VIDEO: ‘Demolish Pavilion and put bus station on Winter Gardens' – Dave Wells on how Bournemouth should be developed

Bournemouth Echo: KNOCK IT DOWN: Dave Wells suggests the Pavilion should be demolished KNOCK IT DOWN: Dave Wells suggests the Pavilion should be demolished

DEMOLISH the Pavilion, build a bus station on the Winter Gardens and turn the Town Hall into a hotel – those are among the suggestions made by one of Bournemouth’s most controversial characters as to how the town should be developed.

Dave Wells, who founded Dorset’s biggest private lettings company, said he felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership.

He said he believed Bournemouth Council leader John Beesley was generally taking the town in the right direction but there were areas where the council could be bolder.

He said there was no good reason for demolishing the Imax when it could have been turned into “the best casino on the south coast” and he said the council should drop plans to try and buy the NCP car park at Exeter Road.

“We’re going to spend millions CPOing that,” he said. “The idea of putting a bus station there is a horrible, horrible thought.”

Instead he said the Winter Gardens site was perfect for a bus station and car park, as it was bigger and already in council ownership.

He praised Cllr Beesley for pulling the plug on Trevor Osborne’s Pavilion Gardens plans and said the council should at some point consider demolishing the Pavilion.

Wells' views on the town's development

  • On the decision to end the contract with Trevor Osborne. "Brilliant. I’ve been saying it for the last three years. What are we doing with Trevor Osborne? Who’s ever heard of Trevor Osborne developments? I’ve been doing this for 45 to 50 years and I’ve never heard of him.”
  • On demolishing the Imax: “It would have been a lovely, lovely casino – the best casino on the south coast. You couldn’t have gone wrong with it. It would have brought more middle-aged and older people into Bournemouth with money in their pockets.
  • On the Pavilion and adjacent car park: “For the minute I’d leave it. But at some time in the forseeable future we’ve got to take a view on the Pavilion. I see a case for demolishing the Pavilion. What can we build there? A nice purpose-built hotel, an all-weather attraction, something inside.”
  • On the West Central leisure complex planned for Exeter Road. “Brilliant. It will have lovely views looking out over the Gardens. It’s not big enough for a bus station. Put something nice there.”
  • On the Winter Gardens: “Put your bus station on the Winter Gardens, It’s a much, much bigger site and the council already owns it. You would have to lower the ground levels but that’s easy enough and you could then connect the site to the Triangle, regenerating Purbeck Road and the surrounding area.”
  • On the town hall: “It would break my heart if you wanted to pull the town hall down. That would be total absolute sacrilege but the town hall can’t operate as a town hall. The front of the town hall is south facing, it gets sun all day. That’s a lovely place for hotel rooms.”

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9:39am Fri 24 Jan 14

teri10 says...

Prat!!
Prat!! teri10

10:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

chridrum says...

Not sure why the Echo is giving the man who generally lowered the quality of this town column space. But it does give a starting point for the good people of Bournemouth to have their say now that the Echo have allowed comments.
So on his points
The fact that Mr Wells does not know Trevor Osbourne raises them in my eyes but I thought their design was a carbuncle, so I am delighted it failed.

The IMAX was a carbuncle, it's gone most of us are delighted - move on

Demolishing the Pavillion, the Pavillion is a functional heritage building and our only theatre. We will keep it and maintain it. The work on Pavillion Dance is amazing but all of it could be used more effectively.

West Central Leisure Complex, another carbuncle, incentivise development of Westover Road instead. Mr Wells you can build your hotel here if it fits in with the architecture of the town.

Winter Gardens, would the IceRink fit here keeping it in the town. Judging by the success of the temporary rink this is popular with the people of Bournemouth. The Kings Park idea is clearly not viable and removes valuable green space.

On the Town Hall; Mr Wells it was a hotel, so yes it could be a hotel but currently it is our Town Hall. Moving the Town Hall is always an option but probably not a viable one.

Ok good people of Bournemouth over to you
Not sure why the Echo is giving the man who generally lowered the quality of this town column space. But it does give a starting point for the good people of Bournemouth to have their say now that the Echo have allowed comments. So on his points The fact that Mr Wells does not know Trevor Osbourne raises them in my eyes but I thought their design was a carbuncle, so I am delighted it failed. The IMAX was a carbuncle, it's gone most of us are delighted - move on Demolishing the Pavillion, the Pavillion is a functional heritage building and our only theatre. We will keep it and maintain it. The work on Pavillion Dance is amazing but all of it could be used more effectively. West Central Leisure Complex, another carbuncle, incentivise development of Westover Road instead. Mr Wells you can build your hotel here if it fits in with the architecture of the town. Winter Gardens, would the IceRink fit here keeping it in the town. Judging by the success of the temporary rink this is popular with the people of Bournemouth. The Kings Park idea is clearly not viable and removes valuable green space. On the Town Hall; Mr Wells it was a hotel, so yes it could be a hotel but currently it is our Town Hall. Moving the Town Hall is always an option but probably not a viable one. Ok good people of Bournemouth over to you chridrum

10:10am Fri 24 Jan 14

BarrHumbug says...

TBH, i'm inclined to agree with him about the Winter Gardens/NCP car park idea. Why spend millions on a compulsory purchase right next to land you already own?
His other ideas though are rubbish.
TBH, i'm inclined to agree with him about the Winter Gardens/NCP car park idea. Why spend millions on a compulsory purchase right next to land you already own? His other ideas though are rubbish. BarrHumbug

10:18am Fri 24 Jan 14

madras says...

Take away that awful flyover from Bath Hill. Then integrate from #1 asset (sea front) back to open it up and have cafes / bars / restaurants within simple walk from sea front up through to the gardens / rest of Bournemouth and then the larger complexes (cincema / ice rink / etc) a little back from the front (err, perhaps Westover Road!!). And bus depot where the old one was
Take away that awful flyover from Bath Hill. Then integrate from #1 asset (sea front) back to open it up and have cafes / bars / restaurants within simple walk from sea front up through to the gardens / rest of Bournemouth and then the larger complexes (cincema / ice rink / etc) a little back from the front (err, perhaps Westover Road!!). And bus depot where the old one was madras

10:22am Fri 24 Jan 14

thisloginprocessisdaft says...

One thing he left out was a Mayor. Elected one so we have more accountability.
One thing he left out was a Mayor. Elected one so we have more accountability. thisloginprocessisdaft

10:22am Fri 24 Jan 14

CourtOffside says...

The Pavillion could be turned into Bournemouth's answer to Madison Square Garden - a major multi purpose indoor arena - and solve the objections to building an ice rink in Kings Park at a stroke...
The Pavillion could be turned into Bournemouth's answer to Madison Square Garden - a major multi purpose indoor arena - and solve the objections to building an ice rink in Kings Park at a stroke... CourtOffside

10:32am Fri 24 Jan 14

spotthis says...

With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now
"felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised!
There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it?
With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now "felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised! There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it? spotthis

10:36am Fri 24 Jan 14

In Absentia says...

As soon as I saw this article, I knew that Melanie Vass would have written it. Is she Dave Wells PR rep at the Echo? Mr Wells is someone who has got wealthy on the back of successive Government failures to replace social housing stock after the big sell off during the 80's and 90's. Perhaps the Echo could investigate exactly what contribution he's made to this town as opposed to what he's done for himself.
As soon as I saw this article, I knew that Melanie Vass would have written it. Is she Dave Wells PR rep at the Echo? Mr Wells is someone who has got wealthy on the back of successive Government failures to replace social housing stock after the big sell off during the 80's and 90's. Perhaps the Echo could investigate exactly what contribution he's made to this town as opposed to what he's done for himself. In Absentia

11:13am Fri 24 Jan 14

Lord Spring says...

I am lost for words that could be published.
I am lost for words that could be published. Lord Spring

11:59am Fri 24 Jan 14

High Treason says...

Dave Wells wants the town hall for bedsits. He could charge more with views of the gardens and the misfits could stagger along through the gardens with lush grass to collapse on. Maybe he could join up with his mate Eddie Mitchell, he is looking for a new business opportunity!
Dave Wells wants the town hall for bedsits. He could charge more with views of the gardens and the misfits could stagger along through the gardens with lush grass to collapse on. Maybe he could join up with his mate Eddie Mitchell, he is looking for a new business opportunity! High Treason

12:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Gastines3 says...

Always a good subject for the Echo! However whilst I can only agree that there are plenty of properties owned by his former company that need a good sort out,I would also point out the difference in many parts of the town where his new build properties look a lot better than what they replaced.Whilst his company has obviously done well out of his investment in property that no-one else wanted,including our Council,it is worth pointing out that there are many hundreds that the Council in line with Government Policy,that would be without any where to live.Basically the Council missed the opportunity to do years ago, to do what they suddenly thik is a good idea by buying up H.M.O. to turn them into family homes.If our Council took more interest in serving the needs of the locals and less time on numerous grandiose schemes that never seem to turn out as promised,we wouldn't have needed Mr D. Wells, to do their job for them. As regardst of his ideas,I would agree with most of them,the town definitely needs a radical sort out and in todays market most of it's facilities
and lack of them,are years behind what the town needs to drag it into the 21st century. At least he's put his money where most have only stood by.
By the way ,I'm not an employee or an associate of Mr. Wells, Bt I should imagine that there are plenty in the building trade who have survived on his work and payments.
Always a good subject for the Echo! However whilst I can only agree that there are plenty of properties owned by his former company that need a good sort out,I would also point out the difference in many parts of the town where his new build properties look a lot better than what they replaced.Whilst his company has obviously done well out of his investment in property that no-one else wanted,including our Council,it is worth pointing out that there are many hundreds that the Council in line with Government Policy,that would be without any where to live.Basically the Council missed the opportunity to do years ago, to do what they suddenly thik is a good idea by buying up H.M.O. to turn them into family homes.If our Council took more interest in serving the needs of the locals and less time on numerous grandiose schemes that never seem to turn out as promised,we wouldn't have needed Mr D. Wells, to do their job for them. As regardst of his ideas,I would agree with most of them,the town definitely needs a radical sort out and in todays market most of it's facilities and lack of them,are years behind what the town needs to drag it into the 21st century. At least he's put his money where most have only stood by. By the way ,I'm not an employee or an associate of Mr. Wells, Bt I should imagine that there are plenty in the building trade who have survived on his work and payments. Gastines3

12:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

buickboy says...

spotthis wrote:
With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now "felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised! There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it?
Dave Wells for councillor ? why not ? In fact Dave Wells for mayor would be more like it !! I for one would vote for him, he started with nothing and has worked harder than most people all his life to get where he is today.
(Unlike ALL the party leaders in Westminster today, every one of whom without exception were born into money and privilege)
If he had not provided social housing when the goverment refused to, who would have??
Yes he is wealthy and successful, he has a right to be.
I've known him since I was a yongster and I like the man.
Good luck Dave, ( jealousy's an awful thing, ignore them)
Taff M. xx
[quote][p][bold]spotthis[/bold] wrote: With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now "felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised! There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it?[/p][/quote]Dave Wells for councillor ? why not ? In fact Dave Wells for mayor would be more like it !! I for one would vote for him, he started with nothing and has worked harder than most people all his life to get where he is today. (Unlike ALL the party leaders in Westminster today, every one of whom without exception were born into money and privilege) If he had not provided social housing when the goverment refused to, who would have?? Yes he is wealthy and successful, he has a right to be. I've known him since I was a yongster and I like the man. Good luck Dave, ( jealousy's an awful thing, ignore them) Taff M. xx buickboy

12:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

royeveleigh says...

Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells. royeveleigh

12:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

Having watched the video of Mr Wells he appeared to be somewhat rambling and being careful not to either fully endorse or openly criticise Beesley - after all although he may have taken a back seat in his company it is still his company and is dependent on the support of the Council.
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Agree with the Imax, pulling the plug on Osborne and Exeter Road (bus station) comments - Wells makes a valid point that the site isn't really big enough for a modern bus station and the cost of the CPO would be ridiculously high.
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Disagree with demolishing the Pavilion. It may be out of date but its the only theatre Bournemouth has. However, rather than tinkering around the edges a full refurbishment is required and the Council would be better off spending money doing that than CPOing the Exeter Road site.
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The Town Hall was originally built as a hotel (Mont Dore Hotel). But just as it is out of date as a municipal building it is out of date as a hotel. Bournemouth couldn't sustain a 5*+ hotel - look at the how the Royal Bath has declined, from 5* luxury to tatty coach party hotel.
Having watched the video of Mr Wells he appeared to be somewhat rambling and being careful not to either fully endorse or openly criticise Beesley - after all although he may have taken a back seat in his company it is still his company and is dependent on the support of the Council. . Agree with the Imax, pulling the plug on Osborne and Exeter Road (bus station) comments - Wells makes a valid point that the site isn't really big enough for a modern bus station and the cost of the CPO would be ridiculously high. . Disagree with demolishing the Pavilion. It may be out of date but its the only theatre Bournemouth has. However, rather than tinkering around the edges a full refurbishment is required and the Council would be better off spending money doing that than CPOing the Exeter Road site. . The Town Hall was originally built as a hotel (Mont Dore Hotel). But just as it is out of date as a municipal building it is out of date as a hotel. Bournemouth couldn't sustain a 5*+ hotel - look at the how the Royal Bath has declined, from 5* luxury to tatty coach party hotel. BmthNewshound

12:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Chriswood says...

Well done Dave. Some great long term and fresh ideas. Something the Town Centre needs.
Well done Dave. Some great long term and fresh ideas. Something the Town Centre needs. Chriswood

12:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Chriswood says...

royeveleigh wrote:
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.
[quote][p][bold]royeveleigh[/bold] wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well. Chriswood

1:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Eddie's dog says...

Suggest we forget about democracy and elected councils; just listen to the views spouted by ego driven 'businessmen' such as Dave Wells, Eddie Mitchell, etc............ any others?
Suggest we forget about democracy and elected councils; just listen to the views spouted by ego driven 'businessmen' such as Dave Wells, Eddie Mitchell, etc............ any others? Eddie's dog

1:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

onetimeapathetic says...

Chriswood wrote:
royeveleigh wrote:
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.
The man you are talking about single handedly turned Boscombe into what it is now so clearly you must either work for him or be a relative
[quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]royeveleigh[/bold] wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.[/p][/quote]The man you are talking about single handedly turned Boscombe into what it is now so clearly you must either work for him or be a relative onetimeapathetic

1:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

addntox says...

with the millions he gets off the local councils every month (as well s private rents etc) why not put his money where his mouth is or SHUT UP

if half these ideas where goers he would of put the money in

most of the housing problems in the town are his fault -

he might have might pretend to be caring now but it was not long ago that he beat up anyone and everyone- thats why he takes a back seat these days - so tht they can put a freiendly persona.

Any concience that last week Beasley promised to get rid of rogu landlords- now Wellsy is saying what a lovely guy he is?
with the millions he gets off the local councils every month (as well s private rents etc) why not put his money where his mouth is or SHUT UP if half these ideas where goers he would of put the money in most of the housing problems in the town are his fault - he might have might pretend to be caring now but it was not long ago that he beat up anyone and everyone- thats why he takes a back seat these days - so tht they can put a freiendly persona. Any concience that last week Beasley promised to get rid of rogu landlords- now Wellsy is saying what a lovely guy he is? addntox

1:38pm Fri 24 Jan 14

GeorgeW64 says...

I would rather see all his properties demolished and his tenants rehomed in another town.
I would rather see all his properties demolished and his tenants rehomed in another town. GeorgeW64

1:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Obviously not everyone,s favourite but it,s the best suggestion I,'ve heard on a long term plan for Bournemouth.At least his local and no known vested interest. As for the people that made him millions they were largely encouraged to the area by the services provided by the very well funded addiction services who I doubt very much consulted with the council as to where the influx of alcoholic and drug addicts would live once they dropped out of treament.Then there was the home office funded paedophile program that health authorities all over the country sent there offenders to the Bournemouth area to receive specialist phycolagist as it happened she was marched out of the hospital after a couple of years when it was discovered she had absolutely no qualifications .the the paedophiles were already living here and probably unbeknownst to Mr Wells in some of his properties,but the council presumably knew So Mr Wells although no Angel is no worse than squeky clean council's a specialists that influence who lives here
Obviously not everyone,s favourite but it,s the best suggestion I,'ve heard on a long term plan for Bournemouth.At least his local and no known vested interest. As for the people that made him millions they were largely encouraged to the area by the services provided by the very well funded addiction services who I doubt very much consulted with the council as to where the influx of alcoholic and drug addicts would live once they dropped out of treament.Then there was the home office funded paedophile program that health authorities all over the country sent there offenders to the Bournemouth area to receive specialist phycolagist as it happened she was marched out of the hospital after a couple of years when it was discovered she had absolutely no qualifications .the the paedophiles were already living here and probably unbeknownst to Mr Wells in some of his properties,but the council presumably knew So Mr Wells although no Angel is no worse than squeky clean council's a specialists that influence who lives here kalebmoledirt

2:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mark.s says...

DW may not be a nice man, in fact he's about as unscrupulous as they come... but regardless of agreeing or not with each point, at least here we see an actual plan for the town containing some logic.

The council couldn't do likewise in a 100 years.
DW may not be a nice man, in fact he's about as unscrupulous as they come... but regardless of agreeing or not with each point, at least here we see an actual plan for the town containing some logic. The council couldn't do likewise in a 100 years. mark.s

2:16pm Fri 24 Jan 14

H2o-hara says...

The Imax would have made a lovely , lovely , lovely casino ? And that it should have stayed up ? ...Why demolish it ? Instead we can demolish the Pavillion and build ' something' there but not sure what !
I listened to as far as the bus station bit and stopped the video as I couldn't listen any more to this . It seems he certainly does live up to his reputation and can't say I am at all keen . ... Obviously thinks he owns the town already !
Thanks Mr Wells and sit back down and we'll see or hear what the rest of the town think .
The Imax would have made a lovely , lovely , lovely casino ? And that it should have stayed up ? ...Why demolish it ? Instead we can demolish the Pavillion and build ' something' there but not sure what ! I listened to as far as the bus station bit and stopped the video as I couldn't listen any more to this . It seems he certainly does live up to his reputation and can't say I am at all keen . ... Obviously thinks he owns the town already ! Thanks Mr Wells and sit back down and we'll see or hear what the rest of the town think . H2o-hara

2:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

In Absentia says...

There's no real need for the personal remarks made about DW, but for me the main legitimate concern here is why this individual gets a mouthpiece via local print media ahead of anyone else? He's a property owner, not an elected representative of the local community. In theory any of us should have the right to get a platform of this sort, but it would never happen.
There's no real need for the personal remarks made about DW, but for me the main legitimate concern here is why this individual gets a mouthpiece via local print media ahead of anyone else? He's a property owner, not an elected representative of the local community. In theory any of us should have the right to get a platform of this sort, but it would never happen. In Absentia

2:44pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bmthgirl64 says...

Chriswood wrote:
royeveleigh wrote:
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.
what tosh!
[quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]royeveleigh[/bold] wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.[/p][/quote]what tosh! bmthgirl64

2:45pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bmthgirl64 says...

Chriswood wrote:
royeveleigh wrote:
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.
what tosh! The passing years can't obliterate his history
[quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]royeveleigh[/bold] wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.[/p][/quote]what tosh! The passing years can't obliterate his history bmthgirl64

3:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

H2o-hara says...

In Absentia wrote:
There's no real need for the personal remarks made about DW, but for me the main legitimate concern here is why this individual gets a mouthpiece via local print media ahead of anyone else? He's a property owner, not an elected representative of the local community. In theory any of us should have the right to get a platform of this sort, but it would never happen.
Exactly my opinion too !
[quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: There's no real need for the personal remarks made about DW, but for me the main legitimate concern here is why this individual gets a mouthpiece via local print media ahead of anyone else? He's a property owner, not an elected representative of the local community. In theory any of us should have the right to get a platform of this sort, but it would never happen.[/p][/quote]Exactly my opinion too ! H2o-hara

3:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Gastines3 says...

The obvious answer for the Echo accused of being Mr.Wells mouthpiece, is to ask our local Councillors what their 'Vision' is, albeit with our money.So far on their record, I think I'd sooner Mr.Wells ideas and the use of our money than the spectacular deals being foisted on us by he Council who are liable when a loss is made,or in the usual scenario,is a complete co-k-up.
The obvious answer for the Echo accused of being Mr.Wells mouthpiece, is to ask our local Councillors what their 'Vision' is, albeit with our money.So far on their record, I think I'd sooner Mr.Wells ideas and the use of our money than the spectacular deals being foisted on us by he Council who are liable when a loss is made,or in the usual scenario,is a complete co-k-up. Gastines3

4:05pm Fri 24 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Interesting comments in response to this man's ideas and some pretty personal stuff - although perhaps the latter is based as much on a repute gained by popular old hearsay more than his recent mainstream business activities.

But the one thing that really annoys me and no doubt not a few others is that Dave thought of all the ideas that made him very successful before any of us did! He played the useless not fit for purpose 'system' and won - good luck to him, apart from with his Bus Station suggestion, I believe it should be back on the Exeter Road site.
Interesting comments in response to this man's ideas and some pretty personal stuff - although perhaps the latter is based as much on a repute gained by popular old hearsay more than his recent mainstream business activities. But the one thing that really annoys me and no doubt not a few others is that Dave thought of all the ideas that made him very successful before any of us did! He played the useless not fit for purpose 'system' and won - good luck to him, apart from with his Bus Station suggestion, I believe it should be back on the Exeter Road site. muscliffman

4:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

buickboy wrote:
spotthis wrote: With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now "felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised! There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it?
Dave Wells for councillor ? why not ? In fact Dave Wells for mayor would be more like it !! I for one would vote for him, he started with nothing and has worked harder than most people all his life to get where he is today. (Unlike ALL the party leaders in Westminster today, every one of whom without exception were born into money and privilege) If he had not provided social housing when the goverment refused to, who would have?? Yes he is wealthy and successful, he has a right to be. I've known him since I was a yongster and I like the man. Good luck Dave, ( jealousy's an awful thing, ignore them) Taff M. xx
He made his wealth on the misery of others and still to this day he does.I don't think he can run for Councillor the past will stick with him.

A Dept of Works and Pension saw how much he charges for a one bed flat and fell off his chair.Ikea shares has gone up as all the new builds are flat packs.They're like toys to him.I'll play with this one for a while.Get in good tenants and then as soon as another building is built then the top building falls down the league and soon the riff- raff is let in.

So all those people who have paid over the odds and the tax payer who have paid the benefits for substandard accomodation.

Only the other day a tenant told me she had 'rats in her building.' I said 'don't worry the councillors will be gone soon.'.'No, she said rats'.

Stick to Sandbanks or Dubai, Dave as you have created enough problems in the town and the promises that you gave to residents before building a property in a nice area has come true.In fact, the police should have their own parking bay.It's no jealousy.why people criticise Dave Wells it's the way he has done it.In fact i am sure if there is an after life 'Wellsy' will come back as a seagull.Because as a person he has gone everywhere and has sh*t on everyone.



He backs the Conservatives in political election and then an pusedo independent in the Police and Crime Commisioners election.Soon he'll have more face than 'Big Ben.'
[quote][p][bold]buickboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotthis[/bold] wrote: With Mr. Well's praises for Cllr. Beesley and his declaration that he now "felt free to speak out now he was taking a back seat at DWP Housing Partnership", does this mean he is going to run as a Councillor? Dear God in heaven but I would not be surprised! There seems to be plenty of relationships and partnerships already between those in the Town Hall and those involved in other dubious activities that have not been stopped, so why not be upfront about it?[/p][/quote]Dave Wells for councillor ? why not ? In fact Dave Wells for mayor would be more like it !! I for one would vote for him, he started with nothing and has worked harder than most people all his life to get where he is today. (Unlike ALL the party leaders in Westminster today, every one of whom without exception were born into money and privilege) If he had not provided social housing when the goverment refused to, who would have?? Yes he is wealthy and successful, he has a right to be. I've known him since I was a yongster and I like the man. Good luck Dave, ( jealousy's an awful thing, ignore them) Taff M. xx[/p][/quote]He made his wealth on the misery of others and still to this day he does.I don't think he can run for Councillor the past will stick with him. A Dept of Works and Pension saw how much he charges for a one bed flat and fell off his chair.Ikea shares has gone up as all the new builds are flat packs.They're like toys to him.I'll play with this one for a while.Get in good tenants and then as soon as another building is built then the top building falls down the league and soon the riff- raff is let in. So all those people who have paid over the odds and the tax payer who have paid the benefits for substandard accomodation. Only the other day a tenant told me she had 'rats in her building.' I said 'don't worry the councillors will be gone soon.'.'No, she said rats'. Stick to Sandbanks or Dubai, Dave as you have created enough problems in the town and the promises that you gave to residents before building a property in a nice area has come true.In fact, the police should have their own parking bay.It's no jealousy.why people criticise Dave Wells it's the way he has done it.In fact i am sure if there is an after life 'Wellsy' will come back as a seagull.Because as a person he has gone everywhere and has sh*t on everyone. He backs the Conservatives in political election and then an pusedo independent in the Police and Crime Commisioners election.Soon he'll have more face than 'Big Ben.' politicaltrainspotter

4:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

retrogeoff says...

DW never did understand; never wanted to understand; never will understand. Been like it all his life. Tragic outcomes for Bournemouth. But he is not alone. Evidence everywhere.
DW never did understand; never wanted to understand; never will understand. Been like it all his life. Tragic outcomes for Bournemouth. But he is not alone. Evidence everywhere. retrogeoff

5:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

I just love the subject of Dave Wells.He said 'nobody has heard of Trevor Osbourne. Well, Dave, everybody has heard of you and for the wrong reasons.proud of that ? .Dispatches 'Landlords From Hell. Shelter, Citizen Advice to name a few.Refusing to give an interview to Jon Snow as you could not defend your companies practices.Then putting Steve in front of the camera's who was asked a question and looked liked a rabbit in headlights.

So they call themselves DWPHousing partnership.but the secret is they won't reveal who they are in partnership with.Exempt from a Freedom of Information request they could still find a Subject Access Request submitted.If he has got partnerships then it is not with his tenants who further his wealth and pay his staff wages.

Don't think that DW tenants want to be here.They have no choice.It is very transient.And when they do manage to find another property i cannot believe the relief and joy that they express.I don't think we are tenants but inmates!..Don't write off DW tenants completely. They're are some very decent people but as stated earlier they all want to leave.These are not homes, they are hostels.and there seems to be a mutual feeling about it.DW doesn't want you in them long and neither does the tenants.

We have a saying whe someone moves it called 'early release' but no tagging required

Have a nice weekend because i have got a lot off my chest and the fact is that it is all true.
I just love the subject of Dave Wells.He said 'nobody has heard of Trevor Osbourne. Well, Dave, everybody has heard of you and for the wrong reasons.proud of that ? .Dispatches 'Landlords From Hell. Shelter, Citizen Advice to name a few.Refusing to give an interview to Jon Snow as you could not defend your companies practices.Then putting Steve in front of the camera's who was asked a question and looked liked a rabbit in headlights. So they call themselves DWPHousing partnership.but the secret is they won't reveal who they are in partnership with.Exempt from a Freedom of Information request they could still find a Subject Access Request submitted.If he has got partnerships then it is not with his tenants who further his wealth and pay his staff wages. Don't think that DW tenants want to be here.They have no choice.It is very transient.And when they do manage to find another property i cannot believe the relief and joy that they express.I don't think we are tenants but inmates!..Don't write off DW tenants completely. They're are some very decent people but as stated earlier they all want to leave.These are not homes, they are hostels.and there seems to be a mutual feeling about it.DW doesn't want you in them long and neither does the tenants. We have a saying whe someone moves it called 'early release' but no tagging required Have a nice weekend because i have got a lot off my chest and the fact is that it is all true. politicaltrainspotter

5:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

bmthgirl64 wrote:
Chriswood wrote:
royeveleigh wrote:
Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.
Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.
what tosh! The passing years can't obliterate his history
Bit like the Catholic church
[quote][p][bold]bmthgirl64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]royeveleigh[/bold] wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for such a vile and evil man as Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave is not vile and evil. He is a strong businessman yes, but has a compassionate and caring side as well.[/p][/quote]what tosh! The passing years can't obliterate his history[/p][/quote]Bit like the Catholic church kalebmoledirt

6:39pm Fri 24 Jan 14

MrPitiful says...

Putting whatever people think of him, have heard about him or whatever aside, he does raise some worthwhile points.

A lot of the buiildings and land in the town aren't used to the full and some of the plans we hear about aren't always as joined up as they should be.

Fresh brains in the council are required to take the town forward both as a tourist spot & a place to live.

Unfortunately, because we have the same old faces in power with the same old agendas, like he says, things aren't seemingly going to change in our lifetime.
Putting whatever people think of him, have heard about him or whatever aside, he does raise some worthwhile points. A lot of the buiildings and land in the town aren't used to the full and some of the plans we hear about aren't always as joined up as they should be. Fresh brains in the council are required to take the town forward both as a tourist spot & a place to live. Unfortunately, because we have the same old faces in power with the same old agendas, like he says, things aren't seemingly going to change in our lifetime. MrPitiful

11:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

Dave Wells would like to turn Bournemouth into Bridlington, if he saw a profit in doing it.
Dave Wells would like to turn Bournemouth into Bridlington, if he saw a profit in doing it. Yankee1

11:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

peterlucas says...

Demolishing the Pavillion is an outrageous suggestion. Not only is it a historical building that brings character to our town center, its also a well used functional building. Dave Wells just shows here how out of touch he is.
Demolishing the Pavillion is an outrageous suggestion. Not only is it a historical building that brings character to our town center, its also a well used functional building. Dave Wells just shows here how out of touch he is. peterlucas

12:14am Sat 25 Jan 14

Loyal2AFCB says...

Which convicted criminal does the Echo plan on giving platform to next?
Which convicted criminal does the Echo plan on giving platform to next? Loyal2AFCB

5:43am Sat 25 Jan 14

Count Mehin says...

Just learned that the IMAX is gone -- so happy to hear it. Hope nothing tall goes up there ... tks.
Toronto Canada
Just learned that the IMAX is gone -- so happy to hear it. Hope nothing tall goes up there ... tks. Toronto Canada Count Mehin

7:37am Sat 25 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Count Mehin wrote:
Just learned that the IMAX is gone -- so happy to hear it. Hope nothing tall goes up there ... tks.
Toronto Canada
Do yo mean a model of Toronto complete with CN tower?
[quote][p][bold]Count Mehin[/bold] wrote: Just learned that the IMAX is gone -- so happy to hear it. Hope nothing tall goes up there ... tks. Toronto Canada[/p][/quote]Do yo mean a model of Toronto complete with CN tower? kalebmoledirt

4:52pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Kiki1973 says...

Any man whose vision is to promote gambling and destroy culture is one who shouldn't have a say in the towns planning. Let's remember that he isn't a town planner, he's a property developer (and not a reputable one). That means he's in it for his coffers, not for town residents. That's all it boils down to.
Any man whose vision is to promote gambling and destroy culture is one who shouldn't have a say in the towns planning. Let's remember that he isn't a town planner, he's a property developer (and not a reputable one). That means he's in it for his coffers, not for town residents. That's all it boils down to. Kiki1973

9:32pm Sat 25 Jan 14

alexa222 says...

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO
OOO.
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO OOO. alexa222

9:34pm Sat 25 Jan 14

alexa222 says...

My plan? To buy his houses off him and invest in doing them up to not look like crack houses. That should help with regeneration.
My plan? To buy his houses off him and invest in doing them up to not look like crack houses. That should help with regeneration. alexa222

10:17pm Sat 25 Jan 14

alexa222 says...

oh no> I just realised. All this intense negative feeling is like "Big Brother Competitor" catnip to newspapers. It won't make them stop!! This will fuel the fires - He'll make front page next week. The controversy of his insanity (please see the article and all comments below) will make him easy copy for the Echo. Up the numbers Daily Mail style. Anyone know any decent developers locally like McKay that should get a mention?
oh no> I just realised. All this intense negative feeling is like "Big Brother Competitor" catnip to newspapers. It won't make them stop!! This will fuel the fires - He'll make front page next week. The controversy of his insanity (please see the article and all comments below) will make him easy copy for the Echo. Up the numbers Daily Mail style. Anyone know any decent developers locally like McKay that should get a mention? alexa222

8:32am Tue 28 Jan 14

PaulBosc says...

What would really set he town alight is a big John Lewis and Waitrose, with underground parking, on the bus station site. Would attracted people from all over. The Branksome John Lewis is great, but it's mostly furniture. Just look how many go to Sotuhampton to JL's there
What would really set he town alight is a big John Lewis and Waitrose, with underground parking, on the bus station site. Would attracted people from all over. The Branksome John Lewis is great, but it's mostly furniture. Just look how many go to Sotuhampton to JL's there PaulBosc

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