£1.5m fees row: Bournemouth council taking legal action against Borough of Poole over care home provision

PROVISION CLAIM: Bournemouth council is taking legal action over the cost of caring for seven Poole residents

UNNECESSARY: Poole council's head of legal and democratic services Tim Martin

RULING: Health secretary Jeremy Hunt

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BOURNEMOUTH council is taking legal action against its neighbour Poole, claiming it is owed over £1.5million in care home fees.

It has lodged a claim with the High Court seeking a total of £1,515,903 plus interest of £121,272.00 from the Borough of Poole – and wants additional interest of £332.25 for every day the debt remains unpaid.

The money represents the amount Bournemouth council has spent providing residential care for a total of eight people who, it has recently been decided, were Poole residents.

The issue of which local authority should take total responsibility for these service users was referred to the Secretary of State for Health Jeremy Hunt last November.

He ruled that all eight people – one of whom died in September 2011 – had previously acquired residency in Poole.

The Borough of Poole agreed to start funding the care of the seven surviving people from the date of Mr Hunt’s ruling but has refused to refund the money Bournemouth has spent on their care in previous years.

Bournemouth council sent a request for payment plus interest to the Borough of Poole in January but said it resorted to legal action after receiving no response.

However, Poole council has confirmed it will be defending the claim, which it says is “premature and unnecessary”.

Tim Martin, head of legal and democratic services, Borough of Poole, said: “Throughout this case, the priority for Borough of Poole has been ensuring minimal disruption, and the continued care provision, to those residents affected.

“We believe these proceedings are unnecessary and have been brought prematurely.

“We were keen to meet with Bournemouth Borough Council to resolve the outstanding financial issues without adding further legal costs but this offer has not been taken up. Court proceedings have been issued and we will be defending the claim that has been made and hope that we can resolve this matter quickly.”

Andy Sharp, service director for Adult Social Care, said: “Bournemouth Borough Council has been in discussion with Poole Borough Council for some years in relation to eight customers who had been funded by Bournemouth but are resident within the Poole area.

“Following a determination by the Secretary of State that these customers are ordinarily resident in Poole, we are seeking to recover the costs associated with the delivery of support to these customers and we have issued proceedings to this effect.”

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8:57am Fri 14 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

Presumably if Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch were a single authority this just wouldn't be happening?
Presumably if Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch were a single authority this just wouldn't be happening? The-Bleeding-Obvious
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9:55am Fri 14 Mar 14

rayc says...

No surprises here. It took them years to agree that the residents of each Borough could use each others rubbish tips. Even now as a resident of East Dorset I need a permit to use a Poole tip. It's madness but what you expect from Councils.
No surprises here. It took them years to agree that the residents of each Borough could use each others rubbish tips. Even now as a resident of East Dorset I need a permit to use a Poole tip. It's madness but what you expect from Councils. rayc
  • Score: 2

10:10am Fri 14 Mar 14

Marcus James says...

I wish i could have a £1.5m overdraft for £332.25 per day
Both councils waste as much money as each other, this just goes to show they cant even talk to each other
I wish i could have a £1.5m overdraft for £332.25 per day Both councils waste as much money as each other, this just goes to show they cant even talk to each other Marcus James
  • Score: 7

11:47am Fri 14 Mar 14

BmthNewshound says...

This just demonstrates the contempt with which Bournemouth Council treat taxpayers money that whilst Poole are keen to resolve the matter without resorting to expensive legal action Bournemouth prefer to line the pockets of lawyers.
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Its becoming increasingly common for Bournemouth Council's default position in any dispute is to instruct lawyers. Just what is the relationship between Beesley's Council and the Boroughs solicitors ?
This just demonstrates the contempt with which Bournemouth Council treat taxpayers money that whilst Poole are keen to resolve the matter without resorting to expensive legal action Bournemouth prefer to line the pockets of lawyers. . Its becoming increasingly common for Bournemouth Council's default position in any dispute is to instruct lawyers. Just what is the relationship between Beesley's Council and the Boroughs solicitors ? BmthNewshound
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1:27pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Dibbles2 says...

rayc wrote:
No surprises here. It took them years to agree that the residents of each Borough could use each others rubbish tips. Even now as a resident of East Dorset I need a permit to use a Poole tip. It's madness but what you expect from Councils.
What are you talking about? Poole residents are not allowed to use Bournemouth tips even thought its on our doorstep so why on earth would you need to use it if you live in east Dorset? You have your own facilities and trust me they are much better than ours!
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: No surprises here. It took them years to agree that the residents of each Borough could use each others rubbish tips. Even now as a resident of East Dorset I need a permit to use a Poole tip. It's madness but what you expect from Councils.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? Poole residents are not allowed to use Bournemouth tips even thought its on our doorstep so why on earth would you need to use it if you live in east Dorset? You have your own facilities and trust me they are much better than ours! Dibbles2
  • Score: 1

2:03pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Isosceles says...

Never mind, whatever the outcome, taxpayers will foot the bill!
Never mind, whatever the outcome, taxpayers will foot the bill! Isosceles
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4:07pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

How has the council managed to run up a bill of £1.5m for 8 people?????
How has the council managed to run up a bill of £1.5m for 8 people????? Jo__Go
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9:05pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Hobad1 says...

£1.5m ? Crikey that must be more than councillor elaine atkinsons "Jaffa Cake" budget for a year.
£1.5m ? Crikey that must be more than councillor elaine atkinsons "Jaffa Cake" budget for a year. Hobad1
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10:32pm Fri 14 Mar 14

60plus says...

Since when has residents become customers?
Since when has residents become customers? 60plus
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11:27am Mon 17 Mar 14

rozmister says...

Jo__Go wrote:
How has the council managed to run up a bill of £1.5m for 8 people?????
24 hour specialist care for someone and all the housing costs, etc that comes with it? Have you any idea how expensive care homes are per week? If you had 8 people and this had dragged on for years going through the courts it could easily cost 1.5million.
[quote][p][bold]Jo__Go[/bold] wrote: How has the council managed to run up a bill of £1.5m for 8 people?????[/p][/quote]24 hour specialist care for someone and all the housing costs, etc that comes with it? Have you any idea how expensive care homes are per week? If you had 8 people and this had dragged on for years going through the courts it could easily cost 1.5million. rozmister
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