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Two rescued from sea after drinking
HOT weather, alcohol and the headlong rush to the seaside led to a rash of emergency incidents on the South Coast during the weekend.
A young couple had to be rescued and treated by paramedics after they drunkenly took to the sea near Poole in a dinghy without any oars early yesterday.
A female friend alerted the Coastguard at 3am after her friends, a 20-year-old man and an 18-year-old woman, set off in the white wooden dinghy from Studland Beach.
In the darkness, the friend became scared for their safety after she lost sight of them.
Two lifeboats from Swanage launched a search for the pair, who had been drinking heavily and had set up to sleep on the beach during the night, according to the Coastguard.
The pair were rescued at 4am after another group heard shouting coming from the sea and a lifeboat found the couple both in the water with the dinghy having sunk.
Both were treated by an ambulance staff. The woman was taken to hospital slipping in and out of consciousness.
Bruce Lack, watch manager at Portland Coastguard said: "Drink and stupidity played major parts in this incident with the two young people in serious danger of losing their lives as a result.
"From taking a boat with no oars to having no lifejackets or means of communication in the darkness in open sea is sheer madness fuelled by drink and bravado.
"We cannot stress enough how dangerous this kind of game can be."
10:20am Monday 12th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: JLC, here on 10:33am Mon 12 May 08
I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced?
On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.
I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced?
On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 11:28am Mon 12 May 08
I was down there yesterday as well and agree with the sentiments about being british. The language was really bad (and loud), they were inconsiderate, genetals were flashed by drunk 20 somethings, few could be bothered to use the toilets and when they'd finished they left all their rubbish and empties. The only groups I saw who had been drinking but caused no bother and picked up all their rubbish were foreign. I hate sounding like an old man but it was shameful.
I was down there yesterday as well and agree with the sentiments about being british. The language was really bad (and loud), they were inconsiderate, genetals were flashed by drunk 20 somethings, few could be bothered to use the toilets and when they'd finished they left all their rubbish and empties. The only groups I saw who had been drinking but caused no bother and picked up all their rubbish were foreign. I hate sounding like an old man but it was shameful.
Posted by: Geoff, Kinson on 11:32am Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]JLC[/bold] wrote:
I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced? On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.[/quote] I agree with you JLC-wherever you seem to go nowadays there is the Stella in hand crew ! I think you will find "No Alcohol" bans are not enforcable-well they are not on our Local Nature Reserve anyway !
I do think that idiots such as those reported as drunk in the dinghy should have to pay for the costs of the rescue services.
JLC wrote:
I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced? On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.
I agree with you JLC-wherever you seem to go nowadays there is the Stella in hand crew ! I think you will find "No Alcohol" bans are not enforcable-well they are not on our Local Nature Reserve anyway !
I do think that idiots such as those reported as drunk in the dinghy should have to pay for the costs of the rescue services.
Posted by: michael carpenter, BOSCOMBE on 11:47am Mon 12 May 08
I HOPE THAT THE IDIOTS WHO TOOK THE BOAT WILL RECIVE THE BILL FOR THEIR RESCUE. AS WELL AS BEING CHARGED BY THE POLICE WITH BEING DRUNK IN-CHARGE OF THE BOAT. BUT NOING THE POLICE THEY WILL GET OFF WITH A TICKING OFF AND THATS THE END OF THE MATTER(TILL THE NEXT TIME).
I HOPE THAT THE IDIOTS WHO TOOK THE BOAT WILL RECIVE THE BILL FOR THEIR RESCUE. AS WELL AS BEING CHARGED BY THE POLICE WITH BEING DRUNK IN-CHARGE OF THE BOAT. BUT NOING THE POLICE THEY WILL GET OFF WITH A TICKING OFF AND THATS THE END OF THE MATTER(TILL THE NEXT TIME).
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 11:48am Mon 12 May 08
I thought there was a ruling that it was illegal to drink in public places, the beach being one. May be I have not read it right. It should be anyway. Alcohol and sun heat do not mix very well anyway, and in the case of the two people in the story and any others who take out boats, is totally stupid.
Personally, I think the laws on taking boats to sea, should be upgraded, licensed, MOTd, and all owners of boats tested.
I know you will get the idiots like in the story, but it would reduce the number of problems and call outs for our overworked RNLI and Coastguard Services.
It is crazy the way some handle boats. If they handled a car like it, they would be in deep trouble. Believe it or not the sea has a high way code, but no one uses it.
I thought there was a ruling that it was illegal to drink in public places, the beach being one. May be I have not read it right. It should be anyway. Alcohol and sun heat do not mix very well anyway, and in the case of the two people in the story and any others who take out boats, is totally stupid.
Personally, I think the laws on taking boats to sea, should be upgraded, licensed, MOTd, and all owners of boats tested.
I know you will get the idiots like in the story, but it would reduce the number of problems and call outs for our overworked RNLI and Coastguard Services.
It is crazy the way some handle boats. If they handled a car like it, they would be in deep trouble. Believe it or not the sea has a high way code, but no one uses it.
Posted by: rfraser3, Bournemouth on 12:41pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Geoff[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]JLC[/bold] wrote: I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced? On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.[/quote] I agree with you JLC-wherever you seem to go nowadays there is the Stella in hand crew ! I think you will find "No Alcohol" bans are not enforcable-well they are not on our Local Nature Reserve anyway ! I do think that idiots such as those reported as drunk in the dinghy should have to pay for the costs of the rescue services.[/quote] Totally agree on all points. Action should be taken against all people found drunk in public places. I cant really see a problem where folk just limit themselves to "just the one" though!
Geoff wrote:
JLC wrote: I went to the beach on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of people boozing. Do we really need to sit around necking cans of Stella in the sunshine? It made me feel embarrassed to be British. You wouldn’t get that in any other country. Surely it’s illegal to be drinking tins of ber on the beach. Why isn’t it enforced? On a happier note, I did see a girl with some great cans.
I agree with you JLC-wherever you seem to go nowadays there is the Stella in hand crew ! I think you will find "No Alcohol" bans are not enforcable-well they are not on our Local Nature Reserve anyway ! I do think that idiots such as those reported as drunk in the dinghy should have to pay for the costs of the rescue services.
Totally agree on all points. Action should be taken against all people found drunk in public places. I cant really see a problem where folk just limit themselves to "just the one" though!
Posted by: Adrian X, Poole on 12:45pm Mon 12 May 08
I don't mind people boozing if they keep quiet, don't act in a threatening way and don't leave litter.
I don't believe that you can blame alcohol entirely for bad behaviour. It is the personality beneath that is at fault. Fewer and fewer people seem to be able to take their drink.
I don't mind people boozing if they keep quiet, don't act in a threatening way and don't leave litter.
I don't believe that you can blame alcohol entirely for bad behaviour. It is the personality beneath that is at fault. Fewer and fewer people seem to be able to take their drink.
Posted by: patrick stack, downmoor.ch on 12:49pm Mon 12 May 08
WELL SAID MICHAEL CARPENTER OF BOSCOMBE, I QUITE AGREE WITH YOU, PAY FOR THE RESCUE SERVICES AND TOP IT WITH A VISIT TO THE COURT AND PRESENT THEM WITH A FOUR FIGURE FINE.
WELL SAID MICHAEL CARPENTER OF BOSCOMBE, I QUITE AGREE WITH YOU, PAY FOR THE RESCUE SERVICES AND TOP IT WITH A VISIT TO THE COURT AND PRESENT THEM WITH A FOUR FIGURE FINE.
Posted by: Tig, Poole on 1:38pm Mon 12 May 08
What about the boat? Did they bring it with them or steal it? If it's the latter, then they should pay for that as well.
What about the boat? Did they bring it with them or steal it? If it's the latter, then they should pay for that as well.
Posted by: JLC, here on 1:49pm Mon 12 May 08
Why doesn't the Echo start a decent worthwhile campaign for once. How about banning booze from the beach?
Why doesn't the Echo start a decent worthwhile campaign for once. How about banning booze from the beach?
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 1:52pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Adrian X[/bold] wrote:
I don't mind people boozing if they keep quiet, don't act in a threatening way and don't leave litter. I don't believe that you can blame alcohol entirely for bad behaviour. It is the personality beneath that is at fault. Fewer and fewer people seem to be able to take their drink. [/quote] unfortunately it all goes hand in hand booze and bad manners soon we will not able to go anywhere for fear of drunks ( and yes I do drink but only indoors or the pub and only in moderation) they should be charged for the services sent out to rescue them
Adrian X wrote:
I don't mind people boozing if they keep quiet, don't act in a threatening way and don't leave litter. I don't believe that you can blame alcohol entirely for bad behaviour. It is the personality beneath that is at fault. Fewer and fewer people seem to be able to take their drink.
unfortunately it all goes hand in hand booze and bad manners soon we will not able to go anywhere for fear of drunks ( and yes I do drink but only indoors or the pub and only in moderation) they should be charged for the services sent out to rescue them
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 2:18pm Mon 12 May 08
So what you're saying is because of the actions of "youngsters", who don't give a ****, all of us who want to use the beach or beach huts cannot have a glass of wine with our food? So we get punished for their behaviour? Hardly seems fair. Some people can drink, behave and generally be pleasant citizens. But to hell with us, alcohol is evil and therefore as is any one who enjoys it by association
So what you're saying is because of the actions of "youngsters", who don't give a ****, all of us who want to use the beach or beach huts cannot have a glass of wine with our food? So we get punished for their behaviour? Hardly seems fair. Some people can drink, behave and generally be pleasant citizens. But to hell with us, alcohol is evil and therefore as is any one who enjoys it by association
Posted by: Maria, christchurch on 2:23pm Mon 12 May 08
I took my children to the beach yesterday and we had a group of teenagers turn up and sit next to us. Didn't mind the noise, but do object to the swearing, especialy as I am trying to bring my children up with some manners. Last time I posted a comment on this site about swearing, I was shot down in flames as the general consensus was that everybody does it and it's not harming anyone. Well I for one don't do it and I beleive it is bad manners, which is why we are turning into a nation of inconsiderate louts.
I took my children to the beach yesterday and we had a group of teenagers turn up and sit next to us. Didn't mind the noise, but do object to the swearing, especialy as I am trying to bring my children up with some manners. Last time I posted a comment on this site about swearing, I was shot down in flames as the general consensus was that everybody does it and it's not harming anyone. Well I for one don't do it and I beleive it is bad manners, which is why we are turning into a nation of inconsiderate louts.
Posted by: JLC, here on 2:36pm Mon 12 May 08
No - What I am saying is that about one in every ten people on the beach on Sunday were drinking cans of Stella. The very sight of that makes Bournemouth seem uncivilised, rough, cheap, nasty, dirty...choose your adjective!
It honestly makes me disgusted to be British. No other country in the world would allow it. What is the mentality of these pasty yobs sitting on the beach all day drinking lager? There just isn't any need!
It's simple. Ban booze from the beach. You want a glas of wine, go to one of the bars.
No - What I am saying is that about one in every ten people on the beach on Sunday were drinking cans of Stella. The very sight of that makes Bournemouth seem uncivilised, rough, cheap, nasty, dirty...choose your adjective!
It honestly makes me disgusted to be British. No other country in the world would allow it. What is the mentality of these pasty yobs sitting on the beach all day drinking lager? There just isn't any need!
It's simple. Ban booze from the beach. You want a glas of wine, go to one of the bars.
Posted by: Maria, christchurch on 2:47pm Mon 12 May 08
Totaly agree, ban the drinking on the beaches. I love a glass of wine or three, but in the right place at the right time. These yobs sit drinking all day, getting rowdier and rowdier. On our holidays abroad I cringe when I see our lager lout offspring,How many other nations do you see acting the same.
Totaly agree, ban the drinking on the beaches. I love a glass of wine or three, but in the right place at the right time. These yobs sit drinking all day, getting rowdier and rowdier. On our holidays abroad I cringe when I see our lager lout offspring,How many other nations do you see acting the same.
Posted by: debbie2110, bournemouth on 2:55pm Mon 12 May 08
I agree with all of you who say these idiots should have to pay for their rescue, and indeed be fined for their actions in taking a boat out when drunk. It is about time that all vehicles land, sea and air were treated in a uniform way in regard to drink, competence, insurance etc. I’ve long been of the opinion that anyone who’s actions lead to them requiring rescue (mountain climbers, jet skiers, unqualified and uninsured sailors to name a few) should pay for their rescue or at least contribute.
As for banning drinking on the beach, sorry guys, not with you on this. Why penalise good and well behaved people who might want to have a couple of glasses of Pimms or champagne with canapé’s on the beach because of a handful of idiots who spoil things for the masses wherever they go? Point of law is that it is an offence to be drunk and disorderly in a public place as per the inebriates’ act of 1898 sections 34 & 36 as incorporated in the 2003-licensing act. This enables individuals to make a complaint to the police and empowers police to remove, charge and ultimately for the courts to punish these individuals.
Sadly red tape and under funded police forces mean that members of the public are reluctant to complain and police have to make judgement on whether it’s a good use of police time and effort to enforce this part of the law.
It’s not drinking on the beach or anywhere else in the country that’s the problem it’s the fact that so many ‘yobs’ get drunk and abusive and the law is not adequately enforced. These are the same low-life scum that perceive the law to be toothless and irrelevant to them and go on to commit so many other ‘petty’ crimes like speeding in residential areas, drink driving, assaults and tax fraud. ZERO TOLERANCE TIME IS NIGH! Bring on the party brave enough to fund this!
I agree with all of you who say these idiots should have to pay for their rescue, and indeed be fined for their actions in taking a boat out when drunk. It is about time that all vehicles land, sea and air were treated in a uniform way in regard to drink, competence, insurance etc. I’ve long been of the opinion that anyone who’s actions lead to them requiring rescue (mountain climbers, jet skiers, unqualified and uninsured sailors to name a few) should pay for their rescue or at least contribute.
As for banning drinking on the beach, sorry guys, not with you on this. Why penalise good and well behaved people who might want to have a couple of glasses of Pimms or champagne with canapé’s on the beach because of a handful of idiots who spoil things for the masses wherever they go? Point of law is that it is an offence to be drunk and disorderly in a public place as per the inebriates’ act of 1898 sections 34 & 36 as incorporated in the 2003-licensing act. This enables individuals to make a complaint to the police and empowers police to remove, charge and ultimately for the courts to punish these individuals.
Sadly red tape and under funded police forces mean that members of the public are reluctant to complain and police have to make judgement on whether it’s a good use of police time and effort to enforce this part of the law.
It’s not drinking on the beach or anywhere else in the country that’s the problem it’s the fact that so many ‘yobs’ get drunk and abusive and the law is not adequately enforced. These are the same low-life scum that perceive the law to be toothless and irrelevant to them and go on to commit so many other ‘petty’ crimes like speeding in residential areas, drink driving, assaults and tax fraud. ZERO TOLERANCE TIME IS NIGH! Bring on the party brave enough to fund this!
Posted by: jamesington, wimborne on 3:59pm Mon 12 May 08
I know both these people they are both great but syndy
I know both these people they are both great but syndy
Posted by: fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown on 4:21pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Jonny[/bold] wrote:
I was down there yesterday as well and agree with the sentiments about being british. The language was really bad (and loud), they were inconsiderate, genetals were flashed by drunk 20 somethings, few could be bothered to use the toilets and when they'd finished they left all their rubbish and empties. The only groups I saw who had been drinking but caused no bother and picked up all their rubbish were foreign. I hate sounding like an old man but it was shameful. [/quote] I agree.
If CCTV can be used to prosecute people who drop litter in town, why is it not used to prosecute those who leave their trash on the beach?
Jonny wrote:
I was down there yesterday as well and agree with the sentiments about being british. The language was really bad (and loud), they were inconsiderate, genetals were flashed by drunk 20 somethings, few could be bothered to use the toilets and when they'd finished they left all their rubbish and empties. The only groups I saw who had been drinking but caused no bother and picked up all their rubbish were foreign. I hate sounding like an old man but it was shameful.
I agree.
If CCTV can be used to prosecute people who drop litter in town, why is it not used to prosecute those who leave their trash on the beach?
Posted by: dean3020 on 4:42pm Mon 12 May 08
for goodness sake stop your whinging. this is a liberal democracy, we are free to act as we please within the law- be thankful for that and enjoy some beer on the beach. we've got 7 miles in Bournemouth alone-just move somewhere else if you don't like it
for goodness sake stop your whinging. this is a liberal democracy, we are free to act as we please within the law- be thankful for that and enjoy some beer on the beach. we've got 7 miles in Bournemouth alone-just move somewhere else if you don't like it
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 4:55pm Mon 12 May 08
dean 3020. Would love to have moved, unfortunately as we were with friends at their beach hut this was impossible. But love your attempts to condone the behaviour of truly foul mouthed people (and I'm no prude) yelling, fighting, throwing/kicking their balls etc at other people because its funny, making offensive sexual remarks to young girls and then walking away leaving piles and piles of their rubbish says an awful lot about you I suggest.
dean 3020. Would love to have moved, unfortunately as we were with friends at their beach hut this was impossible. But love your attempts to condone the behaviour of truly foul mouthed people (and I'm no prude) yelling, fighting, throwing/kicking their balls etc at other people because its funny, making offensive sexual remarks to young girls and then walking away leaving piles and piles of their rubbish says an awful lot about you I suggest.
Posted by: dean3020 on 5:14pm Mon 12 May 08
i don't condone leaving litter or offending others at all- but drinking on the beach should be perfectly legal. it is possible to drink and not act like an idiot
i don't condone leaving litter or offending others at all- but drinking on the beach should be perfectly legal. it is possible to drink and not act like an idiot
Posted by: Jonny, Alum Chine on 5:22pm Mon 12 May 08
Which is what I said in earlier postings.
But when you wrote "we are free to act as we please" and "just move somewhere else if you don't like it" meant that you did not come across as saying that. I was stuck yesterday and could not move due to circumstance and I guess other people are in the same boat and I am totally against banning alcohol just would like to see a bit more authority down there because the reality is people are acting as they please, unfortunately. If they haven't got the decency to have even a small amount of consideration or respect for others/the environment then maybe they should be shown the errors of their ways and in a way where they will feel it and have to take notice -on the spot fines.
Which is what I said in earlier postings.
But when you wrote "we are free to act as we please" and "just move somewhere else if you don't like it" meant that you did not come across as saying that. I was stuck yesterday and could not move due to circumstance and I guess other people are in the same boat and I am totally against banning alcohol just would like to see a bit more authority down there because the reality is people are acting as they please, unfortunately. If they haven't got the decency to have even a small amount of consideration or respect for others/the environment then maybe they should be shown the errors of their ways and in a way where they will feel it and have to take notice -on the spot fines.
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 8:26pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Maria[/bold] wrote:
I took my children to the beach yesterday and we had a group of teenagers turn up and sit next to us. Didn't mind the noise, but do object to the swearing, especialy as I am trying to bring my children up with some manners. Last time I posted a comment on this site about swearing, I was shot down in flames as the general consensus was that everybody does it and it's not harming anyone. Well I for one don't do it and I beleive it is bad manners, which is why we are turning into a nation of inconsiderate louts.[/quote] you are not alone I object to the swearing in front of the children I wont pretend I don't swear but certainly not anywhere it would offend anyone
As for Jonny of Alum Chine I dont think alcohol should be bannned but I do understand that if there is a gang of drunken people in close proximity it can be at the least annoying at worst scary I sincerely hope it doesnt become the norm anywhere on our lovely beaches
Maria wrote:
I took my children to the beach yesterday and we had a group of teenagers turn up and sit next to us. Didn't mind the noise, but do object to the swearing, especialy as I am trying to bring my children up with some manners. Last time I posted a comment on this site about swearing, I was shot down in flames as the general consensus was that everybody does it and it's not harming anyone. Well I for one don't do it and I beleive it is bad manners, which is why we are turning into a nation of inconsiderate louts.
you are not alone I object to the swearing in front of the children I wont pretend I don't swear but certainly not anywhere it would offend anyone
As for Jonny of Alum Chine I dont think alcohol should be bannned but I do understand that if there is a gang of drunken people in close proximity it can be at the least annoying at worst scary I sincerely hope it doesnt become the norm anywhere on our lovely beaches
Posted by: scorpio3, dorset on 11:03pm Mon 12 May 08
Why not have separate beaches...drunken youths one end... families in the middle and peaceful people at the other end...(there sorted )
Why not have separate beaches...drunken youths one end... families in the middle and peaceful people at the other end...(there sorted )
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 10:21am Thu 15 May 08
[quote][bold]dean3020[/bold] wrote:
for goodness sake stop your whinging. this is a liberal democracy, we are free to act as we please within the law- be thankful for that and enjoy some beer on the beach. we've got 7 miles in Bournemouth alone-just move somewhere else if you don't like it[/quote] Like you say: "within the Law"! Several Laws and By-Laws appear to be infringed in this discussion.
I thought there was a smoking ban on beaches. Where is the enforcement on that?
With regard to consumption of alcohol in public places, there are areas of the town where this is prohibited and, in any case, the Police have the power to sieze alcohol from anyone who appears to be intoxicated (or underage) in ANY public place.
Litter in a public place (which includes the beach) is a chargeable offence, so why are these people not prosecuted?
Come to Poole, "It's a beautiful place"! (Although there will always be an unruly element, wherever you go).
dean3020 wrote:
for goodness sake stop your whinging. this is a liberal democracy, we are free to act as we please within the law- be thankful for that and enjoy some beer on the beach. we've got 7 miles in Bournemouth alone-just move somewhere else if you don't like it
Like you say: "within the Law"! Several Laws and By-Laws appear to be infringed in this discussion.
I thought there was a smoking ban on beaches. Where is the enforcement on that?
With regard to consumption of alcohol in public places, there are areas of the town where this is prohibited and, in any case, the Police have the power to sieze alcohol from anyone who appears to be intoxicated (or underage) in ANY public place.
Litter in a public place (which includes the beach) is a chargeable offence, so why are these people not prosecuted?
Come to Poole, "It's a beautiful place"! (Although there will always be an unruly element, wherever you go).
Posted by: silky, Bournemouth on 10:10pm Thu 15 May 08
What shall we do with the drunken sailor?
What shall we do with the drunken sailor?
Posted by: silky, Bournemouth on 10:11pm Thu 15 May 08
What shall we do with the drunken sailor?
What shall we do with the drunken sailor?
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