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AFC Bournemouth: Elliott Ward signs new contract with Cherries

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DEFENDER Elliott Ward singled out Cherries’ swift adaptation to life in the Championship as his primary reason for signing a new contract.

The experienced centre-half, who signed for an initial 12 months from Norwich City over the summer, yesterday agreed terms on a fresh two-and-a-half year deal at Dean Court.

Ward recently returned to the starting line-up having spent six weeks on the sidelines with a pulled calf muscle picked up at Burnley in November.

Before that, the former Nottingham Forest loanee missed just one league match, with Eddie Howe having persuaded the towering presence to sign by sending him a personalised DVD to showcase Cherries’ style of play.

And after experiencing Howe’s mantra for himself over the first half of the season, the 28-year-old centre-half was convinced enough to commit to the club until the summer of 2016.

Ward explained: “When I signed the one-year contract, it was with the view to how things went and I have really enjoyed myself over these first six months.

“It has been good for both me and the club and we have worked well together so far.

“We had a good start and we had to learn quickly with a few results but that was fine. Everything was quite new but, together, I think we have pulled through quite well.

“It was important for me to see how the club worked and how and where they wanted to go to. We have taken some good steps forward this season.

“There is a long way to go but I have really bought into what the club wants to do and how far they want to go. Hopefully, I can be a part of that.”

In addition to 31 appearances across two loan spells at the City Ground last season, Ward boasts a wealth of Championship experience elsewhere, featuring 39 times for Norwich City during their promotion to the Premier League in 2011.

Before that, he racked up more than 100 second-flight matches in four years at Coventry City and has also enjoyed loan spells at Peterborough United, Bristol Rovers, Plymouth Argyle, Doncaster Rovers and Preston North End.

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6:23am Thu 9 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

After Lee Camps signing last week more good news, Elliott has settled in well here and it will be interesting to see who gets shuffled when Cookie is fit again.
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After Lee Camps signing last week more good news, Elliott has settled in well here and it will be interesting to see who gets shuffled when Cookie is fit again. UTC TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: 12

8:25am Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted.

Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :) ianbthomson
  • Score: 3

8:27am Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
After Lee Camps signing last week more good news, Elliott has settled in well here and it will be interesting to see who gets shuffled when Cookie is fit again.
UTC
Ted can you not sleep posting at 6.23 am!!! and I see that you got five (5) thumps up including mine!!!!

Come on you reddddddddds of course we will have to be careful if we get through and play Liverpool!!! they'll think we are shouting for them!!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: After Lee Camps signing last week more good news, Elliott has settled in well here and it will be interesting to see who gets shuffled when Cookie is fit again. UTC[/p][/quote]Ted can you not sleep posting at 6.23 am!!! and I see that you got five (5) thumps up including mine!!!! Come on you reddddddddds of course we will have to be careful if we get through and play Liverpool!!! they'll think we are shouting for them!! nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 0

8:59am Thu 9 Jan 14

bobsworthforever says...

ianbthomson wrote:
Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted.

Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news bobsworthforever
  • Score: 1

9:16am Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted.

Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that.

If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
[quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force. ianbthomson
  • Score: 22

9:50am Thu 9 Jan 14

ben611 says...

ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough! ben611
  • Score: 10

10:06am Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season.

A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose

Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
[quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game? ianbthomson
  • Score: 6

10:17am Thu 9 Jan 14

ChilledCherry says...

Great news that Wardy has signed a contract extension. As he says in the article he only comitted to a year to see how we'd fare in the Championship and I don't blame him - he's a quality player at this level. The fact he's signed shows me that he believes this squad is good enough and is confident we'll stay up this year and push on next year. Excellent stuff.

Also saw the rumours that Joe Roach might be coming back, I wonder if we'll see a story on here today about that?
Great news that Wardy has signed a contract extension. As he says in the article he only comitted to a year to see how we'd fare in the Championship and I don't blame him - he's a quality player at this level. The fact he's signed shows me that he believes this squad is good enough and is confident we'll stay up this year and push on next year. Excellent stuff. Also saw the rumours that Joe Roach might be coming back, I wonder if we'll see a story on here today about that? ChilledCherry
  • Score: 3

10:48am Thu 9 Jan 14

Square Old Codger says...

ChilledCherry wrote:
Great news that Wardy has signed a contract extension. As he says in the article he only comitted to a year to see how we'd fare in the Championship and I don't blame him - he's a quality player at this level. The fact he's signed shows me that he believes this squad is good enough and is confident we'll stay up this year and push on next year. Excellent stuff. Also saw the rumours that Joe Roach might be coming back, I wonder if we'll see a story on here today about that?
I entirely agree, Ward has been a tower of strength in the defence and it's good that he has extended his contract with us. My one criticism of our "wingers" this Season has been too many high crosses and not enough "over the top" and through balls to take full advantage of Rantie and Grabbham's pace, Ritchie the exception, he plays a mean through ball! I do hope that the rumours re Joe Roach's possible appointment as Head of Youth are correct, his committment to the Club is undoubted and he had great results with very limited resources and just before Mitchell's act of nepotism had been named by the FA as being in the top 3 Youth Coaches in the Country - youngsters like Matthews and Carmicheal would thrive in his charge,
[quote][p][bold]ChilledCherry[/bold] wrote: Great news that Wardy has signed a contract extension. As he says in the article he only comitted to a year to see how we'd fare in the Championship and I don't blame him - he's a quality player at this level. The fact he's signed shows me that he believes this squad is good enough and is confident we'll stay up this year and push on next year. Excellent stuff. Also saw the rumours that Joe Roach might be coming back, I wonder if we'll see a story on here today about that?[/p][/quote]I entirely agree, Ward has been a tower of strength in the defence and it's good that he has extended his contract with us. My one criticism of our "wingers" this Season has been too many high crosses and not enough "over the top" and through balls to take full advantage of Rantie and Grabbham's pace, Ritchie the exception, he plays a mean through ball! I do hope that the rumours re Joe Roach's possible appointment as Head of Youth are correct, his committment to the Club is undoubted and he had great results with very limited resources and just before Mitchell's act of nepotism had been named by the FA as being in the top 3 Youth Coaches in the Country - youngsters like Matthews and Carmicheal would thrive in his charge, Square Old Codger
  • Score: 4

11:01am Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season.

A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose

Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about.

However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 2

11:18am Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season.

A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose

Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about.

However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings.

I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option. ianbthomson
  • Score: 1

12:27pm Thu 9 Jan 14

smhinto says...

ianbthomson wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.
Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about.
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On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options.
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I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking.
.
Regards
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.[/p][/quote]Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about. . On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options. . I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking. . Regards smhinto
  • Score: -1

12:45pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything
Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 2

12:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

smhinto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.
Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about.
.
On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options.
.
I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking.
.
Regards
I do feel that a bigger striker would be particularly effective, given the following scenerio:

* We go a goal down
* The team has a big defence in terms of stature and sits back in their lead. As a consequence, the ball "over the top" or killer pass through defence is less effective.

I feel that the Birmingham game was a ideal example of this and whilst a bigger striker would not be the complete fix, it would be another string to our bow.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.[/p][/quote]Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about. . On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options. . I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking. . Regards[/p][/quote]I do feel that a bigger striker would be particularly effective, given the following scenerio: * We go a goal down * The team has a big defence in terms of stature and sits back in their lead. As a consequence, the ball "over the top" or killer pass through defence is less effective. I feel that the Birmingham game was a ideal example of this and whilst a bigger striker would not be the complete fix, it would be another string to our bow. ianbthomson
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Blackandred says...

ianbthomson wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.
If you watch Grabban when we break, he is normally the one who either collects the ball and lays it off or takes the ball down the wing in the first place. Whilst he is good in both roles, it does make it a bit difficult for him to get in the box too. As mentioned by others here, plan A always seems to be to feed the ball down the wings and then get a cross into the box, only to have one red and black shirt in the area - 7 times out of 10 this seems to be the opposite winger and much as I like Fraser, he isn't Salmon at the far post material! We have several players who cross the ball very well, but with just one or two to aim for, the odds are against you. Ritchie and O'Kane have made such a difference in recent weeks with their direct style of play - O'Kane's goal against Yeovil was wonderful attacking play.

If we can make the few improvements to our attacking play from crosses, be it in the system or with a few extra personnel, then we are going to score a lot of goals.
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.[/p][/quote]If you watch Grabban when we break, he is normally the one who either collects the ball and lays it off or takes the ball down the wing in the first place. Whilst he is good in both roles, it does make it a bit difficult for him to get in the box too. As mentioned by others here, plan A always seems to be to feed the ball down the wings and then get a cross into the box, only to have one red and black shirt in the area - 7 times out of 10 this seems to be the opposite winger and much as I like Fraser, he isn't Salmon at the far post material! We have several players who cross the ball very well, but with just one or two to aim for, the odds are against you. Ritchie and O'Kane have made such a difference in recent weeks with their direct style of play - O'Kane's goal against Yeovil was wonderful attacking play. If we can make the few improvements to our attacking play from crosses, be it in the system or with a few extra personnel, then we are going to score a lot of goals. Blackandred
  • Score: 3

1:41pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

JenniferRWright wrote:
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Is there a way of blocking this rubbish Daily Echo????
[quote][p][bold]JenniferRWright[/bold] wrote: I think, I can never earn over which I paid by my precedent employer, but I was wrong, world is so large to try their fate.but now I am making 92 dollar a hour even more, can easily minimum 1755 dollar weekly, on the experience everyone must try to do work online, easy way to earn, here's an example what I do... www.Day37.cℴm[/p][/quote]Is there a way of blocking this rubbish Daily Echo???? ianbthomson
  • Score: 2

2:14pm Thu 9 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment? TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: 1

2:18pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

ianbthomson wrote:
JenniferRWright wrote:
I think, I can never earn over which I paid by my precedent employer, but I was wrong, world is so large to try their fate.but now I am making 92 dollar a hour even more, can easily minimum 1755 dollar weekly, on the experience everyone must try to do work online, easy way to earn, here's an example what I do... www.Day37.cℴm
Is there a way of blocking this rubbish Daily Echo????
I reported it to the Echo couple of times unfortunately they are like those nasty odours they just don't want to go away. There are sad individuals around these with the sole intention to plague the rest
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JenniferRWright[/bold] wrote: I think, I can never earn over which I paid by my precedent employer, but I was wrong, world is so large to try their fate.but now I am making 92 dollar a hour even more, can easily minimum 1755 dollar weekly, on the experience everyone must try to do work online, easy way to earn, here's an example what I do... www.Day37.cℴm[/p][/quote]Is there a way of blocking this rubbish Daily Echo????[/p][/quote]I reported it to the Echo couple of times unfortunately they are like those nasty odours they just don't want to go away. There are sad individuals around these with the sole intention to plague the rest nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 1

2:31pm Thu 9 Jan 14

smhinto says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything
You are right Nonno in that it would not solve everything, but as I have said in my earlier post - a big striker could be used as an OPTION or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about.
.
In addition, as somebody has already stated - a hefty forward could be utilised i.e. when we go a goal down with 20 mins to go and or the opposition has tall central defenders and sits back on their lead or the starting set-up and tactics are not hurting the opposition.
.
I often do this on scouting opposition assessments, the first things I note are the starting formation, noting heights of players and pace in key areas and noting any change in formation during the game i.e. from a 4-4-2 to a 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 etc. Obviously this is passed to the manager I am doing the report for and he sets-up his side accordingly whilst being wary that the oppostion could change their set-up.
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We must always have an option if ones tactics are not hurting the opposition. At the Moment at AFCB we do not have options and have to plough on with one up front so the oppostion will play us out accordingly.
.
We have often gone a goal down and still continued the same way therefore the opposition will then sit back and don't do anything maverick and just see the game out.
.
On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options.
.
Food for thought Gents
.
Regards
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything[/p][/quote]You are right Nonno in that it would not solve everything, but as I have said in my earlier post - a big striker could be used as an OPTION or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about. . In addition, as somebody has already stated - a hefty forward could be utilised i.e. when we go a goal down with 20 mins to go and or the opposition has tall central defenders and sits back on their lead or the starting set-up and tactics are not hurting the opposition. . I often do this on scouting opposition assessments, the first things I note are the starting formation, noting heights of players and pace in key areas and noting any change in formation during the game i.e. from a 4-4-2 to a 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 etc. Obviously this is passed to the manager I am doing the report for and he sets-up his side accordingly whilst being wary that the oppostion could change their set-up. . We must always have an option if ones tactics are not hurting the opposition. At the Moment at AFCB we do not have options and have to plough on with one up front so the oppostion will play us out accordingly. . We have often gone a goal down and still continued the same way therefore the opposition will then sit back and don't do anything maverick and just see the game out. . On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options. . Food for thought Gents . Regards smhinto
  • Score: 8

3:03pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway? Lowe-Ryder
  • Score: 0

3:08pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Court Side says...

I'm a big admirer of Ashley Barnes at Brighton, he has always scored goals for them, does a good job playing up front on his own,( as Brighton like to play), is a big lad,( good in the air, very strong holding the ball up), but can play on the floor aswell. He's unlucky to find himself back on the bench now that Ulloa,( Garcia's favourite), is fit again.
Rumours abound that Burnley are interested in bringing him in if a Prem club comes in for Danny Ings. Now i'm pretty sure that if Burnley can afford to consider buying him then we most certainly can however, as always, it would depend what he wanted wages wise, Brighton are pretty minted and get the crowds to back it up too.
Just putting my two penneth worth in.
I'm a big admirer of Ashley Barnes at Brighton, he has always scored goals for them, does a good job playing up front on his own,( as Brighton like to play), is a big lad,( good in the air, very strong holding the ball up), but can play on the floor aswell. He's unlucky to find himself back on the bench now that Ulloa,( Garcia's favourite), is fit again. Rumours abound that Burnley are interested in bringing him in if a Prem club comes in for Danny Ings. Now i'm pretty sure that if Burnley can afford to consider buying him then we most certainly can however, as always, it would depend what he wanted wages wise, Brighton are pretty minted and get the crowds to back it up too. Just putting my two penneth worth in. Court Side
  • Score: 2

3:18pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

Court Side wrote:
I'm a big admirer of Ashley Barnes at Brighton, he has always scored goals for them, does a good job playing up front on his own,( as Brighton like to play), is a big lad,( good in the air, very strong holding the ball up), but can play on the floor aswell. He's unlucky to find himself back on the bench now that Ulloa,( Garcia's favourite), is fit again.
Rumours abound that Burnley are interested in bringing him in if a Prem club comes in for Danny Ings. Now i'm pretty sure that if Burnley can afford to consider buying him then we most certainly can however, as always, it would depend what he wanted wages wise, Brighton are pretty minted and get the crowds to back it up too.
Just putting my two penneth worth in.
According to Sky, Ashley Barnes is having a medical today with Burnley. Burnley had a £750,000 bid for Barnes rejected by Brighton last week but are now on the verge of completing a deal for the 24-year-old, who was also being watched by Leeds United.

http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11095/9107903/?

Unfortunately, the signing of Rantie has not worked out on two fronts. Whereby he has not been a success and we have spent a lot of money on him, which must have restricted our options somewhat in terms of splashing out again :(
[quote][p][bold]Court Side[/bold] wrote: I'm a big admirer of Ashley Barnes at Brighton, he has always scored goals for them, does a good job playing up front on his own,( as Brighton like to play), is a big lad,( good in the air, very strong holding the ball up), but can play on the floor aswell. He's unlucky to find himself back on the bench now that Ulloa,( Garcia's favourite), is fit again. Rumours abound that Burnley are interested in bringing him in if a Prem club comes in for Danny Ings. Now i'm pretty sure that if Burnley can afford to consider buying him then we most certainly can however, as always, it would depend what he wanted wages wise, Brighton are pretty minted and get the crowds to back it up too. Just putting my two penneth worth in.[/p][/quote]According to Sky, Ashley Barnes is having a medical today with Burnley. Burnley had a £750,000 bid for Barnes rejected by Brighton last week but are now on the verge of completing a deal for the 24-year-old, who was also being watched by Leeds United. http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11095/9107903/? Unfortunately, the signing of Rantie has not worked out on two fronts. Whereby he has not been a success and we have spent a lot of money on him, which must have restricted our options somewhat in terms of splashing out again :( ianbthomson
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Thu 9 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
[quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb. TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/2014_Africa
n_Nations_Championsh
ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he?? ianbthomson
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/2014_Africa

n_Nations_Championsh

ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia:

"All players are locally based, as required by competition rules."

In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia: "All players are locally based, as required by competition rules." In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa... Lowe-Ryder
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

Lowe-Ryder wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/2014_Africa


n_Nations_Championsh


ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia:

"All players are locally based, as required by competition rules."

In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...
Oh, well lets hope he is in the squad for Burton and he bangs a couple in to win the game!!

I would absolutely love to see him be a success as he seems a lovely bloke. It is just like many of us, I am disappointed that so much money has been invested, given the size of our club without any real return to date.
[quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia: "All players are locally based, as required by competition rules." In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...[/p][/quote]Oh, well lets hope he is in the squad for Burton and he bangs a couple in to win the game!! I would absolutely love to see him be a success as he seems a lovely bloke. It is just like many of us, I am disappointed that so much money has been invested, given the size of our club without any real return to date. ianbthomson
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Thu 9 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go.......

We’ll miss his goals!!??

I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century!
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go....... We’ll miss his goals!!?? I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century! TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: -1

3:44pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ianbthomson says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go.......

We’ll miss his goals!!??

I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century!
Maybe one of the conditions added by the footballing Gods for getting one if the best players outside the Premiership, in terms of Matt Ritchie for practically nothing, was that we had to spend a fortune on someone who is not that great ?? Maybe it is when of the yin / yang things ;)
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go....... We’ll miss his goals!!?? I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century![/p][/quote]Maybe one of the conditions added by the footballing Gods for getting one if the best players outside the Premiership, in terms of Matt Ritchie for practically nothing, was that we had to spend a fortune on someone who is not that great ?? Maybe it is when of the yin / yang things ;) ianbthomson
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

abc100 says...

Why do so many assume a big physical forward means a change of play, we are not talking about a Fletch type target man, just someone who can get on the end of a few crosses, can hold it up a bit, I totally agree with whoever mentioned earlier about Grabbon often has to run into the channels and as we know he is pretty quick so he often has to have a go on his own as others can't get in the box quick enough, I really think some try to make the lovely game more complicated than it is !!!!!
Why do so many assume a big physical forward means a change of play, we are not talking about a Fletch type target man, just someone who can get on the end of a few crosses, can hold it up a bit, I totally agree with whoever mentioned earlier about Grabbon often has to run into the channels and as we know he is pretty quick so he often has to have a go on his own as others can't get in the box quick enough, I really think some try to make the lovely game more complicated than it is !!!!! abc100
  • Score: 6

4:10pm Thu 9 Jan 14

ben611 says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go....... We’ll miss his goals!!?? I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century!
TK is the biggest flop I can think of all that money wasted! he looks like a child playing football in the mens league! seems a nice guy but is clueless!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go....... We’ll miss his goals!!?? I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century![/p][/quote]TK is the biggest flop I can think of all that money wasted! he looks like a child playing football in the mens league! seems a nice guy but is clueless! ben611
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

raybren says...

I don ' t remember Ted MacDougall being that big . Of course we are not going to get a modern day Ted , however what we need is a goalscorer , someone who will make this already good side into a real force !
I don ' t remember Ted MacDougall being that big . Of course we are not going to get a modern day Ted , however what we need is a goalscorer , someone who will make this already good side into a real force ! raybren
  • Score: 4

4:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Can I congratulate everyone on here today for their Entente Cordiale! You see! it is possible!!!

No empty heads, prats, accusations etc. Even my dear friend 'Kermit' was mild with his response to my post! no wonder they are forecasting snow for next week!!! ahhhhhhhhhh

Come on you mighty Cherries2014 has started on the right footing long may it last.
Can I congratulate everyone on here today for their Entente Cordiale! You see! it is possible!!! No empty heads, prats, accusations etc. Even my dear friend 'Kermit' was mild with his response to my post! no wonder they are forecasting snow for next week!!! ahhhhhhhhhh Come on you mighty Cherries2014 has started on the right footing long may it last. nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Thu 9 Jan 14

bobsworthforever says...

Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me
Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me bobsworthforever
  • Score: 1

5:06pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go.......

We’ll miss his goals!!??

I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century!
Just spotted my typo thumps instead of thumbs!!! what am I like! in my defense I was using my old laptop whereby you type away and nothing appears on the screen and after a long wait it does. Sometimes you even forget what you typed and if you change your mind in saying what you want to say it is even worse because totally unrelated words will appear in the middle of a sentence, the PC I am on now does at least shows up straight away so if I make an error it is my fault. And the so called American English Auto Spell check is something else!!! You know what I meant didn't you Ted big pants!!!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]OK before I say anything (Nonno) I am well prepared for a hatful of thumbs-down, so here we go....... We’ll miss his goals!!?? I don’t want to be like this but I am really starting to question the value of this signing which is a bit part-time at best. To be honest Matt Ritchie has only been back for a handful of games and has tickled the back of the net with that round air-filled thing more and he’s a midfielder, not to mention the bargain of the century![/p][/quote]Just spotted my typo thumps instead of thumbs!!! what am I like! in my defense I was using my old laptop whereby you type away and nothing appears on the screen and after a long wait it does. Sometimes you even forget what you typed and if you change your mind in saying what you want to say it is even worse because totally unrelated words will appear in the middle of a sentence, the PC I am on now does at least shows up straight away so if I make an error it is my fault. And the so called American English Auto Spell check is something else!!! You know what I meant didn't you Ted big pants!!! nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 1

5:52pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

bobsworthforever wrote:
Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me
I don't think anybody was suggesting that we give up our passing game and resort to route one football every time we're losing - it was just having a forward with a bit of height would give us another option, as all our forwards right now are quite similar. Also, a lot of the teams we seem to have struggled against have had large central defenders who can cut out most of the crosses we do get into the box - which isn't difficult when they're 6 inches taller than our current forwards. It just means we can change things about if needed.
[quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me[/p][/quote]I don't think anybody was suggesting that we give up our passing game and resort to route one football every time we're losing - it was just having a forward with a bit of height would give us another option, as all our forwards right now are quite similar. Also, a lot of the teams we seem to have struggled against have had large central defenders who can cut out most of the crosses we do get into the box - which isn't difficult when they're 6 inches taller than our current forwards. It just means we can change things about if needed. Lowe-Ryder
  • Score: 2

7:17pm Thu 9 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted.

Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that.

If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
its a learning curve .
Oh yeah
better later on ?
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]its a learning curve . Oh yeah better later on ? holdinkæft
  • Score: -3

7:29pm Thu 9 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

smhinto wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything
You are right Nonno in that it would not solve everything, but as I have said in my earlier post - a big striker could be used as an OPTION or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about.
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In addition, as somebody has already stated - a hefty forward could be utilised i.e. when we go a goal down with 20 mins to go and or the opposition has tall central defenders and sits back on their lead or the starting set-up and tactics are not hurting the opposition.
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I often do this on scouting opposition assessments, the first things I note are the starting formation, noting heights of players and pace in key areas and noting any change in formation during the game i.e. from a 4-4-2 to a 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 etc. Obviously this is passed to the manager I am doing the report for and he sets-up his side accordingly whilst being wary that the oppostion could change their set-up.
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We must always have an option if ones tactics are not hurting the opposition. At the Moment at AFCB we do not have options and have to plough on with one up front so the oppostion will play us out accordingly.
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We have often gone a goal down and still continued the same way therefore the opposition will then sit back and don't do anything maverick and just see the game out.
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On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options.
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Food for thought Gents
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Regards
Sounds like bad management to me, still,
Its a learning curve !!!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: Smhinto I know that you are unable to watch us play but if you did you would see my point about lack of bodies in the box so whilst a stronger striker would make a difference it alone would not solve everything[/p][/quote]You are right Nonno in that it would not solve everything, but as I have said in my earlier post - a big striker could be used as an OPTION or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about. . In addition, as somebody has already stated - a hefty forward could be utilised i.e. when we go a goal down with 20 mins to go and or the opposition has tall central defenders and sits back on their lead or the starting set-up and tactics are not hurting the opposition. . I often do this on scouting opposition assessments, the first things I note are the starting formation, noting heights of players and pace in key areas and noting any change in formation during the game i.e. from a 4-4-2 to a 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 etc. Obviously this is passed to the manager I am doing the report for and he sets-up his side accordingly whilst being wary that the oppostion could change their set-up. . We must always have an option if ones tactics are not hurting the opposition. At the Moment at AFCB we do not have options and have to plough on with one up front so the oppostion will play us out accordingly. . We have often gone a goal down and still continued the same way therefore the opposition will then sit back and don't do anything maverick and just see the game out. . On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options. . Food for thought Gents . Regards[/p][/quote]Sounds like bad management to me, still, Its a learning curve !!! holdinkæft
  • Score: -4

7:32pm Thu 9 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

Lowe-Ryder wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/2014_Africa


n_Nations_Championsh


ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia:

"All players are locally based, as required by competition rules."

In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...
RUBBISH
[quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia: "All players are locally based, as required by competition rules." In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...[/p][/quote]RUBBISH holdinkæft
  • Score: -3

7:38pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/2014_Africa



n_Nations_Championsh



ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia:

"All players are locally based, as required by competition rules."

In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...
RUBBISH
Which part are you calling rubbish exactly, troll?
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]Indeed it is on right now, however according to Wikipedia: "All players are locally based, as required by competition rules." In other words, only players currently playing in South Africa...[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]Which part are you calling rubbish exactly, troll? Lowe-Ryder
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Thu 9 Jan 14

abc100 says...

bobsworthforever wrote:
Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me
Your right they are interesting, try reading them again as the majority are very clear, not a big lump but maybe a bit more of a physical presence, someone that might put themselves about a bit in the area and possibly give the centre backs something else to think about, and yeah sometimes in football you do have to lump it forward to regroup and clear the danger because believe it or not we have at times over the years made some terrible mistakes when we have tried to play it out when perhaps a good old hoof up the pitch might of been a better solution, don't get me wrong I want to see my defenders pass it out from the back, but with the quality of strikers in this division you might just have to get rid sometimes,
[quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: Very interesting comments mostly favouring the big lump solution so when we are 1-0 down with 20 mins left we lump it forward and he save the game for us I think the real problem is sometime just not enough bodies in the box but if you look at the teams below us weve outscored all of them no the way forward for me[/p][/quote]Your right they are interesting, try reading them again as the majority are very clear, not a big lump but maybe a bit more of a physical presence, someone that might put themselves about a bit in the area and possibly give the centre backs something else to think about, and yeah sometimes in football you do have to lump it forward to regroup and clear the danger because believe it or not we have at times over the years made some terrible mistakes when we have tried to play it out when perhaps a good old hoof up the pitch might of been a better solution, don't get me wrong I want to see my defenders pass it out from the back, but with the quality of strikers in this division you might just have to get rid sometimes, abc100
  • Score: 0

7:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off.
We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way.
TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.
The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off. We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way. TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros. holdinkæft
  • Score: -5

7:56pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

holdinkæft wrote:
The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off.
We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way.
TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.
The African Nations Championship, which starts in South Africa on Jan 11th is NOT the Africa Cup of Nations - which isn't due to be held until NEXT year. As for the players in it, Wikipedia states "is played between the best national teams of Africa, exclusively featuring players who are active in the national championships and qualified to play in the ongoing season. Expatriate players, regardless of where they play, even in Africa, may not qualify to take part in the African Championship of Nations."

Got that? So Rantie is NOT there...
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off. We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way. TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.[/p][/quote]The African Nations Championship, which starts in South Africa on Jan 11th is NOT the Africa Cup of Nations - which isn't due to be held until NEXT year. As for the players in it, Wikipedia states "is played between the best national teams of Africa, exclusively featuring players who are active in the national championships and qualified to play in the ongoing season. Expatriate players, regardless of where they play, even in Africa, may not qualify to take part in the African Championship of Nations." Got that? So Rantie is NOT there... Lowe-Ryder
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8:24pm Thu 9 Jan 14

dekayedcherry says...

Firsly may I welcome the good news of Ward's contract extension. He has been a rock at the heart of the defence (once the early season learning curve as curbed)and is with Camp the basis of the spine of the team.

Next rather than drag&drop all the pros & cons of the big tall strker, may I put the cat amongst the pigeons by suggesting that small is best !!!.
I did some research online on wiki on the top strikers of all time and found the majority of the post war strikers have been less than 6 ft. (No height measurement for pre war not listed). Top post war was Pele at 5ft 9" then players like Gerd Muller 5ft10", Romario again 5ft 9" (?) and of course the "black pearl" Eusabio who I think was the same size as our own "pearl" in making Tokelo Rantie. Others such as Maradonna, Zola etc and currently Suarez and Aguilla. I was surprised at the lack of strikers over 6ft that featured.
Also if you look at the record AFCB strikers most are 6ft or less. I never saw RonEyre play and could find no height comparison but in the more modern eraTed McDougall was 5ft 10", Dickie Dowsett was about 5ft 9", James Hayter 5ft 10" and Brett Pitman is 6ft but with his "bandy legs" looks smaller .Only big Supa Fletcher at 6ft 2" is on the record scorers list and that is because of his long service to the club which was magnificent. If you take his goals to games ratio it is nowhere near the"smaller" men . phil Boyer was another reasonably prolific goalscorer. For the short time he was with us on loan Jemain Defoe( another small in stature) was very prolific with many assists from big Fletch. So the argument goes on, is a good "little un" better than a good " big un".
So takes your choice would you prefer someone like TerenceBoyd or Jermain Defoe again (out of favour at Spurs ?) personally I think Leon Clark (Coventry) would be a good call as he would develop even more under Eddie's man management skills. UTC
Firsly may I welcome the good news of Ward's contract extension. He has been a rock at the heart of the defence (once the early season learning curve as curbed)and is with Camp the basis of the spine of the team. Next rather than drag&drop all the pros & cons of the big tall strker, may I put the cat amongst the pigeons by suggesting that small is best !!!. I did some research online on wiki on the top strikers of all time and found the majority of the post war strikers have been less than 6 ft. (No height measurement for pre war not listed). Top post war was Pele at 5ft 9" then players like Gerd Muller 5ft10", Romario again 5ft 9" (?) and of course the "black pearl" Eusabio who I think was the same size as our own "pearl" in making Tokelo Rantie. Others such as Maradonna, Zola etc and currently Suarez and Aguilla. I was surprised at the lack of strikers over 6ft that featured. Also if you look at the record AFCB strikers most are 6ft or less. I never saw RonEyre play and could find no height comparison but in the more modern eraTed McDougall was 5ft 10", Dickie Dowsett was about 5ft 9", James Hayter 5ft 10" and Brett Pitman is 6ft but with his "bandy legs" looks smaller .Only big Supa Fletcher at 6ft 2" is on the record scorers list and that is because of his long service to the club which was magnificent. If you take his goals to games ratio it is nowhere near the"smaller" men . phil Boyer was another reasonably prolific goalscorer. For the short time he was with us on loan Jemain Defoe( another small in stature) was very prolific with many assists from big Fletch. So the argument goes on, is a good "little un" better than a good " big un". So takes your choice would you prefer someone like TerenceBoyd or Jermain Defoe again (out of favour at Spurs ?) personally I think Leon Clark (Coventry) would be a good call as he would develop even more under Eddie's man management skills. UTC dekayedcherry
  • Score: 5

8:40pm Thu 9 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

dekayedcherry wrote:
Firsly may I welcome the good news of Ward's contract extension. He has been a rock at the heart of the defence (once the early season learning curve as curbed)and is with Camp the basis of the spine of the team.

Next rather than drag&drop all the pros & cons of the big tall strker, may I put the cat amongst the pigeons by suggesting that small is best !!!.
I did some research online on wiki on the top strikers of all time and found the majority of the post war strikers have been less than 6 ft. (No height measurement for pre war not listed). Top post war was Pele at 5ft 9" then players like Gerd Muller 5ft10", Romario again 5ft 9" (?) and of course the "black pearl" Eusabio who I think was the same size as our own "pearl" in making Tokelo Rantie. Others such as Maradonna, Zola etc and currently Suarez and Aguilla. I was surprised at the lack of strikers over 6ft that featured.
Also if you look at the record AFCB strikers most are 6ft or less. I never saw RonEyre play and could find no height comparison but in the more modern eraTed McDougall was 5ft 10", Dickie Dowsett was about 5ft 9", James Hayter 5ft 10" and Brett Pitman is 6ft but with his "bandy legs" looks smaller .Only big Supa Fletcher at 6ft 2" is on the record scorers list and that is because of his long service to the club which was magnificent. If you take his goals to games ratio it is nowhere near the"smaller" men . phil Boyer was another reasonably prolific goalscorer. For the short time he was with us on loan Jemain Defoe( another small in stature) was very prolific with many assists from big Fletch. So the argument goes on, is a good "little un" better than a good " big un".
So takes your choice would you prefer someone like TerenceBoyd or Jermain Defoe again (out of favour at Spurs ?) personally I think Leon Clark (Coventry) would be a good call as he would develop even more under Eddie's man management skills. UTC
I agree and I am positive that EH knows about these stats will not be motivated by height rather by ability to score goals or at least one with the potential to develop these skills. UTC
[quote][p][bold]dekayedcherry[/bold] wrote: Firsly may I welcome the good news of Ward's contract extension. He has been a rock at the heart of the defence (once the early season learning curve as curbed)and is with Camp the basis of the spine of the team. Next rather than drag&drop all the pros & cons of the big tall strker, may I put the cat amongst the pigeons by suggesting that small is best !!!. I did some research online on wiki on the top strikers of all time and found the majority of the post war strikers have been less than 6 ft. (No height measurement for pre war not listed). Top post war was Pele at 5ft 9" then players like Gerd Muller 5ft10", Romario again 5ft 9" (?) and of course the "black pearl" Eusabio who I think was the same size as our own "pearl" in making Tokelo Rantie. Others such as Maradonna, Zola etc and currently Suarez and Aguilla. I was surprised at the lack of strikers over 6ft that featured. Also if you look at the record AFCB strikers most are 6ft or less. I never saw RonEyre play and could find no height comparison but in the more modern eraTed McDougall was 5ft 10", Dickie Dowsett was about 5ft 9", James Hayter 5ft 10" and Brett Pitman is 6ft but with his "bandy legs" looks smaller .Only big Supa Fletcher at 6ft 2" is on the record scorers list and that is because of his long service to the club which was magnificent. If you take his goals to games ratio it is nowhere near the"smaller" men . phil Boyer was another reasonably prolific goalscorer. For the short time he was with us on loan Jemain Defoe( another small in stature) was very prolific with many assists from big Fletch. So the argument goes on, is a good "little un" better than a good " big un". So takes your choice would you prefer someone like TerenceBoyd or Jermain Defoe again (out of favour at Spurs ?) personally I think Leon Clark (Coventry) would be a good call as he would develop even more under Eddie's man management skills. UTC[/p][/quote]I agree and I am positive that EH knows about these stats will not be motivated by height rather by ability to score goals or at least one with the potential to develop these skills. UTC nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 1

9:11pm Thu 9 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

holdinkæft wrote:
The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off.
We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way.
TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.
There's no "rubbish" in my posts today HoldingCock! As YOU say TK s in SA and therefore as I say getting to be a bit of a part-timer for us. As for RichTea, he has indeed scored more goals than TK with less appearances. When he was taken off the last two games it was through tiredness as he is not long back from a lay-off. Also Matt was and still is a bargain - FACTS

In the words of Smhinto "Perhaps you should read the posts properly"

Just in case you're tempted, you know where you can stick your thumb and I hope it's very itchy and uncomfortable!
Regards
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off. We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way. TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.[/p][/quote]There's no "rubbish" in my posts today HoldingCock! As YOU say TK s in SA and therefore as I say getting to be a bit of a part-timer for us. As for RichTea, he has indeed scored more goals than TK with less appearances. When he was taken off the last two games it was through tiredness as he is not long back from a lay-off. Also Matt was and still is a bargain - FACTS In the words of Smhinto "Perhaps you should read the posts properly" Just in case you're tempted, you know where you can stick your thumb and I hope it's very itchy and uncomfortable! Regards TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: 2

11:12pm Thu 9 Jan 14

rednblack37 says...

smhinto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ianbthomson wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
ianbthomson wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)
not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news
In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.
exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough!
Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?
I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD
I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.
Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about.
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On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options.
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I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking.
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Regards
interesting that you think Eddie Howe is narrow-minded - he is responsible for buying players, after all
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: Very good news and it is great that the club is really starting to go the off and on field staff sorted. Going to be a few more changes before the end of the month, with hopefully a big strong striker coming in :)[/p][/quote]not the big lump up front surely anyway its not the way we play but I agree all the rest is very good news[/p][/quote]In my opinion, we have excellent wingers in Fraser, Pugh, Ritchie etc... who put in excellent crosses and a bigger physical presence upfront would give us another option. Whilst, I like the way that we play, we do sometimes lack an end product and a "Terence Boyd" style player would give us that. If you have been down to a few games this season, such as the one against Birmingham last month, when we absolutely battered them for most of the 90 minutes but still lost 2 nil, then I think that you would agree. Their two centre halfs were well over 6ft and the endless crosses which we put in was far too easy for them, given the stature of our strike force.[/p][/quote]exactly what I got slated for few days ago Terrence Boyd would be a great signing! at the moment we have 2 strikers available thats not enough![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, Terence Boyd has apparently already turned us down but there must be other strikers out there which maybe we could get, at least on loan for the season. A win against Burton will inject money onto the treasure chest that could be used for this purpose Perhaps a cheeky loan deal for Kenwyne Jones at Stoke who is not getting a game?[/p][/quote]I agree about the lack of height up front but can I make an observation which would mean that even with height we don't necessarily have the solution. The point I wish to make is that all too often we have only one player in the box and granted a taller player would help but I think that when our wingers make good runs and cross the ball there isn't enough players in the box to give the opposition something to think about. However as long as a taller striker does not mean boring 'long ball' hoofed down the middle I would agree that we need that kind of player for that extra dimension. In Eddie we trust UTCIAD[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you about now getting enough bodies in the box and I do often notice that Grabban seems strangely reluctant to do this. Instead he prefers to stay on the wings. I strongly personally believe that Eddie's passing style of play, will always remain, because that is 100% what he stands for. Consequently, a big striker would not mean to a move to jump lumping it in the box but just a different option.[/p][/quote]Exactly Mr Ianbthomson, I have been saying this for months i.e. a big striker would be used as an option or to change things around when we are not hurting the opposition. i.e. give the oppostion something else to think about. . On many occasions the opposition seem to have us in their back pockets far too early in the game and we have been unable tho change things through lack of options. . I or we in this case just cannot seem to penetrate some peoples narrow minded way of thinking. . Regards[/p][/quote]interesting that you think Eddie Howe is narrow-minded - he is responsible for buying players, after all rednblack37
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11:28pm Thu 9 Jan 14

rednblack37 says...

ianbthomson wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
Lowe-Ryder wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?
I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?
I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.
Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/2014_Africa

n_Nations_Championsh

ip

I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??
But from what I read, only players playing in Africa are eligible, usually would of heard of Premier League losing players by now if it was for all African players, like the African Cup of Nations
[quote][p][bold]ianbthomson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lowe-Ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: Some very astute analysis on here today. Does anyone know if TK is in South Africa or with our squad at the moment?[/p][/quote]I assume he's still here - why would he be in South Africa anyway?[/p][/quote]I believe it's the time of year for the African Nations Championship from11th Jan to 1st Feb.[/p][/quote]Yeah you are right: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2014_Africa n_Nations_Championsh ip I would love to say that he will be really missed but lets face it, he isn't is he??[/p][/quote]But from what I read, only players playing in Africa are eligible, usually would of heard of Premier League losing players by now if it was for all African players, like the African Cup of Nations rednblack37
  • Score: 0

11:22am Mon 13 Jan 14

a real supporter says...

holdinkæft wrote:
The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off. We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way. TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.
Really, does he have a time travel machine because he was on the bench on Saturday against Wigin. As sugested previously you know nothing
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: The last 2 matches Ritchie has been poor, thus taken off. We play the wings because they are forced down there as the opposition knows its our weak point. Since christmas Howe has changed the way we play that is why the results have gone our way. TK is in SA for the Nations Cup, Africas answer to our Euros.[/p][/quote]Really, does he have a time travel machine because he was on the bench on Saturday against Wigin. As sugested previously you know nothing a real supporter
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