VIDEO: Smile..you're on dashcam: meet the entrepreneurs helping drivers record road collisions

Bournemouth Echo: NEW VENTURE: Business partners Andy Crathorne and Ian Bellamy who have set up the Car Camera Shop NEW VENTURE: Business partners Andy Crathorne and Ian Bellamy who have set up the Car Camera Shop

CAMERAS mounted inside cars are providing vital evidence of collisions and other incidents on the road.

Two Bournemouth entrepreneurs have set up a business to sell the cameras – sometimes called ‘dashcams’ – and say the market is growing.

Andy Crathorne and Ian Bellamy have set up the Car Camera Shop as an online business while keeping their day jobs.

“The benefits are huge for the cost of them,” said Andy.

“It’s something we looked at and it seems it’s a growing market.”

Such cameras are commonplace in countries such as South Africa and Russia – where several of them captured spectacular images of a meteorite last year.

Andy had cause to use one for evidence last year, when he was driving behind a council van and a car that were involved in a collision on the Wessex Way. He was able to pull over and offer his footage.

“If people have an accident or someone crashes into them, they want the piece of mind of knowing whose fault it was,” said Andy.

“A lot of insurance claims are put down as 50-50.

“Everyone loses their no claims bonus then.”

Despite the ‘dashcam’ name, the cameras more often sit behind the rear view mirror and are attached via suction pads like a satnav or mobile phone cradle.

They can switch on automatically when the car gets going and have a “leap record” system so that when the memory is full, the camera starts recording over the oldest footage.

Many of the cameras include ‘G-shock’ technology which detects sudden movement. This means the camera comes to life if something happens to the car when it is unattended.

“Ian was parked in a car park when someone drove into his car and drove off.

“That’s all on camera,” said Andy.

He said people are impressed when they see the camera for the first time.

“People don’t know they even exist.

“When they find out about them, they think it’s fantastic,” he said.

The cameras can also help combat insurance fraud, such as the scams which involve deliberately causing an accident.

“Two out of seven insurance claims are fraudulent,” said Andy.

Camera systems start at £75 and go up to around £370. The price varies according to the quality and whether the system includes one or two cameras.

Andy and Ian sell the cameras via their website – carcamerashop.co.uk – a site which they believe is already ahead of the competition. Rather than invest a lot of money in stock, they get items quickly from supplier to customer.

“They are an excellent product,” said Andy.

“We’re growing naturally as the market grows.”

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1:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

MaxReturn says...

I have had a dashcam for a while recording amazingly clear footage in full HD. Just yesterday a woman nearly ran me off the road overtaking at the top of Roeshot Hill. All recorded in full colour with the number plate of the car clearly shown. Driving is so bad in this part of Dorset you need one of these cameras to record just how stupid a driver can be. Mine is never out of my car and auto records every movement around my vehicle. Offering incontrovertible evidence and peace of mind - highly recommended.
I have had a dashcam for a while recording amazingly clear footage in full HD. Just yesterday a woman nearly ran me off the road overtaking at the top of Roeshot Hill. All recorded in full colour with the number plate of the car clearly shown. Driving is so bad in this part of Dorset you need one of these cameras to record just how stupid a driver can be. Mine is never out of my car and auto records every movement around my vehicle. Offering incontrovertible evidence and peace of mind - highly recommended. MaxReturn
  • Score: 12

1:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Cameras like this have been commonly used on large commercial vehicles for some time. They have been well worth the investment and have proven that many a third party claim against a vehicle's driver/owner to be criminally motivated. We must hope the Insurance Companies reward those who install such devices with lower premiums, as they undoubtedly minimise the risk of fraudulent claims.
Cameras like this have been commonly used on large commercial vehicles for some time. They have been well worth the investment and have proven that many a third party claim against a vehicle's driver/owner to be criminally motivated. We must hope the Insurance Companies reward those who install such devices with lower premiums, as they undoubtedly minimise the risk of fraudulent claims. muscliffman
  • Score: 7

1:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

twynham says...

Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court!
Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court! twynham
  • Score: 5

1:32pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Derf says...

Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon
Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon Derf
  • Score: 11

1:32pm Tue 21 Jan 14

PokesdownMark says...

So who caused that collision? The hesitating hatchback? Or the tailgating van?

As with love, it usually takes two.
So who caused that collision? The hesitating hatchback? Or the tailgating van? As with love, it usually takes two. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 4

1:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

I got a clip on mirror one with dual cameras,front/rear facing for £80 off EBay.
Records 6 hours continuos.
Good stuff. Does what it says on the tin.
I got a clip on mirror one with dual cameras,front/rear facing for £80 off EBay. Records 6 hours continuos. Good stuff. Does what it says on the tin. BIGTONE
  • Score: 7

1:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

twynham wrote:
Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court!
But that Bus Driver has probably already been filming you for years - standard equipment inside and out on many buses.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court![/p][/quote]But that Bus Driver has probably already been filming you for years - standard equipment inside and out on many buses. muscliffman
  • Score: 6

1:52pm Tue 21 Jan 14

twynham says...

muscliffman wrote:
twynham wrote:
Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court!
But that Bus Driver has probably already been filming you for years - standard equipment inside and out on many buses.
I know, that's how I had three previous complaints upheld last year.
I'm waiting for Gareth Edwards to view this video, but I don't get access to it.
Won't need it in future!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Have one on my bike now, the next Yellow Bus driver who forces me off the road will end up in court![/p][/quote]But that Bus Driver has probably already been filming you for years - standard equipment inside and out on many buses.[/p][/quote]I know, that's how I had three previous complaints upheld last year. I'm waiting for Gareth Edwards to view this video, but I don't get access to it. Won't need it in future! twynham
  • Score: -2

2:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ian_the_bute says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
So who caused that collision? The hesitating hatchback? Or the tailgating van?

As with love, it usually takes two.
it was definately the van i'm afraid. the hatchback was very hesitant ,but the van should have been looking at the back of the hatchback and from not too close either. i might get one just to record the incredibly awful driving i see every single day here in Bournemouth
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: So who caused that collision? The hesitating hatchback? Or the tailgating van? As with love, it usually takes two.[/p][/quote]it was definately the van i'm afraid. the hatchback was very hesitant ,but the van should have been looking at the back of the hatchback and from not too close either. i might get one just to record the incredibly awful driving i see every single day here in Bournemouth ian_the_bute
  • Score: 9

2:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Abberline says...

A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told.
A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told. Abberline
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

PokesdownMark says...

Derf wrote:
Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon
You are right about the price. But I guess the fact these guys are local suggests pre and post sales may be better?

I've had a couple of hassles with amazon and eBay sellers in the past that I would have paid a tenner to avoid. Though it's rare. These things need a certain amount of expertise to avoid getting wrong cables, less than optimum mount arrangements etc. For buyers unwilling to do their own research they may provide a good option?

Good luck to them.
[quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon[/p][/quote]You are right about the price. But I guess the fact these guys are local suggests pre and post sales may be better? I've had a couple of hassles with amazon and eBay sellers in the past that I would have paid a tenner to avoid. Though it's rare. These things need a certain amount of expertise to avoid getting wrong cables, less than optimum mount arrangements etc. For buyers unwilling to do their own research they may provide a good option? Good luck to them. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 6

2:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Easy to buy on internet for about £25 upwards.have used them for ages.
Easy to buy on internet for about £25 upwards.have used them for ages. pete woodley
  • Score: 6

3:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ian @ carcamerashop says...

PokesdownMark wrote:
Derf wrote:
Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon
You are right about the price. But I guess the fact these guys are local suggests pre and post sales may be better?

I've had a couple of hassles with amazon and eBay sellers in the past that I would have paid a tenner to avoid. Though it's rare. These things need a certain amount of expertise to avoid getting wrong cables, less than optimum mount arrangements etc. For buyers unwilling to do their own research they may provide a good option?

Good luck to them.
Thanks Mark. As you mention, we're very happy to talk people through the options available to them to make sure they get the camera that best suits their needs, and to help make sure they get up-and-running ok. Dashcams are a new concept to many people and they appreciate the support we give them; support that isn't necessarily available from other retailers.
[quote][p][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Derf[/bold] wrote: Seeing as this is more free advertising dressed up as 'news' I'll point out the same cameras are £10 - £20 cheaper on amazon[/p][/quote]You are right about the price. But I guess the fact these guys are local suggests pre and post sales may be better? I've had a couple of hassles with amazon and eBay sellers in the past that I would have paid a tenner to avoid. Though it's rare. These things need a certain amount of expertise to avoid getting wrong cables, less than optimum mount arrangements etc. For buyers unwilling to do their own research they may provide a good option? Good luck to them.[/p][/quote]Thanks Mark. As you mention, we're very happy to talk people through the options available to them to make sure they get the camera that best suits their needs, and to help make sure they get up-and-running ok. Dashcams are a new concept to many people and they appreciate the support we give them; support that isn't necessarily available from other retailers. ian @ carcamerashop
  • Score: 3

3:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ronlin says...

Ive had one for quite a while , believe me it also makes you drive better knowing every move you make is being recorded , so not a bad thing to have really .
Ive had one for quite a while , believe me it also makes you drive better knowing every move you make is being recorded , so not a bad thing to have really . ronlin
  • Score: 3

3:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

John T says...

ian
I think you should also appreciate the support the Echo has given you by way of a free advert; support that isn't necessarily available from other NEWSpapers.
ian I think you should also appreciate the support the Echo has given you by way of a free advert; support that isn't necessarily available from other NEWSpapers. John T
  • Score: 3

3:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

blackdog1 says...

Abberline wrote:
A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told.
He needs to get a hobby!
[quote][p][bold]Abberline[/bold] wrote: A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told.[/p][/quote]He needs to get a hobby! blackdog1
  • Score: 2

4:10pm Tue 21 Jan 14

topofall says...

Got a HD front and rear set a few months ago after seeing 'crash for cash' on the TV. Fit and forget it works via the ignition.
Got a HD front and rear set a few months ago after seeing 'crash for cash' on the TV. Fit and forget it works via the ignition. topofall
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Peroni says...

All good.......but if you have an accident , can the police remove the camera and use it against you if it turns out it was your fault.
Maybe a quick delete button would be handy ,at that time.
All good.......but if you have an accident , can the police remove the camera and use it against you if it turns out it was your fault. Maybe a quick delete button would be handy ,at that time. Peroni
  • Score: -3

7:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

baylin says...

blackdog1 wrote:
Abberline wrote:
A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told.
He needs to get a hobby!
He has way to much time on his hands.
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abberline[/bold] wrote: A work colleague has one of these and is planning on regularly sending video's of drivers driving carelessly, on mobile phones, tailgating etc to the Police on a regular basis. He calls it vigilante-cam. As it is HD and from a fixed in-car camera the evidence can be used to prosecute I am told.[/p][/quote]He needs to get a hobby![/p][/quote]He has way to much time on his hands. baylin
  • Score: -1

4:45pm Wed 22 Jan 14

phonehome says...

Use your tablet with an appropriate app = cheaper!
Use your tablet with an appropriate app = cheaper! phonehome
  • Score: 0

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