:47am Thu 7 Aug 08
I think it's a brilliant idea. What does the flyover really link anyway? East and west cliff? The traffic could be re-routed behind the cinemas and round the top of Richmond hill. Who needs to drive in front of the Imax and BIC anyway? Why not get rid of it completely? Locals would only have a small detour to make, and all the grockles should be detered from driving into the town anyway.
It's such a good idea. Knock it down, knock the IMAX down and that area would flourish! It would be so, so much better.
I think it's a brilliant idea. What does the flyover really link anyway? East and west cliff? The traffic could be re-routed behind the cinemas and round the top of Richmond hill. Who needs to drive in front of the Imax and BIC anyway? Why not get rid of it completely? Locals would only have a small detour to make, and all the grockles should be detered from driving into the town anyway.
It's such a good idea. Knock it down, knock the IMAX down and that area would flourish! It would be so, so much better.
Posted by: JLC2, here on 10:50am Thu 7 Aug 08
I think it's a brilliant idea. What does the flyover really link anyway? East and west cliff? The traffic could be re-routed behind the cinemas and round the top of Richmond hill. Who needs to drive in front of the Imax and BIC anyway? Why not get rid of it completely? Locals would only have a small detour to make, and all the grockles should be detered from driving into the town anyway.
It's such a good idea. Knock it down, knock the IMAX down and that area would flourish! It would be so, so much better.
I think it's a brilliant idea. What does the flyover really link anyway? East and west cliff? The traffic could be re-routed behind the cinemas and round the top of Richmond hill. Who needs to drive in front of the Imax and BIC anyway? Why not get rid of it completely? Locals would only have a small detour to make, and all the grockles should be detered from driving into the town anyway.
It's such a good idea. Knock it down, knock the IMAX down and that area would flourish! It would be so, so much better.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 10:55am Thu 7 Aug 08
Having read most of the Vision Consultation, I am liking a lot of what is proposed, planned, or in thinking to improve Bournemouth and its Town Centre area and the area of Pier Approach.
Regarding the flyover. One possible idea which would alleviate both the problem of the flyover, and traffic and pedestrian congestion by using a pedestrian crossing. Why not have an under pass, which leaves the gardens, and rises again on the pier side. This will then allow the road to be brought back to ground level, thus opening up the views back from the pier, which is the objective. Secondly this would then cut back on change of infrastructure within the town centre. We retain the through East to West traffic flow, with a safe walk way for the pedestrians.
Seafront. We must get rid of the IMAX building. With the Pavilion showing off its new look, it is marred by this monstrosity across the road, at the same time blocking out the views across the bay.
It would be a good idea to build a single storey building in line with the decor of the other buildings adorning the Pier Approach, and use this building as a wet weather activities area, such as a swimming pool, indoor sports etc etc.
As for the gardens. I am all for the proposals, and much more.
Having read most of the Vision Consultation, I am liking a lot of what is proposed, planned, or in thinking to improve Bournemouth and its Town Centre area and the area of Pier Approach.
Regarding the flyover. One possible idea which would alleviate both the problem of the flyover, and traffic and pedestrian congestion by using a pedestrian crossing. Why not have an under pass, which leaves the gardens, and rises again on the pier side. This will then allow the road to be brought back to ground level, thus opening up the views back from the pier, which is the objective. Secondly this would then cut back on change of infrastructure within the town centre. We retain the through East to West traffic flow, with a safe walk way for the pedestrians.
Seafront. We must get rid of the IMAX building. With the Pavilion showing off its new look, it is marred by this monstrosity across the road, at the same time blocking out the views across the bay.
It would be a good idea to build a single storey building in line with the decor of the other buildings adorning the Pier Approach, and use this building as a wet weather activities area, such as a swimming pool, indoor sports etc etc.
As for the gardens. I am all for the proposals, and much more.
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 10:57am Thu 7 Aug 08
Are people really suggesting that the closing of this road would not cause gridlock elsewhere?
There are 100's of cars passing over it every hour - to route them "behind the cinema" - a small narrow one way system would result in chaos.
Or would you send it all down Old Christchurch Rd? - Chaos.
Or feed all traffic to the Wessex Way and make it go the long way round? Well that never gets busy does it......
Are people really suggesting that the closing of this road would not cause gridlock elsewhere?
There are 100's of cars passing over it every hour - to route them "behind the cinema" - a small narrow one way system would result in chaos.
Or would you send it all down Old Christchurch Rd? - Chaos.
Or feed all traffic to the Wessex Way and make it go the long way round? Well that never gets busy does it......
Posted by: In Absentia, Bournemouth on 10:58am Thu 7 Aug 08
I think this is all wildly speculative. I certainly don't want to see an increase in Council Tax bills to fund this, nor will there be loads of private investment as we enter a recession.
I think this is all wildly speculative. I certainly don't want to see an increase in Council Tax bills to fund this, nor will there be loads of private investment as we enter a recession.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 11:01am Thu 7 Aug 08
[bold]Quote [/bold] Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier and the Pier Approach is cluttered. Tackling this area is a major step in the vision.
[bold]Reply [/bold] Whilst I do agree with Cllr Beesley, that this is an awful [bold]eyesore[/bold] as is. It is also most important to [bold]prioritise[/bold] traffic flow hence I would suggest that instead of a [bold]wasteful destructive solution[/bold] as mentioned. There is an [bold]alternative[/bold] .
1 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable floral [bold]Facade[/bold] so as to get the best of both Worlds.
2 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable [bold]facade[/bold] to cover this [bold]dreadful BIC[/bold] as it looks reminiscent to a [bold]Prison Block[/bold] as is. It certainly spoils any photography when it gets in a frame.
3 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan to turn the IMAX into an [bold]International sized Swimming Pool and Ice Rink.[/bold] Plus approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable facade to the [bold]IMAX[/bold] .
Meanwhile take a good look at
[bold]Bournemouth Picture Gallery[/bold] link below:
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Quote Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said: "The beach and Pier Approach is in effect Bournemouth's shop window, yet at the moment the flyover provides an unsightly barrier and the Pier Approach is cluttered. Tackling this area is a major step in the vision.
Reply Whilst I do agree with Cllr Beesley, that this is an awful
eyesore as is. It is also most important to
prioritise traffic flow hence I would suggest that instead of a
wasteful destructive solution as mentioned. There is an
alternative .
1 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable floral
Facade so as to get the best of both Worlds.
2 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable
facade to cover this
dreadful BIC as it looks reminiscent to a
Prison Block as is. It certainly spoils any photography when it gets in a frame.
3 Approach designers to forward a futuristic plan to turn the IMAX into an
International sized Swimming Pool and Ice Rink. Plus approach designers to forward a futuristic plan for a suitable facade to the
IMAX .
Meanwhile take a good look at
Bournemouth Picture Gallery link below:
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/Bournemou
th_Picture_Gallery.h
tm
Posted by: caz, Parkstone on 11:16am Thu 7 Aug 08
What a ridiculous idea! It needs tidying up ie; get rid of the Imax but not the flyover. They need to create better traffic flow in Bournemouth, not make it worse.
What a ridiculous idea! It needs tidying up ie; get rid of the Imax but not the flyover. They need to create better traffic flow in Bournemouth, not make it worse.
Posted by: John, Poole on 11:27am Thu 7 Aug 08
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be
proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed.
Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach).
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be
proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed.
Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach).
Posted by: golddust*, poole on 11:44am Thu 7 Aug 08
I agree with many others that the most important thing to do is to get rid of the useless ugly Imax building - it's just a joke that brings down Bournemouth's reputation. I agree that we still need a road tho, so why not build a tunnel - solving the ugly flyover problem and not causing even more traffic issues in busy periods.
I agree with many others that the most important thing to do is to get rid of the useless ugly Imax building - it's just a joke that brings down Bournemouth's reputation. I agree that we still need a road tho, so why not build a tunnel - solving the ugly flyover problem and not causing even more traffic issues in busy periods.
Posted by: DeeJayCee, Bournemouth on 11:52am Thu 7 Aug 08
Good idea to demolish the flyover, the road link could be re-established by the reintroduction of the roundabout in the Square and opening up Gervis Place to all traffic. The car park at Exeter Crescent would make a good site for public transport instead of busses clogging up the road outside W H Smith. One last point, no more fairgrounds outside the pier approach.
Good idea to demolish the flyover, the road link could be re-established by the reintroduction of the roundabout in the Square and opening up Gervis Place to all traffic. The car park at Exeter Crescent would make a good site for public transport instead of busses clogging up the road outside W H Smith. One last point, no more fairgrounds outside the pier approach.
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 11:56am Thu 7 Aug 08
Demolish the flyover, but leave the rubble. You could then charge people £1 a go to throw the rocks at the IMAX.
Everyone's a winner!
Demolish the flyover, but leave the rubble. You could then charge people £1 a go to throw the rocks at the IMAX.
Everyone's a winner!
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 12:00pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Demolish the flyover, and the IMAX and use the rubble to help make the reef. That will save some money certainly.
Sorry could not resist that.
lol, lol, lol
Demolish the flyover, and the IMAX and use the rubble to help make the reef. That will save some money certainly.
Sorry could not resist that.
lol, lol, lol
Posted by: John, Poole on 12:01pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]FletcherTheCat[/bold] wrote:
Demolish the flyover, but leave the rubble. You could then charge people £1 a go to throw the rocks at the IMAX. Everyone's a winner![/quote] Let him who casts the first stone be without sin.
No chance of more publicity for Bournemouth Council or Tobias Elwood there then!
FletcherTheCat wrote:
Demolish the flyover, but leave the rubble. You could then charge people £1 a go to throw the rocks at the IMAX. Everyone's a winner!
Let him who casts the first stone be without sin.
No chance of more publicity for Bournemouth Council or Tobias Elwood there then!
Posted by: Jean-Jacques Dauchot, poole on 12:03pm Thu 7 Aug 08
I would like to see the IMAX demolished first. It is not used for what it was built for. It is questionable why it was built there at the first place.
I would like to see the IMAX demolished first. It is not used for what it was built for. It is questionable why it was built there at the first place.
Posted by: JLC2, here on 12:07pm Thu 7 Aug 08
How many years has the IMAX building (or at least the majority of it) been empty for now?
How many years has the IMAX building (or at least the majority of it) been empty for now?
Posted by: Big Rich, Ferndown on 12:34pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Yes IMAX should be bulldozed.
But will the demolition company employed be able to supply the sizeable brown envelopes that the councillors got first time round from the developers????
Yes IMAX should be bulldozed.
But will the demolition company employed be able to supply the sizeable brown envelopes that the councillors got first time round from the developers????
Posted by: aviewoneverything, Bournemouth on 12:50pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Sounds like a great idea to me. It's good to see the council are finally realising that the beach and it's approaches are the towns biggest, and free assets. Take a page from the resorts found abroad...cafe's bars and restaurants along the seafront. We've got seven miles of beach here, lets make the most of it.
With regards to the traffic, is a tunnel instead of a flyover not viable?
Sounds like a great idea to me. It's good to see the council are finally realising that the beach and it's approaches are the towns biggest, and free assets. Take a page from the resorts found abroad...cafe's bars and restaurants along the seafront. We've got seven miles of beach here, lets make the most of it.
With regards to the traffic, is a tunnel instead of a flyover not viable?
Posted by: Perihelion, Bournemouth on 1:18pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Without the Flyover, traffic from West Cliff would from the BIC to the Triangle (past the New C&A flagship site), turn right, past M&S and thro the Sqaure by Boarders (over the dangerous pedestrain crossing), right at the Town Hall and up St. Stephens Road to the dangerous junction at Richmond Hill (outside the Echo Office)(where the council have failed to take action to improve peds/cars conflict). Or with the flyover, the vehicles are separated from people for about 3/4 of a mile. Lets hope common sense prevails: keep the flyover.
Without the Flyover, traffic from West Cliff would from the BIC to the Triangle (past the New C&A flagship site), turn right, past M&S and thro the Sqaure by Boarders (over the dangerous pedestrain crossing), right at the Town Hall and up St. Stephens Road to the dangerous junction at Richmond Hill (outside the Echo Office)(where the council have failed to take action to improve peds/cars conflict). Or with the flyover, the vehicles are separated from people for about 3/4 of a mile. Lets hope common sense prevails: keep the flyover.
Posted by: alumchineboy, Alumchine on 1:36pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Seeing as there is millions to spend on the holidaymakers, can we please have the roads around Westbourne and Alum Chine resurfsaced first. Apparently there isn't any money to do this. We must have the worst roads in the county. Not everyone own a hotel or lives in the town centre or is a daytripper !
Seeing as there is millions to spend on the holidaymakers, can we please have the roads around Westbourne and Alum Chine resurfsaced first. Apparently there isn't any money to do this. We must have the worst roads in the county. Not everyone own a hotel or lives in the town centre or is a daytripper !
Posted by: JC, Under the Sea on 1:42pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Are people seriously suggesting knocking down the fly-over & rerouting traffic through the pedestrianised town centre instead?! I wonder if any of these people live in the local area & travel along those roads every day...? I seriously doubt it, otherwise they'd know what a stupid idea it is - unless the master plan is to bring the whole town to a gridlock?
If the Imax is demolished, there will be room to widen the current road to a dual carriageway. I hope this equally ridiculous proposal will also be given consideration...
Are people seriously suggesting knocking down the fly-over & rerouting traffic through the pedestrianised town centre instead?! I wonder if any of these people live in the local area & travel along those roads every day...? I seriously doubt it, otherwise they'd know what a stupid idea it is - unless the master plan is to bring the whole town to a gridlock?
If the Imax is demolished, there will be room to widen the current road to a dual carriageway. I hope this equally ridiculous proposal will also be given consideration...
Posted by: Roger, Bournemouth on 2:06pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Roger[/bold] wrote:
Interesting idea. However I cannot help wondering if this will be just another expensive excercise that goes nowhere. Our council is very keen to study things but seems unable to take any actions as a result of the study. We don't need another farce like the winter gardens. Lot's of study and no results.[/quote] The Echo scores again! --There are apparently two of us registered to this forum as 'Roger,Bournemouth'. Fortunately, I happen to agree with this post from the other 'Roger'. Lets hope we always agree - if we don't it could be fun! I guess could always write rude things, and blame the other 'Roger' ....oh, wait a minute, so can he......!
Roger wrote:
Interesting idea. However I cannot help wondering if this will be just another expensive excercise that goes nowhere. Our council is very keen to study things but seems unable to take any actions as a result of the study. We don't need another farce like the winter gardens. Lot's of study and no results.
The Echo scores again! --There are apparently two of us registered to this forum as 'Roger,Bournemouth'. Fortunately, I happen to agree with this post from the other 'Roger'. Lets hope we always agree - if we don't it could be fun! I guess could always write rude things, and blame the other 'Roger' ....oh, wait a minute, so can he......!
Posted by: Annette, Wimborne on 2:27pm Thu 7 Aug 08
The IMAX was a disaster except for those who got the backhanders. And is it actually open? Pull it down I say - it blocks the views.
Also the amusement arcades on the pier and on the esplanade should be gotten rid of if there was a way to do this
The IMAX was a disaster except for those who got the backhanders. And is it actually open? Pull it down I say - it blocks the views.
Also the amusement arcades on the pier and on the esplanade should be gotten rid of if there was a way to do this
Posted by: Munkstar, Bournemouth on 3:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08
We need ... a Tunnel. Out to sea and back. With a ferry. An amusements arcade island. An Imax cinema as an poor weather attraction. All paid for by the council tax.
We need ... a Tunnel. Out to sea and back. With a ferry. An amusements arcade island. An Imax cinema as an poor weather attraction. All paid for by the council tax.
Posted by: Big Rich, Ferndown on 3:20pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Annette[/bold] wrote:
The IMAX was a disaster except for those who got the backhanders. And is it actually open? Pull it down I say - it blocks the views.
Also the amusement arcades on the pier and on the esplanade should be gotten rid of if there was a way to do this[/quote] Spot on
Annette wrote:
The IMAX was a disaster except for those who got the backhanders. And is it actually open? Pull it down I say - it blocks the views.
Also the amusement arcades on the pier and on the esplanade should be gotten rid of if there was a way to do this
Spot on
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 3:24pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Interesting idea but some serious problems.
Leaving the BIC at the end of a cul-de-sac isn't very sensible really.
Would only leave Wessex way as the route across town. One minor accident and the town would basically stop!!!
Interesting idea but some serious problems.
Leaving the BIC at the end of a cul-de-sac isn't very sensible really.
Would only leave Wessex way as the route across town. One minor accident and the town would basically stop!!!
Posted by: JC, Under the Sea on 3:42pm Thu 7 Aug 08
For the sake of making pier approach look a bit more pleasant for holidaymakers who spend perhaps one or two weeks of the year in our town, this proposal would make the town centre a much more unattractive place for those of us who actually live there. If that fly-over goes, all the traffic will have to find another way through - it won't simply disappear. All the smaller roads through town will be chock full of cars & lorries adding to the air & noise pollution, as well as turning a stroll through town into a game of death when trying to cross the roads.
Who exactly are Bournemouth council there to serve - the holidaymakers, or the residents who pay their wages and fund stupid little schemes like this?
For the sake of making pier approach look a bit more pleasant for holidaymakers who spend perhaps one or two weeks of the year in our town, this proposal would make the town centre a much more unattractive place for those of us who actually live there. If that fly-over goes, all the traffic will have to find another way through - it won't simply disappear. All the smaller roads through town will be chock full of cars & lorries adding to the air & noise pollution, as well as turning a stroll through town into a game of death when trying to cross the roads.
Who exactly are Bournemouth council there to serve - the holidaymakers, or the residents who pay their wages and fund stupid little schemes like this?
Posted by: rook, poole on 3:49pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Presumably this work would be out to tender and not just given to a friendly local construction company (with the right connections)?
I don't find the flyover unattractive at all either from on it or from below. In fact it always gave a very welcoming view of the Purbecks when I used to visit the town. Coming the other way you could see the Isle of Wight. In fact cars used to drive slowly over it just to admire the views and watch the people swimming. As many have pointed out, the flyover's not the problem, the IMAX is. Get rid of that and restore the lovely views.
Presumably this work would be out to tender and not just given to a friendly local construction company (with the right connections)?
I don't find the flyover unattractive at all either from on it or from below. In fact it always gave a very welcoming view of the Purbecks when I used to visit the town. Coming the other way you could see the Isle of Wight. In fact cars used to drive slowly over it just to admire the views and watch the people swimming. As many have pointed out, the flyover's not the problem, the IMAX is. Get rid of that and restore the lovely views.
Posted by: APMF, bournemouth on 4:22pm Thu 7 Aug 08
As a child I remember coming down Bath Hill on the bus to the spectacular views. The building where the Imax now stands used to be an olympic size swimming pool with diving boards and I spent half of my teenage life there. I also used to perform in the aqua show, nothing like this now is there! All of this brings back good childhood memories for me. They now have this monstrocity of a building (IMAX) which has taken away what must have compared to some of the best views in the UK. Now there is no where to swim in the town centre, no where for teenagers to go and just have fun. Whoever granted permission for these plans to be passed should be locked up. Knock down the IMAX Centre, get some wet weather activities for both our local kids, teenagers and holiday makers to enjoy and if you must knock down the flyover, build an underpass to replace it. There now that wasn't too difficult was it.
As a child I remember coming down Bath Hill on the bus to the spectacular views. The building where the Imax now stands used to be an olympic size swimming pool with diving boards and I spent half of my teenage life there. I also used to perform in the aqua show, nothing like this now is there! All of this brings back good childhood memories for me. They now have this monstrocity of a building (IMAX) which has taken away what must have compared to some of the best views in the UK. Now there is no where to swim in the town centre, no where for teenagers to go and just have fun. Whoever granted permission for these plans to be passed should be locked up. Knock down the IMAX Centre, get some wet weather activities for both our local kids, teenagers and holiday makers to enjoy and if you must knock down the flyover, build an underpass to replace it. There now that wasn't too difficult was it.
Posted by: collarge, west cliff on 4:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Hay that roads great its like the beginning of a Roller Coaster, lets have a loop the loop in the middle that way you will see all the views and become an attraction as well.
It does sound like they have got bored with trying to sort out the Imax though.
I am more interested in why Goadsby and harding seem to beholding the town to ransom in there high rates, there are so many empty buildings in the town, that company is like everywhere.
Hay that roads great its like the beginning of a Roller Coaster, lets have a loop the loop in the middle that way you will see all the views and become an attraction as well.
It does sound like they have got bored with trying to sort out the Imax though.
I am more interested in why Goadsby and harding seem to beholding the town to ransom in there high rates, there are so many empty buildings in the town, that company is like everywhere.
Posted by: Danny, Southbourne on 5:05pm Thu 7 Aug 08
This is an important road link to loose it would cause traffic chaos all round the town centre area to improve the view all thats needed is to demolish the IMAX
This is an important road link to loose it would cause traffic chaos all round the town centre area to improve the view all thats needed is to demolish the IMAX
Posted by: Ted, Bournemouth on 5:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08
If this happens there would be mega traffic increase on the feeder roads east west including Bourne Ave and Branksome Wood Rd. Must state this as I live along there!!
If this happens there would be mega traffic increase on the feeder roads east west including Bourne Ave and Branksome Wood Rd. Must state this as I live along there!!
Posted by: Stephanie Vincent, Muscliffe on 5:25pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Going back to how the town was is now impossible.There is only two main ways in and out of the town centre, and the flyover has to stay.Perhaps after demolishing the great building of the Pier Approach swimming pool, the council have learnt their lesson. Stop pulling down, start building up.Ice rink, bus station, swimming pool. then go from there.
Going back to how the town was is now impossible.There is only two main ways in and out of the town centre, and the flyover has to stay.Perhaps after demolishing the great building of the Pier Approach swimming pool, the council have learnt their lesson. Stop pulling down, start building up.Ice rink, bus station, swimming pool. then go from there.
Posted by: Ted, Bournemouth on 6:03pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote]The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road.[/quote] Have a look at this old postcard of the Baths. Didn't they also block the view to some extent? http://cgi.ebay.co.u
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The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road.
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Posted by: henry, bournemouth on 6:19pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Restore the outstanding view over Poole Bay when descending Bath Hill - Demolishing the Imax building is a good start.
Restore the outstanding view over Poole Bay when descending Bath Hill - Demolishing the Imax building is a good start.
Posted by: mad dog, Ogdenville on 6:32pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Firstly, let's for the love of God stop going on about ice rinks. I don't see the private sector chomping at the bit to bring one to the town, and of all the things the council could subsidise it shouldn't be a room full of frozen water.
Bournemouth does seem pretty keen on 'masterplans' and 'visions' for the town centre...I can recall something similar about 2 years ago, and then there is the DTZ masterplan from earlier in the decade.
Bournemouth does need to keep thinking about how it improves as both a 'destination' and a place to live, but I'm not sure how helpful it is repeatedly issuing new artists impressions of this and that, and raising expectations e.g. the Triangle was meant to become a piazza in one old masterplan, but there was never the cash to implement this.
The flyover is never going to go, no administration would ever risk the backlash from Bournemouth's car-wedded commuters, but hopefully the consultants have included some realistic and affordable proposals.
Firstly, let's for the love of God stop going on about ice rinks. I don't see the private sector chomping at the bit to bring one to the town, and of all the things the council could subsidise it shouldn't be a room full of frozen water.
Bournemouth does seem pretty keen on 'masterplans' and 'visions' for the town centre...I can recall something similar about 2 years ago, and then there is the DTZ masterplan from earlier in the decade.
Bournemouth does need to keep thinking about how it improves as both a 'destination' and a place to live, but I'm not sure how helpful it is repeatedly issuing new artists impressions of this and that, and raising expectations e.g. the Triangle was meant to become a piazza in one old masterplan, but there was never the cash to implement this.
The flyover is never going to go, no administration would ever risk the backlash from Bournemouth's car-wedded commuters, but hopefully the consultants have included some realistic and affordable proposals.
Posted by: Richard, Bournemouth on 7:21pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed. Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach). [/quote] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
John wrote:
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed. Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach).
Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Posted by: Nixtrix_afcb, Sheffield on 7:22pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Whenare we getting the much promised and needed ice rink, (at least promised when the last rink became a gala bingo hall). Isn't it about time the idiots in charge of the council realised people need more than cinemas to entertain them.
Whenare we getting the much promised and needed ice rink, (at least promised when the last rink became a gala bingo hall). Isn't it about time the idiots in charge of the council realised people need more than cinemas to entertain them.
Posted by: Big Rich, Ferndown on 7:54pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Richard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed. Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach). [/quote] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
[/quote] 'EVERYONE' goes on about it as it is an eyesaw as it has wrecked the views to the Purbecks. Just because something was there before does it mean we have to have something now?
Its a great view or do you prefer looking at the IMAX. Your entitled to your opinion. But as you state by using the word 'EVERYONE' even you admit your thoughts are in a minority. Never met a single person who thought that was a great idea.
Just a few councillors at the time who lined there pockets. Perhaps someone would be generous enough to line the new lots pockets by pulling it down.
At least that would be a bribe well spent.
Richard wrote:
John wrote:
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road. If the flyover is demolished, then there will in any case be no road to see the view of the main part of Bournemouth seafront and the IMAX may just as well stay. This should be proof enough alone of the need to retain the flyover; not to mention the traffic problems caused throughout the rest of town if this route were closed. Nor do we so much need more expensive and exclusive Alfresco dining areas as perhaps AlfGarnett eating areas that families and pensioners can actually afford to eat in when they are enjoying a day at the seaside (especially as so often the English weather drives them off the beach).
Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
'EVERYONE' goes on about it as it is an eyesaw as it has wrecked the views to the Purbecks. Just because something was there before does it mean we have to have something now?
Its a great view or do you prefer looking at the IMAX. Your entitled to your opinion. But as you state by using the word 'EVERYONE' even you admit your thoughts are in a minority. Never met a single person who thought that was a great idea.
Just a few councillors at the time who lined there pockets. Perhaps someone would be generous enough to line the new lots pockets by pulling it down.
At least that would be a bribe well spent.
Posted by: HAL101, Bournemouth on 8:04pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ted[/bold] wrote:
[quote]The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road.[/quote] Have a look at this old postcard of the Baths. Didn't they also block the view to some extent? http://cgi.ebay.co.u k/Real-Photo-PC-Earl y-Motors-cars-outsid e-New-Baths_W0QQitem Z110276765842QQcmdZV iewItem?hash=item110 276765842&_trkparms= 72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C6 6%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trk sid=p3911.c0.m14.l13 18[/quote] I managed with some difficulty to get the link to work. It was well worth while! What a differences the years have made, we are so congested now.
Ted wrote:
The main problem with the IMAX has always been that it blocks out the views across Poole Bay as you drive down Bath Road.
Have a look at this old postcard of the Baths. Didn't they also block the view to some extent? http://cgi.ebay.co.u k/Real-Photo-PC-Earl y-Motors-cars-outsid e-New-Baths_W0QQitem Z110276765842QQcmdZV iewItem?hash=item110 276765842&_trkparms= 72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C6 6%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trk sid=p3911.c0.m14.l13 18
I managed with some difficulty to get the link to work. It was well worth while! What a differences the years have made, we are so congested now.
Posted by: extabi, Bahamas on 8:15pm Thu 7 Aug 08
I thing the council should close the town completely to all traffic and set up a schema of tram lines and use trams around the town like they do in San Francisco area. Buy Cutting the town to traffic completely would save the council millions and thus council could use all its car parks for private development to complete the government targets of development of housing as then they will have the land available to succeed in completing the amount of housing they so need. If that in directly affect he IMAX Cinema were it does not take as much money in time and then has to close then it is a good idea to have that demolish and open it up completely so Bournemouth Sea and across the Bay area can once again gain the Big Window of Bournemouth that once we all use to enjoy. This is the best window of all to be able to view Bournemouth from top of Richmond hill. I believe that is Bournemouth greatest asset. Without the Imax.
I thing the council should close the town completely to all traffic and set up a schema of tram lines and use trams around the town like they do in San Francisco area. Buy Cutting the town to traffic completely would save the council millions and thus council could use all its car parks for private development to complete the government targets of development of housing as then they will have the land available to succeed in completing the amount of housing they so need. If that in directly affect he IMAX Cinema were it does not take as much money in time and then has to close then it is a good idea to have that demolish and open it up completely so Bournemouth Sea and across the Bay area can once again gain the Big Window of Bournemouth that once we all use to enjoy. This is the best window of all to be able to view Bournemouth from top of Richmond hill. I believe that is Bournemouth greatest asset. Without the Imax.
Posted by: henry, bournemouth on 8:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 8:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Here's an idea.....Demolish the grotesque Imax, as already mentioned by many other people on this forum. Then demolish the monstrous concrete eyesore that looms right across the sea front. Finally ban all motorized vehicles, apart from emergency, delivery, and the odd open topped seaside bus.....What a breath of fresh air that would bring to this lovely old seaside town, which has unfortunately become in recent years a mere shadow of it's former glory. Alas !!!, however, it is just a Pipe dream. We would also need to demolish many of the ugly blocks of tacky looking flats that have sprung up in recent years. Close down the "Dens of Iniquity" and rid the streets of the drunken "waifs & strays".....
A lovely thought !!!
Here's an idea.....Demolish the grotesque Imax, as already mentioned by many other people on this forum. Then demolish the monstrous concrete eyesore that looms right across the sea front. Finally ban all motorized vehicles, apart from emergency, delivery, and the odd open topped seaside bus.....What a breath of fresh air that would bring to this lovely old seaside town, which has unfortunately become in recent years a mere shadow of it's former glory. Alas !!!, however, it is just a Pipe dream. We would also need to demolish many of the ugly blocks of tacky looking flats that have sprung up in recent years. Close down the "Dens of Iniquity" and rid the streets of the drunken "waifs & strays".....
A lovely thought !!!
Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 8:53pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
henry wrote:
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 8:57pm Thu 7 Aug 08
Posted by: APMF, bournemouth on 4:22pm today
[bold]Quote [/bold] I remember coming down Bath Hill on the bus to the spectacular views.The building where the Imax now stands used to be an olympic size swimming pool with diving boards and I spent half of my teenage life there,
Now there is no where to swim in the town centre, no where for teenagers to go.
[bold]Reply [/bold] Yes [bold]APMF[/bold] it was a beautiful and very [bold]useful[/bold] place to visit and use.
[italic]I don't believe[/italic] Town Councillors [bold]care a dam[/bold] about teenagers or children, all they care about is [bold]build, build, build.[/bold]
[italic]Then they wonder why[/italic] youngsters get [bold]bored[/bold] and get into [bold]trouble[/bold] , [italic]is it any wonder?[/italic]
Posted by: APMF, bournemouth on 4:22pm today
Quote I remember coming down Bath Hill on the bus to the spectacular views.The building where the Imax now stands used to be an olympic size swimming pool with diving boards and I spent half of my teenage life there,
Now there is no where to swim in the town centre, no where for teenagers to go.
Reply Yes
APMF it was a beautiful and very
useful place to visit and use.
I don't believe Town Councillors
care a dam about teenagers or children, all they care about is
build, build, build.
Then they wonder why youngsters get
bored and get into
trouble ,
is it any wonder?
Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 9:02pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
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Nighthawk wrote:
henry wrote:
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
http://society.guard
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65558,00.html
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Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 9:09pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.[/quote] http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
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[/quote] Third time lucky......
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Nighthawk wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
henry wrote:
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please try this if the above link fails to work.
Third time lucky......
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Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 9:20pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.[/quote] http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
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[/quote] Third time lucky......
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Nighthawk wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
henry wrote:
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please try this if the above link fails to work.
Third time lucky......
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Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 9:20pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.[/quote] http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please try this if the above link fails to work.
Nighthawk wrote:
henry wrote:
RICHARD: Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it
Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.
The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please try this if the above link fails to work.
Posted by: Nighthawk, Bournemouth on 9:20pm Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nighthawk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]henry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RICHARD:[/bold] Why does everyone keep harping on about the veiws over poole bay being bloked by the Imax complex these veiws used to be blocked by the Pier Approach baths which the council knocked down and replaced with the wave pool in the BIC which no longer exists. We vote them in they do as they please give the Imax complex a face lift bring back the trams, just do something to make Bournemouth Fun again something for all the age groups not small groups of it[/quote] Because the view of Poole Bay just takes you aback.. Just imagine arriving by train or car and descending Bath Hill. I think the Pier Approach Baths were situated where the car park is, not the Imax building and was set back.[/quote] The old Pier Approach Baths were also located in a far more attractive building. The Imax has only one claim to fame, and that is being nominated the third ugliest building in the UK by Channel 4 for its Demolition programme, a series about bad architecture, which was screened from 12/12/2005 for 10 weeks.
In first place was the City of Hull, and in second place :- Cumbernauld Shopping Centre which was the centrepiece of an awarding-winning 1960s new town near Glasgow. It is largely now abandoned, just like the IMAX....
http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
Please have a look at this link....Included is Bournemouth's Ugly Imax.[/quote] http://society.guard
ian.co.uk/gall/0,,16
65558,00.html
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Nighthawk wrote:
henry wrote:
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