The big blue badge amnesty: Council in bid to tackle system abuse

Bournemouth Echo: A car in a Castlepoint disabled bay A car in a Castlepoint disabled bay

BOURNEMOUTH council is planning an amnesty on blue badges for disabled drivers in order to try to reduce the number of people abusing the system.

An amnesty will take place in August and will involve drop-in boxes being placed in libraries to encourage people to hand in invalid blue badges.

The idea was suggested by Labour Cllr Ben Grower, the chair of Bournemouth’s audit and governance committee.

It follows a council crackdown on blue badge abusers, which has seen 19 badges seized and one successful prosecution.

Blue badges are awarded to disabled people who meet selected criteria.

Holders have the right to park in disabled bays and on single or double yellow lines for up to three hours.

Cllr Grower said: “I just thought a blue badge amnesty might be worth trying.

“It’s not the biggest problem there is but it tends to annoy the general public as a whole when they see the system being abused.

“Even if people don’t actually hand in badges, it might bring the issue to the forefront.

“And it’s nice to know the council is not just in the business of prosecuting people.

“If we can help ease the problem by having amnesties and such like, I think that’s a good way for the council to act.

A council report to the last audit and governance meeting said: “The council is committed to ensuring that people with disabilities are provided with accessible parking around the town.

“With this in mind, dedicated spaces are available to those persons who are granted a disabled parking blue badge.

“The corporate fraud team has responded to referrals received and a recent blue badge drive in the town with the council’s civilian enforcement officers was successful.

"Liaisons with car park operators to identify those who abuse the scheme has led to “tip offs” and to badge seizures.”

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5:28am Wed 2 Jul 14

yet_another_one says...

Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ? yet_another_one
  • Score: 48

6:30am Wed 2 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled? breamoreboy
  • Score: -8

6:58am Wed 2 Jul 14

S,Bowes says...

I can imagine the vigilantes waiting outside the library waiting to take a photo of anyone dropping their dodgy badge off ,
I can imagine the vigilantes waiting outside the library waiting to take a photo of anyone dropping their dodgy badge off , S,Bowes
  • Score: 5

7:06am Wed 2 Jul 14

Baysider says...

breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car. Baysider
  • Score: 51

7:16am Wed 2 Jul 14

nosuchluck54 says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Or a case of "the green eyed monster"
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Or a case of "the green eyed monster" nosuchluck54
  • Score: 7

7:19am Wed 2 Jul 14

Phixer says...

S,Bowes wrote:
I can imagine the vigilantes waiting outside the library waiting to take a photo of anyone dropping their dodgy badge off ,
Just how many people do you think are going to return a blue badge? If anyone feels guilty, they will just tear it up or put it in a drawer, or wait until the heat is off and start using it again.
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: I can imagine the vigilantes waiting outside the library waiting to take a photo of anyone dropping their dodgy badge off ,[/p][/quote]Just how many people do you think are going to return a blue badge? If anyone feels guilty, they will just tear it up or put it in a drawer, or wait until the heat is off and start using it again. Phixer
  • Score: 45

7:29am Wed 2 Jul 14

Jetwasher says...

I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ! Jetwasher
  • Score: 16

7:33am Wed 2 Jul 14

yet_another_one says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Or a case of "the green eyed monster"
Not at all - I wouldn't p/ex my Bentley Continental for any model of Ferrari.
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Or a case of "the green eyed monster"[/p][/quote]Not at all - I wouldn't p/ex my Bentley Continental for any model of Ferrari. yet_another_one
  • Score: 7

7:38am Wed 2 Jul 14

S,Bowes says...

Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?
[quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]Have you checked the lady is not on fire ? S,Bowes
  • Score: 22

7:47am Wed 2 Jul 14

BournemouthMum says...

breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 43

7:48am Wed 2 Jul 14

ben111 says...

Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy. ben111
  • Score: 23

7:48am Wed 2 Jul 14

BournemouthMum says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
You are ignorant and narrow minded!
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]You are ignorant and narrow minded! BournemouthMum
  • Score: 6

7:53am Wed 2 Jul 14

djd says...

Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
She probably needs the blue badge because the smoking has affected her health so much that she needs the oxygen.
Probably finds it impossible ot give up smoking, even if she wanted to.
Doesn't make her an old hag thought,does it?
[quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]She probably needs the blue badge because the smoking has affected her health so much that she needs the oxygen. Probably finds it impossible ot give up smoking, even if she wanted to. Doesn't make her an old hag thought,does it? djd
  • Score: 9

7:54am Wed 2 Jul 14

flippsie says...

Right those awarded with high rate mobility and look abled bodied are those with special needs who have no sense of danger to road safety or anything. And then there are those with chronic conditions like fibromyalgia/hypermo
bility that are hidden and are in oil start pain
Right those awarded with high rate mobility and look abled bodied are those with special needs who have no sense of danger to road safety or anything. And then there are those with chronic conditions like fibromyalgia/hypermo bility that are hidden and are in oil start pain flippsie
  • Score: 15

8:02am Wed 2 Jul 14

abc100 says...

I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!! abc100
  • Score: 14

8:22am Wed 2 Jul 14

Ginny nz says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
So you know what disability this person was suffering from do you ? Just because they, or a friend of theirs drives a flash car that a physical disability would prove hard for them to enter / exit the car . Maybe they have a mental disability , similar to yours !!
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]So you know what disability this person was suffering from do you ? Just because they, or a friend of theirs drives a flash car that a physical disability would prove hard for them to enter / exit the car . Maybe they have a mental disability , similar to yours !! Ginny nz
  • Score: 13

8:26am Wed 2 Jul 14

Controversial But True says...

Surely Castlepoint's car park is more disabled than most blue badge owners!!
Surely Castlepoint's car park is more disabled than most blue badge owners!! Controversial But True
  • Score: 7

8:27am Wed 2 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

There are people who have been awarded a blue badge . The driver of the car may well be a fit enough person and appears non disabled, but the passenger who is being given a lift may well be disabled.Not every disabled person has to hop on one foot, they may have other illness that do not show.!! Hope the boxes that are used are nailed down and locked !!
There are people who have been awarded a blue badge . The driver of the car may well be a fit enough person and appears non disabled, but the passenger who is being given a lift may well be disabled.Not every disabled person has to hop on one foot, they may have other illness that do not show.!! Hope the boxes that are used are nailed down and locked !! bosco1
  • Score: 24

8:47am Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for.

You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.

I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for. You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge. I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear. Carolyn43
  • Score: 57

8:59am Wed 2 Jul 14

Ms daisy says...

abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
One occassion witnessed a man and woman park in disabled space at Castlepoint . Noticed them in Argos then about an hour later shopping in Sainsburysl holding an Argos and M&S bag I couldnt help thinking to myself did they really need to park in the disabled bay when others may have need it more.
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]One occassion witnessed a man and woman park in disabled space at Castlepoint . Noticed them in Argos then about an hour later shopping in Sainsburysl holding an Argos and M&S bag I couldnt help thinking to myself did they really need to park in the disabled bay when others may have need it more. Ms daisy
  • Score: 5

9:07am Wed 2 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

I understand the theory behind an amnesty, it has worked very well when gun amnesties have been done, old guns and knifes being handed in, bought before the laws against them came into force, but a Blue Badge Amnesty?
People that abuse them know full well what they're doing and obviously benefit from their use so why are they going to freely give that up?
I understand the theory behind an amnesty, it has worked very well when gun amnesties have been done, old guns and knifes being handed in, bought before the laws against them came into force, but a Blue Badge Amnesty? People that abuse them know full well what they're doing and obviously benefit from their use so why are they going to freely give that up? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 13

9:09am Wed 2 Jul 14

afcbtintin says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for.

You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.

I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.
Carolyn, you beat me to it !

The other thing that concerns me is the attitude that abc100 seems to portray and that is one of "us & them". As a disabled person I am not a "them" I am a human being that happens to have trouble walking and using one arm.

However, thanks to adaptions I "never seem to stop driving" (to paraphrase abc100)

And as far as the comments regarding a soft top Ferrari, with hand controls and a hoist to get me in I could drive one although I do understand the suspicions of people when they see this sort of thing.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for. You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge. I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.[/p][/quote]Carolyn, you beat me to it ! The other thing that concerns me is the attitude that abc100 seems to portray and that is one of "us & them". As a disabled person I am not a "them" I am a human being that happens to have trouble walking and using one arm. However, thanks to adaptions I "never seem to stop driving" (to paraphrase abc100) And as far as the comments regarding a soft top Ferrari, with hand controls and a hoist to get me in I could drive one although I do understand the suspicions of people when they see this sort of thing. afcbtintin
  • Score: 14

9:17am Wed 2 Jul 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

I hope Cllr Phillips has read this.How can we forget how she parked in a disabled bay at Castlepoint and then told the operator who she was ! We do have long memories.
I hope Cllr Phillips has read this.How can we forget how she parked in a disabled bay at Castlepoint and then told the operator who she was ! We do have long memories. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 25

9:19am Wed 2 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Perhaps if there were more, and cheaper, parking spaces in the area, people would be less inclined to use them illegally? What is more disturbing is that the penalties for using one illicitly is actually far higher than have been handed out recently by the likes of Wiggo to people guilty of far worse crimes!
Perhaps if there were more, and cheaper, parking spaces in the area, people would be less inclined to use them illegally? What is more disturbing is that the penalties for using one illicitly is actually far higher than have been handed out recently by the likes of Wiggo to people guilty of far worse crimes! speedy231278
  • Score: 1

9:29am Wed 2 Jul 14

Paul Weaver says...

abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop?

Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop? Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving. Paul Weaver
  • Score: 11

9:32am Wed 2 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect.
However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system.

I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query.

Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.
I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect. However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system. I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query. Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park. TheDistrict
  • Score: 4

9:39am Wed 2 Jul 14

we-shall-see says...

I hope the box for collecting the badges is secure ...... or they may find some being taken out and used illegally ....... just sayin' ;o)
I hope the box for collecting the badges is secure ...... or they may find some being taken out and used illegally ....... just sayin' ;o) we-shall-see
  • Score: 4

9:39am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Baysider wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
Yes and that never gets abused does it......
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.[/p][/quote]Yes and that never gets abused does it...... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 6

9:40am Wed 2 Jul 14

Old Colonial says...

The biggest mistake was in making the logo for disability a picture of a wheelchair. This has allowed the ignorant and the stupid to equate disability solely with wheelchair users.
The biggest mistake was in making the logo for disability a picture of a wheelchair. This has allowed the ignorant and the stupid to equate disability solely with wheelchair users. Old Colonial
  • Score: 23

9:42am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
Only genuinely disabled people get them???

Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit......
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]Only genuinely disabled people get them??? Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit...... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 7

9:43am Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

ben111 wrote:
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
Good for you. Wish there were more who express the same sentiment. I would love to be able to park further away and get more exercise. I don't want to have a blue badge. If I didn't have it, it would mean I was fit and healthy, and any one who doesn't want to be doesn't appreciate their well-being.

If I didn't have a car I'd be housebound. I try to stay independent and do my own shopping, using a trolley as a walking frame in a small supermarket. I avoid the supermarkets which are the size of aircraft hangars - if it's possible to get round them, it's too painful. If I really need to walk more than a few yards, for instance from Sainsburys in Poole as far as Barclays Bank, I need to be having a good day and use crutches to slowly go there. I also have to go on a dry day, because I need to sit on the seats outside the Nationwide to break the walk. Even then I have to rest before going back to Sainsburys, again stopping outside the Nationwide. I'm completely exhausted by the time I get back to my car. But just looking at me, you'd think there was nothing wrong.

Jealous of my blue badge? Utterly ridiculous as you have no idea what it's like to still be mentally alert, but not have the physical ability to go with it.
[quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.[/p][/quote]Good for you. Wish there were more who express the same sentiment. I would love to be able to park further away and get more exercise. I don't want to have a blue badge. If I didn't have it, it would mean I was fit and healthy, and any one who doesn't want to be doesn't appreciate their well-being. If I didn't have a car I'd be housebound. I try to stay independent and do my own shopping, using a trolley as a walking frame in a small supermarket. I avoid the supermarkets which are the size of aircraft hangars - if it's possible to get round them, it's too painful. If I really need to walk more than a few yards, for instance from Sainsburys in Poole as far as Barclays Bank, I need to be having a good day and use crutches to slowly go there. I also have to go on a dry day, because I need to sit on the seats outside the Nationwide to break the walk. Even then I have to rest before going back to Sainsburys, again stopping outside the Nationwide. I'm completely exhausted by the time I get back to my car. But just looking at me, you'd think there was nothing wrong. Jealous of my blue badge? Utterly ridiculous as you have no idea what it's like to still be mentally alert, but not have the physical ability to go with it. Carolyn43
  • Score: 19

9:46am Wed 2 Jul 14

Lord Spring says...

S,Bowes wrote:
Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?
You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.
[quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?[/p][/quote]You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done. Lord Spring
  • Score: 6

9:47am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

ben111 wrote:
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge?
[quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.[/p][/quote]So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge? scrumpyjack
  • Score: -1

9:47am Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
Only genuinely disabled people get them???

Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit......
If you don't get mobility allowance, for which you may need a medical if you don't have a recognised condition currently being treated, you have to be certified as needing one by your GP.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]Only genuinely disabled people get them??? Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit......[/p][/quote]If you don't get mobility allowance, for which you may need a medical if you don't have a recognised condition currently being treated, you have to be certified as needing one by your GP. Carolyn43
  • Score: 6

9:55am Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
ben111 wrote:
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge?
Do you have evidence of just how widespread it is? Do you know the design of the current blue badge which is designed to be almost impossible to forge? Do you know when the new design was introduced. Do you know how long a blue badge is valid for? Do you know when the old style badge will no longer be valid?

I suspect the answer to all of those is no.

Just to educate you, the new design came into effect in January 2012, they are valid for 3 years, the old style will become invalid in January 2015.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.[/p][/quote]So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge?[/p][/quote]Do you have evidence of just how widespread it is? Do you know the design of the current blue badge which is designed to be almost impossible to forge? Do you know when the new design was introduced. Do you know how long a blue badge is valid for? Do you know when the old style badge will no longer be valid? I suspect the answer to all of those is no. Just to educate you, the new design came into effect in January 2012, they are valid for 3 years, the old style will become invalid in January 2015. Carolyn43
  • Score: 6

10:12am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for.

You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.

I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.
You say 'You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.'

Hmmm there are people who have climbed mountains with no legs. People who have run marathons with no legs....

I am not knocking the blue badge system, I do however question the fragility of it to abuse and the seeming low level policing of it.

If someone genuinely needs one they should have one.

I just wish it was as actively checked as cars parking illegally without one.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for. You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge. I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.[/p][/quote]You say 'You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.' Hmmm there are people who have climbed mountains with no legs. People who have run marathons with no legs.... I am not knocking the blue badge system, I do however question the fragility of it to abuse and the seeming low level policing of it. If someone genuinely needs one they should have one. I just wish it was as actively checked as cars parking illegally without one. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

10:17am Wed 2 Jul 14

mook140780 says...

why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest. mook140780
  • Score: 3

10:29am Wed 2 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

A few weeks ago I witnessed a vehicle that was parked in a parking bay for the disabled getting a ticket. The vehicle was photographed and the ticket placed on the windscreen. I was curious so looked more closely once the parking attendant had done his work there. The vehicle had no no blue badge on display. The £100 fine was fully justified and there appeared to be no excuse for whoever had decided to park there. This was at Castle point.
A few weeks ago I witnessed a vehicle that was parked in a parking bay for the disabled getting a ticket. The vehicle was photographed and the ticket placed on the windscreen. I was curious so looked more closely once the parking attendant had done his work there. The vehicle had no no blue badge on display. The £100 fine was fully justified and there appeared to be no excuse for whoever had decided to park there. This was at Castle point. folkprotector
  • Score: 7

10:35am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Old Colonial wrote:
The biggest mistake was in making the logo for disability a picture of a wheelchair. This has allowed the ignorant and the stupid to equate disability solely with wheelchair users.
I think the one that gets people (probably the only one in reality) is the person who has become obese and therefore qualifies under the 'walks slowly' criteria.

The only other nay sayings are solely aimed at the non-disabled abusing the system. I would love to see this heavily and regularly policed with huge fines (thousands of pounds) - for the benefit of disabled and able bodied alike.
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: The biggest mistake was in making the logo for disability a picture of a wheelchair. This has allowed the ignorant and the stupid to equate disability solely with wheelchair users.[/p][/quote]I think the one that gets people (probably the only one in reality) is the person who has become obese and therefore qualifies under the 'walks slowly' criteria. The only other nay sayings are solely aimed at the non-disabled abusing the system. I would love to see this heavily and regularly policed with huge fines (thousands of pounds) - for the benefit of disabled and able bodied alike. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

10:36am Wed 2 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Spot on! If the occupant of the vehicle has proved their entitlement to a blue badge to the satisfaction of Poole Council when they applied the type of vehicle is totally irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Spot on! If the occupant of the vehicle has proved their entitlement to a blue badge to the satisfaction of Poole Council when they applied the type of vehicle is totally irrelevant. folkprotector
  • Score: 4

10:36am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Lord Spring wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?
You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.
Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?[/p][/quote]You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.[/p][/quote]Agreed. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

10:40am Wed 2 Jul 14

djd says...

mook140780 wrote:
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
There is a review process every four years and if you're dead you can't apply for a renewal of your blue badge.
I know people may look physically fit, but if they've been awarded a blue badge it's because they need it. Some of you on this post have really excellent medical qualifications as you seem to be able to diagnose a disability from your computer keyboard.
The answer is simple, if you want the blue badge, first you have to have the disability.
As for people using badges awarded to relatives now deceased, they just make it more difficult for the genuine users, apart from the fact they commit a criminal offence. It's all in the book supplied with the badge. If you don't know, you haven't read the book
[quote][p][bold]mook140780[/bold] wrote: why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.[/p][/quote]There is a review process every four years and if you're dead you can't apply for a renewal of your blue badge. I know people may look physically fit, but if they've been awarded a blue badge it's because they need it. Some of you on this post have really excellent medical qualifications as you seem to be able to diagnose a disability from your computer keyboard. The answer is simple, if you want the blue badge, first you have to have the disability. As for people using badges awarded to relatives now deceased, they just make it more difficult for the genuine users, apart from the fact they commit a criminal offence. It's all in the book supplied with the badge. If you don't know, you haven't read the book djd
  • Score: 8

10:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

misplacedspaniard says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
And the elderly
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]And the elderly misplacedspaniard
  • Score: -3

10:51am Wed 2 Jul 14

misplacedspaniard says...

My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society. misplacedspaniard
  • Score: 6

10:54am Wed 2 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

If it works then fine but I really can't see that it will.

Misuse of a Blue Badge is not a civil matter, it's actually called FRAUD which is a criminal matter with the possibility of imprisonment.

If that threat of imprisonment is not enough to deter the misuse then I can't see that an amnesty for handing in Blue Badges will work when the simple application of a pair of scissors will do the job just as easily,
If it works then fine but I really can't see that it will. Misuse of a Blue Badge is not a civil matter, it's actually called FRAUD which is a criminal matter with the possibility of imprisonment. If that threat of imprisonment is not enough to deter the misuse then I can't see that an amnesty for handing in Blue Badges will work when the simple application of a pair of scissors will do the job just as easily, BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 2

10:55am Wed 2 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Baysider wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
Yes and that never gets abused does it......
If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.[/p][/quote]Yes and that never gets abused does it......[/p][/quote]If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience. Hessenford
  • Score: 0

10:56am Wed 2 Jul 14

we-shall-see says...

mook140780 wrote:
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
Each blue badge only lasts for a period of maximum three years - after which time you have to re-apply and send in documentary proof of your disability in order to get a new one issued.

I am one of those who "looks fine", yet I suffer the crippling condition Multiple Sclerosis which severely limits how long I can stand or walk and also have a genetic heart problem, which makes me breathless on exertion - so my blue badge is fully justified, yet I have several times been abused by people who think I don't LOOK disabled.

Some people seem to think blue badges are handed out like sweeties, yet I have had to produce documents from my hospital consultant, GP and physio-therapist in order to get one - so believe me, more often than not if someone has a blue badge, it's because they have shown proof of needing one. It's not just a case of walk in to the council offices and demand one :o/
[quote][p][bold]mook140780[/bold] wrote: why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.[/p][/quote]Each blue badge only lasts for a period of maximum three years - after which time you have to re-apply and send in documentary proof of your disability in order to get a new one issued. I am one of those who "looks fine", yet I suffer the crippling condition Multiple Sclerosis which severely limits how long I can stand or walk and also have a genetic heart problem, which makes me breathless on exertion - so my blue badge is fully justified, yet I have several times been abused by people who think I don't LOOK disabled. Some people seem to think blue badges are handed out like sweeties, yet I have had to produce documents from my hospital consultant, GP and physio-therapist in order to get one - so believe me, more often than not if someone has a blue badge, it's because they have shown proof of needing one. It's not just a case of walk in to the council offices and demand one :o/ we-shall-see
  • Score: 8

10:57am Wed 2 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

There is abuse of the Blue badge system, there was when it was an orange badge but this is probably because no one does anything about the abuse. I have been disabled for 30 years and don't think anyone has ever asked to check my badge to see if it was valid or not in all that time i've had one.

It's actually nice to see the council are trying to do something about it for a change.
There is abuse of the Blue badge system, there was when it was an orange badge but this is probably because no one does anything about the abuse. I have been disabled for 30 years and don't think anyone has ever asked to check my badge to see if it was valid or not in all that time i've had one. It's actually nice to see the council are trying to do something about it for a change. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 1

11:01am Wed 2 Jul 14

ben111 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
ben111 wrote:
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge?
I totaly agree , I would not do such a thing , And i would not pander to a comic such as the echo to argue with people over a matter that is ilegal and is not my position to police. But shame on the people that do abuse this system as they think they are clever, but really just lazy and some cases FAT or both.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.[/p][/quote]So, if you had a relative with one and you abused it for you to use without them, or if you exaggerated a condition to your GP to get one (or just to become eligible for benefits/be signed off sick), or you had bought one off someone who no longer needed it I should not complain but 'rethink' my negative reaction to this wide spread abuse of the blue badge?[/p][/quote]I totaly agree , I would not do such a thing , And i would not pander to a comic such as the echo to argue with people over a matter that is ilegal and is not my position to police. But shame on the people that do abuse this system as they think they are clever, but really just lazy and some cases FAT or both. ben111
  • Score: 2

11:11am Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
I think you'll find that if she is regularly supervised by the hospital for fibromyalgia, she is able to apply for a blue badge ad possibly whatever has replace disability living allowance. The same applies to your nephew. I have severe rheumatoid arthritis and attend the hospital clinic every 4 to 6 months and have been since 1992. If she and your nephew need to apply for what was disability living allowance, they should get help from a social worker to fill in the forms. Most who apply and don't get it don't get advice on filling in these forms, which are quite complicated. I was told by the hospital to apply and had help from them in filling in mine.

As for the elderly getting blue badges, age isn't the reason they have one, neither is obesity (although they might be obese due to a medical condition). Over 65's have to apply for attendance allowance which does not include mobility allowance, for which the criteria are far more strict than for those of working age. You don't get anything for being old.

Blue badges have to be reapplied for every 3 years - they're not renewed automatically and you have to fill in the same forms as a new applicant, and they either ask your GP for a letter or evidence of mobility allowance. I got my new one in April, and it's valid until April 2017, when I will have to reapply if I'm still alive and still qualify for one.
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that if she is regularly supervised by the hospital for fibromyalgia, she is able to apply for a blue badge ad possibly whatever has replace disability living allowance. The same applies to your nephew. I have severe rheumatoid arthritis and attend the hospital clinic every 4 to 6 months and have been since 1992. If she and your nephew need to apply for what was disability living allowance, they should get help from a social worker to fill in the forms. Most who apply and don't get it don't get advice on filling in these forms, which are quite complicated. I was told by the hospital to apply and had help from them in filling in mine. As for the elderly getting blue badges, age isn't the reason they have one, neither is obesity (although they might be obese due to a medical condition). Over 65's have to apply for attendance allowance which does not include mobility allowance, for which the criteria are far more strict than for those of working age. You don't get anything for being old. Blue badges have to be reapplied for every 3 years - they're not renewed automatically and you have to fill in the same forms as a new applicant, and they either ask your GP for a letter or evidence of mobility allowance. I got my new one in April, and it's valid until April 2017, when I will have to reapply if I'm still alive and still qualify for one. Carolyn43
  • Score: 3

11:15am Wed 2 Jul 14

mook140780 says...

At no point did i say i had any medical knoweledge, there are indeed people out there who look physically fit but may be disabled in another way. The process to obtain this blue badges is obviously flawed as the system is abused and therefore it needs an overhaul. I am not saying that everyone should have their badges removed. I'm not jealous of people with these badges as if they have a disabilty then yes they should be entitled but people abusing it are taking spaces which genuine users could use.. While we're talking about abuse of systems what about parent and child spaces where half the people i see using these have no children or children seats in them.
At no point did i say i had any medical knoweledge, there are indeed people out there who look physically fit but may be disabled in another way. The process to obtain this blue badges is obviously flawed as the system is abused and therefore it needs an overhaul. I am not saying that everyone should have their badges removed. I'm not jealous of people with these badges as if they have a disabilty then yes they should be entitled but people abusing it are taking spaces which genuine users could use.. While we're talking about abuse of systems what about parent and child spaces where half the people i see using these have no children or children seats in them. mook140780
  • Score: 3

11:31am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
Only genuinely disabled people get them???

Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit......
If you don't get mobility allowance, for which you may need a medical if you don't have a recognised condition currently being treated, you have to be certified as needing one by your GP.
No you don't - your GP does not do the assessment any more.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]Only genuinely disabled people get them??? Yes, and only genuinely disabled people get disability and sickness benefit......[/p][/quote]If you don't get mobility allowance, for which you may need a medical if you don't have a recognised condition currently being treated, you have to be certified as needing one by your GP.[/p][/quote]No you don't - your GP does not do the assessment any more. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

11:37am Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Baysider wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
Yes and that never gets abused does it......
If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.
The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.[/p][/quote]Yes and that never gets abused does it......[/p][/quote]If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.[/p][/quote]The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

11:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

oldgiraffe says...

Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.
Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way. oldgiraffe
  • Score: 6

12:08pm Wed 2 Jul 14

retry69 says...

Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
As someone pointed out yesterday usually when someone resorts to name calling in a comment there is usually a hidden agenda,is it perhaps you cannot afford cigarettes ?
[quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]As someone pointed out yesterday usually when someone resorts to name calling in a comment there is usually a hidden agenda,is it perhaps you cannot afford cigarettes ? retry69
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Wed 2 Jul 14

abc100 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for.

You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge.

I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.
My prejudice, how so? I said that I see plenty of blue badge holders have no problems walking around the shops for hours on end, I also said that many disabled people have lots of things it stops them doing but driving is rarely one of them, please explain how that makes me prejudice
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]I'm a blue badge holder and I'm not a disabled driver. I can drive very well - I'm fine sitting in the car and operating the pedals. It's when I stand up and try walking that I have a problem. I'm not a disabled driver - I'm a disabled walker. That's what a blue badge is for. You are also disabled if you have an artificial foot. You might be able to walk OK with it, but you're still disabled and qualify for a blue badge. I'll willingly give my blue badge to anyone who is jealous of me having one, as so many seem to be. The only condition is that you take my disability and I take your ability. We'd soon see your prejudice disappear.[/p][/quote]My prejudice, how so? I said that I see plenty of blue badge holders have no problems walking around the shops for hours on end, I also said that many disabled people have lots of things it stops them doing but driving is rarely one of them, please explain how that makes me prejudice abc100
  • Score: -2

12:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

madras says...

yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Sounds more like jealousy to me? Why shouldn't a disabled person drive a sports car? OK, not for me (large family estate) but I am disabled, use a wheelchair, have a blue badge and quite possibly if I had the money and personal circumstances were different I might buy a sports car. You cannot judge by the car someone drives ...

... unless, of course, it's an Audi - they're all ****!
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Sounds more like jealousy to me? Why shouldn't a disabled person drive a sports car? OK, not for me (large family estate) but I am disabled, use a wheelchair, have a blue badge and quite possibly if I had the money and personal circumstances were different I might buy a sports car. You cannot judge by the car someone drives ... ... unless, of course, it's an Audi - they're all ****! madras
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Wed 2 Jul 14

annabell2013 says...

One of the reasons for some blue badge holders needing to park in a disabled space is that they need to open the doors wide to get in and out - which is why the spaces are so wide. It is impossible for some disabled people to get out of the car otherwise.
One of the reasons for some blue badge holders needing to park in a disabled space is that they need to open the doors wide to get in and out - which is why the spaces are so wide. It is impossible for some disabled people to get out of the car otherwise. annabell2013
  • Score: 10

12:30pm Wed 2 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Baysider wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
Yes and that never gets abused does it......
If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.
The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.
scrumpyjack says... The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.

Misuse of a Blue Badge is NOT a maximum fine of £1,000.

Misuse of a Blue Badge can result in:
The offender being arrested for FRAUD
The serving of a period of IMPRISONMENT plus a FINE
Getting a CRIMINAL RECORD which will severely impact your life, employment prospects, borrowing money, taking out insurance and a myriad of other things.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.[/p][/quote]Yes and that never gets abused does it......[/p][/quote]If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.[/p][/quote]The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.[/p][/quote]scrumpyjack says... The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience. Misuse of a Blue Badge is NOT a maximum fine of £1,000. Misuse of a Blue Badge can result in: The offender being arrested for FRAUD The serving of a period of IMPRISONMENT plus a FINE Getting a CRIMINAL RECORD which will severely impact your life, employment prospects, borrowing money, taking out insurance and a myriad of other things. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: -1

12:47pm Wed 2 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Lord Spring wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?
You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.
Thank you young man should l join the debate about Italian sports cars .I'd always go for the British built Aston Martian ,bigger boot for the wheels
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?[/p][/quote]You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you young man should l join the debate about Italian sports cars .I'd always go for the British built Aston Martian ,bigger boot for the wheels kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

12:47pm Wed 2 Jul 14

podgie says...

Here is an undisputed fact of life and I promise without exception you will find it to be true.
Everyone who illegally parks in a disabled bay,or deliberately misuses a blue badge is an out and out low life ,brain dead,revolting specimen of the human race.They tend to have thought process of an amoeba and in my book come somewhere lower than Whale shyte in the evolutionary scale of things.
Here is an undisputed fact of life and I promise without exception you will find it to be true. Everyone who illegally parks in a disabled bay,or deliberately misuses a blue badge is an out and out low life ,brain dead,revolting specimen of the human race.They tend to have thought process of an amoeba and in my book come somewhere lower than Whale shyte in the evolutionary scale of things. podgie
  • Score: 5

1:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ben111 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
ben111 wrote:
Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.
Good for you. Wish there were more who express the same sentiment. I would love to be able to park further away and get more exercise. I don't want to have a blue badge. If I didn't have it, it would mean I was fit and healthy, and any one who doesn't want to be doesn't appreciate their well-being.

If I didn't have a car I'd be housebound. I try to stay independent and do my own shopping, using a trolley as a walking frame in a small supermarket. I avoid the supermarkets which are the size of aircraft hangars - if it's possible to get round them, it's too painful. If I really need to walk more than a few yards, for instance from Sainsburys in Poole as far as Barclays Bank, I need to be having a good day and use crutches to slowly go there. I also have to go on a dry day, because I need to sit on the seats outside the Nationwide to break the walk. Even then I have to rest before going back to Sainsburys, again stopping outside the Nationwide. I'm completely exhausted by the time I get back to my car. But just looking at me, you'd think there was nothing wrong.

Jealous of my blue badge? Utterly ridiculous as you have no idea what it's like to still be mentally alert, but not have the physical ability to go with it.
Bit harsh what i mean is if more abled bodied people left more spaces for people hwo require to be closer to the shops and parked further away we would all be better off .
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: Any able bodied person who does complain about people abusing blue badge holders, needs to rethink as I tend to park further away from the shops in a car park as my legs work and the extra bit of exercise I don’t think will hurt, call me crazy.[/p][/quote]Good for you. Wish there were more who express the same sentiment. I would love to be able to park further away and get more exercise. I don't want to have a blue badge. If I didn't have it, it would mean I was fit and healthy, and any one who doesn't want to be doesn't appreciate their well-being. If I didn't have a car I'd be housebound. I try to stay independent and do my own shopping, using a trolley as a walking frame in a small supermarket. I avoid the supermarkets which are the size of aircraft hangars - if it's possible to get round them, it's too painful. If I really need to walk more than a few yards, for instance from Sainsburys in Poole as far as Barclays Bank, I need to be having a good day and use crutches to slowly go there. I also have to go on a dry day, because I need to sit on the seats outside the Nationwide to break the walk. Even then I have to rest before going back to Sainsburys, again stopping outside the Nationwide. I'm completely exhausted by the time I get back to my car. But just looking at me, you'd think there was nothing wrong. Jealous of my blue badge? Utterly ridiculous as you have no idea what it's like to still be mentally alert, but not have the physical ability to go with it.[/p][/quote]Bit harsh what i mean is if more abled bodied people left more spaces for people hwo require to be closer to the shops and parked further away we would all be better off . ben111
  • Score: 3

1:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

BigAlfromsunnyBourne
mouth
wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Baysider wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.
Yes and that never gets abused does it......
If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.
The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.
scrumpyjack says... The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.

Misuse of a Blue Badge is NOT a maximum fine of £1,000.

Misuse of a Blue Badge can result in:
The offender being arrested for FRAUD
The serving of a period of IMPRISONMENT plus a FINE
Getting a CRIMINAL RECORD which will severely impact your life, employment prospects, borrowing money, taking out insurance and a myriad of other things.
Somerset Council:

If an able-bodied person uses the badge and the holder has allowed this use, their badge will be immediately withdrawn. It is a criminal offence for an able-bodied person to use a badge. If they do so, they are liable to a fine of up to £1,000.


Wiltshire Council:

Misuse of a Blue Badge

A Blue Badge can be taken away if you misuse it. You are responsible for the badge and must not allow anyone else to use it. You must not use photocopies of the badge and must be a passenger or driver of the vehicle at all times when the badge is displayed. Continuing to use your badge if your disability improves so that you are no longer eligible for the scheme, is also considered missue, please contact us on 01225 713002 if you would like to discuss improvements to your condition.

The maximum penalty for misuse of the badge is a fine of £1000.

To report misuse of a Blue Badge please contact us on 01225 713002.


Brighton & Hove Council:

Blue Badge fraud & misuse

Under the terms of the Blue Badge scheme, a Blue Badge can only be used in a vehicle when it is being used to transport the Blue Badge holder. Under no circumstances should someone other than the badge holder be claiming the Blue Badge concessions. Therefore, they must never give the badge to anyone else to use if the badge holder does no intend to travel, even if they are a friend or family member. This includes friends or relatives collecting items such as prescriptions on the badge holders behalf.

Misuse of the badge by someone who is not disabled is an offence under section 117 of the Road Traffic Act 1984. The maximum fine on conviction is £1,000. This applies in addition to whatever penalty may be imposed for any parking offence.

We are working closely with Sussex Police and NSL to tackle Blue Badge fraud & misuse in the city. If you suspect someone is abusing the Blue Badge scheme please report it to us today.
[quote][p][bold]BigAlfromsunnyBourne mouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Or maybe the driver was taking his elderly parent out for lunch. People forget it's the person who gets the badge not the car.[/p][/quote]Yes and that never gets abused does it......[/p][/quote]If you can afford to own and drive a Ferrari fines and tickets are just an inconvenience.[/p][/quote]The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience.[/p][/quote]scrumpyjack says... The maximum fine is £1,000 actually start giving these out and flag the number plate as one that needs checking if seen and it would soon start to be more than just an inconvenience. Misuse of a Blue Badge is NOT a maximum fine of £1,000. Misuse of a Blue Badge can result in: The offender being arrested for FRAUD The serving of a period of IMPRISONMENT plus a FINE Getting a CRIMINAL RECORD which will severely impact your life, employment prospects, borrowing money, taking out insurance and a myriad of other things.[/p][/quote]Somerset Council: If an able-bodied person uses the badge and the holder has allowed this use, their badge will be immediately withdrawn. It is a criminal offence for an able-bodied person to use a badge. If they do so, they are liable to a fine of up to £1,000. Wiltshire Council: Misuse of a Blue Badge A Blue Badge can be taken away if you misuse it. You are responsible for the badge and must not allow anyone else to use it. You must not use photocopies of the badge and must be a passenger or driver of the vehicle at all times when the badge is displayed. Continuing to use your badge if your disability improves so that you are no longer eligible for the scheme, is also considered missue, please contact us on 01225 713002 if you would like to discuss improvements to your condition. The maximum penalty for misuse of the badge is a fine of £1000. To report misuse of a Blue Badge please contact us on 01225 713002. Brighton & Hove Council: Blue Badge fraud & misuse Under the terms of the Blue Badge scheme, a Blue Badge can only be used in a vehicle when it is being used to transport the Blue Badge holder. Under no circumstances should someone other than the badge holder be claiming the Blue Badge concessions. Therefore, they must never give the badge to anyone else to use if the badge holder does no intend to travel, even if they are a friend or family member. This includes friends or relatives collecting items such as prescriptions on the badge holders behalf. Misuse of the badge by someone who is not disabled is an offence under section 117 of the Road Traffic Act 1984. The maximum fine on conviction is £1,000. This applies in addition to whatever penalty may be imposed for any parking offence. We are working closely with Sussex Police and NSL to tackle Blue Badge fraud & misuse in the city. If you suspect someone is abusing the Blue Badge scheme please report it to us today. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 1

1:23pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Watch em park in the disabled bay outside Bournemouth library then they're off like whippets down to M&S to do their shopping, returning uphill just as fast with bags full.
Watch em park in the disabled bay outside Bournemouth library then they're off like whippets down to M&S to do their shopping, returning uphill just as fast with bags full. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 1

1:25pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

oldgiraffe wrote:
Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.
A TINY TINY percentage is down to a medical condition.

From the NHS:

Causes of obesity

Obesity is generally caused by consuming more calories – particularly those in fatty and sugary foods – than you burn off through physical activity. The excess energy is then stored by the body as fat.

Obesity is an increasingly common problem, because many modern lifestyles often promote eating excessive amounts of cheap, high-calorie food and spending a lot of time sitting at desks, on sofas or in cars.


We all know this but it's amazing how many obese people claim to "eat nothing" and "eat really healthily". No, no you don't.

Anyone disagree? Then watch a few back episodes of Secret Eaters - they all said the same and were convinced they only ate within the recommended guidelines only then to be shown to be eating thousands and thousands of calories a day over the RDA. That is what makes you fat.
[quote][p][bold]oldgiraffe[/bold] wrote: Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.[/p][/quote]A TINY TINY percentage is down to a medical condition. From the NHS: Causes of obesity Obesity is generally caused by consuming more calories – particularly those in fatty and sugary foods – than you burn off through physical activity. The excess energy is then stored by the body as fat. Obesity is an increasingly common problem, because many modern lifestyles often promote eating excessive amounts of cheap, high-calorie food and spending a lot of time sitting at desks, on sofas or in cars. We all know this but it's amazing how many obese people claim to "eat nothing" and "eat really healthily". No, no you don't. Anyone disagree? Then watch a few back episodes of Secret Eaters - they all said the same and were convinced they only ate within the recommended guidelines only then to be shown to be eating thousands and thousands of calories a day over the RDA. That is what makes you fat. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

oldgiraffe wrote:
Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.
Also from the NHS:

There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication


The truth hurt?
[quote][p][bold]oldgiraffe[/bold] wrote: Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.[/p][/quote]Also from the NHS: There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication The truth hurt? scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

1:47pm Wed 2 Jul 14

hamworthygirl says...

abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Do you follow them round for 2 hours to make sure they are worthy of the badge then? Why cant you drive if your disabled? there are lots of people with specially adapted cars that can drive it may be there only way of getting out and about . There are however people who abuse by using the badges when the person it belongs to is not in the car they are the ones who need targeting .
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Do you follow them round for 2 hours to make sure they are worthy of the badge then? Why cant you drive if your disabled? there are lots of people with specially adapted cars that can drive it may be there only way of getting out and about . There are however people who abuse by using the badges when the person it belongs to is not in the car they are the ones who need targeting . hamworthygirl
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Buzetti says...

nosuchluck54 wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Or a case of "the green eyed monster"
Disabled folk can't drive supercars eh? Why not let us have a list of all the other things you are guessing disabled people would be unable to achieve?
Discrimination alive and well....
[quote][p][bold]nosuchluck54[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Or a case of "the green eyed monster"[/p][/quote]Disabled folk can't drive supercars eh? Why not let us have a list of all the other things you are guessing disabled people would be unable to achieve? Discrimination alive and well.... Buzetti
  • Score: 7

2:54pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Fingersonthem says...

Now to a more serious issue on a recent visit to the Percy Florence Shelley a purveyor of fine ales situated to Eastern side of the Borough of Bournemouth in the sleepy hamlet of Boscombe, I was amazed to see the amount of disabled that drank in there during the day. The misuse of the Radar Key allowing access to the disabled Toilet was prolific and blatant, a Black Market must be in operation selling these keys.
Now to a more serious issue on a recent visit to the Percy Florence Shelley a purveyor of fine ales situated to Eastern side of the Borough of Bournemouth in the sleepy hamlet of Boscombe, I was amazed to see the amount of disabled that drank in there during the day. The misuse of the Radar Key allowing access to the disabled Toilet was prolific and blatant, a Black Market must be in operation selling these keys. Fingersonthem
  • Score: 5

3:30pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ekimnoslen says...

Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next?
Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people".............
..........!
Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next? Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people"............. ..........! ekimnoslen
  • Score: -2

3:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

coster says...

Living near a council car park and beach I see many people who travel a greater distance and up a hill in order to park on yellow lines place the Blue Badge in their window and walk smartly off carrying loads of beach equipment. Actually I don't mind , as they avoid a stiff price at the car park., but I reckon the Council get P****d off.
Living near a council car park and beach I see many people who travel a greater distance and up a hill in order to park on yellow lines place the Blue Badge in their window and walk smartly off carrying loads of beach equipment. Actually I don't mind , as they avoid a stiff price at the car park., but I reckon the Council get P****d off. coster
  • Score: 4

3:51pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next?
Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people".............

..........!
What is a car park for cyclists called?

(I thought it was a bike rack but clearly I am wrong)
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next? Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people"............. ..........![/p][/quote]What is a car park for cyclists called? (I thought it was a bike rack but clearly I am wrong) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Wed 2 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next?
Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people".............

..........!
How thoughtless can some get,do you think we enjoy being in ill health and not able to get about.I am in tears sometimes,and comments from selfish people like this make things worse.
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next? Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people"............. ..........![/p][/quote]How thoughtless can some get,do you think we enjoy being in ill health and not able to get about.I am in tears sometimes,and comments from selfish people like this make things worse. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

4:11pm Wed 2 Jul 14

julie777 says...

abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
WHEN I WAS FIRST DISABLED COULD NOT DRIVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AFTER LEARNING TO ADAPT AND COPE I WAS THEN HAPPILY ABLE TO DRIVE AGAIN THOUGH NOT ABLE TO STAND OR WALK VERY MUCH.
SO DON'T RUN DOWN THE POOR DISABLED SOULS WHO ARE OCCASIONALLY ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH THE HELP OF A VEHICLE. EVERY LITTLE JAUNT PROBABLY COSTS THEM DEARLY IN PAIN OR ENERGY. OR SHOULD THEY BE LOCKED UP AND ISOLATED?
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]WHEN I WAS FIRST DISABLED COULD NOT DRIVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AFTER LEARNING TO ADAPT AND COPE I WAS THEN HAPPILY ABLE TO DRIVE AGAIN THOUGH NOT ABLE TO STAND OR WALK VERY MUCH. SO DON'T RUN DOWN THE POOR DISABLED SOULS WHO ARE OCCASIONALLY ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH THE HELP OF A VEHICLE. EVERY LITTLE JAUNT PROBABLY COSTS THEM DEARLY IN PAIN OR ENERGY. OR SHOULD THEY BE LOCKED UP AND ISOLATED? julie777
  • Score: 3

4:24pm Wed 2 Jul 14

retry69 says...

podgie wrote:
Here is an undisputed fact of life and I promise without exception you will find it to be true.
Everyone who illegally parks in a disabled bay,or deliberately misuses a blue badge is an out and out low life ,brain dead,revolting specimen of the human race.They tend to have thought process of an amoeba and in my book come somewhere lower than Whale shyte in the evolutionary scale of things.
Up the meds for a couple of days.
[quote][p][bold]podgie[/bold] wrote: Here is an undisputed fact of life and I promise without exception you will find it to be true. Everyone who illegally parks in a disabled bay,or deliberately misuses a blue badge is an out and out low life ,brain dead,revolting specimen of the human race.They tend to have thought process of an amoeba and in my book come somewhere lower than Whale shyte in the evolutionary scale of things.[/p][/quote]Up the meds for a couple of days. retry69
  • Score: -1

4:35pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jaomi4 says...

misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge. jaomi4
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jaomi4 says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise.
i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise. i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better. jaomi4
  • Score: 3

4:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

afcbtintin says...

mook140780 wrote:
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
We do have to reapply every 4(I think) years. Which for some conditions is pretty stupid.

I have progressive MS which means I can only get worse, which indeed is what is happening. Yet I have had to re apply twice in the last seven years.
[quote][p][bold]mook140780[/bold] wrote: why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.[/p][/quote]We do have to reapply every 4(I think) years. Which for some conditions is pretty stupid. I have progressive MS which means I can only get worse, which indeed is what is happening. Yet I have had to re apply twice in the last seven years. afcbtintin
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Lucky Rich says...

What a horrible lot some of you are , there are some horrible illnesses out there that are not visible to the untrained eye ,but the people that have them still need there mobility but need a bit of help to do that , as has already been said you don't have to be in a wheel chair to be classed as a badge holder ,
What a horrible lot some of you are , there are some horrible illnesses out there that are not visible to the untrained eye ,but the people that have them still need there mobility but need a bit of help to do that , as has already been said you don't have to be in a wheel chair to be classed as a badge holder , Lucky Rich
  • Score: 3

5:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next?
Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people".............

..........!
quite rightekimnoslen, it's all political correctness gone mad, you can't even buy hedgehog flavoured cucumbers, I blame Europe ...... and whilst in Europe, there used to be seats reserved on the metro for 'mutiles de guerre' what was all that about, eh ? ... one rule for one and one for the other, now don't get me started on ambulances jumping the red lights. why can't they wait like the rest of us..................
...........
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: Waste of time. I am on "ordinary" driver and I anticipate the time that there will be nowhere for me to park. We already have disabled and mother and child so what's next? Owner with pets, ethnic minorities, local councilors, cyclists (naturally), women, left handed people"............. ..........![/p][/quote]quite rightekimnoslen, it's all political correctness gone mad, you can't even buy hedgehog flavoured cucumbers, I blame Europe ...... and whilst in Europe, there used to be seats reserved on the metro for 'mutiles de guerre' what was all that about, eh ? ... one rule for one and one for the other, now don't get me started on ambulances jumping the red lights. why can't they wait like the rest of us.................. ........... Bob49
  • Score: 0

6:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Good luck to all badge owners who can no longer walk on their feet a lot
I was in the sea at Hive Beach at 6am this morning counting my blessings I am so lucky being so big and strong and healthy, thank you Jesus I love you xx
Good luck to all badge owners who can no longer walk on their feet a lot I was in the sea at Hive Beach at 6am this morning counting my blessings I am so lucky being so big and strong and healthy, thank you Jesus I love you xx nickynoodah
  • Score: 3

6:30pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
oldgiraffe wrote:
Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.
Also from the NHS:

There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication


The truth hurt?
I took steroids for over 10 years and it was decided at the beginning of the year that it would be better if I stopped them and changed to something else. I took 5 months to reduce them to nothing and guess what? In the last month I've lost 10 pounds without changing my diet? And the reason I was overweight - steroids. Now accuse me of over-eating being why I was overweight. Unless you're medically trained you know nothing about many of the reasons why people are overweight. Just what are your medical qualifications that mean you can judge people?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldgiraffe[/bold] wrote: Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.[/p][/quote]Also from the NHS: There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication The truth hurt?[/p][/quote]I took steroids for over 10 years and it was decided at the beginning of the year that it would be better if I stopped them and changed to something else. I took 5 months to reduce them to nothing and guess what? In the last month I've lost 10 pounds without changing my diet? And the reason I was overweight - steroids. Now accuse me of over-eating being why I was overweight. Unless you're medically trained you know nothing about many of the reasons why people are overweight. Just what are your medical qualifications that mean you can judge people? Carolyn43
  • Score: -1

6:56pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Northbourne says...

It really infuriates me how people can't help themselves but pass judgement.

I'm a blue badge holder in my twenties. I frequently get abuse when I park in a disabled space.

What people can see from the outside is that I am a twenty something who yes believe it or not can walk.

What people can't see from the outside is that I have had my thigh bone removed due to cancer a couple of years ago or the fact I am now fighting cancer for the second time and only have one functioning lung.

Because people cannot see this, I regularly get abused including being F'd and blinded at and called all sorts. Just what I need when I'm trying to live as normal a life as possible.

Please consider that not all disabilities are immediately apparent.
It really infuriates me how people can't help themselves but pass judgement. I'm a blue badge holder in my twenties. I frequently get abuse when I park in a disabled space. What people can see from the outside is that I am a twenty something who yes believe it or not can walk. What people can't see from the outside is that I have had my thigh bone removed due to cancer a couple of years ago or the fact I am now fighting cancer for the second time and only have one functioning lung. Because people cannot see this, I regularly get abused including being F'd and blinded at and called all sorts. Just what I need when I'm trying to live as normal a life as possible. Please consider that not all disabilities are immediately apparent. Northbourne
  • Score: 5

7:15pm Wed 2 Jul 14

johnbournemouth says...

Certainly many misguided comments on this. I really need my blue badge as after a few yards my legs 'flay' and start a severe pain -- reason ?? semi blocked arteries in my legs at age 90 so although you may see me park disabled and walk away take note I regularly have to take a sit down. It is so wrong to jump to conclusions. In spite of the privilege I NEVER park on lines as some do neither do I park to impede traffic flow as many able drivers do. Maybe some of these comments are because so many are frustrated at finding somewhere to conveniently park - that's life these days - too many cars or too many people ???? I too am unhappy about this.
Certainly many misguided comments on this. I really need my blue badge as after a few yards my legs 'flay' and start a severe pain -- reason ?? semi blocked arteries in my legs at age 90 so although you may see me park disabled and walk away take note I regularly have to take a sit down. It is so wrong to jump to conclusions. In spite of the privilege I NEVER park on lines as some do neither do I park to impede traffic flow as many able drivers do. Maybe some of these comments are because so many are frustrated at finding somewhere to conveniently park - that's life these days - too many cars or too many people ???? I too am unhappy about this. johnbournemouth
  • Score: 2

8:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
S,Bowes wrote:
Jetwasher wrote:
I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag !
Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?
You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.
Thank you young man should l join the debate about Italian sports cars .I'd always go for the British built Aston Martian ,bigger boot for the wheels
Look out, an alien is coming!!! :-)
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S,Bowes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: I know a lady that has one she claims she can't walk very far and gets very breathless so she has to have a air bottle in the back of the car . BUT she smokes like a train the old hag ![/p][/quote]Have you checked the lady is not on fire ?[/p][/quote]You have not taken long to get into the spirit of things well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you young man should l join the debate about Italian sports cars .I'd always go for the British built Aston Martian ,bigger boot for the wheels[/p][/quote]Look out, an alien is coming!!! :-) breamoreboy
  • Score: -2

8:15pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Lucky Rich wrote:
What a horrible lot some of you are , there are some horrible illnesses out there that are not visible to the untrained eye ,but the people that have them still need there mobility but need a bit of help to do that , as has already been said you don't have to be in a wheel chair to be classed as a badge holder ,
I think you'll find there has been very little, if any, negative comment about people who have an unavoidable disability.
[quote][p][bold]Lucky Rich[/bold] wrote: What a horrible lot some of you are , there are some horrible illnesses out there that are not visible to the untrained eye ,but the people that have them still need there mobility but need a bit of help to do that , as has already been said you don't have to be in a wheel chair to be classed as a badge holder ,[/p][/quote]I think you'll find there has been very little, if any, negative comment about people who have an unavoidable disability. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

8:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
oldgiraffe wrote:
Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.
Also from the NHS:

There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication


The truth hurt?
I took steroids for over 10 years and it was decided at the beginning of the year that it would be better if I stopped them and changed to something else. I took 5 months to reduce them to nothing and guess what? In the last month I've lost 10 pounds without changing my diet? And the reason I was overweight - steroids. Now accuse me of over-eating being why I was overweight. Unless you're medically trained you know nothing about many of the reasons why people are overweight. Just what are your medical qualifications that mean you can judge people?
I refer you to the NHS as I simply quoted them.

But would ask in your lifetime how many people have you met (not via your condition) who have been in the same boat? You know friends and family.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldgiraffe[/bold] wrote: Don't lable all people who are overweight as FAT & LAZY. Some medical conditions are treated with steroids which despite a good diet cause an increase in weight. Their underlying phisical disability may mean also that tough excersise is impossible so cannot work off the weight that way.[/p][/quote]Also from the NHS: There are also some underlying health conditions that can OCCASIONALLY contribute to weight gain, such as an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism), although conditions such as this DON'T USUALLY cause weight problems if they are effectively controlled with medication The truth hurt?[/p][/quote]I took steroids for over 10 years and it was decided at the beginning of the year that it would be better if I stopped them and changed to something else. I took 5 months to reduce them to nothing and guess what? In the last month I've lost 10 pounds without changing my diet? And the reason I was overweight - steroids. Now accuse me of over-eating being why I was overweight. Unless you're medically trained you know nothing about many of the reasons why people are overweight. Just what are your medical qualifications that mean you can judge people?[/p][/quote]I refer you to the NHS as I simply quoted them. But would ask in your lifetime how many people have you met (not via your condition) who have been in the same boat? You know friends and family. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

9:35pm Wed 2 Jul 14

yet_another_one says...

jaomi4 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise.
i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.
OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most.
I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities.
I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise?
The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money.
I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.
[quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise. i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.[/p][/quote]OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most. I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities. I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise? The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money. I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum. yet_another_one
  • Score: 3

9:38pm Wed 2 Jul 14

retry69 says...

yet_another_one wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise.
i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.
OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most.
I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities.
I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise?
The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money.
I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.
No misunderstanding,you are bitter and twisted because you have no Ferrari,we all understand no need to explain but just leave it and face the facts and just smile :)
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise. i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.[/p][/quote]OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most. I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities. I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise? The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money. I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.[/p][/quote]No misunderstanding,you are bitter and twisted because you have no Ferrari,we all understand no need to explain but just leave it and face the facts and just smile :) retry69
  • Score: -3

9:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

S,Bowes says...

So in summary if you have a blue badge don't walk to the shops ,shop at M&S walk to the beach if it involves any sort of gradient find a beach at the top of a hill.allow anyone drive you around,don't put on weight even if only to blend in with the rest ,smoke even if you spontaneously combust and a definite no no don't drive an Italian sports car but a British built Aston Martian is acceptable
So in summary if you have a blue badge don't walk to the shops ,shop at M&S walk to the beach if it involves any sort of gradient find a beach at the top of a hill.allow anyone drive you around,don't put on weight even if only to blend in with the rest ,smoke even if you spontaneously combust and a definite no no don't drive an Italian sports car but a British built Aston Martian is acceptable S,Bowes
  • Score: 3

9:48pm Wed 2 Jul 14

yet_another_one says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
You are ignorant and narrow minded!
Ummmm - what a c**p comment, please read between the lines.
You are totally ignorant & narrow minded, not me.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]You are ignorant and narrow minded![/p][/quote]Ummmm - what a c**p comment, please read between the lines. You are totally ignorant & narrow minded, not me. yet_another_one
  • Score: -2

10:06pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

johnbournemouth wrote:
Certainly many misguided comments on this. I really need my blue badge as after a few yards my legs 'flay' and start a severe pain -- reason ?? semi blocked arteries in my legs at age 90 so although you may see me park disabled and walk away take note I regularly have to take a sit down. It is so wrong to jump to conclusions. In spite of the privilege I NEVER park on lines as some do neither do I park to impede traffic flow as many able drivers do. Maybe some of these comments are because so many are frustrated at finding somewhere to conveniently park - that's life these days - too many cars or too many people ???? I too am unhappy about this.
John, if I may, I would say at 90 and with your condition I doubt many begrudge you having a blue badge, Quite the opposite.
[quote][p][bold]johnbournemouth[/bold] wrote: Certainly many misguided comments on this. I really need my blue badge as after a few yards my legs 'flay' and start a severe pain -- reason ?? semi blocked arteries in my legs at age 90 so although you may see me park disabled and walk away take note I regularly have to take a sit down. It is so wrong to jump to conclusions. In spite of the privilege I NEVER park on lines as some do neither do I park to impede traffic flow as many able drivers do. Maybe some of these comments are because so many are frustrated at finding somewhere to conveniently park - that's life these days - too many cars or too many people ???? I too am unhappy about this.[/p][/quote]John, if I may, I would say at 90 and with your condition I doubt many begrudge you having a blue badge, Quite the opposite. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

10:51pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
[quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge! Wackerone
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Rally says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect.
However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system.

I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query.

Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.
This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance.
Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort.

How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car?

Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect. However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system. I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query. Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.[/p][/quote]This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance. Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort. How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car? Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever. Rally
  • Score: -1

11:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Rally says...

Wackerone wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing.
Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS.
Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong.
I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity.

Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge![/p][/quote]Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing. Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS. Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong. I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity. Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition. Rally
  • Score: 3

11:28pm Wed 2 Jul 14

rozmister says...

yet_another_one wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise.
i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.
OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most.
I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities.
I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise?
The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money.
I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.
Because there's no rich disabled people in the world? Or rich disabled people shouldn't be afforded the same access to disabled spaces? Forgive me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick but all your comments about money are irrelevant and don't support any of your ideas, there's extremely wealthy disabled people out there and they're still entitled to a blue badge.
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise. i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.[/p][/quote]OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most. I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities. I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise? The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money. I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.[/p][/quote]Because there's no rich disabled people in the world? Or rich disabled people shouldn't be afforded the same access to disabled spaces? Forgive me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick but all your comments about money are irrelevant and don't support any of your ideas, there's extremely wealthy disabled people out there and they're still entitled to a blue badge. rozmister
  • Score: 1

11:33pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Wackerone wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
God smite me down but.....
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge![/p][/quote]God smite me down but..... scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

11:42pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Rally wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect.
However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system.

I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query.

Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.
This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance.
Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort.

How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car?

Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.
I'm a huge believer in the blue badge for the poor sods who need it.

I hate (strong word but I do) people who abuse it.

And they are out there in their thousands. I am just glad the GP who was forced to give by nature of his relationship built up over many years with his patient is now forced to hand the decision to an independent assessor.


(will always object to the fat abusing the system until the day I die though - it used to be the 'bad back', then it was 'depression' and now the buzz word for the easy claim is 'addict'. We all should know it is going on but do we?)
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect. However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system. I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query. Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.[/p][/quote]This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance. Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort. How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car? Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.[/p][/quote]I'm a huge believer in the blue badge for the poor sods who need it. I hate (strong word but I do) people who abuse it. And they are out there in their thousands. I am just glad the GP who was forced to give by nature of his relationship built up over many years with his patient is now forced to hand the decision to an independent assessor. (will always object to the fat abusing the system until the day I die though - it used to be the 'bad back', then it was 'depression' and now the buzz word for the easy claim is 'addict'. We all should know it is going on but do we?) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

11:55pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

Rally wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing.
Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS.
Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong.
I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity.

Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition.
What I am saying Rally, is that a lot of malingerers use FMS as an excuse for not working and obtaining blue badges as it can neither be proved or disproved 100 % and any body can go to the doctors and complain of muscle pain etc all over the body. Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases. I know personally, one person who swings the lead with so called 'FMS' but is as fit as a fiddle.
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge![/p][/quote]Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing. Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS. Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong. I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity. Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition.[/p][/quote]What I am saying Rally, is that a lot of malingerers use FMS as an excuse for not working and obtaining blue badges as it can neither be proved or disproved 100 % and any body can go to the doctors and complain of muscle pain etc all over the body. Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases. I know personally, one person who swings the lead with so called 'FMS' but is as fit as a fiddle. Wackerone
  • Score: 1

1:24am Thu 3 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

Usual ols guff. Numpty saddo cyclist racing along the prom and out come of the idiot cyclisyts shrieking about victimisation. Stories about speeding car drivers and out pop all the cretin bleating about motorists being unfairly treated.

And now blue badges.

Every knows some shyster who is misusing this facility, but instead ofa universal condemnation we get blue badge holders having an unnecessary whine about how unfair it all is.

This problem is caused by unscrupoluos shysters, and 'encouraged' by the authorities failure to take any serious action.

Yes, it is obvious that some blu badge holders may not fit the presumed appearance some will have, but that does not mean that there are not thousands and thousands misusing this facility.

i would have thought it would have been in the interest of genuine badge holders to join forces with others to stamp this out - not harp on about how unfair comments on here are.
Usual ols guff. Numpty saddo cyclist racing along the prom and out come of the idiot cyclisyts shrieking about victimisation. Stories about speeding car drivers and out pop all the cretin bleating about motorists being unfairly treated. And now blue badges. Every knows some shyster who is misusing this facility, but instead ofa universal condemnation we get blue badge holders having an unnecessary whine about how unfair it all is. This problem is caused by unscrupoluos shysters, and 'encouraged' by the authorities failure to take any serious action. Yes, it is obvious that some blu badge holders may not fit the presumed appearance some will have, but that does not mean that there are not thousands and thousands misusing this facility. i would have thought it would have been in the interest of genuine badge holders to join forces with others to stamp this out - not harp on about how unfair comments on here are. Bob49
  • Score: 1

8:37am Thu 3 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Usual ols guff. Numpty saddo cyclist racing along the prom and out come of the idiot cyclisyts shrieking about victimisation. Stories about speeding car drivers and out pop all the cretin bleating about motorists being unfairly treated.

And now blue badges.

Every knows some shyster who is misusing this facility, but instead ofa universal condemnation we get blue badge holders having an unnecessary whine about how unfair it all is.

This problem is caused by unscrupoluos shysters, and 'encouraged' by the authorities failure to take any serious action.

Yes, it is obvious that some blu badge holders may not fit the presumed appearance some will have, but that does not mean that there are not thousands and thousands misusing this facility.

i would have thought it would have been in the interest of genuine badge holders to join forces with others to stamp this out - not harp on about how unfair comments on here are.
We have to defend ourselves because of the many who assume that if someone is standing they don't need a blue badge and has got it fraudulently.

Fact is that all those who assume that someone able to get out of a car, stand or walk a short distance doesn't need the badge have no medical qualifications, and are ignorant of the effects many medical conditions have on weight and mobility. They are just making assumptions on what they see rather than on what they know and understand.

We all admit that there are some who will steal, use one belonging to a relative or sell on badges, and a few who will feign mobility problems, but they are not the majority. It's disheartening to know that, when you have a genuine need, there are many who assume you are abusing the system because of the few with no scruples.

I'm of the opinion that the photograph side of the badge should be the one on display, but it isn't because of privacy laws and is for the safety of disabled people, who could be assaulted or worse by those who see the elderly and disabled as fair game for robbery and assault.

Hopefully, when the new more-difficult to forge/alter badges are the only ones in use from January 2015, the illegal use of badges will reduce. It will always go on - there will always be scum in society, but in the meantime don't judge without knowing what condition a person is suffering from or assume that an able-bodied person isn't picking up a disabled one, which they are allowed to do.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Usual ols guff. Numpty saddo cyclist racing along the prom and out come of the idiot cyclisyts shrieking about victimisation. Stories about speeding car drivers and out pop all the cretin bleating about motorists being unfairly treated. And now blue badges. Every knows some shyster who is misusing this facility, but instead ofa universal condemnation we get blue badge holders having an unnecessary whine about how unfair it all is. This problem is caused by unscrupoluos shysters, and 'encouraged' by the authorities failure to take any serious action. Yes, it is obvious that some blu badge holders may not fit the presumed appearance some will have, but that does not mean that there are not thousands and thousands misusing this facility. i would have thought it would have been in the interest of genuine badge holders to join forces with others to stamp this out - not harp on about how unfair comments on here are.[/p][/quote]We have to defend ourselves because of the many who assume that if someone is standing they don't need a blue badge and has got it fraudulently. Fact is that all those who assume that someone able to get out of a car, stand or walk a short distance doesn't need the badge have no medical qualifications, and are ignorant of the effects many medical conditions have on weight and mobility. They are just making assumptions on what they see rather than on what they know and understand. We all admit that there are some who will steal, use one belonging to a relative or sell on badges, and a few who will feign mobility problems, but they are not the majority. It's disheartening to know that, when you have a genuine need, there are many who assume you are abusing the system because of the few with no scruples. I'm of the opinion that the photograph side of the badge should be the one on display, but it isn't because of privacy laws and is for the safety of disabled people, who could be assaulted or worse by those who see the elderly and disabled as fair game for robbery and assault. Hopefully, when the new more-difficult to forge/alter badges are the only ones in use from January 2015, the illegal use of badges will reduce. It will always go on - there will always be scum in society, but in the meantime don't judge without knowing what condition a person is suffering from or assume that an able-bodied person isn't picking up a disabled one, which they are allowed to do. Carolyn43
  • Score: 1

8:48am Thu 3 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is . nickynoodah
  • Score: -2

8:53am Thu 3 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

What about the Badgie from Wolverhampton

He was filmed running a marathon you know it is
What about the Badgie from Wolverhampton He was filmed running a marathon you know it is nickynoodah
  • Score: 3

9:13am Thu 3 Jul 14

Rally says...

Wackerone wrote:
Rally wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing.
Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS.
Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong.
I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity.

Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition.
What I am saying Rally, is that a lot of malingerers use FMS as an excuse for not working and obtaining blue badges as it can neither be proved or disproved 100 % and any body can go to the doctors and complain of muscle pain etc all over the body. Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases. I know personally, one person who swings the lead with so called 'FMS' but is as fit as a fiddle.
And still Wackerone displays marked ignorance about FMS!

As for his or her comment, 'Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases.'
This is very much a rapid climb-down (and a welcome one, at that) from his or her earlier dismissive statement, 'And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!'

Wackerone, you really do need to study FMS current research and thinking - and keep your ill-founded and potentially damaging opinions on FMS to yourself until you have done so.

Lastly,
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge![/p][/quote]Wackerone, your lack of current knowledge of Fibromyalgia is astonishing. Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS) EXISTS. Your comment, '. . . according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc.,' is entirely wrong. I suggest that you go away and read up on the current medical research into this debilitating illness - and then come back and apologise to all FMS sufferers for your gross stupidity. Meantime, Wackerone, think on this: a few decades ago Multiple Sclerosis was seen as 'all in the mind' and not an actual condition.[/p][/quote]What I am saying Rally, is that a lot of malingerers use FMS as an excuse for not working and obtaining blue badges as it can neither be proved or disproved 100 % and any body can go to the doctors and complain of muscle pain etc all over the body. Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases. I know personally, one person who swings the lead with so called 'FMS' but is as fit as a fiddle.[/p][/quote]And still Wackerone displays marked ignorance about FMS! As for his or her comment, 'Secondly, you will find that exercise such as walking is recommended by the medical profession to alleviate some of the conditions of FMS but not in all cases.' This is very much a rapid climb-down (and a welcome one, at that) from his or her earlier dismissive statement, 'And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!' Wackerone, you really do need to study FMS current research and thinking - and keep your ill-founded and potentially damaging opinions on FMS to yourself until you have done so. Lastly, Rally
  • Score: 1

9:43am Thu 3 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Rally wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect.
However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system.

I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query.

Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.
This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance.
Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort.

How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car?

Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.
The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, and I cannot stop him parking in our road. A stupid council ruling. My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc. Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions.
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect. However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system. I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query. Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.[/p][/quote]This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance. Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort. How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car? Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.[/p][/quote]The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, and I cannot stop him parking in our road. A stupid council ruling. My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc. Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions. TheDistrict
  • Score: 0

9:47am Thu 3 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

mook140780 wrote:
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
One does, every 3 years. And a load of questions everytime.
[quote][p][bold]mook140780[/bold] wrote: why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.[/p][/quote]One does, every 3 years. And a load of questions everytime. TheDistrict
  • Score: 1

10:46am Thu 3 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
mook140780 wrote:
why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.
One does, every 3 years. And a load of questions everytime.
And mook140780 has shown that he/she knows absolutely nothing about how the blue badge system works and is therefore totally unqualified to make any comment on it. You can always google it and find out instead of making statements based on no knowledge.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mook140780[/bold] wrote: why don't they have a review system whereby blue badge holders have to reapply for the badges after a certain time. If a person has died and the badge is still being used by another member of their family or is no longer eligible this review process would allow only those in real need to gain access to these benefits via the council. Simple yet effective, i'm surprised this is not already the case to be honest.[/p][/quote]One does, every 3 years. And a load of questions everytime.[/p][/quote]And mook140780 has shown that he/she knows absolutely nothing about how the blue badge system works and is therefore totally unqualified to make any comment on it. You can always google it and find out instead of making statements based on no knowledge. Carolyn43
  • Score: 1

3:48pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Rally says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Rally wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect.
However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system.

I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query.

Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.
This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance.
Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort.

How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car?

Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.
The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, and I cannot stop him parking in our road. A stupid council ruling. My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc. Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions.
TheDistrict, it was misleading of you to not mention in your initial post, 'The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, . . .'

In light of this, um, new evidence, it would appear that this particular person might not qualify genuinely for a Blue Badge.

Quote: 'And I cannot stop him parking in our road.'
Tell me, TheDistrict, what on earth this has to do with this matter?

Quote, 'A stupid council ruling.'

Hmm, perhaps the Council is in the same situation as you, TheDistrict - i.e. not in possession of all the facts concerned.

Quote: 'My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc.'

If you hold that this person is a fraud, then take it up with the issuer of his Blue Badge - but remember that you will be required to provide evidence in support of your assertion.

Quote: 'Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions.'

Well, being a holder of the Blue Badge since September 1995, I can honestly say that I am very, very familiar with 'the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions' - and believe me, TheDistrict, not a day passes without my wishing it were not so.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I have a blue badge, because I have difficulty in walking, and if I recall the distance is something like 50m or less, it maybe 100m, I cannot recollect. However, in my road we have another disabled blue badge holder, but does not actually live in my road, but some 350m from where he parks. Obviously in this case he is not parking in a disabled parking slot, but I am wondering. If he can walk that distance to his home from where he parks then surely he has, can and will abuse the blue badge system. I contacted the council regarding this, who once again took it as they see it, and stated he was not breaking the rules as he can park in any road he likes. Totally disregarded the blue badge query. Another, is Sainsburys supermarket at Alder Road. The number of blue badge holders who park in disabled bays then remain in their cars. How do I know this, on two occasions finding no disabled bays for myself, and having a bad day with my legs. I have asked the person sat in the car, and all barr one said they were the badge holder, and wating for their partner to do the shopping. Of course security at Sainsburys cannot do nothing as it is not their car park.[/p][/quote]This involves the Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance. Broadly, a person might qualify for this payment if he or she can only walk a short distance without severe discomfort. How does TheDistrict know that the person he or she sees walking 350m is not experiencing severe discomfort throughout his or her walk from car to home or home to car? Qualifying for the Blue Badge does not mean one is not allowed to walk more than 100m, or whatever.[/p][/quote]The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, and I cannot stop him parking in our road. A stupid council ruling. My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc. Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions.[/p][/quote]TheDistrict, it was misleading of you to not mention in your initial post, 'The same person has been seen walking from his residence in Ensbury Park to Wallisdown, some distance and mostly up an incline. It is obvious he has some sort of disability, but it does not impeed his movement or walking. As for any pain, according to him none, . . .' In light of this, um, new evidence, it would appear that this particular person might not qualify genuinely for a Blue Badge. Quote: 'And I cannot stop him parking in our road.' Tell me, TheDistrict, what on earth this has to do with this matter? Quote, 'A stupid council ruling.' Hmm, perhaps the Council is in the same situation as you, TheDistrict - i.e. not in possession of all the facts concerned. Quote: 'My query if he can walk that sort of distance, is he doing the same when out, taking up a disable parking bay and then walking the length of Poole High Street, across Bournemouth Square, etc, etc.' If you hold that this person is a fraud, then take it up with the issuer of his Blue Badge - but remember that you will be required to provide evidence in support of your assertion. Quote: 'Regarding the Blue Badge Rules, may I suggest Rally that you look up the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions.' Well, being a holder of the Blue Badge since September 1995, I can honestly say that I am very, very familiar with 'the application for a Blue Badge and the Terms and Conditions' - and believe me, TheDistrict, not a day passes without my wishing it were not so. Rally
  • Score: 0

3:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Rally says...

nickynoodah wrote:
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot?
Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .[/p][/quote]Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot? Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid. Rally
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

yet_another_one wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise.
i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.
OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most.
I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities.
I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise?
The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money.
I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.
In plain English pure guesswork, which fits in extremely well here.
[quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]agreed. my husband gets a lot of abuse when he displays my badge when he comes to collect me. because people just assume its him abusing the system, but when he comes back to the car with me they soon shut up, but never apologise. i also have days where i dont "look disabled" but I am. i have been abused and even threatened by people who think they know what disability looks like. i got my badge after providing medical evidence to the local authority and yet these ordinary(and often under educated) people think they know better.[/p][/quote]OK, let's put this into context for all those morons who have misunderstood my original posting - a Ferrari Testarossa is very difficult for anybody, whether able bodied, disabled or even a mentally impaired, to get into or out of & probably impossible for most. I felt the person who parked this car in the disabled bay was 'well oiled', had probably purchased a blue badge because funds to acquire one were plentifully available in order to park the vehicle in a convenient location & at the probable expense to those more worthy of such facilities. I do appreciate that blue badges are awarded to individuals rather than vehicles - so, why would I think otherwise? The car had a personalised registration to support more my comment, one that would also cost a lot of money. I have total respect for the system in awarding blue badges to those who are worthy but, as always, the system is open to abuse by scum.[/p][/quote]In plain English pure guesswork, which fits in extremely well here. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

5:21pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Wackerone wrote:
jaomi4 wrote:
misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.
ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge!
I prefer calling it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I like people to explain how I managed to lose three stone in weight in ten weeks without going on a diet. My personal best for sleeping is an 18 hour stretch. I feel worse in the summer because of the temperature. So sorry folks but roll on those lovely, long, dark, cold winter days and nights. There also doesn't appear to be much wrong with me as I can get around on my bike. I also prefer living on JSA or ESA rather being being a top rate taxpayer as I used to be. You know it makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaomi4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]i am only 30. i have a blue badge. ive been registered as disabled since the age of 14. my disability come from long term illnesses as opposed to paralysis or similar. i have ME and Fibromyalgia. the system is not ageist but it is thorough. if you dont meet the criteria you dont get the badge.[/p][/quote]ME eh! That imaginary illness which most medical experts still dispute. And Fibromyalgia eh! That other pretend condition which is played upon by the lazy and according to the NHS best overcome with exercise etc., not with a blue badge![/p][/quote]I prefer calling it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I like people to explain how I managed to lose three stone in weight in ten weeks without going on a diet. My personal best for sleeping is an 18 hour stretch. I feel worse in the summer because of the temperature. So sorry folks but roll on those lovely, long, dark, cold winter days and nights. There also doesn't appear to be much wrong with me as I can get around on my bike. I also prefer living on JSA or ESA rather being being a top rate taxpayer as I used to be. You know it makes sense. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

5:33pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

nickynoodah wrote:
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
Please get back to your Polish lessons.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .[/p][/quote]Please get back to your Polish lessons. breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Rally wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot?
Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.
Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son.
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .[/p][/quote]Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot? Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.[/p][/quote]Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son. breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Thu 3 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

The dodgy badgers are at it again it must be this warm weather you know it is making them very ruuuuuude
ask your carer to pull the bedsit curtains george and cool down also
is your name rally or wally.
The dodgy badgers are at it again it must be this warm weather you know it is making them very ruuuuuude ask your carer to pull the bedsit curtains george and cool down also is your name rally or wally. nickynoodah
  • Score: 0

8:53pm Thu 3 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

breamoreboy wrote:
Rally wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot?
Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.
Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son.
CHESS

tell me another
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .[/p][/quote]Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot? Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.[/p][/quote]Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son.[/p][/quote]CHESS tell me another nickynoodah
  • Score: 4

9:13pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Rally says...

nickynoodah wrote:
The dodgy badgers are at it again it must be this warm weather you know it is making them very ruuuuuude
ask your carer to pull the bedsit curtains george and cool down also
is your name rally or wally.
May you, nickynoodah, live in interesting times - you certainly deserve to do so.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The dodgy badgers are at it again it must be this warm weather you know it is making them very ruuuuuude ask your carer to pull the bedsit curtains george and cool down also is your name rally or wally.[/p][/quote]May you, nickynoodah, live in interesting times - you certainly deserve to do so. Rally
  • Score: -4

9:27pm Thu 3 Jul 14

nickynoodah says...

Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me
CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges
and making you walk for the first time in years
you know you want to George
you will soon get back on your feet you know.
Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges and making you walk for the first time in years you know you want to George you will soon get back on your feet you know. nickynoodah
  • Score: 0

12:22am Fri 4 Jul 14

Rally says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me
CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges
and making you walk for the first time in years
you know you want to George
you will soon get back on your feet you know.
This is not about of 'dodgy badgers CRYING to you, nickynoodah, it is about your offending people such as myself and others here who have a genuine need for a Blue Badge.
With your sweeping comments you effectively and derogatorily tar a lot of disabled people with the same brush, and it is this arrogant and ill-informed behaviour of yours that is unacceptable too many folk here.
Yes, some people do misuse the Blue Badge, but this does not - despite your totally inept view to the contrary - mean that the majority of Blue Badge holders are doing so.
You may well think that with using the term 'dodgy badgers you are being clever, but you are not - you are only displaying publically a high level of ignorance and stupidity.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges and making you walk for the first time in years you know you want to George you will soon get back on your feet you know.[/p][/quote]This is not about of 'dodgy badgers CRYING to you, nickynoodah, it is about your offending people such as myself and others here who have a genuine need for a Blue Badge. With your sweeping comments you effectively and derogatorily tar a lot of disabled people with the same brush, and it is this arrogant and ill-informed behaviour of yours that is unacceptable too many folk here. Yes, some people do misuse the Blue Badge, but this does not - despite your totally inept view to the contrary - mean that the majority of Blue Badge holders are doing so. You may well think that with using the term 'dodgy badgers you are being clever, but you are not - you are only displaying publically a high level of ignorance and stupidity. Rally
  • Score: 2

8:37am Fri 4 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

Rally wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me
CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges
and making you walk for the first time in years
you know you want to George
you will soon get back on your feet you know.
This is not about of 'dodgy badgers CRYING to you, nickynoodah, it is about your offending people such as myself and others here who have a genuine need for a Blue Badge.
With your sweeping comments you effectively and derogatorily tar a lot of disabled people with the same brush, and it is this arrogant and ill-informed behaviour of yours that is unacceptable too many folk here.
Yes, some people do misuse the Blue Badge, but this does not - despite your totally inept view to the contrary - mean that the majority of Blue Badge holders are doing so.
You may well think that with using the term 'dodgy badgers you are being clever, but you are not - you are only displaying publically a high level of ignorance and stupidity.
Thank you Rally,for your comments,most of us would love to be able to get around on our own two feet more.At nearly 80,i feel really down at times,especially right now,and callous comments like some of those on here,makes matters worse.
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Its no good you dodgy badgers CRYING to me CRY to the ones who are confiscating your dodgy bad back parking badges and making you walk for the first time in years you know you want to George you will soon get back on your feet you know.[/p][/quote]This is not about of 'dodgy badgers CRYING to you, nickynoodah, it is about your offending people such as myself and others here who have a genuine need for a Blue Badge. With your sweeping comments you effectively and derogatorily tar a lot of disabled people with the same brush, and it is this arrogant and ill-informed behaviour of yours that is unacceptable too many folk here. Yes, some people do misuse the Blue Badge, but this does not - despite your totally inept view to the contrary - mean that the majority of Blue Badge holders are doing so. You may well think that with using the term 'dodgy badgers you are being clever, but you are not - you are only displaying publically a high level of ignorance and stupidity.[/p][/quote]Thank you Rally,for your comments,most of us would love to be able to get around on our own two feet more.At nearly 80,i feel really down at times,especially right now,and callous comments like some of those on here,makes matters worse. pete woodley
  • Score: 3

9:44am Fri 4 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

nickynoodah wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
Rally wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .
Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot?
Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.
Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son.
CHESS

tell me another
In English or Polish?
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: The collective word for most Badgies is IDLEITIS you know it is .[/p][/quote]Tell me, nickynoodah, do you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of being a complete idiot? Perhaps your becoming genuinely unable to walk more than a few yards without severe pain and discomfort would get you to stop being so remarkably stupid.[/p][/quote]Please withdraw that comment immediately. nickynoodah makes a "complete idiot" look extremely intelligent. And now I must dash, playing chess with my younger son.[/p][/quote]CHESS tell me another[/p][/quote]In English or Polish? breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

11:38pm Fri 4 Jul 14

alyce says...

Well I went to Aberystwyth last week and nearly fainted when I saw there was 4 hours free parking by the prom! This the way to go. Take note Poole and Bournemouth.
Well I went to Aberystwyth last week and nearly fainted when I saw there was 4 hours free parking by the prom! This the way to go. Take note Poole and Bournemouth. alyce
  • Score: 1

8:15am Sat 5 Jul 14

roamer200 says...

misplacedspaniard wrote:
My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.
I see some incredible disabled people working and living active lives. They are just getting on with it and so inspirational. The reason people get annoyed is that badges do ( and I know this for a fact) get badges for having a sore leg. We'll a parent with three kids struggles too. Self inflicted illness through smoking or being fat is not a disability. I seethe blue badges being displayed with pride by these blaggers all the time. Sometimes they don't even need to show them but they sit there placing them on the dash with their smug little grins. This is why people get bitter!!!
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote: My mum has fibromyalgia and is entitled to jack sh1t because she is under 60. Neither is my disabled nephew. You see elderly people who can walk better than my poor mother with blue badges but I guess that's what you get for living in an ageist society.[/p][/quote]I see some incredible disabled people working and living active lives. They are just getting on with it and so inspirational. The reason people get annoyed is that badges do ( and I know this for a fact) get badges for having a sore leg. We'll a parent with three kids struggles too. Self inflicted illness through smoking or being fat is not a disability. I seethe blue badges being displayed with pride by these blaggers all the time. Sometimes they don't even need to show them but they sit there placing them on the dash with their smug little grins. This is why people get bitter!!! roamer200
  • Score: 0

8:17am Sat 5 Jul 14

roamer200 says...

Paul Weaver wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop?

Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.
More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend
[quote][p][bold]Paul Weaver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop? Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.[/p][/quote]More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend roamer200
  • Score: -2

8:27am Sat 5 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

More vile comments from those who do not know anything about peoples illnesses,and why they need a badge.Perhaps they want one for their mental illness.
More vile comments from those who do not know anything about peoples illnesses,and why they need a badge.Perhaps they want one for their mental illness. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

12:22pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Rally says...

roamer200 wrote:
Paul Weaver wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop?

Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.
More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend
How a part of me hopes that roamer200 one day finds him- or her-self to be a genuine, repeat genuine, recipient of the DLA benefit.
He or she will very quickly find themselves more than prepared to trade-in their up-to-£56.75 per week allowance for even a short term of reasonably good health.
[quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul Weaver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop? Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.[/p][/quote]More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend[/p][/quote]How a part of me hopes that roamer200 one day finds him- or her-self to be a genuine, repeat genuine, recipient of the DLA benefit. He or she will very quickly find themselves more than prepared to trade-in their up-to-£56.75 per week allowance for even a short term of reasonably good health. Rally
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Rally says...

Roamer200 (who is evidently wallowing in a bout of 'sour grapes') wrote, 'Self inflicted illness through smoking or being fat is not a disability.'
Okay, Roamer200, imagine, if you will, you are wittingly driving a car recklessly and have an accident that leaves you seriously disabled.
As your injuries are in effect 'self inflicted', should you be denied all forms of medical and financial help?
Much to my dismay, your attitude on this issue of disability brings to mind the Nazi Regime of 30s-40s Germany.
Roamer200 (who is evidently wallowing in a bout of 'sour grapes') wrote, 'Self inflicted illness through smoking or being fat is not a disability.' Okay, Roamer200, imagine, if you will, you are wittingly driving a car recklessly and have an accident that leaves you seriously disabled. As your injuries are in effect 'self inflicted', should you be denied all forms of medical and financial help? Much to my dismay, your attitude on this issue of disability brings to mind the Nazi Regime of 30s-40s Germany. Rally
  • Score: 0

6:14pm Sat 5 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

roamer200 wrote:
Paul Weaver wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop?

Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.
More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend
That's right, bloody pensioners, how dare they!!! Or are you not aware that pensioners take the biggest chunk out of the benefits system?
[quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul Weaver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop? Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.[/p][/quote]More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend[/p][/quote]That's right, bloody pensioners, how dare they!!! Or are you not aware that pensioners take the biggest chunk out of the benefits system? breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

6:17pm Sat 5 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

pete woodley wrote:
More vile comments from those who do not know anything about peoples illnesses,and why they need a badge.Perhaps they want one for their mental illness.
Does not having a brain class as mental disability, physical disability or both?
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: More vile comments from those who do not know anything about peoples illnesses,and why they need a badge.Perhaps they want one for their mental illness.[/p][/quote]Does not having a brain class as mental disability, physical disability or both? breamoreboy
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8:55pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pete woodley says...

breamoreboy wrote:
roamer200 wrote:
Paul Weaver wrote:
abc100 wrote:
I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop
them doing is driving!!!!
Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop?

Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.
More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend
That's right, bloody pensioners, how dare they!!! Or are you not aware that pensioners take the biggest chunk out of the benefits system?
Are you anti pensioner for some reason.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roamer200[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul Weaver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: I love the ones that have to park close to the shops because of their disability and then spend the next 2 hours walking round the shops, I feel sorry for anyone that us disabled but the one thing it never seems to stop them doing is driving!!!![/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that it takes them 2 hours to shop as their disability slows them down when walking around the shop? Modern adaptations to cars enable many people with their disabilities to continue driving. If it wasn't for these adaptations they would have to give up driving.[/p][/quote]More likely takes them two hours because they have so much cash from the benefits system to spend[/p][/quote]That's right, bloody pensioners, how dare they!!! Or are you not aware that pensioners take the biggest chunk out of the benefits system?[/p][/quote]Are you anti pensioner for some reason. pete woodley
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11:49am Sun 6 Jul 14

GGhammy says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
breamoreboy wrote:
yet_another_one wrote:
Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled.
Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?
Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?
Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.
I'm genuinely disabled - serious chronic illness since childhood - and i can't get one - i think you might find the definition of disabled used to issue is outdated and restrictive to some who would really benefit from it.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yet_another_one[/bold] wrote: Recently saw a gleaming Ferrari Testarossa Convertible parked up in a disabled bay complete with blue badge - any fit & able bodied person will experience a degree of difficulty in getting in/out of this vehicle, let alone one that is truly disabled. Isn't this 'extracting the michael' or what ?[/p][/quote]Possibly. Or simply jumping to conclusions? How does anybody know whether or not the driver can get into and out of the vehicle without any problem, but cannot actually move more than 100 yards and hence is classified as disabled?[/p][/quote]Exactly. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've been subjected to for having the nerve to display my (VALID AND LEGAL) disabled badge in parking bays/yellow lines etc. Just because someone doesn't 'look' disabled doesn't mean they aren't - it's nothing but ignorant stereotyping. It isn't easy getting a badge in the first place, only genuinely disabled people get them.[/p][/quote]I'm genuinely disabled - serious chronic illness since childhood - and i can't get one - i think you might find the definition of disabled used to issue is outdated and restrictive to some who would really benefit from it. GGhammy
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