Travellers set up camp at Baiter Park and Fleetsbridge

Travellers set up camp at Baiter Park and Fleetsbridge

Travellers set up camp at Baiter Park and Fleetsbridge

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TWO more traveller encampments have emerged in Poole.

This afternoon four caravans moved onto the car park at Baiter Park.

Meanwhile, three traveller caravans and a motor home were already occupying land near the Staples store at Fleetsbridge.

The Fleetsbridge unauthorised encampment is close to allotments and homes at Christopher Crescent.

Borough of Poole say these travellers are not the same as the group that moved on from the entrance of Creekmoor’s Park & Ride site last week.

That encampment was the first to accept temporary toilets under a new council policy.

On the Fleetsbridge site, Borough of Poole regulatory service manager Peter Haikin told the Daily Echo: “We have visited this small unauthorised encampment and are monitoring the situation.

“We have arranged for temporary toilets to be delivered to the site in line with our new policy. As far as we can see the immediate environment is being kept clean and tidy and the encampment itself is having no detrimental effect on the local community.”

Officers also confirmed they would be visiting the site.

Earlier this year councillors agreed to offer travellers the use of temporary toilets and skips, to help address environmental concerns.

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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4:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring..............
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Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring.............. . Wackerone
  • Score: -45

5:06pm Tue 15 Jul 14

echor23 says...

So now the council provide toilets to travellers who disrupt everyone else's lives?! Hmm, interesting!
So now the council provide toilets to travellers who disrupt everyone else's lives?! Hmm, interesting! echor23
  • Score: 73

5:11pm Tue 15 Jul 14

boyerboy says...

We can all sleep easy, the Council are monitoring the situation, thats a relieve .
We can all sleep easy, the Council are monitoring the situation, thats a relieve . boyerboy
  • Score: 62

5:19pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rayc says...

Council provided toilets for travellers but none for council tax payers in Broadstone or Ashley Road.
Council provided toilets for travellers but none for council tax payers in Broadstone or Ashley Road. rayc
  • Score: 118

5:24pm Tue 15 Jul 14

gerbil112 says...

So if I live in a caravan, I can avoid Council Tax, site rental and now Water Rates, and have everything just given to me for my comfort? Thank you for your generosity Poole Council, or should I say "Thank you Poole COUNCIL TAX PAYERS"!
So if I live in a caravan, I can avoid Council Tax, site rental and now Water Rates, and have everything just given to me for my comfort? Thank you for your generosity Poole Council, or should I say "Thank you Poole COUNCIL TAX PAYERS"! gerbil112
  • Score: 114

5:29pm Tue 15 Jul 14

sea poole says...

Second incursion into Baiter Park. Apparently the council was asked to install height barriers but this was turned down as it would deter other motor homes and camper vans.
Second incursion into Baiter Park. Apparently the council was asked to install height barriers but this was turned down as it would deter other motor homes and camper vans. sea poole
  • Score: 34

5:30pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Redgolfer says...

As the story states, the encampment is in the Car Park, I presume that all vehicles have tax and insurance, all WILL BE ticketed and any overstaying will have summonses put on the windscreen and recorded as such, as any other member of the public would ???
As the story states, the encampment is in the Car Park, I presume that all vehicles have tax and insurance, all WILL BE ticketed and any overstaying will have summonses put on the windscreen and recorded as such, as any other member of the public would ??? Redgolfer
  • Score: 92

5:31pm Tue 15 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Perhaps all Poole people can now obtain a free builder's skip from their Council when they need one, 'to address environmental concerns' of course - and apparently it comes with a free toilet.

Restore some intelligent common sense to our public services urgently please!
Perhaps all Poole people can now obtain a free builder's skip from their Council when they need one, 'to address environmental concerns' of course - and apparently it comes with a free toilet. Restore some intelligent common sense to our public services urgently please! muscliffman
  • Score: 86

5:34pm Tue 15 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

Let me get this right belong to a protected minority group you can park up at Baiter Park for free whilst the rest of us have to pay or risk getting a ticket. How can this be right ?
Let me get this right belong to a protected minority group you can park up at Baiter Park for free whilst the rest of us have to pay or risk getting a ticket. How can this be right ? BmthNewshound
  • Score: 80

5:46pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rayc says...

sea poole wrote:
Second incursion into Baiter Park. Apparently the council was asked to install height barriers but this was turned down as it would deter other motor homes and camper vans.
Height barriers would prevent legitimate motorhomes and camper vans but would not stop travellers for more than a few minutes. Is stopping legitimate users the way forward in a similar way as closing public toilets but providing them to travellers?
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Second incursion into Baiter Park. Apparently the council was asked to install height barriers but this was turned down as it would deter other motor homes and camper vans.[/p][/quote]Height barriers would prevent legitimate motorhomes and camper vans but would not stop travellers for more than a few minutes. Is stopping legitimate users the way forward in a similar way as closing public toilets but providing them to travellers? rayc
  • Score: 14

5:49pm Tue 15 Jul 14

John T says...

If I had a pound for every comment there will be on this (?) news story, I would not need time to pay my Council Tax for the benefit of Travellers and other such scavengers.
If I had a pound for every comment there will be on this (?) news story, I would not need time to pay my Council Tax for the benefit of Travellers and other such scavengers. John T
  • Score: 15

6:20pm Tue 15 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

Shouldn't the headline read "Free-loading holidaymakers set up camp"?

These people do have permanent addresses, their vehicles are registered and insured, to do this an address is needed.

I trust that their vehicles have been blocked in on the basis of being free to move once they have their caravans hitched up, that will prevent them roaming the area in search of work.

Just remember people, they will stay longer if they can find people willing to employ them, cut that work off and they will go.
Shouldn't the headline read "Free-loading holidaymakers set up camp"? These people do have permanent addresses, their vehicles are registered and insured, to do this an address is needed. I trust that their vehicles have been blocked in on the basis of being free to move once they have their caravans hitched up, that will prevent them roaming the area in search of work. Just remember people, they will stay longer if they can find people willing to employ them, cut that work off and they will go. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 48

6:24pm Tue 15 Jul 14

loftusrod says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
Let me get this right belong to a protected minority group you can park up at Baiter Park for free whilst the rest of us have to pay or risk getting a ticket. How can this be right ?
How do Poole Council know they belong to this group?
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: Let me get this right belong to a protected minority group you can park up at Baiter Park for free whilst the rest of us have to pay or risk getting a ticket. How can this be right ?[/p][/quote]How do Poole Council know they belong to this group? loftusrod
  • Score: 14

6:26pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

I notice the arrival of travellers at the entrance of Creekmoor Park and ride wasn't reported. What have the residents of Creekmoor that it wasn't reported? Oh, silly question.
I notice the arrival of travellers at the entrance of Creekmoor Park and ride wasn't reported. What have the residents of Creekmoor that it wasn't reported? Oh, silly question. Carolyn43
  • Score: 12

6:28pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Blackmini86 says...

Can the council install some stone bollards?
Can the council install some stone bollards? Blackmini86
  • Score: 4

6:30pm Tue 15 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Why do we not get incursions in the winter ? Got it.Because there in their nice, warm homes and their are not real travellers.So forget the PC bullsh*t as we have right too !
Why do we not get incursions in the winter ? Got it.Because there in their nice, warm homes and their are not real travellers.So forget the PC bullsh*t as we have right too ! politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 43

6:31pm Tue 15 Jul 14

holdinkæft says...

Charge them for the services provided.
Charge them for the services provided. holdinkæft
  • Score: 35

6:31pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

“We have arranged for temporary toilets to be delivered to the site in line with our new policy. As far as we can see the immediate environment is being kept clean and tidy and the encampment itself is having no detrimental effect on the local community.”
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Oh well that's ok then, no need to bother moving them on, let them stay there all summer, council tax payers will foot the bill.
Why don't councils grow some balls and bulldoze thees cretins off.
“We have arranged for temporary toilets to be delivered to the site in line with our new policy. As far as we can see the immediate environment is being kept clean and tidy and the encampment itself is having no detrimental effect on the local community.” . Oh well that's ok then, no need to bother moving them on, let them stay there all summer, council tax payers will foot the bill. Why don't councils grow some balls and bulldoze thees cretins off. Hessenford
  • Score: 56

6:37pm Tue 15 Jul 14

afcdibby says...

Temporary toilets and skips. How about a mobile cafe so they can eat.
Temporary toilets and skips. How about a mobile cafe so they can eat. afcdibby
  • Score: 41

6:46pm Tue 15 Jul 14

kinsonjim says...

Here we go again, same problem and the same excusses and 'blurb' from Council officials. Year after year. Never mind, in a few weeks 'they' will all be gone back to where ever they came from. All their rubbish etc will be cleared up and the costs paid by the Rate Payers once again. Is there no one who can solve this annual problem that affects every Law Abiding citizen in 'our' County. What is the recognised term? 'Unfit For Purpose'
springs to mind. Never mind, it will be the Airshow next so citzens who want a good view, go put your canpervan on the east cliffs now before 'they' do.
Here we go again, same problem and the same excusses and 'blurb' from Council officials. Year after year. Never mind, in a few weeks 'they' will all be gone back to where ever they came from. All their rubbish etc will be cleared up and the costs paid by the Rate Payers once again. Is there no one who can solve this annual problem that affects every Law Abiding citizen in 'our' County. What is the recognised term? 'Unfit For Purpose' springs to mind. Never mind, it will be the Airshow next so citzens who want a good view, go put your canpervan on the east cliffs now before 'they' do. kinsonjim
  • Score: 38

7:30pm Tue 15 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Have just heard that there are 3 caravans on Kinson Common tonight:-((
Have just heard that there are 3 caravans on Kinson Common tonight:-(( G from Kinson
  • Score: 10

7:52pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws.
I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)
So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws. I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.) Minty Fresh
  • Score: 42

8:11pm Tue 15 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Wait until they hear about the 7star hotel that will appear at Sandbanks any time soon
Wait until they hear about the 7star hotel that will appear at Sandbanks any time soon kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 16

8:15pm Tue 15 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Crept in set up using Maplin stealth technology .the cops never seen them coming
Crept in set up using Maplin stealth technology .the cops never seen them coming kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 9

8:24pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Wackerone wrote:
Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring..............

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Agreed. If people kept their previous p1key comments in a new folder in their 'my documents folder' titled 'my previous p1key echo comments' then they could simply copy and paste them into this new thread. It would save them a lot of time and keyboard tapping for exactly the same result.

E.g what you said last time nobody gave a hoot about and made no difference to the outcome.


E.g., Nor will it this time. Go and do something more productive like washing your windows. They could do with it !
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring.............. .[/p][/quote]Agreed. If people kept their previous p1key comments in a new folder in their 'my documents folder' titled 'my previous p1key echo comments' then they could simply copy and paste them into this new thread. It would save them a lot of time and keyboard tapping for exactly the same result. E.g what you said last time nobody gave a hoot about and made no difference to the outcome. E.g., Nor will it this time. Go and do something more productive like washing your windows. They could do with it ! Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -22

8:28pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Baysider says...

They say we're young and we don't know...
We won't find out until we grow...
They say we're young and we don't know... We won't find out until we grow... Baysider
  • Score: -8

8:52pm Tue 15 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Is there an Irish caravan club web site that Recommends preferred Sites.in soft touch towns,where the council doesn't give a stuff what the rate payers think
Is there an Irish caravan club web site that Recommends preferred Sites.in soft touch towns,where the council doesn't give a stuff what the rate payers think kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 23

8:56pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring..............


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Agreed. If people kept their previous p1key comments in a new folder in their 'my documents folder' titled 'my previous p1key echo comments' then they could simply copy and paste them into this new thread. It would save them a lot of time and keyboard tapping for exactly the same result.

E.g what you said last time nobody gave a hoot about and made no difference to the outcome.


E.g., Nor will it this time. Go and do something more productive like washing your windows. They could do with it !
People like you are complete fools who have no moral compass, no respect for the law, no respect for other people or their property and no respect for anything other than self interest.... just like the law breaking nomadic individuals you defend.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring.............. .[/p][/quote]Agreed. If people kept their previous p1key comments in a new folder in their 'my documents folder' titled 'my previous p1key echo comments' then they could simply copy and paste them into this new thread. It would save them a lot of time and keyboard tapping for exactly the same result. E.g what you said last time nobody gave a hoot about and made no difference to the outcome. E.g., Nor will it this time. Go and do something more productive like washing your windows. They could do with it ![/p][/quote]People like you are complete fools who have no moral compass, no respect for the law, no respect for other people or their property and no respect for anything other than self interest.... just like the law breaking nomadic individuals you defend. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 23

8:59pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

Why do the echo discriminate against travelers by reporting their movements across the county?? They don't report the movements of the non travelers
Why do the echo discriminate against travelers by reporting their movements across the county?? They don't report the movements of the non travelers Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: -19

9:02pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

That's not true Minty Fresh.
All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference.

Use your time and anger more productively.
That's not true Minty Fresh. All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference. Use your time and anger more productively. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -16

9:15pm Tue 15 Jul 14

susi.m says...

We are discriminated against because we are NOT allowed to park our caravans etc where we like.
It is not a level playing field in this country anymore.
We are discriminated against because we are NOT allowed to park our caravans etc where we like. It is not a level playing field in this country anymore. susi.m
  • Score: 26

9:56pm Tue 15 Jul 14

BluebirdDorset says...

One of them pulled out in front of me this evening approaching miller and carter roundabout. You'd have thought I was a criminal, the language from all of the car was atrocious because I beeped my horn. Nice bunch as always heading our way!!!!
One of them pulled out in front of me this evening approaching miller and carter roundabout. You'd have thought I was a criminal, the language from all of the car was atrocious because I beeped my horn. Nice bunch as always heading our way!!!! BluebirdDorset
  • Score: 19

9:58pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Gonetothebeach says...

I certainly don't condone travellers turning up on unauthorised sites and disrupting local communities - however, my impression from media reports is that the problems so far this year are much less than last year - and if the cost of supplying a skip and toilets is less than the cost of clean-up otherwise then our councils are to be supported in what they have done this year.
I just wish that I fully understood why sites have to be made available and why travellers seemingly don't have to comply with the parking restrictions the rest of us do and I haven't yet seen an explanation why, if they occupy a car park, they aren't required to pay the charges.
I certainly don't condone travellers turning up on unauthorised sites and disrupting local communities - however, my impression from media reports is that the problems so far this year are much less than last year - and if the cost of supplying a skip and toilets is less than the cost of clean-up otherwise then our councils are to be supported in what they have done this year. I just wish that I fully understood why sites have to be made available and why travellers seemingly don't have to comply with the parking restrictions the rest of us do and I haven't yet seen an explanation why, if they occupy a car park, they aren't required to pay the charges. Gonetothebeach
  • Score: 6

10:36pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Pandering to a law-breaking (probably foreign) minority? All those involved are utterly disgraceful.
Pandering to a law-breaking (probably foreign) minority? All those involved are utterly disgraceful. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 12

10:36pm Tue 15 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

echor23 wrote:
So now the council provide toilets to travellers who disrupt everyone else's lives?! Hmm, interesting!
Hmm sounds like Poole council's new policies are to welcome illegal camps now.
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If it's a bigger camp are the council going to lay on a BBQ and sausages?
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: So now the council provide toilets to travellers who disrupt everyone else's lives?! Hmm, interesting![/p][/quote]Hmm sounds like Poole council's new policies are to welcome illegal camps now. . If it's a bigger camp are the council going to lay on a BBQ and sausages? HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 13

10:37pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Yankee1 says...

Redgolfer wrote:
As the story states, the encampment is in the Car Park, I presume that all vehicles have tax and insurance, all WILL BE ticketed and any overstaying will have summonses put on the windscreen and recorded as such, as any other member of the public would ???
The Police do not inspect those vehicles for any infractions. unless an incident occurs, such as a road accident. To do so would be construed as 'ethnic profiling'.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer[/bold] wrote: As the story states, the encampment is in the Car Park, I presume that all vehicles have tax and insurance, all WILL BE ticketed and any overstaying will have summonses put on the windscreen and recorded as such, as any other member of the public would ???[/p][/quote]The Police do not inspect those vehicles for any infractions. unless an incident occurs, such as a road accident. To do so would be construed as 'ethnic profiling'. Yankee1
  • Score: 12

10:39pm Tue 15 Jul 14

typ nowhere says...

Streetview Rathkeale in google maps around a road called fairhill
Streetview Rathkeale in google maps around a road called fairhill typ nowhere
  • Score: 7

10:47pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Yankee1 says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws.
I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)
Newsquest is owned by Gannett, a US entity. That is true.

But where I currently reside, in the US, should 'gypsies' (as they are called here) roll up on public land in a similar manner, they would be escorted to the town/county line by the Sheriff's department. Failure to comply will result in jail, confiscation of vehicles, and probably the children taken into care.

Should they roll up on private land and threaten the land owner exercising his legal rights to protect his property, they would be met with a gun and given a fair amount of time to leave. Like NOW.

I am sure the British tut-tut at that, but quietly wish that its own home were truly its castle. Wake up, Britain. You are being mocked by travelers.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws. I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)[/p][/quote]Newsquest is owned by Gannett, a US entity. That is true. But where I currently reside, in the US, should 'gypsies' (as they are called here) roll up on public land in a similar manner, they would be escorted to the town/county line by the Sheriff's department. Failure to comply will result in jail, confiscation of vehicles, and probably the children taken into care. Should they roll up on private land and threaten the land owner exercising his legal rights to protect his property, they would be met with a gun and given a fair amount of time to leave. Like NOW. I am sure the British tut-tut at that, but quietly wish that its own home were truly its castle. Wake up, Britain. You are being mocked by travelers. Yankee1
  • Score: 33

10:51pm Tue 15 Jul 14

RM says...

Unhappy with how the Council are treating travellers? It's Election year in 2015.
Unhappy with how the Council are treating travellers? It's Election year in 2015. RM
  • Score: 17

10:55pm Tue 15 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
That's not true Minty Fresh.
All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference.

Use your time and anger more productively.
Naive twit!
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Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues.
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It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites.
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You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually.
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Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter....
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: That's not true Minty Fresh. All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference. Use your time and anger more productively.[/p][/quote]Naive twit! . Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues. . It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites. . You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually. . Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter.... HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 8

10:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

rotcoddam says...

Given that some dopey out of touch with reality judge has decreed that Irish Travellers are an ethnic group. The council has to abide by the law as it stands and afford them certain facilities by law.

However surely to claim an imunity or privilage surely a claimant has to produce proof of entitlement. I am given to understand that the Irish govenment does not recognise the distinction of Traveller. If such is the case then do their papers not merely state "nationality Irish" Irish people cannot by any stretch of the imagination be classed as a minority group anywhere on this planet. How do they prove their claim to be Irish Travellers and hence protected as a minority and not merely Irish tourists, who aren't a protected minority.
Given that some dopey out of touch with reality judge has decreed that Irish Travellers are an ethnic group. The council has to abide by the law as it stands and afford them certain facilities by law. However surely to claim an imunity or privilage surely a claimant has to produce proof of entitlement. I am given to understand that the Irish govenment does not recognise the distinction of Traveller. If such is the case then do their papers not merely state "nationality Irish" Irish people cannot by any stretch of the imagination be classed as a minority group anywhere on this planet. How do they prove their claim to be Irish Travellers and hence protected as a minority and not merely Irish tourists, who aren't a protected minority. rotcoddam
  • Score: 12

11:02pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Now can the council tell us what checks are made to determine if these folk are real bona fida 'travellers' and that they are not any old thieving chancer on the scrounge.

Perhaps the Daily Echo could ask the council what these checks are
Now can the council tell us what checks are made to determine if these folk are real bona fida 'travellers' and that they are not any old thieving chancer on the scrounge. Perhaps the Daily Echo could ask the council what these checks are Bob49
  • Score: 9

11:09pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
That's not true Minty Fresh.
All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference.

Use your time and anger more productively.
Naive twit!
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Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues.
.
It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites.
.
You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually.
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Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter....
Not at all HRH.

From memory there has been 3 similar p1key stories here in the last 2 months.

1. Baiter park
2. Hamworthy
3. Behind the B.I.C with sea views.
And now Baiter Park again.So after all the ranting, raving, cursing, swearing and getting angry, exactly what has productively been achieved from it by posting endless rants here ?

Answer = nothing.
In fact its worse, the council are now taking portable toilets out to them for free !!

You see.....I can't make it any clearer....
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: That's not true Minty Fresh. All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference. Use your time and anger more productively.[/p][/quote]Naive twit! . Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues. . It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites. . You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually. . Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter....[/p][/quote]Not at all HRH. From memory there has been 3 similar p1key stories here in the last 2 months. 1. Baiter park 2. Hamworthy 3. Behind the B.I.C with sea views. And now Baiter Park again.So after all the ranting, raving, cursing, swearing and getting angry, exactly what has productively been achieved from it by posting endless rants here ? Answer = nothing. In fact its worse, the council are now taking portable toilets out to them for free !! You see.....I can't make it any clearer.... Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 1

11:39pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Baysider says...

They say we're young and we don't know... We won't find out until we grow...
They say we're young and we don't know... We won't find out until we grow... Baysider
  • Score: -4

11:46pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Shiny happy people having fun.....
Shiny happy people having fun..... Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -7

11:51pm Tue 15 Jul 14

wadjit says...

They do all the time now. Its a popular holiday spot for them.
They do all the time now. Its a popular holiday spot for them. wadjit
  • Score: 5

12:08am Wed 16 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Blackmini86 wrote:
Can the council install some stone bollards?
On what part of the travellers' anatomy?
[quote][p][bold]Blackmini86[/bold] wrote: Can the council install some stone bollards?[/p][/quote]On what part of the travellers' anatomy? breamoreboy
  • Score: 11

12:10am Wed 16 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

afcdibby wrote:
Temporary toilets and skips. How about a mobile cafe so they can eat.
No no no not good enough. It will have to be a permanent building with waitress service.
[quote][p][bold]afcdibby[/bold] wrote: Temporary toilets and skips. How about a mobile cafe so they can eat.[/p][/quote]No no no not good enough. It will have to be a permanent building with waitress service. breamoreboy
  • Score: 9

1:12am Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
That's not true Minty Fresh.
All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference.

Use your time and anger more productively.
Naive twit!
.
Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues.
.
It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites.
.
You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually.
.
Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter....
Not at all HRH.

From memory there has been 3 similar p1key stories here in the last 2 months.

1. Baiter park
2. Hamworthy
3. Behind the B.I.C with sea views.
And now Baiter Park again.So after all the ranting, raving, cursing, swearing and getting angry, exactly what has productively been achieved from it by posting endless rants here ?

Answer = nothing.
In fact its worse, the council are now taking portable toilets out to them for free !!

You see.....I can't make it any clearer....
likewise your bleating about folk posting their thoughts, has not stopped them from continuing to post

perhaps you could tell us what your whinging has achieved

. ........... or why you bothered to read all those posts in the first place
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: That's not true Minty Fresh. All i'm saying is that saying the same old same old comments here that you've said before, time and time again will make no difference. Use your time and anger more productively.[/p][/quote]Naive twit! . Social media now provides a place to share opinions about these local issues. . It may not be nuclear power but has already proven the majority want something done about these parasites. . You or I can't change laws overnight but social media does bring a more united voice that will be heard eventually. . Your voice will never be heard because you're obviously a quitter....[/p][/quote]Not at all HRH. From memory there has been 3 similar p1key stories here in the last 2 months. 1. Baiter park 2. Hamworthy 3. Behind the B.I.C with sea views. And now Baiter Park again.So after all the ranting, raving, cursing, swearing and getting angry, exactly what has productively been achieved from it by posting endless rants here ? Answer = nothing. In fact its worse, the council are now taking portable toilets out to them for free !! You see.....I can't make it any clearer....[/p][/quote]likewise your bleating about folk posting their thoughts, has not stopped them from continuing to post perhaps you could tell us what your whinging has achieved . ........... or why you bothered to read all those posts in the first place Bob49
  • Score: 4

1:21am Wed 16 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Why do we not get incursions in the winter ? Got it.Because there in their nice, warm homes and their are not real travellers.So forget the PC bullsh*t as we have right too !
oh dear. it didn't take long for one of the 'political correctness gone mad' brigade to pop up with more Mail inspoired witless drivel

these supposed travellers are protected by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court

if you and the rest of your like minded simpletons stopped squeaking about everything being PC and actually bothred to check your facts first we might begin to make some progress, rather than have this problem constantly (and conveniently for some) diverted by your idiocies

so stop bleating out what your masters have written on the side of the barn wall - and try to educate yourself
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Why do we not get incursions in the winter ? Got it.Because there in their nice, warm homes and their are not real travellers.So forget the PC bullsh*t as we have right too ![/p][/quote]oh dear. it didn't take long for one of the 'political correctness gone mad' brigade to pop up with more Mail inspoired witless drivel these supposed travellers are protected by a ruling made by an English judge in an English court if you and the rest of your like minded simpletons stopped squeaking about everything being PC and actually bothred to check your facts first we might begin to make some progress, rather than have this problem constantly (and conveniently for some) diverted by your idiocies so stop bleating out what your masters have written on the side of the barn wall - and try to educate yourself Bob49
  • Score: -1

2:03am Wed 16 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

I can tell you are angry and frustrated Bob49.

I do not bemoan you for that. Me too. I have had to post here just to calm people down. You'll notice no ranting from my camp.
I'm merely trying to reign in the pointless vitriol aand hopefully save some of you from a nasty stomach ulcer caused by bile build up regarding the ongoing p1key situation.

These cases will arise throughout the summer, but sweet October brings us all peace, happiness bar a few angry hornets that buzz around the light bulb looking for a living thing to sting to death.

But, the p1keys are gone, back on the ferry to Oirland be jeezes.

Be patient Bob, your wishes will come true.
I can tell you are angry and frustrated Bob49. I do not bemoan you for that. Me too. I have had to post here just to calm people down. You'll notice no ranting from my camp. I'm merely trying to reign in the pointless vitriol aand hopefully save some of you from a nasty stomach ulcer caused by bile build up regarding the ongoing p1key situation. These cases will arise throughout the summer, but sweet October brings us all peace, happiness bar a few angry hornets that buzz around the light bulb looking for a living thing to sting to death. But, the p1keys are gone, back on the ferry to Oirland be jeezes. Be patient Bob, your wishes will come true. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -3

8:06am Wed 16 Jul 14

uvox44 says...

Until a permanent solution is found I think the council has done the sensible thing providing toilets and a skip , yes that costs money but then so does cleaning up . Yes they shouldn't have to but until a solution is found surely they have taken a pragmatic approach .
Until a permanent solution is found I think the council has done the sensible thing providing toilets and a skip , yes that costs money but then so does cleaning up . Yes they shouldn't have to but until a solution is found surely they have taken a pragmatic approach . uvox44
  • Score: 3

8:33am Wed 16 Jul 14

adspacebroker says...

I have just phone my brother and told him to bring his kids and the caravan down from Birmingham when they break up from school next week. I told him he could park up at Baiter, great pitch, new toilets, stunning harbour views, short walk to the shops and pubs..........and all for less than nothing per week. Same old story PBC.....do nothing, contribute nothing, get everything. Why don't you send some council cleaners in to scrub their caravans too!
I have just phone my brother and told him to bring his kids and the caravan down from Birmingham when they break up from school next week. I told him he could park up at Baiter, great pitch, new toilets, stunning harbour views, short walk to the shops and pubs..........and all for less than nothing per week. Same old story PBC.....do nothing, contribute nothing, get everything. Why don't you send some council cleaners in to scrub their caravans too! adspacebroker
  • Score: 9

8:39am Wed 16 Jul 14

pacamar says...

The only people you can blame for pandering to these parasites are your local councilors. All those who want to see that those who contribute nothing receive nothing, and are dealt with under the law, the same as the rest of us need to make their feelings known to their councilors. Then, if they fail to represent you in a proper manner, vote them out of office next year. That is what I intend to do.
The only people you can blame for pandering to these parasites are your local councilors. All those who want to see that those who contribute nothing receive nothing, and are dealt with under the law, the same as the rest of us need to make their feelings known to their councilors. Then, if they fail to represent you in a proper manner, vote them out of office next year. That is what I intend to do. pacamar
  • Score: 5

8:41am Wed 16 Jul 14

G from Kinson says...

Now 7 caravans and assorted vehicles on Kinson Common.People seen wandering off into the bushes:-((
Now 7 caravans and assorted vehicles on Kinson Common.People seen wandering off into the bushes:-(( G from Kinson
  • Score: 2

9:17am Wed 16 Jul 14

RM says...

pacamar wrote:
The only people you can blame for pandering to these parasites are your local councilors. All those who want to see that those who contribute nothing receive nothing, and are dealt with under the law, the same as the rest of us need to make their feelings known to their councilors. Then, if they fail to represent you in a proper manner, vote them out of office next year. That is what I intend to do.
In fairness, some Cllrs have fought on behalf of their ward residents over this issue but they have been overridden by the PC bulls*** attitudes of Council staff & the police. So worthwhile checking out your Cllrs before making your voting choice & the position of PPC is also votable.
[quote][p][bold]pacamar[/bold] wrote: The only people you can blame for pandering to these parasites are your local councilors. All those who want to see that those who contribute nothing receive nothing, and are dealt with under the law, the same as the rest of us need to make their feelings known to their councilors. Then, if they fail to represent you in a proper manner, vote them out of office next year. That is what I intend to do.[/p][/quote]In fairness, some Cllrs have fought on behalf of their ward residents over this issue but they have been overridden by the PC bulls*** attitudes of Council staff & the police. So worthwhile checking out your Cllrs before making your voting choice & the position of PPC is also votable. RM
  • Score: 1

11:08am Wed 16 Jul 14

Red Leader 1 says...

Seem to remember that Baiter was one of 6 priority locations to be beefed up to protect it from further visitations. Seems to have worked well then!
Whats that....car parks not included in the scheme?
In that case, perhaps a large welcome sign could be erected!
On second thoughts, it doesnt look like we need it.
Exhasasperating or what.
Seem to remember that Baiter was one of 6 priority locations to be beefed up to protect it from further visitations. Seems to have worked well then! Whats that....car parks not included in the scheme? In that case, perhaps a large welcome sign could be erected! On second thoughts, it doesnt look like we need it. Exhasasperating or what. Red Leader 1
  • Score: 0

11:16am Wed 16 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws.
I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)
Newsquest is owned by Gannett, a US entity. That is true.

But where I currently reside, in the US, should 'gypsies' (as they are called here) roll up on public land in a similar manner, they would be escorted to the town/county line by the Sheriff's department. Failure to comply will result in jail, confiscation of vehicles, and probably the children taken into care.

Should they roll up on private land and threaten the land owner exercising his legal rights to protect his property, they would be met with a gun and given a fair amount of time to leave. Like NOW.

I am sure the British tut-tut at that, but quietly wish that its own home were truly its castle. Wake up, Britain. You are being mocked by travelers.
Actually, the idiot councillors are being mocked by the Caravan Using Nomadic Travelling Society. Joe Public knows exactly what the score is, but the council has no balls.
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: So once again the Echo report the latest incursion by travellers and once again they shy away from actually backing the local people who have had enough of picking up the pieces after these non law abiding individuals. Again I will state very clearly that I am NOT a racist. If these people want to live a nomadic lifestyle that's fine by me, PROVIDED they abide by the same laws the rest of us do and face the same punishment we would if they break those laws. I also think it's disgusting that this local paper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, has utterly failed it's readers by not launching a campaign for a law change that would see these undesirables face the consequences of their law breaking. Shame on you Daily Echo and your American owners Newsquest (who only care about how much money they make for their shareholders and stuff local issues.)[/p][/quote]Newsquest is owned by Gannett, a US entity. That is true. But where I currently reside, in the US, should 'gypsies' (as they are called here) roll up on public land in a similar manner, they would be escorted to the town/county line by the Sheriff's department. Failure to comply will result in jail, confiscation of vehicles, and probably the children taken into care. Should they roll up on private land and threaten the land owner exercising his legal rights to protect his property, they would be met with a gun and given a fair amount of time to leave. Like NOW. I am sure the British tut-tut at that, but quietly wish that its own home were truly its castle. Wake up, Britain. You are being mocked by travelers.[/p][/quote]Actually, the idiot councillors are being mocked by the Caravan Using Nomadic Travelling Society. Joe Public knows exactly what the score is, but the council has no balls. speedy231278
  • Score: 2

11:17am Wed 16 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

So, did the chain ferry chain break, or have this lot weighed it in? ;-)
So, did the chain ferry chain break, or have this lot weighed it in? ;-) speedy231278
  • Score: 6

11:37am Wed 16 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Firstly it is noted that the Bournemouth Echo gets its safety notice on to the pages once again. I have never seen one business that supports travellers so much, and has no thought for the very people who keep this paper afloat.

If travellers are parked on Council Parking Space are they not covered by the no camping over night rule, yet Poole feel it is their right to give them toilets and rubbish skips. I do see the logic, no bushes full of human waste, or piles of rubbish lying by the road side, but surely this is inviting them to stay F FREE OF CHARGE, and playing into their hands.

As I have said before, they are here for the Steam Fair at Blandford, where they will all park up and pay for that period. The land owner should be forced to open up his land for them as they arrive, so as not to soil our parks, car parks and open spaces with their filth.
Firstly it is noted that the Bournemouth Echo gets its safety notice on to the pages once again. I have never seen one business that supports travellers so much, and has no thought for the very people who keep this paper afloat. If travellers are parked on Council Parking Space are they not covered by the no camping over night rule, yet Poole feel it is their right to give them toilets and rubbish skips. I do see the logic, no bushes full of human waste, or piles of rubbish lying by the road side, but surely this is inviting them to stay F FREE OF CHARGE, and playing into their hands. As I have said before, they are here for the Steam Fair at Blandford, where they will all park up and pay for that period. The land owner should be forced to open up his land for them as they arrive, so as not to soil our parks, car parks and open spaces with their filth. TheDistrict
  • Score: 2

12:19pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Wackerone wrote:
Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring..............

.
Like yours, you mean?
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Waiting for the same old comments. Yawn, boring.............. .[/p][/quote]Like yours, you mean? Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 5

12:32pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Dave2207 says...

I hope that the toilets had clear instructions, in pictures for the illiterate, as to how they should be used! These facilities must be a novelty, as the itinerants commonly 'go' behind sports pavilions, hedges, in shop-doorways, etc., to the detriment of local residents.
I hope that the toilets had clear instructions, in pictures for the illiterate, as to how they should be used! These facilities must be a novelty, as the itinerants commonly 'go' behind sports pavilions, hedges, in shop-doorways, etc., to the detriment of local residents. Dave2207
  • Score: 0

1:42pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Molecatcher says...

"Earlier this year councillors agreed to offer travellers the use of temporary toilets and skips".

That's very generous of them. Presumably they paid for this out their own money... Otherwise, the toilets and skips are provided by the generosity of the Poole council tax payers... The council are far too free and easy when it comes to spending someone else's money. I just phoned the council and asked them to deliver a skip... Can't do it... "But", I said, " I pay my council tax. Are you really suggesting that I can only have a skip if I don't pay council tax?"... "Well... ", said the operative... "Yes"...
"Earlier this year councillors agreed to offer travellers the use of temporary toilets and skips". That's very generous of them. Presumably they paid for this out their own money... Otherwise, the toilets and skips are provided by the generosity of the Poole council tax payers... The council are far too free and easy when it comes to spending someone else's money. I just phoned the council and asked them to deliver a skip... Can't do it... "But", I said, " I pay my council tax. Are you really suggesting that I can only have a skip if I don't pay council tax?"... "Well... ", said the operative... "Yes"... Molecatcher
  • Score: 4

4:24pm Wed 16 Jul 14

askquestion says...

maybe when they arrive in the lower gardens. someone will notice and get them shifted. musnt upset the holiday makers must we ? ive hear that the car park at the town hall is quite large.! should be able to cram a few on there. lovely view of the upper gardens. and close to tesco.
maybe when they arrive in the lower gardens. someone will notice and get them shifted. musnt upset the holiday makers must we ? ive hear that the car park at the town hall is quite large.! should be able to cram a few on there. lovely view of the upper gardens. and close to tesco. askquestion
  • Score: 0

9:55pm Wed 16 Jul 14

jas4jan says...

So what these people as we call em are living the dream shame more of us don't take to the road they live week by week they do some jobs that no other lazy **** will do we are all animals we live of animals life at its most natural good on them all
So what these people as we call em are living the dream shame more of us don't take to the road they live week by week they do some jobs that no other lazy **** will do we are all animals we live of animals life at its most natural good on them all jas4jan
  • Score: -4

12:01pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Argie Bhagie says...

I was not aware that Irish Travellers were so interested in steam preservation. Oh well.
I was not aware that Irish Travellers were so interested in steam preservation. Oh well. Argie Bhagie
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dorset Logic says...

I wonder if its OK to drive above 20 mph without tax and insurance?
Must look into that.
I wonder if its OK to drive above 20 mph without tax and insurance? Must look into that. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 1

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