AFC Bournemouth: Howe's men beaten by Birmingham (WITH VIDEO)

Bournemouth Echo: AFC Bournemouth: Howe's men beaten by Birmingham AFC Bournemouth: Howe's men beaten by Birmingham

CHERRIES’ barren home form continued this afternoon as Birmingham City ran out 2-0 winners at Dean Court.

Eddie Howe’s men have not registered a victory on home soil since the 5-2 thumping of Millwall back in October and failed to build on last weekend’s superb away win at Reading.

Andrew Shinnie’s strike after just three minutes rocked Cherries early on and, despite bossing possession and creating several meaningful chances, Nikola Zigic’s 34th-minute goal was enough to earn Lee Clark’s men a fortuitous three points.

Boss Howe stuck with the same 11 that had started the morale-boosting 2-1 win at the Madejski Stadium a week ago, with marquee signing Tokelo Rantie forced to settle for a place among the substitutes.

But Cherries got off to the worst possible start when Shinnie blasted home from close range with the crowd still taking their seats, his shot from Oliver Lee’s cross slamming into the roof of the net to leave Lee Camp with no chance.

In a frenetic opening, Marc Pugh’s shot from inside the box was easily saved by Blues keeper Darren Randolph, while Harry Arter blazed over when well-placed after 11 minutes.

A well-struck effort from Arter five minutes later was blocked as Cherries enjoyed a dominant spell of possession.

Five corners in quick succession told the story of Cherries’ dominance. Lewis Grabban’s well-directed header on 22 minutes, following a beautiful cross from Simon Francis, was clawed away by Randolph.

Moments later the visitors were denied what looked to be a stonewall penalty after Francis appeared to handle Shinnie’s cross from the left, but referee Michael Naylor waved away the Blues’ desperate pleas.

Randolph was on hand to tip Grabban’s cross away from Pugh on the half-hour, while Francis’s free kick was blocked by Nikola Zigic.

And Cherries were made to pay for failing to make their dominance count, as well as for a degree of naivety on the ball, when Zigic burst clear and slotted under Camp to make it 2-0 on 34 minutes. The big Serb had been played in by Jesse Lingard, who robbed Andrew Surman of possession. It was far too simple and Howe would have been seething.

On 39 minutes, Shinnie looked to double his own tally and make it 3-0 as he shaped to shoot inside the Cherries box, but the hosts had Steve Cook to thank for a last-ditch challenge on the impressive Scotsman.

At the other end, Paul Robinson’s block denied Ritchie. Seconds later, Grabban’s neat shot with the outside of his right foot narrowly crept past the post after the striker had been expertly played in by Arter.

Ritchie was again in the thick of the action in first-half stoppage time, but the little winger drove straight at Randolph following neat link-up play with Pugh. There was still time for O’Kane to fire over and Tommy Elphick to miss the target with a header from yet another Ritchie corner.

At the break, it was hard to believe quite how Howe’s men were 2-0 down and yet to register a goal of their own.

Howe brought on Ryan Fraser in place of Surman at half-time and Cherries continued to boss possession without creating too much in the way of clear-cut chances. Ritchie’s weak drive straight at Randolph was the only real effort of the first eight minutes of the second period.

Randoph saved well from Pugh on 55 minutes, the keeper equal to the Lancastrian’s fierce right-foot drive from close range, before pushing Ritchie’s well-struck free kick away moments later.

Grabban’s 63rd-minute glancing header flashed narrowly over Randolph’s crossbar, while the Blues stopper gathered Fraser’s snapshot five minutes later.

After Howe had introduced final throw of the dice Brett Pitman 11 minutes from time, Grabban dragged a left-foot shot well wide, while Cook’s effort from distance was never going to trouble Randolph.

Cherries: (4-5-1) Camp; Francis, Elphick, Cook, Daniels (Pitman, 79); Ritchie, Arter, O'Kane, Surman (Fraser, h-t), Pugh (Rantie, 66); Grabban.

Unused subs: Harte, MacDonald, Yennaris, Flahavan (g/k).

Booked: Ritchie.

Blues: (4-2-3-1) Randolph; Caddis, Burn, Bartley, Robinson; Adeyemi, Lee; Burke (McLean, 61), Lingard (Reilly, 75), Shinnie; Zigic.

Unused subs: Mullins, Brown, Bell, Gray, Doyle (g/k).

Booked: Caddis, Bartley, Burke, Adeyemi, Shinnie.

Referee: Michael Naylor (South Yorks).

Attendance: 9,256.

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5:17pm Sat 14 Dec 13

smhinto says...

Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
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It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
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We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception. smhinto

5:23pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Afcbives says...

Shut up u moron u don't even live in Bournemouth or support
Shut up u moron u don't even live in Bournemouth or support Afcbives

5:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game .. Nat1234

5:31pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

Normal service resumed. Regards.
Normal service resumed. Regards. Mike Oxbig

5:35pm Sat 14 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Normal service resumed. Regards.
Yep, you being a dick as usual.!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]Yep, you being a dick as usual.!!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

5:39pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Verwoodcherrry says...

Final thir, Final third, Final third, any ideas on where our problems are?
Final thir, Final third, Final third, any ideas on where our problems are? Verwoodcherrry

5:42pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Verwoodcherrry says...

Verwoodcherrry wrote:
Final thir, Final third, Final third, any ideas on where our problems are?
Not forgetting one or two schoolboy errors at the back!
[quote][p][bold]Verwoodcherrry[/bold] wrote: Final thir, Final third, Final third, any ideas on where our problems are?[/p][/quote]Not forgetting one or two schoolboy errors at the back! Verwoodcherrry

5:43pm Sat 14 Dec 13

abc100 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Come on then, who should we try to sign??
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Come on then, who should we try to sign?? abc100

5:43pm Sat 14 Dec 13

cherrygood says...

smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
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It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
.
We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
You really are a miserable git and clearly glory in a cherries defeat. Back to your getting the first post in because you never go to games. When was the last time you actually went?
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]You really are a miserable git and clearly glory in a cherries defeat. Back to your getting the first post in because you never go to games. When was the last time you actually went? cherrygood

5:48pm Sat 14 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
.
It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
.
We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
I have come to the rescue in one of your post last week however your persistence in advocating the impossible when EH cannot produce a striker out of the a hat, something even someone with an 'empty head' would acknowledge. What is more you have the knack of irritating loyal fans who actually watch the team play week in and week out, and for someone who should be busy writing your report for your pay masters, you waste no time in posting what to most of us is obvious but as yet not implementable due to the fact the transfer window does not re-open until January.

I was very disappointed with losing today and you should have said so rather than croaking like an over sized frog.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]I have come to the rescue in one of your post last week however your persistence in advocating the impossible when EH cannot produce a striker out of the a hat, something even someone with an 'empty head' would acknowledge. What is more you have the knack of irritating loyal fans who actually watch the team play week in and week out, and for someone who should be busy writing your report for your pay masters, you waste no time in posting what to most of us is obvious but as yet not implementable due to the fact the transfer window does not re-open until January. I was very disappointed with losing today and you should have said so rather than croaking like an over sized frog. nonnogeppetto

5:50pm Sat 14 Dec 13

smhinto says...

Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES.
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This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious.
.
REGARDS
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES. . This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious. . REGARDS smhinto

5:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

abc100 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Come on then, who should we try to sign??
I'm not Eddie Howe ... But I think he could of spent 2.5 million on a better striker than rantie .
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Come on then, who should we try to sign??[/p][/quote]I'm not Eddie Howe ... But I think he could of spent 2.5 million on a better striker than rantie . Nat1234

5:52pm Sat 14 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

Taxi for Howe and Tindall, we have plenty of goalscorers at this club IF they are used to their strengths and played in their best positions, best do some work on corners this week 14 today most pretty hopeless
Taxi for Howe and Tindall, we have plenty of goalscorers at this club IF they are used to their strengths and played in their best positions, best do some work on corners this week 14 today most pretty hopeless WHYNOT

5:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

West moors 1 says...

Good effort today, but for their keeper and a bit of luck we would of probably drawn the game. Grabbon needs help but a great improvement overall with attacking football and shoots at goal. Not too dishearted but we need to sign a goal scorer in the January window.
Good effort today, but for their keeper and a bit of luck we would of probably drawn the game. Grabbon needs help but a great improvement overall with attacking football and shoots at goal. Not too dishearted but we need to sign a goal scorer in the January window. West moors 1

5:55pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Juzz7777 says...

I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !!
I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !! Juzz7777

5:59pm Sat 14 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

smhinto wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES.
.
This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious.
.
REGARDS
People see the "bleeding obvious" every time you post your repetetive dross.!!!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES. . This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious. . REGARDS[/p][/quote]People see the "bleeding obvious" every time you post your repetetive dross.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

6:02pm Sat 14 Dec 13

abc100 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Come on then, who should we try to sign??
I'm not Eddie Howe ... But I think he could of spent 2.5 million on a better striker than rantie .
Obviously your not Eddie Howe!!! But you like to point out who shouldn't play so tell us who you think should, I'm interested in what people think. Me personally would love to see Leon Clarke from Coventry, big,quick, strong and knows where the goal is
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Come on then, who should we try to sign??[/p][/quote]I'm not Eddie Howe ... But I think he could of spent 2.5 million on a better striker than rantie .[/p][/quote]Obviously your not Eddie Howe!!! But you like to point out who shouldn't play so tell us who you think should, I'm interested in what people think. Me personally would love to see Leon Clarke from Coventry, big,quick, strong and knows where the goal is abc100

6:04pm Sat 14 Dec 13

dustbindanny says...

Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ? Where was the shooting at goal. In my opinion , we gave birmingham too much respect and that cost us ? They wern,t that good, but have some balls , make their keeper work.! Goals win games, goals win games,it seems a big let down from last week, ?
Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ? Where was the shooting at goal. In my opinion , we gave birmingham too much respect and that cost us ? They wern,t that good, but have some balls , make their keeper work.! Goals win games, goals win games,it seems a big let down from last week, ? dustbindanny

6:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

afcb-mark says...

How we lost that game I will never know. We were by far the better team and the football played by us made them look like amateurs. Two needless errors, but apart from that they never got a look in. Even though we lost I actually enjoyed this game. If we keep playing like that we will start winning comfortably very soon. I'd stick with this team, but play Fraser instead of Surman.
How we lost that game I will never know. We were by far the better team and the football played by us made them look like amateurs. Two needless errors, but apart from that they never got a look in. Even though we lost I actually enjoyed this game. If we keep playing like that we will start winning comfortably very soon. I'd stick with this team, but play Fraser instead of Surman. afcb-mark

6:08pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Andy G says...

We were excellent today and on another day we would have won comfortably. Unlucky but well played lads.
We were excellent today and on another day we would have won comfortably. Unlucky but well played lads. Andy G

6:12pm Sat 14 Dec 13

hotdog350 says...

Bournemouth 60% possession today. limitless corners for us. A Ref on our side. They should have had a penalty for our hand ball the box.
And as with Bolton, we lose!
All those crosses and no striker in the box to finish them and score. Gates are starting to fall so come on guys try to put some gloss on that.
A lot of supporters believe we will buy a proven striker this January ....................
Don't bank on it!
Bournemouth 60% possession today. limitless corners for us. A Ref on our side. They should have had a penalty for our hand ball the box. And as with Bolton, we lose! All those crosses and no striker in the box to finish them and score. Gates are starting to fall so come on guys try to put some gloss on that. A lot of supporters believe we will buy a proven striker this January .................... Don't bank on it! hotdog350

6:16pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the amazon returns again says...

afcb-mark wrote:
How we lost that game I will never know. We were by far the better team and the football played by us made them look like amateurs. Two needless errors, but apart from that they never got a look in. Even though we lost I actually enjoyed this game. If we keep playing like that we will start winning comfortably very soon. I'd stick with this team, but play Fraser instead of Surman.
Yes but they scored 2 goals Markie, get a grip Howe, 6 pointer today
[quote][p][bold]afcb-mark[/bold] wrote: How we lost that game I will never know. We were by far the better team and the football played by us made them look like amateurs. Two needless errors, but apart from that they never got a look in. Even though we lost I actually enjoyed this game. If we keep playing like that we will start winning comfortably very soon. I'd stick with this team, but play Fraser instead of Surman.[/p][/quote]Yes but they scored 2 goals Markie, get a grip Howe, 6 pointer today the amazon returns again

6:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Richard 1976 says...

smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
.
It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
.
We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
Stay east of Dunham bridge. You talk rot. It's our first season in the second division for 23 years and I don't think we can complain too much. Very much looking forward to the trip to swillsborough as my blade supporting dad called it.. Will anyone else be frequenting the Sheffield tap at the station? Highly recommend it! Up the cherries!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]Stay east of Dunham bridge. You talk rot. It's our first season in the second division for 23 years and I don't think we can complain too much. Very much looking forward to the trip to swillsborough as my blade supporting dad called it.. Will anyone else be frequenting the Sheffield tap at the station? Highly recommend it! Up the cherries! Richard 1976

6:38pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Juzz7777 wrote:
I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !!
sheff wed won today at watford i think we lost there too.
[quote][p][bold]Juzz7777[/bold] wrote: I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !![/p][/quote]sheff wed won today at watford i think we lost there too. holdinkæft

6:41pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
smhinto wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES.
.
This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious.
.
REGARDS
People see the "bleeding obvious" every time you post your repetetive dross.!!!
Had a bad day did you? never mind its soon christmas.
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Careful I have just suggested what you have said and I have just been called a moron above by AFCBIVES. . This just displays the kind of absolute screaming idiots that we all have to contend with on this site. People who just cannot see the bleeding obvious. . REGARDS[/p][/quote]People see the "bleeding obvious" every time you post your repetetive dross.!!![/p][/quote]Had a bad day did you? never mind its soon christmas. holdinkæft

6:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

lockandload says...

Richard 1976 wrote:
smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
.
It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
.
We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
Stay east of Dunham bridge. You talk rot. It's our first season in the second division for 23 years and I don't think we can complain too much. Very much looking forward to the trip to swillsborough as my blade supporting dad called it.. Will anyone else be frequenting the Sheffield tap at the station? Highly recommend it! Up the cherries!
Oh yes , I can recommend the Sheffield Tap with its range of Real beers. I rarely agree with smhinto but Demin unlike the rest of us may sack Eddie sooner rather than later. That's the name of the game I am afraid nowadays with absent owners who only find out the score from their P.A.
Eddie doesn't seem to be helping himself at the moment. Why didn't He use the loan market and get a striker in. This belief n Rantie and Pitman may sink him in the end but I hope not. Is it because Fletcher chose Rantie?
[quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]Stay east of Dunham bridge. You talk rot. It's our first season in the second division for 23 years and I don't think we can complain too much. Very much looking forward to the trip to swillsborough as my blade supporting dad called it.. Will anyone else be frequenting the Sheffield tap at the station? Highly recommend it! Up the cherries![/p][/quote]Oh yes , I can recommend the Sheffield Tap with its range of Real beers. I rarely agree with smhinto but Demin unlike the rest of us may sack Eddie sooner rather than later. That's the name of the game I am afraid nowadays with absent owners who only find out the score from their P.A. Eddie doesn't seem to be helping himself at the moment. Why didn't He use the loan market and get a striker in. This belief n Rantie and Pitman may sink him in the end but I hope not. Is it because Fletcher chose Rantie? lockandload

6:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS. holdinkæft

6:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

dustbindanny wrote:
Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ? Where was the shooting at goal. In my opinion , we gave birmingham too much respect and that cost us ? They wern,t that good, but have some balls , make their keeper work.! Goals win games, goals win games,it seems a big let down from last week, ?
Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ?
Exactly what Reading said last week. wake up.
[quote][p][bold]dustbindanny[/bold] wrote: Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ? Where was the shooting at goal. In my opinion , we gave birmingham too much respect and that cost us ? They wern,t that good, but have some balls , make their keeper work.! Goals win games, goals win games,it seems a big let down from last week, ?[/p][/quote]Eddie, do you know what Suicidal means, if not, ask the defence ( tommy) , I just can't believe we have lost to a side that we dominated ? Last Saturday , we played Reading nearly, off the pitch ,but today gifted birmingham 2 goals , thanks to our defence ? Exactly what Reading said last week. wake up. holdinkæft

6:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

hotdog350 wrote:
Bournemouth 60% possession today. limitless corners for us. A Ref on our side. They should have had a penalty for our hand ball the box.
And as with Bolton, we lose!
All those crosses and no striker in the box to finish them and score. Gates are starting to fall so come on guys try to put some gloss on that.
A lot of supporters believe we will buy a proven striker this January ....................

Don't bank on it!
I think the gates were down today due to Xmas shopping . We were by far the better team today , but I must admit Birmingham certainly know how to defend .
[quote][p][bold]hotdog350[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth 60% possession today. limitless corners for us. A Ref on our side. They should have had a penalty for our hand ball the box. And as with Bolton, we lose! All those crosses and no striker in the box to finish them and score. Gates are starting to fall so come on guys try to put some gloss on that. A lot of supporters believe we will buy a proven striker this January .................... Don't bank on it![/p][/quote]I think the gates were down today due to Xmas shopping . We were by far the better team today , but I must admit Birmingham certainly know how to defend . Nat1234

6:54pm Sat 14 Dec 13

pooleboy says...

Juzz7777 wrote:
I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !!
Birmingham were really poor that's why they stuffed you you turkey
[quote][p][bold]Juzz7777[/bold] wrote: I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !![/p][/quote]Birmingham were really poor that's why they stuffed you you turkey pooleboy

7:02pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Juzz7777 wrote:
I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !!
sheff wed won today at watford i think we lost there too.
Agreed. Almost a foregone conclusion.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Juzz7777[/bold] wrote: I thought Birmingham were very poor today ,and they were there for the taking !! But we lost ,our finishing is not clinical enough at this level,it needs to be addressed rapidly ,or the same will happen on Boxing Day against Yeovil !![/p][/quote]sheff wed won today at watford i think we lost there too.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Almost a foregone conclusion. Mike Oxbig

7:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

devon fan says...

once again the stats will show that we played well and dominated large spells of the game, but all the stats prove is how inefficient we are, this team sadly is incapable of learning from their mistakes and continue to make them game after game, I have no doubt that Eddie will take comfort from the stats and his comments will no doubt will tell us the team deserved better, but we can only accept this for so long, I am not certain whether it is Max\Demin or Max Factor who owns the club, because we have so many powder puff forwards, and for those who think it is unthinkable that Eddie Howe would ever be sacked it must be realised that no owner who is ambitious can afford to carry on , put each player into another team and without a doubt they would be key players but together too many mistakes ruin their chances, my advice to the players would be if you wish to keep the manager in is job then wake up
once again the stats will show that we played well and dominated large spells of the game, but all the stats prove is how inefficient we are, this team sadly is incapable of learning from their mistakes and continue to make them game after game, I have no doubt that Eddie will take comfort from the stats and his comments will no doubt will tell us the team deserved better, but we can only accept this for so long, I am not certain whether it is Max\Demin or Max Factor who owns the club, because we have so many powder puff forwards, and for those who think it is unthinkable that Eddie Howe would ever be sacked it must be realised that no owner who is ambitious can afford to carry on , put each player into another team and without a doubt they would be key players but together too many mistakes ruin their chances, my advice to the players would be if you wish to keep the manager in is job then wake up devon fan

7:15pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.[/p][/quote]Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards. Mike Oxbig

7:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

dustbindanny says...

When we go and have a night on the 'town' we try and keep our faculties about us , and try and not get Mugged? Today the team were Mugged twice and it was their own fault?
When we go and have a night on the 'town' we try and keep our faculties about us , and try and not get Mugged? Today the team were Mugged twice and it was their own fault? dustbindanny

7:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd holdinkæft

7:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Afcbives says...

Smhinto maybe for Christmas get cherries player and listen how actually we play well enough just need to score
Smhinto maybe for Christmas get cherries player and listen how actually we play well enough just need to score Afcbives

7:31pm Sat 14 Dec 13

lockandload says...

Afcbives wrote:
Smhinto maybe for Christmas get cherries player and listen how actually we play well enough just need to score
And that's the problem because we don't score in open play
[quote][p][bold]Afcbives[/bold] wrote: Smhinto maybe for Christmas get cherries player and listen how actually we play well enough just need to score[/p][/quote]And that's the problem because we don't score in open play lockandload

7:32pm Sat 14 Dec 13

poolepaul says...

holdinkæft wrote:
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
Ok then. You are a d1ckhead!
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd[/p][/quote]Ok then. You are a d1ckhead! poolepaul

7:34pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

holdinkæft wrote:
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd[/p][/quote]You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow? Cherry Tony

7:42pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

We played some good stuff today. Dominated Birmingham although they were pretty average to be fair. I think most of us would admit that we do have a problem up front. Apart from Grabban, none of them have performed this season. That said, if only it was as easy as simply signing up top Championship strikers. Easy to see the problem. Much harder to fix it. UTCIAD.
We played some good stuff today. Dominated Birmingham although they were pretty average to be fair. I think most of us would admit that we do have a problem up front. Apart from Grabban, none of them have performed this season. That said, if only it was as easy as simply signing up top Championship strikers. Easy to see the problem. Much harder to fix it. UTCIAD. Cherry Tony

7:43pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Who_R_Ya says...

Same old post's on here, when will all the loyal fans tell the truth for a change, 2 terrible mistakes cost us again, we never have anybody in the box and don't know where the goal is, Rantie played quite well when he came on Pitman was awful as always as a loyal fan and season ticket holder for many years it's time to stop being nice and play hard otherwise all you lot who love being in the championship and it's only our 1st season pish get a grip otherwise we will be relegated into oblivion again. Also Eddie needs to take some responsibility look at all the short players on the pitch against there team although they were a poor team they still new how to score a goal or 2 even with our help.
Same old post's on here, when will all the loyal fans tell the truth for a change, 2 terrible mistakes cost us again, we never have anybody in the box and don't know where the goal is, Rantie played quite well when he came on Pitman was awful as always as a loyal fan and season ticket holder for many years it's time to stop being nice and play hard otherwise all you lot who love being in the championship and it's only our 1st season pish get a grip otherwise we will be relegated into oblivion again. Also Eddie needs to take some responsibility look at all the short players on the pitch against there team although they were a poor team they still new how to score a goal or 2 even with our help. Who_R_Ya

7:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

BackOfTheNet says...

Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens!

Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players.

Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :)
Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens! Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players. Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :) BackOfTheNet

7:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

Cherry Tony wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?
Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not .
[quote][p][bold]Cherry Tony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd[/p][/quote]You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?[/p][/quote]Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not . Nat1234

7:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

BackOfTheNet says...

Oops! That's £50K a week players of course :(
Oops! That's £50K a week players of course :( BackOfTheNet

7:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mo Berthe says...

IMPORTANT NOTICE:
I have never posted on here before but finally feel compelled to.
I am exiled in Yorkshire and check the Echo daily for news and reviews of games.

It seems that far too much time in the comments section is devoted to humouring the nonsense that comes from smhinto. I would therefore ask that everyone please simply ignore his/her comments from now on so that genuine fans can debate genuine issues.

If all ignore him/her then I believe he/she will go away and make antagonistic comments on other sites instead of the site devoted to our team, the mighty AFC Bournemouth. Please, I implore people to do this so that no more time and space is wasted on this drivel, as he/she is clearly just trying to incite a reaction from people, with no real idea of how the team has performed.

UTCIAD - In Eddie we trust...
IMPORTANT NOTICE: I have never posted on here before but finally feel compelled to. I am exiled in Yorkshire and check the Echo daily for news and reviews of games. It seems that far too much time in the comments section is devoted to humouring the nonsense that comes from smhinto. I would therefore ask that everyone please simply ignore his/her comments from now on so that genuine fans can debate genuine issues. If all ignore him/her then I believe he/she will go away and make antagonistic comments on other sites instead of the site devoted to our team, the mighty AFC Bournemouth. Please, I implore people to do this so that no more time and space is wasted on this drivel, as he/she is clearly just trying to incite a reaction from people, with no real idea of how the team has performed. UTCIAD - In Eddie we trust... Mo Berthe

7:48pm Sat 14 Dec 13

bobsworthforever says...

Very disappointing today what I would like to know is why hasn't Yennaris been given a chance why don't Macdonald play. When one of our players makes a mistake why is there no cover.The problem of not scoring is why dont we get more players in the box cant see signing one goalscorer will solve that.As for Fraser and TK they need playing in not just humping it into the box when they have no chance . All needs a complete rethink,
Very disappointing today what I would like to know is why hasn't Yennaris been given a chance why don't Macdonald play. When one of our players makes a mistake why is there no cover.The problem of not scoring is why dont we get more players in the box cant see signing one goalscorer will solve that.As for Fraser and TK they need playing in not just humping it into the box when they have no chance . All needs a complete rethink, bobsworthforever

8:03pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Cherry Tony wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?
Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not .
I just struggle to read his posts. Like I said, I think he's not one of the sharper tools in the box.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cherry Tony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd[/p][/quote]You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?[/p][/quote]Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not .[/p][/quote]I just struggle to read his posts. Like I said, I think he's not one of the sharper tools in the box. Cherry Tony

8:03pm Sat 14 Dec 13

AFCB Badger says...

Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table. AFCB Badger

8:04pm Sat 14 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens!

Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players.

Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :)
any striker we might sign would have a problem scoring for us, our management duo would adapt the new man to fit into our system and play him out of position
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens! Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players. Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :)[/p][/quote]any striker we might sign would have a problem scoring for us, our management duo would adapt the new man to fit into our system and play him out of position WHYNOT

8:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

bluestevo says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens!

Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players.

Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :)
We only have 1 player on wages near that.We're a team of loans and free transfers earning about £5k a week.
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: Could one of the experts tell me which big striker we should sign in January please? He obviously needs to fit into our wage structure, be affordable and want to come here. Come on, there must be dozens! Superb today against a very lucky team of big hoofers, but sadly errors will be punished against teams with £50 a week players. Onwards and upwards. Wednesday here we come :)[/p][/quote]We only have 1 player on wages near that.We're a team of loans and free transfers earning about £5k a week. bluestevo

8:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

lofty1971 says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing. lofty1971

8:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

lockandload says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
Bolton all over again and don't take for granted we will finish mid table.
P.S I am no loonie
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]Bolton all over again and don't take for granted we will finish mid table. P.S I am no loonie lockandload

8:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

On a lighter note. Congrats to the Birmingham fans for some very amusing chants today.
On a lighter note. Congrats to the Birmingham fans for some very amusing chants today. Cherry Tony

8:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

swanagecherrie says...

Afcb shots on 8 shots off 16 corners 14 possession 66%
Bcfc shots on 2 shots off 2 corners 3 possession 34%
Of course we had these stats they scored in the 1st three minutes and shut up shop and for all the possession they allowed us we couldn't break them down. Eddie says after every game we were unlucky we dominated, can we be this unlucky one win in nine or 6 points out of 27 ???. I don't think there's a lot wrong with the team but scoring is the main problem. Is it our strikers or service to them what ever it needs sorting before to long if we want to stay in this league.
Afcb shots on 8 shots off 16 corners 14 possession 66% Bcfc shots on 2 shots off 2 corners 3 possession 34% Of course we had these stats they scored in the 1st three minutes and shut up shop and for all the possession they allowed us we couldn't break them down. Eddie says after every game we were unlucky we dominated, can we be this unlucky one win in nine or 6 points out of 27 ???. I don't think there's a lot wrong with the team but scoring is the main problem. Is it our strikers or service to them what ever it needs sorting before to long if we want to stay in this league. swanagecherrie

8:27pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Luffbracherry says...

Listened to commentary on Radio WM - their view - for all B'mth possession and opportunities - never looked like scoring!
Listened to commentary on Radio WM - their view - for all B'mth possession and opportunities - never looked like scoring! Luffbracherry

8:36pm Sat 14 Dec 13

rogthedodge123 says...

Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season
Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home
Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today
Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team
Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result
Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display
Fact 7 No speculation here
Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display Fact 7 No speculation here rogthedodge123

8:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

matt68 says...

Does SMHINTO stand for
Stupid,Mad,Hypocriti
cal.Inept.Nonsense.T
alking.Octogenarian !!
Does SMHINTO stand for Stupid,Mad,Hypocriti cal.Inept.Nonsense.T alking.Octogenarian !! matt68

8:48pm Sat 14 Dec 13

gtd says...

Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals
Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal??????????????
Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal?????????????? gtd

8:57pm Sat 14 Dec 13

fozzie bear says...

been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath! fozzie bear

8:58pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Who_R_Ya says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
I'm not a loonie but despite being good game to watch etc etc we still LOST and didn't SCORE I thought football is a game of results and the way we are playing however pretty it may look we will go down if we don't start scoring
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]I'm not a loonie but despite being good game to watch etc etc we still LOST and didn't SCORE I thought football is a game of results and the way we are playing however pretty it may look we will go down if we don't start scoring Who_R_Ya

9:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

afcb72 says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Normal service resumed. Regards.
we didn't miss you.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]we didn't miss you. afcb72

9:21pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Ahtafcb says...

Honestly onw of our best performances at home this season, despite scorline enjoyed the match far more than previous eg derby bolton. Thought we did evrything right today except score! As for birminghamfa , they were woeful, no one can argue they werent! Zigic summed them up! Would like to see coulibaly back, maybe he could bring what we are missing antd cinvert him into striker? Onwards and upwards, also thought crowd was good today, did out best to get behind the team and made abit of npise second half
Honestly onw of our best performances at home this season, despite scorline enjoyed the match far more than previous eg derby bolton. Thought we did evrything right today except score! As for birminghamfa , they were woeful, no one can argue they werent! Zigic summed them up! Would like to see coulibaly back, maybe he could bring what we are missing antd cinvert him into striker? Onwards and upwards, also thought crowd was good today, did out best to get behind the team and made abit of npise second half Ahtafcb

9:24pm Sat 14 Dec 13

MarkS1973 says...

Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience.

We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.
Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience. We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way. MarkS1973

9:26pm Sat 14 Dec 13

abc100 says...

fozzie bear wrote:
been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please
[quote][p][bold]fozzie bear[/bold] wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath![/p][/quote]I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please abc100

9:36pm Sat 14 Dec 13

galadriel says...

smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
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It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
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We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
Mr Smhinto, if you're so sure EH will be sent packing soon by Mr DEMIN (note correct spelling), then why don't you offer your expertise as our new manager? You are obviously far better qualified than anyone else...surely no-one on the planet knows more about football than you! Has it occured to you that it's your self important, patronising attitude towards the REAL supporters that winds up the people on here? Why can't you see that your 'I told you so' posts are tedious, repetitive and unwelcome. If you can't say anything constructive in a polite manner about our great club, then it's preferable to say nothing.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]Mr Smhinto, if you're so sure EH will be sent packing soon by Mr DEMIN (note correct spelling), then why don't you offer your expertise as our new manager? You are obviously far better qualified than anyone else...surely no-one on the planet knows more about football than you! Has it occured to you that it's your self important, patronising attitude towards the REAL supporters that winds up the people on here? Why can't you see that your 'I told you so' posts are tedious, repetitive and unwelcome. If you can't say anything constructive in a polite manner about our great club, then it's preferable to say nothing. galadriel

9:41pm Sat 14 Dec 13

matt68 says...

abc100 wrote:
fozzie bear wrote:
been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please
great so he is on the bench for a league 1 team but we think he will do well at a championship team?!
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fozzie bear[/bold] wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath![/p][/quote]I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please[/p][/quote]great so he is on the bench for a league 1 team but we think he will do well at a championship team?! matt68

10:17pm Sat 14 Dec 13

golfer33 says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.
Agree there, we have always been a lower tier team. maybe we are just in dream land, most of the players dont have a clue in this league. Pugh, Pitman, Francis to name but a few. As for Howe he proved it with Burnley.
Lets get back where we belong. When Max leaves we will be in sh.. street again.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.[/p][/quote]Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.[/p][/quote]Agree there, we have always been a lower tier team. maybe we are just in dream land, most of the players dont have a clue in this league. Pugh, Pitman, Francis to name but a few. As for Howe he proved it with Burnley. Lets get back where we belong. When Max leaves we will be in sh.. street again. golfer33

10:30pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Cherry Tony wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front
with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp

nw tll m m a dt dckhd
You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?
Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not .
thats the way disgruntled fans get, jut shows thier sadness.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cherry Tony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: We should of played 4-4-2 today, why Howe plays Pugh I dont know, we need to play throu the middle. Howes time is up, he played the same team that won last week. he is afraid to change, I would play Grabben and Thomas up front with Ritchie, TK, Macdonald, Arter, Cook, Elphick, Yennaris, Harte and Camp nw tll m m a dt dckhd[/p][/quote]You write like a 3 year old. Are you a bit slow?[/p][/quote]Why do you have to get personal , that to me is more what a 3 year old would do . Everyone is entitled to an opinion , wether you like what you read or not .[/p][/quote]thats the way disgruntled fans get, jut shows thier sadness. holdinkæft

10:59pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
[quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes. holdinkæft

11:14pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

rogthedodge123 wrote:
Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season
Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home
Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today
Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team
Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result
Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display
Fact 7 No speculation here
Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals
[quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display Fact 7 No speculation here[/p][/quote]Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals holdinkæft

11:30pm Sat 14 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Another manager just been fired. the christmas period will be interesing, whos next Mr Howe. a bad time to take up gardening.
Another manager just been fired. the christmas period will be interesing, whos next Mr Howe. a bad time to take up gardening. holdinkæft

11:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

RED on tour says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Normal service resumed. Regards.
Well the weather forecast was again correct. There will be a very large depression in Bournemouth and they have named it kime gobix, however, strange for a depression this one is full of hot air. A few positive results will no doubt fill it and it will blow away.
On a positive note probably the best we have played at home this season and with a little more confidence our strikers WILL find the net. Grabbs running was excellent and on another day with a little bit better luck we would have won comfortably. Mentioning luck how the ref didn't see the hand ball by Francis!!!
UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]Well the weather forecast was again correct. There will be a very large depression in Bournemouth and they have named it kime gobix, however, strange for a depression this one is full of hot air. A few positive results will no doubt fill it and it will blow away. On a positive note probably the best we have played at home this season and with a little more confidence our strikers WILL find the net. Grabbs running was excellent and on another day with a little bit better luck we would have won comfortably. Mentioning luck how the ref didn't see the hand ball by Francis!!! UTCIAD RED on tour

12:25am Sun 15 Dec 13

lofty1971 says...

holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom....
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom.... lofty1971

12:48am Sun 15 Dec 13

Court Side says...

holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll. Court Side

2:59am Sun 15 Dec 13

rednblack37 says...

smhinto wrote:
Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in.
.
It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!!
.
We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.
So we concede first and we need a striker??? Maybe we need to improve the defence first so we don't concede goals? That did not make sense.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Here we go again, concede first and it is game over ENDEX. There are still a number of empty heads who still cannot see that we need a physical striker in. . It will not be long until Mr Howe will be called in for a little chat with Mr Denim. I said in midweek that the win at Reading has not solved our problems. We need to change our strategy and fast!! . We all love and respect Mr Howe for his achievements but this is a results orientated business and Mr Howe is no exception.[/p][/quote]So we concede first and we need a striker??? Maybe we need to improve the defence first so we don't concede goals? That did not make sense. rednblack37

3:01am Sun 15 Dec 13

rednblack37 says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Normal service resumed. Regards.
As your wife said after just 30 seconds.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]As your wife said after just 30 seconds. rednblack37

3:15am Sun 15 Dec 13

rednblack37 says...

abc100 wrote:
fozzie bear wrote:
been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please
So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway!
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fozzie bear[/bold] wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath![/p][/quote]I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please[/p][/quote]So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway! rednblack37

3:51am Sun 15 Dec 13

YafcbY says...

24 shots on goal.
We should have won today.
But then frankly we should not have beaten Reading!
Awwwww well
Heads up, lets win the next game!!!!
UTC
24 shots on goal. We should have won today. But then frankly we should not have beaten Reading! Awwwww well Heads up, lets win the next game!!!! UTC YafcbY

6:37am Sun 15 Dec 13

dc addict says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
Yes we played some great stuff in midfield but the fact is that we continue to make errors at the back which are punished at this level. Birmingham are poor footballing side who have been gifted 3 points. What Eddie needs to understand is that it's better to win ugly than to lose pretty. I am one of those who have called for Leon Clarke and Eddie could have signed him in August.
The basis of football is to score more than you concede and all the pretty passing in the world will not change that. Their second goal was a classic case of Tommy trying to play the beautiful game. Why? Let's win some points first and then indulge ourselves.
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]Yes we played some great stuff in midfield but the fact is that we continue to make errors at the back which are punished at this level. Birmingham are poor footballing side who have been gifted 3 points. What Eddie needs to understand is that it's better to win ugly than to lose pretty. I am one of those who have called for Leon Clarke and Eddie could have signed him in August. The basis of football is to score more than you concede and all the pretty passing in the world will not change that. Their second goal was a classic case of Tommy trying to play the beautiful game. Why? Let's win some points first and then indulge ourselves. dc addict

7:00am Sun 15 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

Court Side wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.
Calm down misery guts. xx
[quote][p][bold]Court Side[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.[/p][/quote]Calm down misery guts. xx Mike Oxbig

8:04am Sun 15 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

Court Side wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Court Side[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Cherry Tony

8:23am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Court Side wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.
The blind leading the blind. Wake up.
[quote][p][bold]Court Side[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.[/p][/quote]The blind leading the blind. Wake up. holdinkæft

8:35am Sun 15 Dec 13

Court Side says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
Court Side wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.
Calm down misery guts. xx
Surprise, surprise, here's troll 2!!
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Court Side[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]Listen up troll, fed up with reading your poisonous bile on here. Funny you didn't make any comments last week when we won at Reading but couldn't wait to come on here with your bulls**t when we,(frustratingly and unluckily), lose. There are no more than probably 50 people tops that comment on here but you would have us believe that the majority of AFCB fans want Eddie Howe sacked. What a joke you are. You say we're on the verge of relegation? I've just checked the calender and notice it's not quite Christmas yet, i believe the relegation places are usually confirmed in May and i'll bet you a pound to a pinch of s**t that we're not in them. In Eddie Howe we have someone who cares passionately about the club and will do all he can to make us a stable force in the Championship, without him we would've disappeared into non league a long time ago but you probably wouldn't know that. I'm guessing the Real Madrid game was probably the 1st and only time you ever went to Dean Court . So stick to watching Man Utd, Liverpool or whoever it is you claim to follow on Sky and leave the real fans to continue supporting the team and the management at AFCB. You don't speak for me you clueless troll.[/p][/quote]Calm down misery guts. xx[/p][/quote]Surprise, surprise, here's troll 2!! Court Side

8:52am Sun 15 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
I suspect you and the other two stooges - Oxbog & Smhinto are very much in the minority with that one.
Look, i know it's panto season, but you lot are beyond a joke.!!!
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]I suspect you and the other two stooges - Oxbog & Smhinto are very much in the minority with that one. Look, i know it's panto season, but you lot are beyond a joke.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

9:08am Sun 15 Dec 13

swanagecherrie says...

MarkS1973 wrote:
Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience.

We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.
Your right this is a championship team in development, nobody with any sense expected more than survival this season. But the last 10 games which lets be real is a fair chunk of the season has been relegation material. I personally don't think its panic time until after the January transfers are finished thats where the managers will show there stuff and we will see if we are a big enough club to survive in this league. Either way I have supported Afcb from the bottom of League 2 to the championship and will continue to do so what ever league we are in.
[quote][p][bold]MarkS1973[/bold] wrote: Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience. We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.[/p][/quote]Your right this is a championship team in development, nobody with any sense expected more than survival this season. But the last 10 games which lets be real is a fair chunk of the season has been relegation material. I personally don't think its panic time until after the January transfers are finished thats where the managers will show there stuff and we will see if we are a big enough club to survive in this league. Either way I have supported Afcb from the bottom of League 2 to the championship and will continue to do so what ever league we are in. swanagecherrie

9:29am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

lofty1971 wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom....
A certain Mr HR
he said in his interview he will be back.
[quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom....[/p][/quote]A certain Mr HR he said in his interview he will be back. holdinkæft

9:32am Sun 15 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

gtd wrote:
Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals
Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal??????????????
not pitman don't you know anything about football . Pitman ain't good enough for the championship . I think we should give stockely 5 or 6 games . Or maybe try tubbs , I know he isn't a big striker , but he couldn't do any worse than rantie .. But I'm not sure if he is still on the books . Eddie has got to try different players up front . apart from grabban , the players he keeps playing ain't good enough .
[quote][p][bold]gtd[/bold] wrote: Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal??????????????[/p][/quote]not pitman don't you know anything about football . Pitman ain't good enough for the championship . I think we should give stockely 5 or 6 games . Or maybe try tubbs , I know he isn't a big striker , but he couldn't do any worse than rantie .. But I'm not sure if he is still on the books . Eddie has got to try different players up front . apart from grabban , the players he keeps playing ain't good enough . Nat1234

9:34am Sun 15 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.
At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!!

Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.
Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.
So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom....
A certain Mr HR
he said in his interview he will be back.
What about the west brom manager . He was sacked yesterday ..
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Okay now all the loonies have been on and had their say,sack the manager,get a tall striker etc etc perhaps someone should mention that our passing and movement today was of the highest quality and a joy to watch.yes we didn't have an end product and yes mistakes cost us dear but on another day it will happen and if we play like that consistently then we will finish mid table.[/p][/quote]At last a voice of reason in the amongst the rest of the dross!! Amazing how losing a game brings out the ejits but win a game and they say nothing.[/p][/quote]Losing A game, think you mean losing many games, on the verge of relegation, we are not happy with the managment. Open your eyes.[/p][/quote]So who will you replace Eddie Howe with? Come on let's hear your pearls of wisdom....[/p][/quote]A certain Mr HR he said in his interview he will be back.[/p][/quote]What about the west brom manager . He was sacked yesterday .. Nat1234

9:38am Sun 15 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

holdinkæft wrote:
rogthedodge123 wrote:
Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season
Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home
Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today
Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team
Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result
Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display
Fact 7 No speculation here
Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals
Fact 9
24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship .
Fact 10
We will not go down
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display Fact 7 No speculation here[/p][/quote]Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals[/p][/quote]Fact 9 24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship . Fact 10 We will not go down Talkingheadera

9:39am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

swanagecherrie wrote:
MarkS1973 wrote:
Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience.

We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.
Your right this is a championship team in development, nobody with any sense expected more than survival this season. But the last 10 games which lets be real is a fair chunk of the season has been relegation material. I personally don't think its panic time until after the January transfers are finished thats where the managers will show there stuff and we will see if we are a big enough club to survive in this league. Either way I have supported Afcb from the bottom of League 2 to the championship and will continue to do so what ever league we are in.
Thats good,
Ive supported the cherries when we where bottom of the 4th division.
Late 50s till now.
[quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkS1973[/bold] wrote: Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience. We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.[/p][/quote]Your right this is a championship team in development, nobody with any sense expected more than survival this season. But the last 10 games which lets be real is a fair chunk of the season has been relegation material. I personally don't think its panic time until after the January transfers are finished thats where the managers will show there stuff and we will see if we are a big enough club to survive in this league. Either way I have supported Afcb from the bottom of League 2 to the championship and will continue to do so what ever league we are in.[/p][/quote]Thats good, Ive supported the cherries when we where bottom of the 4th division. Late 50s till now. holdinkæft

9:44am Sun 15 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.
You really are a dick. Did you go today? Or do you ever go?
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.[/p][/quote]Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.[/p][/quote]You really are a dick. Did you go today? Or do you ever go? Talkingheadera

9:49am Sun 15 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

Nat1234 wrote:
gtd wrote:
Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals
Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal??????????????
not pitman don't you know anything about football . Pitman ain't good enough for the championship . I think we should give stockely 5 or 6 games . Or maybe try tubbs , I know he isn't a big striker , but he couldn't do any worse than rantie .. But I'm not sure if he is still on the books . Eddie has got to try different players up front . apart from grabban , the players he keeps playing ain't good enough .
Yes they are good enough as they are holding their own.
Outplaying a lot of sides.
We will not go down
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gtd[/bold] wrote: Let's go back to Grabban and Pitman up front; who knows they might get some goals Why do we get up to the box and pass side to side? Is Matt Ritchie the only one who knows you have to shoot at the goal??????????????[/p][/quote]not pitman don't you know anything about football . Pitman ain't good enough for the championship . I think we should give stockely 5 or 6 games . Or maybe try tubbs , I know he isn't a big striker , but he couldn't do any worse than rantie .. But I'm not sure if he is still on the books . Eddie has got to try different players up front . apart from grabban , the players he keeps playing ain't good enough .[/p][/quote]Yes they are good enough as they are holding their own. Outplaying a lot of sides. We will not go down Talkingheadera

10:03am Sun 15 Dec 13

canfordcherry says...

I think we controlled the game well, yes we need a competent striker to finish the chances we make and yes we make a few mistakes in defence which cost us the odd goal (or 2) but remember who the opposition are. The majority of teams we are playing this season are used to grinding out results in this league and higher. People are saying that at this rate we will only finish mid table....... I would settle for that in our first season back at this level! Maybe we need to rethink our tactics for next season as opponents will see through us quickly, but personally I love the style of football we play at present.
As for the manager, we should all give him and the team our full support and let the guys who put he money in make the hard decisions.
Remember where we were recently as a club and enjoy what we are achieving presently.
I think we controlled the game well, yes we need a competent striker to finish the chances we make and yes we make a few mistakes in defence which cost us the odd goal (or 2) but remember who the opposition are. The majority of teams we are playing this season are used to grinding out results in this league and higher. People are saying that at this rate we will only finish mid table....... I would settle for that in our first season back at this level! Maybe we need to rethink our tactics for next season as opponents will see through us quickly, but personally I love the style of football we play at present. As for the manager, we should all give him and the team our full support and let the guys who put he money in make the hard decisions. Remember where we were recently as a club and enjoy what we are achieving presently. canfordcherry

10:11am Sun 15 Dec 13

Born in Bmth says...

rednblack37 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
fozzie bear wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please
So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway!
How about Danny Ings and Sam Vokes? If only.
[quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fozzie bear[/bold] wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath![/p][/quote]I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please[/p][/quote]So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway![/p][/quote]How about Danny Ings and Sam Vokes? If only. Born in Bmth

10:12am Sun 15 Dec 13

kentcherry says...

How did we not win the game ?? The entire team played their part and produced a great display of high quality football (especially the dynamic O'Kane). However, we failed to take advantage of the numerous crosses pinged into the box and I don't recall a single header on target. There is work to be done on the training ground and possibly in the transfer market but are more than capable of staying in this division and pushing on next season.
How did we not win the game ?? The entire team played their part and produced a great display of high quality football (especially the dynamic O'Kane). However, we failed to take advantage of the numerous crosses pinged into the box and I don't recall a single header on target. There is work to be done on the training ground and possibly in the transfer market but are more than capable of staying in this division and pushing on next season. kentcherry

10:17am Sun 15 Dec 13

devon fan says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
rogthedodge123 wrote:
Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season
Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home
Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today
Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team
Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result
Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display
Fact 7 No speculation here
Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals
Fact 9
24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship .
Fact 10
We will not go down
I am sorry but with the stats you show although look very impressive, we still lost the match and this is not the first game we have lost despit impressive stats, and this is just the reason we will be relegated if we do not start to deliver what we promise, after 19 matches we are not suddenly going to turn into a match winning team
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display Fact 7 No speculation here[/p][/quote]Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals[/p][/quote]Fact 9 24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship . Fact 10 We will not go down[/p][/quote]I am sorry but with the stats you show although look very impressive, we still lost the match and this is not the first game we have lost despit impressive stats, and this is just the reason we will be relegated if we do not start to deliver what we promise, after 19 matches we are not suddenly going to turn into a match winning team devon fan

10:19am Sun 15 Dec 13

abc100 says...

rednblack37 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
fozzie bear wrote:
been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath!
I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please
So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway!
Yeah I do want him in our team, Grabbon is our top scorer and he also has been on the bench for us this season, he is exactly the type of forward we need
[quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fozzie bear[/bold] wrote: been saying it for a while now, we need to 'rescue' Leon Clarke from Lge1 football. Big, strong, awkward & chips in with a few goals-it's a no-brainer! Don't wanna be a pessimist but I wont hold my breath![/p][/quote]I too have been asking for him since the start of the season and I also posted that earlier this evening at 6.02pm, I notice he was on the bench today for Coventry, get him Eddie please[/p][/quote]So he can't even get into the Coventry team at League 1 level and you want him in our team in the division above???? Get a grip, there are other strikers out there, I bet Eddie knows who he would like, but it's a pointless discussion until January 1st anyway![/p][/quote]Yeah I do want him in our team, Grabbon is our top scorer and he also has been on the bench for us this season, he is exactly the type of forward we need abc100

10:21am Sun 15 Dec 13

alasdair1967 says...

Some people need to get a life, quicker than rats up a drainpipe to post there bile when the team lose ,yet where are there congratulatory posts when the team wins ,they have the audacity to call themselves supporters,as for that idiot up in Lincoln I'm sure he gets some form of sexual gratification when we lose
Some people need to get a life, quicker than rats up a drainpipe to post there bile when the team lose ,yet where are there congratulatory posts when the team wins ,they have the audacity to call themselves supporters,as for that idiot up in Lincoln I'm sure he gets some form of sexual gratification when we lose alasdair1967

10:29am Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1. Doddler

10:55am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
rogthedodge123 wrote:
Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season
Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home
Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today
Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team
Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result
Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display
Fact 7 No speculation here
Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals
Fact 9
24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship .
Fact 10
We will not go down
Fact 11 we scored no goals
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: Fact 1 Our best performance at home this season Fact 2 Birmingham are the worst team we have played at home Fact 3 The team were very very unlucky to lose today Fact 4 No need to change a thing as this could be the winning team Fact 5 I really enjoyed an exciting game today and appreciated all the work and effort the team put into it.despite the wrong result Fact 6 Euane O Kane has stepped up to another level....awesome display Fact 7 No speculation here[/p][/quote]Fact 8 we played with 1 forward = 0 goals[/p][/quote]Fact 9 24 shots. 66% possession, the highest stats in the championship . Fact 10 We will not go down[/p][/quote]Fact 11 we scored no goals holdinkæft

10:58am Sun 15 Dec 13

Square Old Codger says...

MarkS1973 wrote:
Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience. We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.
Thoroughly agree with you, some players are developing well and are at home in this Division, others, clearly struggling,the aim this Season must be to stay in it ( and I believe that we will) improve the squad next Season and the one after that and then we will have a team capable of making a challenge. Last weeks win at Reading was simply because of clinical finishing four chances, two goals, it's quite possible that our players are almost trying too hard at home, get over anxious and "snatch" at chances, it's certainly true that we get our best resuults away. But we are making chances and one day some one is going to get thrashed. It may just be that a single good home win will set off a good run of results.
[quote][p][bold]MarkS1973[/bold] wrote: Was proud of the team today plus the support and backing. But let's be frank this is a championship team in development, its two / three effort year to stabilise at this level if we get the chance. Pretty sure Denim is a shrewd businessman and will show a degree of patience. We probably went up one year ahead of even what Eddie thought was possible in his wildest dreams. Some players have faired better than others at this level and Eddie is smart enough to move some on when the time is right. It's going to take time to get the right mix of the attractive football and the championship street wise mentality a number of visiting teams have shown us. Until then we will pick up surprise and disappointing results along the way.[/p][/quote]Thoroughly agree with you, some players are developing well and are at home in this Division, others, clearly struggling,the aim this Season must be to stay in it ( and I believe that we will) improve the squad next Season and the one after that and then we will have a team capable of making a challenge. Last weeks win at Reading was simply because of clinical finishing four chances, two goals, it's quite possible that our players are almost trying too hard at home, get over anxious and "snatch" at chances, it's certainly true that we get our best resuults away. But we are making chances and one day some one is going to get thrashed. It may just be that a single good home win will set off a good run of results. Square Old Codger

11:07am Sun 15 Dec 13

lofty1971 says...

Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!!

Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win?

No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what.
Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!! Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win? No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what. lofty1971

11:08am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Doddler wrote:
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
WELL SAID, great post.
we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out.
Change your system Howe, before its too late.
[quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID, great post. we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out. Change your system Howe, before its too late. holdinkæft

11:10am Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.
You really are a dick. Did you go today? Or do you ever go?
I didnt go today, i went yesterday
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.[/p][/quote]Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.[/p][/quote]You really are a dick. Did you go today? Or do you ever go?[/p][/quote]I didnt go today, i went yesterday holdinkæft

11:39am Sun 15 Dec 13

sea poole says...

Superb entertainment from the Cherries- total frustration at finishing. One thing I beg of the squad- PLEASE don't comment to the Echo. Everytime you do so, we finish up on the losing side -and it makes you look more ridiculous. Leave comments to the management, chairman or-in my wildest dreams- the owner!
Superb entertainment from the Cherries- total frustration at finishing. One thing I beg of the squad- PLEASE don't comment to the Echo. Everytime you do so, we finish up on the losing side -and it makes you look more ridiculous. Leave comments to the management, chairman or-in my wildest dreams- the owner! sea poole

11:47am Sun 15 Dec 13

gameon says...

Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?. gameon

12:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

gameon wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.
I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help.

I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later.

So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship.
[quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.[/p][/quote]I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help. I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later. So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship. Doddler

12:15pm Sun 15 Dec 13

gameon says...

Doddler wrote:
gameon wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.
I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help.

I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later.

So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship.
I agree With you except one thing the vote of confidence you suggest by the Chairman and directors Historicly means the impending Bullet at the moment this is Hyperthetical chat by all of us.
[quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.[/p][/quote]I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help. I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later. So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship.[/p][/quote]I agree With you except one thing the vote of confidence you suggest by the Chairman and directors Historicly means the impending Bullet at the moment this is Hyperthetical chat by all of us. gameon

12:52pm Sun 15 Dec 13

stevobath says...

When you see the form Ings & Vokes have been in, you can see why Eddie wanted them so badly?
I hope Rantie does come good but I think w may have spent too much on him?
We need a big strong CF. If we converted half our chances we'd be top 6 IMO.
We should be beating teams like Brum.
When you see the form Ings & Vokes have been in, you can see why Eddie wanted them so badly? I hope Rantie does come good but I think w may have spent too much on him? We need a big strong CF. If we converted half our chances we'd be top 6 IMO. We should be beating teams like Brum. stevobath

1:06pm Sun 15 Dec 13

abc100 says...

When we have made mistakes we have been punished and we do not punish the mistakes by our opponents, we have never had problems creating chances, just problems sticking the ball in the net, the experts say it's the hardest thing in football to do, we make it look impossible at times!!!!
When we have made mistakes we have been punished and we do not punish the mistakes by our opponents, we have never had problems creating chances, just problems sticking the ball in the net, the experts say it's the hardest thing in football to do, we make it look impossible at times!!!! abc100

1:19pm Sun 15 Dec 13

cromwell9 says...

Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off .
A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love.
These are the FACTS.
1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc.
2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners.
3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are.
4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice.
5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak .
Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more).
6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club.
But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward.
We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat.
7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.)
8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU.






.
Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. . cromwell9

1:29pm Sun 15 Dec 13

susi.m says...

lofty1971 wrote:
Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!!

Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win?

No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what.
Agree. No one out there that are the true supporters want other that Eddie and Jase.
[quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!! Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win? No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what.[/p][/quote]Agree. No one out there that are the true supporters want other that Eddie and Jase. susi.m

1:34pm Sun 15 Dec 13

susi.m says...

Doddler wrote:
gameon wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.
I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help.

I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later.

So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship.
What Manager would you actually want, who is available and would be better ? I have been through all I can think of anyone that would be better and have come up with no one decent.
The aim is to stay up. If its by one point then that's just fine with me.
[quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with some of what you comment on unfortuanately pretty play doesnt put points on the board like it or not the facts are we got beat 2-0 and its points that matter not pussyfooting pass it square pass it back tactics Eddie and Tindall look clueless in the Photo above how long will it be before Our Comrads call Messrs Howe and Tindall to the Office?.[/p][/quote]I very much agree about the need to play more direct, purposeful football rather than that of the pretty pretty variety (see my earlier post) - but castigating Eddie and Jason will really NOT help. I for one, hope they will be called into Mr Demin's office. Not for a dressing down (as you would seem to suggest) - but for a vote of confidence. We have so much to thank them for, and I suggest that we get even more behind them. Their intentions are very laudable and, perhaps in other circumstances, pretty football might be the order of the day. But our first season back in this division is all about survival and grinding out the points to secure it. That will be pleasure enough for me - let the exhibition stuff follow later. So, thank you Eddie, thank you Jason for all you've done for AFCB. But now might just be the time to swallow a bit of artistic pride (just a tad) and grind out our survival in the Championship.[/p][/quote]What Manager would you actually want, who is available and would be better ? I have been through all I can think of anyone that would be better and have come up with no one decent. The aim is to stay up. If its by one point then that's just fine with me. susi.m

1:50pm Sun 15 Dec 13

countrycherry says...

I think it's down to loss of confidence now when we get near goal. We totally out played Birmingham the result was a travesty had we not conceded that early goal the game would have been so different ,however my heart is still in my mouth when Camp plays a short ball out to the back four ! On another tack, why does anyone pay any attention at all to that idiot up north ?
I think it's down to loss of confidence now when we get near goal. We totally out played Birmingham the result was a travesty had we not conceded that early goal the game would have been so different ,however my heart is still in my mouth when Camp plays a short ball out to the back four ! On another tack, why does anyone pay any attention at all to that idiot up north ? countrycherry

2:04pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

susi.m wrote:
lofty1971 wrote:
Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!!

Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win?

No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what.
Agree. No one out there that are the true supporters want other that Eddie and Jase.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lofty1971[/bold] wrote: Harry Redknapp or Steve Clarke are the nominees so far then. Ha feckin Ha!! Both way in excess of £1m a year contracts and in the case of one likes to spend other peoples money like its a lottery win? No thanks I'll stick with Eddie and Jason thanks no matter what.[/p][/quote]Agree. No one out there that are the true supporters want other that Eddie and Jase.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Cherry Tony

2:07pm Sun 15 Dec 13

big_afcb_fan says...

EH out!!!! sick of the pretty tactics with no goals scored.
EH out!!!! sick of the pretty tactics with no goals scored. big_afcb_fan

2:14pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off .
A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love.
These are the FACTS.
1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc.
2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners.
3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are.
4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice.
5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak .
Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more).
6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club.
But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward.
We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat.
7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.)
8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU.






.
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages. Doddler

2:42pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Doddler wrote:
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
WELL SAID, great post.
we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out.
Change your system Howe, before its too late.
Absolute rubbish.
The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets.
I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that.
If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot.
Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID, great post. we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out. Change your system Howe, before its too late.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish. The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets. I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that. If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot. Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league. Talkingheadera

2:55pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Doddler wrote:
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
WELL SAID, great post.
we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out.
Change your system Howe, before its too late.
Absolute rubbish.
The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets.
I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that.
If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot.
Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.
I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us.
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID, great post. we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out. Change your system Howe, before its too late.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish. The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets. I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that. If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot. Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us. Doddler

3:13pm Sun 15 Dec 13

eaststandman says...

Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman?

Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season?

Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield.

Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !!
Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman? Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season? Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield. Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !! eaststandman

3:19pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

Doddler wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Doddler wrote:
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
WELL SAID, great post.
we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out.
Change your system Howe, before its too late.
Absolute rubbish.
The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets.
I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that.
If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot.
Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.
I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us.
Oh really!
So we are a huge 3 points from 14th spot.
Oh that's a huge ask isn't it to reach. Not even half way through the season and we can't make up 3 points.!
[quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID, great post. we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out. Change your system Howe, before its too late.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish. The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets. I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that. If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot. Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us.[/p][/quote]Oh really! So we are a huge 3 points from 14th spot. Oh that's a huge ask isn't it to reach. Not even half way through the season and we can't make up 3 points.! Talkingheadera

3:52pm Sun 15 Dec 13

abc100 says...

eaststandman wrote:
Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman?

Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season?

Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield.

Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !!
I don't think everyone is anti pitman, some are but I think we all agree that if he is not going to play up front then there is little point him playing elsewhere, he was injured at the start of the season and then when back asked to play deeper which clearly he struggled with, obviously Grabbon plays but who with? I think it's more disappointment with Brett cos those of us that have watched him a lot over the years know what he is capable of but it just hasn't happened this season, he certainly is a player that divides opinion, yesterday he was described on here as "hopeless" that he certainly is not
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman? Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season? Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield. Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !![/p][/quote]I don't think everyone is anti pitman, some are but I think we all agree that if he is not going to play up front then there is little point him playing elsewhere, he was injured at the start of the season and then when back asked to play deeper which clearly he struggled with, obviously Grabbon plays but who with? I think it's more disappointment with Brett cos those of us that have watched him a lot over the years know what he is capable of but it just hasn't happened this season, he certainly is a player that divides opinion, yesterday he was described on here as "hopeless" that he certainly is not abc100

3:58pm Sun 15 Dec 13

gtd says...

eaststandman wrote:
Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman?

Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season?

Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield.

Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !!
Absolutely agree.
Anyone who can remember his goals should realise that he is a natural goalscorer; he just needs confidence.
Eddie must play him .We need people in the box who want to score rather than pass ball backwards and forwards until we lose it..
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman? Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season? Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield. Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !![/p][/quote]Absolutely agree. Anyone who can remember his goals should realise that he is a natural goalscorer; he just needs confidence. Eddie must play him .We need people in the box who want to score rather than pass ball backwards and forwards until we lose it.. gtd

4:03pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

eaststandman wrote:
Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman?

Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season?

Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield.

Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !!
Sorry, but I don't agree your point re the stats. The 19 goals last season were in a very different league. He's been near enough to the goal this season to have put a few away but hasn't. And if you look at the scoring stats of others, you will see that when he's in the team it seems to have an adverse effect on them (Grabban in particular). Don't get me wrong - we owe him much for his good work last season - but we're now in a different league and, I fear, the jury's still out as to whether he can make the step up. I hope I'm wrong. I really do!
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman? Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season? Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield. Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !![/p][/quote]Sorry, but I don't agree your point re the stats. The 19 goals last season were in a very different league. He's been near enough to the goal this season to have put a few away but hasn't. And if you look at the scoring stats of others, you will see that when he's in the team it seems to have an adverse effect on them (Grabban in particular). Don't get me wrong - we owe him much for his good work last season - but we're now in a different league and, I fear, the jury's still out as to whether he can make the step up. I hope I'm wrong. I really do! Doddler

4:19pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
Doddler wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Doddler wrote:
OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression!

We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season.

I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points?

Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.
WELL SAID, great post.
we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out.
Change your system Howe, before its too late.
Absolute rubbish.
The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets.
I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that.
If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot.
Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.
I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us.
Oh really!
So we are a huge 3 points from 14th spot.
Oh that's a huge ask isn't it to reach. Not even half way through the season and we can't make up 3 points.!
Yes, really! If you could look beyond the purely mathematical stat of where we are today, you might perhaps notice that the majority of teams we play are able to work us out and take the field with a game plan that, mostly, we are not able to combat. I just wish that this could happen the other way round - and that we would be able to negate their tactics a bit more. The points we now have in the bag are, to some extent, less relevant than our downward drift and inability to tactically outwit opponents. Three points might not seem much but it only takes one to get relegated - and the way we're going at the moment, things are hardly looking rosy.
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: OK - so it's pleasing to see our team play attractive flowing football. But, as I've said before, there are no points awarded for artistic impression! We dominate possession, overwhelm the opposition with far more shots, corners and passes yet we still don't win or score - or even take a point. And all this against arguably the poorest team we have played this season. I make a long journey to most AFCB home matches in the hope that the team will score goals, not let in too many - and win a good deal more than we lose. And having been a Cherries supporter for over 50 years I've witnessed most of the club's history in that time - both good and bad. I love our flowing style of play - but what might be the cost if it doesn't bring goals, clean sheets or points? Please, Mr Howe, could you not recognise that many of us don't just want to see pretty football - we want to see the team winning matches and points - and sometimes - perhaps more often than not - we'd be just as happy to see the team win ugly than lose pretty. Please just recognise that and abandon a failing system that could even end up by dumping us back in League 1.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID, great post. we did well to start the season, then the other teams sussed us out. Change your system Howe, before its too late.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish. The entertaining brand of football we are playing is why the attendance figures are holding up very nicely. We havnt won at home since October and the fans have stuck by the club and the team because they are playing well and dominating much larger clubs with much larger budgets. I predicted a 14th position and I stock by that. If anyone seriously thinks the club in its present form can do much better than mid table in this league is deluded. The very fact that we are competing very well and gaining some glowing praises from opposition managers says a lot. Eddie is doing a great job and the need is to consolidate as a championship side. People also forget we can't compete on wages with the majority in this league.[/p][/quote]I hope you're right - about 14th position - but that's not how it's looking at the moment. And you do need to remember that the loyal fans you mention are turning up to support the team are actually doing so in the hope of a few victories at Dean Court. That doesn't necessarily imply pretty football, it means points in the bag. It's the only way we will reach your hoped-for target of 14th place. I'm delighted too that we're getting excellent, glowing, reports from opposing teams. But that's usually after they've beaten us.[/p][/quote]Oh really! So we are a huge 3 points from 14th spot. Oh that's a huge ask isn't it to reach. Not even half way through the season and we can't make up 3 points.![/p][/quote]Yes, really! If you could look beyond the purely mathematical stat of where we are today, you might perhaps notice that the majority of teams we play are able to work us out and take the field with a game plan that, mostly, we are not able to combat. I just wish that this could happen the other way round - and that we would be able to negate their tactics a bit more. The points we now have in the bag are, to some extent, less relevant than our downward drift and inability to tactically outwit opponents. Three points might not seem much but it only takes one to get relegated - and the way we're going at the moment, things are hardly looking rosy. Doddler

4:24pm Sun 15 Dec 13

matt68 says...

rednblack37 wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote:
Normal service resumed. Regards.
As your wife said after just 30 seconds.
his mum!!
[quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]As your wife said after just 30 seconds.[/p][/quote]his mum!! matt68

4:49pm Sun 15 Dec 13

eaststandman says...

Also I cannot believe the comments on here.

This was the same team that won last week !!

7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday.

If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.
Also I cannot believe the comments on here. This was the same team that won last week !! 7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday. If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club. eaststandman

5:02pm Sun 15 Dec 13

big_afcb_fan says...

eaststandman wrote:
Also I cannot believe the comments on here.

This was the same team that won last week !!

7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday.

If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.
shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough!
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Also I cannot believe the comments on here. This was the same team that won last week !! 7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday. If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.[/p][/quote]shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough! big_afcb_fan

5:03pm Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off .
A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love.
These are the FACTS.
1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc.
2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners.
3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are.
4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice.
5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak .
Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more).
6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club.
But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward.
We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat.
7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.)
8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU.






.
well said young man, we need a manager with balls. Someone to tell Pugh Pitman, Daniels and Francis they should look for a new club as they aint championship players.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]well said young man, we need a manager with balls. Someone to tell Pugh Pitman, Daniels and Francis they should look for a new club as they aint championship players. holdinkæft

5:16pm Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

eaststandman wrote:
Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman?

Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season?

Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield.

Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !!
so you also think Pitman is no championship player, and Howe doesnt have a clue, welcome to the club.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Not sure why everyone is anti Pitman? Is that the same Pitman who scored 19 goals in the second half of last season? Difficult for any proven goalscorer to score, sat on the bench OR when he is allowed on, has to play in midfield. Am struggling to understand why Eddie won't let him near the goal? The stats are showing he's wrong !![/p][/quote]so you also think Pitman is no championship player, and Howe doesnt have a clue, welcome to the club. holdinkæft

5:30pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

Did you go to Reading last week holdinkaft?
Did you go to Reading last week holdinkaft? Cherry Tony

5:31pm Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

big_afcb_fan wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Also I cannot believe the comments on here.

This was the same team that won last week !!

7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday.

If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.
shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough!
we have something in this country called FREE SPEECH, maybe you prefer North Korean tactics.
[quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Also I cannot believe the comments on here. This was the same team that won last week !! 7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday. If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.[/p][/quote]shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough![/p][/quote]we have something in this country called FREE SPEECH, maybe you prefer North Korean tactics. holdinkæft

5:37pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Cherry Tony says...

holdinkæft wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Also I cannot believe the comments on here.

This was the same team that won last week !!

7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday.

If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.
shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough!
we have something in this country called FREE SPEECH, maybe you prefer North Korean tactics.
But everything that you say is contradictory to that of a real fan. Did you go to Reading last week?
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Also I cannot believe the comments on here. This was the same team that won last week !! 7 days later , they're after the managers head. Though, clearly, the only ones doing that obviously weren't at Reading or probably at DC yesterday. If the Echo want to give us an Xmas present - they could shut down a couple of contributors on here. Especially the one from Lincolnshire who has NIL knowledge of this club.[/p][/quote]shows what little you know. i was even at middlesbrough![/p][/quote]we have something in this country called FREE SPEECH, maybe you prefer North Korean tactics.[/p][/quote]But everything that you say is contradictory to that of a real fan. Did you go to Reading last week? Cherry Tony

7:21pm Sun 15 Dec 13

raybren says...

I think Willo got it right on Solent . He was talking about the final ball not being good enough . So I think in January , along with one or two signings , we should employ a forward coach , someone who has been round the block . He would have the savvy that Eddie and Jason lack in that area .
I think Willo got it right on Solent . He was talking about the final ball not being good enough . So I think in January , along with one or two signings , we should employ a forward coach , someone who has been round the block . He would have the savvy that Eddie and Jason lack in that area . raybren

8:12pm Sun 15 Dec 13

white 147 says...

Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers,
Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers, white 147

8:42pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Who_R_Ya says...

white 147 wrote:
Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers,
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]white 147[/bold] wrote: Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers,[/p][/quote]Spot on Who_R_Ya

8:50pm Sun 15 Dec 13

abc100 says...

white 147 wrote:
Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers,
How smug of you to say we all miss the point, we all know that goals win games but as fans of Afcb we would also like to see our team play some good football, a happy medium. But thank you for pointing out that you are the only one that can see it!!!
[quote][p][bold]white 147[/bold] wrote: Every one on here misses the point. We can have as much of the game but we need to score goals. so playing well and loosing is not the way forward. In this division you need to win and not play fancy football and loose. Why play 1 up front at home when we need to win, change it Eddie and play 2 strikers,[/p][/quote]How smug of you to say we all miss the point, we all know that goals win games but as fans of Afcb we would also like to see our team play some good football, a happy medium. But thank you for pointing out that you are the only one that can see it!!! abc100

9:43pm Sun 15 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.
Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.
Maybe Mitchell will want Howe with him at Poole, lets hope he takes Pugh, Danials and Pitman with him.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]the name of the game is to score goals. so fantastic means nothing, WE NEED a manager with BALLS.[/p][/quote]Howe is quite clearly at his best operating with a limited budget in the lower leagues. Maybe a place could be found for him at Portsmouth, although I doubt they would meet the wage that he demanded on his departure from Burnley. Perhaps supporters would heave a sigh of relief when we return to League One. We would only have three stands again, but at least their Messiah would still be at the helm and the praising could continue. Regards.[/p][/quote]Maybe Mitchell will want Howe with him at Poole, lets hope he takes Pugh, Danials and Pitman with him. holdinkæft

10:58pm Sun 15 Dec 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

abc100 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..
Come on then, who should we try to sign??
Anyone from Littledown Jrs would be better than these raspberries!
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We were fantastic today ' the best we've played all season . But WE MUST GET A PROVEN GOAL SCORER . If we had a big tuff centre forward today . We would of won easily , we need someone who can hit the target . But saying that , it was a very good game ..[/p][/quote]Come on then, who should we try to sign??[/p][/quote]Anyone from Littledown Jrs would be better than these raspberries! HRH of Boscombe

11:15pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Doddler says...

raybren wrote:
I think Willo got it right on Solent . He was talking about the final ball not being good enough . So I think in January , along with one or two signings , we should employ a forward coach , someone who has been round the block . He would have the savvy that Eddie and Jason lack in that area .
Excellent idea. I'm sure it would make a difference.
[quote][p][bold]raybren[/bold] wrote: I think Willo got it right on Solent . He was talking about the final ball not being good enough . So I think in January , along with one or two signings , we should employ a forward coach , someone who has been round the block . He would have the savvy that Eddie and Jason lack in that area .[/p][/quote]Excellent idea. I'm sure it would make a difference. Doddler

7:57am Mon 16 Dec 13

Steveo123 says...

Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!!
Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!! Steveo123

8:18am Mon 16 Dec 13

Les_Mahagow says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
Mike Oxbig wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.
Yep, you being a dick as usual.!!!!
Surprisingly quiet last week Oxbig, why was that? yet again you prove your excellent ability to make yourself look like a prize plonker, but i guess that is the story of your life. You should change your name from Oxbig to Oxygen Thief.
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: Normal service resumed. Regards.[/p][/quote]Yep, you being a dick as usual.!!!![/p][/quote]Surprisingly quiet last week Oxbig, why was that? yet again you prove your excellent ability to make yourself look like a prize plonker, but i guess that is the story of your life. You should change your name from Oxbig to Oxygen Thief. Les_Mahagow

8:20am Mon 16 Dec 13

Doddler says...

Steveo123 wrote:
Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!!
I should have thought that the whole point has been that there are NO EASY GAMES in this division. We'd be streets ahead of any rivals in League 1 perhaps but the Championship is far from League 1. Don't know how many AFCB games you've attended this season, but the opposition (even Birmingham) have been of another class altogether.
[quote][p][bold]Steveo123[/bold] wrote: Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!![/p][/quote]I should have thought that the whole point has been that there are NO EASY GAMES in this division. We'd be streets ahead of any rivals in League 1 perhaps but the Championship is far from League 1. Don't know how many AFCB games you've attended this season, but the opposition (even Birmingham) have been of another class altogether. Doddler

8:21am Mon 16 Dec 13

Les_Mahagow says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Another manager just been fired. the christmas period will be interesing, whos next Mr Howe. a bad time to take up gardening.
Knob
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Another manager just been fired. the christmas period will be interesing, whos next Mr Howe. a bad time to take up gardening.[/p][/quote]Knob Les_Mahagow

8:36am Mon 16 Dec 13

Steveo123 says...

Sorry mate don't agree....Been to only 4 games this season (work shifts)....
We are more than holding our own !!,, What were you watching,, we were all over Birmingham..(. Obviously its goals that matter ),,, but they'll come, that's football..... AND by easy, we are not playing top 6 team like Reading , which incidentally we won...Wednesday don't even have a manager... 2 - 0 to us.....
You are supposed to be a SUPPORTER !!! ?
Sorry mate don't agree....Been to only 4 games this season (work shifts).... We are more than holding our own !!,, What were you watching,, we were all over Birmingham..(. Obviously its goals that matter ),,, but they'll come, that's football..... AND by easy, we are not playing top 6 team like Reading , which incidentally we won...Wednesday don't even have a manager... 2 - 0 to us..... You are supposed to be a SUPPORTER !!! ? Steveo123

2:46pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Square Old Codger says...

Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
[quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. . Square Old Codger

5:10pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Dukecherry says...

Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them).
I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place.
SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet.
Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust!
A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track.
And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.
[quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them). I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place. SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet. Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust! A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track. And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club. Dukecherry

6:42pm Mon 16 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Steveo123 wrote:
Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!!
do you want to have a bet on that statement.
500 says your wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Steveo123[/bold] wrote: Clam Down Dear !!! Some easy games coming up. we'll be mid table after Xas...Relax !!![/p][/quote]do you want to have a bet on that statement. 500 says your wrong. holdinkæft

6:47pm Mon 16 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Steveo123 wrote:
Sorry mate don't agree....Been to only 4 games this season (work shifts)....
We are more than holding our own !!,, What were you watching,, we were all over Birmingham..(. Obviously its goals that matter ),,, but they'll come, that's football..... AND by easy, we are not playing top 6 team like Reading , which incidentally we won...Wednesday don't even have a manager... 2 - 0 to us.....
You are supposed to be a SUPPORTER !!! ?
I will copy others....
KNOB TROLL, PR@TT
We are great in the Noth,East end
[quote][p][bold]Steveo123[/bold] wrote: Sorry mate don't agree....Been to only 4 games this season (work shifts).... We are more than holding our own !!,, What were you watching,, we were all over Birmingham..(. Obviously its goals that matter ),,, but they'll come, that's football..... AND by easy, we are not playing top 6 team like Reading , which incidentally we won...Wednesday don't even have a manager... 2 - 0 to us..... You are supposed to be a SUPPORTER !!! ?[/p][/quote]I will copy others.... KNOB TROLL, PR@TT We are great in the Noth,East end holdinkæft

6:51pm Mon 16 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Dukecherry wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them).
I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place.
SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet.
Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust!
A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track.
And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.
Nice one.
[quote][p][bold]Dukecherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them). I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place. SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet. Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust! A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track. And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.[/p][/quote]Nice one. holdinkæft

7:05pm Mon 16 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Dukecherry wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them).
I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place.
SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet.
Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust!
A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track.
And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.
Nice one.
I work for a big eurepean company, if your not wanted you get 10 mins to pack your things, taxi waiting, thanks for the 25 years. goodbye.
its the modern world. of course we will pay your contract payments.
KICK THEM OUT IF THEY DONT FIT, HOWE AND PUGH we are watching you.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukecherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them). I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place. SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet. Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust! A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track. And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.[/p][/quote]Nice one.[/p][/quote]I work for a big eurepean company, if your not wanted you get 10 mins to pack your things, taxi waiting, thanks for the 25 years. goodbye. its the modern world. of course we will pay your contract payments. KICK THEM OUT IF THEY DONT FIT, HOWE AND PUGH we are watching you. holdinkæft

11:41pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Dukecherry says...

holdinkæft wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Dukecherry wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them).
I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place.
SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet.
Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust!
A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track.
And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.
Nice one.
I work for a big eurepean company, if your not wanted you get 10 mins to pack your things, taxi waiting, thanks for the 25 years. goodbye.
its the modern world. of course we will pay your contract payments.
KICK THEM OUT IF THEY DONT FIT, HOWE AND PUGH we are watching you.
Sorry mate but your attitude and comments are sometimes lacking in decorum. I am gutted to see you are not the only one. This is no a place to vilify good servants of the club, albeit those we do not agree with.
Whoever you work with/for is of no business to the fans. If you cannot continue to talk football and express a respectful and meaningful opinion you should not post. EH has proved his worth to the club but needs to reconsider his options, seriously. Pugh is a class act but has been playing in a set up that is not compatible with the players on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukecherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]To describe cromwell9's assessment of the situation as a fantasy is an understatement. Eddie Mitchel turned the club into a cow he could not stop milking. His appointment of Bradbury followed by Groves and Brooks was going to be the last nail in AFCB's coffin. I am not sure how Max Demin was lured into the equation remains a mystery. One thing is certain though, he is not going to sit unmoved while his funds are frittered away. Things may have turned around After EH's arrival but that could not have happened without the commitment of the SAME players who were not delivering under his predecessors. Regrettably, promotion proved too big for EH to handle in terms of man-management at Championship level (as was the case with Burnley) and in terms of strengthening the squad (bringing in players in the wrong positions and paying excessive money for them). I was not at the Birmingham game, but judging by the posts of the fans, there is no reason to doubt the quality of the football played by the team. So if we beat Reading, played well against Birmingham without the most expensive player we have why was he signed in the first place. SOC spoke about EH's honesty in a different thread which led me to make my own comments about his views. Thomas has not been on the bench for the last two games while other strikers can play one game after the other without scoring only to be included in the starting line up or be on the bench in he following game. We have one very good keeper who played for EH in the survival and promotion campaigns not given a single chance and is being forced out of the club, we have another decent keeper forced onto the club by Bradbury and was the subject of fans' slagging for weeks on end sitting on the bench waiting for EH's No.1 to make one howler after the other to get a sniff of game. All of a sudden we have two more goalkeeping heroes (having played less than 10 games for the club between them) costing us a fortune. One left injured, the other has yet to keep a clean sheet. Fans here want the club to buy more players while abusing the players who helped the team get promotion. Pugh, Pitman, Arter, Francis and even at one stage Grabban, our top scorer. Others call for a forward's coach because it is one area where EH and JT are not savvy. Yet in EH they trust! A wake up call is needed and a return to basics with sound use of available players should put AFCB back on track. And to the apologists I say: no manager is bigger than the club.[/p][/quote]Nice one.[/p][/quote]I work for a big eurepean company, if your not wanted you get 10 mins to pack your things, taxi waiting, thanks for the 25 years. goodbye. its the modern world. of course we will pay your contract payments. KICK THEM OUT IF THEY DONT FIT, HOWE AND PUGH we are watching you.[/p][/quote]Sorry mate but your attitude and comments are sometimes lacking in decorum. I am gutted to see you are not the only one. This is no a place to vilify good servants of the club, albeit those we do not agree with. Whoever you work with/for is of no business to the fans. If you cannot continue to talk football and express a respectful and meaningful opinion you should not post. EH has proved his worth to the club but needs to reconsider his options, seriously. Pugh is a class act but has been playing in a set up that is not compatible with the players on the pitch. Dukecherry

9:12am Tue 17 Dec 13

Steveo123 says...

holdinkæft says...

I will copy others....
KNOB TROLL, PR@TT
We are great in the Noth,East end


O Dear,, Not the brightest, !! When you resort to insulting people you loose...Retard...
holdinkæft says... I will copy others.... KNOB TROLL, PR@TT We are great in the Noth,East end O Dear,, Not the brightest, !! When you resort to insulting people you loose...Retard... Steveo123

4:00pm Tue 17 Dec 13

hoppy says...

Eddie Mitchell, saved the club !!! Eddie Mitchell saved himself & his family,no more & no less as he has done many times before & probably will again usually at a great financial loss to many other people.
Some of the comments on here are very sad.
Eddie Howe,hero one minute & scapegoat the next,there is just no pleasing some of you.
It is only a game but I agree one that we all wish we could win every time but hey!! you win some you lose some.
"Merry Christmas to you all" well most of you.
Eddie Mitchell, saved the club !!! Eddie Mitchell saved himself & his family,no more & no less as he has done many times before & probably will again usually at a great financial loss to many other people. Some of the comments on here are very sad. Eddie Howe,hero one minute & scapegoat the next,there is just no pleasing some of you. It is only a game but I agree one that we all wish we could win every time but hey!! you win some you lose some. "Merry Christmas to you all" well most of you. hoppy

8:04pm Tue 17 Dec 13

stanlake says...

Paying 2.5 million for a centreforward so small and slight as Rante, probably on the evidence of a few vidoes on You Tube, has proved a millstone round the neck of the manager who must feel he has to play him. Now that Ritchie is back
he should play in the hole behind Grabban and Pitman/Thomas with Fraser and Pugh on the wings with Rante used as a sub, but on the wing where his speed could be utilised. The defence should concentrate on getting the ball forward so the opposition is pressed and not presented with it by defenders running with the ball as Cook did against Birmingham.
Paying 2.5 million for a centreforward so small and slight as Rante, probably on the evidence of a few vidoes on You Tube, has proved a millstone round the neck of the manager who must feel he has to play him. Now that Ritchie is back he should play in the hole behind Grabban and Pitman/Thomas with Fraser and Pugh on the wings with Rante used as a sub, but on the wing where his speed could be utilised. The defence should concentrate on getting the ball forward so the opposition is pressed and not presented with it by defenders running with the ball as Cook did against Birmingham. stanlake

10:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
sad bitter old man
[quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]sad bitter old man WHYNOT

8:23am Thu 19 Dec 13

cromwell9 says...

WHYNOT wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
Doddler wrote:
cromwell9 wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .
Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.
I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .
sad bitter old man
You wont be so COCKY, WHEN WE GET RELEGATED.
THIS OLD MAN HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK MATE.
IF Eddy Howe has not got 30 points by New Years day . He is out the Door.
[quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doddler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Some of you are not going to like what I am about to say .But think about it before you slag me off . A lot of us have been supporting AFCB for over 50 yrs ,me included ,so we have all lived through the highs and lows of the club we love. These are the FACTS. 1. Eddie Mitchell saved the club from going bust ,turned the club around,and appointed Eddie Howe as our Manager.Spent a lot of money upgrading the stadium,etc. 2. The two Eddies got us to the Championship ,.With massive help from our Russian owners. 3.When the big BOSS left (Eddie Mitchell) certain players thought they could relax and have a easy ride.They know who they are. 4. Those same players also know that Eddie Howe is not going to be a cut throat and give up on a player who is not performing.In a nut shell Eddie is to nice. 5. Football is a nasty DOG EAT DOG game.N O ROOM FOR MR NICE GUY.Players will not give you any respect for being weak . Thats why when Eddie Mitchell was around ,.He was watching and listening,on a daily basis,so you knew you had to perform ,because he was paying your wages.Now he has gone.(say no more). 6. I love Eddie Howe and what he has done as manager for the club. But we have New Cut throat Russian owners.With ambition for this club to keep going forward. We all know they are ruthless ,and will change things at the drop of a hat. 7.So if ED cant turn it around by XMAS (he is out the door.) 8.Eddie Howe knows that as well .And so do YOU. .[/p][/quote]Though I agree with some of your sentiments, this post also includes a load of unsubstantiated baloney - i.e. (a) the assertion that some of our players are coasting and choosing an easy ride, (b) that AFCB's Russian owners are ruthless cut-throats - where does that come from? (c) that Christmas is a deadline and that Eddie & Jason will be out of the door if things haven't 'turned around'. And when you confidently assert that Eddie knows that - and so we WE - you are indulging yourself in nothing but abject speculation. I am constrained from using other words of an Anglo Saxon variety, but do hope that a greater touch of level-headedness and reason might be seen in the posts on these pages.[/p][/quote]I r ther suspect that you live in a fantasy world. The truth is that Eddie Mitchell ran the Club into the ground. Far from running the Club within it's income, he spent money like water, with ever increasing losses. He sold off the team Eddie and Jason built to pay the debts he had run up, losing Eddie and Jason in the process. Spent the £7 million Mr Demin lent the Club, appointed "duff" managers ( Eddie was appointed by Mitchell's predecessor, by the way) threw money away on sub standard players , paying high fees and giving then long contracts at high wages, and we are still lumbered with some. It was Max Demin that insisted on getting rid of "dumb and dumber and bringing Eddie and Jason back. It was the Russians that "closed their wallets" and insisted on living within the Club's income stream to force the Mitchells out. This all meant that Eddie was lumbered with players he didn't want and had to rely on free transfers and out of contract players freed by their Clubs. Mitchell hung on to the last minute to get the best deal for the shares he got for just £50, leaving as the transfer window closed. Mitchell has always had a strong sense of self interest and he did very well out of AFCB. .[/p][/quote]sad bitter old man[/p][/quote]You wont be so COCKY, WHEN WE GET RELEGATED. THIS OLD MAN HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK MATE. IF Eddy Howe has not got 30 points by New Years day . He is out the Door. cromwell9

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