£70k benefits fraud: couple jailed after buying lavish holidays and Range Rover at taxpayers’ expense

BEHIND BARS: Nicola Rogers and husband Bryan

BEHIND BARS: Nicola Rogers and husband Bryan

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A COUPLE who claimed years of benefits while enjoying exotic holidays and expensive cars have been jailed.

“Shopaholic” Nicola Rogers and husband Bryan travelled to Egypt and renewed their wedding vows in a lavish ceremony over the course of a six-year fraud, which between them reached a total of almost £69,000.

While the couple, of Poplar Way, Ringwood, had initially began claiming benefits legally, as both were off work, Mr Rogers, 48, then began to work again.

An investigation by the Department of Work and Pensions and New Forest District Council revealed he was employed by three family-owned companies while continuing to claim.

Before they were sentenced at Bournemouth Crown Court on Thursday, Judge John Harrow heard that even while confined to her bed through illness, Mrs Rogers – now 44 – had continued to spend money.

Mitigating, Richard Griffiths admitted that the prosecution had “painted rather a bleak picture”.

“[When they started to claim] Mrs Rogers was really quite unwell,” he said.

“She was extremely overweight, which exacerbated her arthritis, and led to her being bedridden.”

Mrs Rogers’ condition improved when she had gastric band surgery, and over the next few years, the couple jetted around the world on holiday and spent money on scuba diving gear, a Range Rover and a series of sumptuous events, including birthday parties.

“Mrs Rogers has contact with counsellors who assist with spending problems,” Mr Griffiths said.

“It’s going to be a long, difficult road for her, but it is a road, and journey, she has started to take.”

Andrew Evans, prosecuting, said: “Some years, their undeclared income actually doubled their income.”

When investigators caught up with the couple, Mr Evans said: “Mrs Rogers pleaded poverty.

“She said she’d had to buy herself a pair of jeans for just £3, when in fact when had spent over £100 the previous week in Primark.”

In January, Mrs Rogers had taken to Facebook to boast of a holiday at an exclusive ski resort in Mont Blanc.

Mrs Rogers pleaded guilty to three counts under the Theft Act – obtaining money to transfer by deception and two counts of evasion of liability by deception, as well as a single count of fraud under the Fraud Act.

Her husband admitted two counts of evasion of liability by deception.

'CALCULATED DISHONESTY'

Judge Harrow sentenced Mrs Rogers to 14 months behind bars, while Mr Rogers received a nine-month sentence.

He said: “In my judgement, this was deliberate, calculated, prolonged dishonesty.”

He added that their spending, in particular Mrs Rogers’, had been “reckless and unnecessary”, and said: “The bill for state benefit in this country is huge.

“Benefits are for people in need, close to subsistence level, and because of the volume of claimants and need, in many cases, for urgency when making payments, authorities have to invest a large amount of trust in people [to be honest].

“You have both breached that trust.”

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6:50am Fri 18 Apr 14

Nat1234 says...

Scum ,, why can't they just work for there money . I have worked at my job for 35 years , I hate getting up every morning to do my job. ,
But at the end of the day , I've worked for everything I've got . People like that make me sick . Looking at there wedding photos , I bet thet wasn't cheap . And who do you think payed for that . Hard working people that's who . I BET YOU FEEL REALLY PROUD .DONT YOU .. I will say it agin COMPLETE SCUM .....
Scum ,, why can't they just work for there money . I have worked at my job for 35 years , I hate getting up every morning to do my job. , But at the end of the day , I've worked for everything I've got . People like that make me sick . Looking at there wedding photos , I bet thet wasn't cheap . And who do you think payed for that . Hard working people that's who . I BET YOU FEEL REALLY PROUD .DONT YOU .. I will say it agin COMPLETE SCUM ..... Nat1234
  • Score: 168

7:01am Fri 18 Apr 14

alasdair1967 says...

Good ,about time people like this where hit hard ,infuriates me I work all the hours godsends to earn an honest wage ,whilst people like this sit on there backsides do nothing steal from the state and honest tax paying members of society and live the life of Riley,more prosecutions and more jail sentences please
Good ,about time people like this where hit hard ,infuriates me I work all the hours godsends to earn an honest wage ,whilst people like this sit on there backsides do nothing steal from the state and honest tax paying members of society and live the life of Riley,more prosecutions and more jail sentences please alasdair1967
  • Score: 106

7:04am Fri 18 Apr 14

Huey says...

Sooooo...... Will they be made to pay back double what they stole?
Because that would hurt them more than a few months inside which is all they will serve.
Sell the house and cars.
Sooooo...... Will they be made to pay back double what they stole? Because that would hurt them more than a few months inside which is all they will serve. Sell the house and cars. Huey
  • Score: 157

7:08am Fri 18 Apr 14

echor23 says...

Excellent to hear that people like this have been jailed and will pay for their actions. Doesn't happen enough!
Excellent to hear that people like this have been jailed and will pay for their actions. Doesn't happen enough! echor23
  • Score: 100

7:28am Fri 18 Apr 14

bosco1 says...

No doubt they would have carried on till they were caught. An illness is not an excuse to steal.They knew what they were doing from the start. everyone caught should be an automatic double repayment of what they have "STOLEN", im sure there is more people out there living on benefits who are not entitled to them.!! ?
No doubt they would have carried on till they were caught. An illness is not an excuse to steal.They knew what they were doing from the start. everyone caught should be an automatic double repayment of what they have "STOLEN", im sure there is more people out there living on benefits who are not entitled to them.!! ? bosco1
  • Score: 78

7:32am Fri 18 Apr 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

The article says one week she spent £100 in Primark. She really DOES need help if that is living a life of luxury.
The article says one week she spent £100 in Primark. She really DOES need help if that is living a life of luxury. Bonkeydollocks
  • Score: 80

7:40am Fri 18 Apr 14

Nat1234 says...

bosco1 wrote:
No doubt they would have carried on till they were caught. An illness is not an excuse to steal.They knew what they were doing from the start. everyone caught should be an automatic double repayment of what they have "STOLEN", im sure there is more people out there living on benefits who are not entitled to them.!! ?
being fat and overweight is not an illness . It's all down to having no self respect for yourself . It's not to hard to look after yourself . A lot of people have vices . In moderation . But when your that fat . It's down to laziness and self respect . Ok I agree arthritis is an illness but being 20 stone will make that illness 20 times worse .. I know people who have got arthritis but still work ..
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: No doubt they would have carried on till they were caught. An illness is not an excuse to steal.They knew what they were doing from the start. everyone caught should be an automatic double repayment of what they have "STOLEN", im sure there is more people out there living on benefits who are not entitled to them.!! ?[/p][/quote]being fat and overweight is not an illness . It's all down to having no self respect for yourself . It's not to hard to look after yourself . A lot of people have vices . In moderation . But when your that fat . It's down to laziness and self respect . Ok I agree arthritis is an illness but being 20 stone will make that illness 20 times worse .. I know people who have got arthritis but still work .. Nat1234
  • Score: 50

8:01am Fri 18 Apr 14

High Treason says...

Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more.
With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable.
I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.
Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more. With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable. I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees. High Treason
  • Score: 35

8:35am Fri 18 Apr 14

GAHmusic says...

Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way
Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way GAHmusic
  • Score: 38

8:46am Fri 18 Apr 14

marie/maggot says...

and how did she manage to have a gastric band. oh wait....i guess the tax payers paid for that too. She probably only got that fat cos us as the tax payer paid for all the food in her cupboard and lavish meals out. it makes me so angry that people can do such things and then end up paying a minimal penalty. How about paying back every penny they have stolen as well, they will serve there sentence and step back into their lavish home and whay of life as if nothing has happened
and how did she manage to have a gastric band. oh wait....i guess the tax payers paid for that too. She probably only got that fat cos us as the tax payer paid for all the food in her cupboard and lavish meals out. it makes me so angry that people can do such things and then end up paying a minimal penalty. How about paying back every penny they have stolen as well, they will serve there sentence and step back into their lavish home and whay of life as if nothing has happened marie/maggot
  • Score: 40

8:46am Fri 18 Apr 14

Gastines3 says...

Surely with the information available on computer systems today,the regulars on benefits payments can have their spending checked.Every day we read of tens of thousands being milked out of the system by the crooks and scroungers.Can't be too difficult to run a monthly check on the regular payments?.As all the big stores now sell everything required from food to clothing perhaps an Asda voucher instead of cash might be an idea,although I expect some will say their Human Rights allow them M&S or Waitrose!!
Surely with the information available on computer systems today,the regulars on benefits payments can have their spending checked.Every day we read of tens of thousands being milked out of the system by the crooks and scroungers.Can't be too difficult to run a monthly check on the regular payments?.As all the big stores now sell everything required from food to clothing perhaps an Asda voucher instead of cash might be an idea,although I expect some will say their Human Rights allow them M&S or Waitrose!! Gastines3
  • Score: 8

8:47am Fri 18 Apr 14

Morrigan says...

"Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ......

I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property!

Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse.

This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!!
"Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ...... I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property! Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse. This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!! Morrigan
  • Score: 34

8:48am Fri 18 Apr 14

Townee says...

Range Rover would bring in a few bob if sold, that would pay some back. Who said expensive living was buying from Primark?
Range Rover would bring in a few bob if sold, that would pay some back. Who said expensive living was buying from Primark? Townee
  • Score: 20

8:53am Fri 18 Apr 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

GAHmusic wrote:
Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way
Indeed. If you search "Nikki Rogers Ringwood") on FB you can see more. Including where the Echo got the picture of the sorry pair from for their article!
[quote][p][bold]GAHmusic[/bold] wrote: Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way[/p][/quote]Indeed. If you search "Nikki Rogers Ringwood") on FB you can see more. Including where the Echo got the picture of the sorry pair from for their article! Bonkeydollocks
  • Score: 14

8:58am Fri 18 Apr 14

Ms daisy says...

It’s going to be a long, difficult road for her, but it is a road, and journey, she has started to take.”

Oh please, we are suposed to feel sorry for her.
It’s going to be a long, difficult road for her, but it is a road, and journey, she has started to take.” Oh please, we are suposed to feel sorry for her. Ms daisy
  • Score: 25

8:59am Fri 18 Apr 14

Ms daisy says...

It’s going to be a long, difficult road for her, but it is a road, and journey, she has started to take.”

Oh please, we are supposed to feel sorry for her.
It’s going to be a long, difficult road for her, but it is a road, and journey, she has started to take.” Oh please, we are supposed to feel sorry for her. Ms daisy
  • Score: 12

9:13am Fri 18 Apr 14

Nat1234 says...

Morrigan wrote:
"Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ......

I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property!

Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse.

This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!!
I agree with what you say . Apart from you saying subsidised property . Are you some sort of snob . My father fought in the war and worked all his life . And we lived in what you say Subsidised property . Just because you live like that it doesn't mean you are all scrounges . There is many a multi millionaire that are screw the system . YOU ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SNOB . So go back to your payed for 4 bed suburban house . Oh and don't forget to clean the car on Sunday ...
[quote][p][bold]Morrigan[/bold] wrote: "Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ...... I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property! Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse. This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!![/p][/quote]I agree with what you say . Apart from you saying subsidised property . Are you some sort of snob . My father fought in the war and worked all his life . And we lived in what you say Subsidised property . Just because you live like that it doesn't mean you are all scrounges . There is many a multi millionaire that are screw the system . YOU ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SNOB . So go back to your payed for 4 bed suburban house . Oh and don't forget to clean the car on Sunday ... Nat1234
  • Score: -23

9:16am Fri 18 Apr 14

Brock_and_Roll says...

If anyone is bored, have a quick scoot at Google Street View - it is pretty obviously which one is their house by:

1) New Range Rover parked outside
2) Expensive looking building works
3) Leather recliner in front garden

The lovely lady can be see with a hoe in her hand - she might end up holding a hoe when she does (fat) bird, lol!
If anyone is bored, have a quick scoot at Google Street View - it is pretty obviously which one is their house by: 1) New Range Rover parked outside 2) Expensive looking building works 3) Leather recliner in front garden The lovely lady can be see with a hoe in her hand - she might end up holding a hoe when she does (fat) bird, lol! Brock_and_Roll
  • Score: 20

9:22am Fri 18 Apr 14

MMM444 says...

Spent a £100 in Primani, well you would have to look the biz floating around Ringwood in ya gastric band at the wheel of a Range Rover, hope the Range Rover finds a good home.
Spent a £100 in Primani, well you would have to look the biz floating around Ringwood in ya gastric band at the wheel of a Range Rover, hope the Range Rover finds a good home. MMM444
  • Score: 8

9:28am Fri 18 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

Proceeds of crime act.
Confiscation order DWP to get our money back?
Proceeds of crime act. Confiscation order DWP to get our money back? BIGTONE
  • Score: 22

9:46am Fri 18 Apr 14

blakieboy7 says...

If they have kids, it was their responsibility to think about their children before committing their crimes and jeopardising their children. If they had been honest and responsible, this would not have happened. I would also like to see every single stolen penny paid back in full.
If they have kids, it was their responsibility to think about their children before committing their crimes and jeopardising their children. If they had been honest and responsible, this would not have happened. I would also like to see every single stolen penny paid back in full. blakieboy7
  • Score: 37

9:47am Fri 18 Apr 14

BournemouthMum says...

Huey wrote:
Sooooo...... Will they be made to pay back double what they stole?
Because that would hurt them more than a few months inside which is all they will serve.
Sell the house and cars.
I just had a look on Google maps and it looks like a council owned property - so no house to sell. Hopefully they will be made to sell the cars though.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Sooooo...... Will they be made to pay back double what they stole? Because that would hurt them more than a few months inside which is all they will serve. Sell the house and cars.[/p][/quote]I just had a look on Google maps and it looks like a council owned property - so no house to sell. Hopefully they will be made to sell the cars though. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 16

9:52am Fri 18 Apr 14

blakieboy7 says...

If they cannot pay it all back in full then he should be made to pay back in affordable monthly instalments, including interest!!!
If they cannot pay it all back in full then he should be made to pay back in affordable monthly instalments, including interest!!! blakieboy7
  • Score: 21

10:05am Fri 18 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

This is why benefits should be paid in stamps, not in bendy-foldy. It can then be used for what it is claimed for, not on luxuries like expensive cars and holidays.
This is why benefits should be paid in stamps, not in bendy-foldy. It can then be used for what it is claimed for, not on luxuries like expensive cars and holidays. speedy231278
  • Score: 21

10:06am Fri 18 Apr 14

Baysider says...

High Treason wrote:
Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more.
With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable.
I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.
What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more. With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable. I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.[/p][/quote]What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event. Baysider
  • Score: -16

10:07am Fri 18 Apr 14

Plumber64 says...

That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! Plumber64
  • Score: 23

10:12am Fri 18 Apr 14

RM says...

Seize everything they own to repay as much as possible of their ill-gotten gains & make them pay back the reminder in monthly payments while banning them from claiming any further benefits. Lazy, greedy, thieving wasters.
Seize everything they own to repay as much as possible of their ill-gotten gains & make them pay back the reminder in monthly payments while banning them from claiming any further benefits. Lazy, greedy, thieving wasters. RM
  • Score: 23

10:15am Fri 18 Apr 14

Nat1234 says...

Plumber64 wrote:
That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!
well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ...
[quote][p][bold]Plumber64[/bold] wrote: That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ... Nat1234
  • Score: 10

10:18am Fri 18 Apr 14

dailymailreader says...

stop access to any benefits for life and load their tax codes heavily.
stop access to any benefits for life and load their tax codes heavily. dailymailreader
  • Score: 14

10:18am Fri 18 Apr 14

Suedehead says...

Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits.

That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments.
Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits. That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments. Suedehead
  • Score: 3

10:25am Fri 18 Apr 14

BournemouthMum says...

Suedehead wrote:
Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits.

That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments.
Yes he was working, however if he was living on his wages alone (like the rest of us do) they would no way have afforded to buy a range rover or take lavish holidays. Imagine you had an extra £1000+ per month on top of your wages and didn't have to pay rent / mortgage or council tax, you would be able to buy luxuries that you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford wouldn't you?

It's YOU who seems to have ignored part of the story!
[quote][p][bold]Suedehead[/bold] wrote: Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits. That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments.[/p][/quote]Yes he was working, however if he was living on his wages alone (like the rest of us do) they would no way have afforded to buy a range rover or take lavish holidays. Imagine you had an extra £1000+ per month on top of your wages and didn't have to pay rent / mortgage or council tax, you would be able to buy luxuries that you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford wouldn't you? It's YOU who seems to have ignored part of the story! BournemouthMum
  • Score: 17

10:31am Fri 18 Apr 14

Morrigan says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
"Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ......

I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property!

Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse.

This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!!
I agree with what you say . Apart from you saying subsidised property . Are you some sort of snob . My father fought in the war and worked all his life . And we lived in what you say Subsidised property . Just because you live like that it doesn't mean you are all scrounges . There is many a multi millionaire that are screw the system . YOU ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SNOB . So go back to your payed for 4 bed suburban house . Oh and don't forget to clean the car on Sunday ...
hahaaaa! Believe it or not, I also live in a council property - but my point was they should not be subsidised for anything from now on - including their housing!

Calling me a snob is funny ..... I've been called worse things in my time :P
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morrigan[/bold] wrote: "Shopaholic" - to me there is no such thing. It's just a label for a weak person with no self control over their spending - much as she has no self control over her eating ...... I would hope this couple will have their assets seized to pay back some of their theft - the car and any jewellery etc or even their house - although I've no doubt they live in council subsidised property! Sheer greed and no doubt when they come out of jail, it will be straight back on to a life on benefits because of the "trauma" of living in jail or some other weak and pathetic excuse. This is one pair I hope the benefit agency WILL put sanctions on and stop them claiming anything for 10 years. Fat, greedy, selfish people!![/p][/quote]I agree with what you say . Apart from you saying subsidised property . Are you some sort of snob . My father fought in the war and worked all his life . And we lived in what you say Subsidised property . Just because you live like that it doesn't mean you are all scrounges . There is many a multi millionaire that are screw the system . YOU ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SNOB . So go back to your payed for 4 bed suburban house . Oh and don't forget to clean the car on Sunday ...[/p][/quote]hahaaaa! Believe it or not, I also live in a council property - but my point was they should not be subsidised for anything from now on - including their housing! Calling me a snob is funny ..... I've been called worse things in my time :P Morrigan
  • Score: 17

10:35am Fri 18 Apr 14

John T says...

Plumber64 wrote:
That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!
Better still, Plumber64, to compare it with tax fraud and the 'black market , 'cash in hand' economy, where hundreds of millions of tax is evaded, not to mention avoided, every day.
Whilst I in no way agree with this greedy couples behaviour, I am not holding my breath for the Echo to print a similar article on a local million pound tax fraudster.
More chance, methinks, of the Chairman of the Dorset Chamber of Commerce and Industry condemning such a practise in his next regular Echo propaganda article.
[quote][p][bold]Plumber64[/bold] wrote: That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Better still, Plumber64, to compare it with tax fraud and the 'black market , 'cash in hand' economy, where hundreds of millions of tax is evaded, not to mention avoided, every day. Whilst I in no way agree with this greedy couples behaviour, I am not holding my breath for the Echo to print a similar article on a local million pound tax fraudster. More chance, methinks, of the Chairman of the Dorset Chamber of Commerce and Industry condemning such a practise in his next regular Echo propaganda article. John T
  • Score: 20

10:49am Fri 18 Apr 14

Suedehead says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Suedehead wrote:
Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits.

That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments.
Yes he was working, however if he was living on his wages alone (like the rest of us do) they would no way have afforded to buy a range rover or take lavish holidays. Imagine you had an extra £1000+ per month on top of your wages and didn't have to pay rent / mortgage or council tax, you would be able to buy luxuries that you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford wouldn't you?

It's YOU who seems to have ignored part of the story!
No, I am merely saying that SOME of their "lavish" expenditure was probably financed by his earnings. Equally, some of it was not and they are now paying the price.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Suedehead[/bold] wrote: Some people seem to have ignored part of the story. The man was not sitting on his backside doing nothing. He was working while - illegally - also claiming benefits. Judging by the amount spent I assume he was earning a reasonable amount so their expenditure was funded by a combination of his own earnings and benefits. That is not to excuse their behaviour. They broke the law and are now having to pay the price. However, the headline is misleading and has positively invited some of the overblown comments.[/p][/quote]Yes he was working, however if he was living on his wages alone (like the rest of us do) they would no way have afforded to buy a range rover or take lavish holidays. Imagine you had an extra £1000+ per month on top of your wages and didn't have to pay rent / mortgage or council tax, you would be able to buy luxuries that you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford wouldn't you? It's YOU who seems to have ignored part of the story![/p][/quote]No, I am merely saying that SOME of their "lavish" expenditure was probably financed by his earnings. Equally, some of it was not and they are now paying the price. Suedehead
  • Score: 0

10:52am Fri 18 Apr 14

muscliffman says...

High Treason wrote:
Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more.
With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable.
I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.
It does seem easy to milk our welfare system if you are not genuine and know what boxes to tick.

However if you have contributed in to it for many years, been a little sensible in the past and not blown all your earnings, are by reason of your own responsible lifestyle reasonably healthy and don't have plentiful dependant kids you won't qualify for a penny if the hard times visit.

I hope that these scrounger's assets will be seized to cover the fraudulent benefits and legal costs incurred..........bu
t I wouldn't count on it.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more. With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable. I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.[/p][/quote]It does seem easy to milk our welfare system if you are not genuine and know what boxes to tick. However if you have contributed in to it for many years, been a little sensible in the past and not blown all your earnings, are by reason of your own responsible lifestyle reasonably healthy and don't have plentiful dependant kids you won't qualify for a penny if the hard times visit. I hope that these scrounger's assets will be seized to cover the fraudulent benefits and legal costs incurred..........bu t I wouldn't count on it. muscliffman
  • Score: 10

10:59am Fri 18 Apr 14

Azphreal says...

So once again we have someone IN WORK fiddling the benefits system! Why is it always said that someone on benefits are illegally working but not someone in work is illegally claiming benefits? That totally changes the story as then its not against people on benefits (the countries favourite whipping boy at the moment) but showing that 'hardworking tax paying people' (as the antibenefit brigade like to think of themeselves) are ripping the country off.
So once again we have someone IN WORK fiddling the benefits system! Why is it always said that someone on benefits are illegally working but not someone in work is illegally claiming benefits? That totally changes the story as then its not against people on benefits (the countries favourite whipping boy at the moment) but showing that 'hardworking tax paying people' (as the antibenefit brigade like to think of themeselves) are ripping the country off. Azphreal
  • Score: 13

11:02am Fri 18 Apr 14

Minty Fresh says...

There are plenty of low life scum doing exactly the same thing as these two fraudsters. I know of someone who's been on benefits for years claiming for depression, but works every day as a painter and decorator. This imbecile has been reported to the authorities a number of times yet he keeps getting away with it. Why? There should be more people investigating and tougher sentences for those caught.
There are plenty of low life scum doing exactly the same thing as these two fraudsters. I know of someone who's been on benefits for years claiming for depression, but works every day as a painter and decorator. This imbecile has been reported to the authorities a number of times yet he keeps getting away with it. Why? There should be more people investigating and tougher sentences for those caught. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 20

11:22am Fri 18 Apr 14

Ziggy starburst says...

Come on, it was a simple mistake. They should pay back a little bit (10%) and apologise. In the same breath say they did nothing wrong. Works for MPs, the worst benefit cheats in the country.
Come on, it was a simple mistake. They should pay back a little bit (10%) and apologise. In the same breath say they did nothing wrong. Works for MPs, the worst benefit cheats in the country. Ziggy starburst
  • Score: 3

11:22am Fri 18 Apr 14

Nat1234 says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
There are plenty of low life scum doing exactly the same thing as these two fraudsters. I know of someone who's been on benefits for years claiming for depression, but works every day as a painter and decorator. This imbecile has been reported to the authorities a number of times yet he keeps getting away with it. Why? There should be more people investigating and tougher sentences for those caught.
Take pictures .. A camera never lies ...
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: There are plenty of low life scum doing exactly the same thing as these two fraudsters. I know of someone who's been on benefits for years claiming for depression, but works every day as a painter and decorator. This imbecile has been reported to the authorities a number of times yet he keeps getting away with it. Why? There should be more people investigating and tougher sentences for those caught.[/p][/quote]Take pictures .. A camera never lies ... Nat1234
  • Score: 9

11:24am Fri 18 Apr 14

stevobath says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Plumber64 wrote:
That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!
well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ...
Well getting a mortgage for a 2nd home seems like a subsidy to me, although I'm sure MPs call it something else?

We expect people to live by the law yet look to Westminster & the crock in control.... ?
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plumber64[/bold] wrote: That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ...[/p][/quote]Well getting a mortgage for a 2nd home seems like a subsidy to me, although I'm sure MPs call it something else? We expect people to live by the law yet look to Westminster & the crock in control.... ? stevobath
  • Score: 9

11:48am Fri 18 Apr 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

Bonkeydollocks wrote:
GAHmusic wrote:
Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way
Indeed. If you search "Nikki Rogers Ringwood") on FB you can see more. Including where the Echo got the picture of the sorry pair from for their article!
Nikki Rogers FB profile now been removed. Oh the shame eh?
[quote][p][bold]Bonkeydollocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GAHmusic[/bold] wrote: Who would have thought facebooks biggest contribution would have been giving dum crooks a platform to show off and incriminate themselves. You would be amazed at how many people are caught this way[/p][/quote]Indeed. If you search "Nikki Rogers Ringwood") on FB you can see more. Including where the Echo got the picture of the sorry pair from for their article![/p][/quote]Nikki Rogers FB profile now been removed. Oh the shame eh? Bonkeydollocks
  • Score: 6

11:51am Fri 18 Apr 14

Ruderemark says...

Minty Fresh,
"A camera never lies"
Ever heard of Photoshop?
Minty Fresh, "A camera never lies" Ever heard of Photoshop? Ruderemark
  • Score: 4

11:53am Fri 18 Apr 14

GAHmusic says...

Azphreal wrote:
So once again we have someone IN WORK fiddling the benefits system! Why is it always said that someone on benefits are illegally working but not someone in work is illegally claiming benefits? That totally changes the story as then its not against people on benefits (the countries favourite whipping boy at the moment) but showing that 'hardworking tax paying people' (as the antibenefit brigade like to think of themeselves) are ripping the country off.
That's a very good point.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: So once again we have someone IN WORK fiddling the benefits system! Why is it always said that someone on benefits are illegally working but not someone in work is illegally claiming benefits? That totally changes the story as then its not against people on benefits (the countries favourite whipping boy at the moment) but showing that 'hardworking tax paying people' (as the antibenefit brigade like to think of themeselves) are ripping the country off.[/p][/quote]That's a very good point. GAHmusic
  • Score: 2

11:56am Fri 18 Apr 14

kinsonjim says...

I WAS EXPECTING NUMBER 1661 TO BE DENOUNCED???
I WAS EXPECTING NUMBER 1661 TO BE DENOUNCED??? kinsonjim
  • Score: 1

12:03pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Macaque says...

Instead of having gastric band surgery on the NHS I would recommend a diet that works! Get up early every day, have a cup of coffe/tea, rush to work, work, quick lunch, work again, then cook a quick dinner as you're too tired to cook a three course meal in the evenings! And do it 5 times a week! It works!
Instead of having gastric band surgery on the NHS I would recommend a diet that works! Get up early every day, have a cup of coffe/tea, rush to work, work, quick lunch, work again, then cook a quick dinner as you're too tired to cook a three course meal in the evenings! And do it 5 times a week! It works! Macaque
  • Score: 7

12:13pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Ken Budd says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Good ,about time people like this where hit hard ,infuriates me I work all the hours godsends to earn an honest wage ,whilst people like this sit on there backsides do nothing steal from the state and honest tax paying members of society and live the life of Riley,more prosecutions and more jail sentences please
I don't think 9 months and 14 months are particularly hard, on the contrary they were let off pretty lightly, maybe crime does pay...
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Good ,about time people like this where hit hard ,infuriates me I work all the hours godsends to earn an honest wage ,whilst people like this sit on there backsides do nothing steal from the state and honest tax paying members of society and live the life of Riley,more prosecutions and more jail sentences please[/p][/quote]I don't think 9 months and 14 months are particularly hard, on the contrary they were let off pretty lightly, maybe crime does pay... Ken Budd
  • Score: 8

12:14pm Fri 18 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Plumber64 wrote:
That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!
well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ...
"an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing".

Who pays for their second home? You know, the ones they do up at tax payers expense so they can sell it for a vast profit.. Then it's wash, rinse, repeat.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plumber64[/bold] wrote: That's very interesting if you compare this to the MP scandal and the money concerned . Both taking money without consent but are the sentences they Same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]well said , it's because an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing . And as for someone looking on google maps to see where they live HOW SAD IS THAT ...[/p][/quote]"an MP doesn't live in subsidise housing". Who pays for their second home? You know, the ones they do up at tax payers expense so they can sell it for a vast profit.. Then it's wash, rinse, repeat. breamoreboy
  • Score: 10

12:18pm Fri 18 Apr 14

chris100 says...

That's nothing
I know a couple who run there ow business which is 100% cash and no tax ect is paid he claims disability for a nackered back and he has a disability car but he can lift stuff ok and walk fine ect
she is from abroad and is her on a visa saying she is his career
On her face book page is pics of 5 star holidays

they have been reported yet nothing had been done ????
That's nothing I know a couple who run there ow business which is 100% cash and no tax ect is paid he claims disability for a nackered back and he has a disability car but he can lift stuff ok and walk fine ect she is from abroad and is her on a visa saying she is his career On her face book page is pics of 5 star holidays they have been reported yet nothing had been done ???? chris100
  • Score: 3

12:29pm Fri 18 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Gastines3 wrote:
Surely with the information available on computer systems today,the regulars on benefits payments can have their spending checked.Every day we read of tens of thousands being milked out of the system by the crooks and scroungers.Can't be too difficult to run a monthly check on the regular payments?.As all the big stores now sell everything required from food to clothing perhaps an Asda voucher instead of cash might be an idea,although I expect some will say their Human Rights allow them M&S or Waitrose!!
Where does the Data Protection Act fit into this? Or are you saying that all government agencies should have automatics access to any data they like, which is exactly what the GCHQ and NSA have been doing, albeit illegally, anyway?
[quote][p][bold]Gastines3[/bold] wrote: Surely with the information available on computer systems today,the regulars on benefits payments can have their spending checked.Every day we read of tens of thousands being milked out of the system by the crooks and scroungers.Can't be too difficult to run a monthly check on the regular payments?.As all the big stores now sell everything required from food to clothing perhaps an Asda voucher instead of cash might be an idea,although I expect some will say their Human Rights allow them M&S or Waitrose!![/p][/quote]Where does the Data Protection Act fit into this? Or are you saying that all government agencies should have automatics access to any data they like, which is exactly what the GCHQ and NSA have been doing, albeit illegally, anyway? breamoreboy
  • Score: 3

1:02pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Baysider says...

Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more.
With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable.
I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.
What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event.
I guess the UKIP supporters on here are giving me their usual thumbs down rather than try explaining what this story has got to do with immigration then...oh well.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more. With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable. I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.[/p][/quote]What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event.[/p][/quote]I guess the UKIP supporters on here are giving me their usual thumbs down rather than try explaining what this story has got to do with immigration then...oh well. Baysider
  • Score: 2

1:42pm Fri 18 Apr 14

M0Z says...

Doing porridge instead of porky pies seems well overdue.
Doing porridge instead of porky pies seems well overdue. M0Z
  • Score: 7

3:35pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Diesel Dog says...

We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required.

Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension.
We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required. Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension. Diesel Dog
  • Score: -7

3:41pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Baysider says...

Diesel Dog wrote:
We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required.

Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension.
Classy. Let's use the deaths of hundreds of innocent people to make a point eh...
[quote][p][bold]Diesel Dog[/bold] wrote: We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required. Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension.[/p][/quote]Classy. Let's use the deaths of hundreds of innocent people to make a point eh... Baysider
  • Score: 8

4:08pm Fri 18 Apr 14

nickynoodah says...

Just think of the under arm sweat and the diapers below soaking it all up, the smell must be toxic I hope they isolate these two from others doing bird,
would lay odds of 100 to 30 they make nobath smell like a bunch of freshly picked roses, no wonder the sewers up north (Ringwood) are always getting blocked and the womens thighs stick together..
Just think of the under arm sweat and the diapers below soaking it all up, the smell must be toxic I hope they isolate these two from others doing bird, would lay odds of 100 to 30 they make nobath smell like a bunch of freshly picked roses, no wonder the sewers up north (Ringwood) are always getting blocked and the womens thighs stick together.. nickynoodah
  • Score: -10

5:04pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Tango Charlie says...

While not condoning theft from the public purse the case has me puzzled.
£69,000 over 6 years is £11,500 per year or £5,750 each per year.
If this sometimes doubled his yearly income then he earned mostly £2,875 per year.
If you add that to what he claimed then it is only £8,625 per year.
Hardly a living wage!
Even with the fraud, how an earth did they afford it?
While not condoning theft from the public purse the case has me puzzled. £69,000 over 6 years is £11,500 per year or £5,750 each per year. If this sometimes doubled his yearly income then he earned mostly £2,875 per year. If you add that to what he claimed then it is only £8,625 per year. Hardly a living wage! Even with the fraud, how an earth did they afford it? Tango Charlie
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Fri 18 Apr 14

MrPitiful says...

Tango Charlie wrote:
While not condoning theft from the public purse the case has me puzzled.
£69,000 over 6 years is £11,500 per year or £5,750 each per year.
If this sometimes doubled his yearly income then he earned mostly £2,875 per year.
If you add that to what he claimed then it is only £8,625 per year.
Hardly a living wage!
Even with the fraud, how an earth did they afford it?
This is purely because this paper along with many others will only report the bare bones - probably about 5-10% of the whole story - and only the bits that will turn people's heads. There is probably a lot more to the defence of the couple than what has been reported and also a lot more facts and figures which have been ignored as you have rightly worked out.

I am not defending this couple in any way - what they have done is wrong, illegal and seemingly they did it intentionally. Now they have to face the consequences and rightly so.

It is a shame for them though that they can't just stand on national TV infront of their colleagues, friends and neighbours and issue a 30 second spoken apology by way of recourse. Then they could sell their house for a vast profit and carry on as usual, as if nothing ever happened.

That sort of thing doesn't happen in the real world though does it?
[quote][p][bold]Tango Charlie[/bold] wrote: While not condoning theft from the public purse the case has me puzzled. £69,000 over 6 years is £11,500 per year or £5,750 each per year. If this sometimes doubled his yearly income then he earned mostly £2,875 per year. If you add that to what he claimed then it is only £8,625 per year. Hardly a living wage! Even with the fraud, how an earth did they afford it?[/p][/quote]This is purely because this paper along with many others will only report the bare bones - probably about 5-10% of the whole story - and only the bits that will turn people's heads. There is probably a lot more to the defence of the couple than what has been reported and also a lot more facts and figures which have been ignored as you have rightly worked out. I am not defending this couple in any way - what they have done is wrong, illegal and seemingly they did it intentionally. Now they have to face the consequences and rightly so. It is a shame for them though that they can't just stand on national TV infront of their colleagues, friends and neighbours and issue a 30 second spoken apology by way of recourse. Then they could sell their house for a vast profit and carry on as usual, as if nothing ever happened. That sort of thing doesn't happen in the real world though does it? MrPitiful
  • Score: 8

5:26pm Fri 18 Apr 14

stevobath says...

Diesel Dog wrote:
We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required.

Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension.
There are lots of scum. People who make cheap 'points' using tragic deaths are one such scum.

Pathetic & low.
[quote][p][bold]Diesel Dog[/bold] wrote: We need more flights to holiday destinations loaded with dole scrounging scum promising £ 2000 spending money dished out at the arrival airport that just disappear without trace, a bit like flight MH370 No expensive search programme required. Then the people who have contributed to society will be rewarded with a bigger pension.[/p][/quote]There are lots of scum. People who make cheap 'points' using tragic deaths are one such scum. Pathetic & low. stevobath
  • Score: 1

5:50pm Fri 18 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Baysider wrote:
Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more.
With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable.
I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.
What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event.
I guess the UKIP supporters on here are giving me their usual thumbs down rather than try explaining what this story has got to do with immigration then...oh well.
I'm with UKIP, no immigration, send the whole **** lot back home to where they came from. Start with those from London and the South East, then East Anglia, The Midlands, The North, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and then concentrate on the rest of the world. Freedom for Wessex!!!
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just part of an easy to milk system. Fiddles right across the board. From cash in hand work, single occupancy council tax, disabled claims and loads more. With more and more making claims many from immigrants to add to the burden, it is only a matter of time before the whole set up becomes unaffordable. I pity the single tax payer, has to live with parents, housing to expensive, pays a fortune in tax and NI simply to subsidise others. If they want to better themselves they get ripped of with university fees.[/p][/quote]What has immigration got to do with this story? Why do UKIP supporters have to raise it at every single opportunity regardless of the actual event.[/p][/quote]I guess the UKIP supporters on here are giving me their usual thumbs down rather than try explaining what this story has got to do with immigration then...oh well.[/p][/quote]I'm with UKIP, no immigration, send the whole **** lot back home to where they came from. Start with those from London and the South East, then East Anglia, The Midlands, The North, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and then concentrate on the rest of the world. Freedom for Wessex!!! breamoreboy
  • Score: -3

7:45pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Tango Charlie says...

RM wrote:
Seize everything they own to repay as much as possible of their ill-gotten gains & make them pay back the reminder in monthly payments while banning them from claiming any further benefits. Lazy, greedy, thieving wasters.
I agree, but we did vote them in.. Oh, you are talking about the story, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]RM[/bold] wrote: Seize everything they own to repay as much as possible of their ill-gotten gains & make them pay back the reminder in monthly payments while banning them from claiming any further benefits. Lazy, greedy, thieving wasters.[/p][/quote]I agree, but we did vote them in.. Oh, you are talking about the story, sorry. Tango Charlie
  • Score: 8

11:13am Sat 19 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

A swathe of 9 posts axed.....
A swathe of 9 posts axed..... BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Sat 19 Apr 14

blakieboy7 says...

wouldn't it be great if all prisoners were made to pay for their prison time to ease the burden on tax payers. It might even change attitudes, who know. If Carlsberg did prison sentences!!!
wouldn't it be great if all prisoners were made to pay for their prison time to ease the burden on tax payers. It might even change attitudes, who know. If Carlsberg did prison sentences!!! blakieboy7
  • Score: 1

12:44am Tue 22 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

blakieboy7 wrote:
wouldn't it be great if all prisoners were made to pay for their prison time to ease the burden on tax payers. It might even change attitudes, who know. If Carlsberg did prison sentences!!!
Hardly a burden, I believe it's only £200 per prisoner per day. Did I say only?
[quote][p][bold]blakieboy7[/bold] wrote: wouldn't it be great if all prisoners were made to pay for their prison time to ease the burden on tax payers. It might even change attitudes, who know. If Carlsberg did prison sentences!!![/p][/quote]Hardly a burden, I believe it's only £200 per prisoner per day. Did I say only? breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

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