Security guards called in as number of travellers at Slades Farm doubles

Security guards called in as number of travellers at Slades Farm doubles

Security guards called in as number of travellers at Slades Farm doubles

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THE number of caravans and campervans at Slades Farm has doubled since Friday evening - despite security guards on-hand to prevent further vehicles from entering the land.

As reported in the Daily Echo, around a dozen caravans and campervans arrived at the Ensbury Park ground last Friday during the evening, leading to the posting of security guards at the site to prevent further incursions.

However, by this morning, there were 24 vehicles on the land, many of which are believed to have arrived during the night.

It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week.

Bournemouth Borough councillor Susan Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said the issue is the council's “highest priority”.

She added: “I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be.

“In addition, we have the support of our MP Conor Burns and I'm keeping him fully informed.”

A spokesperson from the council said officers will seek a possession order of the site in county court tomorrow, which will mean the travellers can be evicted from the land.

The order is not tied to the number of caravans at the site, meaning that if more do arrive, the council won't have to start proceedings all over again.

A spokesperson from Dorset Police said there are regular patrols of the area, and officers are currently liasing with Bournemouth Borough Council.

Meanwhile, travellers who were on land behind Staples ahve moved on - leaving a skip full of rubbish and several empty gas cannisters lying on the ground.

Bournemouth Echo:

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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4:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

What a surprise,the guards did not want to know.
What a surprise,the guards did not want to know. pete woodley
  • Score: 41

4:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

So, if they can't even manage to put all the rubbish in the skips, I guess the portaloo will have a pile of crap and bog paper next to it as well......?
So, if they can't even manage to put all the rubbish in the skips, I guess the portaloo will have a pile of crap and bog paper next to it as well......? speedy231278
  • Score: 35

4:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

ol'bag lady says...

You really couldn't make this up!
You really couldn't make this up! ol'bag lady
  • Score: 35

4:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

retry69 says...

Anyone who is living around the area ,at least those I have spoken to are under no illusions that the security has done nothing to stop additional travellers going on site and have only acted in a advisory capacity to any of us who have asked questions.Someone previously stated that they were told that the police advised the security to let additional travellers in.It is now become an unbelievable situation with the lack of interest from local councillors becoming more apparent as the days go by
Anyone who is living around the area ,at least those I have spoken to are under no illusions that the security has done nothing to stop additional travellers going on site and have only acted in a advisory capacity to any of us who have asked questions.Someone previously stated that they were told that the police advised the security to let additional travellers in.It is now become an unbelievable situation with the lack of interest from local councillors becoming more apparent as the days go by retry69
  • Score: 63

4:26pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sir Cliff Topp says...

Dear oh dear, what a country this has become, full of second rate politicians and third rate news papers. :-)
Dear oh dear, what a country this has become, full of second rate politicians and third rate news papers. :-) Sir Cliff Topp
  • Score: 34

4:29pm Wed 30 Jul 14

West Cliff says...

Surely they must be able to create a law so that the Council don't have to keep going back to court to get them evicted ? Likewise on private land

Perhaps some sort of permit schema for Caravans and Motorhomes thats required with penalty being removal and crushing/disposal if you don't follow rules / have a permit
Surely they must be able to create a law so that the Council don't have to keep going back to court to get them evicted ? Likewise on private land Perhaps some sort of permit schema for Caravans and Motorhomes thats required with penalty being removal and crushing/disposal if you don't follow rules / have a permit West Cliff
  • Score: 30

4:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

heynow says...

Just do something already. How long does it take ? . Surely a police presence is required. They seem to have chased everyone else away. Are the Police just doing nothing.
Just do something already. How long does it take ? . Surely a police presence is required. They seem to have chased everyone else away. Are the Police just doing nothing. heynow
  • Score: 33

4:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW! Minty Fresh
  • Score: 98

4:41pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

“I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be."

Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows!
“I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be." Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows! BarrHumbug
  • Score: 35

4:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

rebelred says...

They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.
They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing. rebelred
  • Score: 21

4:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Baysider says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality." Baysider
  • Score: -46

4:51pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bambamthe1st says...

Utter bullsh-t
Could I apply for the job as security gaurd, not a bad job if you're told not to do anything. # easy life
Utter bullsh-t Could I apply for the job as security gaurd, not a bad job if you're told not to do anything. # easy life Bambamthe1st
  • Score: 26

4:56pm Wed 30 Jul 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Come Tobias and Conor help your constituents. Get the law changed!
Come Tobias and Conor help your constituents. Get the law changed! bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 37

4:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

askquestion says...

so much for the "hot footing " to court first thing Monday morning according to cllr Phillips !! why arent environmental health officers on site ? these people may be used to living in thier own excrement, but with children living close by, and the allotments growing food , im amazed that these verminous people are still allowed to stay.#

speaking with a local lady with a dog, she told us that the security ( misnomer ) staff had tried to stop more caravans onto the site, but the police had over ridden them ! maybe for the old bill, its better for them to be on Slades ,than police having to do thier job elsewhere in the county where there may be holiday makers. after all us locals dont count for anything ! just pay exorbitant taxes for the priviledge of living among scum.
so much for the "hot footing " to court first thing Monday morning according to cllr Phillips !! why arent environmental health officers on site ? these people may be used to living in thier own excrement, but with children living close by, and the allotments growing food , im amazed that these verminous people are still allowed to stay.# speaking with a local lady with a dog, she told us that the security ( misnomer ) staff had tried to stop more caravans onto the site, but the police had over ridden them ! maybe for the old bill, its better for them to be on Slades ,than police having to do thier job elsewhere in the county where there may be holiday makers. after all us locals dont count for anything ! just pay exorbitant taxes for the priviledge of living among scum. askquestion
  • Score: 33

5:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sir Cliff Topp says...

Bambamthe1st wrote:
Utter bullsh-t
Could I apply for the job as security gaurd, not a bad job if you're told not to do anything. # easy life
The security guards will be on minimum wage, the company they work for will be charging the council 20 to 25 pounds an hour each for them to be there, doing nothing.
They have no more legal powers than any Btitish citizen.
[quote][p][bold]Bambamthe1st[/bold] wrote: Utter bullsh-t Could I apply for the job as security gaurd, not a bad job if you're told not to do anything. # easy life[/p][/quote]The security guards will be on minimum wage, the company they work for will be charging the council 20 to 25 pounds an hour each for them to be there, doing nothing. They have no more legal powers than any Btitish citizen. Sir Cliff Topp
  • Score: 18

5:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

askquestion says...

i did email conor burns ! days ago. still waiting for response. hes probably away on his hols. why would he give a jot? as for all the hand wringing from the council. if they couldnt see this coming, then they really should try to live in this century, and maybe a visit to St Annes for some ect to wake them up. life is far too cushy for the council in this sleepy town. once you get through Winton, thats the end of the world as they know it.
i did email conor burns ! days ago. still waiting for response. hes probably away on his hols. why would he give a jot? as for all the hand wringing from the council. if they couldnt see this coming, then they really should try to live in this century, and maybe a visit to St Annes for some ect to wake them up. life is far too cushy for the council in this sleepy town. once you get through Winton, thats the end of the world as they know it. askquestion
  • Score: 13

5:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

rebelred wrote:
They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.
Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence?
[quote][p][bold]rebelred[/bold] wrote: They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.[/p][/quote]Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 57

5:07pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Townee says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
Come Tobias and Conor help your constituents. Get the law changed!
No chance that would mean work and aren't they on 6 weeks holiday. Southern Ireland doesn't allow them to pitch up anywhere and they don't worry about upsetting the EU why do we.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: Come Tobias and Conor help your constituents. Get the law changed![/p][/quote]No chance that would mean work and aren't they on 6 weeks holiday. Southern Ireland doesn't allow them to pitch up anywhere and they don't worry about upsetting the EU why do we. Townee
  • Score: 27

5:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Lucky Rich says...

All doom & gloom today folks ,,,travelers running a mock as they always do & loads more addicts coming to the area ...........all part of the county regeneration schemes i suppose.......the future does not look bright does it.......Lr.
All doom & gloom today folks ,,,travelers running a mock as they always do & loads more addicts coming to the area ...........all part of the county regeneration schemes i suppose.......the future does not look bright does it.......Lr. Lucky Rich
  • Score: 16

5:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sir Cliff Topp says...

They'll be back at Baiter Park or Hamworthy next week. If the council had any brains they would install a security barrier and guard now 24/7 who could then fone the old bill the minute they arrive.
They'll be back at Baiter Park or Hamworthy next week. If the council had any brains they would install a security barrier and guard now 24/7 who could then fone the old bill the minute they arrive. Sir Cliff Topp
  • Score: 13

5:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

podgie says...

Dirty smelly bottom sniffers.....
Dirty smelly bottom sniffers..... podgie
  • Score: 18

5:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

Can someone please correct me if i'm wrong but The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 removed the duty imposed on councils by the Caravan Sites Act 1968 to provide sites for gypsy and traveller use. (Grant aid for the provision of sites was also withdrawn.)

So why are we expected to provide them with a site and why, just because we don't have a site, can't they be turfed off as soon as they arrive?
Can someone please correct me if i'm wrong but The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 removed the duty imposed on councils by the Caravan Sites Act 1968 to provide sites for gypsy and traveller use. (Grant aid for the provision of sites was also withdrawn.) So why are we expected to provide them with a site and why, just because we don't have a site, can't they be turfed off as soon as they arrive? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 20

5:34pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jameslocal says...

So who's up for a game of cricket then?! Let's get it organised!.. I would like to use the cricket pitch that my tax has paid for...If it so happens that some members of the travelling community have parked on the pitch...so be it!!! Cricket ball vs car/caravan window.....that'll give them reason to move!
So who's up for a game of cricket then?! Let's get it organised!.. I would like to use the cricket pitch that my tax has paid for...If it so happens that some members of the travelling community have parked on the pitch...so be it!!! Cricket ball vs car/caravan window.....that'll give them reason to move! jameslocal
  • Score: 60

5:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Pity this isn't France - they know how to clear them out, no messing around like they do here?!
Pity this isn't France - they know how to clear them out, no messing around like they do here?! FerryFan
  • Score: 28

5:43pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jonbonjon says...

Red propane cylinders are given away by gas companies so have no value so dumped. Most traverlers have council houses or private farms which they spend winter months in then go on the road on benefits making cash deals and work which is supplieted by people wanting a cheap job. If people stopped suppling work ie cheap tarmac tree clearing scrapping then they would not come back. Fact.
Red propane cylinders are given away by gas companies so have no value so dumped. Most traverlers have council houses or private farms which they spend winter months in then go on the road on benefits making cash deals and work which is supplieted by people wanting a cheap job. If people stopped suppling work ie cheap tarmac tree clearing scrapping then they would not come back. Fact. jonbonjon
  • Score: 17

5:46pm Wed 30 Jul 14

ShuttleX says...

Bournemouth Borough councillor Susan Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said the issue is the council's “highest priority”.

The annoying thing as far as this woman is concerned, is she actually believes the stuff that comes out of her mouth. Anybody else stupid enough to believe her, or any Councillor for that matter, deserves the service you get.
The Council are NOT interested. It really is that simple. You can go back years, and it's the same old excuses and promises rehashed. They know the public will rant and rave for a while, but then things will quieten down till the next time. In the forces there is a thing called "Lack of Moral Fiber" In Bournemouth, it's called "Being A Councillor" Gutless parasites the lot of them. "Let the gullible peasants moan, we can still con them next year" is the motto of this Council. But before you do moan, remember, YOU VOTED THEM IN. While you blindly vote one party or the other, because you are either to stupid or to lazy to listen to the person, not the party.... then tough luck, you get conned again.
Bournemouth Borough councillor Susan Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said the issue is the council's “highest priority”. The annoying thing as far as this woman is concerned, is she actually believes the stuff that comes out of her mouth. Anybody else stupid enough to believe her, or any Councillor for that matter, deserves the service you get. The Council are NOT interested. It really is that simple. You can go back years, and it's the same old excuses and promises rehashed. They know the public will rant and rave for a while, but then things will quieten down till the next time. In the forces there is a thing called "Lack of Moral Fiber" In Bournemouth, it's called "Being A Councillor" Gutless parasites the lot of them. "Let the gullible peasants moan, we can still con them next year" is the motto of this Council. But before you do moan, remember, YOU VOTED THEM IN. While you blindly vote one party or the other, because you are either to stupid or to lazy to listen to the person, not the party.... then tough luck, you get conned again. ShuttleX
  • Score: 23

5:50pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Custodes says...

Lets not blame the local authorities too much. Basically Parliament has to grasp this nettle and support its taxpayers against this annual invasion of freeloading non -welcome "travellers".
When they pitch on car parks why does not the council issue penalty charge notices as they would to any one else (scared?).
It seems that anyone with an Irish accent and a caravan and a 4X4 can park for free on council car parks.
Parliament needs to address this issue without the guidance of european courts in their various guises about their "human" rights (I use the term advisedly)
Lets not blame the local authorities too much. Basically Parliament has to grasp this nettle and support its taxpayers against this annual invasion of freeloading non -welcome "travellers". When they pitch on car parks why does not the council issue penalty charge notices as they would to any one else (scared?). It seems that anyone with an Irish accent and a caravan and a 4X4 can park for free on council car parks. Parliament needs to address this issue without the guidance of european courts in their various guises about their "human" rights (I use the term advisedly) Custodes
  • Score: 21

5:50pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

"and do not generalise. "



whereas that is just what the council, police and Daily Echo do

anyone who turns up in a caravan and parks where they should not is presumed to be a 'Traveller'

presumed, because i have yet to hear anything from the council as to what checks are made to ensure that those folk are travellers as defined by that ruling of 2000

so why does the Daily Echo not ask the council what questions are asked, and how the answers inform the council that these are real travellers ?
"and do not generalise. " whereas that is just what the council, police and Daily Echo do anyone who turns up in a caravan and parks where they should not is presumed to be a 'Traveller' presumed, because i have yet to hear anything from the council as to what checks are made to ensure that those folk are travellers as defined by that ruling of 2000 so why does the Daily Echo not ask the council what questions are asked, and how the answers inform the council that these are real travellers ? Bob49
  • Score: 19

5:58pm Wed 30 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

retry69 wrote:
Anyone who is living around the area ,at least those I have spoken to are under no illusions that the security has done nothing to stop additional travellers going on site and have only acted in a advisory capacity to any of us who have asked questions.Someone previously stated that they were told that the police advised the security to let additional travellers in.It is now become an unbelievable situation with the lack of interest from local councillors becoming more apparent as the days go by
Where are our MP's when you need some input from them?
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: Anyone who is living around the area ,at least those I have spoken to are under no illusions that the security has done nothing to stop additional travellers going on site and have only acted in a advisory capacity to any of us who have asked questions.Someone previously stated that they were told that the police advised the security to let additional travellers in.It is now become an unbelievable situation with the lack of interest from local councillors becoming more apparent as the days go by[/p][/quote]Where are our MP's when you need some input from them? O'Reilly
  • Score: 9

6:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
rebelred wrote:
They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.
Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence?
There is a temporary site provided for them, obviously too far out at the present time ...............
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rebelred[/bold] wrote: They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.[/p][/quote]Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence?[/p][/quote]There is a temporary site provided for them, obviously too far out at the present time ............... O'Reilly
  • Score: 6

6:12pm Wed 30 Jul 14

sea poole says...

O'reilly -at least you've got the semblance of an MP. Ours in Poole will only de-hibernate just before the next general election -with promises he doesn't even understand -and as for his take on 'travellers...' He thinks it's a travel expenses form for continuous journeys to Parliament -even when it's in recess!
O'reilly -at least you've got the semblance of an MP. Ours in Poole will only de-hibernate just before the next general election -with promises he doesn't even understand -and as for his take on 'travellers...' He thinks it's a travel expenses form for continuous journeys to Parliament -even when it's in recess! sea poole
  • Score: 9

6:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

cynders101 says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution. cynders101
  • Score: -69

6:26pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

I do hope the council isn't paying the security company for doing nothing.
I do hope the council isn't paying the security company for doing nothing. Carolyn43
  • Score: 6

6:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

mmm2008 says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
“I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be."

Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows!
They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc.
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: “I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be." Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows![/p][/quote]They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc. mmm2008
  • Score: -17

6:38pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Slapmytickle says...

I'm really not sure what the problem is. People are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they are traveling all together and end up in only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. How about we look at embracing them in to the local area rather than trying to get rid of them? Surely constantly trying to remove them only makes the situation worse. There are much more issues to worry about in this area...
I'm really not sure what the problem is. People are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they are traveling all together and end up in only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. How about we look at embracing them in to the local area rather than trying to get rid of them? Surely constantly trying to remove them only makes the situation worse. There are much more issues to worry about in this area... Slapmytickle
  • Score: -47

6:39pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Slapmytickle says...

I don't see what the problem is. These people are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they all travel together and go to only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. I say we should look at a way to embrace them in to the local area rather than trying to push them away, as it only seems to make the situation worse...
I don't see what the problem is. These people are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they all travel together and go to only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. I say we should look at a way to embrace them in to the local area rather than trying to push them away, as it only seems to make the situation worse... Slapmytickle
  • Score: -41

6:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Blob01 says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
rebelred wrote:
They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.
Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence?
They are given multiple temporary sites in and around the area! They just choose not to use them.
Great security... well worth the thousands that it's costing us.
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rebelred[/bold] wrote: They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.[/p][/quote]Well lets stop giving them a reason to come then, insist that the organisers of the Steam Fair provide a temporary site for them from May to September, if they don't revoke their operating licence?[/p][/quote]They are given multiple temporary sites in and around the area! They just choose not to use them. Great security... well worth the thousands that it's costing us. Blob01
  • Score: 9

7:13pm Wed 30 Jul 14

skippy123 says...

Slapmytickle wrote:
I don't see what the problem is. These people are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they all travel together and go to only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. I say we should look at a way to embrace them in to the local area rather than trying to push them away, as it only seems to make the situation worse...
We all know that caravans are the worst things to hit the road but at least they go to camp sites and pay to do so
[quote][p][bold]Slapmytickle[/bold] wrote: I don't see what the problem is. These people are free to travel. How many of you have caravans? At least they all travel together and go to only a few locations. It could be a lot worse. I say we should look at a way to embrace them in to the local area rather than trying to push them away, as it only seems to make the situation worse...[/p][/quote]We all know that caravans are the worst things to hit the road but at least they go to camp sites and pay to do so skippy123
  • Score: 15

7:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

kym1705 says...

Where are all the kids supposed to play now?? They need this space during the holidays - it keeps them safer than if they are roaming the streets and gives them something to do - this is most unfair to them as even when these "travellers" have left there will still be mess to be cleared up before it is safe for them again!
Where are all the kids supposed to play now?? They need this space during the holidays - it keeps them safer than if they are roaming the streets and gives them something to do - this is most unfair to them as even when these "travellers" have left there will still be mess to be cleared up before it is safe for them again! kym1705
  • Score: 16

7:39pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Hickery says...

cynders101 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
And I presume that if they pitched-up in a field behind your home, depositing their rubbish around and maybe across your garden boundary, your opinion would be the same? The fact remains that nobody wants this "in their own back yard.''
[quote][p][bold]cynders101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.[/p][/quote]And I presume that if they pitched-up in a field behind your home, depositing their rubbish around and maybe across your garden boundary, your opinion would be the same? The fact remains that nobody wants this "in their own back yard.'' Hickery
  • Score: 14

8:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

English law......what's that?
English law......what's that? BIGTONE
  • Score: 7

8:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Boring read the same story for the past few years ,and the same next year
Boring read the same story for the past few years ,and the same next year kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Wed 30 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Security guards where we're the police
Security guards where we're the police kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

8:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

ShuttleX says...

"so why does the Daily Echo not ask the council what questions are asked, and how the answers inform the council that these are real travellers ?........"

Now that really did make me laugh. The idea of the Echo actually doing anything but cut and paste what their masters tell them to.... I find that funny.
"so why does the Daily Echo not ask the council what questions are asked, and how the answers inform the council that these are real travellers ?........" Now that really did make me laugh. The idea of the Echo actually doing anything but cut and paste what their masters tell them to.... I find that funny. ShuttleX
  • Score: 9

9:16pm Wed 30 Jul 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

rebelred wrote:
They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.
Could not agree with you more! Alternatively these people are looking for quiet places to camp and based on perceived fear of them people stay away.
If lots of people ignore this area and other similar places then they will continue to come, they would soon push of if a few hundred local turned up all banging drums!
[quote][p][bold]rebelred[/bold] wrote: They will all go back to their homes once the steam fair is over at start September. Until then we have to put up or shut up. Until we have sites for them tough luck. How much of our council tax goes towards providing for those that contribute nothing.[/p][/quote]Could not agree with you more! Alternatively these people are looking for quiet places to camp and based on perceived fear of them people stay away. If lots of people ignore this area and other similar places then they will continue to come, they would soon push of if a few hundred local turned up all banging drums! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 7

9:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

joetheman says...

cynders101 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
cynders101 you are an idiot,if you put these parasites in a 5star hotel they would still shxt in the sink.
[quote][p][bold]cynders101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.[/p][/quote]cynders101 you are an idiot,if you put these parasites in a 5star hotel they would still shxt in the sink. joetheman
  • Score: 14

9:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Big mistake by the Echo earlier. They reported travellers arriving at Hamworthy Park but renoved the story about an hour later when they realised a legitimate funfair had turned up. Absolute muppets.
Big mistake by the Echo earlier. They reported travellers arriving at Hamworthy Park but renoved the story about an hour later when they realised a legitimate funfair had turned up. Absolute muppets. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 6

9:51pm Wed 30 Jul 14

rjddrjdd says...

My 24 year old got knock down by a drunk driver in 2012 it change her life shes end up with brain damage and its been very hard on the famliy I think the people who get in there cars noing that they been drinking should be made to go through what the person they knock down gose through by makeing them see how much damge they have done a drunk driver should be ban for life and never able to drive again
My 24 year old got knock down by a drunk driver in 2012 it change her life shes end up with brain damage and its been very hard on the famliy I think the people who get in there cars noing that they been drinking should be made to go through what the person they knock down gose through by makeing them see how much damge they have done a drunk driver should be ban for life and never able to drive again rjddrjdd
  • Score: -2

9:52pm Wed 30 Jul 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Big mistake by the Echo earlier. They reported travellers arriving at Hamworthy Park but renoved the story about an hour later when they realised a legitimate funfair had turned up. Absolute muppets.
Ha! love it similar breed different disguise!
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Big mistake by the Echo earlier. They reported travellers arriving at Hamworthy Park but renoved the story about an hour later when they realised a legitimate funfair had turned up. Absolute muppets.[/p][/quote]Ha! love it similar breed different disguise! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 7

10:13pm Wed 30 Jul 14

cheeriedriteup says...

West Cliff wrote:
Surely they must be able to create a law so that the Council don't have to keep going back to court to get them evicted ? Likewise on private land

Perhaps some sort of permit schema for Caravans and Motorhomes thats required with penalty being removal and crushing/disposal if you don't follow rules / have a permit
Ireland did that's why they all ended up in England, we are just a nation of YES people and accept what goes on, we are happy to complain to each other but fail to take on the authorities
[quote][p][bold]West Cliff[/bold] wrote: Surely they must be able to create a law so that the Council don't have to keep going back to court to get them evicted ? Likewise on private land Perhaps some sort of permit schema for Caravans and Motorhomes thats required with penalty being removal and crushing/disposal if you don't follow rules / have a permit[/p][/quote]Ireland did that's why they all ended up in England, we are just a nation of YES people and accept what goes on, we are happy to complain to each other but fail to take on the authorities cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 5

10:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Baysider says...

Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective!
Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective! Baysider
  • Score: -6

10:25pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Yankee1 says...

It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week.

Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing?

Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo?
It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week. Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing? Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo? Yankee1
  • Score: 11

10:25pm Wed 30 Jul 14

nikki dix says...

I have no problem with a travellers right to travel. my problem is why they don't have to obey the laws/rules like any one else. if I was to drive my car over slades farm, set up camp overnite and dump my rubbish there would be consequences. I walk over slades fields daily and correct, the security is a joke, there most certainly is soiled toilet paper blowing around, and piled up near caravans. plus what looks like discarded items piled up ready to be dumped when they leave. it is a health and safety issue. why cant they be made to use the car park for their cars? there has been instances of unsafe/fast driving of their cars near dog walkers. so if you want to live and let live, we should all live by the same code .
I have no problem with a travellers right to travel. my problem is why they don't have to obey the laws/rules like any one else. if I was to drive my car over slades farm, set up camp overnite and dump my rubbish there would be consequences. I walk over slades fields daily and correct, the security is a joke, there most certainly is soiled toilet paper blowing around, and piled up near caravans. plus what looks like discarded items piled up ready to be dumped when they leave. it is a health and safety issue. why cant they be made to use the car park for their cars? there has been instances of unsafe/fast driving of their cars near dog walkers. so if you want to live and let live, we should all live by the same code . nikki dix
  • Score: 9

10:33pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Peroni says...

Sir Cliff Topp wrote:
They'll be back at Baiter Park or Hamworthy next week. If the council had any brains they would install a security barrier and guard now 24/7 who could then fone the old bill the minute they arrive.
Do you not realise the police will NOT stop them.....they will tell the public if any to allow them entry ......they will not stop them even if they pull fences down, cut padlocks,or any other methods of entry !!!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff Topp[/bold] wrote: They'll be back at Baiter Park or Hamworthy next week. If the council had any brains they would install a security barrier and guard now 24/7 who could then fone the old bill the minute they arrive.[/p][/quote]Do you not realise the police will NOT stop them.....they will tell the public if any to allow them entry ......they will not stop them even if they pull fences down, cut padlocks,or any other methods of entry !!! Peroni
  • Score: 5

10:47pm Wed 30 Jul 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Im not quite understanding the headline, the security called in after the tarmacadam crew have arrived, is this to protect them from our over powering council and police commissioner , bring back the soldiers from afar is the answer
Im not quite understanding the headline, the security called in after the tarmacadam crew have arrived, is this to protect them from our over powering council and police commissioner , bring back the soldiers from afar is the answer cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 3

11:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

cynders101 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
Muppet.
[quote][p][bold]cynders101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.[/p][/quote]Muppet. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 5

11:11pm Wed 30 Jul 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Yankee1 wrote:
It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week.

Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing?

Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo?
but which one of the many caused the damage ?
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week. Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing? Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo?[/p][/quote]but which one of the many caused the damage ? cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 2

11:14pm Wed 30 Jul 14

factnotfiction82 says...

Well where to start, I live only a stone throw away from these beautiful well looked after fields that myself and my family use daily ever since they came we can't use it and it's not just because they are there its what they've done, their dogs are roaming around fighting with each other, their children are foul mouthed, they poo on pathways and throw the waste on the fieldsand all this iI have seen for myself and reported, now you can't tell me that if any of you that agree with them owned a field you would except this behaviour? My son had his scooter taken from him right infront of his eyes but lucky for him the community officer was there to get it back, he then had his phone knocked out his hand which resulted in the screen shattering! We have people fighting in wars, we have drug dens that are busted everyday you telling me that the police cannot remove them behave!!! They stop people who want to save trees quicker than these lot, it's where our children play and feel safe and as parents their self's they would do the same for their child which is to protect that's all we want to do protect our children and make sure their safe!
Well where to start, I live only a stone throw away from these beautiful well looked after fields that myself and my family use daily ever since they came we can't use it and it's not just because they are there its what they've done, their dogs are roaming around fighting with each other, their children are foul mouthed, they poo on pathways and throw the waste on the fieldsand all this iI have seen for myself and reported, now you can't tell me that if any of you that agree with them owned a field you would except this behaviour? My son had his scooter taken from him right infront of his eyes but lucky for him the community officer was there to get it back, he then had his phone knocked out his hand which resulted in the screen shattering! We have people fighting in wars, we have drug dens that are busted everyday you telling me that the police cannot remove them behave!!! They stop people who want to save trees quicker than these lot, it's where our children play and feel safe and as parents their self's they would do the same for their child which is to protect that's all we want to do protect our children and make sure their safe! factnotfiction82
  • Score: 13

11:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

kym1705 wrote:
Where are all the kids supposed to play now?? They need this space during the holidays - it keeps them safer than if they are roaming the streets and gives them something to do - this is most unfair to them as even when these "travellers" have left there will still be mess to be cleared up before it is safe for them again!
B u g g e r the children of tax paying law abiding citizens, the ****** (word obscured to save the censor some hard earnt rest) are in town. 'Travellers' first, residents second.
[quote][p][bold]kym1705[/bold] wrote: Where are all the kids supposed to play now?? They need this space during the holidays - it keeps them safer than if they are roaming the streets and gives them something to do - this is most unfair to them as even when these "travellers" have left there will still be mess to be cleared up before it is safe for them again![/p][/quote]B u g g e r the children of tax paying law abiding citizens, the ****** (word obscured to save the censor some hard earnt rest) are in town. 'Travellers' first, residents second. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 7

11:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

s-pb2 says...

Baysider wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."
Despite having a rating of -30 plus you are completely spot on. The Echo has no interest in running a campaign against travellers, because the antics of the travellers sells their papers and sells their advertising space on the site. Travellers actually means increased revenue for the Echo.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."[/p][/quote]Despite having a rating of -30 plus you are completely spot on. The Echo has no interest in running a campaign against travellers, because the antics of the travellers sells their papers and sells their advertising space on the site. Travellers actually means increased revenue for the Echo. s-pb2
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

pete woodley wrote:
What a surprise,the guards did not want to know.
The wimps shouldn't get paid at all.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: What a surprise,the guards did not want to know.[/p][/quote]The wimps shouldn't get paid at all. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 4

11:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Baysider says...

s-pb2 wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."
Despite having a rating of -30 plus you are completely spot on. The Echo has no interest in running a campaign against travellers, because the antics of the travellers sells their papers and sells their advertising space on the site. Travellers actually means increased revenue for the Echo.
You'll find that I usually am ;-)
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."[/p][/quote]Despite having a rating of -30 plus you are completely spot on. The Echo has no interest in running a campaign against travellers, because the antics of the travellers sells their papers and sells their advertising space on the site. Travellers actually means increased revenue for the Echo.[/p][/quote]You'll find that I usually am ;-) Baysider
  • Score: -1

12:18am Thu 31 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Couldn't we arrange for the travellers to be joined by another group of travellers for maybe 48 hours. A couple of squadrons of tanks from Bovington could surely do with training in unfamiliar places. If whilst doing it they were to inadvertantly run over a few caravans I'm fairly certain that the travellers wouldn't have too much of a problem getting compensation from the MOD. Well what was left of them that is.
Couldn't we arrange for the travellers to be joined by another group of travellers for maybe 48 hours. A couple of squadrons of tanks from Bovington could surely do with training in unfamiliar places. If whilst doing it they were to inadvertantly run over a few caravans I'm fairly certain that the travellers wouldn't have too much of a problem getting compensation from the MOD. Well what was left of them that is. breamoreboy
  • Score: 2

1:02am Thu 31 Jul 14

Fuscia67 says...

cynders101 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
Sorry cynders, but you get a thumbs down from me. These 'people' do nothing more than take advantage of the lax system down here, which the Council, Police etc allow. Yes, I know we all harp on about it, but something has to give..and soon. Decent, law abiding people pay taxes to ensure cleanliness and safety for their homes and neighbourhoods. Just to clarify my position for you; I am not racist or classicist; I look after the land which I have worked hard to own; I work hard to look after the home which I live in; I have brought up my children to a standard whereby they respect others; I desperately try to mind my own business.....see, that's where I fall down, because this isn't something we should just get fed up of complaining about and let be. It just isn't fair on the residents of Poole, Bournemouth or wherever else they choose to hang their hats!!
[quote][p][bold]cynders101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.[/p][/quote]Sorry cynders, but you get a thumbs down from me. These 'people' do nothing more than take advantage of the lax system down here, which the Council, Police etc allow. Yes, I know we all harp on about it, but something has to give..and soon. Decent, law abiding people pay taxes to ensure cleanliness and safety for their homes and neighbourhoods. Just to clarify my position for you; I am not racist or classicist; I look after the land which I have worked hard to own; I work hard to look after the home which I live in; I have brought up my children to a standard whereby they respect others; I desperately try to mind my own business.....see, that's where I fall down, because this isn't something we should just get fed up of complaining about and let be. It just isn't fair on the residents of Poole, Bournemouth or wherever else they choose to hang their hats!! Fuscia67
  • Score: 6

2:21am Thu 31 Jul 14

chris100 says...

pete woodley wrote:
What a surprise,the guards did not want to know.
I was there and I warned the security they were down the road

The security started shutting the gate and was trying to put the padlock on but a car hit the gates and 1 security was lucky his fingers wernt broken and another hurt his back then a load of them come over from the camp and started threating them so they had no choice but to let them throu then the police turned up and stopped some from going on which is why they went into the car park they then blocked the view with vans and cars and started trying to cut another lock off to gain access

The police come as quick as they could and one of the armed response said he had come from honiton

So instead of moaning about the security who are probly on **** money and just trying to earn a living
moan at the council for not putting cameras up fences up ect so it could all be taped ect when they cut locks ect
and moan at he police for having so few coppers and not using section 61 powers
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: What a surprise,the guards did not want to know.[/p][/quote]I was there and I warned the security they were down the road The security started shutting the gate and was trying to put the padlock on but a car hit the gates and 1 security was lucky his fingers wernt broken and another hurt his back then a load of them come over from the camp and started threating them so they had no choice but to let them throu then the police turned up and stopped some from going on which is why they went into the car park they then blocked the view with vans and cars and started trying to cut another lock off to gain access The police come as quick as they could and one of the armed response said he had come from honiton So instead of moaning about the security who are probly on **** money and just trying to earn a living moan at the council for not putting cameras up fences up ect so it could all be taped ect when they cut locks ect and moan at he police for having so few coppers and not using section 61 powers chris100
  • Score: 5

4:37am Thu 31 Jul 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Baysider wrote:
Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective!
Nothing has been answered, just the same old crap from the council and their brown noser's. The law should apply to everyone irrespective of race, creed or colour..... just enforce it. Since when has being a member of an "ethic minority" mean the law of the land does not apply? Cut the crap and prosecute them like anyone else would be ,,,, bailiffs to be sent in if necessary. These people keep returning as they know they are dealing with a bunch of useless muppets and will get away with their crimes Scott free.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective![/p][/quote]Nothing has been answered, just the same old crap from the council and their brown noser's. The law should apply to everyone irrespective of race, creed or colour..... just enforce it. Since when has being a member of an "ethic minority" mean the law of the land does not apply? Cut the crap and prosecute them like anyone else would be ,,,, bailiffs to be sent in if necessary. These people keep returning as they know they are dealing with a bunch of useless muppets and will get away with their crimes Scott free. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 4

4:39am Thu 31 Jul 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week.

Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing?

Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo?
but which one of the many caused the damage ?
They are all guilty by aiding and abetting ,,, simple
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: It is thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved as the travellers accessed the park last week. Surely if true, this is illegal entry, damage to public/private property, and a clear case of illegal trespassing? Are there laws for us, and none for them? Really, Echo?[/p][/quote]but which one of the many caused the damage ?[/p][/quote]They are all guilty by aiding and abetting ,,, simple fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 1

7:18am Thu 31 Jul 14

Baysider says...

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective!
Nothing has been answered, just the same old crap from the council and their brown noser's. The law should apply to everyone irrespective of race, creed or colour..... just enforce it. Since when has being a member of an "ethic minority" mean the law of the land does not apply? Cut the crap and prosecute them like anyone else would be ,,,, bailiffs to be sent in if necessary. These people keep returning as they know they are dealing with a bunch of useless muppets and will get away with their crimes Scott free.
You're a prime example of what I'm suggesting. For example how many times do you have to be told that the courts, in order to apply the laws to travellers in the same way they may to you or me, need proper identification of the offender and evidence of what they did to prove "beyond all reasonable doubt"? Yet here you are trotting out the same old nonsense that just because they end up on the site they all aided and abetted which in the absence of witnesses who saw what they did and are prepared to give evidence would be laughed out of court...not simples at all Jobbie.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Jeepers creepers some of you lot really are obsessed with travellers! You keep making the same old points about what questions are asked to make sure they're travellers, why they can't be evicted straight away, why they can't use another councils temporary site and on and on. Everything has been discussed and answered ad nausea but because the average Echo reader doesn't like the answers they stick their fingers in their ears, hum the national anthem and pretend they didn't hear it. It's still a difficult issue that can only be addressed by changes in the law not some stupid knee jerk, illegal suggestions by the Echo collective![/p][/quote]Nothing has been answered, just the same old crap from the council and their brown noser's. The law should apply to everyone irrespective of race, creed or colour..... just enforce it. Since when has being a member of an "ethic minority" mean the law of the land does not apply? Cut the crap and prosecute them like anyone else would be ,,,, bailiffs to be sent in if necessary. These people keep returning as they know they are dealing with a bunch of useless muppets and will get away with their crimes Scott free.[/p][/quote]You're a prime example of what I'm suggesting. For example how many times do you have to be told that the courts, in order to apply the laws to travellers in the same way they may to you or me, need proper identification of the offender and evidence of what they did to prove "beyond all reasonable doubt"? Yet here you are trotting out the same old nonsense that just because they end up on the site they all aided and abetted which in the absence of witnesses who saw what they did and are prepared to give evidence would be laughed out of court...not simples at all Jobbie. Baysider
  • Score: 3

7:24am Thu 31 Jul 14

retry69 says...

mmm2008 wrote:
BarrHumbug wrote:
“I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be."

Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows!
They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc.
Where did you walk ? beside the encampment ? I don't think so or you had your eyes wide shut. As a footnote if you work in the only offices I know in Slades Farm perhaps you could have a word with your co-workers about leaving all their fag ends in a pile on the grass where they smoke by the small park.Why they cannot smoke in their own car park and clear their own mess up I don't know ,just a thought :)
[quote][p][bold]mmm2008[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: “I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be." Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows![/p][/quote]They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc.[/p][/quote]Where did you walk ? beside the encampment ? I don't think so or you had your eyes wide shut. As a footnote if you work in the only offices I know in Slades Farm perhaps you could have a word with your co-workers about leaving all their fag ends in a pile on the grass where they smoke by the small park.Why they cannot smoke in their own car park and clear their own mess up I don't know ,just a thought :) retry69
  • Score: 9

8:40am Thu 31 Jul 14

retry69 says...

mmm2008 wrote:
BarrHumbug wrote:
“I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be."

Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows!
They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc.
Obviously walking around with your eyes shut otherwise you may have also noticed the pile of rubbish your co-workers leave in the small park,why they can't smoke and munch in the car park and clean up after them I don't know or am I confusing the offices in Slades Farm Road,There is only one isn't there?
[quote][p][bold]mmm2008[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: “I share the residents' frustration and have spoken to various officers at the council and I am assured that all that can be done has and is continuing to be." Well clearly its not otherwise more of them wouldn't have got onto the park would they? The place is like an open sewer now with used toilet paper and faeces lining the hedgerows![/p][/quote]They must have had a tidy up. I work on Slades Farm rd and as well as seeing them all day every day from my desk, I go for a walk through the fields each lunchtime and have not seen any litter, toilet paper, faeces etc.[/p][/quote]Obviously walking around with your eyes shut otherwise you may have also noticed the pile of rubbish your co-workers leave in the small park,why they can't smoke and munch in the car park and clean up after them I don't know or am I confusing the offices in Slades Farm Road,There is only one isn't there? retry69
  • Score: 7

8:50am Thu 31 Jul 14

dogsoftheworld says...

Well i guess whichever party puts something in their national manifesto to stop this happening is going to get a lot of votes at the elections next year from this area.
But i have said before, the truth is this: Its not the councils to blame. They do not have the power to move them on, and they have legal responsibilities to everyone, including the travellers. All they can do is apply for eviction orders, which they do.
Nor is it the EU: many EU countries don't allow this.
Its the police. They have s61 powers to move these people on. They choose not to use them. Ask your PCC to explain why. Really, they can do it. They just won't.
I don't know why its so hard to get people to understand the basic facts. Maybe its because there's a politcal (usually ukip) agenda on here more interested in council bashing than anything else. But i'm afraid that's barking up the wrong tree
Well i guess whichever party puts something in their national manifesto to stop this happening is going to get a lot of votes at the elections next year from this area. But i have said before, the truth is this: Its not the councils to blame. They do not have the power to move them on, and they have legal responsibilities to everyone, including the travellers. All they can do is apply for eviction orders, which they do. Nor is it the EU: many EU countries don't allow this. Its the police. They have s61 powers to move these people on. They choose not to use them. Ask your PCC to explain why. Really, they can do it. They just won't. I don't know why its so hard to get people to understand the basic facts. Maybe its because there's a politcal (usually ukip) agenda on here more interested in council bashing than anything else. But i'm afraid that's barking up the wrong tree dogsoftheworld
  • Score: 4

9:12am Thu 31 Jul 14

matty poole says...

My partner was walking her dog there late yesterday afternoon and had to suffer a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse from children aged around 5!!
She will not be walking her dog there again after this upsetting incident until they have moved on.
My partner was walking her dog there late yesterday afternoon and had to suffer a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse from children aged around 5!! She will not be walking her dog there again after this upsetting incident until they have moved on. matty poole
  • Score: 5

9:44am Thu 31 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

cynders101 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.
This issue has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with race or religion.
It's SOLELY about EVERYONE abiding by the law of the land and EVERYONE who breaks those laws being treated the same.

The only small minded people are those who think travellers actually want to be part of society and be integrated. They don't. They want to do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want and stuff everybody else. They repeatedly break trespassing and littering laws, have no regard for anyone other than themselves, yet you choose to defend them? Why? Apologists like yourself are naive in the extreme, so I sincerely hope they pitch up next to your home soon so that YOU can experience the joys of these nomadic pests first hand.

I'm still waiting for a proper explanation from the authorities as to why travellers are being allowed to get away with breaking laws the rest of us would be arrested/fined for. Are the authorities spineless or just too scared of the race and human rights BS these nomadic tos*ers hide behind? It's time it was stopped and it's time this publication played it's part in the local community by sticking up for us.
[quote][p][bold]cynders101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]small minded, racist people making comments about people they assume to know. Everyone has the right to live. At some point permission had to be sought to build houses for you to live in on land that was not yours. Segregating and isolating people solves nothing. Maybe if they were accepted into communities they would have more respect for the community. I wonder if you would be allowed to make such racist comments if it was a group of muslims or other ethnic group. As for taxes.... everyone pays taxes!!! how do you know that they dont work full time???? have you asked them? or are you just generalising? Society is such that we blame and expect someone else to fix problems that nothing gets done. How about we start with some tolerance and communicate with them for a solution.[/p][/quote]This issue has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with race or religion. It's SOLELY about EVERYONE abiding by the law of the land and EVERYONE who breaks those laws being treated the same. The only small minded people are those who think travellers actually want to be part of society and be integrated. They don't. They want to do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want and stuff everybody else. They repeatedly break trespassing and littering laws, have no regard for anyone other than themselves, yet you choose to defend them? Why? Apologists like yourself are naive in the extreme, so I sincerely hope they pitch up next to your home soon so that YOU can experience the joys of these nomadic pests first hand. I'm still waiting for a proper explanation from the authorities as to why travellers are being allowed to get away with breaking laws the rest of us would be arrested/fined for. Are the authorities spineless or just too scared of the race and human rights BS these nomadic tos*ers hide behind? It's time it was stopped and it's time this publication played it's part in the local community by sticking up for us. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 9

9:45am Thu 31 Jul 14

BournemouthMatt says...

I can't believe there are comments on here defending the actions of these travellers. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but these people are clearly trespassing illegally and time after time seem to get away with it by the local authorities just because of who they are.

If I were to go and park my car on Bournemouth prominade, right next to the pier as a number of travellers did recently, it wouldn't be long for the authorities to turn up and forceably remove me and my car. A huge fine would follow no doubt.

As these travellers travel in numbers they rely on intimidation to gain an upper hand over the law.
I can't believe there are comments on here defending the actions of these travellers. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but these people are clearly trespassing illegally and time after time seem to get away with it by the local authorities just because of who they are. If I were to go and park my car on Bournemouth prominade, right next to the pier as a number of travellers did recently, it wouldn't be long for the authorities to turn up and forceably remove me and my car. A huge fine would follow no doubt. As these travellers travel in numbers they rely on intimidation to gain an upper hand over the law. BournemouthMatt
  • Score: 7

10:21am Thu 31 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Baysider wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places!

Sort it out Echo.
Sort it NOW!
Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."
Yes the Echo are a business, but they are also a focal point for important community issues. As such they should be making a stand on our behalf against those who repeatedly break the law. It's what a local paper SHOULD be about! So come on Echo, stop being spineless, grow a pair and help get the law changed so that travellers can't carry on taking the p*ss out of us.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: The authorities need to find a way of stopping travellers from taking the p*ss out of us all before the locals actually stand up and take the law into their own hands and confront these nomadic tos*ers. Just what are the Police and local authorities (who are paid for by OUR taxes and work for US) actually doing? Nothing it would seem. And just as importantly, what is this pathetic excuse for a local paper doing about it? Nothing yet again. When is the Daily Echo (EDF Newspaper of the Year.... yeah right, how much did you pay for that Mickey Mouse award?) and it's hopeless Editor (who hides away in Weymouth and does absolutely nothing) actually going to do something to back us locals? A local newspaper should be 100% backing it's readers, not cowardly sitting on the fence doing sweet FA. We want a high profile campaign for a law change where this paper DEMANDS an end to the misery these parasites cause for so many by invading OUR public places! Sort it out Echo. Sort it NOW![/p][/quote]Blah, de, blah, blah...why would or should the Echo do that? They are a commercial organisation that generates revenue through advertising and website hits which goes through the roof whenever it's a story about travellers...usually the same old rehashed story actually with the same old windbags making the same old 'points' ie "I don't like this so I'm going to shout and stamp my feet and not listen to anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as me, regardless of the fact my views are based on fantasy, ignorance and what I think should happen and not reality."[/p][/quote]Yes the Echo are a business, but they are also a focal point for important community issues. As such they should be making a stand on our behalf against those who repeatedly break the law. It's what a local paper SHOULD be about! So come on Echo, stop being spineless, grow a pair and help get the law changed so that travellers can't carry on taking the p*ss out of us. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 4

10:47am Thu 31 Jul 14

M.Maximo says...

We'll security are not doing a very good job at it them or are they??
I find if you go around the traveler site at 3am out of all girds they have you only find that's only one is permanently awake all other guards sleep so it's pointless despite several complaints of public/ police photographic evidence of guards a sleep insight security services can't do better same old same old another site they have is queens park by Bournemouth football grounds guards are a joke every time a drive past security are sat in a big dog van no dog or any thing like it but yes you'll find guards after 02 are a sleep easy 90£ hey there's bigger needs in the area and council don't care it's sad
We'll security are not doing a very good job at it them or are they?? I find if you go around the traveler site at 3am out of all girds they have you only find that's only one is permanently awake all other guards sleep so it's pointless despite several complaints of public/ police photographic evidence of guards a sleep insight security services can't do better same old same old another site they have is queens park by Bournemouth football grounds guards are a joke every time a drive past security are sat in a big dog van no dog or any thing like it but yes you'll find guards after 02 are a sleep easy 90£ hey there's bigger needs in the area and council don't care it's sad M.Maximo
  • Score: 1

11:06am Thu 31 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

I suspect the truth of the matter is that the council don't really want to move them on, they will only pitch up somewhere else which will mean more expense on more policing, more security, supplying more facilities for them and more court orders. So they drag their heels taking as long as they can get away with to obtain the court order to shift them?

Last year they shifted them on within two days with the excuse there was a planned event on, well theres a public event on there every day, its called dog walking and children playing!
I suspect the truth of the matter is that the council don't really want to move them on, they will only pitch up somewhere else which will mean more expense on more policing, more security, supplying more facilities for them and more court orders. So they drag their heels taking as long as they can get away with to obtain the court order to shift them? Last year they shifted them on within two days with the excuse there was a planned event on, well theres a public event on there every day, its called dog walking and children playing! BarrHumbug
  • Score: 4

3:10pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Lord Elpus says...

No sign of 'cheesey' Beesley why?
No sign of 'cheesey' Beesley why? Lord Elpus
  • Score: 1

3:31pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Kamikazi says...

I do hope that everyone remembers their attitude towards travellers when the sea levels rise and we at the coast are forced to relocate to areas that we are neither from nor have any right to be in.

Or do the racist bigots not believe in climate change either?
I do hope that everyone remembers their attitude towards travellers when the sea levels rise and we at the coast are forced to relocate to areas that we are neither from nor have any right to be in. Or do the racist bigots not believe in climate change either? Kamikazi
  • Score: -7

4:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

Kamikazi wrote:
I do hope that everyone remembers their attitude towards travellers when the sea levels rise and we at the coast are forced to relocate to areas that we are neither from nor have any right to be in.

Or do the racist bigots not believe in climate change either?
Slades Farm is 47m above sea level so i'll take that chance and continue being a racist bigot.
[quote][p][bold]Kamikazi[/bold] wrote: I do hope that everyone remembers their attitude towards travellers when the sea levels rise and we at the coast are forced to relocate to areas that we are neither from nor have any right to be in. Or do the racist bigots not believe in climate change either?[/p][/quote]Slades Farm is 47m above sea level so i'll take that chance and continue being a racist bigot. BarrHumbug
  • Score: 4

11:38pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ScoobyPoo says...

Somebody should be asking Freedom of Information requests to Bournemouth and Poole Councils as to exactly how much the annual traveler incursion to Dorset costs local tax payers. We spend more and more on security of sites which clearly is completely ineffective. When I go on holiday shortly, I will have to pay for a campsite for a few weeks. Why do tax payers continue year after year to have to finance "travelers" who for most of the rest of the year live in houses in Surrey, Essex or Northamptonshire (note not Romany Irish or Gypsy travelers). Its about time we woke up to this farce and demand our locally elected Councillors to actually do something for their electorate..
Somebody should be asking Freedom of Information requests to Bournemouth and Poole Councils as to exactly how much the annual traveler incursion to Dorset costs local tax payers. We spend more and more on security of sites which clearly is completely ineffective. When I go on holiday shortly, I will have to pay for a campsite for a few weeks. Why do tax payers continue year after year to have to finance "travelers" who for most of the rest of the year live in houses in Surrey, Essex or Northamptonshire (note not Romany Irish or Gypsy travelers). Its about time we woke up to this farce and demand our locally elected Councillors to actually do something for their electorate.. ScoobyPoo
  • Score: 5

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