‘Help make ice rink happen in Bournemouth’ – campaigners’ plea for developer to come forward

Bournemouth Echo: FUN: The Westover Road ice rink, Poole, in 1989 FUN: The Westover Road ice rink, Poole, in 1989

CAMPAIGNERS have issued an appeal for a developer to step in and make an ice rink happen in Bournemouth.

They say there is massive support behind their call for an Olympic size facility in the town.

Bournemouth council has given planning permission for a rink at Kings Park but currently has no developer in place to build it.

Calls for a rink were given a new lease of life when former regulars at the defunct Westover Road ice rink launched a nostalgic Facebook group and got together for a reunion on the seasonal rink at the BIC.

Mary Waygood, who started the Facebook group Westover Ice Rink – Memories, said it was possible a viable scheme could attract funding from Sport England. “The council say they’re all for it but they don’t seem to be doing anything about it. We’re appealing for anyone out there to put the money forward or approach Sport England,” she said.

Supporters say a rink would be commercially viable if it were big enough. “It has to be a certain size to have international ice hockey championships,” said Mary.

An online petition currently has more than 1,100 signatures and around 12 paper copies of the petition are being circulated.

“I’m hoping for 5,000 signatures by the beginning of March,” said Mary. “It’s important we have facilities for all ages, which we do not have in Bournemouth.”

The campaigners for a new rink can be contacted by email at bournemouthice@live.co.uk

Independent councillor Ron Whittaker raised the ice rink issue at the last full meeting of Bournemouth council. He asked for an update after councillors were told last October that a company had expressed an interest in taking forward the Kings Park plans. Council leader Cllr John Beesley insisted the council was committed to working with the private sector to provide a permanent rink.

He said: “I can confirm that council officers have had an initial meeting with an ice rink operator and, whilst early indications are positive, we do not know when, or indeed if, they will be coming forward with firm proposals.

“Whilst the council continues to fully support the provision of a new ice facility in King’s Park, we need to understand that we are dependent upon a commercial operator coming forward with a viable proposal.”

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7:47am Fri 31 Jan 14

Richard 1976 says...

Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published?
Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published? Richard 1976

8:40am Fri 31 Jan 14

John T says...

Richard 1976 wrote:
Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published?
No, only those who comment on this site after they are published, and then the Echo frequently sneakily corrects their mistakes.
After all, Echo reporters are paid to do THEIR job, we aren't! ....We are all in this together.
[quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published?[/p][/quote]No, only those who comment on this site after they are published, and then the Echo frequently sneakily corrects their mistakes. After all, Echo reporters are paid to do THEIR job, we aren't! ....We are all in this together. John T

9:03am Fri 31 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Richard 1976 wrote:
Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published?
Its not even a simple mistake, even my dog knows Westover Road is in Bournemouth
[quote][p][bold]Richard 1976[/bold] wrote: Westover Road, Poole? Does anyone check simple mistakes before they're published?[/p][/quote]Its not even a simple mistake, even my dog knows Westover Road is in Bournemouth Hessenford

10:05am Fri 31 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway!
So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! speedy231278

10:44am Fri 31 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

There is a big difference between former users of the Westover Ice Rink meeting up for an annual reunion and the "need" for a permanent ice rink. You can't expect a private company to build an ice rink based on a nostalgic Facebook group which has only 560 members and an online petition. How many of the so called supporters of an ice rink would actually use it on a regular basis ?
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I've nothing against an ice rink in Kings Park providing that the tax payer doesn't end up having to subsidise it in any way. The biggest risk to the project is Beesley. Developers will be mindful of the current disputes between Beesley and Trevor Osborne and Licet - Is a private investor going to spend £millions on architects fees, project management fees etc when there is a real risk that Beesley will change his mind and try and pull the plug.
There is a big difference between former users of the Westover Ice Rink meeting up for an annual reunion and the "need" for a permanent ice rink. You can't expect a private company to build an ice rink based on a nostalgic Facebook group which has only 560 members and an online petition. How many of the so called supporters of an ice rink would actually use it on a regular basis ? . I've nothing against an ice rink in Kings Park providing that the tax payer doesn't end up having to subsidise it in any way. The biggest risk to the project is Beesley. Developers will be mindful of the current disputes between Beesley and Trevor Osborne and Licet - Is a private investor going to spend £millions on architects fees, project management fees etc when there is a real risk that Beesley will change his mind and try and pull the plug. BmthNewshound

11:10am Fri 31 Jan 14

Townee says...

I can't believe that the majority or residents in Bournemouth are in favour of an ice rink, perhaps a minority. Ok let's have it as long as it doesn't cost council tax payers an money or use council tax money. If people want it then they are the ones who should pay for it's up keep.
Many people want different thing in life but don't always get them.
I can't believe that the majority or residents in Bournemouth are in favour of an ice rink, perhaps a minority. Ok let's have it as long as it doesn't cost council tax payers an money or use council tax money. If people want it then they are the ones who should pay for it's up keep. Many people want different thing in life but don't always get them. Townee

11:32am Fri 31 Jan 14

Phixer says...

The only ice rinks I've seen in recent years have been part of major shopping malls - and we don't have any major shopping malls anywhere near Bournemouth.

To attract skaters, it would need to be part of a larger all-weather facility and close to the town centre. Holiday makers on a rainy day won't trek out to Kings Park.
The only ice rinks I've seen in recent years have been part of major shopping malls - and we don't have any major shopping malls anywhere near Bournemouth. To attract skaters, it would need to be part of a larger all-weather facility and close to the town centre. Holiday makers on a rainy day won't trek out to Kings Park. Phixer

12:26pm Fri 31 Jan 14

George Bowling says...

speedy231278 wrote:
So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway!
I think you mean bearly 0.5%. It will be even less if the 1100 aren't all Bournemouth residents.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway![/p][/quote]I think you mean bearly 0.5%. It will be even less if the 1100 aren't all Bournemouth residents. George Bowling

12:49pm Fri 31 Jan 14

bally75 says...

So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway!

please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles
So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles bally75

1:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Unclelofty says...

I know an ice rink would be a luxury for Bournemouth, but has anyone thought of using the area as an indoor cricket pitch. This could even promote Dorset as a county cricket side. Hows that.
I know an ice rink would be a luxury for Bournemouth, but has anyone thought of using the area as an indoor cricket pitch. This could even promote Dorset as a county cricket side. Hows that. Unclelofty

1:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

George Bowling says...

bally75 wrote:
So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles
If you are refering to this survey,

http://www.bournemou
th2026.org.uk/public
.getfile.cfm?type=mu
ltiplefile&fid=2912

it only had a 27% response rate (a total of 1913 responses). As a response was voluntary, you can't really say this totals represent a statistical cross section of the community. To take the time to reply, a respondant would more likely that not have a strong opinion skewing the numbers on way or another.

I have no preference either way on whether an ice rink is built or not. However, i would prefer all the risk to sit with the private sector developer (with a few clauses to ensure there is no Imax mk II).
[quote][p][bold]bally75[/bold] wrote: So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles[/p][/quote]If you are refering to this survey, http://www.bournemou th2026.org.uk/public .getfile.cfm?type=mu ltiplefile&fid=2912 it only had a 27% response rate (a total of 1913 responses). As a response was voluntary, you can't really say this totals represent a statistical cross section of the community. To take the time to reply, a respondant would more likely that not have a strong opinion skewing the numbers on way or another. I have no preference either way on whether an ice rink is built or not. However, i would prefer all the risk to sit with the private sector developer (with a few clauses to ensure there is no Imax mk II). George Bowling

2:51pm Fri 31 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

NO NO NO How many more times No
NO NO NO How many more times No kalebmoledirt

7:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Benniestewart says...

A tremendous amount of support from Wimborne there is very little to do in Wimborne so I would imagine any leisure facility would be welcome
Would not these people be better trying to get Poole to build an Ice Rink
How about Poole Park next to the Bus Station great after the trek from Wimborne
If Councillor Beasley is successful in his bid to develop a Bus Station in
Bournemouth then the obvious site for Bournemouth for Residents and
Tourists is Bournemouth
We have the Air Show We would then be able to offer the Ice Show in the Winter great for all the business's in Bournemnouth who deserve a break You have to be realistic about the whole '' Ice Rink '' thing and Kings Park would never work unless you fly people in
A tremendous amount of support from Wimborne there is very little to do in Wimborne so I would imagine any leisure facility would be welcome Would not these people be better trying to get Poole to build an Ice Rink How about Poole Park next to the Bus Station great after the trek from Wimborne If Councillor Beasley is successful in his bid to develop a Bus Station in Bournemouth then the obvious site for Bournemouth for Residents and Tourists is Bournemouth We have the Air Show We would then be able to offer the Ice Show in the Winter great for all the business's in Bournemnouth who deserve a break You have to be realistic about the whole '' Ice Rink '' thing and Kings Park would never work unless you fly people in Benniestewart

11:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

MW Bournemouth says...

The online petition has 1130 signatures so far. This does not take into account the hard copies that are circulating. We are also receiving strong support from hundreds if people who never visited Westover but still have the sense to realise what a benefit a permanent indoor all weather facility, such as an ice rink, would be.
Too many families sit at home in separate rooms never talking and doing nothing but eating or trawling the internet. Whatever happened to communication skills face to face, having fun, learning new skills and spending time with family, all of which would be possible with a permanent ice rink.
The online petition has 1130 signatures so far. This does not take into account the hard copies that are circulating. We are also receiving strong support from hundreds if people who never visited Westover but still have the sense to realise what a benefit a permanent indoor all weather facility, such as an ice rink, would be. Too many families sit at home in separate rooms never talking and doing nothing but eating or trawling the internet. Whatever happened to communication skills face to face, having fun, learning new skills and spending time with family, all of which would be possible with a permanent ice rink. MW Bournemouth

12:25am Sat 1 Feb 14

billm says...

I used to skate at Westover Road as a kid in the 50's. It was great fun. I understand why the Campaigners are so keen BUT I don't think it will happen. It might be 'viable' but I don't think anyone would make a lot of money out of it.
I used to skate at Westover Road as a kid in the 50's. It was great fun. I understand why the Campaigners are so keen BUT I don't think it will happen. It might be 'viable' but I don't think anyone would make a lot of money out of it. billm

8:44am Sat 1 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

Get Ya skates on......
Get Ya skates on...... BIGTONE

11:05am Sat 1 Feb 14

Markmag says...

George Bowling wrote:
bally75 wrote:
So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles
If you are refering to this survey,

http://www.bournemou

th2026.org.uk/public

.getfile.cfm?type=mu

ltiplefile&fid=2
912

it only had a 27% response rate (a total of 1913 responses). As a response was voluntary, you can't really say this totals represent a statistical cross section of the community. To take the time to reply, a respondant would more likely that not have a strong opinion skewing the numbers on way or another.

I have no preference either way on whether an ice rink is built or not. However, i would prefer all the risk to sit with the private sector developer (with a few clauses to ensure there is no Imax mk II).
You do realise that 27% is actually a ridiculously high return rate for a survey of this sort? Genuinely this type of survey is normally lucky to get 10% return. Local elections can get a lower percentage! It shows the passion local residents have to improve their Kings Park and want for a new leisure attraction. Most nationwide surveys are based on a few thousand responses at most, so 2000 households (not individuals) responding is a huge response rate - certainly more realistic cross section of public opinion then the comments below an Echo story!
[quote][p][bold]George Bowling[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bally75[/bold] wrote: So, 1100 people out of 183491 according to the 2011 census want an ice rink. Or barely 5%. Not exactly overwhelming figures. If one would be that worthwhile, I would have thought a developer would already have considered the idea. Doubtless, once one was built, everyone would complain it was too expensive anyway! please take a look at the councils own survey!!! you can find that on there web site i think you will find that there is a survey that shows how many members of the public want this!!!!!!!! and if you took a survey of the entire conurbation Poole Bournemouth Christchurch and the surrounding area you would have an even larger positive response. just to give you an idea of numbers there would be approx 415'000 people living within 15miles of the kings park rink? or approx 750'000 in 30miles[/p][/quote]If you are refering to this survey, http://www.bournemou th2026.org.uk/public .getfile.cfm?type=mu ltiplefile&fid=2 912 it only had a 27% response rate (a total of 1913 responses). As a response was voluntary, you can't really say this totals represent a statistical cross section of the community. To take the time to reply, a respondant would more likely that not have a strong opinion skewing the numbers on way or another. I have no preference either way on whether an ice rink is built or not. However, i would prefer all the risk to sit with the private sector developer (with a few clauses to ensure there is no Imax mk II).[/p][/quote]You do realise that 27% is actually a ridiculously high return rate for a survey of this sort? Genuinely this type of survey is normally lucky to get 10% return. Local elections can get a lower percentage! It shows the passion local residents have to improve their Kings Park and want for a new leisure attraction. Most nationwide surveys are based on a few thousand responses at most, so 2000 households (not individuals) responding is a huge response rate - certainly more realistic cross section of public opinion then the comments below an Echo story! Markmag

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