Cow had to be humanely destroyed by agisters - debris at scene indicates dark grey BMW involved

File pic: Part of the campaign to warn drivers to slow down in New Forest

File pic: Part of the campaign to warn drivers to slow down in New Forest

First published in News

REWARDS totalling £1,500 are being offered for information leading to the conviction of a hit-and-run driver who left a pregnant cow writhing in agony.

One of the rewards is being put up by the cow’s owner, who is seeking justice after the animal was badly injured by a BMW that sped off following the accident in the New Forest.

It follows an incident in another part of the Forest in which a pregnant donkey was also killed in a hit-and-run crash.

The cow, six-year-old Blackie, did not die instantly and had to be humanely destroyed by Mike Lovell, one of the New Forest Agisters.

Mr Lovell said: “The cow was still alive when I got there about 10-15 minutes after the collision.

“She was lying in the middle of the road and there was blood everywhere. It was one of the worst accidents I’ve ever been to.”

Blackie was on the Hill Top to Ipers Bridge road on Tuesday night when she was hit by a car thought to have been flouting the 40mph speed limit.

She was owned by New Forest Commoner Len Mansbridge, of Blackfield.

His partner, who did not want to be named, said: “People who drive like that deserve to break their neck. And anyone who leaves an animal writhing in agony is beneath contempt.”

Sue Westwood, clerk to the Verderers, added: “Debris found at the scene indicates that a dark grey BMW was involved.

“A £500 reward is being offered by cow’s owner for information leading to the conviction of the driver. That’s in addition to the reward of up to £1,000 offered under the Verderers’ reward scheme.”

Anyone with information about either incident should call Miss Westwood on 023 8028 2052 or e-mail .

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8:15am Fri 7 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone? hooplaa
  • Score: 7

8:28am Fri 7 Mar 14

boardsandphotos says...

I have to admit if I were to hit a large animal like a donkey or a cow i'm not totally sure who you are supposed to call but I guess I would call the police. Although with my current network provider that might be easier said than done!

What I do know is that I could never leave an animal dying on the side of the road like that. I just wouldn't be able to get in my car and drive away.
I have to admit if I were to hit a large animal like a donkey or a cow i'm not totally sure who you are supposed to call but I guess I would call the police. Although with my current network provider that might be easier said than done! What I do know is that I could never leave an animal dying on the side of the road like that. I just wouldn't be able to get in my car and drive away. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 15

8:34am Fri 7 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

With all the cycling events going ahead in the New Forest that sign needs to say 'Ponies and cyclists don't dent THEY DIE'.
With all the cycling events going ahead in the New Forest that sign needs to say 'Ponies and cyclists don't dent THEY DIE'. The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 3

8:53am Fri 7 Mar 14

Franks Tank says...

I wonder how many forest animals will be killed by the 2500 cyclists due to ride the Wiggle Sportive in the middle of April.
My guess is zero.
I wonder how many forest animals will be killed by the 2500 cyclists due to ride the Wiggle Sportive in the middle of April. My guess is zero. Franks Tank
  • Score: 13

9:19am Fri 7 Mar 14

ranger_bob says...

Franks Tank wrote:
I wonder how many forest animals will be killed by the 2500 cyclists due to ride the Wiggle Sportive in the middle of April.
My guess is zero.
The cyclist is more likely to be hurt than the cow I reckon!
[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many forest animals will be killed by the 2500 cyclists due to ride the Wiggle Sportive in the middle of April. My guess is zero.[/p][/quote]The cyclist is more likely to be hurt than the cow I reckon! ranger_bob
  • Score: 9

9:19am Fri 7 Mar 14

goatty says...

Some pretty stupid comments posted on here already from the animals don't matter brigade.
It is a 40mph limit for a reason. Animals are on the road day and night and yet I travel across the Forest roads everyday and am constantly overtaken by morons doing at least 60-70mph.
I have asked the police and council what are they going to do about it and both shrug there shoulders. I have never seen speed patrols on the Godshill Rd and no cameras or nothing yet this is the local racetrack. Once you get to the Motorway it is littered with patrol cars both marked and unmarked!
Some pretty stupid comments posted on here already from the animals don't matter brigade. It is a 40mph limit for a reason. Animals are on the road day and night and yet I travel across the Forest roads everyday and am constantly overtaken by morons doing at least 60-70mph. I have asked the police and council what are they going to do about it and both shrug there shoulders. I have never seen speed patrols on the Godshill Rd and no cameras or nothing yet this is the local racetrack. Once you get to the Motorway it is littered with patrol cars both marked and unmarked! goatty
  • Score: 21

9:22am Fri 7 Mar 14

goatty says...

hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
Didn't know what to do!!!!! You stop after an accident and not levee some poor animal in a pool of blood in the middle of the road. This moron should be treated the same way as he if hit and person and left the scene. Nothing different. Ban this moron for driving for 3 years and a hefty fine and send out a message LOUD & CLEAR to all the morons who drive like lunatics in the Forest
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]Didn't know what to do!!!!! You stop after an accident and not levee some poor animal in a pool of blood in the middle of the road. This moron should be treated the same way as he if hit and person and left the scene. Nothing different. Ban this moron for driving for 3 years and a hefty fine and send out a message LOUD & CLEAR to all the morons who drive like lunatics in the Forest goatty
  • Score: 8

9:30am Fri 7 Mar 14

MotorbikeSam says...

hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse ....
It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving ..
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse .... It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving .. MotorbikeSam
  • Score: 5

9:59am Fri 7 Mar 14

BarrHumbug says...

What reason would you have not to stop? Speeding is no reason not to stop and report it, after all without actual proof it would be hard to convict them for it? No its more likely due to no insurance, no tax, banned from driving or drunk behind the wheel?
What reason would you have not to stop? Speeding is no reason not to stop and report it, after all without actual proof it would be hard to convict them for it? No its more likely due to no insurance, no tax, banned from driving or drunk behind the wheel? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 10

10:13am Fri 7 Mar 14

speedy231278 says...

That's a very odd looking cow on the road sign, and I'm pretty sure ponies aren't cows either.....
That's a very odd looking cow on the road sign, and I'm pretty sure ponies aren't cows either..... speedy231278
  • Score: -3

10:20am Fri 7 Mar 14

speedy231278 says...

So, without any evidence whatsoever, we hear that this car was definitely speedy, and 'sped off' from the scene. There is no excuse for not stopping, or at least in the case of having no phone reception, reporting the incident from the nearest possible point. However, accusations of speeding, and speeding off from the scene are unfounded until proven otherwise. The car may well have been travelling at or inside the speed limit, and the unfortunate cow may have bolted across the road. Contrary to other highly uninformed opinions, they can actually move pretty quickly if they wish to. Once again, everyone here appears to have been at the scene, so presumably they know who did it?
So, without any evidence whatsoever, we hear that this car was definitely speedy, and 'sped off' from the scene. There is no excuse for not stopping, or at least in the case of having no phone reception, reporting the incident from the nearest possible point. However, accusations of speeding, and speeding off from the scene are unfounded until proven otherwise. The car may well have been travelling at or inside the speed limit, and the unfortunate cow may have bolted across the road. Contrary to other highly uninformed opinions, they can actually move pretty quickly if they wish to. Once again, everyone here appears to have been at the scene, so presumably they know who did it? speedy231278
  • Score: 1

10:27am Fri 7 Mar 14

Hessenford says...

goatty wrote:
hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
Didn't know what to do!!!!! You stop after an accident and not levee some poor animal in a pool of blood in the middle of the road. This moron should be treated the same way as he if hit and person and left the scene. Nothing different. Ban this moron for driving for 3 years and a hefty fine and send out a message LOUD & CLEAR to all the morons who drive like lunatics in the Forest
There's no accusation or evidence that the driver who did this was speeding so why call for a 3 year driving ban, at the moment all he should be prosecuted with is leaving the scene of an accident.
Yes he or she is a moron, but a speeding driver, please supply evidence before throwing accusations about.
Apart for the morale obligation is it against the law not to report an accident of this kind.
I would have thought the car will be a mess so it shouldn't be long before they find the idiot who did this
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]Didn't know what to do!!!!! You stop after an accident and not levee some poor animal in a pool of blood in the middle of the road. This moron should be treated the same way as he if hit and person and left the scene. Nothing different. Ban this moron for driving for 3 years and a hefty fine and send out a message LOUD & CLEAR to all the morons who drive like lunatics in the Forest[/p][/quote]There's no accusation or evidence that the driver who did this was speeding so why call for a 3 year driving ban, at the moment all he should be prosecuted with is leaving the scene of an accident. Yes he or she is a moron, but a speeding driver, please supply evidence before throwing accusations about. Apart for the morale obligation is it against the law not to report an accident of this kind. I would have thought the car will be a mess so it shouldn't be long before they find the idiot who did this Hessenford
  • Score: 9

10:51am Fri 7 Mar 14

RM says...

speedy231278 wrote:
So, without any evidence whatsoever, we hear that this car was definitely speedy, and 'sped off' from the scene. There is no excuse for not stopping, or at least in the case of having no phone reception, reporting the incident from the nearest possible point. However, accusations of speeding, and speeding off from the scene are unfounded until proven otherwise. The car may well have been travelling at or inside the speed limit, and the unfortunate cow may have bolted across the road. Contrary to other highly uninformed opinions, they can actually move pretty quickly if they wish to. Once again, everyone here appears to have been at the scene, so presumably they know who did it?
I guess the assumption is that if the car had been travelling within the speed limit there wouldn't be bits of BMW scattered across the road. Unfortunately the police in the Forest have a lot of experience in the aftermath of speeding motorists. POS leaving an injured animal to die like that. Hope s/he is caught & gets the maximum penalty possible.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: So, without any evidence whatsoever, we hear that this car was definitely speedy, and 'sped off' from the scene. There is no excuse for not stopping, or at least in the case of having no phone reception, reporting the incident from the nearest possible point. However, accusations of speeding, and speeding off from the scene are unfounded until proven otherwise. The car may well have been travelling at or inside the speed limit, and the unfortunate cow may have bolted across the road. Contrary to other highly uninformed opinions, they can actually move pretty quickly if they wish to. Once again, everyone here appears to have been at the scene, so presumably they know who did it?[/p][/quote]I guess the assumption is that if the car had been travelling within the speed limit there wouldn't be bits of BMW scattered across the road. Unfortunately the police in the Forest have a lot of experience in the aftermath of speeding motorists. POS leaving an injured animal to die like that. Hope s/he is caught & gets the maximum penalty possible. RM
  • Score: 1

11:24am Fri 7 Mar 14

saynomore says...

hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment.
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment. saynomore
  • Score: -10

12:05pm Fri 7 Mar 14

nickynoodah says...

Hang on
we all know who drives at break neck speed don't we now
I guessed it was him when I first saw the headlines you know.
he shouldn't get behind the wheel when he's worked himself up like he does.
Hang on we all know who drives at break neck speed don't we now I guessed it was him when I first saw the headlines you know. he shouldn't get behind the wheel when he's worked himself up like he does. nickynoodah
  • Score: 5

12:12pm Fri 7 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

saynomore wrote:
hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment.
read it - Debris found at the scene indicates that a dark grey BMW was involved

Idiot
[quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment.[/p][/quote]read it - Debris found at the scene indicates that a dark grey BMW was involved Idiot hooplaa
  • Score: 14

12:16pm Fri 7 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse ....
It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving ..
i drive a BMW and drive within the speed limits... no evidence at all to suggest speed was involved.
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse .... It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving ..[/p][/quote]i drive a BMW and drive within the speed limits... no evidence at all to suggest speed was involved. hooplaa
  • Score: 6

1:00pm Fri 7 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

goatty wrote:
Some pretty stupid comments posted on here already from the animals don't matter brigade.
It is a 40mph limit for a reason. Animals are on the road day and night and yet I travel across the Forest roads everyday and am constantly overtaken by morons doing at least 60-70mph.
I have asked the police and council what are they going to do about it and both shrug there shoulders. I have never seen speed patrols on the Godshill Rd and no cameras or nothing yet this is the local racetrack. Once you get to the Motorway it is littered with patrol cars both marked and unmarked!
By the way i have animals and do care about them so again you are automatically assuming (like you did about the speed of the car) some of the comments are from animal haters.
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: Some pretty stupid comments posted on here already from the animals don't matter brigade. It is a 40mph limit for a reason. Animals are on the road day and night and yet I travel across the Forest roads everyday and am constantly overtaken by morons doing at least 60-70mph. I have asked the police and council what are they going to do about it and both shrug there shoulders. I have never seen speed patrols on the Godshill Rd and no cameras or nothing yet this is the local racetrack. Once you get to the Motorway it is littered with patrol cars both marked and unmarked![/p][/quote]By the way i have animals and do care about them so again you are automatically assuming (like you did about the speed of the car) some of the comments are from animal haters. hooplaa
  • Score: 1

1:18pm Fri 7 Mar 14

afcb72 says...

hooplaa wrote:
saynomore wrote:
hooplaa wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment.
read it - Debris found at the scene indicates that a dark grey BMW was involved Idiot
So, you really answered your own question here...
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]Obviously someone saw the accident otherwise how would it be known that it was a BMW I am sure the cow didn't say it.So there will be evidence,stupid comment.[/p][/quote]read it - Debris found at the scene indicates that a dark grey BMW was involved Idiot[/p][/quote]So, you really answered your own question here... afcb72
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Fri 7 Mar 14

nickynoodah says...

Hang on the diver was listening to 90mph moosic no doubt
Hang on the diver was listening to 90mph moosic no doubt nickynoodah
  • Score: -5

3:06pm Fri 7 Mar 14

60plus says...

Very sorry about the cow but if the farmer cares so much for his animals shouldn't they be fenced in? fields are for animals roads for cars,
Very sorry about the cow but if the farmer cares so much for his animals shouldn't they be fenced in? fields are for animals roads for cars, 60plus
  • Score: -12

3:38pm Fri 7 Mar 14

nickynoodah says...

He's been acting ever so odd the past couple a days
he wants to drive all over the place at 90mph
I bet its him you know
he don't know what he's doing or talking about.
He's been acting ever so odd the past couple a days he wants to drive all over the place at 90mph I bet its him you know he don't know what he's doing or talking about. nickynoodah
  • Score: -1

4:42pm Fri 7 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

You only get 3 months if you leave a human to die on the road and drive off!
You only get 3 months if you leave a human to die on the road and drive off! suzigirl
  • Score: -2

6:01pm Fri 7 Mar 14

nickynoodah says...

He loves speeding you know
must be a boy racer
He loves speeding you know must be a boy racer nickynoodah
  • Score: -2

8:22pm Fri 7 Mar 14

GeorgeW64 says...

What the hell has cycling got to do with anything ?
What the hell has cycling got to do with anything ? GeorgeW64
  • Score: -2

3:36am Sat 8 Mar 14

Ginny nz says...

60plus wrote:
Very sorry about the cow but if the farmer cares so much for his animals shouldn't they be fenced in? fields are for animals roads for cars,
Glad you are sorry about the cow but you obviously don't know how the forest works . There are no farmers and no fences . The animals are free to roam the forest as wild animals and IDIOT drivers are supposed to keep their speed down so that the ponies,cows donkeys etc aren't slaughtered like this !!!!
[quote][p][bold]60plus[/bold] wrote: Very sorry about the cow but if the farmer cares so much for his animals shouldn't they be fenced in? fields are for animals roads for cars,[/p][/quote]Glad you are sorry about the cow but you obviously don't know how the forest works . There are no farmers and no fences . The animals are free to roam the forest as wild animals and IDIOT drivers are supposed to keep their speed down so that the ponies,cows donkeys etc aren't slaughtered like this !!!! Ginny nz
  • Score: 1

3:39am Sat 8 Mar 14

Ginny nz says...

How can any human being leave any animal to die in pain . Hopefully they learn that pay back is a **** !!
How can any human being leave any animal to die in pain . Hopefully they learn that pay back is a **** !! Ginny nz
  • Score: 0

11:26am Sat 8 Mar 14

mgibbs says...

hooplaa wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
hooplaa wrote:
'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt.
Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?
the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse ....
It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving ..
i drive a BMW and drive within the speed limits... no evidence at all to suggest speed was involved.
To a professional accident investigator, there will probably be lots of evidence to indicate what speed the vehicle was travelling at. Such as the significance, and location of the animals injuries, marks on the road to indicate the point of the collision and final stopping point of the vehicle and the type of debris left behind by the car. They can also look at the road layout and determine the distance between when the animal was likely to have come into the drivers view and the point of impact. All of these are reliable indicators as to a vehicles speed at and immediately before the collision.
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: 'People who drive like that deserve to break their neck' - Not a nice thing to say! There is no evidence to suggest the car was going over 40mph. Poor cow (animal) but wishing the person to break their neck isn't a good attitude to adapt. Also it says the BMW sped off after hitting it, where is the evidence to show this? How do you know they didn't stop, didnt know what to do, had no phone or signal to call anyone?[/p][/quote]the evidence suggests that the BMW driver ( and when have you ever seen a BMW being driven slowely) was speeding other wise it would have not hit a cow, as we all know they are big and move very slowly, (pregnant cows not BMWs) as for not having a signal to phone for help, there a pub either end of that road so no excuse .... It is amazing how many apologists for wreckless speeding drivers frequent these pages , one day speeding will be as unacceptable as drunk driving ..[/p][/quote]i drive a BMW and drive within the speed limits... no evidence at all to suggest speed was involved.[/p][/quote]To a professional accident investigator, there will probably be lots of evidence to indicate what speed the vehicle was travelling at. Such as the significance, and location of the animals injuries, marks on the road to indicate the point of the collision and final stopping point of the vehicle and the type of debris left behind by the car. They can also look at the road layout and determine the distance between when the animal was likely to have come into the drivers view and the point of impact. All of these are reliable indicators as to a vehicles speed at and immediately before the collision. mgibbs
  • Score: 3

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