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Travellers who caused Bath Road South car park to be closed move on

Bournemouth Echo: Travellers who closed Bournemouth town centre car park move on Travellers who closed Bournemouth town centre car park move on

TRAVELLERS that set up camp in Bournemouth town centre have now moved on.

On Saturday morning, several motor homes arrived at Bath Road South car park, causing it to be closed until Sunday to prevent a further incursion.

The council was set to apply for a court order to remove them yesterday, but they left of their own accord.

Likewise, the three motor homes that arrived on the cliff top behind the Bournemouth International Centre on Friday have also departed.

They had gained entry thanks to an insecure barrier and the council began legal proceedings, but that group has also now left.

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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8:23am Tue 17 Jun 14

smhinto says...

I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ???

No - I thought not!!!
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Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!!
I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ??? No - I thought not!!! . Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!! smhinto
  • Score: 34

9:01am Tue 17 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

The travellers should agree to have tracker device fitted to there vehicles in exchange for the free hospitality.then the police will know where the next illegal pitch will be.They obviously have stealth technology as the police helicopter and numerous traffic cops fail to see them when on the move
The travellers should agree to have tracker device fitted to there vehicles in exchange for the free hospitality.then the police will know where the next illegal pitch will be.They obviously have stealth technology as the police helicopter and numerous traffic cops fail to see them when on the move kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 10

9:07am Tue 17 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

The vans on the cliff by the BIC arrived last Wednesday and the ones in the car park arrived last Thursday apart from one van which I saw the guard waving in on Saturday morning - while his mate was asleep!

All we have to do now is wait for the next lot to arrive which will be in the next few weeks.
The vans on the cliff by the BIC arrived last Wednesday and the ones in the car park arrived last Thursday apart from one van which I saw the guard waving in on Saturday morning - while his mate was asleep! All we have to do now is wait for the next lot to arrive which will be in the next few weeks. MrPitiful
  • Score: 9

9:23am Tue 17 Jun 14

TheDistrict says...

As i pointed out in my letter to the Bournemouth Echo on the subject of travellers, above is proof that the Echo supports travellers. Indeed both illegal encampments were in place days before the days mentioned in the above Echo story.

It is now obvious that not only the Bournemouth Council, Dorset Police, but also the Bournemouth Echo are mindful and scared of these people.

What chance does the people of Bournemouth have, without the support of the authorities. Where is our rights, are we not a race also.
As i pointed out in my letter to the Bournemouth Echo on the subject of travellers, above is proof that the Echo supports travellers. Indeed both illegal encampments were in place days before the days mentioned in the above Echo story. It is now obvious that not only the Bournemouth Council, Dorset Police, but also the Bournemouth Echo are mindful and scared of these people. What chance does the people of Bournemouth have, without the support of the authorities. Where is our rights, are we not a race also. TheDistrict
  • Score: 16

9:26am Tue 17 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

TheDistrict wrote:
As i pointed out in my letter to the Bournemouth Echo on the subject of travellers, above is proof that the Echo supports travellers. Indeed both illegal encampments were in place days before the days mentioned in the above Echo story.

It is now obvious that not only the Bournemouth Council, Dorset Police, but also the Bournemouth Echo are mindful and scared of these people.

What chance does the people of Bournemouth have, without the support of the authorities. Where is our rights, are we not a race also.
Why are the council and police afraid to uphold the law,and why does the Echo not speak out stronger ?.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: As i pointed out in my letter to the Bournemouth Echo on the subject of travellers, above is proof that the Echo supports travellers. Indeed both illegal encampments were in place days before the days mentioned in the above Echo story. It is now obvious that not only the Bournemouth Council, Dorset Police, but also the Bournemouth Echo are mindful and scared of these people. What chance does the people of Bournemouth have, without the support of the authorities. Where is our rights, are we not a race also.[/p][/quote]Why are the council and police afraid to uphold the law,and why does the Echo not speak out stronger ?. pete woodley
  • Score: 17

9:57am Tue 17 Jun 14

skydriver says...

How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules.
Now is that unreasonable.???
How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules. Now is that unreasonable.??? skydriver
  • Score: 20

10:35am Tue 17 Jun 14

chris100 says...

smhinto wrote:
I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ???

No - I thought not!!!
.
Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!!
I have sent an email to councilor beesley asking that question and more and if or when he replays I will put it on here
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ??? No - I thought not!!! . Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!![/p][/quote]I have sent an email to councilor beesley asking that question and more and if or when he replays I will put it on here chris100
  • Score: 8

10:49am Tue 17 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

I note that the Echo (perhaps intentionally) uses only the word 'traveller' in it's recent topical articles - including this one. So may we all remind those agencies who yet again failed the public so miserably in their handling of this latest situation that 'travellers' are not protected by any legal 'ethnic' status in the UK. As mere 'travellers' the people in those motorhomes last weekend should have been arrested and charged for what they did at Bournemouth Pier.

If once again the authorities choose to excuse their frustrating inaction by referring to these people as ethnic 'Irish travellers' then perhaps they could explain to the long suffering public how they established beyond any doubt that these folk were truly ethnic 'Irish travellers' with a provable heritage and not just a bunch of lawless travelling tourists who - at least on this particular occasion - appear to have come from Ireland.

The only long term solution to this whole issue is the popular idea of a change in UK law that ends the recognition of 'Irish travellers' as ethnic, but as recent events have already exposed an awful lot of highly paid people in our local public employ as seriously inadequate and overtly 'liberal' clearly it is not just the Law which will have to reviewed!
I note that the Echo (perhaps intentionally) uses only the word 'traveller' in it's recent topical articles - including this one. So may we all remind those agencies who yet again failed the public so miserably in their handling of this latest situation that 'travellers' are not protected by any legal 'ethnic' status in the UK. As mere 'travellers' the people in those motorhomes last weekend should have been arrested and charged for what they did at Bournemouth Pier. If once again the authorities choose to excuse their frustrating inaction by referring to these people as ethnic 'Irish travellers' then perhaps they could explain to the long suffering public how they established beyond any doubt that these folk were truly ethnic 'Irish travellers' with a provable heritage and not just a bunch of lawless travelling tourists who - at least on this particular occasion - appear to have come from Ireland. The only long term solution to this whole issue is the popular idea of a change in UK law that ends the recognition of 'Irish travellers' as ethnic, but as recent events have already exposed an awful lot of highly paid people in our local public employ as seriously inadequate and overtly 'liberal' clearly it is not just the Law which will have to reviewed! muscliffman
  • Score: 12

10:57am Tue 17 Jun 14

DansAFCB says...

skydriver wrote:
How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules.
Now is that unreasonable.???
They don't want to be treated like the rest of us, is that not clear?

These scummy things do what they want when they want and have no regard to us law abiding citizens. They do NOT respect themselves, so why the hell would they respect us and our town etc...... As I have said numerous times, treat them like they treat us, which is like pieces of s**t!!!!

Rights.......??? Scumbags take note "you have to earn rights, it is not a given". I bet not one single vehicle was booked with a parking ticket in the car parks!!? Does that mean I can park there for free now all the time? No thought not!

TO THE ECHO!
You quote "Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation."

Am I missing something? Do we not have freedom of speech in this country? Or has that been taken away as well, you make me sick, bloody POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS all the time, stand up for the people that keep you alive and buy your paper, afterall peoples views/comments are not your views are they?..... FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REMEMBER IT!
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules. Now is that unreasonable.???[/p][/quote]They don't want to be treated like the rest of us, is that not clear? These scummy things do what they want when they want and have no regard to us law abiding citizens. They do NOT respect themselves, so why the hell would they respect us and our town etc...... As I have said numerous times, treat them like they treat us, which is like pieces of s**t!!!! Rights.......??? Scumbags take note "you have to earn rights, it is not a given". I bet not one single vehicle was booked with a parking ticket in the car parks!!? Does that mean I can park there for free now all the time? No thought not! TO THE ECHO! You quote "Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation." Am I missing something? Do we not have freedom of speech in this country? Or has that been taken away as well, you make me sick, bloody POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS all the time, stand up for the people that keep you alive and buy your paper, afterall peoples views/comments are not your views are they?..... FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REMEMBER IT! DansAFCB
  • Score: 13

11:35am Tue 17 Jun 14

Turtlebay says...

MrPitiful wrote:
The vans on the cliff by the BIC arrived last Wednesday and the ones in the car park arrived last Thursday apart from one van which I saw the guard waving in on Saturday morning - while his mate was asleep!

All we have to do now is wait for the next lot to arrive which will be in the next few weeks.
You should read this letter from Mr Simmonds of Crowborough, http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/yoursay
/letterstotheeditor/
11282106.A_tourist__
not_a_traveller/

FACT.
There are no parking facilities anywhere within the Bourough of Bournemouth for vehicles larger than a car. When someone visits Bournemouth (God help them!) in a taller vehicle there is nowhere for them to park!

I know to my cost whilst trying to deliver to Kinson swimming pool at Pelhams Park last week. The maximum 2 metre hight barrier was closed and there was nowhere to park my lorry. There was a notice saying ring so and so number BUT THEY HADN'T PROVIDED A TELEPHONE to do so!
Not everyone has a mobile phone you know!
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: The vans on the cliff by the BIC arrived last Wednesday and the ones in the car park arrived last Thursday apart from one van which I saw the guard waving in on Saturday morning - while his mate was asleep! All we have to do now is wait for the next lot to arrive which will be in the next few weeks.[/p][/quote]You should read this letter from Mr Simmonds of Crowborough, http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/yoursay /letterstotheeditor/ 11282106.A_tourist__ not_a_traveller/ FACT. There are no parking facilities anywhere within the Bourough of Bournemouth for vehicles larger than a car. When someone visits Bournemouth (God help them!) in a taller vehicle there is nowhere for them to park! I know to my cost whilst trying to deliver to Kinson swimming pool at Pelhams Park last week. The maximum 2 metre hight barrier was closed and there was nowhere to park my lorry. There was a notice saying ring so and so number BUT THEY HADN'T PROVIDED A TELEPHONE to do so! Not everyone has a mobile phone you know! Turtlebay
  • Score: 2

12:37pm Tue 17 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

I suggest anyone getting a parking ticket sends it back stateing they are a traveller you don't need any proof that you are so the council have to prove your not .Is there a definitive description of a traveller?'must you be Irish on holiday. Have a lurcher,drive a new 4x4 have a very expensive caravan,,no evidence that you have paid a utility bill.you have friend at the Echo understand stealth technology that allows you to become invisible to police.I think I may try it for a couple of days I'm off to park in the mayor's place at the town hall
I suggest anyone getting a parking ticket sends it back stateing they are a traveller you don't need any proof that you are so the council have to prove your not .Is there a definitive description of a traveller?'must you be Irish on holiday. Have a lurcher,drive a new 4x4 have a very expensive caravan,,no evidence that you have paid a utility bill.you have friend at the Echo understand stealth technology that allows you to become invisible to police.I think I may try it for a couple of days I'm off to park in the mayor's place at the town hall kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 11

1:54pm Tue 17 Jun 14

NickTheGreekinBmth says...

smhinto wrote:
I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ???

No - I thought not!!!
.
Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!!
How do you know they didn't get a parking fine? whether they pay or not is another matter of course
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: I wonder if they were made to pay the appropriate parking fees before they left ??? No - I thought not!!! . Undoubtedly, if I or Joe Public had parked my / his wagons there one would have been hit by a fine with the speed of light!![/p][/quote]How do you know they didn't get a parking fine? whether they pay or not is another matter of course NickTheGreekinBmth
  • Score: -8

5:35pm Tue 17 Jun 14

spooki says...

I'm really fed up with this now!
I don't have much money but I purchase the appropriate VED, Mot, insurance etc for my 13yr old car. I park where I'm meant to, pay when I'm asked to, and leave within the allocated time so I don't get fined/clamped/ticket
ed.
How come certain people are allowed (as it appears) to park wherever they like? By the time council or police have finished faffing about getting court orders or whatever, they've left! What happened to sending for a tow truck?
If they can tow a bus I'm sure they could manage a 4x4 or mobile home.
The councils around London aren't scared to tow away a Lambo or Ferrari belonging to a rich boy or Arab within minutes of them parking illegally.
They're "travellers" aren't they! So travel off.
I'm really fed up with this now! I don't have much money but I purchase the appropriate VED, Mot, insurance etc for my 13yr old car. I park where I'm meant to, pay when I'm asked to, and leave within the allocated time so I don't get fined/clamped/ticket ed. How come certain people are allowed (as it appears) to park wherever they like? By the time council or police have finished faffing about getting court orders or whatever, they've left! What happened to sending for a tow truck? If they can tow a bus I'm sure they could manage a 4x4 or mobile home. The councils around London aren't scared to tow away a Lambo or Ferrari belonging to a rich boy or Arab within minutes of them parking illegally. They're "travellers" aren't they! So travel off. spooki
  • Score: 8

6:57pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

DansAFCB wrote:
skydriver wrote:
How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules.
Now is that unreasonable.???
They don't want to be treated like the rest of us, is that not clear?

These scummy things do what they want when they want and have no regard to us law abiding citizens. They do NOT respect themselves, so why the hell would they respect us and our town etc...... As I have said numerous times, treat them like they treat us, which is like pieces of s**t!!!!

Rights.......??? Scumbags take note "you have to earn rights, it is not a given". I bet not one single vehicle was booked with a parking ticket in the car parks!!? Does that mean I can park there for free now all the time? No thought not!

TO THE ECHO!
You quote "Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation."

Am I missing something? Do we not have freedom of speech in this country? Or has that been taken away as well, you make me sick, bloody POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS all the time, stand up for the people that keep you alive and buy your paper, afterall peoples views/comments are not your views are they?..... FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REMEMBER IT!
Yes, you are missing something. We don't actually have freedom to say anything we like. If your post is considered to be encouraging racial hatred and left on this site, both you and the Echo can be prosecuted. If the Echo removes your post and/or suspends you, consider yourself lucky.

You only have to look at news reports to see that prosecutions are frequent for this and for abusive posts, tweets and emails to individuals, with those found guilty being jailed. To make them visible to everyone is even more likely to attract attention.
[quote][p][bold]DansAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: How is this allowed to happen, why are they not prosecuted and find like any other driver/ citizen, if these folk want to be treated the same as the rest of us then they too must play by the rules. Now is that unreasonable.???[/p][/quote]They don't want to be treated like the rest of us, is that not clear? These scummy things do what they want when they want and have no regard to us law abiding citizens. They do NOT respect themselves, so why the hell would they respect us and our town etc...... As I have said numerous times, treat them like they treat us, which is like pieces of s**t!!!! Rights.......??? Scumbags take note "you have to earn rights, it is not a given". I bet not one single vehicle was booked with a parking ticket in the car parks!!? Does that mean I can park there for free now all the time? No thought not! TO THE ECHO! You quote "Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation." Am I missing something? Do we not have freedom of speech in this country? Or has that been taken away as well, you make me sick, bloody POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS all the time, stand up for the people that keep you alive and buy your paper, afterall peoples views/comments are not your views are they?..... FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REMEMBER IT![/p][/quote]Yes, you are missing something. We don't actually have freedom to say anything we like. If your post is considered to be encouraging racial hatred and left on this site, both you and the Echo can be prosecuted. If the Echo removes your post and/or suspends you, consider yourself lucky. You only have to look at news reports to see that prosecutions are frequent for this and for abusive posts, tweets and emails to individuals, with those found guilty being jailed. To make them visible to everyone is even more likely to attract attention. Carolyn43
  • Score: 3

6:59pm Tue 17 Jun 14

boardsandphotos says...

The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like.

On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole.

(prepared for a thumbs down pelting)
The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like. On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole. (prepared for a thumbs down pelting) boardsandphotos
  • Score: 5

7:04pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Peroni says...

Insecure barrier lol !
Like at Baiter ,where two police officers watched as they broke open a padlock and did nothing about it lol
Cowards !!
Insecure barrier lol ! Like at Baiter ,where two police officers watched as they broke open a padlock and did nothing about it lol Cowards !! Peroni
  • Score: 4

9:29pm Tue 17 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like.

On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole.

(prepared for a thumbs down pelting)
IF private enterprise chooses yo accommodate a public forum .then it follows that those that participate are Writing in the spirit of free speech if it offends because it is not what people want to hear but is stated as a true reflection of the individuals passion and beliefs then I think that is fair comment .
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like. On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole. (prepared for a thumbs down pelting)[/p][/quote]IF private enterprise chooses yo accommodate a public forum .then it follows that those that participate are Writing in the spirit of free speech if it offends because it is not what people want to hear but is stated as a true reflection of the individuals passion and beliefs then I think that is fair comment . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

9:32pm Tue 17 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Peroni wrote:
Insecure barrier lol !
Like at Baiter ,where two police officers watched as they broke open a padlock and did nothing about it lol
Cowards !!
Would be interesting if you could prove this observation .I sincerely hope you can
[quote][p][bold]Peroni[/bold] wrote: Insecure barrier lol ! Like at Baiter ,where two police officers watched as they broke open a padlock and did nothing about it lol Cowards !![/p][/quote]Would be interesting if you could prove this observation .I sincerely hope you can kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -1

10:20pm Tue 17 Jun 14

chris100 says...

Like I said in a previous post here is the email I revived back


Bath Road South car park was closed on Saturday as an operational decision taken at the time in order to restrict access by further travellers and unauthorised encampments as many travellers were turned away from Kings Park by security. The Bath Road South site does not have height barriers due to important disabled bays for the town centre and seafront and a need to accommodate high sided vehicles. Following a strategic review on Sunday, in similar circumstances we may keep a car park open in the day in the future but closed at night. The Council’s strategy is constantly reassessed and reviewed on a case by case basis having taken all the available intelligence from a much wider area into account. Thus far the strategy has been very effective, albeit costly in terms of both capital and revenue costs.

Neither of the vehicles purchased a ticket to park in the car park. A Penalty Charge Notice was issued to both vehicles for parking in a disabled parking bay without displaying a blue badge, rather than for not purchasing a ticket, as this is a higher level contravention and therefore takes precedence. We have also reported one of the vehicles to the DVLA for not being taxed.

It is difficult to calculate the level of lost revenue caused by the temporary closure of the car park, because we know that there was spare capacity in other car parks within the town on Saturday. Therefore, this wouldn’t necessarily have led to a loss of revenue for the Council, as it is more likely to have simply displaced the parking to other town centre car parks.
Like I said in a previous post here is the email I revived back Bath Road South car park was closed on Saturday as an operational decision taken at the time in order to restrict access by further travellers and unauthorised encampments as many travellers were turned away from Kings Park by security. The Bath Road South site does not have height barriers due to important disabled bays for the town centre and seafront and a need to accommodate high sided vehicles. Following a strategic review on Sunday, in similar circumstances we may keep a car park open in the day in the future but closed at night. The Council’s strategy is constantly reassessed and reviewed on a case by case basis having taken all the available intelligence from a much wider area into account. Thus far the strategy has been very effective, albeit costly in terms of both capital and revenue costs. Neither of the vehicles purchased a ticket to park in the car park. A Penalty Charge Notice was issued to both vehicles for parking in a disabled parking bay without displaying a blue badge, rather than for not purchasing a ticket, as this is a higher level contravention and therefore takes precedence. We have also reported one of the vehicles to the DVLA for not being taxed. It is difficult to calculate the level of lost revenue caused by the temporary closure of the car park, because we know that there was spare capacity in other car parks within the town on Saturday. Therefore, this wouldn’t necessarily have led to a loss of revenue for the Council, as it is more likely to have simply displaced the parking to other town centre car parks. chris100
  • Score: 1

11:55pm Tue 17 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

chris100 wrote:
Like I said in a previous post here is the email I revived back


Bath Road South car park was closed on Saturday as an operational decision taken at the time in order to restrict access by further travellers and unauthorised encampments as many travellers were turned away from Kings Park by security. The Bath Road South site does not have height barriers due to important disabled bays for the town centre and seafront and a need to accommodate high sided vehicles. Following a strategic review on Sunday, in similar circumstances we may keep a car park open in the day in the future but closed at night. The Council’s strategy is constantly reassessed and reviewed on a case by case basis having taken all the available intelligence from a much wider area into account. Thus far the strategy has been very effective, albeit costly in terms of both capital and revenue costs.

Neither of the vehicles purchased a ticket to park in the car park. A Penalty Charge Notice was issued to both vehicles for parking in a disabled parking bay without displaying a blue badge, rather than for not purchasing a ticket, as this is a higher level contravention and therefore takes precedence. We have also reported one of the vehicles to the DVLA for not being taxed.

It is difficult to calculate the level of lost revenue caused by the temporary closure of the car park, because we know that there was spare capacity in other car parks within the town on Saturday. Therefore, this wouldn’t necessarily have led to a loss of revenue for the Council, as it is more likely to have simply displaced the parking to other town centre car parks.
Of course the untaxed 'traveller' vehicle was also immediately reported to the Police by the Council and naturally the Police intercepted the vehicle when it next took illegally to the public highway - and then carried out a full set of compliance checks in the interest's of public safety and upholding the law.

Because as it's untaxed it is also likely to be without legal insurance cover (usually invalid automatically on an unlicensed vehicle) or even a current MOT. In addition if the van was in fact Irish Republic registered like those other 'traveller' vehicles by the BIC certainly were, what darn point was there in the Council reporting it to our UK DVLA?

You do despair, because we can all guess what happened here, or rather didn't - but then if it was one of us.......
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Like I said in a previous post here is the email I revived back Bath Road South car park was closed on Saturday as an operational decision taken at the time in order to restrict access by further travellers and unauthorised encampments as many travellers were turned away from Kings Park by security. The Bath Road South site does not have height barriers due to important disabled bays for the town centre and seafront and a need to accommodate high sided vehicles. Following a strategic review on Sunday, in similar circumstances we may keep a car park open in the day in the future but closed at night. The Council’s strategy is constantly reassessed and reviewed on a case by case basis having taken all the available intelligence from a much wider area into account. Thus far the strategy has been very effective, albeit costly in terms of both capital and revenue costs. Neither of the vehicles purchased a ticket to park in the car park. A Penalty Charge Notice was issued to both vehicles for parking in a disabled parking bay without displaying a blue badge, rather than for not purchasing a ticket, as this is a higher level contravention and therefore takes precedence. We have also reported one of the vehicles to the DVLA for not being taxed. It is difficult to calculate the level of lost revenue caused by the temporary closure of the car park, because we know that there was spare capacity in other car parks within the town on Saturday. Therefore, this wouldn’t necessarily have led to a loss of revenue for the Council, as it is more likely to have simply displaced the parking to other town centre car parks.[/p][/quote]Of course the untaxed 'traveller' vehicle was also immediately reported to the Police by the Council and naturally the Police intercepted the vehicle when it next took illegally to the public highway - and then carried out a full set of compliance checks in the interest's of public safety and upholding the law. Because as it's untaxed it is also likely to be without legal insurance cover (usually invalid automatically on an unlicensed vehicle) or even a current MOT. In addition if the van was in fact Irish Republic registered like those other 'traveller' vehicles by the BIC certainly were, what darn point was there in the Council reporting it to our UK DVLA? You do despair, because we can all guess what happened here, or rather didn't - but then if it was one of us....... muscliffman
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12:24am Wed 18 Jun 14

chris100 says...

Muscliffman.
Is there are any questions you would like me to ask in my reply ?
Muscliffman. Is there are any questions you would like me to ask in my reply ? chris100
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8:32am Wed 18 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
boardsandphotos wrote:
The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like.

On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole.

(prepared for a thumbs down pelting)
IF private enterprise chooses yo accommodate a public forum .then it follows that those that participate are Writing in the spirit of free speech if it offends because it is not what people want to hear but is stated as a true reflection of the individuals passion and beliefs then I think that is fair comment .
But what you say still has to be within the law. The private enterprise hasn't set up a public forum to allow individuals to commit offences. Just because you think the travellers have done so doesn't give you the right to do the same.

If you want to take a chance, that's you're right but the Echo doesn't have to take that chance with you and allow expressions of racial hatred. There are ways of saying what you feel without doing that.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: The Echo is a private enterprise has every right to moderate comments hiw they see fit, if you want to feel your Freedom of Speech Rights are being affected go live in North Korea for a week and see how you get on there speaking out against things you don't like. On most Internet Forums anything worth saying can be said without any worry to your Freedom of Speech the rest is just inciting racial hatred, violence, predjudice or just plain hyperbole. (prepared for a thumbs down pelting)[/p][/quote]IF private enterprise chooses yo accommodate a public forum .then it follows that those that participate are Writing in the spirit of free speech if it offends because it is not what people want to hear but is stated as a true reflection of the individuals passion and beliefs then I think that is fair comment .[/p][/quote]But what you say still has to be within the law. The private enterprise hasn't set up a public forum to allow individuals to commit offences. Just because you think the travellers have done so doesn't give you the right to do the same. If you want to take a chance, that's you're right but the Echo doesn't have to take that chance with you and allow expressions of racial hatred. There are ways of saying what you feel without doing that. Carolyn43
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