Thomas Old jailed for 13-and-a-half years for attack on young mum while daughter was in the next room

“Jealous” partner who gagged and beat young mum in four hour attack is jailed for 13 years

Thomas Old

HORROR ATTACK: Wellington Road

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A young mum was stripped, gagged and badly beaten in a “horrific and sustained” four-hour attack while her two-year-old daughter was in the next room.

Rachel McGoldrick’s ex-partner Thomas Old is today starting a 13-and-a-half-year jail sentence for the shocking onslaught which left her in hospital with a catalogue of terrible injuries.

The Bournemouth University student’s back was broken in two places and her eye socket broken when Old tried to gouge out her right eye. Medics also reported bleeding on her brain, a broken nose, broken finger and significant cuts and bruising.

Her mouth was gagged, her hands tied behind her back and she was strangled into unconsciousness during the terrifying ordeal in her Wellington Road, Bournemouth flat on November 27 last year.

Bournemouth Crown Court was told the incident came after Old had bombarded Miss McGoldrick with vile texts and hacked her Facebook account to post pornographic pictures of her.

Prosecuting, Rufus Taylor described the crime as “a horrific and sustained attack over a number of hours driven by a perverse sense of jealousy.”

Sentencing, Judge Peter Johnson told Old: “You thought she had been seeing her ex-partner in a non-platonic way. Rachel was subjected to a sadistic, sustained and brutal attack – there are no adequate adjectives to describe what you did to her.

“She thought you were going to rape her. All the time this happened her young child was in the next room. You were striking her while she was bound and bleeding – you showed her no mercy whatsoever.”

Judge Johnson said it is “inevitable” that Miss McGoldrick, a midwifery student, will suffer “long-term, if not permanent, psychological damage.”

The court heard Old, 23, of Shaftesbury Road, Bournemouth, let himself into Miss McGoldrick’s flat with a key he had stolen, taking gaffer tape and rope with him.

After the ordeal, he forced her to lie to police, claiming she had been attacked by strangers in the street, but officers did not believe the story.

A search of the flat revealed blood-spattered walls in the bedroom and blood in the bathroom where he had forced his victim to shower before taking her to hospital.

Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall.

He said prolonged use of cannabis and more recent use of steroids had made his paranoia worse and he feared rejection.

Mr Richards said Old had started his own business and “bitterly regrets what he did and hates himself for it.”

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5:41am Tue 29 Jul 14

Lord Parkstone says...

What a low life scum bag. When will we bring back capital punishment for wastes of space like this.
I sincerely hope his victim and her daughter fully recover from this ordeal.my best wishes to you both for the future.
As for him I hope he gets regular beatings whilst doing his time. Hope he rots.
What a low life scum bag. When will we bring back capital punishment for wastes of space like this. I sincerely hope his victim and her daughter fully recover from this ordeal.my best wishes to you both for the future. As for him I hope he gets regular beatings whilst doing his time. Hope he rots. Lord Parkstone
  • Score: 174

6:55am Tue 29 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

An insult to animals to call him one, this is a creature of pure evil who needs incarcerating for life, vile vile man, hope she and her daughter make a speedy recovery from this.
An insult to animals to call him one, this is a creature of pure evil who needs incarcerating for life, vile vile man, hope she and her daughter make a speedy recovery from this. MMM444
  • Score: 112

7:15am Tue 29 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

Life in prison would have been better and I mean life , you die in prison no ifs or buts.!
Life in prison would have been better and I mean life , you die in prison no ifs or buts.! bosco1
  • Score: 103

7:15am Tue 29 Jul 14

Dorsetbaby says...

He is beyond vile and almost killed her. I am sad for his dad and hope he realises he did all he could with his son and is not to blame for what he chose to do as adult.
He is beyond vile and almost killed her. I am sad for his dad and hope he realises he did all he could with his son and is not to blame for what he chose to do as adult. Dorsetbaby
  • Score: 69

7:28am Tue 29 Jul 14

EGHH says...

Castration would take scum like this mouth of the gene pool. Also it would calm them down. Works with dogs!
Castration would take scum like this mouth of the gene pool. Also it would calm them down. Works with dogs! EGHH
  • Score: 62

7:28am Tue 29 Jul 14

charlie2004 says...

How can one human being do that to another and to think he could be out in six years to do it again. With luck they will have gaffer tape and some rope where he's going, perhaps he could try putting it round his own neck. Good luck to you for the future Rachel,
How can one human being do that to another and to think he could be out in six years to do it again. With luck they will have gaffer tape and some rope where he's going, perhaps he could try putting it round his own neck. Good luck to you for the future Rachel, charlie2004
  • Score: 70

7:30am Tue 29 Jul 14

djd says...

So, he was hated at school and that's an excuse for doing what he did to this young lady.
This vile combination of flesh and bone should stay in prison for the rest of his life.
So, he was hated at school and that's an excuse for doing what he did to this young lady. This vile combination of flesh and bone should stay in prison for the rest of his life. djd
  • Score: 72

7:37am Tue 29 Jul 14

High Treason says...

"Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall"

I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job.
"Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall" I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job. High Treason
  • Score: 35

8:18am Tue 29 Jul 14

freespeech4all says...

Poor girl my heart goes out to you and your little one. Please try to put this behind you carry on your studies, become the amazing midwife I know you will be not just for your sake but for your little one. Become the inspiration to those who know you to show that no matter what has happened in the past has no barring on the future. God bless you girl
Poor girl my heart goes out to you and your little one. Please try to put this behind you carry on your studies, become the amazing midwife I know you will be not just for your sake but for your little one. Become the inspiration to those who know you to show that no matter what has happened in the past has no barring on the future. God bless you girl freespeech4all
  • Score: 81

8:56am Tue 29 Jul 14

chunka89 says...

djd wrote:
So, he was hated at school and that's an excuse for doing what he did to this young lady.
This vile combination of flesh and bone should stay in prison for the rest of his life.
That's a lie i went to school with him and he wasn't hated at all, he had lots of friends. It's just a pathetic attempt to try and get away with this horrible attack on that poor woman! 13 years is not enough!
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: So, he was hated at school and that's an excuse for doing what he did to this young lady. This vile combination of flesh and bone should stay in prison for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]That's a lie i went to school with him and he wasn't hated at all, he had lots of friends. It's just a pathetic attempt to try and get away with this horrible attack on that poor woman! 13 years is not enough! chunka89
  • Score: 87

8:58am Tue 29 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank
you know it is
no baths for him for a while.
Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank you know it is no baths for him for a while. nickynoodah
  • Score: -17

9:24am Tue 29 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.
They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 38

9:41am Tue 29 Jul 14

bobthedestroyer says...

If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality? bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 12

9:45am Tue 29 Jul 14

iseestupidpeople says...

What a vile, insecure brainless idiot. I hope Rachel can find herself a real man now who can help her get over this vile attack. Looking at his Facebook page he has no respect for any female and only seems to love himself (well no one else is going to!)
What a vile, insecure brainless idiot. I hope Rachel can find herself a real man now who can help her get over this vile attack. Looking at his Facebook page he has no respect for any female and only seems to love himself (well no one else is going to!) iseestupidpeople
  • Score: 7

11:05am Tue 29 Jul 14

andreww4rd says...

What a scumbag, this highlights perfectly how broken society actually is. A 13 year sentence seems relatively fair to me, although I would like to see people locked up for life who commit crimes like this.
What a scumbag, this highlights perfectly how broken society actually is. A 13 year sentence seems relatively fair to me, although I would like to see people locked up for life who commit crimes like this. andreww4rd
  • Score: 11

11:05am Tue 29 Jul 14

boyerboy says...

At least we have one judge capable of dishing out suitable sentences( by the way , this is the judge who gave the record fine & costs for the illegal tree felling....).
At least we have one judge capable of dishing out suitable sentences( by the way , this is the judge who gave the record fine & costs for the illegal tree felling....). boyerboy
  • Score: 25

11:15am Tue 29 Jul 14

old duffa says...

at last a decent sentence,enjoy prison u scum
at last a decent sentence,enjoy prison u scum old duffa
  • Score: 16

11:43am Tue 29 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Hopefully he will be sharing a cell with someone twice his size who gives him a taste of his own medicine... and treats him like a girl every night, if you know what I mean!
Hopefully he will be sharing a cell with someone twice his size who gives him a taste of his own medicine... and treats him like a girl every night, if you know what I mean! Minty Fresh
  • Score: 22

12:12pm Tue 29 Jul 14

podhead249 says...

I hope he gets raped in prison.
I hope he gets raped in prison. podhead249
  • Score: 15

12:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Boscomite says...

Unpopular at school? I'm not feckin suprised.
Unpopular at school? I'm not feckin suprised. Boscomite
  • Score: 15

12:53pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Commonsense? says...

Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'!
Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'! Commonsense?
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nermal says...

You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent.
You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent. nermal
  • Score: 11

1:15pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

I would be very surprised if he is out in six years. Clearly there is something very disturbed about him and it is doubtful that he will change when inside.

This is a truly horrific attack and no other person should ever have to even worry that they might be subject to an attack from him, never mind suffer it.

However posting up violent and gruesome forms of retribution is not the answer and merely suggests that some on here are no better, if only in thought not deed.
I would be very surprised if he is out in six years. Clearly there is something very disturbed about him and it is doubtful that he will change when inside. This is a truly horrific attack and no other person should ever have to even worry that they might be subject to an attack from him, never mind suffer it. However posting up violent and gruesome forms of retribution is not the answer and merely suggests that some on here are no better, if only in thought not deed. Bob49
  • Score: 8

3:13pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

nermal wrote:
You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent.
He didn't get 10 years.

He got life.
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent.[/p][/quote]He didn't get 10 years. He got life. Bob49
  • Score: 2

3:22pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Sir Cliff West says...

Commonsense? wrote:
Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'!
Why did you choose the name Leroy?
[quote][p][bold]Commonsense?[/bold] wrote: Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'![/p][/quote]Why did you choose the name Leroy? Sir Cliff West
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Tue 29 Jul 14

TopKop says...

always used to be a pretty nice lad. Not saying it has everything to do with what happened but secretly taking steroids has obviously played a big part..
always used to be a pretty nice lad. Not saying it has everything to do with what happened but secretly taking steroids has obviously played a big part.. TopKop
  • Score: -5

3:44pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

if he can get hold of a television
he can use his ears
as a satellite dish
if he can get hold of a television he can use his ears as a satellite dish nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

3:46pm Tue 29 Jul 14

adspacebroker says...

Looks like pretty boy is going to enjoy it in the showers when the others find out!
Looks like pretty boy is going to enjoy it in the showers when the others find out! adspacebroker
  • Score: 2

4:35pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Commonsense? says...

Sir Cliff West wrote:
Commonsense? wrote:
Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'!
Why did you choose the name Leroy?
It's a reference to the song 'Bad Bad Leroy Brown' who was the badest man in the whole **** town.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff West[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Commonsense?[/bold] wrote: Seems like a fair sentence, in terms of time - assuming he spends all 13 years inside. On the subject of hanging, it would be an easy way out as it would be over relatively quickly. If you really want him to suffer then 13 years worth of being brutalised in prison would seem fair. One can only imagine the long winter nights, being the cell mate of someone called 'Leroy'![/p][/quote]Why did you choose the name Leroy?[/p][/quote]It's a reference to the song 'Bad Bad Leroy Brown' who was the badest man in the whole **** town. Commonsense?
  • Score: 5

4:36pm Tue 29 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

The prison lags enjoy a new punchbag.

Wait till they get Old of him.
The prison lags enjoy a new punchbag. Wait till they get Old of him. BIGTONE
  • Score: 5

4:53pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

adspacebroker wrote:
Looks like pretty boy is going to enjoy it in the showers when the others find out!
urban myth

he will opt for section 43 (45 now ?) the segregation wing, so will not be subject to attentions of the somewhat bizarre prisoner hierachy
[quote][p][bold]adspacebroker[/bold] wrote: Looks like pretty boy is going to enjoy it in the showers when the others find out![/p][/quote]urban myth he will opt for section 43 (45 now ?) the segregation wing, so will not be subject to attentions of the somewhat bizarre prisoner hierachy Bob49
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Petelucas says...

If this would be a violent animal it would be put down. Why is this different? We have to keep this piece of !!! at our expense in jail. Free board and lodging. Hope he gets dealt with in the appropriate way in the showers Im sure the old lags will do hi, justice
If this would be a violent animal it would be put down. Why is this different? We have to keep this piece of !!! at our expense in jail. Free board and lodging. Hope he gets dealt with in the appropriate way in the showers Im sure the old lags will do hi, justice Petelucas
  • Score: 5

5:50pm Tue 29 Jul 14

scouserinbmth says...

High Treason wrote:
"Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall"

I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job.
if he had adhd as a child then he has adhd now, its a permanent disability but this piece of s%*t needs stringing up and i would gladly supply the rope, evil scum!
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: "Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall" I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job.[/p][/quote]if he had adhd as a child then he has adhd now, its a permanent disability but this piece of s%*t needs stringing up and i would gladly supply the rope, evil scum! scouserinbmth
  • Score: 1

6:07pm Tue 29 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

You scum bag .I hope you get whats coming to you while you are in prison.
The likes of you should of been sectioned years ago .
How many more ,are out there looking for their next victims.
I hope the lady makes a full recovery and can put this terrible ordeal behind her.
You scum bag .I hope you get whats coming to you while you are in prison. The likes of you should of been sectioned years ago . How many more ,are out there looking for their next victims. I hope the lady makes a full recovery and can put this terrible ordeal behind her. cromwell9
  • Score: 7

7:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

YoungGirlyBlogger says...

I was unfortunate enough to go to school with this animal, he was always the school bully, had myself in tears several times. Glad he's locked up where he belongs ... Karma comes to mind!!
I was unfortunate enough to go to school with this animal, he was always the school bully, had myself in tears several times. Glad he's locked up where he belongs ... Karma comes to mind!! YoungGirlyBlogger
  • Score: 15

7:57pm Tue 29 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank
you know it is
no baths for him for a while.
Miss Brain Dead Boscombe 2014 strikes again. Please emigrate, I gather that it's rather nice on Rockall at this time of year.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank you know it is no baths for him for a while.[/p][/quote]Miss Brain Dead Boscombe 2014 strikes again. Please emigrate, I gather that it's rather nice on Rockall at this time of year. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Tue 29 Jul 14

DUCKFEEDER says...

morning sex is always a nice surprise............ unless you are in prison and i hope you get a nice surprise every morning
morning sex is always a nice surprise............ unless you are in prison and i hope you get a nice surprise every morning DUCKFEEDER
  • Score: -1

8:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
Cannabis can and does do this, pretty frightening isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?[/p][/quote]Cannabis can and does do this, pretty frightening isn't it? breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

8:02pm Tue 29 Jul 14

martinsim34 says...

he should get life not 13yrs time for us all to cut and paste this to the justice committee but should send direct to director of public prosicutions as a appeal for a longer sentance not one victim but 2 one who couild turn into a life in and out of institutionalised care if not both,that judge is a waste of time
he should get life not 13yrs time for us all to cut and paste this to the justice committee but should send direct to director of public prosicutions as a appeal for a longer sentance not one victim but 2 one who couild turn into a life in and out of institutionalised care if not both,that judge is a waste of time martinsim34
  • Score: -6

10:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Petelucas wrote:
If this would be a violent animal it would be put down. Why is this different? We have to keep this piece of !!! at our expense in jail. Free board and lodging. Hope he gets dealt with in the appropriate way in the showers Im sure the old lags will do hi, justice
Because if he knew he was facing a death sentence then it would be certain that this poor girl would not be with us know.

Sadly the daily mail book of simple answere for simply folk avoids explaining that things are just a wee bit more complicated than the usual dimwits can grasp

ps as above this unpleasant piece of work will be on the segregated list and well away from the threats as suggested by the idiotic squeaks being bleated out on here
[quote][p][bold]Petelucas[/bold] wrote: If this would be a violent animal it would be put down. Why is this different? We have to keep this piece of !!! at our expense in jail. Free board and lodging. Hope he gets dealt with in the appropriate way in the showers Im sure the old lags will do hi, justice[/p][/quote]Because if he knew he was facing a death sentence then it would be certain that this poor girl would not be with us know. Sadly the daily mail book of simple answere for simply folk avoids explaining that things are just a wee bit more complicated than the usual dimwits can grasp ps as above this unpleasant piece of work will be on the segregated list and well away from the threats as suggested by the idiotic squeaks being bleated out on here Bob49
  • Score: -1

10:25pm Tue 29 Jul 14

stevobath says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
Obviously a lame excuse, used in mitigation.

Millions of people smoke cannabis/pot & lead normal lives.

Just a pathetic excuse.
Steroids on the other hand make you very violent over time, especially if you're that way inclined already.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?[/p][/quote]Obviously a lame excuse, used in mitigation. Millions of people smoke cannabis/pot & lead normal lives. Just a pathetic excuse. Steroids on the other hand make you very violent over time, especially if you're that way inclined already. stevobath
  • Score: -1

10:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

stevobath says...

breamoreboy wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank
you know it is
no baths for him for a while.
Miss Brain Dead Boscombe 2014 strikes again. Please emigrate, I gather that it's rather nice on Rockall at this time of year.
Obviously schools out hence the stupid attempts at 'humour'.
I don't find this a case to make jokes about.

Unfortunately the 'challenged' thinks it's funny.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Make him stay with scary bedsit George and his 4x2 wooden plank you know it is no baths for him for a while.[/p][/quote]Miss Brain Dead Boscombe 2014 strikes again. Please emigrate, I gather that it's rather nice on Rockall at this time of year.[/p][/quote]Obviously schools out hence the stupid attempts at 'humour'. I don't find this a case to make jokes about. Unfortunately the 'challenged' thinks it's funny. stevobath
  • Score: -1

10:42pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

What a tosser! Bully boy. See you in 2027
What a tosser! Bully boy. See you in 2027 Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 2

10:43pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

p.s the steroids have made it to your ears!
p.s the steroids have made it to your ears! Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 2

11:21pm Tue 29 Jul 14

adspacebroker says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.
They should actually introduce a p e n i s regiment for people like this and send UKIP political wannabes out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real politicians out of them!
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.[/p][/quote]They should actually introduce a p e n i s regiment for people like this and send UKIP political wannabes out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real politicians out of them! adspacebroker
  • Score: -5

12:36am Wed 30 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.
And some wonder why UKIP is regarded as no more than a repository for all the cranks, fruitcakes and loonies this country has thrown up

You have to wonder sometimes if some of this stuff isn't posted up as a spoof - a sort of Private Eye Sir Herbert Gusset letter
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.[/p][/quote]And some wonder why UKIP is regarded as no more than a repository for all the cranks, fruitcakes and loonies this country has thrown up You have to wonder sometimes if some of this stuff isn't posted up as a spoof - a sort of Private Eye Sir Herbert Gusset letter Bob49
  • Score: 0

8:30am Wed 30 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.
And some wonder why UKIP is regarded as no more than a repository for all the cranks, fruitcakes and loonies this country has thrown up

You have to wonder sometimes if some of this stuff isn't posted up as a spoof - a sort of Private Eye Sir Herbert Gusset letter
You should NO.Bob49.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: They should introduce a penal regiment in the army for people like this, send them out to Afghan clearing IEDs, then they can show us how really tough they are. It might actually make real men out them and real men don't beat women.[/p][/quote]And some wonder why UKIP is regarded as no more than a repository for all the cranks, fruitcakes and loonies this country has thrown up You have to wonder sometimes if some of this stuff isn't posted up as a spoof - a sort of Private Eye Sir Herbert Gusset letter[/p][/quote]You should NO.Bob49. cromwell9
  • Score: 1

10:06am Wed 30 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
I'd say it was far more the steroids than the cannabis and people need to be educated far more on the effects that steroids can have on the human brain.

Maybe before using them people should ask themselves are a few extra muscles really worth turning yourself into this kind of sick and twisted animal?
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?[/p][/quote]I'd say it was far more the steroids than the cannabis and people need to be educated far more on the effects that steroids can have on the human brain. Maybe before using them people should ask themselves are a few extra muscles really worth turning yourself into this kind of sick and twisted animal? Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -1

8:27am Thu 31 Jul 14

kburke says...

nermal wrote:
You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent.
Yes, I thought that as soon as I read the 13 year sentence. After all said and done, this girl is still alive. 13 years isn't unrealistic for what he did but murderers should get more not less.
[quote][p][bold]nermal[/bold] wrote: You get less for murder - Kevin Burbidge got 10 years for killing his mother Marion Merritt six years ago. Is this worse? I'm not saying this sentence is wrong, just that sentencing is inconsistent.[/p][/quote]Yes, I thought that as soon as I read the 13 year sentence. After all said and done, this girl is still alive. 13 years isn't unrealistic for what he did but murderers should get more not less. kburke
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Sat 2 Aug 14

RM says...

High Treason wrote:
"Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall"

I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job.
'Unpopular at school' - so that makes it all right does it & gives him the right to behave like a scummy POS does it? Sentence far too light as he'll be out in half the time.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: "Defending, David Richards said Old had ADHD as a child and was unpopular at school, eventually being sent to a residential school in Kendall" I can never understand how anyone can defend scum like this, but I assume he is just doing his job.[/p][/quote]'Unpopular at school' - so that makes it all right does it & gives him the right to behave like a scummy POS does it? Sentence far too light as he'll be out in half the time. RM
  • Score: 1

6:46am Mon 4 Aug 14

GoinbacktoCali says...

breamoreboy wrote:
bobthedestroyer wrote:
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
Cannabis can and does do this, pretty frightening isn't it?
WRONG breamoreboy!!! I'm from a place that cannabis is legal and it does not do this!! Try steroids, they are known to bring out bouts of psychosis!! Cannabis just makes you lazy and order pizza!! Educate yourself before speaking next time!!
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?[/p][/quote]Cannabis can and does do this, pretty frightening isn't it?[/p][/quote]WRONG breamoreboy!!! I'm from a place that cannabis is legal and it does not do this!! Try steroids, they are known to bring out bouts of psychosis!! Cannabis just makes you lazy and order pizza!! Educate yourself before speaking next time!! GoinbacktoCali
  • Score: 3

8:29am Fri 8 Aug 14

onwheels says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?
Just another excuse to go with the childhood excuses. As a child I suffered more than 10 years of s/abuse. Any type of abuse leaves deep rooted rotten effects that you have to live with. I hope this lady gets as much help & support as she can. The physical pain will take long enough to heal. Its the psychological scars which are the most difficult to live with. it will take time & tough distressing days to live with the symptoms but don't give up. Young lady you have good reasons to fight the long battles ahead after the bruises have gone. Everyone is individual when it comes to psychological treatment & it might even take several trials to see what is best for you. You have to get that evil nasty rotten to the core excuse of a man out of your head, mind you if it helps to shout swear & scream get it out. You have a young child that needs its Mummy. I hope you have good support with family & friends. Get past all of the nasty names your life is what is the most important. I wish you well. 😉
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: If cannabis can do this then why is it classed so low or is this just to try and excuse a warped mentality?[/p][/quote]Just another excuse to go with the childhood excuses. As a child I suffered more than 10 years of s/abuse. Any type of abuse leaves deep rooted rotten effects that you have to live with. I hope this lady gets as much help & support as she can. The physical pain will take long enough to heal. Its the psychological scars which are the most difficult to live with. it will take time & tough distressing days to live with the symptoms but don't give up. Young lady you have good reasons to fight the long battles ahead after the bruises have gone. Everyone is individual when it comes to psychological treatment & it might even take several trials to see what is best for you. You have to get that evil nasty rotten to the core excuse of a man out of your head, mind you if it helps to shout swear & scream get it out. You have a young child that needs its Mummy. I hope you have good support with family & friends. Get past all of the nasty names your life is what is the most important. I wish you well. 😉 onwheels
  • Score: 3

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